# Paul Murray Live | 13 July

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 13 Jul 2026, 49 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/51a0ab28-17ae-423b-85ae-b48600d4204d/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Potholes have become a political problem for Allan, One Nation support dips in the latest poll. Plus, the terror law proposal is under scrutiny. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:06] Speaker 1: Thank you Cale. I've got all our work to do
[0:08] Speaker 1: in the man Cave tonight. In fact, I look forward
[0:10] Speaker 1: to that debate starting in a moment or Tuesday time.
[0:12] Speaker 1: But first some good news. The next place we are
[0:15] Speaker 1: going for ourtown is Armadale in New South Wales. It
[0:19] Speaker 1: is a beautiful part of Australia. I look forward to
[0:21] Speaker 1: celebrating it and I would love you to join us.
[0:23] Speaker 1: If you're watching us right now free to wear Foxtel
[0:26] Speaker 1: or the Sky News app, please send me an email
[0:28] Speaker 1: tonight because tickets are limited, free but limited, and you
[0:32] Speaker 1: need to own, declare and get them through Our town
[0:35] Speaker 1: at skynews dot com dot Au. You know how much
[0:37] Speaker 1: I love our town well, Armadale, New South Wales. That's
[0:40] Speaker 1: the next one at the end of the month, Sunday,
[0:41] Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of July. Of course, Monday is when
[0:44] Speaker 1: we become news twenty four Tuesdays when we get Pauline
[0:47] Speaker 1: Hanson in the studio for please explain. But that's the
[0:51] Speaker 1: start of a big week Armadau, New South Wales. Couple
[0:54] Speaker 1: of weeks outtown at skynews dot com dot Au now
[0:59] Speaker 1: for all of the big and high falute and stuff
[1:01] Speaker 1: that often we talk about, and the big ideas of
[1:03] Speaker 1: federal politics, we at the prime minister, the alternative prime minister,
[1:08] Speaker 1: the force that one nation has become. The reality is that,
[1:12] Speaker 1: regardless of whom is leading our nation or whom is
[1:16] Speaker 1: part of the contest to lead our nation, Australian's trust
[1:20] Speaker 1: in government is not what it used to be. In fact,
[1:24] Speaker 1: many of our major national institutions, the trust is declining.
[1:30] Speaker 1: When you have a look at the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
[1:32] Speaker 1: When it comes to the people who have confidence in
[1:35] Speaker 1: our national government, the number is pretty solid, but the
[1:38] Speaker 1: number is towards between fifty and sixty. It ain't up
[1:43] Speaker 1: around seventy, up around eighty. And that's really sad because
[1:48] Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, this is the greatest country in the world.
[1:50] Speaker 1: For all of the personality faults of anyone who gets
[1:54] Speaker 1: into leadership, they all do wake up each and every
[1:56] Speaker 1: day trying to do their best. Many make decisions that
[2:00] Speaker 1: we strongly disagree with with the joy of the freedom
[2:03] Speaker 1: of our nation is that we're able to argue back.
[2:06] Speaker 1: We can do it as citizens. I can do it
[2:08] Speaker 1: through this platform you can do it by watching this platform,
[2:10] Speaker 1: sharing the content, having the conversations. But I think there's
[2:15] Speaker 1: a bit of a reason why that trust ebbs and
[2:19] Speaker 1: flows and that trust has fallen away. And I think
[2:23] Speaker 1: it's because modern politics is full of these announcements, like
[2:28] Speaker 1: one announcement every day, and it always involves millions and
[2:31] Speaker 1: billions of dollars, and there are all sort of big numbers,
[2:34] Speaker 1: but life doesn't really change, you know what. It's like,
[2:38] Speaker 1: I announced a five billion dollar fund.
[2:40] Speaker 2: Today, we're announcing an equity injection of three billion.
[2:43] Speaker 1: Dollars eight hundred million dollars.
[2:45] Speaker 3: Seven point two billion dollar.
[2:47] Speaker 1: Announcement eight hundred million dollars.
[2:49] Speaker 3: Two hundred million dollars.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Five billion dollars. And it's not just at that federal level.
[2:54] Speaker 1: All of the state leaders for as long as we've
[2:56] Speaker 1: been talking and as long as hoping alive, well they're
[2:59] Speaker 1: in this game two again. You look like you're in
[3:02] Speaker 1: charge because I've made an announcement today that I'm doing
[3:04] Speaker 1: something while I'm in charge.
[3:07] Speaker 4: We're spending over half a billion dollars five hundred and
[3:10] Speaker 4: forty five million.
[3:11] Speaker 3: We've invested one hundred and twelve million dollars.
[3:13] Speaker 5: Here government committed six point six billion dollars to social
[3:17] Speaker 5: housing in New South Wales.
[3:18] Speaker 1: That now, I think it's good that. Obviously the money
[3:22] Speaker 1: that they take from us, and it ain't voluntary they
[3:25] Speaker 1: take from us when it comes to taxation, obviously they've
[3:27] Speaker 1: got to spend it on priorities and I get it
[3:29] Speaker 1: they want a little bit of credit for it. But
[3:33] Speaker 1: recently there's one area that again I think is a
[3:35] Speaker 1: policy area that speaks to our trust in the system
[3:39] Speaker 1: about their role actually making our lives better that's worth
[3:42] Speaker 1: talking about, and that's roads. Now, every time there's a
[3:47] Speaker 1: new toll road, oh here we are click and a click,
[3:50] Speaker 1: or there's a new extension to a piece of road
[3:52] Speaker 1: that it's one kilometer better than it used to be.
[3:55] Speaker 1: But what about the ten k's before it, in the
[3:57] Speaker 1: twenty k's after it. All of this, and I haven't
[4:02] Speaker 1: made this point before, but I have to return to it. Now,
[4:07] Speaker 1: do you really trust the government to be able to
[4:09] Speaker 1: come up with the way to defend us in a war,
[4:12] Speaker 1: or to save the healthcare system, or to educate our
[4:15] Speaker 1: children better than ever before when they can't fix a
[4:19] Speaker 1: pothole in a road. Now, the reality is is that
[4:24] Speaker 1: the single most important thing. No, but it's kind of
[4:29] Speaker 1: a symbol, right, all this money, all these announcements, all
[4:32] Speaker 1: this power, all this government, all this bureaucracy, but there's
[4:35] Speaker 1: a hole here, there and everywhere because they either don't
[4:40] Speaker 1: patch the problem, or if they do, as soon as
[4:43] Speaker 1: it rains, the patch falls away and the problem still exists.
[4:46] Speaker 1: It's a regular story from South Australia, where potholes currently
[4:52] Speaker 1: a problem in Brisbane. It's always been a story, particularly
[4:57] Speaker 1: because the southeast gets so much rain. It's Sydney. Well,
[5:01] Speaker 1: start a conversation about the roads and it's going to
[5:04] Speaker 1: inevitably get to potholes, and inevitably it gets to people
[5:08] Speaker 1: whose businesses or their lives are disrupted. Because as much
[5:12] Speaker 1: as we invest in our houses, kind of the biggest,
[5:14] Speaker 1: single expensive thing that many of us own or are
[5:17] Speaker 1: paying off or releasing or whatever, it's the car. And
[5:21] Speaker 1: of course as soon as the car gets smashed by
[5:23] Speaker 1: the road, that costs even more money too.
[5:27] Speaker 6: The tire repair shops in Warnable business is booming.
[5:31] Speaker 7: One shop is seeing at least twelve vehicles each week
[5:34] Speaker 7: with significant damage.
[5:36] Speaker 3: But they want to see change.
[5:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, we're as sick of being in the barer bad
[5:40] Speaker 4: news to a lot of families that you simply can't
[5:42] Speaker 4: afford it.
[5:44] Speaker 1: And again in Victorias specifically, the Herald Sun's been doing
[5:47] Speaker 1: a great job highlighting the issue but also giving people
[5:50] Speaker 1: the opportunity to say, hey, there's a problem here at
[5:52] Speaker 1: the end of Smith Street, at the corner of Johnson Street.
[5:55] Speaker 1: Whatever right, And apparently Google searches for potholes has skyrocketed
[6:00] Speaker 1: five thousand percent because people have had enough. Again Herald
[6:06] Speaker 1: Sun doing exactly the best form of reporting, which is
[6:08] Speaker 1: pick a camera up and get out of the office.
[6:12] Speaker 1: The road up ahead, as you're about to see, is
[6:15] Speaker 1: littered with horrendous potholes, divots and cracks, bulgar and last
[6:24] Speaker 1: week it caused absolute chaos.
[6:26] Speaker 7: After months of neglect, a bit of rainfall opened up
[6:30] Speaker 7: a series of potholes, landing dozens of cars in the
[6:33] Speaker 7: emergency lane with broken rams and.
[6:35] Speaker 3: Flat tires, all waiting for roadside assistance.
[6:39] Speaker 1: And in the same report they show that even if
[6:41] Speaker 1: they block off the road to do a little bit
[6:43] Speaker 1: of roadworks, which more likely or not is going to
[6:45] Speaker 1: be a patch job rather than an actual resurfacing. You know,
[6:48] Speaker 1: with the billions and billions and billions of dollars that
[6:51] Speaker 1: they get in our tax money. Look at the road
[6:53] Speaker 1: that they send you on to apparently fix the road
[6:58] Speaker 1: that's the problem in the first place.
[7:01] Speaker 2: We've got a road closed ahead because of road works,
[7:04] Speaker 2: and we got d to it.
[7:05] Speaker 1: This is a road we got teacher Town. You're kidding me. Well,
[7:14] Speaker 1: it's becoming a problem in the Victorian election because, as
[7:17] Speaker 1: I said, the number of people that are not just
[7:19] Speaker 1: noticing but not willing to copy anymore. A state that
[7:22] Speaker 1: has so much government, so much bureaucracy, so much tax
[7:26] Speaker 1: yet the basics of a to b ends up being
[7:32] Speaker 1: spot the pothole. So Jess Wilson, hoping to be the
[7:35] Speaker 1: next Premier of Victoria, has done something that I think
[7:38] Speaker 1: is really important, and that's to start talking about potholes.
[7:43] Speaker 1: Does it change the culture knows? Is it going to
[7:45] Speaker 1: get her into the history books? Will they build a statue? No? No, no,
[7:50] Speaker 1: But maybe it might rebuild some trust because for all
[7:53] Speaker 1: of the announcements about health, well we all know the
[7:56] Speaker 1: problems there, for all the problems in education, but wen
[7:58] Speaker 1: a government has bid into dollars, especially billions of dollars
[8:02] Speaker 1: that come out of fuel excise and I've had plenty
[8:05] Speaker 1: to say about that over the years. Fix the damn potholes.
[8:08] Speaker 1: It's not a crazy idea, but you know what, it's
[8:12] Speaker 1: one that I think it's good to see. That is
[8:14] Speaker 1: part of what j Jess Wilson's doing right now, touring
[8:17] Speaker 1: around every electorate during the winter break in Victoria. And
[8:21] Speaker 1: perhaps it's something that all politicians might think about doing.
[8:24] Speaker 1: Not to announce it once, but to announce a change
[8:29] Speaker 1: and then point out what it is and make it
[8:31] Speaker 1: like a right up there priority. We have governments that
[8:34] Speaker 1: are around for three years or four years at the
[8:36] Speaker 1: state level, and why not turn around and say, look,
[8:38] Speaker 1: the first four years of this government is going to
[8:41] Speaker 1: be we've got to fix the damn roads. Okay, yes,
[8:43] Speaker 1: we'll keep everything else running, but we've really got to
[8:45] Speaker 1: fix the damn roads, and that's going to be our focus. Well,
[8:49] Speaker 1: he was Jess Wilson making that point.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Today, we're seeing it absolutely everywhere on Victorian roads, littered
[8:55] Speaker 2: with potholes, crators. It's not safe and it's costing Victorians
[8:59] Speaker 2: thousands of dollars when they have to get their ties
[9:01] Speaker 2: and their rooms prepared.
[9:02] Speaker 3: That's why we've got a plan to fix it.
[9:04] Speaker 1: So that's the point. You want to rebuild trust, make
[9:06] Speaker 1: people's lives better, and people's lives better isn't always the
[9:10] Speaker 1: super big announcements or dividing people on culture, or telling
[9:14] Speaker 1: people that skin color makes them more or less Australian,
[9:18] Speaker 1: or aught the rest of that. At the end of
[9:20] Speaker 1: the day, when we all work and we all pay tax,
[9:23] Speaker 1: or you may well have lived a life and paid
[9:26] Speaker 1: your tax. The basics are that when you call triple O,
[9:29] Speaker 1: it should work. That when an ambulance is on its way,
[9:33] Speaker 1: it should arrive. When the hospital is needed, you should
[9:36] Speaker 1: be able to get into it. And when it comes
[9:39] Speaker 1: to the roads, stop showing me some brand new overpass
[9:42] Speaker 1: where I'm going to have to pay five hundred dollars
[9:44] Speaker 1: in tolls every couple of weeks. Fix the damn potholes.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Give counsels more money to do it, because again, it's
[9:52] Speaker 1: a simple way of showing that there's a point to
[9:56] Speaker 1: all this tax, there's a need for all this government.
[9:59] Speaker 1: There's a reason that the government is there to make
[10:03] Speaker 1: sure that. Yes, the social safety need is wonderful, but
[10:06] Speaker 1: the quality of the road that you drive on actually
[10:09] Speaker 1: matters regardless of whether you're in a Liberal, labor One
[10:12] Speaker 1: Nation or independent seat. Now, in fairness, there are politicians
[10:16] Speaker 1: that have noticed this before, like Adrian Srinner. He's the
[10:19] Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Brisbane and unsurprisingly he's been re elected
[10:22] Speaker 1: multiple times because just recently he announced that they were
[10:27] Speaker 1: fixing podcoals at such a pace that it was happening
[10:29] Speaker 1: one every couple of minutes and they did eighteen hundred
[10:32] Speaker 1: of them in five days. Yeah, okay, potholes of patch
[10:36] Speaker 1: up jobs. But politicians that say were actually going to
[10:41] Speaker 1: fix the roads and they actually fix the roads will
[10:45] Speaker 1: maybe redeliver trust that when they say that they want
[10:48] Speaker 1: to fix the education system, the health system or the
[10:52] Speaker 1: crime situation, that we might actually believe them. Geez, I
[10:58] Speaker 1: wonder if the news has focused on all. In the
[11:00] Speaker 1: latest opinion polls, a rise in the polls was meteoric.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Now support for Pauline Hanson and One Nation appears to
[11:07] Speaker 2: be slipping.
[11:08] Speaker 6: Support for Pauline Hansen has fallen for the first time
[11:11] Speaker 6: in four months, according to fresh polling from our colleagues
[11:13] Speaker 6: at the Sidney Morning Heralds. The poort for One Nation
[11:15] Speaker 6: has slumped in the latest Resolve Strategic poll.
[11:19] Speaker 1: Bah well, the latest opinion poll as you've heard all
[11:24] Speaker 1: day from Resolve. As we spoke about last night, it
[11:26] Speaker 1: shows Labor at twenty eight, the Coalition at twenty three,
[11:30] Speaker 1: one nation at twenty six. I don't know why the
[11:33] Speaker 1: Greens get in front of them, but they do, according
[11:35] Speaker 1: to the list, and then Independent and other is at
[11:38] Speaker 1: eleven percent. And haven't the establishment media just worked out? Well,
[11:44] Speaker 1: this is the beginning of the end of Pauline Hansen.
[11:47] Speaker 1: All of those silly little people who thought about revolutionizing
[11:50] Speaker 1: the system, complaining about the system changing the system, well,
[11:53] Speaker 1: they will eventually come to their senses, right, so much
[11:56] Speaker 1: so that even I think the chief political correspondent for
[11:58] Speaker 1: the CYDNY Morning Herald, the same people who did the
[12:00] Speaker 1: opinion poll already basically saying the beginning of the end.
[12:04] Speaker 1: If not the end is here, that of Hans and fades.
[12:08] Speaker 1: This four week stretch will be remembered as the mistakes
[12:10] Speaker 1: that brought her down. The results on the latest Resolve
[12:14] Speaker 1: Pole monitor represent a notable shift away from one nation
[12:18] Speaker 1: in just a month. What is it? Three points? Not
[12:21] Speaker 1: not fifteen? Anyway, the results of the latest Resolved Pole
[12:25] Speaker 1: monitor represent a notable shift away from one nation in
[12:28] Speaker 1: just one month. The shine has come off, Hanson remains
[12:33] Speaker 1: in a compelling position. The commentary it didn't see it
[12:36] Speaker 1: coming a year ago. Well you might not have, Powell,
[12:39] Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it well since before the
[12:41] Speaker 1: last federal election. We were talking about it back in
[12:45] Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election, just because it didn't make it
[12:48] Speaker 1: all the way to the halls of the press gallery.
[12:50] Speaker 1: But still the commentary didn't see it coming. But if
[12:54] Speaker 1: this is the start of a trend in the past
[12:55] Speaker 1: few weeks, we'll be remembered as a pivotal period of miscalculation.
[12:59] Speaker 1: You know, all the greatest hits were there. And I agree.
[13:02] Speaker 1: I haven't been a massive fan of what's been going
[13:03] Speaker 1: on with her in the UK in the past couple
[13:05] Speaker 1: of weeks. Certainly I'd stay as far away from Tommy
[13:07] Speaker 1: Robinson as possible, But certainly the media got what it wanted,
[13:10] Speaker 1: the big speech that they could pull apart. Hardline comments
[13:14] Speaker 1: on childcare, abortion and wages are still reverberating online. According
[13:19] Speaker 1: to major party hardheads tracking public sentiment the past month
[13:23] Speaker 1: suggests that while one nation has broken into the mainstream,
[13:25] Speaker 1: the Coalition and labor faltered. A leopard doesn't change their spots,
[13:31] Speaker 1: so Is this just what you want to happen or
[13:34] Speaker 1: what you think is happening. Voters shouldn't expect a harp
[13:37] Speaker 1: hivot from Hanson when she returns in London, and the
[13:39] Speaker 1: question will be whether this drop is a blip or
[13:41] Speaker 1: the start of a bigger correction. Well again, that's like saying, so,
[13:44] Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the World Cup finals? Well,
[13:46] Speaker 1: you know what one of fourteen's could win? Get paid
[13:51] Speaker 1: for this insight inside the Apparently you didn't see it
[13:54] Speaker 1: coming until it arrives. Now, who knows. I don't know
[13:58] Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the next week, month, year.
[14:01] Speaker 1: We've all sat here and looked at the polls and
[14:03] Speaker 1: talked about the poles, and the trend's been pretty obvious,
[14:05] Speaker 1: and what started to be the walk away from the
[14:07] Speaker 1: coalition started to become a problem for the commentariat when
[14:11] Speaker 1: of course it started to threaten Labor. I showed you
[14:15] Speaker 1: what the plan was and what the tactic was from
[14:19] Speaker 1: the Union movement, and it seems to have worked about
[14:21] Speaker 1: trying to pair back some of the Labor one nation
[14:24] Speaker 1: curious voters because of course it was the Coalition that
[14:28] Speaker 1: has been the beneficiary of this blip, this change, this
[14:31] Speaker 1: fall again not ten points three I think it is,
[14:35] Speaker 1: but also it's not the only pole in the market tonight.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Is that interesting that none of the media that has
[14:40] Speaker 1: been celebrating the downfall of One Nation could quite bring
[14:43] Speaker 1: themselves to report an opinion poll that was done by
[14:47] Speaker 1: Demos a you today because it actually still shows that
[14:51] Speaker 1: One Nation is the most popular political party in the
[14:53] Speaker 1: country at twenty nine percent, followed by Labor at twenty six,
[14:58] Speaker 1: the Coalition of twenty one, the Greens of fe fourteen,
[15:00] Speaker 1: and others at ten. The same opinion poll which shows
[15:06] Speaker 1: us in demographics here that One Nation is still the
[15:08] Speaker 1: leading party with men, women, people thirty five to fifty
[15:14] Speaker 1: five plus, So anyone over the age of thirty five
[15:17] Speaker 1: single biggest political party right now is One Nation. People
[15:20] Speaker 1: have been to tafe, renters, mortgage holders, all of the
[15:23] Speaker 1: income groups in the suburbs and the regions. Now one
[15:27] Speaker 1: pole does not prove anything one way or the other.
[15:30] Speaker 1: The trend over the past couple of weeks in May,
[15:32] Speaker 1: the past month has been obvious that the absolute tippy
[15:36] Speaker 1: top of the One Nation movement has in some polls
[15:39] Speaker 1: started to show that it is coming off the question
[15:42] Speaker 1: for me is who are the voters that have changed
[15:45] Speaker 1: their mind? Is it the labor curious voters? Hence why
[15:48] Speaker 1: we've talked Acros Samarus as frequently as we do. Hence
[15:51] Speaker 1: why I show you what the ACTU has done. Is
[15:55] Speaker 1: it those liberal voters who have previously said that they
[15:58] Speaker 1: would never think about even preferencing one nation that maybe
[16:02] Speaker 1: those people are a little bit further down the chain
[16:05] Speaker 1: would prefer ultimately to go back to the coalition. Okay,
[16:07] Speaker 1: we'll all find out together. But the bit that all
[16:11] Speaker 1: of the commentariat is not quite noticing is that even
[16:15] Speaker 1: if the current poles which have them on what twenties
[16:18] Speaker 1: in the high twenties in this poll, twenty six percent
[16:23] Speaker 1: are still eleven points higher than being able to reshape
[16:27] Speaker 1: Australian politics. Because while the fantasy fiction about an alternative
[16:31] Speaker 1: prime ministership, or even the fantasy fiction potentially about becoming
[16:34] Speaker 1: the opposition leader, if one nation is fifteen percent nationally
[16:38] Speaker 1: or higher, they will get a Senate seat in every
[16:41] Speaker 1: single state. Now that is the game changer, That is
[16:47] Speaker 1: the big change. Some people have got over the top
[16:51] Speaker 1: about how high they think one nation may go. When
[16:53] Speaker 1: some are over the top about how low they will
[16:55] Speaker 1: fall for me, they make their forever mark on Australian
[16:59] Speaker 1: politics as low as the number is higher than fifteen.
[17:03] Speaker 1: Is that me getting ready to tell you that tomorrow
[17:05] Speaker 1: night and the Sky News Pulse they're going to be
[17:06] Speaker 1: down five points ten perts? No, I don't know. I'll
[17:09] Speaker 1: learn just before the show and then I'll tell you
[17:11] Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow night. But those that are saying
[17:15] Speaker 1: it's all over don't know what they're talking about. Those
[17:17] Speaker 1: who say it's all bs and a lie and they're
[17:19] Speaker 1: still top of the tree also not true. Poulsary moment
[17:22] Speaker 1: in time. But does anyone honestly believe that our boy
[17:25] Speaker 1: is going to be perfect between now and the next election,
[17:27] Speaker 1: that there's not going to be another surge for support
[17:29] Speaker 1: in one nation because of the failures of the colors
[17:33] Speaker 1: you to get its message out or labor to make
[17:35] Speaker 1: the right decision. Yeah, that's a bet I'm not willing
[17:38] Speaker 1: to take either. And of course a reminder that Pauline
[17:42] Speaker 1: Hanson will be in our studio. As I mentioned before,
[17:45] Speaker 1: the twenty seventh is when we become News twenty four.
[17:48] Speaker 1: The twenty eighth, the Tuesday is Pauline Hanson please explain.
[17:53] Speaker 1: If you would like to join us and ask a
[17:55] Speaker 1: question remotely, please do so pub test at skynews dot com.
[17:59] Speaker 1: Are you They've got great questions from all over the country.
[18:01] Speaker 1: The reason I keep asking, I really want to hear
[18:04] Speaker 1: from some people specifically in Victoria, South Australia or the
[18:08] Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Now it doesn't mean don't send me an
[18:10] Speaker 1: email if you're in another place, but currently I'd really
[18:14] Speaker 1: like some more questions from Victoria, which really matters because
[18:17] Speaker 1: that's that state election coming up South Australia. Well, of
[18:20] Speaker 1: course we saw what happened at the state election there
[18:22] Speaker 1: and the Northern Territory where plenty of people are backing
[18:26] Speaker 1: in Pauline. But I be keen you know what you
[18:28] Speaker 1: think about all of those. And by the way, just quickly,
[18:30] Speaker 1: one more little thinking. The single best bit of campaigning
[18:33] Speaker 1: that one nation does, and they've done it for a
[18:35] Speaker 1: long time, when it was single digits and then dozens
[18:39] Speaker 1: and then on their way towards thirty top of the tree,
[18:41] Speaker 1: slightly under top of the tree, but well and truly
[18:44] Speaker 1: still on the podium, is of course the cartoon. The
[18:47] Speaker 1: Paul and Hanson plae explain cartoon done by the step
[18:49] Speaker 1: Mates people out of Melbourne. They are really funny and
[18:52] Speaker 1: they take the pissing exactly the right way. And you
[18:55] Speaker 1: remember Paul Hogan who referred to Paul and Hansen as
[18:58] Speaker 1: a Pelican. Now, of course he was able to be
[19:01] Speaker 1: a legend of Australia right up there on Mount Rushmore
[19:04] Speaker 1: for many Australian so great cultural figure because of course
[19:08] Speaker 1: he was able to lampoon a type of Australia that
[19:12] Speaker 1: a lot of us are pretty fond of. But he is,
[19:14] Speaker 1: of course move of the times, lives in la and
[19:18] Speaker 1: referred to her as a Pelican. So they decided to
[19:21] Speaker 1: hit back in the same week that he did that,
[19:23] Speaker 1: and this was very clever, fast work from the One
[19:26] Speaker 1: Nation people and step Mates having a crack back at
[19:29] Speaker 1: Paul Hogan today.
[19:31] Speaker 8: Well, you don't look like you need a holiday. You
[19:33] Speaker 8: look like you need permanent residency here in Australia. But Jace,
[19:36] Speaker 8: you worry about assimilating. You don't have to learn how
[19:38] Speaker 8: to say today. No, you don't even have to learn
[19:39] Speaker 8: English at all. Sawai ka now I must say no
[19:43] Speaker 8: hew us all, I'm alaiku.
[19:44] Speaker 9: It's feel like we've got one cage of culture here
[19:46] Speaker 9: in Australia that'd been born and racist. Nah, we're multicultural,
[19:50] Speaker 9: which means everyone lives as separate and distinct tribes and
[19:53] Speaker 9: no matter how incompatible an aspect of your culture is,
[19:55] Speaker 9: we'll celebrating.
[19:57] Speaker 1: Correct. By the way, the video absolute must please go
[20:01] Speaker 1: and see it. Well, they've got a little more.
[20:05] Speaker 10: Ah, death boy taxes wherever heaven you're in him switch.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Nows can't be true with all the tax off.
[20:12] Speaker 3: Don't thought that was for essential services.
[20:14] Speaker 1: That's not what they're spending it on.
[20:16] Speaker 4: Paul.
[20:16] Speaker 1: Where's their money going then, your bloody Pelican let me
[20:19] Speaker 1: show you pop on.
[20:21] Speaker 9: We're spreading forty two billion dollars on net zero.
[20:24] Speaker 2: That's just no hydro two point zero net zero will
[20:27] Speaker 2: cost us to trillion dollars at least.
[20:29] Speaker 9: Oh, we're spreading fifty billion dollars a year on a
[20:32] Speaker 9: steam field with brought and scams.
[20:33] Speaker 1: It'll be more than defense by the end of the decade.
[20:36] Speaker 9: Ah, we're spent at six hundred million dollars.
[20:38] Speaker 1: But pre gene to get a rugby.
[20:40] Speaker 10: Light time sports diplomacy right doesn't mind, Gunny says, So
[20:47] Speaker 10: that's more that I'm going to film that act and
[20:49] Speaker 10: I don't want to bring in more warrants so.
[20:51] Speaker 9: They can collect more tax, so they can keep spreading.
[20:53] Speaker 1: And they're addicted, you.
[20:55] Speaker 8: Know, I warrants they do near the ones that have
[20:58] Speaker 8: reduced Morris to me economic you're not the racist player.
[21:03] Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And by the way, in some breaking news,
[21:05] Speaker 1: the Morgan pole has just come out tonight. It shows
[21:08] Speaker 1: One Nation up five points and back is the number
[21:12] Speaker 1: one political party in the country at twenty eight percent,
[21:15] Speaker 1: Labor at twenty seven and a half, the Coalition losing
[21:18] Speaker 1: ground at twenty percent, the Green's down one point five percent,
[21:22] Speaker 1: and the others two in two party preferred it's Labor
[21:25] Speaker 1: fifty four, the LMP forty six. When it's One Nation
[21:28] Speaker 1: it's fifty two and a half to forty seven and
[21:30] Speaker 1: a half. Will that be the lead news story tomorrow morning.
[21:37] Speaker 1: Let's talk about Victoria and specifically the election that is
[21:39] Speaker 1: coming up there in November, and Jacinder Allen is in
[21:44] Speaker 1: a world of trouble. There was an opinion poll which
[21:46] Speaker 1: again it's just broken tonight. It was put together by
[21:49] Speaker 1: the Trades Hall. So the union movement that is now
[21:52] Speaker 1: starting to list the number of seats that they think
[21:54] Speaker 1: are going to crumble if she remains the leader of
[21:57] Speaker 1: the state, if she continues to run away from the
[22:00] Speaker 1: cameras every time there's an opportunity for a little bit
[22:02] Speaker 1: of accountability in and around the Big Build. Now, is
[22:06] Speaker 1: all of this part of a pressure campaign to probably
[22:08] Speaker 1: get rid of her as the leader? You bet the
[22:10] Speaker 1: two things would be right at the same time, right,
[22:12] Speaker 1: because remember the Big Build, which is mind in about
[22:15] Speaker 1: what fifteen and a billion dollars worth of corruption, the
[22:18] Speaker 1: money trail, which still stinks in twenty twenty six. There's
[22:22] Speaker 1: not a yesterday issue. Remember sixty minutes.
[22:26] Speaker 5: Despite Tony Chacconi's denials, he has paid me Gatto more
[22:30] Speaker 5: than thirty times, over one million dollars in total, with
[22:35] Speaker 5: multiple payments.
[22:36] Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six.
[22:38] Speaker 5: We've also learned Chaconi is one of at least two
[22:42] Speaker 5: Big Build Gatto payers who have separately made donations and
[22:47] Speaker 5: other payments totaling tens of thousands of dollars to the
[22:50] Speaker 5: Victorian Labor Party and the CER for me.
[22:54] Speaker 11: You why would they do that, We'll have a guess
[22:58] Speaker 11: it's for exactly the same reason. The point is that
[23:01] Speaker 11: they want the connections with the Labor Party the same
[23:04] Speaker 11: way that they want with the CFMAU. There's a strong
[23:07] Speaker 11: connection between the Labor Party, the CFMU, and the building industry.
[23:11] Speaker 1: But of course if you ask the Premier of Victoria,
[23:13] Speaker 1: it's not at all corruption. It's inflation.
[23:17] Speaker 6: And so whether it's a hospital, school or a tunnel,
[23:21] Speaker 6: we have seen that through inflationary pressures. Inflationary pressures that
[23:26] Speaker 6: includes the supply of materials and also worker wages. They've
[23:30] Speaker 6: gone up over the past twelve years, and that also
[23:33] Speaker 6: includes the period of the pandemic. Now that's not corruption,
[23:38] Speaker 6: that's inflation.
[23:40] Speaker 1: Well, believe it or not. Again, we get another opinion poll.
[23:42] Speaker 1: This one is the state based version of the result
[23:45] Speaker 1: pole that I was mentioning before that was dealing with
[23:47] Speaker 1: federal politics, and it shows that in the contest for
[23:50] Speaker 1: preferred premiere. Apparently some people are convinced because Allen's gone
[23:54] Speaker 1: up by four points, Wilson's gone up by four points,
[23:56] Speaker 1: but Jess Wilson is absolutely hammering just Interallen. Now there
[24:00] Speaker 1: is a path for Labor to hold on to power.
[24:02] Speaker 1: I'll talk about that the closer we get to there,
[24:04] Speaker 1: but it's not going to happen if you sent to
[24:05] Speaker 1: Allen remains the premiere. Okay, because you see the primary
[24:09] Speaker 1: vote right now, Labor twenty seven, Liberal twenty seven, one
[24:13] Speaker 1: nation twenty seven. Of course, if one nation people preference
[24:17] Speaker 1: the Liberal Party, well then you can pretty obviously see
[24:19] Speaker 1: that gets the forty nine percent, meaning that Labor would
[24:22] Speaker 1: need every single other vote that's out there somewhat not
[24:26] Speaker 1: a chance of happening. We'll all wait, watch and learn together,
[24:29] Speaker 1: won't we. Now you may will have heard before, particularly
[24:35] Speaker 1: with Andrew, about the absurdity of the is anti Islamophobia
[24:41] Speaker 1: envoy who is paid for by the Australian taxpayer. And
[24:44] Speaker 1: of course this was all to even everything out because
[24:45] Speaker 1: apparently it's anti Semitism on one side, but really the
[24:48] Speaker 1: problem is Islamophobia. This is the bloke who, of course
[24:51] Speaker 1: was quick to print straight after the National Press Club,
[24:54] Speaker 1: such a patronizing thing. Oh, Paulin Lansen could read a
[24:56] Speaker 1: book his organization. By the way, again, taxpayer funded organization
[25:01] Speaker 1: is now paying for their own polling. Now, didn't we
[25:06] Speaker 1: have that referendum about not dividing us on race, Well
[25:09] Speaker 1: apparently we can potentially when it comes to religion, and
[25:12] Speaker 1: now we're just polling different religious groups with taxpayer money. Well,
[25:20] Speaker 1: In his submission to the Royal Commission. And we talked
[25:22] Speaker 1: about this when it was first around in May, but
[25:25] Speaker 1: it gets another run today because there's a bit more
[25:27] Speaker 1: detail to talk about with all of this. This bloke's
[25:30] Speaker 1: brilliant idea is that when there's an act of terrorism,
[25:32] Speaker 1: you shouldn't say what was the religious motivation behind the terrorism?
[25:39] Speaker 1: Follow up today in the Australian newspaper, this bloke submission
[25:42] Speaker 1: said defining terrorists by their motive did not work, and
[25:46] Speaker 1: argue twenty five years of hypersecuritization had punished Muslims. As
[25:51] Speaker 1: he urged federal Cabinet to stop using ideological labels when
[25:55] Speaker 1: it tackled terror crises. It should adopt and idol idology
[26:01] Speaker 1: agnostic framework, which classifies extremism not by its motivating ideology,
[26:06] Speaker 1: but by referencing its capacity to mobilize harm inside violence
[26:09] Speaker 1: or eroad social cohesion. So despite the fact that there
[26:13] Speaker 1: have been examples of people who say, well, I can
[26:16] Speaker 1: kill you because my holy tech says I can forget it.
[26:22] Speaker 1: He had previously been advocating for the Independent National Security
[26:27] Speaker 1: Legislation Monitor to remove religion as a motivation for terrorist
[26:31] Speaker 1: acts as part of his first review into the National
[26:33] Speaker 1: Terror Law since nine to eleven. The Prime Minister and
[26:35] Speaker 1: the Home Affairs Minister, when contacted about it, well, gave
[26:37] Speaker 1: a generic or nothing response. I've got one. Just tell
[26:44] Speaker 1: the truth, Just tell the truth. If somebody is suspected
[26:49] Speaker 1: on an act of terrorism, whatever their motivation, if it
[26:53] Speaker 1: is known to authority, should be known to us in
[26:56] Speaker 1: all of its forms, from the far left to the
[26:59] Speaker 1: far right, from one barstardized version of a religion to
[27:03] Speaker 1: another barsardized version of the religion. Because here's the break
[27:06] Speaker 1: of news. Normal people have no interest whatsoever in supporting terrorism.
[27:15] Speaker 1: The extreme majority of Muslims in this country do not
[27:19] Speaker 1: support terrorism. The extreme majority of Christians do not support terrorism.
[27:23] Speaker 1: The extreme majority of people who don't believe in any
[27:26] Speaker 1: God at all do not accept terrorism under any circumstances.
[27:29] Speaker 1: And we'll call it out in all of its forms
[27:30] Speaker 1: all the time. Just tell the truth. Let us not
[27:36] Speaker 1: get into this crazy world of a twenty eight year
[27:39] Speaker 1: old man has been arrested for We'll tell you later.
[27:44] Speaker 1: That's not a place we need to be. Is there
[27:46] Speaker 1: an argument about an over monitoring, over securitization. Okay, maybe
[27:50] Speaker 1: there's a chat. I don't know. But if that's a
[27:52] Speaker 1: different chat, then you shouldn't know who is responsible for
[27:56] Speaker 1: terrible things that are taking place or threatening terrible things
[28:00] Speaker 1: to take place in our community. I don't think so.
[28:05] Speaker 1: All right, while you're working, you work too hard. We
[28:07] Speaker 1: pay them too much, We pay their staff as too
[28:09] Speaker 1: much to make bad, crappy, stupid social media videos. Do
[28:13] Speaker 1: I say shows for ugly people? Oh? Look, who's back
[28:17] Speaker 1: our mate from Queensland Dance, Baby Dance. I'm working for
[28:32] Speaker 1: you by talking about me. Who's going to watch that show?
[28:38] Speaker 1: Am I gonna? I'm probably gonna have to to cut
[28:40] Speaker 1: up and show you the highlights. I'll try and avoid it. This,
[28:43] Speaker 1: of course, is the defense minister. Hi, can you believe
[28:49] Speaker 1: it is dry?
[28:50] Speaker 12: And already this year we have produced another increase in
[28:55] Speaker 12: the minimum wage.
[28:58] Speaker 1: Oh hi, glad you're there. Tell it show this frugly people. Right,
[29:03] Speaker 1: And here's a role mate, Chris Bowen. Being Chris Bowen.
[29:07] Speaker 8: Is your renewable ramp.
[29:09] Speaker 12: In the first five months of twenty twenty six, there
[29:12] Speaker 12: was more wind and solar ready to build than in
[29:15] Speaker 12: all of twenty twenty.
[29:16] Speaker 1: Five, or in a second, more moray life. Get to
[29:22] Speaker 1: know what you think at any time. You can always
[29:23] Speaker 1: send me the feedback. Poultsgarde News dot com dot A
[29:25] Speaker 1: you what about Australian cricket? We mentioned this last night,
[29:27] Speaker 1: but Sunday nights it's hard for some, so let's do
[29:29] Speaker 1: it again. They're going to play on January twenty six,
[29:31] Speaker 1: but god forbid they won't sing the national anthem. That
[29:33] Speaker 1: would be offensive. Right, Thank you very much for watching
[29:42] Speaker 1: wherever you're happy to be. Do appreciate it. A very
[29:44] Speaker 1: good suggestion from a dear friend of mine watching right now.
[29:47] Speaker 1: That a good thing when it comes to potholes as
[29:48] Speaker 1: well is why not get ways in Google Maps to
[29:51] Speaker 1: be giving information directly to government or authorities or counsels.
[29:55] Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant idea. See fix the basics,
[29:58] Speaker 1: stop trying to change the freaking world. Nicholas Rees, of
[30:01] Speaker 1: course represents one of those local councils, that being the
[30:03] Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Melbourne done where. I'm not going to
[30:05] Speaker 1: talk about podoles on Collins Street if there are any,
[30:08] Speaker 1: but we'll get to that in a second. Lou O'Brien,
[30:10] Speaker 1: of course, as a member of the LNP, I love
[30:12] Speaker 1: that big old flag and he joins us in place
[30:15] Speaker 1: of Matt Canavan, who is taking a little break at
[30:16] Speaker 1: the moment in the middle of the year. So Lou
[30:19] Speaker 1: I might guess from your background you agree with me
[30:21] Speaker 1: the cricket Australian deciding, well, well, we've kind of got
[30:24] Speaker 1: to find a place for the final game of the
[30:26] Speaker 1: Big Bash. All right, there's a day at the end
[30:28] Speaker 1: of January. It's on the twenty sixth, but it could
[30:30] Speaker 1: offend some people, so we won't do the national anthem.
[30:34] Speaker 1: This is for the final of a sporting com.
[30:36] Speaker 12: Come on, when are these turkeys going to wake up?
[30:43] Speaker 12: This is the greatest country on Earth and it deserves
[30:46] Speaker 12: to be celebrated. It's counterproductive what they're doing as well.
[30:50] Speaker 12: If they think they're going to unite people by missing
[30:54] Speaker 12: very important elements on our national Day like the anthem
[30:59] Speaker 12: and actually acknowledge it as an Australia Day event, they
[31:02] Speaker 12: will just get a complete backlash.
[31:06] Speaker 1: As we've seen in the past.
[31:07] Speaker 12: It's not good for unity, it won't be good for
[31:09] Speaker 12: their balance sheet. They need to wake up. This is
[31:12] Speaker 12: just madness. We live in the greatest country on earth.
[31:15] Speaker 12: Every single Australian should be celebrating that on Australia Day
[31:19] Speaker 12: and if there's one day where we can show that
[31:22] Speaker 12: we are united, we can celebrate our Aboriginal, British and
[31:27] Speaker 12: multicultural heritage, it should be Australia Day, not canceling elements
[31:31] Speaker 12: of it.
[31:31] Speaker 1: It's just craziness. Yeah, correct, I agree with the word
[31:35] Speaker 1: you're almost said. It starts with a bee, it ends
[31:36] Speaker 1: with the tea, and I'm completely with you. All right. Now,
[31:39] Speaker 1: we've talked many a time about your love of Australia Day.
[31:42] Speaker 1: So again, you can be sensitive to all of the issues,
[31:46] Speaker 1: completely aware of all of the changes that have taken place,
[31:50] Speaker 1: and be fully committed to the future of our country.
[31:53] Speaker 1: But you can sing the national hearthom on Australia Day
[31:56] Speaker 1: without that being some sort of active white pride that
[31:59] Speaker 1: will offend everyone in the crowd.
[32:02] Speaker 4: Well, Paul, as you know, my patriotism compels me to say, yes, lou,
[32:07] Speaker 4: you are right. We live in the greatest country in
[32:10] Speaker 4: the world and we should absolutely celebrate it. In fact,
[32:13] Speaker 4: every day you wake up in this country you should
[32:16] Speaker 4: be giving thanks that you have won the lottery of
[32:18] Speaker 4: life to be living here. I think it is also
[32:21] Speaker 4: our fact that January twenty six causes hurt and is
[32:26] Speaker 4: seen as a day of mourning for a very sizable
[32:30] Speaker 4: and important segment of the Australian community. I personally favor
[32:35] Speaker 4: us changing the day we celebrate our national Day from
[32:39] Speaker 4: January twenty six, but I also agree that so long
[32:43] Speaker 4: as January twenty six is the Australia Day, then yes,
[32:46] Speaker 4: you should play the national anthem on that day and
[32:49] Speaker 4: hold citizenship ceremonies like we do at the City of Melbourne.
[32:53] Speaker 1: Beautifully skated, Beautifully skated by because you fall eventually fifty
[32:56] Speaker 1: points zero percent zero one on the right side of
[32:59] Speaker 1: an ology away, I'll let you get away with it
[33:01] Speaker 1: for now, all right, So let us get back to
[33:03] Speaker 1: where I just mentioned it. I am going to spend
[33:05] Speaker 1: a bit more time talking about this because I can't
[33:07] Speaker 1: help but think if you do the basics, well, then
[33:10] Speaker 1: that becomes the foundation to do a whole lot more
[33:12] Speaker 1: on top of it. Nick, Obviously, when it comes to Melbourne,
[33:14] Speaker 1: one of the things that you were able to do
[33:16] Speaker 1: when your reelection was talk about things like graffiti, right,
[33:19] Speaker 1: And I know there are plenty of people in local
[33:21] Speaker 1: government that want to change the world, change the planet,
[33:23] Speaker 1: all the rest of it, but I don't think you
[33:24] Speaker 1: can really reach for that until you've done the basics.
[33:28] Speaker 1: I spent a bit of time talking about potholes. Do
[33:30] Speaker 1: you agree with me that before you can build trust
[33:32] Speaker 1: on everything else, just do the basics first.
[33:36] Speaker 4: Oh look, I couldn't agree more with that. I think
[33:38] Speaker 4: often political experts and I count you and I Paul
[33:41] Speaker 4: in that segment.
[33:42] Speaker 1: These days, look at you.
[33:44] Speaker 4: We tend to talk about, you know, ideology and philosophical
[33:48] Speaker 4: nuances and things. Most voters are really interested in governments
[33:53] Speaker 4: and that get the basics right. I mean, it's interesting
[33:56] Speaker 4: to me that ma'm Darney, who is a Social List
[34:00] Speaker 4: Democrat in the US, ran on a campaign of fixing
[34:05] Speaker 4: potholes in New York City. He said he was going
[34:07] Speaker 4: to fix one hundred thousand potholes in his first one
[34:10] Speaker 4: hundred days.
[34:10] Speaker 3: And I suspect you.
[34:11] Speaker 4: And ma'm Darmy don't see the world in the same way.
[34:15] Speaker 4: It just proves the point that basics are the basics,
[34:18] Speaker 4: and that's what people want you to do first.
[34:20] Speaker 1: Well, and that broken clock is right two times a day.
[34:22] Speaker 1: But yes, I know what you're saying, Lou Again. I
[34:25] Speaker 1: get it that you're part of the federal conversation. But
[34:28] Speaker 1: when we talk about trust and all the different reasons
[34:30] Speaker 1: that people left, right and center are going enough. I
[34:32] Speaker 1: don't whatever whatever's what's the ripcord I can pull that
[34:35] Speaker 1: I don't have to be part of this conversation anymore.
[34:38] Speaker 1: Is that because we have failed to deal with the
[34:40] Speaker 1: basics while announcing all of this sort of stuff that
[34:44] Speaker 1: kind of gets you on the news, but nobody feels
[34:47] Speaker 1: it actually changes their lives.
[34:51] Speaker 12: Absolutely absolutely, And you're certainly not going to get any
[34:54] Speaker 12: argument from me about extra road funding. Being a former
[34:57] Speaker 12: cop and former traffic accident investigator, I've seen enough of
[35:02] Speaker 12: the carnage on the roads, and any extra money that
[35:07] Speaker 12: we can spend on our roads, on our road network
[35:10] Speaker 12: is money well spent. Getting people home safely to their
[35:14] Speaker 12: families is the best money any government, any level of government,
[35:18] Speaker 12: can spend. And your dead set spot on it's basic.
[35:23] Speaker 12: Our society relies on it. That the statistics are going
[35:27] Speaker 12: the wrong way when it comes to road safety as well,
[35:29] Speaker 12: where it's actually going up. We have over forty thousand
[35:33] Speaker 12: serious injuries a year on our national road network and
[35:37] Speaker 12: that's something we've got to stop. And a lot of
[35:40] Speaker 12: it is due to substandard roads, particularly in regional areas
[35:44] Speaker 12: where you're twice as likely to get killed. So absolutely,
[35:48] Speaker 12: if road spending is in the election debate, it's a
[35:52] Speaker 12: good thing, more the better.
[35:53] Speaker 1: But also it's one of these issues that is male, female, gay, straight, black, white, brindle, employed, unemployed,
[36:01] Speaker 1: renter own. It's one of those things that is again
[36:05] Speaker 1: the foundations under which we live. Perfect example is about
[36:08] Speaker 1: trying to get rid of the nangs out of Melbourne.
[36:10] Speaker 1: A lot of people might be sitting there Nicholas and
[36:12] Speaker 1: going what's a nang? I won't go into a long
[36:14] Speaker 1: and detailed expression, but it's just another way of somebody
[36:17] Speaker 1: getting high. What are you doing about that in Melbourne?
[36:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is nitrous oxide. Two years ago, Paul,
[36:23] Speaker 4: I'd never heard of nangs. Now they're a blight on
[36:26] Speaker 4: our city and they are on other major cities around Australia.
[36:31] Speaker 1: You can buy them online.
[36:33] Speaker 4: They're putting flavoring in them now to make them more pleasant.
[36:36] Speaker 1: For people to consume.
[36:37] Speaker 4: Of course, it causes all sorts of neural damage, brain rot.
[36:41] Speaker 4: People are dying using these things, and so we've announced
[36:45] Speaker 4: to crack down in the city of Melbourne. We want
[36:49] Speaker 4: to work with the federal and state governments. They should
[36:51] Speaker 4: be limiting the importation of these things. They should be
[36:54] Speaker 4: strongly restricting their sales. There are legitimate uses for them
[36:58] Speaker 4: in hospitality and in medicine, but not as a.
[37:02] Speaker 1: Product for people to get high on.
[37:04] Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a real scourge in Australia and we
[37:07] Speaker 4: need to get out of it straight through.
[37:09] Speaker 1: So Lou the Royal Commission right now, the next phase
[37:11] Speaker 1: of it's dealing with anti Semitism and social cohesion, is
[37:15] Speaker 1: about the massive problem that exists in our universities and
[37:18] Speaker 1: many extents in other parts of our education system. As always,
[37:22] Speaker 1: the examples are horrific, but it is clearly something that
[37:27] Speaker 1: needs to be dealt with. What's your thoughts of the
[37:29] Speaker 1: first couple of days of how this is being dealt
[37:32] Speaker 1: with by the Royal Commission. Look, it's very interesting.
[37:38] Speaker 12: I'm always reluctant to force new regulation on society, particularly
[37:43] Speaker 12: around speech. But these are supposed to be institutions of learning,
[37:49] Speaker 12: not factories of activism and hate, which is what some
[37:52] Speaker 12: of these universities have turned out to be with some
[37:55] Speaker 12: of the academics that are working there, students and staff.
[38:01] Speaker 12: Jewish students and staff should be there to learn and
[38:04] Speaker 12: work and not feel like they're being hunted. So considering
[38:09] Speaker 12: that we're paying twenty two billion dollars a year to
[38:11] Speaker 12: these institutions, we've got a right to say these are
[38:15] Speaker 12: the standards and they're absolutely not being met. It's just
[38:19] Speaker 12: outrageous what's going on, and they need to be pulled
[38:22] Speaker 12: into line.
[38:23] Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean Nicholas again previously had plenty of experience
[38:27] Speaker 1: inside the university sector. The reality is is that we
[38:30] Speaker 1: keep being told about safe spaces and safe spaces and
[38:32] Speaker 1: safe spaces for all this that and the other and
[38:35] Speaker 1: other versions and the fragments and sections of our society.
[38:38] Speaker 1: Clearly it hasn't extended to Jewish students. Yeah.
[38:42] Speaker 4: Look, I'd probably end up in the same place as
[38:44] Speaker 4: lou on this one, but I get they're a slightly
[38:47] Speaker 4: different path. I mean, kids have been protesting at universities
[38:51] Speaker 4: for decades and you know, it's part of the political
[38:54] Speaker 4: and university landscape in Australia and it's not surprising to
[38:57] Speaker 4: me that kids have been protesting and camping out.
[39:01] Speaker 1: Over what we've seen in Gardza.
[39:03] Speaker 4: Those images on the news are very, very distressing, But
[39:07] Speaker 4: I think what has happened is that in some instances
[39:11] Speaker 4: we have seen that protest movement mutate into anti semitism,
[39:16] Speaker 4: like there is kids, there's things happening to Jewish kids
[39:19] Speaker 4: on campus is completely wrong and should never be happening.
[39:23] Speaker 1: On a university campus.
[39:24] Speaker 4: So I do think there is a case there for
[39:27] Speaker 4: some stronger regulation in this area, some clear rules around
[39:31] Speaker 4: you know, anti Semitism, Islamophobia, and hate director towards Aboriginal people,
[39:36] Speaker 4: and just racism in general. So yeah, I favor some
[39:40] Speaker 4: stronger rules, a stronger framework on university campuses in this
[39:43] Speaker 4: regard all.
[39:43] Speaker 1: Our last one here, the Senate show trial of the
[39:47] Speaker 1: Telstra CEO is on its way. Oh imagine the lashing
[39:50] Speaker 1: that's going to come from Sarah Hanson Young. Look, I
[39:54] Speaker 1: was on the radio on the way here, listening to
[39:57] Speaker 1: the mate John Stanley on t JB and four beats.
[40:00] Speaker 1: He had a caller who couldn't make it to a
[40:03] Speaker 1: funeral last week, so he was planning to watch his
[40:06] Speaker 1: mother's funeral online. Obviously that didn't happen. Hopefully it was taped.
[40:10] Speaker 1: We'll find it that on that program in the next
[40:13] Speaker 1: of a while. But there's lots and lots of stories
[40:15] Speaker 1: of trauma, and I am not at all minimizing the
[40:17] Speaker 1: trauma and disruption of what happened last week. But Sarah
[40:20] Speaker 1: Hanson Young waving your finger at you or a whole
[40:22] Speaker 1: bunch of politicians screaming at you, no offense, Lubert, Please.
[40:28] Speaker 11: I agree, Paul.
[40:30] Speaker 1: This is.
[40:32] Speaker 12: A shocker that Telstra has had some sort of era
[40:36] Speaker 12: that took the clock back to two thousand and six.
[40:38] Speaker 1: It's a problem.
[40:39] Speaker 12: It's a pity we wouldn't have the same problem in
[40:41] Speaker 12: the Treasury computers, so our national accounts had go back
[40:44] Speaker 12: to two thousand and six and we're brought off all
[40:46] Speaker 12: of that, all of that deficit debt we've got at
[40:49] Speaker 12: the moment. But look, it's it's serious. As I said before,
[40:53] Speaker 12: as an ex copper, I know what when people need
[40:56] Speaker 12: to ring Triple O, they really need help and they
[41:00] Speaker 12: need you know, they need to be able to contact
[41:03] Speaker 12: the police emergency services. And if that doesn't happen across
[41:06] Speaker 12: such a vast area and for an extended period of time,
[41:12] Speaker 12: and the cause of it is our national telco, well
[41:16] Speaker 12: we need to haul them before someone to have a look.
[41:20] Speaker 12: But yeah, look, I don't know what will come of that.
[41:24] Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, I mean, it's just this thing where
[41:27] Speaker 1: look are the problems. Should they be fixed, sure, but
[41:29] Speaker 1: there's a performance about all of this Nick that I
[41:32] Speaker 1: just couldn't be bothered going through.
[41:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in Australia doesn't need another show trial
[41:36] Speaker 4: on these things. But I do think it's you know,
[41:38] Speaker 4: we could have a big conversation about the nature of
[41:41] Speaker 4: what used to be called utility services and whether it's telecommunications,
[41:46] Speaker 4: energy supplies, aviation. These are the basic building blocks of
[41:51] Speaker 4: a modern economy, modern society. And you know, when you
[41:54] Speaker 4: find out that Telstra has seen an entire nation network
[41:58] Speaker 4: go down because of the twenty thousand dollars bit of
[42:01] Speaker 4: equipment a server that stopped being made ten years ago,
[42:04] Speaker 4: you can't help but wonder what's going on inside Telstra.
[42:08] Speaker 4: That means that they are so stripping out costs maximizing
[42:12] Speaker 4: profit that they're not it's investing in the absolute essentials.
[42:15] Speaker 4: And let's not forget this is the third major telecommunications
[42:19] Speaker 4: company that's had a national outage in the last two months,
[42:22] Speaker 4: So something is going on here in the telecommunications industry.
[42:26] Speaker 4: You see similar things going on in other sectors and
[42:29] Speaker 4: I think we're going to get some value at its inquiry,
[42:32] Speaker 4: which look at some big questions about how these industries
[42:34] Speaker 4: are structured, and how to ensure we've got resilience there
[42:37] Speaker 4: so we don't see this happen again.
[42:39] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to get to Trevor long On later
[42:41] Speaker 1: in the week to talk about local roaming. Maybe that's
[42:43] Speaker 1: part of the answer here too. All right, lad's do
[42:44] Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll talk to you again very soon. Quick
[42:46] Speaker 1: break back with more what's going on with Harry and
[42:49] Speaker 1: Meghan finally being able to meet with Charles all but
[42:52] Speaker 1: behind closed doors? But is it just more fodder for
[42:55] Speaker 1: their next winge against the Crown? Or in a second,
[43:03] Speaker 1: let's have some royal talk right now. Sir Louise Robertson
[43:05] Speaker 1: joins us now from the United Kingdom, where, of course
[43:08] Speaker 1: there was a moment when father and son reunited, daughter
[43:11] Speaker 1: in law, was their grandchildren one and all the beginning
[43:14] Speaker 1: of a new chapter or just the next fodder for
[43:17] Speaker 1: the next book?
[43:17] Speaker 7: Mate, Hillo that Paul, Oh good evening, shall I say
[43:22] Speaker 7: to you over in Australia?
[43:24] Speaker 3: Yes, this is an interesting one.
[43:25] Speaker 7: It was the reunion that I think most royal fans
[43:29] Speaker 7: would never thought would happen in the King's lifetime, but happened,
[43:33] Speaker 7: it did, Harry and Meghan and Lily and little Archie
[43:40] Speaker 7: were invited by King Charles to his private home High
[43:44] Speaker 7: Grove in Gloucestershire, where I was told they enjoyed. It
[43:49] Speaker 7: was an enjoyable afternoon. They spent a little bit of
[43:52] Speaker 7: time with the King. Queen ca Milla was also their present.
[43:55] Speaker 7: There was an afternoon tea and it was a chance
[43:58] Speaker 7: for King Charles to finally have some much needed time
[44:03] Speaker 7: with his grandchildren. He's only seen them a couple of
[44:07] Speaker 7: times since they've been born. This is the first time
[44:10] Speaker 7: he's been with them in four years, Paul, so it's
[44:13] Speaker 7: been a long time in the waiting.
[44:16] Speaker 3: But apparently it was a success.
[44:17] Speaker 7: And they looked around the King's private gardens and High Grove,
[44:21] Speaker 7: and the King was overjoyed to be spending time with
[44:24] Speaker 7: his family.
[44:25] Speaker 3: At long last.
[44:26] Speaker 1: Look the dad and future granddad. At some point in
[44:29] Speaker 1: my life in me understands why there's a need for
[44:32] Speaker 1: healing and a want as opposed to all of the
[44:34] Speaker 1: formal duties and titles and security and all the rest,
[44:36] Speaker 1: but just that interpersonality, get back the trust, build back
[44:39] Speaker 1: the familiarity. All makes sense. But what I also love
[44:43] Speaker 1: is that Megan was able to come into the country,
[44:46] Speaker 1: to be in the country and presumably leave the country
[44:47] Speaker 1: with not a single photo being taken, meaning every other
[44:51] Speaker 1: opportunity somebody who's been told where to be and when
[44:54] Speaker 1: to take the photo right.
[44:56] Speaker 7: Exactly, Well, this is it so long we have been
[45:01] Speaker 7: the line that has been trotted out by Prince Harry.
[45:03] Speaker 7: I mean, we know he's took ravac our security and
[45:06] Speaker 7: the Home Office to court about this is that he
[45:09] Speaker 7: couldn't bring his children and wife to England because it
[45:13] Speaker 7: was in Harry's words, and safe and claims of death
[45:16] Speaker 7: threats against them and all the rest of it.
[45:19] Speaker 3: Yet Meghan, when she doesn't want.
[45:21] Speaker 7: To be seen, when her favorite chosen paparazzi aren't being
[45:26] Speaker 7: tipped off, can quite easily slip in.
[45:30] Speaker 3: Unannounced, without any.
[45:32] Speaker 7: Intrut of photos all the rest of it, into the country.
[45:36] Speaker 7: So it just goes to show that they can do
[45:38] Speaker 7: it when they want to, And it just just begs
[45:42] Speaker 7: the question, doesn't it, Paul? Why?
[45:44] Speaker 3: Until now?
[45:45] Speaker 7: This is because Meghan has run out of excuses. There
[45:48] Speaker 7: was no more excuses she could give as to why
[45:52] Speaker 7: she was not prepared to step foot back in Britain,
[45:56] Speaker 7: and the King very kindly said, Okay, look, tell meet
[46:00] Speaker 7: you halfway. You're going to come to high growth. My
[46:03] Speaker 7: private home is a private audience. Obviously, all the King's security,
[46:07] Speaker 7: best security in the world are all around. So that way,
[46:11] Speaker 7: Meghan had run out of excuses. She couldn't say no anymore.
[46:15] Speaker 3: Social security issue wasn't going to wash.
[46:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, sir Louis. And surely this is the
[46:22] Speaker 1: sign of how to do it in the future, right,
[46:24] Speaker 1: which is, again it's not about the public face, it's
[46:26] Speaker 1: about the private face. Again. If you choose to pull
[46:29] Speaker 1: the pin on your job, okay, find fair enough. If
[46:32] Speaker 1: you argue for privacy, again, find fair enough. If you
[46:35] Speaker 1: are exposed to the hypocrisy that we've all had to
[46:37] Speaker 1: live through, sure we all feel the same way. But
[46:39] Speaker 1: if it's about the personal relationship, you've found the model
[46:42] Speaker 1: where you can do that, maybe every couple of years
[46:45] Speaker 1: until it's no longer an option.
[46:48] Speaker 7: I agree with you, absolutely, that's how it should be.
[46:51] Speaker 3: But we know that with.
[46:52] Speaker 7: Megan Markel it's always on Megan's terms. What Megan wants
[46:57] Speaker 7: is what Megan gets, and you've got to also in
[47:00] Speaker 7: that with Meghan and Harry. But more or less, Meghan
[47:04] Speaker 7: really mostly Meghan is there's always an ulterior motive behind
[47:10] Speaker 7: that woman's actions. And we've come to a point where California,
[47:15] Speaker 7: the Hollywood lifestyle, the success that she thought she was
[47:18] Speaker 7: going to get with her lifestyle brand is running.
[47:22] Speaker 3: It's just going downhill. It's come to a halt.
[47:24] Speaker 7: Really, the money is at the great big money she
[47:27] Speaker 7: was expecting to come into the bank of Meghan isn't
[47:30] Speaker 7: coming in so much anymore.
[47:31] Speaker 3: So what does she need to do.
[47:33] Speaker 7: To propel her brand forwards? To give her some much
[47:38] Speaker 7: needed positive publicity which is going to help shift all
[47:42] Speaker 7: those jars of jam which are going to dust in
[47:44] Speaker 7: a warehouse somewhere outside of Silicon Valley or wherever the
[47:47] Speaker 7: hell it is. She's got to be seen to be
[47:51] Speaker 7: back in with the Royle family. And what better than
[47:54] Speaker 7: to get back in with your father and Lord King Charles,
[47:56] Speaker 7: the man whose finger controls the money and finances.
[48:01] Speaker 3: That's the most powerful man you need on site.
[48:04] Speaker 7: It's kind of dawns on Megan, m who do I
[48:07] Speaker 7: need to get back in with. Who's going to help
[48:09] Speaker 7: give us cash, pay the mortgage, pay for everything else,
[48:13] Speaker 7: pay for the kids public school. When Archie comes across
[48:16] Speaker 7: to eat it in five years or whenever.
[48:18] Speaker 3: It's going to be the King.
[48:20] Speaker 1: Good stuff, What to do, Sarah Lloyds Robertson. Awesome, You're
[48:24] Speaker 1: a star. And next time we get you back on,
[48:26] Speaker 1: I want to talk about that thing that's next to you.
[48:27] Speaker 1: I love that juggler or whatever, that whatever that statue
[48:30] Speaker 1: is next to you. Tell you, you can tell you.
[48:33] Speaker 3: This is Patty. I'll tell you about him next time.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Good, we will do it well.
[48:36] Speaker 3: This is Victoria.
[48:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, Patty and Victoria. We will learn more together in
[48:40] Speaker 1: the future. Thank you, but appreciate it. Quick break back
[48:42] Speaker 1: with more. Will remember sam Ny next forgive me him.
[48:49] Speaker 1: Overtime I'll spend more time talking about sam Neil. But
[48:52] Speaker 1: a terrible loss to the entertainment industry and certainly to
[48:55] Speaker 1: see my little girl a Zadi in particular, who loves
[48:58] Speaker 1: Jeressey Park, knowing that a figure that she only knows
[49:02] Speaker 1: as a character and the man behind it is no
[49:04] Speaker 1: longer gone. Yeah, deeply impactful. We'll talk about it again
[49:06] Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Sorry for going so long. Here's late to bait.

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.