# Paul Murray Live | 5 November

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 5 Nov 2025, 50 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/0a29b903-8455-41d5-aa5f-b38c00bb5cce/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Alex Hawke unloads on the PM in a fiery Question Time, Albanese splashes $1 billion on his green gala. Plus, another Dan Andrews promise goes up in smoke as Victorian power prices rise. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Sky New Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:06] Speaker 1: Thank you, Charie. We are researching this show right up
[0:08] Speaker 1: into the minute it goes to where because there is
[0:10] Speaker 1: a lot around, including the AFL has been accused by
[0:13] Speaker 1: the Human Rights Commission of not doing enough when it
[0:15] Speaker 1: comes to racism. Now we know how woke the AFL is,
[0:19] Speaker 1: but apparently I ain't wike enough. We'll discuss that. Yes,
[0:21] Speaker 1: there has been elections in the United States. Yes, Zora
[0:24] Speaker 1: and Mandani is the next mayor of New York City.
[0:26] Speaker 1: But there is one election that no one has talked
[0:29] Speaker 1: about thus far today, almost anywhere in Australia that actually
[0:33] Speaker 1: is the one that is truly consequential to Trump and
[0:36] Speaker 1: the Republicans. The data, the inside story. Next, and the
[0:40] Speaker 1: wonderful Megan Kelly. As always, we love her and she's
[0:43] Speaker 1: with us each and every Wednesday night.
[0:46] Speaker 2: This is my weekend.
[0:47] Speaker 3: Look and if you see a picture of me on
[0:49] Speaker 3: the way, no but no makeup. But if you see
[0:51] Speaker 3: a picture of me on the weekend with anything other
[0:53] Speaker 3: than this hair.
[0:54] Speaker 2: It's a lie.
[0:56] Speaker 1: It's a long story. We'll get there. We'll get there,
[0:59] Speaker 1: all right. But first question time today, finally a little
[1:02] Speaker 1: bit of fight from the Libs. Now we know it
[1:05] Speaker 1: has been a rough year. They started the year thinking
[1:07] Speaker 1: they were going to win government. They end the year
[1:10] Speaker 1: with a whole lot of problems. They lost an awful
[1:13] Speaker 1: lot of seats on top of the previous amount of
[1:15] Speaker 1: seats that they lost at the last election, and of
[1:16] Speaker 1: course all of the internal fighting about which way to
[1:18] Speaker 1: go when it comes to net zero. But there are
[1:21] Speaker 1: plenty of things to remain angry about when it comes
[1:23] Speaker 1: to this government. They are arrogant, they are up themselves.
[1:25] Speaker 1: They are spending too much money or detail that more
[1:28] Speaker 1: in a second. So today a bit of back and forth,
[1:30] Speaker 1: and good on them for not back and down.
[1:34] Speaker 4: Government spending is running four times faster than the economy,
[1:38] Speaker 4: given that repeatedly the Treasurer refuses to take responsibility for this,
[1:46] Speaker 4: Prime Minister, will you take responsibility?
[1:52] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you are hopeless. You are hopeless,
[1:55] Speaker 1: and the liar and the liar lying to the Australian
[1:58] Speaker 1: people lying in order. Then a line is in or not?
[2:02] Speaker 1: This is a line.
[2:04] Speaker 5: A line, that's what we're debating here, and I'm having
[2:09] Speaker 5: a debate it.
[2:10] Speaker 1: They're good, bug of them, these people. They fly far
[2:14] Speaker 1: too high and like Icarus, we know what happens in
[2:16] Speaker 1: the end, but we'll see what happens. That said, let's
[2:18] Speaker 1: get to spending other people's money. Another example, another day,
[2:23] Speaker 1: another billion dollars of other people's money. Now the reality
[2:29] Speaker 1: is is that what they are willing to tell us publicly,
[2:31] Speaker 1: and we know this government loves hiding everything under a
[2:33] Speaker 1: rug charmers, is going to set us off on not one,
[2:36] Speaker 1: not to not five, but probably ten years of deficits,
[2:39] Speaker 1: or at least what the four years are telling us.
[2:42] Speaker 1: When you have a look at the treasury numbers, that
[2:44] Speaker 1: becomes forty years of budget deficits. We already have a
[2:48] Speaker 1: trillion dollars in debt, because every single one of those
[2:51] Speaker 1: little blue lines added on top of each other makes
[2:54] Speaker 1: it a trillion. Once we head ten years down the track,
[2:57] Speaker 1: it might be a lot higher than a trillion. You
[2:59] Speaker 1: add another few to that, you had a few, or
[3:00] Speaker 1: you add a few. According to these predictions, we're going
[3:03] Speaker 1: to end up on the best part of at least
[3:04] Speaker 1: two trillion dollars. But nothing to see here, because you see,
[3:07] Speaker 1: this government thinks that they have one hundred percent someone
[3:10] Speaker 1: up Astralian politics that they will never lose again that
[3:13] Speaker 1: whoever's currently the last member of the back bench will
[3:16] Speaker 1: eventually get their turn to be prime minister. They will
[3:19] Speaker 1: rule forever, which means while they keep one eye on
[3:24] Speaker 1: running this joint, they keep another rye on impressing the world.
[3:28] Speaker 1: As we know. The Prime Minister despite the fact that
[3:30] Speaker 1: when Airbus Albo was something he worried about, he wouldn't
[3:32] Speaker 1: go anywhere near the un Of course, now he's mister international,
[3:36] Speaker 1: isn't he handsome boy in Beijing, best made in Washington,
[3:40] Speaker 1: DC can't pull a crowd of the year end. But
[3:43] Speaker 1: the plan is that they would like to take Australia's
[3:47] Speaker 1: plans when it comes to climate change global In fact,
[3:50] Speaker 1: they would like the globe to come to Australia to
[3:53] Speaker 1: discuss these things. The cop meetings are the ones where
[3:57] Speaker 1: Boris Johnson held a couple of years ago in the
[4:00] Speaker 1: United Kingdom. That was the one that, of course, Joe
[4:02] Speaker 1: Biden slept through. Apparently, despite the fact that Australia is
[4:07] Speaker 1: just one percent of the world's problems, we plan to
[4:09] Speaker 1: be one hundred percent of the world's solution in a
[4:12] Speaker 1: couple of years time. This is going to cost apparently
[4:17] Speaker 1: one b four billion dollars for US to host a
[4:21] Speaker 1: UN Climate summit in Adelaide. I love adelaide It deserves
[4:25] Speaker 1: as many events as possible. But this is of course ridiculous. Firstly,
[4:29] Speaker 1: Turkey is also bidding with us at the same time
[4:32] Speaker 1: bidding against us, as if we're going for a soccer
[4:34] Speaker 1: World Cup in Olympic Games. The idea that we can't
[4:37] Speaker 1: do a deal, wait our turn whatever. But secondly the
[4:40] Speaker 1: idea that when theoretically every dollar counts, that we've got
[4:45] Speaker 1: a billion dollars to put on a look at us,
[4:47] Speaker 1: show when we are one percent of the world's problem.
[4:49] Speaker 1: And even if we did one hundred percent of what
[4:52] Speaker 1: even a tiffany deal would like to take place, guess what,
[4:56] Speaker 1: it will not affect the global climate. Why because show
[4:59] Speaker 1: you again the climate clock. Australia is one percent of
[5:02] Speaker 1: the world's problem. You can see China takes us from
[5:05] Speaker 1: top of the clock to quarter past. The rest of
[5:08] Speaker 1: the world, the Third world will take it a half past.
[5:10] Speaker 1: The United States will take you to probably about to
[5:14] Speaker 1: somewhere on the way to twenty two India, Russia forty
[5:18] Speaker 1: five minutes of the climate clock. Australia could do absolutely
[5:22] Speaker 1: everything and it will not stop the intensity because the
[5:27] Speaker 1: countries that much bigger problems are traveling much slower or
[5:31] Speaker 1: not at all. Yet Australia is apparently going to find
[5:35] Speaker 1: a billion dollars from where I don't know, and presumably
[5:40] Speaker 1: if I'm not going to cut anything, then it's going
[5:41] Speaker 1: to go on the credit card. And the credit card's
[5:43] Speaker 1: only already one tea for trillion dollars and done by
[5:46] Speaker 1: the bs. That a's the Libs who ruined the economy.
[5:49] Speaker 1: That's job keeper, that was job seeker. The cost of
[5:56] Speaker 1: hosting next years United Nations Climate Change something in Adelaide
[5:59] Speaker 1: would be at LEAs one b billion dollars, by the way,
[6:02] Speaker 1: not according to some far right wing think tank, not
[6:05] Speaker 1: a number somebody's pulling out of their backside, but the
[6:07] Speaker 1: Albaneze government's own estimates, further fueling mixed views within the
[6:12] Speaker 1: cabinet about the desirability of securing the event. Separate government
[6:18] Speaker 1: sources confirmed one billion dollar hosting cost, but they would
[6:23] Speaker 1: not divulge the details because it all depends on what's
[6:25] Speaker 1: in and what's not. At previous cops, there have been
[6:28] Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people at other cops, there's been
[6:30] Speaker 1: more than one hundred thousand people who come. Now understandably,
[6:36] Speaker 1: there are plenty who say, if this government has a
[6:39] Speaker 1: billion bucks, maybe there is a better way and a
[6:41] Speaker 1: better place to put that billion bucks. But of course
[6:44] Speaker 1: they will spend the billion dollars because they don't care
[6:47] Speaker 1: about a trillion dollars. They don't care about hundreds of
[6:53] Speaker 1: millions of dollars blowout in public services. They don't care
[6:58] Speaker 1: that almost forty percent in federal budget is welfare compared
[7:02] Speaker 1: to about five percent that's national defense. All they care
[7:06] Speaker 1: about is the triangle of dependence where you get a
[7:10] Speaker 1: handout from the government, you get you work for the government,
[7:15] Speaker 1: or of course the government is your biggest customer. That's
[7:18] Speaker 1: all they care about, because the bigger the triangle becomes,
[7:20] Speaker 1: the more likely no one rocks the boat and nobody
[7:22] Speaker 1: gets rid of the government. Hence why Victoria is where
[7:25] Speaker 1: it is, Hence why until recently Coinsland is where it was.
[7:29] Speaker 1: Hence why Australia is about to get the sort of
[7:31] Speaker 1: Andrew's style approach on the national level, and that triangle
[7:36] Speaker 1: of dependence nothing more, nothing less, will be the reason
[7:39] Speaker 1: why they're probably going to semit themselves in for some time.
[7:42] Speaker 1: But David Little, proud leader of the Nationals, we know
[7:44] Speaker 1: they're not into the net zero thing, so they wouldn't
[7:46] Speaker 1: be interested in this being hosted at all. Have a
[7:49] Speaker 1: view about a bidion dollars being spent on this.
[7:53] Speaker 6: I think this government's priorities are all wrong, and we
[7:56] Speaker 6: could spend that billion or even half a billion in
[7:59] Speaker 6: a lot ways that build your hospital somewhere across this
[8:03] Speaker 6: country over the next five years, instead of spending on
[8:06] Speaker 6: a conference that goes for two weeks.
[8:09] Speaker 1: Well, I got an idea about where we could spend
[8:10] Speaker 1: one b four billion dollars that would change people's lives
[8:15] Speaker 1: for probably the next twenty years, and it is helping
[8:19] Speaker 1: the charities of this country that take care of people
[8:22] Speaker 1: who run out of food. You know how often I
[8:25] Speaker 1: have spoken about food bank. You know how often I
[8:28] Speaker 1: spoke about it for years in the first term, in
[8:31] Speaker 1: the lead up to the election, and now post today
[8:35] Speaker 1: they release their new report for twenty and twenty five.
[8:39] Speaker 1: This is shocking reading. This is heartbreaking reading. Every page
[8:45] Speaker 1: a receipt of the deceit of a government that promises
[8:48] Speaker 1: to make things better, but because they piss money away
[8:52] Speaker 1: like this as opposed to giving money to organizations like
[8:55] Speaker 1: food bank. We get into a scenario where, in this
[8:59] Speaker 1: very report, fifty percent of houses in New South Wales
[9:04] Speaker 1: and the act that are currently renting have problems with
[9:09] Speaker 1: food on the table at least once a week. Twenty
[9:13] Speaker 1: eight percent of people paying off a mortgage every one
[9:17] Speaker 1: of those households. And remember a household could have one
[9:19] Speaker 1: or ten people in it, so one point one million
[9:23] Speaker 1: households is a lot more than one point one million people.
[9:27] Speaker 1: Yet these wankers are going to spend a billion dollars
[9:31] Speaker 1: fluffing themselves up on the global stage because Australia needs
[9:34] Speaker 1: to look like we are the solution when we are
[9:37] Speaker 1: one percent of the problem. It's a disgrace what they
[9:40] Speaker 1: are doing. And I saw the Prime Minister in question
[9:42] Speaker 1: time today try to pretend, oh the Libs don't care
[9:44] Speaker 1: about a food bank. Well, guess who was the only
[9:47] Speaker 1: party at the last election who was promising extra money
[9:50] Speaker 1: for foodbank. Oh that's right, the very people who are
[9:53] Speaker 1: still asking questions about it, and the people who you say,
[9:56] Speaker 1: Prime Minister don't care. The test about whether someone cares
[9:59] Speaker 1: or not is what you are doing with your ability
[10:04] Speaker 1: to spend our money. Now The federal government does give
[10:07] Speaker 1: some money to a second Bite to food bank, but
[10:13] Speaker 1: collectively it's less than one hundred million dollars. In just
[10:17] Speaker 1: one state and the capital territory where our Parliament sits,
[10:21] Speaker 1: one point one million households are in this scenario where
[10:24] Speaker 1: they're running out of food. To be precise, six hundred
[10:28] Speaker 1: and eighty two thousand households in Australia could have one person,
[10:33] Speaker 1: could have ten people in them. They are skipping meals
[10:35] Speaker 1: or they are missing meals at least one day a week.
[10:40] Speaker 1: Do not tell me that the single most important thing
[10:42] Speaker 1: for Australia is to make sure that we can look
[10:46] Speaker 1: good on the international stage. So many of the people
[10:49] Speaker 1: who are currently working in government will eventually be able
[10:51] Speaker 1: to go off and work for the very industries of
[10:53] Speaker 1: which they are currently separating the Seas four because that's
[10:59] Speaker 1: the reality. After the pensions that fell away in two
[11:02] Speaker 1: thousand and four, the current day politician is often looking
[11:05] Speaker 1: forward to their next career, and too often we see,
[11:08] Speaker 1: as we have in decades before, as we will in
[11:11] Speaker 1: decades to come, the people who regulate industries are able
[11:14] Speaker 1: to go and then work for the industries. Jeez, I
[11:16] Speaker 1: wonder how they end up with such a great relationship
[11:19] Speaker 1: with those industries. It is our disgrace that when a
[11:24] Speaker 1: government has a choice of how to spend a billion dollars,
[11:26] Speaker 1: it will spend it on the collective wank that is
[11:29] Speaker 1: going to be cop in Adelaide, and they will not
[11:32] Speaker 1: give anywhere near a billion dollars to the charities who
[11:37] Speaker 1: make sure people have something to eat. Now, the problem
[11:41] Speaker 1: is in many ways because of the bastardry at times
[11:45] Speaker 1: of this Prime minister, the pig headedness and arrogance of
[11:49] Speaker 1: the people around him, including the treasurer, is that they
[11:52] Speaker 1: will almost punish an organization like food Bank because people
[11:57] Speaker 1: they don't like, like me, know to that organizations like
[12:01] Speaker 1: food bank are in the world of pain that they are.
[12:05] Speaker 1: It says everything about the morality of the people in
[12:08] Speaker 1: charge that when they decide a priority, when they're going
[12:12] Speaker 1: to put money on a credit card, they're going to
[12:14] Speaker 1: spend it on a billion dollars on a climate change
[12:17] Speaker 1: conference that, by the way, the Prime Minister has not attended.
[12:22] Speaker 1: He won't to attend the one this year, he didn't
[12:24] Speaker 1: the one last year. You see where it's somewhere else.
[12:26] Speaker 1: It's not as important when it's here, We're going to
[12:29] Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet for the world, and he's
[12:31] Speaker 1: going to be the global leader for an event he
[12:33] Speaker 1: considers not significant enough to actually attend himself when it's
[12:37] Speaker 1: not in Australia. Now, this report, I repeat, is a disgrace.
[12:43] Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the way it's put together.
[12:45] Speaker 1: I'm talking about the story that it tells. And as
[12:48] Speaker 1: you can tell a lot of pages and a lot
[12:49] Speaker 1: of stories, I'll tell them until there is a government
[12:53] Speaker 1: somewhere somehow that pulls the finger out of its backside
[12:57] Speaker 1: and actually helps instead of coming up with sugar hits
[13:01] Speaker 1: to get through an election, because all the matters is
[13:03] Speaker 1: staying in freaking power. Imagine if you had the capacity
[13:07] Speaker 1: to be able to make sure that your next door
[13:09] Speaker 1: neighbor was able to eat three square a day and
[13:12] Speaker 1: you chose not to, Because that's exactly the choice of
[13:15] Speaker 1: these people as they continue to underfund these organizations. Do
[13:20] Speaker 1: not punish Food Bank Prime Minister, because I keep talking
[13:23] Speaker 1: about it feeding these people. Honestly, Another example, right, let's
[13:30] Speaker 1: hear talk about Daniel andrews Now, long gone from the
[13:34] Speaker 1: Australian political scene, but yet again perfect example about somebody
[13:38] Speaker 1: who's full of bs and then guess what when the
[13:40] Speaker 1: receipts drop, you end up paying more. No one cares, well,
[13:43] Speaker 1: I do, and we're going to follow up. At the
[13:46] Speaker 1: last Victorian election, one of the two most popular policies,
[13:50] Speaker 1: one was the Liberals, which I think was about a
[13:52] Speaker 1: dollar for public transport. The other was for Daniel Andrews
[13:56] Speaker 1: to introduce what was called the State Energy Commission. This
[14:01] Speaker 1: was a state government owned power company that would not
[14:05] Speaker 1: just sell, but generate electricity through all of those renewables.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Remember one of the reasons why we had to do this,
[14:12] Speaker 1: and this was all just a complete distraction. Again excellent politics.
[14:16] Speaker 1: Nobody talked about the thirty three people who died as
[14:18] Speaker 1: a result of triple zero. No one talked about world's
[14:21] Speaker 1: long as lockdowns. Nobody talked about the kids that have
[14:24] Speaker 1: gone backwards in education, all those exposed to abuse. No, No,
[14:27] Speaker 1: this asshole got re elected and was given a little
[14:30] Speaker 1: gold medal for his efforts, because that's what our system rewards.
[14:34] Speaker 1: Because when the triangle of dependence is as rock hard
[14:37] Speaker 1: as it is, when labor governments and democratic socialist labor
[14:41] Speaker 1: governments continue to grow it so it's all one of
[14:44] Speaker 1: three things. You are either somebody who is wedded to
[14:49] Speaker 1: the government being labor on welfare, you are wedded to
[14:52] Speaker 1: the government being labor because your work for the government,
[14:55] Speaker 1: or because they are the biggest client to your business.
[14:58] Speaker 1: This is the whole game, the whole game. Well, what
[15:02] Speaker 1: was his promise when he tried to make this unsuccessfully
[15:05] Speaker 1: a full distraction from his previous four years in the job?
[15:09] Speaker 1: What was the promise of the SEC former premier?
[15:13] Speaker 7: Bringing back the SEC makes all of this possible. It
[15:16] Speaker 7: allows us to take that next step. Electricity that's not
[15:19] Speaker 7: about profit, it's about people. It's not owned by a
[15:22] Speaker 7: greedy company. It's owned by every single Victorian. That's lower bills,
[15:26] Speaker 7: layer emissions, more jobs, more skills, and a much brighter future.
[15:31] Speaker 1: Well, guess what report came out today. Victoria ups power
[15:36] Speaker 1: price forecasts now that the SEC is a market player,
[15:42] Speaker 1: so literally, one of the reasons why power prices are
[15:44] Speaker 1: going to increase in Victoria is because the very thing
[15:46] Speaker 1: that he just told you was going to be cheaper
[15:48] Speaker 1: is now part of the process that's going to make
[15:50] Speaker 1: it more expensive. Victoria's Energy department predicts wholesale energy prices
[15:56] Speaker 1: will be significantly higher than previously expected, in another sign
[16:01] Speaker 1: of upward pressure on power costs in the state. The
[16:05] Speaker 1: new estimates published in the Department of Environment and Energies
[16:07] Speaker 1: Climate Action or DACA for those who care, and it
[16:13] Speaker 1: talks about the megawatt prices, but the bit that really
[16:15] Speaker 1: matters In the article, the department said it's updated its
[16:18] Speaker 1: forecast so it can more closely, so it can accord
[16:22] Speaker 1: more closely with the private sector because the contracts it
[16:25] Speaker 1: would sorry, would be taken over by the State Electric
[16:29] Speaker 1: Electricity Commission, which trigger the need for different methodology. So
[16:35] Speaker 1: former Premier andrews, why do we need the SEC because
[16:37] Speaker 1: we need it's not for profit, it will bring prices down.
[16:41] Speaker 1: What actually happens once the sec SEC is up and
[16:44] Speaker 1: running or power prices are going to go up, aren't
[16:46] Speaker 1: they yet? Victoria will probably turn around and reward them.
[16:50] Speaker 1: Why because of the freaking triangle. So every time they
[16:54] Speaker 1: announce a little way of growing it here, a little
[16:57] Speaker 1: way of growing it there, they locked themselves in. So
[17:00] Speaker 1: no matter what failures, thirty three people died before the
[17:04] Speaker 1: last Victorian state election because the triplo system didn't work.
[17:06] Speaker 1: Guess what's happening just before this system just before this election.
[17:10] Speaker 1: The TRIPLEO system is still stuffed. They haven't been able
[17:13] Speaker 1: to fix it. And when things get tough they start
[17:16] Speaker 1: passing around pieces of paper. Why would anyone re elect
[17:20] Speaker 1: them again? I yelled four years ago, I will yell
[17:23] Speaker 1: again into the wind when it comes to Victoria. But
[17:25] Speaker 1: it's only Victorians will make their choice. And how can
[17:28] Speaker 1: anyone be happy with the bed they're lying in when
[17:31] Speaker 1: you are being lied to by the very people who
[17:33] Speaker 1: are tucking the inn at night?
[17:35] Speaker 3: Fed?
[17:37] Speaker 1: Now another one I want to roll here tonight. Let's
[17:39] Speaker 1: keep going the social media bean which is on its way.
[17:43] Speaker 1: It'll be there at the start of December. And yes,
[17:45] Speaker 1: lots of international countries are looking to see how we
[17:47] Speaker 1: can do it. We're kind of going to be this
[17:49] Speaker 1: test case. And yes it is something that remembers that's right.
[17:51] Speaker 1: Peter Dutton evil Peter Dutton first came up with then
[17:55] Speaker 1: flogged by the government, and the government will now of
[17:57] Speaker 1: course cover itself in gold. As this thing moves around,
[17:59] Speaker 1: we learned that plenty of other social media platforms or
[18:03] Speaker 1: ones that work like social media will be added to
[18:06] Speaker 1: the list. Not a huge amount of notice for them,
[18:08] Speaker 1: but again, who cares it's the big steamroller of government,
[18:11] Speaker 1: meaning that these platforms will have to play by the
[18:13] Speaker 1: same rules as Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.
[18:19] Speaker 5: Reddit and live streaming platform Kick are among the latest
[18:22] Speaker 5: apps added to Australia's world first social media ban.
[18:26] Speaker 8: The popular online messaging board Reddits will be included in
[18:29] Speaker 8: Australia's social media ban for under sixteens. Reddit and Kick
[18:33] Speaker 8: will both be.
[18:34] Speaker 3: Included in the list of social media platforms to be banned.
[18:40] Speaker 1: Now, I get it, most of you have either very
[18:42] Speaker 1: little use for those platforms or maybe this is the
[18:45] Speaker 1: first time that you're hearing about them, but for obvious reasons,
[18:47] Speaker 1: lots of young people lots of different ways to express
[18:49] Speaker 1: themselves on the internet. Remember, the whole point and purpose
[18:52] Speaker 1: of this is to give kids back their youth, to
[18:55] Speaker 1: make sure that the places that they do operate in
[18:58] Speaker 1: are safe and the ones that can't be fully secured
[19:01] Speaker 1: they are effectively fenced out of. Well, this is the
[19:05] Speaker 1: system that again is going to get gold medals because
[19:07] Speaker 1: it's put in place by the current government, cheered on
[19:11] Speaker 1: by the media who see an opposition that is going
[19:15] Speaker 1: to slowly but surely eat itself alive. Meaning were better
[19:17] Speaker 1: not upset the apple cart, but it's not rolling out perfectly.
[19:22] Speaker 1: In fact, this is what the communications spokesperson for the
[19:26] Speaker 1: opposition has had to say today. You probably didn't see
[19:29] Speaker 1: it because they don't even bother running them anymore.
[19:32] Speaker 8: I have a lot of issues with the.
[19:36] Speaker 5: Outcome of the ban and whether it's going to do
[19:40] Speaker 5: what it is intended to do in protecting Australian children.
[19:43] Speaker 5: Tend to December. It's only a couple of weeks out.
[19:45] Speaker 5: There seems to be a whole lot of ends going
[19:48] Speaker 5: on in the community as well, and whether the advertising
[19:52] Speaker 5: campaign that the government's put forward is even going to work.
[19:55] Speaker 5: Families don't really know it's coming. Schools don't know, kids
[19:58] Speaker 5: don't know.
[20:00] Speaker 1: All of this ship heard. But let me get to
[20:02] Speaker 1: the big bit that happened today and a smart cookie
[20:04] Speaker 1: who worked out a potential problem could be even bigger
[20:07] Speaker 1: than the dangers that currently exist for our young when
[20:10] Speaker 1: it comes to stuff they do on the internet. All
[20:13] Speaker 1: right now, today the e Safety Commissioner was there with
[20:17] Speaker 1: of course the free Bit Minister for Freebies and Communication.
[20:23] Speaker 1: We'll check her declarations at the end of the year.
[20:27] Speaker 1: And it has been exposed that for all of the
[20:30] Speaker 1: tough talk about, you know, giving kids back their youth
[20:32] Speaker 1: all the rest of it. There is a big problem
[20:34] Speaker 1: that's not really being dealt with at all, which is gaming. Now,
[20:39] Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and be one of
[20:40] Speaker 1: those people's go what video games are ruining the world?
[20:43] Speaker 1: People have been saying that since Mario is an eight
[20:45] Speaker 1: bit leisure suit, Larry remember was going to end the world?
[20:51] Speaker 1: Where in the world is come in San Diego. Well,
[20:55] Speaker 1: the problem with technology these days and many of the
[20:58] Speaker 1: gaming is that if you are sitting on a particular
[21:01] Speaker 1: games console, if I mention them, I will be off
[21:03] Speaker 1: to the lawyers. So I will not. But for many
[21:06] Speaker 1: they are online, they can pass messages, they sometimes have
[21:09] Speaker 1: open messages meeting random members of the internet, including the
[21:13] Speaker 1: worst possible people on the Internet, are able to communicate
[21:16] Speaker 1: with them, and none of this seems to be affected
[21:18] Speaker 1: by the changes that are coming. Put simply, they won't
[21:21] Speaker 1: be able to have a account to some things, but
[21:24] Speaker 1: they will be able to have an account to other
[21:26] Speaker 1: things that work basically exactly the same as social media.
[21:30] Speaker 1: Well done to those who pointed this out today, saying
[21:33] Speaker 1: the line between gaming and socializing has disappeared years ago
[21:37] Speaker 1: David Swan writing in The Nine Press Today, kids don't
[21:41] Speaker 1: legally separate their Roadblocks chats from their Instagram or Twitch streams. Roadblocks, Discord,
[21:48] Speaker 1: and Twitch have virtually identical social features to platforms that
[21:51] Speaker 1: are being banned. Roadblocks offers direct messaging, friend networks, group spaces,
[21:57] Speaker 1: user generated content sharing, and customizable profiles exactly like Instagram
[22:03] Speaker 1: and Facebook. The platforms Australia exempted aren't hypothetical risks. Since
[22:10] Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty four people have been arrested in the
[22:13] Speaker 1: United States for abducted or sexually abusing children being groomed
[22:17] Speaker 1: on Yep, you guessed that the platform that is not
[22:20] Speaker 1: affected by this legislation. In twenty twenty three alone, Roadblocks
[22:25] Speaker 1: reported thirteen thousand instances of child exploitation to authorities. The
[22:32] Speaker 1: AFP Commissioner specifically warned of things called crime influences are
[22:38] Speaker 1: using Roadblocks to target vulnerable girls, while reporting by their
[22:42] Speaker 1: newspaper has revealed children exposed to sexually abusive material and
[22:49] Speaker 1: extremist content on the platform. When asked about all of
[22:53] Speaker 1: this today, try and work out this gobbledybook from the
[22:55] Speaker 1: people that are in charge of this band. Why is
[22:57] Speaker 1: one in Why is one out? Why are you able
[23:00] Speaker 1: to get to your kids one way but you can't
[23:02] Speaker 1: get to them another? Please explain, genius.
[23:07] Speaker 9: We also have to think about would kids who are
[23:10] Speaker 9: using roeblocks today they use the chat functionality and messaging
[23:14] Speaker 9: so that they can online gameplay if the online gameplay
[23:18] Speaker 9: is the significant or sol purpose. If that were taken away,
[23:21] Speaker 9: would the kids still use that messaging functionality to chat?
[23:25] Speaker 9: Probably not, So that is That's just to give you
[23:28] Speaker 9: some insight in terms of how much rigor that was
[23:31] Speaker 9: done with each of the assessments.
[23:35] Speaker 1: Garbage Beny and most of the people asking questions that
[23:38] Speaker 1: I use these platforms, let alone the conversations about the
[23:41] Speaker 1: bigger international console games and the capacity to sit there
[23:45] Speaker 1: with a headset on talking to some creep on the
[23:47] Speaker 1: other side of the world. We rather going to be
[23:49] Speaker 1: serious about it, or we're not.
[23:52] Speaker 3: Now.
[23:52] Speaker 1: I know there are plenty of people who get frustrated
[23:54] Speaker 1: about the implementation of this, the digital idea and all
[23:56] Speaker 1: the rest. But if this thing is actually about protecting kids,
[23:59] Speaker 1: let's go to the whole hole. Why do we have
[24:01] Speaker 1: a system which has such an obvious loophole? Well done
[24:04] Speaker 1: to everyone who pointed it out today. Of course, sh
[24:08] Speaker 1: the guy on Sky News is talking about it, so
[24:10] Speaker 1: therefore we must ignore it. Let's tell you who doesn't.
[24:14] Speaker 1: It's fellow parents because they see all of these shutdowns
[24:18] Speaker 1: here and largely cool. But why not a shutdown here?
[24:23] Speaker 1: And by the way, the E Safety Commissioner might want
[24:25] Speaker 1: to read one of the reports that a very own
[24:28] Speaker 1: organization has put out about gaming. In one of the
[24:34] Speaker 1: sections here, in the past year, two in five young gamers,
[24:38] Speaker 1: forty percent of children aged between eight and twelve, forty
[24:41] Speaker 1: four percent of teens thirteen to seventeen had a negative
[24:44] Speaker 1: experience while gaming. This, among other things, are about being
[24:48] Speaker 1: asked to send nudes or sexual information. Another one reads
[24:53] Speaker 1: your own report E Safety Commissioner. Two in three sixty
[24:58] Speaker 1: five percent of young gamers who received or were asked
[25:03] Speaker 1: to send nude images or sexual information. If they can't
[25:07] Speaker 1: get to you via Instagram, they might be able to
[25:09] Speaker 1: get to you through the headsite while you're playing insert
[25:12] Speaker 1: game that if I mentioned, lawyers would get involved. Why
[25:16] Speaker 1: is this not a hole that needs to be plugged?
[25:19] Speaker 1: But of course we're mentioning it. I'm not touching. I'm
[25:24] Speaker 1: pissed off because our joint is changing for the worse
[25:27] Speaker 1: and some of the most arrogant people who have ever
[25:29] Speaker 1: sat on the government benches are at the maximum of
[25:32] Speaker 1: their power and they see themselves as being beyond challenge.
[25:38] Speaker 1: Something we'll talk about next here on Pulmurray Live as
[25:40] Speaker 1: we start to break down the ideas again around free
[25:43] Speaker 1: power and a whole lot more. Send me an email
[25:45] Speaker 1: Poultsgoynews dot com dot are you plenty more to discuss here,
[25:48] Speaker 1: oh Port Murray Life. Thanks for watching. Don'g only where
[25:50] Speaker 1: debate next Meghan Kelly before we're done. Well, it is
[25:58] Speaker 1: still very exciting because, as always the carry out a
[26:00] Speaker 1: champion of Wednesday Night is none other than the wonderful, beautiful,
[26:02] Speaker 1: the amazing, the spectacular Lucy's Elich. But normally this is
[26:06] Speaker 1: the time where I turn around and say that, you know,
[26:08] Speaker 1: the bloke has come in second, the guy who almost
[26:10] Speaker 1: gets there but he doesn't get there. But now of
[26:12] Speaker 1: course he's a board member of Foxto emeritus, great man
[26:16] Speaker 1: Profess Sir Gret the red carpet Sir to one of
[26:21] Speaker 1: my new bosses's Stephen Conroy. Love me to see you mate,
[26:24] Speaker 1: how I geez you looking good to night? Made look
[26:29] Speaker 1: a look at the cut.
[26:30] Speaker 2: Of his Stephen. I agree with.
[26:32] Speaker 1: Everything everything boring TV. Now won't it be all right? Well,
[26:39] Speaker 1: I get congratulations on the appointment made former Communications ministry
[26:42] Speaker 1: makes absolute middlestone and obvious sense. Now let's get to
[26:46] Speaker 1: a couple of things here. Now I could gladly go
[26:48] Speaker 1: back and just relitigate where I've been for the past
[26:50] Speaker 1: thirty minutes about how you spend a billion dollars about
[26:54] Speaker 1: some matters, including that food report. But let's get to
[26:57] Speaker 1: an adult conversation about the opposition the money. Reality is,
[27:01] Speaker 1: they started the year and remember those Poles at the
[27:03] Speaker 1: start of the year, Remember the Ugov poll at the
[27:06] Speaker 1: start of the year that said that they were going
[27:07] Speaker 1: to get seventy so on their way to eighty seats. Then,
[27:11] Speaker 1: of course there was among other things, including many stuff
[27:14] Speaker 1: ups by the people that are cold shiving the current
[27:18] Speaker 1: leadership when it comes to everything from work from home
[27:20] Speaker 1: and tax decisions and all the rest of it. And
[27:23] Speaker 1: now they are where they are, where they're almost in
[27:25] Speaker 1: a record position in a minority in the Parliament. They've
[27:28] Speaker 1: got the Nats who of course are just ignoring them
[27:30] Speaker 1: now in terms of whether it's the tail that wags
[27:33] Speaker 1: the dog or the dog that wags the tail. And
[27:36] Speaker 1: I stand by what I've said all the way through
[27:38] Speaker 1: here Stephen Conroy, which is I always think that somebody
[27:41] Speaker 1: deserves a chance to be leader, especially after a devastating loss.
[27:45] Speaker 1: I don't think you need to make that choice within months.
[27:48] Speaker 1: It is something that more or less would happen within
[27:50] Speaker 1: a couple of years. So I want to try to
[27:53] Speaker 1: again take this from a slightly different way. And I
[27:55] Speaker 1: don't know how much the labor man wants to hand
[27:58] Speaker 1: out any free advice, but what is the free advice
[28:01] Speaker 1: for how they begin to dig themselves out of where
[28:04] Speaker 1: they are?
[28:07] Speaker 10: Well? Look, I mean, Susan Lay's in a terrible position
[28:11] Speaker 10: at the moment. She's got insurgents behind her, She's got
[28:15] Speaker 10: the National Party effectively trying to split the coalition again
[28:20] Speaker 10: by deciding saying we'll work over to find a solution,
[28:24] Speaker 10: then just deciding. Because Little Prad is desperately trying to
[28:28] Speaker 10: protect his leadership from Barnaby Joyce and Matt Cannaban, so
[28:32] Speaker 10: he's adopted their position on climate even though they've been
[28:35] Speaker 10: signed up for years to.
[28:36] Speaker 1: Support net zero.
[28:38] Speaker 10: Way twenty fifty, Susan lays now looking you having to
[28:41] Speaker 10: find a way to toss it to try and appease
[28:44] Speaker 10: the people attacking her. They're not going to stop. I've
[28:49] Speaker 10: sat in rooms. I've witnessed this firsthand. You don't accidentally
[28:54] Speaker 10: bump into each other for a quick catch up for
[29:00] Speaker 10: or Canberra.
[29:01] Speaker 1: Well, let's all just accidentally turn up at the same
[29:03] Speaker 1: joint at seven.
[29:04] Speaker 8: That's not accidental. I think that's a beat up. Come on,
[29:09] Speaker 8: that's a beat up set.
[29:10] Speaker 1: Well, that's the two blocks that are the alternatives trying
[29:12] Speaker 1: to dive up their.
[29:13] Speaker 8: Colleagues, and they're also Conservatives.
[29:16] Speaker 2: I don't think that's that unusual. I really don't. I
[29:19] Speaker 2: think that's a bit of.
[29:20] Speaker 1: A beat up. We have quiet places you can hang
[29:22] Speaker 1: out around in Canberra. That photo being taken.
[29:25] Speaker 8: Now, I lived in Canberra and I also worked in
[29:27] Speaker 8: the public service right of the Attorney General's Department.
[29:29] Speaker 2: It was so common to see so.
[29:31] Speaker 8: Many of our politicians and including our public servants congregating
[29:35] Speaker 8: in the same areas. Stephen, you also knew that. I
[29:38] Speaker 8: think that that's an absolute other beat up set.
[29:40] Speaker 1: I reckon every leadership check Stephen had with in the quietest,
[29:43] Speaker 1: darkest corner of the quietest darkest cupboard in the quietest
[29:47] Speaker 1: darkest part of the Parliament, or a hotel.
[29:49] Speaker 8: Not far from They don't need to send a signal
[29:52] Speaker 8: to Susan Lee that there is a potential coup on
[29:54] Speaker 8: the horizon, or that there are factional disagreements within this party.
[29:58] Speaker 8: The news poll that came out by The Australian earlier
[30:01] Speaker 8: this week told her that themselves twenty four percent for
[30:05] Speaker 8: the primary vote, and she's also minus thirty three percent.
[30:09] Speaker 2: In the popular vote. We know that there's fights, So
[30:11] Speaker 2: what's your fractional fighting?
[30:14] Speaker 8: Start developing policies and coming out and sticking to them
[30:17] Speaker 8: and showing conviction within these policies, Paul. We know that
[30:21] Speaker 8: that's what wins you elections. Right, Have a look around
[30:25] Speaker 8: the world what we're seeing this shift towards conservatism as well, in.
[30:28] Speaker 2: Particular, look at what's happened in Italy in.
[30:32] Speaker 6: Time.
[30:33] Speaker 8: Yeah today, Yes, ignoring what's happening in New York, but
[30:37] Speaker 8: predominantly and especially women right that are being elected. Okay,
[30:40] Speaker 8: so in Japan history was created. But I don't want
[30:43] Speaker 8: to really look at the gender. I want to look
[30:45] Speaker 8: at what got her elected, and it was her politics,
[30:48] Speaker 8: her policies, her positions. That's what needs to be explored
[30:51] Speaker 8: more greatly here. I think the Liberal Party did put
[30:53] Speaker 8: her in that position because they wanted to distance themselves
[30:57] Speaker 8: from that fear of them having a problem with women
[30:59] Speaker 8: and being party of women haters. But ultimately, at this point, now,
[31:04] Speaker 8: what has she delivered that we've been able to feast
[31:07] Speaker 8: over tangibly from a policy perspective.
[31:10] Speaker 2: Fine, you've been on this listening tour.
[31:11] Speaker 8: You've said even that it may even take a few
[31:13] Speaker 8: more months, and Danteene has defended that to come out
[31:16] Speaker 8: with policy with respect to energy. But time is running
[31:19] Speaker 8: out and people are sick of it, and no wonder
[31:22] Speaker 8: there's been a surge in popularity for one nation, getting
[31:25] Speaker 8: up to fifteen percent. Now that's not a big disparity
[31:27] Speaker 8: in terms of the primary vote, So you need to
[31:30] Speaker 8: ask yourself why why is one nation doing well? Pauline
[31:33] Speaker 8: is very strong on immigration and on issues that matter
[31:36] Speaker 8: to the people of this nation.
[31:38] Speaker 1: I agree. But the heartbreaking reality for those of us
[31:42] Speaker 1: who would like it to be different. And I said
[31:44] Speaker 1: this on Sunday night, which is you know, Sunday night
[31:46] Speaker 1: best time to be honest about your footy team because
[31:50] Speaker 1: the result is what the result is, right. The news
[31:52] Speaker 1: poll also showed that since the last federal election, the
[31:56] Speaker 1: total left wing pile has gone up by two points
[32:00] Speaker 1: in the Labor Party has gone up by two points
[32:02] Speaker 1: two party before the Liberal Party's gone down by two points.
[32:05] Speaker 1: So even with the churn in and around the one
[32:07] Speaker 1: nation and presumably the preferences that go back, that's that's
[32:11] Speaker 1: part of what I think is really starting to become
[32:13] Speaker 1: their head fake here, Stephen, where I think that the
[32:16] Speaker 1: expectations needed to be set a lot earlier and a
[32:19] Speaker 1: lot harder about what the first year of opposition is now.
[32:22] Speaker 1: I remember your mate Bill Shorten after the situation in
[32:26] Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, it was what was it one year to
[32:29] Speaker 1: deal with the party and the party structures, one year
[32:32] Speaker 1: on the policy and then one year on the politics.
[32:34] Speaker 1: That was an election. Now obviously it didn't work twice around.
[32:38] Speaker 1: But the reality is is that, I mean, in terms
[32:40] Speaker 1: of a machine, we know how screwed the Libs are
[32:42] Speaker 1: at the moment. They can't they couldn't find candidates for
[32:46] Speaker 1: local or they couldn't do the paperwork for local elections
[32:49] Speaker 1: in New South Wales. They didn't know they missed the
[32:51] Speaker 1: deadline on the redistributions in Victoria. We certainly know the
[32:56] Speaker 1: performance in Western Australia and South Australia looks like they're
[32:59] Speaker 1: headed towards a tin can as well. The only place
[33:02] Speaker 1: is that currently you'd be looking for inspiration is what's
[33:04] Speaker 1: going on in Queensland and how they thump them in
[33:07] Speaker 1: the Northern territory. But that's the thing, Stephen, when we
[33:09] Speaker 1: talk about a depressed political side, and I do not
[33:13] Speaker 1: like saying this, and I know the people sitting in
[33:15] Speaker 1: the odd labor office that just hate watching but are
[33:17] Speaker 1: enjoying this even more right now. But sometimes you've got
[33:20] Speaker 1: to look at the scoreboard. And also it's not just
[33:23] Speaker 1: about the captain. It's not just about the coach. Some
[33:25] Speaker 1: of the back room is pretty garbage too.
[33:27] Speaker 10: At the moment, Paul, you're dead right, and you think.
[33:32] Speaker 1: You talk about what did board member your dad? Right?
[33:41] Speaker 10: You can't. If Susan I had marched out and sort
[33:46] Speaker 10: of started announcing policies, people be complaining she didn't consult.
[33:50] Speaker 10: So she tries to pull everyone together, draw them down
[33:52] Speaker 10: a path, and they're saying you're taking too long to
[33:55] Speaker 10: developtas calls. We're not even exactly. So she is in
[34:00] Speaker 10: a situation where people want to destroy her, and it
[34:04] Speaker 10: doesn't matter which way she jumps, they will find this
[34:07] Speaker 10: level of criticism for this approach or this level of position.
[34:12] Speaker 10: You're right, she needed to a little earlier ago. Here's
[34:16] Speaker 10: how we're going to work or develop policies over the
[34:19] Speaker 10: next twelve eighteen months to campaign on. No one can
[34:23] Speaker 10: seriously say you can develop a policy around pit climate
[34:28] Speaker 10: or tax in five months, and it way nonsense. Yes,
[34:34] Speaker 10: you actually have to consult externally, not just that among
[34:38] Speaker 10: whether Barnaby is quitting the party or not driving a
[34:41] Speaker 10: little proud driving suasan Lay. I mean seriously, if you
[34:45] Speaker 10: want serious, good policy, you've actually got to do serious
[34:50] Speaker 10: hard work, and you can't do that in three months
[34:54] Speaker 10: or five months or seven months. This idea that she's
[34:57] Speaker 10: taking too long, this is just sticking an iph in.
[35:01] Speaker 10: And if she, as I said, if she made announcements
[35:04] Speaker 10: after consulting your half a dozen shadow ministers, it'll be
[35:07] Speaker 10: Captain's picks and they disown her as well. She is
[35:10] Speaker 10: caught where people are trying to kill her no matter
[35:14] Speaker 10: what she does in either direction.
[35:16] Speaker 1: Loos I want to jump away from politics because I
[35:19] Speaker 1: have spent too much time chewing the scenery this evening
[35:23] Speaker 1: myself on matters political. So something kind of political, just
[35:27] Speaker 1: really that report? Really, nois every time we talk about
[35:30] Speaker 1: being a compassionate country, but then stuff like this comes out,
[35:33] Speaker 1: it just doesn't move the need or nothing. There'll be
[35:35] Speaker 1: nothing about this on breakfast television tomorrow, you know, there'll
[35:38] Speaker 1: just be no big chats, no four corners report about this.
[35:41] Speaker 1: It'll all just get flushed and then we'll find out
[35:43] Speaker 1: some sort of profile about the evil people donating to
[35:46] Speaker 1: the liberal you know, of course, little frustrated with the
[35:49] Speaker 1: game right now, so every right to me, the AFL
[35:52] Speaker 1: is being accused by the Race Discrimination Commissioner about not
[35:54] Speaker 1: doing enough when it comes to racism. Are you kidding me?
[35:58] Speaker 1: This is a sport that has turned itself in so
[36:00] Speaker 1: out on every form of wokedom or dabbing somebody in.
[36:04] Speaker 1: You know, the bloke who lost his chance to play
[36:06] Speaker 1: finals because somebody on the other side of the room
[36:09] Speaker 1: heard something that was that he said to somebody else.
[36:13] Speaker 1: How can they not be woke enough? Where is the
[36:14] Speaker 1: hole in how they're dealing with racism?
[36:16] Speaker 8: They are beyond woke at every turn. Whenever there has
[36:20] Speaker 8: been a major incident, particularly with respect to racism, the
[36:22] Speaker 8: AFL have come out on the front foot and dealt
[36:25] Speaker 8: with this as best as they possibly can as a sport.
[36:28] Speaker 8: The analogy that I want to use is this is
[36:30] Speaker 8: very relevant, I feel because particularly when it comes to racism,
[36:33] Speaker 8: and by virtue of the Race Discrimination Commissioner's position, he.
[36:37] Speaker 2: Has to either invent rate.
[36:39] Speaker 1: A day five.
[36:43] Speaker 5: Where are you are you there?
[36:45] Speaker 2: There has to be something.
[36:47] Speaker 8: For him to justify his job with of that, we
[36:49] Speaker 8: know that there is no doubt. But when somebody robs
[36:52] Speaker 8: a bank, do we blame the robber or the bank?
[36:55] Speaker 1: Good point?
[36:55] Speaker 8: And it's the same instance when it comes to racism, Right,
[36:58] Speaker 8: do they have this plague of racism that's occurring within
[37:02] Speaker 8: their sport. We have, in fact had the same conversations
[37:04] Speaker 8: when it comes to football aka soccer right and globally,
[37:07] Speaker 8: particularly in Italy and in the UK, they have dealt
[37:10] Speaker 8: with so many issues concerning racism.
[37:13] Speaker 2: You will never eradicate it.
[37:15] Speaker 8: I think that's something that needs to be made abundantly
[37:17] Speaker 8: to everybody.
[37:18] Speaker 2: You're not going to eradicate it.
[37:20] Speaker 8: And this idea that it only occurs with whites against
[37:22] Speaker 8: blacks is also a false.
[37:24] Speaker 2: Narrative that we need to put to bed as well.
[37:26] Speaker 8: We're not going to be eradicated, but what we can
[37:28] Speaker 8: do is call out the behavior.
[37:29] Speaker 2: And we cannot make it.
[37:30] Speaker 8: The responsibility of sport to eradicate racism from society because
[37:36] Speaker 8: you are looking at the surface level issue and not
[37:40] Speaker 8: looking at the root cause of it. Right, how these
[37:43] Speaker 8: children being raised, what they're being taught in the home.
[37:45] Speaker 8: It is not the AFL's responsibility to solve it, but
[37:48] Speaker 8: to call it out, and they have done that in abundance.
[37:51] Speaker 1: Enough is enough, But hallelujah right in that all of
[37:54] Speaker 1: the systems are in place where what might have been
[37:58] Speaker 1: institutionally okay thirty years ago, well and truly not even
[38:01] Speaker 1: coppable now. Right, if somebody hears or interprets the wrong
[38:05] Speaker 1: thing even happening inside the crowd, they'll ban people.
[38:08] Speaker 8: They even have technology now that is actually detecting it
[38:12] Speaker 8: on social media channels, etc.
[38:13] Speaker 1: So look, no doubt we'll turn up as the example
[38:16] Speaker 1: of the evil people talking against this idea. But again
[38:19] Speaker 1: there's a common sense, which is all of us are
[38:20] Speaker 1: against it. All of us are happy with the systems
[38:23] Speaker 1: currently in place to get on top of it. But
[38:25] Speaker 1: the idea this some giant systemic problem. I don't think so.
[38:28] Speaker 1: Now I've got only about a minute to do this.
[38:30] Speaker 1: But a quick little observation about the American elections from
[38:33] Speaker 1: both of you here, right, which is the single most
[38:36] Speaker 1: important thing that happened in the elections today was not Mandani,
[38:40] Speaker 1: as exciting as that is, was not about Senate races.
[38:43] Speaker 1: It actually was there was a vote in California and
[38:46] Speaker 1: essentially they have like a referendum to be able to
[38:49] Speaker 1: vote on things like being able to redraw the maps,
[38:52] Speaker 1: to have the number of Republicans that would be elected
[38:55] Speaker 1: at the next election in terms of the House of Representatives.
[39:00] Speaker 1: Why does that matter? Because if more Democrats come from California,
[39:03] Speaker 1: then the current majority of one for the Republicans is
[39:06] Speaker 1: blown away. What does that mean that you can't get
[39:09] Speaker 1: a bill passed and you can start the approach, impeachment proceedings,
[39:14] Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Am I right or wrong? Stephen?
[39:16] Speaker 1: That that is the single biggest thing that happened today
[39:19] Speaker 1: in America, the beginning of a big handbreak on Trump.
[39:24] Speaker 10: Look, I think that was a big win for the Democrats.
[39:27] Speaker 10: I mean it was in response to Trump ordering Texas
[39:31] Speaker 10: and two other states to registrict themselves. So I think
[39:36] Speaker 10: that's actually my understanding. In terms of the other three states.
[39:39] Speaker 10: All that does is it brings it back down to
[39:42] Speaker 10: four or five. South California brought it, brings it back.
[39:47] Speaker 10: I'm actually more interested in Cartagia, Paul in the Georgia
[39:50] Speaker 10: two very insignificant, you know, but statewide Georgia votes for
[39:57] Speaker 10: two positions, in relatively in significant positions. The Democrats won
[40:02] Speaker 10: them both. So that's the first time they've won, other
[40:06] Speaker 10: than at the Senate level, any position in Georgia in
[40:09] Speaker 10: a statewide vote in a very long time. So I
[40:13] Speaker 10: think Georgia is one to keep watching.
[40:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, important for everyone to know. Of course, remember Georgia
[40:17] Speaker 1: one of the swing states. When it went with Biden,
[40:20] Speaker 1: he gets up. When it went with Trump, he gets
[40:22] Speaker 1: up in both ways. And you're planning a trip to
[40:25] Speaker 1: New York City between now in January the first when
[40:27] Speaker 1: Mendani takes over Louise. Now you have a little window.
[40:31] Speaker 1: Oh good luck, Hi, big city.
[40:33] Speaker 8: I am saying a prayer for all of you in NYC, baby,
[40:37] Speaker 8: And any attempt for me to get there has been quashed.
[40:39] Speaker 8: Because I'm not going to make it there before Christmas.
[40:42] Speaker 8: And I say God speed to you all, God bless
[40:44] Speaker 8: Please replay this.
[40:45] Speaker 2: Tape in a few years when we tell you sucked in.
[40:48] Speaker 2: We were right and you were wrong, So you're getting
[40:50] Speaker 2: four years.
[40:51] Speaker 1: All right, Thank you guys, do appreciate it. Love you all. Right.
[40:53] Speaker 1: Standing by is Meghan Kelly. Let's have a chat to
[40:55] Speaker 1: her in the US next where we're get into some
[40:57] Speaker 1: weird fun chat, especially about person we all know everyone
[41:02] Speaker 1: hates mornessing, our favorite time of the week to talk
[41:08] Speaker 1: to our favorite person in the world, the one, the only,
[41:10] Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly. I wanted to reflect on something, just to
[41:13] Speaker 1: put a smile on your face and mind and many
[41:16] Speaker 1: people watching. Can you believe it's a year since that
[41:19] Speaker 1: incredible night, a year since the doubts that maybees, the
[41:24] Speaker 1: concern about the fork in the road that America took,
[41:28] Speaker 1: and the giant exhale of breath that I still feel
[41:32] Speaker 1: we are involved in. Twelve months after that moment, the
[41:36] Speaker 1: country has changed demonstrably and for the better as a
[41:40] Speaker 1: result of what it did twelve months ago.
[41:43] Speaker 2: Right, m hmm, totally.
[41:45] Speaker 3: I don't know why my mind went here. Paul not
[41:47] Speaker 3: to bring the room down. But I just thought of
[41:49] Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk as soon as you said it, because he
[41:51] Speaker 3: was so happy on that election night, and his reaction
[41:55] Speaker 3: was so genuine that it went totally viral, you know,
[41:58] Speaker 3: just tears in his eyes to God, but on the
[42:01] Speaker 3: forty seven hat. And you know, if only he had known,
[42:05] Speaker 3: you know that before we got to the twelve month mark,
[42:08] Speaker 3: some lunatic would take his life. It's awful, but so
[42:11] Speaker 3: much has happened in the past twelve months. I do
[42:14] Speaker 3: feel like our country received That's how it feels that
[42:16] Speaker 3: it was sived.
[42:17] Speaker 1: Let's also talk he too, about the people who can't
[42:20] Speaker 1: let last year go? Can you believe George Clooney is
[42:24] Speaker 1: still talking about writing the op ed about Harris versus Bide, Like,
[42:31] Speaker 1: who cares? Let's eat go? He overplayed his hand. He
[42:37] Speaker 1: thinks he is more important than he is, and we
[42:39] Speaker 1: know he's, you know, pumping up some garbage movie to
[42:43] Speaker 1: maybe make his way to the Oscars, but no one cares.
[42:47] Speaker 11: I think the mistake with it being commonly is that
[42:50] Speaker 11: she had to run against her own record, and it's
[42:52] Speaker 11: very hard to do if the point of running is
[42:57] Speaker 11: to say I'm not that person. You know, it's hard
[42:59] Speaker 11: to do so she was given a very tough task.
[43:02] Speaker 11: I think it was a mistake, quite honestly.
[43:03] Speaker 1: But we are where we are.
[43:06] Speaker 3: He's obsessed with his moment of glory. He sees himself
[43:10] Speaker 3: as so brave, just so amazing, Like you and I
[43:13] Speaker 3: both know actually brave people. You know, guys who fought
[43:17] Speaker 3: in these wars, heroes who come back having taken multiple
[43:20] Speaker 3: bullets and saved lives. I know several Medal of Honor recipients.
[43:24] Speaker 3: They don't talk about their courage or their big moments.
[43:30] Speaker 3: They'll do it maybe on a special occasion, like to
[43:33] Speaker 3: honor the military or get people interested in the military,
[43:36] Speaker 3: but never to honor themselves. Never only George Clooney keeps
[43:42] Speaker 3: doing this over his letter to the editor.
[43:47] Speaker 1: No, I mean he.
[43:49] Speaker 3: Truly thinks he's a Navy seal. He's acting like he's
[43:52] Speaker 3: formed the beach at Normandy. It's like you did nothing
[43:56] Speaker 3: only when forced to admit that you had seen what
[43:59] Speaker 3: we all are.
[44:00] Speaker 1: At that debate.
[44:01] Speaker 3: But you had seen it a month earlier. Did you
[44:03] Speaker 3: write that piece? You you knew, you keptured a secret,
[44:08] Speaker 3: you were part of the cover up, and then you
[44:10] Speaker 3: wrote the op ed when you realized we all knew,
[44:13] Speaker 3: and also more importantly that you were going to lose
[44:17] Speaker 3: the presidency, your team.
[44:19] Speaker 1: Said writing a letter to the editor. Worst story at
[44:22] Speaker 1: bad Camp about band camp goes to George Bloody forever
[44:27] Speaker 1: on that one. All right, last one here. Now, obviously
[44:30] Speaker 1: we all know how the world works, where there's what
[44:32] Speaker 1: we do in front of a camera for work, and
[44:34] Speaker 1: then there's sometimes that stuff that you know for social media,
[44:37] Speaker 1: you'll do in front of a camera because it's about
[44:39] Speaker 1: your life behind the same stuff, Right, did you say
[44:42] Speaker 1: the Megan Markele thing where she filmed herself in black
[44:46] Speaker 1: and white in her own theater watching the LA Dodgers.
[44:50] Speaker 1: My favorite part of this is that the husband is
[44:54] Speaker 1: so bored and when your team wins at the end
[44:59] Speaker 1: of a seven like that would be a moment to
[45:02] Speaker 1: go hey. Instead, he's so bored because he knows they're
[45:06] Speaker 1: not watching it to watch the game. They're watching it
[45:09] Speaker 1: so people can watch them watching the game.
[45:12] Speaker 3: And he's like, oh my god, what did I marry?
[45:16] Speaker 3: There's no way Kate is doing this to William, not
[45:21] Speaker 3: a chance. She's probably like, that's so great. They won,
[45:25] Speaker 3: and then they move on and Megan Markle has no
[45:28] Speaker 3: affinity for the LA Dodgers.
[45:29] Speaker 2: And everybody knows this.
[45:30] Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, she's There are some women who
[45:32] Speaker 3: are super into sports, you know how. We know because
[45:34] Speaker 3: they constantly post pictures of themselves wearing a teen gear.
[45:38] Speaker 3: They are updating us on the scores every weekend.
[45:40] Speaker 1: I know these women, right.
[45:42] Speaker 3: I can't relate to them at all because I'm not
[45:43] Speaker 3: into sports, but I find them fun and amusing, and
[45:45] Speaker 3: I follow She's not one of them.
[45:47] Speaker 2: She's not one of them at all.
[45:47] Speaker 3: She never mentions them.
[45:48] Speaker 1: Ever.
[45:49] Speaker 3: She doesn't give two shits about the Dodgers. She just
[45:51] Speaker 3: wants you to think she does because they're relevant and
[45:54] Speaker 3: unlike her, they're winners. I don't know what I heard
[46:09] Speaker 3: in that room, but it was very wrong. Clearly Prince
[46:13] Speaker 3: Harry didn't like it, and it heard it too often
[46:16] Speaker 3: and start acting like twelve year olds, I mean even younger,
[46:20] Speaker 3: you know, maybe four. And so what she had done
[46:23] Speaker 3: was then she said, let's go back. Let's I bet
[46:27] Speaker 3: you our reaction is on video. I bet you, okay,
[46:31] Speaker 3: we might have just been caught. That is the best
[46:33] Speaker 3: case scenario of her best worst is that she set
[46:36] Speaker 3: it up, and she filmed herself and then put it
[46:38] Speaker 3: out there. But best is that she happened to have
[46:40] Speaker 3: been caught overacting in the moment and then said, ah,
[46:45] Speaker 3: find me the tape on the security video, which then
[46:49] Speaker 3: some minion likely had to do, and she rolled it
[46:51] Speaker 3: back and she cut it and she posted and acted
[46:53] Speaker 3: like it was organic because she's desperate for our attention.
[46:58] Speaker 1: Anyone who is quote unquote I'm already in their own
[47:01] Speaker 1: home on the couch on a weekend, he's a little crazy, right,
[47:07] Speaker 1: because normal people, that's the time when, let's be honest.
[47:10] Speaker 1: Sometimes the husband might just be sitting there at his undies.
[47:13] Speaker 1: Sometimes you might be there with the hair up and
[47:15] Speaker 1: the no makeup because guess what, you're living your life.
[47:20] Speaker 3: You're not behaving like that. I'm going to show you something, Paul,
[47:22] Speaker 3: all right, this is love. I have my little headphones
[47:24] Speaker 3: up stand by or R. I'm going to give you
[47:26] Speaker 3: a little short hotel. I'm going to take my micro
[47:27] Speaker 3: my head's up. This is how I look on the weekends.
[47:34] Speaker 3: There it is right, Okay, Mikero bought my headphone back
[47:38] Speaker 3: in my ear. This is my weekend look. And if
[47:43] Speaker 3: you see a picture of me on the way, no,
[47:45] Speaker 3: but no makeup. But if you see a picture of
[47:47] Speaker 3: me on the weekend with anything other than this hair,
[47:50] Speaker 3: it's a lie. It's not really how I spend my weekend.
[47:53] Speaker 3: And I'm at the point where I don't give it
[47:56] Speaker 3: what you think because it's so easy and it's out
[47:59] Speaker 3: of my face. And that's because I'm an honest person
[48:02] Speaker 3: and she's.
[48:05] Speaker 1: She's the best. Now, I will not act at often
[48:08] Speaker 1: how my weekend looks, because it's either footy shorts with
[48:11] Speaker 1: no shirt or I'm the guy on the couch in
[48:13] Speaker 1: the undies. I promise I won't act it out for you. No,
[48:17] Speaker 1: I won't. All right, more than to say here on
[48:18] Speaker 1: put my life, including a bit more wild gear about
[48:22] Speaker 1: an absolute idiot from the Biden era. Hey, I don't
[48:29] Speaker 1: know if you know this, but Joe Biden's press secretary
[48:33] Speaker 1: likes to be identified as black.
[48:36] Speaker 12: Woman, as a person who's also LGBTQ, as a black woman,
[48:40] Speaker 12: as a black woman, I am a black woman, I
[48:43] Speaker 12: am a queer woman, I am an immigrant being a
[48:46] Speaker 12: black woman as a black woman myself, that.
[48:49] Speaker 8: Is the thing that I.
[48:51] Speaker 12: Understood as a black woman's that I meant a lot
[48:54] Speaker 12: to people because of the communities that I represented, and
[48:58] Speaker 12: whether it was women of color, black women, queer community,
[49:01] Speaker 12: LGBTQ communitygrant and as a black woman and I have
[49:06] Speaker 12: my queerness too.
[49:09] Speaker 1: I think the camera can tell. But a legend of
[49:12] Speaker 1: democratic politics is James Carvill his response to these endless revelations.
[49:17] Speaker 1: What they ask you about the book? Okay, that's what
[49:20] Speaker 1: decries you go here about. If she started tagging him now,
[49:23] Speaker 1: she shouldn't answer to add because she's a black, lesbian
[49:26] Speaker 1: female lady. Please do your book tour and then shut
[49:33] Speaker 1: them up. I was worried we didn't blame it, but
[49:36] Speaker 1: we did. He's a light to bde

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