# Paul Murray Live | 12 August

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 12 Aug 2026, 49 min.

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Greens senator urges students to skip school and protest, new figures reveal bleak employment landscape. Plus, Ben Carroll delays controversial legislation until July 2027. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Thank you, Shary, another wonderful program. Seeing again tomorrow night.
[0:10] Speaker 1: Come on into the man cave.
[0:11] Speaker 2: We've got an awful lot to get to tonight. Will
[0:13] Speaker 2: it surprise you that Green Senator Marine Ferouki is out
[0:18] Speaker 2: and about telling the school kids of Australia that tomorrow
[0:22] Speaker 2: the best thing you can do for your country is
[0:24] Speaker 2: not to finish the day at school, but instead is
[0:27] Speaker 2: to join those who are planning to protest against the
[0:31] Speaker 2: great and evil foe that, of course, is Pauline Hansen. Tomorrow,
[0:35] Speaker 2: university students will take time out from arts lectures, and
[0:40] Speaker 2: high school students will take time out potentially for even
[0:42] Speaker 2: the preparation for their own HC or you twelve exams.
[0:47] Speaker 2: And there is a politician who thinks that's a great idea,
[0:51] Speaker 2: the Green Senative and deputy party leader from New South Wales,
[0:55] Speaker 2: cheering them on.
[0:58] Speaker 3: Telling me that the far is on the rise, that
[1:01] Speaker 3: parties like Pauline Hanson's One Nation wanted to roll back
[1:05] Speaker 3: women's rights, workers' rights, environmental protections, that you're sick of
[1:09] Speaker 3: One Nation's racist, sexist, anti worker and devisive politics and
[1:13] Speaker 3: want to join thousands of students on Thursday, thirteenth August
[1:16] Speaker 3: in a protest around the country, and you want my permission,
[1:22] Speaker 3: of course, I hope you've made a big sign.
[1:25] Speaker 4: Have fun.
[1:32] Speaker 2: Do you like the conviction by which he's reading the
[1:34] Speaker 2: permission note in double checking what the talking points were? Now,
[1:38] Speaker 2: of course, remember one of the many people that have
[1:40] Speaker 2: spoken about what they're planning to do tomorrow. And it
[1:43] Speaker 2: is every Australian's democratic right to be able to express
[1:45] Speaker 2: themselves however they wish fine, fair enough, but there has
[1:48] Speaker 2: to actually be a semblance of truth around all of this.
[1:51] Speaker 2: Remember the student leader who was talking to Tom Elliott
[1:54] Speaker 2: on three IW with this fanciful garbage about the threat
[1:58] Speaker 2: to and I quote one dredds of kids at her school.
[2:03] Speaker 5: I think there's absolutely nothing more important that students could
[2:07] Speaker 5: do on Thursday other than come out to the protest.
[2:11] Speaker 5: If Paulin Hanson was Prime Minister, hundreds of my classmates
[2:15] Speaker 5: at my school would be deported. So this is an
[2:18] Speaker 5: issue of prime importance to me. Pauline Hanson is making
[2:22] Speaker 5: politics more fascist right here, right now. We don't have
[2:26] Speaker 5: the time to wait until you know, after exams, to
[2:29] Speaker 5: wait until we've got a degree. If we want to
[2:32] Speaker 5: stop this.
[2:34] Speaker 2: Really, this is the garbage that is being spread from
[2:39] Speaker 2: supposedly the more informed and the better amongst us to
[2:43] Speaker 2: those who may give you get all the information from
[2:45] Speaker 2: their classmates that Pauline Hanson in one nation's position, the
[2:49] Speaker 2: far rights position is for hundreds of school kids in
[2:53] Speaker 2: every single school, in every single suburb, in every single
[2:57] Speaker 2: state in the entire country are a bet to be booted. Now.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Of course, the position of one Nation, the Liberal Party,
[3:04] Speaker 2: and you would hope the federal government is that if
[3:07] Speaker 2: you are in the country illegally, then you don't get
[3:10] Speaker 2: to stay in the country. The only people get to
[3:12] Speaker 2: stay in the country are the people who have the
[3:13] Speaker 2: appropriate visa, the permanent residency or the citizenship that either
[3:17] Speaker 2: comes from birth or you apply for. There would not
[3:22] Speaker 2: be hundreds of kids at any school, let alone at
[3:27] Speaker 2: every school. But of course facts don't matter when you're
[3:31] Speaker 2: on the right side of history. Man, like these ones
[3:35] Speaker 2: on social media, you.
[3:37] Speaker 6: Don't need teachers to tell us you're a racist. Students
[3:40] Speaker 6: in Queensland are going to walk out on this Thursday
[3:42] Speaker 6: to fight against Pauline Hanson.
[3:44] Speaker 2: High School.
[3:44] Speaker 6: Anni Capitalist is going to have a meeting on this
[3:46] Speaker 6: Sunday at twelve o'clock. You hate Pauline Hanson, you have
[3:49] Speaker 6: to be there to learn how to fight her and
[3:51] Speaker 6: her racism.
[3:52] Speaker 1: Are you are high.
[3:53] Speaker 7: School student that hates Pauline Hanson, then you need to
[3:56] Speaker 7: be there at the nationwide student protest against her on
[3:58] Speaker 7: August thirteenth.
[3:59] Speaker 8: Today asking people why they're coming to the National Day
[4:02] Speaker 8: of Actions student work out against Pauline Hanson.
[4:04] Speaker 9: I'm walking out against Pauline Hanson and one nation.
[4:07] Speaker 10: Because she's the biggest islamophobe in Australia.
[4:13] Speaker 2: So look, hundreds thousands, who knows who cares. But again,
[4:17] Speaker 2: if one of the reasons is because you think there's
[4:19] Speaker 2: about to be mass deportations at schools and the university police,
[4:23] Speaker 2: please it's a bit of cosplay going on here. But anyway,
[4:26] Speaker 2: they have every right to do whatever they want to.
[4:28] Speaker 2: But I want to see you how some of the
[4:30] Speaker 2: media who should know better because they have access to
[4:32] Speaker 2: all of the information that I have, that all of
[4:35] Speaker 2: the information that you have, because we've shown you about
[4:38] Speaker 2: some of the central nonsense at the heart of the
[4:41] Speaker 2: supposed urgent reason to take to the streets, We'll have
[4:44] Speaker 2: a look at how Barnaby Joyce has been treated by
[4:47] Speaker 2: the media when he says, look, there's probably a good
[4:50] Speaker 2: chance that socialist teachers are behind all of this. Now
[4:53] Speaker 2: they put socialists with all the sort of punctuation around
[4:57] Speaker 2: it like bs. Not true, he just made it up.
[5:00] Speaker 2: His quote when asked about this is to honestly believe
[5:03] Speaker 2: that three weeks ago those children, of their own volition
[5:06] Speaker 2: were saying I think I'm going to have a political
[5:07] Speaker 2: protest against a political party. No, they just want to
[5:10] Speaker 2: go to school play soccer with their mates. Socialist teachers,
[5:13] Speaker 2: left wing teachers are making their statement and using the
[5:16] Speaker 2: kids as a prop and that is very very wrong.
[5:18] Speaker 2: Of course he's correct, but this concept of socialist teachers,
[5:23] Speaker 2: it's just a right wing fantasy right no self identifying,
[5:30] Speaker 2: as is the left's want on so many issues. Via
[5:33] Speaker 2: the internet socialists in schools where of course, if you
[5:38] Speaker 2: want to click on the link, you can go through
[5:40] Speaker 2: and see the socialists in schools, get involved with the
[5:43] Speaker 2: socialists in schools. They're not hiding. And remember there are
[5:48] Speaker 2: literal teachers who call themselves socialists in schools who will
[5:53] Speaker 2: be running at the Victorian state election. It is not
[5:59] Speaker 2: made up. The punctuation is incorrect socialist teachers. Yeah, they're
[6:07] Speaker 2: there by their own announcement let alone obviously what they
[6:11] Speaker 2: believe to be. Plenty more that won't wear the badge,
[6:14] Speaker 2: won't wear the sticker, but they might fill out the survey,
[6:16] Speaker 2: they might follow them on social media. Again, every person
[6:21] Speaker 2: has a right to political protest. My issue with public
[6:24] Speaker 2: protests like this, about issues like this is that whatever
[6:28] Speaker 2: you believe to be the original reason, the people who
[6:31] Speaker 2: end up out on the fringes of it, the ones
[6:32] Speaker 2: who will have the nastiest signs, say the silliest chance,
[6:36] Speaker 2: do the dumbest things, Although they're going to be the
[6:38] Speaker 2: people who everyone focuses on. And whether you claim that
[6:41] Speaker 2: it was in your name or not, it is what
[6:43] Speaker 2: the protest will be remembered for. But not everyone who's
[6:49] Speaker 2: in school or university is in on the idea. In fact,
[6:52] Speaker 2: there's a couple willing to look into a camera to
[6:55] Speaker 2: push back.
[6:57] Speaker 8: Students in Queensland are going to walk out on this
[6:59] Speaker 8: third day to fight against Pauline Hanson. These kids are
[7:03] Speaker 8: so ignorant and uneducated about history that they truly think
[7:08] Speaker 8: that calling Pauline Hansen a Nazi is an accurate depiction
[7:13] Speaker 8: of what she believes.
[7:14] Speaker 2: In Helleloya Halleljah. Now, you know, when there's information which
[7:20] Speaker 2: is presented about the economy and it's nationwide and it's
[7:25] Speaker 2: the picture of the country, apparently this story is considered
[7:29] Speaker 2: a good sign for the economy. Now, of course, there
[7:33] Speaker 2: are lots of people who, of course go to work
[7:35] Speaker 2: each and every day. Not enough go to the office,
[7:37] Speaker 2: but that's another conversation. But there's equally an awful lot
[7:40] Speaker 2: of people who are looking for work. There's obviously more
[7:43] Speaker 2: people who work than are looking for work. But we
[7:45] Speaker 2: learned today via the SEAKH organization that more people are
[7:49] Speaker 2: applying for fewer jobs at record rates. According to the
[7:55] Speaker 2: People who Would Know, this marks the seventh consecutive month
[7:58] Speaker 2: that applications per job job ads have increased while the
[8:01] Speaker 2: number of job ads has decreased. Seek, one of Australia's
[8:05] Speaker 2: biggest job application sites, released its monthly employment report on Wednesday,
[8:10] Speaker 2: where the numbers were in there for all to read.
[8:13] Speaker 2: After rising one point four percent in June, applications per
[8:18] Speaker 2: jobs have reached the highest level on record, according to
[8:22] Speaker 2: the website. At the same time, the number of companies
[8:24] Speaker 2: looking to hire has declined. The numbers show the decline
[8:28] Speaker 2: mainly on the soldier soldiers shoulders of New South Wales,
[8:32] Speaker 2: whereas Victoria South Australia Western Australia has actually had a
[8:36] Speaker 2: little increase in the number of job ads.
[8:38] Speaker 1: But of course what.
[8:40] Speaker 2: The economists will view this as what the people who
[8:43] Speaker 2: view things from sort of the ten thousand meter perspective
[8:47] Speaker 2: is this is fantastic, right, you know, this is full employment.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Full employment is something that's excellent for an economy. And
[8:53] Speaker 2: I understand that argument. But remember in Australia, regardless of
[8:58] Speaker 2: whether it is a liberal government, a labor or do
[9:00] Speaker 2: Greens teel one nation whatever into the future, here's the
[9:04] Speaker 2: reality to classify as somebody who works in Australia, to
[9:09] Speaker 2: classify as being employed. To classify as employment, you of
[9:14] Speaker 2: course only need to work a couple of hours a week,
[9:18] Speaker 2: so the most casual, most part time job is counted
[9:23] Speaker 2: as well as the forty hour fifty hour a week job.
[9:26] Speaker 2: In fact, there are eight hundred and twenty two thousand,
[9:30] Speaker 2: eight hundred people who are part time workers in Australia
[9:33] Speaker 2: who say they want to work more hours. So we
[9:37] Speaker 2: don't just have a scenario where the number of jobs
[9:39] Speaker 2: is disappearing. The number of people applying is increasing. The
[9:42] Speaker 2: number of people who end up getting a part time job, well,
[9:44] Speaker 2: it's not enough hours that they can work, want to work,
[9:48] Speaker 2: and obviously money that comes in. These are the numbers
[9:51] Speaker 2: from the Bureau of Statistics. They show us here pretty simply,
[9:55] Speaker 2: all the different demographics from males fifteen to twenty four
[10:00] Speaker 2: on the left of the screen. On the right of
[10:02] Speaker 2: the screen, females sixty five and over, females fifteen to
[10:06] Speaker 2: twenty four. Two hundred thousand part time workers want more hours.
[10:13] Speaker 2: Males who are fifteen to twenty four. One hundred and
[10:16] Speaker 2: fifty thousand of those people want to work more hours,
[10:19] Speaker 2: collectively eight hundred and twenty two thousand, eight hundred people.
[10:23] Speaker 2: Oh but it's full employment. Everything is awesome again. The
[10:26] Speaker 2: part time workers who want full time work not just
[10:29] Speaker 2: more hours, but full time work. Males age twenty five
[10:33] Speaker 2: to forty four, eighty percent that are currently working part
[10:37] Speaker 2: time want to work full time, same age group of females.
[10:42] Speaker 2: It is the best part of sixty percent. So yes, technically,
[10:47] Speaker 2: and I understand, and I remember my high school economics
[10:50] Speaker 2: what full employment means and why that is can be
[10:54] Speaker 2: construed is a good thing for the country. But in
[10:56] Speaker 2: terms of the individuals, when you've basically got the best
[11:00] Speaker 2: part of a million people who are able and want
[11:04] Speaker 2: to work longer and harder, but don't get the opportunity
[11:07] Speaker 2: because the gig isn't there, or the people that are
[11:10] Speaker 2: on part time who want to go full time but
[11:12] Speaker 2: the gig isn't there, well, then you have a system
[11:15] Speaker 2: where yeah, tick, you've got a job, but it's not
[11:17] Speaker 2: enough to make your way in an ever increasing expensive
[11:22] Speaker 2: lifestyle that we have here in Australia. And again, this
[11:26] Speaker 2: is one of those prisons that people need to think
[11:28] Speaker 2: about when we think about politics, right about whose vote
[11:31] Speaker 2: is up for grabs? Okay, people on the right who've
[11:34] Speaker 2: only voted a certain way, not changing anytime soon. People
[11:37] Speaker 2: on the left only voted a certain way, not changing
[11:39] Speaker 2: anytime soon. But there are things that will move people around,
[11:42] Speaker 2: like somebody who has a policy to move more part
[11:45] Speaker 2: time workers to full time work, to be able to
[11:48] Speaker 2: create scenarios where it's easier for small business to be
[11:50] Speaker 2: able to provide more hours for people to work. Another
[11:55] Speaker 2: example is one that I tuned into for you last night,
[11:57] Speaker 2: which is under what level of ownership you have on
[12:02] Speaker 2: a house because the polling in the news twenty four Pulse, well,
[12:08] Speaker 2: it bounces around if you've paid off your house because
[12:10] Speaker 2: you worked hard. Thirty five percent of people the top
[12:13] Speaker 2: primary choice is the Coalition One Nation and Labor at
[12:16] Speaker 2: twenty five and twenty six percent, the Coalition starts to
[12:20] Speaker 2: fall away. Labor takes out number one, and unbelievably so
[12:24] Speaker 2: with people that are paying off a mortgage. Despite the
[12:27] Speaker 2: fact that there have been fifteen interest rate rises, a
[12:31] Speaker 2: third of voters still want to stick with the mob
[12:33] Speaker 2: who have overseen a huge amount of pressure. But One
[12:38] Speaker 2: Nation number of twenty eight percent also speaks to the
[12:43] Speaker 2: people that are under such financial squoize and why they
[12:45] Speaker 2: are moving. And for those that are renting, this number
[12:49] Speaker 2: absolutely flawed. Me One Nation and Labor equal number one
[12:56] Speaker 2: choice of renters, number one choice of renterers. Between them,
[13:01] Speaker 2: they have more than fifty percent of the vote. Now,
[13:04] Speaker 2: there would be plenty of people who would assume that
[13:06] Speaker 2: the rental class wouldn't be buying what One Nation is selling. Well,
[13:10] Speaker 2: they are. You want to talk about not buying what
[13:12] Speaker 2: they are selling the Coalition, because let's be honest, what
[13:15] Speaker 2: is the identifiable policy or grunt that they have for
[13:18] Speaker 2: people that are renting. Don't throw something in the television.
[13:21] Speaker 2: That's just the scorecard. The opportunity for them to grow
[13:24] Speaker 2: is there. The opportunity to hold the Labor party back
[13:27] Speaker 2: is pretty obvious when it comes to mortgage holders. And
[13:30] Speaker 2: it also speaks to again what I've talked about before,
[13:33] Speaker 2: where in Australia, yes, there are the hard lines about
[13:37] Speaker 2: left and right, but the real divides that are pushing
[13:41] Speaker 2: us into different corners and maybe new corners. In some
[13:46] Speaker 2: ways it comes to housing. In others, in my view,
[13:49] Speaker 2: it's about whether you're paying attention or not paying attention,
[13:52] Speaker 2: whether the country's working for you or not working for you.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Ross Gidden's wrote about this today when he was having
[13:59] Speaker 2: a look into the of for CAUs Samaris. He says
[14:03] Speaker 2: that Australian voters are now split three ways, but not
[14:06] Speaker 2: by party in terms of Labour supporters. Again he's quoting
[14:09] Speaker 2: here what Causes had to say. The labor block is
[14:13] Speaker 2: now overwhelmingly inner and middle ring metropolitan. It is university educated,
[14:18] Speaker 2: It rents or has recently bought a home. Now, remember,
[14:23] Speaker 2: just as many people renting vote labor as to one
[14:26] Speaker 2: nation or so that's what they're going to do at
[14:27] Speaker 2: the next election. It's overwhelmingly under the age of forty five.
[14:30] Speaker 2: It's heavily first and second generation migrant. It is anchored
[14:34] Speaker 2: in the public sector and the care economy one Nation supporters.
[14:38] Speaker 2: Its voters are not the protest vote of the nineteen nineties.
[14:42] Speaker 2: They are mortgaged as sid stretched out of suburban working
[14:46] Speaker 2: class people of western Sydney and Melbourne's out at North
[14:49] Speaker 2: and West.
[14:51] Speaker 11: Now.
[14:51] Speaker 2: The reason I'm mentioning this is not to say you know,
[14:53] Speaker 2: yeah for me, because I've been telling you about it,
[14:55] Speaker 2: But the word is spreading. People are starting to see
[14:58] Speaker 2: what we've been on the inside of four months. These
[15:02] Speaker 2: voters work in trades, transport and freight and what's left
[15:06] Speaker 2: of manufacturing. They are mortgage stressed Gen X and Boomer's
[15:12] Speaker 2: households that they bought and they brought into the dream
[15:14] Speaker 2: of an asset based prosperity and are now servicing the
[15:17] Speaker 2: dead without the wage growth that was supposed to come
[15:20] Speaker 2: with it. I found all this in this stuff amazing.
[15:23] Speaker 2: By the way, Yes, many are ango Celtic in descent,
[15:26] Speaker 2: but a rapidly rising second generation migrant component, particularly of
[15:29] Speaker 2: the children of the post war migration wave principally from Europe,
[15:33] Speaker 2: in western Sydney or out of Melbourne. The description of
[15:37] Speaker 2: liberal supporters here and again, I know this isn't every person,
[15:39] Speaker 2: and there'll be lots of different versions of this, but
[15:41] Speaker 2: apparently these are the three pots that they're looking at.
[15:44] Speaker 2: Its remaining voters are concentrated in high socioeconomic statue suburbs.
[15:48] Speaker 2: Now this isn't true for every electric bud Cities North
[15:51] Speaker 2: Shore are Melbourne's East and Bayside University educated professionals in finance, law,
[15:56] Speaker 2: corporate management. They own their own homes outright, well we
[15:59] Speaker 2: showed you that and the polling before, and are self
[16:01] Speaker 2: under retirees. They're the investment class. They're also Anglo Celtic,
[16:05] Speaker 2: predominantly over the age of fifty five. You see my
[16:10] Speaker 2: view about this program, my view about you watching this program,
[16:15] Speaker 2: my view about sharing the content that appears online about
[16:18] Speaker 2: this program is that similar to people who love to
[16:22] Speaker 2: talk about sport, they love to get right into the
[16:24] Speaker 2: nitty gritty of sport about why this team won, why
[16:27] Speaker 2: this team lost. And that's why I get into this
[16:30] Speaker 2: detail and to this data, because yes, it is very
[16:34] Speaker 2: easy to turn around and to be the football fan
[16:36] Speaker 2: who simply always passion tips their own team regardless of form.
[16:39] Speaker 2: And yes, you pass the purity test, but you're probably
[16:42] Speaker 2: not going to win the tipping competition. Now again, what
[16:46] Speaker 2: I try to do here each and every night, and
[16:48] Speaker 2: the reason I keep mentioning this is again to the
[16:50] Speaker 2: many many new people that are watching us right now
[16:53] Speaker 2: due to News twenty four and the rebrand and lots
[16:56] Speaker 2: of people who are seeing the advertising, seeing the billboards
[16:58] Speaker 2: and coming in and checking us out, is that we
[17:01] Speaker 2: will all have our opinion. I will have a strong
[17:03] Speaker 2: opinion on things, but I try to make sure that
[17:06] Speaker 2: the mortar between the bricks, the thing that holds the
[17:09] Speaker 2: opinion together, is the information. So there's no shocks when
[17:12] Speaker 2: people wake up. Because remember how the left was shocked
[17:16] Speaker 2: when Donald Trump won, was shocked when Scott Morrison held
[17:20] Speaker 2: on in twenty nineteen. There will be no shocks if
[17:23] Speaker 2: you pay attention. And that is, in my view, one
[17:25] Speaker 2: of the great divides in Australia. Forget left and right,
[17:27] Speaker 2: it's do you pay attention or not? By watching, by
[17:30] Speaker 2: spreading the word, you are paying attention and I very
[17:33] Speaker 2: much appreciate it. A couple of days ago, I told
[17:37] Speaker 2: you that there are three hundred would be terrorists who
[17:41] Speaker 2: have now moved into the deradicalization phase across Australia. That's
[17:45] Speaker 2: not over the past twenty years, that's right now. Three
[17:49] Speaker 2: hundred are in the deradicalization system. The deradicalization systems, however,
[17:55] Speaker 2: poorly targeted and a redundant, according to a terror chief,
[17:58] Speaker 2: has been giving evidence that the Anti Semitism and Social
[18:03] Speaker 2: Cohesion World Commission further reporting on this, the new band
[18:07] Speaker 2: of hate radicalizing Australian teens because sadly they get younger
[18:11] Speaker 2: and they're sucked in by more of the wild stuff
[18:13] Speaker 2: on the internet. Australia's counter terrorism chief has warned of
[18:17] Speaker 2: a rise in youth radicalization fueled by online extremism, as
[18:23] Speaker 2: he raised alarm about the spread of harmful rhetoric from
[18:26] Speaker 2: foreign propaganda machines and social media platforms who have no
[18:30] Speaker 2: regard to content moderation. Experts appearing before the Royal Commission
[18:34] Speaker 2: said a couple of days ago that they were warning
[18:37] Speaker 2: of nihilistic violent extremism and that of course means what's
[18:42] Speaker 2: the point. What's the point? So nihilism in part means
[18:47] Speaker 2: was pushing young people to pursue violence for its own
[18:50] Speaker 2: sake as government responds to radicalization is currently under the microscope.
[18:56] Speaker 2: There was a bit more about this from an expert
[18:58] Speaker 2: from New South Wales.
[19:01] Speaker 11: Nihilistic violent extremism has become a bit of a catch
[19:04] Speaker 11: cry for misanthropic, violent gore objectionable spaces online where meshed
[19:11] Speaker 11: ideas are mixing together.
[19:12] Speaker 1: And we're living in a rather.
[19:13] Speaker 11: Complex, divisive, provocative and emotive socio political climate which I
[19:18] Speaker 11: think must be incredibly difficult for younger, increasingly vulnerable cohorts
[19:22] Speaker 11: to navigate short, sharp, very intense radicalization trajectorism.
[19:28] Speaker 2: So, as always, the story is, pay attention to what
[19:33] Speaker 2: people are doing online, have conversations about the news, see
[19:36] Speaker 2: what the attitudes are that are in your house, in
[19:39] Speaker 2: your wider family, in the wider circle of friends as well,
[19:44] Speaker 2: and try to work out exactly whether people are starting
[19:48] Speaker 2: to wabble or not. And again, you can't save everyone
[19:51] Speaker 2: from everything, but we all need to be at one
[19:53] Speaker 2: hundred percent of vigilance. We all need to be a
[19:55] Speaker 2: one hundred percent firstly to save our fellow citizens from
[19:58] Speaker 2: ultimate harm. Secondly, to save our fellow citizens from falling
[20:01] Speaker 2: into rabbit holes that can only lead to terrible places. Now,
[20:06] Speaker 2: remember the old term go work, go broke, Well, there
[20:10] Speaker 2: was no better example of it than the bud Light
[20:12] Speaker 2: beer company. Remember a couple of years ago when they
[20:15] Speaker 2: decided to move from the traditional bloke focused NFL football
[20:20] Speaker 2: focused and they decided to let Dylan mulvany become kind
[20:25] Speaker 2: of a face of the brand for a little while,
[20:27] Speaker 2: and it was a different face than where you used
[20:28] Speaker 2: to Hi.
[20:31] Speaker 12: Impressive carrying skills, right, I got some bud Lights for us.
[20:35] Speaker 12: So I kept hearing about this thing called March Madness,
[20:38] Speaker 12: and I thought we were all just having a hectic month.
[20:41] Speaker 12: But it turns out it has something to do with sports,
[20:44] Speaker 12: and I'm not sure exactly which sport, but either way,
[20:48] Speaker 12: it's a cost to celebrate This month, I celebrated my
[20:53] Speaker 12: d three sixty five a womanhood, and bud Light sent
[20:56] Speaker 12: me possibly the best gift ever, a can with my
[20:59] Speaker 12: face on it.
[21:00] Speaker 13: Check up.
[21:01] Speaker 2: So my mate Kid Rock didn't like that, and millions
[21:03] Speaker 2: of other people didn't like that. Bob's way of showing
[21:07] Speaker 2: it uniquely, kid.
[21:08] Speaker 14: Rock blood like Dan High's a bush have a terrific.
[21:25] Speaker 2: Day, and this really cost them go won't go broke.
[21:31] Speaker 2: The company that put Budline out lost the best part
[21:34] Speaker 2: of a billion dollars because people were, sorry, what are
[21:36] Speaker 2: you doing? What are you standing for? What's the brand? Okay,
[21:40] Speaker 2: we get it, you know, we want as many people
[21:42] Speaker 2: to be joining it as possible. But really did in
[21:43] Speaker 2: Alvani March Madness three Round and sixty five Days of Womanhood.
[21:48] Speaker 2: Another example Jaguar good old fashioned cars that year. The
[21:54] Speaker 2: times were a little bit to fuddy duddy, but still
[21:56] Speaker 2: beautiful sports cars, wonderful pieces of engineer. Sorry, I'm just
[22:00] Speaker 2: sort of falling off into a dreamland here. Beautiful cars
[22:02] Speaker 2: are on TV. Well all of that, of course, was
[22:05] Speaker 2: OsO passe. I mean, we can't celebrate that at all.
[22:08] Speaker 2: So the rebranding looked like this color vomit? How fast
[22:26] Speaker 2: between Norton hundred? Well, guess what. The decision has now
[22:31] Speaker 2: been made from Jaguar to repivot the way they engage
[22:35] Speaker 2: and to focus on the speed of the car, the
[22:41] Speaker 2: performance of the car, the broom broom of the broom broom,
[22:44] Speaker 2: rather than the whatever the hell that was. All right,
[22:48] Speaker 2: let's get into the debate looking forward to this right now,
[22:50] Speaker 2: Lucy's Ellich's going to join us at a moment or
[22:52] Speaker 2: two times she liked me is bewildered and fire up
[22:54] Speaker 2: at the same time that the kids that are going
[22:56] Speaker 2: to go marching against the mass deportation plan that doesn't exist.
[23:00] Speaker 2: Stephen Conroy will be representing the government because of course
[23:04] Speaker 2: he's only ever here to help me and Kelly. Before
[23:06] Speaker 2: we're done as well with a pretty funny story about
[23:09] Speaker 2: why the fire department turned up to her house.
[23:12] Speaker 1: Big night, thanks for watching.
[23:18] Speaker 2: Well, let's see how often they agree not this evening,
[23:21] Speaker 2: none of than the wonderful Lucy's Elle. It's not because
[23:23] Speaker 2: you're a disagreeable it's just Stephen Conroy can be. And
[23:26] Speaker 2: of course he joined us from help. All right, So
[23:31] Speaker 2: let's get to this all right now. Who knows, judging
[23:35] Speaker 2: by social media, will be the biggest produce in the
[23:37] Speaker 2: history of Australia. Judging by the actual population, No, it
[23:40] Speaker 2: won't be. But Lucy, like me, you're unsurprised. But still
[23:46] Speaker 2: it is surprising how silly some of the stuff is
[23:50] Speaker 2: going to be tomorrow with these students that are taking
[23:53] Speaker 2: the day off, and as I said before, one of
[23:55] Speaker 2: the organizers, because hundreds of kids at my school will
[23:57] Speaker 2: be deported.
[23:58] Speaker 10: Can you imagine the the level of misinformation that's gone
[24:02] Speaker 10: into the fear mongering that surrounds all of this. Look,
[24:06] Speaker 10: I want to say this from the outset, and I
[24:07] Speaker 10: wrote a column about this recently because I was really
[24:10] Speaker 10: genuinely alarmed, and I don't think enough people know about
[24:14] Speaker 10: what's going on at the university level, at the youth
[24:17] Speaker 10: level when it comes to the type of indoctrination that's occurring,
[24:20] Speaker 10: the propaganda, the very clear agenda to steer them towards
[24:25] Speaker 10: this radical left kind of extremism.
[24:28] Speaker 15: Because when you've got these young kids that are screaming into.
[24:31] Speaker 10: A camera about f capitalism and socialism is the cure.
[24:36] Speaker 10: Do you know what the definition of socialism is? Do
[24:39] Speaker 10: you know what it actually means? Have you spoken to
[24:42] Speaker 10: people who have lived in socialist or slash communist countries
[24:46] Speaker 10: and can you please name me a country that has
[24:49] Speaker 10: been successful when it comes to socialism Venezuela, Cuba, East Germany,
[24:55] Speaker 10: Soviet Russia. These don't know what they're talking about, Paula.
[25:01] Speaker 2: Their response is always the same, Well, it's not that
[25:03] Speaker 2: socialism and communism fails, it's just that, you know, America
[25:06] Speaker 2: are undermines. Rah rah rah, you know it all right.
[25:09] Speaker 15: Well you think that they can do it better, right.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not because he believes that you just
[25:12] Speaker 2: said this crap for years. By the way, this is
[25:14] Speaker 2: I think from a and you this might be.
[25:17] Speaker 10: So a friend actually sent me this and shout out
[25:20] Speaker 10: to thank you for sharing this, and she said, this
[25:22] Speaker 10: is on the campus at the Australian National University in Canberra.
[25:26] Speaker 10: And if you have a look at what some of
[25:28] Speaker 10: it's saying there, it's encouraging people to read marks read lenin.
[25:33] Speaker 1: You know, Pauline is the symptom.
[25:35] Speaker 15: Yeah, Pauline is the symptom. Socialism is the cure.
[25:38] Speaker 10: And you listen to what some of the you know,
[25:40] Speaker 10: their comments and their retoric are and again, as I said,
[25:43] Speaker 10: it's really quite alarming.
[25:45] Speaker 15: The organizer Yasmin Johnson.
[25:47] Speaker 10: Who's also put together these pro Palestine movements, she testified
[25:50] Speaker 10: also at the Royal Commission set up that encampment at
[25:54] Speaker 10: her university. She came out and was quoted as saying,
[25:56] Speaker 10: students can see very well that what Pauline Hanson and
[25:59] Speaker 10: One Nation wants is a nasty, more vicious and oppressive
[26:02] Speaker 10: future for them. Please don't talk to me about oppression.
[26:06] Speaker 1: But also I'm so glad that she got a spot
[26:07] Speaker 1: at the Royal Commission.
[26:08] Speaker 2: But Josh Brodenberg didn't know the.
[26:10] Speaker 10: Important if the actual valuable contributions didn't. But please spare
[26:14] Speaker 10: me these discussions about oppression in this democratic, beautiful country
[26:17] Speaker 10: of ours, of which you have benefited and profited from.
[26:21] Speaker 10: I hear you like with nothing to say about what's
[26:24] Speaker 10: occurring in Afghanistan and China, China, But try and be
[26:28] Speaker 10: a citizen in Iran and speak out against the regime
[26:31] Speaker 10: and then tell me what oppression is. So these kids
[26:33] Speaker 10: have been indoctrinated and it's a problem, Stephen.
[26:35] Speaker 2: This of course is not new. There have been trots
[26:37] Speaker 2: fair well since anyway, for some period of time, all right,
[26:42] Speaker 2: And yes it always bubbles up in the same problem
[26:44] Speaker 2: and in the same way. I always put it this way, right,
[26:46] Speaker 2: which is there needs to be a Batman and a joker.
[26:50] Speaker 14: Right.
[26:51] Speaker 2: You can't be Batman if there's not the joker, and
[26:52] Speaker 2: you can't be joker if there's not Batman.
[26:54] Speaker 1: Right.
[26:54] Speaker 2: So here we go again. We're pulling Hanson second time around,
[26:58] Speaker 2: where the kids do what mum and dad and you
[27:00] Speaker 2: know she's the joker or Batman.
[27:05] Speaker 13: Look, I'd like to be disagreeable, as you introduced me,
[27:09] Speaker 13: but I'm on a one hundred percent unit.
[27:11] Speaker 1: You did it with you.
[27:17] Speaker 13: Look, I'm even embarrassed to say that's agreeable. All I
[27:20] Speaker 13: would say is I spent the a here is my
[27:24] Speaker 13: old campus. But I did spend a good fun few
[27:28] Speaker 13: years fighting the Trots and the Marxist and Lemniss and
[27:32] Speaker 13: you back in the eighties and generations before me, in
[27:35] Speaker 13: the sixties and seventies. The problem that we've got now
[27:39] Speaker 13: is that the Internet is a se online is a sewer.
[27:44] Speaker 13: People get trapped in the echo chambers. Just like the
[27:46] Speaker 13: Marga crazies get trapped in theirs, the anti vaxes get
[27:51] Speaker 13: trapped in theirs. You've got the Trots and the Socialists
[27:55] Speaker 13: trapped in theirs. Interestingly, though, just to make two points,
[28:00] Speaker 13: that Victorian state election, the Victorian Socialists I think got
[28:03] Speaker 13: nearly six percent of the vote. They hadn't run for
[28:06] Speaker 13: years and years and years, and in Victoria they got
[28:09] Speaker 13: nearly six percent of the votes.
[28:12] Speaker 2: This thing where the hard hard left number matters, right,
[28:15] Speaker 2: and I think it's a really important point, right, which
[28:17] Speaker 2: is the thresholds, particularly for Upper House or the rest
[28:20] Speaker 2: of it. I know they've changed group voting tickets all
[28:22] Speaker 2: the rest of it here, right, but it's one thing
[28:24] Speaker 2: for people to roll the rise about the Greens, roll
[28:26] Speaker 2: the rise about Victorian socialists. The hard left is very loud,
[28:31] Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a surprise
[28:34] Speaker 2: Upper House result in at least one bit of inner
[28:37] Speaker 2: city Melbourne. Yep.
[28:41] Speaker 13: Look, it's going to be fascinating to watch. You'll have
[28:44] Speaker 13: the outer the regional areas, the rural areas, you know,
[28:47] Speaker 13: the outer suburban areas going to be voting more one
[28:50] Speaker 13: nation than ever before. You'll have some of those trotty
[28:53] Speaker 13: green inner city areas being more hard left. So I
[28:57] Speaker 13: think it is going to be a fascinating situation see
[29:00] Speaker 13: what happens in the Upper House, particularly as they've changed
[29:02] Speaker 13: the voting system now, which will largely exclude very small parties.
[29:08] Speaker 13: I think one nation will still get a strong vote.
[29:11] Speaker 13: I think the Libs will still have a reasonable vote,
[29:14] Speaker 13: probably you know, ahead of one nation if you're looking
[29:17] Speaker 13: at the latest polling. Labor will have its traditional core vote.
[29:22] Speaker 13: So I think it'll be a fascinating evening if you're
[29:25] Speaker 13: watching the Upper House, which usually takes a few more
[29:27] Speaker 13: days to count them then actual day.
[29:29] Speaker 2: See, this is the thing, you know, how there were
[29:30] Speaker 2: always those people at school. We are most most people like,
[29:33] Speaker 2: most people like music, but there are always those kids
[29:35] Speaker 2: at school who didn't like what was on the radio.
[29:37] Speaker 2: They liked the independent track that had just been turned
[29:40] Speaker 2: up at the independent record shop. Right. That's kind of
[29:43] Speaker 2: Stephen and I because we will be following the Upper
[29:45] Speaker 2: House race in Victoria months out and for weeks, it's
[29:49] Speaker 2: quite all of our disagreements.
[29:51] Speaker 10: I feel like you guys were cooler than them, Like
[29:53] Speaker 10: a lot of those guys actually needed something.
[29:55] Speaker 15: To make energy and interesting. Do you know what I mean?
[29:58] Speaker 15: You guys aren't.
[30:00] Speaker 2: I'd like to think it's a not so dark secret
[30:02] Speaker 2: about how boring.
[30:03] Speaker 1: All right, cool? I don't think so? Correct? Correct, all right?
[30:08] Speaker 1: I never made a cool group, correct, correct, correct?
[30:10] Speaker 14: All right?
[30:10] Speaker 1: Now.
[30:11] Speaker 2: John Howard has offered again his perspective about how the
[30:15] Speaker 2: Liberal Party can find its way through its fight for
[30:18] Speaker 2: the right happening right now, of course, with One Nation.
[30:21] Speaker 2: Chris Kenny is looking forward to this in a documentary
[30:23] Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks time, which is going to
[30:25] Speaker 2: be fascinating to see. He has all of the key
[30:27] Speaker 2: players and most importantly people on the ground and their
[30:29] Speaker 2: experience and their changes here. But Lucy, I want to
[30:33] Speaker 2: come at this from again a slightly different view, and
[30:35] Speaker 2: that is to go back to the polling that I
[30:37] Speaker 2: first talked about last night that I've again doubled down
[30:40] Speaker 2: on tonight, which is about the idea that okay, people
[30:44] Speaker 2: who own their own home largest groups support, that their
[30:47] Speaker 2: support right now is going to be for the Liberal Party.
[30:51] Speaker 2: Amazingly well, the points well, it's four points down Labor
[30:55] Speaker 2: and One Nation. Kind of close for people that are
[30:57] Speaker 2: paying off a mortgage. But unbelievevably, the equal leader among
[31:02] Speaker 2: renters is One Nation and Labor. And the reason I
[31:05] Speaker 2: mention all of that in relation to the coalition, nine
[31:09] Speaker 2: percent of renters in this country say they would plan
[31:12] Speaker 2: to vote for the coalition if they want to look
[31:15] Speaker 2: at where is something going wrong. There's a lot of
[31:18] Speaker 2: things that might be going wrong, but that is that
[31:20] Speaker 2: is an absolute screamer that if nine percent of renters
[31:26] Speaker 2: are engaging with you, you have got more problems than
[31:29] Speaker 2: just a code pain.
[31:30] Speaker 15: It's true, but we keep hearing time and time again this.
[31:34] Speaker 10: Alban Easy government trying to dress up the housing situation
[31:37] Speaker 10: as though it's a positive right and to be looking
[31:40] Speaker 10: at what we're seeing being reported by the major banks
[31:43] Speaker 10: saying that home applications are down, while they're also, by
[31:47] Speaker 10: the way, ranking in record profits.
[31:49] Speaker 15: Which we've seen in Break today.
[31:52] Speaker 10: But this is something that it means a lot to
[31:54] Speaker 10: young families, families like myself. I too am a renter,
[31:58] Speaker 10: but we made extraordinary sacks when it came to home
[32:01] Speaker 10: ownership so that I could be home with my children
[32:04] Speaker 10: in their formative years. I'm one of those people that
[32:07] Speaker 10: is feeling the current economic climate because, as I said,
[32:11] Speaker 10: I'm someone that wants to be home with their children,
[32:12] Speaker 10: but our tax system doesn't allow for that.
[32:15] Speaker 15: And when we're.
[32:16] Speaker 10: Looking at what we're seeing at the moment, I don't know.
[32:19] Speaker 10: Even though I'm not a homeowner, I can't imagine being
[32:21] Speaker 10: happy that the value of houses is coming down. We're
[32:24] Speaker 10: talking about now having to borrow more than what your
[32:27] Speaker 10: home is worth. That's not a positive situation for families
[32:30] Speaker 10: like mine, poorly, but it's being dressed up as though, hey,
[32:33] Speaker 10: look at what we've done for young Australians.
[32:36] Speaker 2: Well correct, and also the idea that anyone above a
[32:39] Speaker 2: certain imagined line of difficulty that seems to be talking
[32:46] Speaker 2: about a financial circumstance like this lovely, wonderful smart lady
[32:49] Speaker 2: on TV. Well, it's just because her privilege is being
[32:52] Speaker 2: taken away. It's like, no bullshit, Like the reality is,
[32:55] Speaker 2: wherever you are up and down the sliding scale, the
[32:58] Speaker 2: walls are closing in financially three million people. Stephen and
[33:02] Speaker 2: I think this is a really important point about the
[33:03] Speaker 2: Labour party right that I think what is holding labor
[33:06] Speaker 2: back from being able to repeat what happened in twenty
[33:08] Speaker 2: five is interest rates. Now we know the Reserve Bank
[33:12] Speaker 2: in your issues about where they sit, but the reality
[33:15] Speaker 2: is is that mortgage holders the Red Bridge polling before
[33:19] Speaker 2: the last election, they were in the Liberal camp until
[33:23] Speaker 2: the rates started to fall, and then they swung very
[33:25] Speaker 2: heavily back towards labor. So the housing picture and those
[33:30] Speaker 2: three pictures that I've spoken about for the past couple
[33:32] Speaker 2: of nights, I think, personally, I think it's a really
[33:34] Speaker 2: interesting way of looking at it, apart from just team
[33:37] Speaker 2: Red Team Blue. Am I off with the ferries and
[33:40] Speaker 2: doing fractions of fractions or is there actually something to this?
[33:45] Speaker 9: No?
[33:45] Speaker 13: I think your spot on and looking at the changes
[33:51] Speaker 13: that are occurring in the economic circumstances, and there is
[33:54] Speaker 13: different groups and those three groups you've talked about, so
[33:57] Speaker 13: I talk about if I can just talk about a
[33:59] Speaker 13: macro point then respond to Lucy so disagreeable.
[34:04] Speaker 1: Steve is back, yes.
[34:05] Speaker 13: Okay, So that rent to question when everyone went for
[34:11] Speaker 13: the last you know, three four months since the budget,
[34:13] Speaker 13: the Liberals have been saying it's a disaster, Labour's changes disaster,
[34:16] Speaker 13: they're going to kill Renters. Well that Pole says they're
[34:20] Speaker 13: not buying the liberal story. They're really not buying the
[34:24] Speaker 13: liberal story.
[34:24] Speaker 1: Yes, but then the Liberal.
[34:26] Speaker 13: Party are representing the status quote. They're not buying the
[34:31] Speaker 13: status quo being offered by the Liberal Party, and they're
[34:35] Speaker 13: attracted to the one nation ideas and they're attracted to
[34:38] Speaker 13: Labour's ideas far more. You know, nine percent, that is
[34:41] Speaker 13: a horrific number. The second issue I'll take I'll take
[34:46] Speaker 13: issue with Lucy on was this rubbish about negative equity.
[34:51] Speaker 2: We have an entirely.
[34:54] Speaker 13: Home loan market to the.
[34:57] Speaker 10: Better than then trying to dres No.
[35:02] Speaker 13: I'm sorry, but you are literally you are you are
[35:06] Speaker 13: taking a concept from America where they have an entirely
[35:10] Speaker 13: home mortgage market. The only time, the only time you
[35:14] Speaker 13: have a problem is if you've just bought a house
[35:17] Speaker 13: and suddenly you've got to sell it and maybe you've
[35:19] Speaker 13: become unemployed.
[35:20] Speaker 2: Because reserve banks. But it interest rates up again.
[35:22] Speaker 1: Sure, but.
[35:24] Speaker 13: Your house values are plunging below what you've borrowed. If
[35:28] Speaker 13: you bought a thirty year mortgage, it doesn't matter unless
[35:32] Speaker 13: you become a distressed seller.
[35:34] Speaker 1: It's drivell okay drive.
[35:37] Speaker 13: Check on the second fact, this is one of the
[35:39] Speaker 13: second points, right, I thought we were already the second
[35:43] Speaker 13: point this idea. No, No, that was the first point.
[35:45] Speaker 13: Still the second point, and this is really important. The collapse,
[35:49] Speaker 13: the collapse in applications is in the investor, in the
[35:54] Speaker 13: investor side. So I got some big news for you.
[35:57] Speaker 13: The policy was designed to take investors out of that market.
[36:02] Speaker 1: And did you believe?
[36:03] Speaker 2: What do you think?
[36:04] Speaker 15: But what do you change?
[36:05] Speaker 10: Sequences of taking investors out of the market is going
[36:09] Speaker 10: to do steven the repercussions right across the board to
[36:12] Speaker 10: multiple businesses. You're looking at this from the macro level.
[36:16] Speaker 10: What about actually starting to unpack what doesn't just affect investors.
[36:20] Speaker 10: You're thinking of all these wealthy investors that are coming
[36:23] Speaker 10: and sweeping everybody out of the market.
[36:25] Speaker 15: What about the mum and dad or the.
[36:27] Speaker 10: Young nurse and her police officer husband who want to
[36:29] Speaker 10: invest in property and to build a portfolio and leave
[36:32] Speaker 10: something behind.
[36:33] Speaker 15: For their children.
[36:34] Speaker 10: You keep acting like this is all just it's a
[36:37] Speaker 10: very kind of like socialist view.
[36:39] Speaker 15: Tax the rich. We've got to go after all these
[36:41] Speaker 15: rich investors.
[36:42] Speaker 13: They're nine property socialists about it.
[36:44] Speaker 11: Come on, the.
[36:45] Speaker 15: Attitude is the atague economics one?
[36:48] Speaker 13: Oh wow, okay, this is right wing economics one O
[36:51] Speaker 13: one that I learned at A and U in the economics.
[36:53] Speaker 10: Fact of course you did at Lenin and Marks and
[36:57] Speaker 10: my rest of them, all the rest of them over
[36:59] Speaker 10: at eight.
[36:59] Speaker 15: Now I was nice try.
[37:00] Speaker 10: I went to a nice try.
[37:03] Speaker 13: Let me just finish my point.
[37:05] Speaker 15: Am I trying to disagreeable?
[37:08] Speaker 1: Disagreeable? Straight? Gotcha? Sorry? They look at the best investment.
[37:13] Speaker 13: They look at the best investments, the best investment based
[37:18] Speaker 13: on the tax position and tax return, and for the
[37:21] Speaker 13: last twenty odd twenty five years or twenty years is
[37:24] Speaker 13: the change was made on capital guests, They went the
[37:26] Speaker 13: best investment from my investment portfolio is housing. Now what
[37:31] Speaker 13: they're doing is they're looking at and going housing is
[37:33] Speaker 13: not the best investment anymore. They're going to invest in
[37:36] Speaker 13: something else that gives them a better return than the house.
[37:39] Speaker 13: They're not going on strike and not investing well like.
[37:41] Speaker 10: A business you mean where the government takes forty seven
[37:44] Speaker 10: percent of them when they sell it. What is a
[37:47] Speaker 10: good investment in this country? What's this government doing to
[37:50] Speaker 10: increase productivity? What increases business? What's what are we experiencing
[37:55] Speaker 10: in droves the closures of businesses?
[37:58] Speaker 13: People leave the investor than me, who will work that
[38:01] Speaker 13: out for themselves.
[38:02] Speaker 15: Yeah, because they're going off now, Stephen.
[38:04] Speaker 13: They're going on now economically wrong, not socialist economic right
[38:09] Speaker 13: wing economics. They're making a decision based on where's the
[38:11] Speaker 13: best tax advantage for them, and there's nothing wrong with that.
[38:14] Speaker 13: They've just suddenly housed his arms.
[38:17] Speaker 1: I want to say one last thing. Okay, all right,
[38:22] Speaker 1: let's get a right brother and sister.
[38:25] Speaker 2: I should say, of course, now we've got tomorrow in
[38:29] Speaker 2: the UK is when there's going to be the by
[38:30] Speaker 2: election where a Niger fras will of course run when
[38:34] Speaker 2: he's running up against the cant Bin face. I have
[38:36] Speaker 2: avoided the count Bin face of everything, but this grab
[38:39] Speaker 2: is very funny being when he was interviewed by an
[38:41] Speaker 2: American reporter.
[38:42] Speaker 1: A look, well I.
[38:44] Speaker 4: Am I am the galactic center and everything else just
[38:48] Speaker 4: revolves around me like peper planets.
[38:50] Speaker 9: Could you put that in like American political terms.
[38:53] Speaker 4: Yes, I'm the galactic center and everything else bins around
[38:58] Speaker 4: me like little planet.
[39:01] Speaker 1: That's very funny. That's very funny. All right, back of Nigel,
[39:05] Speaker 1: but that was very funny. Thank you, Lucy, Thank you Stevens.
[39:08] Speaker 15: The funnier is it just terrifying?
[39:09] Speaker 1: It is slightly terrifying. All right.
[39:12] Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Meghan Kelly next year on
[39:14] Speaker 2: Paul Murray Life. Thanks for watching that time of the
[39:22] Speaker 2: week to talk to our favorite person in the world,
[39:23] Speaker 2: the one, the only, the wonderful Megan Kelly.
[39:25] Speaker 1: Meghan, love you to see you.
[39:26] Speaker 9: Great to be here.
[39:27] Speaker 1: So AOC is running for president.
[39:29] Speaker 2: No, she hasn't announced it, but she's old enough she'll
[39:32] Speaker 2: have the support and the crazier the Democrats become, the
[39:35] Speaker 2: more likely she is to become the nominee. And she
[39:38] Speaker 2: is now starting to pretend the Jedi mind trick. Stupid
[39:41] Speaker 2: things I said in the past that don't exist anymore.
[39:44] Speaker 8: I have a local city councilman that has this.
[39:49] Speaker 15: Saying walk one was crazy.
[39:53] Speaker 1: Crazy.
[39:54] Speaker 9: Absolutely not. She thinks as her party goes extra crazy,
[39:58] Speaker 9: if she just reverts to mildly crazy, it's going to
[40:02] Speaker 9: make her electable. But she was the leader of extra
[40:05] Speaker 9: crazy for the past ten years. She is the reason
[40:08] Speaker 9: we have woke. And there's no woke one point oh
[40:11] Speaker 9: or two point oh, there's only one woke and it's
[40:13] Speaker 9: still here and it's disgusting. It's like this doxic film
[40:17] Speaker 9: that's all over us. It's like this cancer that's still
[40:19] Speaker 9: in some of ourselves that we need a little chemo
[40:21] Speaker 9: to excize. And she's just like, haha, I give you
[40:24] Speaker 9: pancreatic cancer.
[40:25] Speaker 14: Haha.
[40:26] Speaker 9: It's so funny. I mean, truly, she cannot be allowed
[40:29] Speaker 9: to get away with this.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Now, normally we don't talk sport, but I want to
[40:32] Speaker 2: talk about the WNBA. No, not all the controversy about
[40:36] Speaker 2: biological blokes trying to play in that league, which of
[40:40] Speaker 2: course is four women, but an unbelievable incident where one
[40:44] Speaker 2: player basically delivers a head high tackle to another.
[40:49] Speaker 1: He's the incident Sophie cutting in.
[40:56] Speaker 12: Just okay, that Sophie's okay, happy that Sophie's okay, he
[41:00] Speaker 12: this man, that's a hit.
[41:02] Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're in the air.
[41:04] Speaker 2: And then, amazingly, the person who committed the violence starts
[41:07] Speaker 2: winging what privilege on lawn.
[41:10] Speaker 9: And then denies it. So this case of Dejona Carrington
[41:15] Speaker 9: has got every element to it. This is a black
[41:19] Speaker 9: woman born to a family of privilege. Her father was
[41:22] Speaker 9: a professional athlete, I think her mother was to She's
[41:25] Speaker 9: got a lot of successful people in her family, and
[41:28] Speaker 9: she winds up going to Stanford University, where she has
[41:32] Speaker 9: a double major. African American studies not great, there's no
[41:35] Speaker 9: future in that, and psychology equally pointless, but okay whatever.
[41:40] Speaker 9: She's an athlete there, so they put her on the
[41:42] Speaker 9: easy track academically and she gets her degree and moves
[41:46] Speaker 9: on to the WNBA. When she graduates from Stanford, one
[41:49] Speaker 9: of our most prestigious universities, she looks like a normal
[41:53] Speaker 9: human being. Jason Whitlock, great commentator over here. He happens
[41:57] Speaker 9: to be black. He's unsparing when people play the race card.
[42:01] Speaker 15: He said.
[42:02] Speaker 9: He looked at her picture on graduation from from Stanford
[42:04] Speaker 9: and said, this is every black father's dream to have
[42:07] Speaker 9: a girl like this. She's stunning. She's tall, she's beautiful,
[42:12] Speaker 9: she has the long hair, she's When she gave interviews,
[42:15] Speaker 9: she sounded smart, determined to make something out of herself,
[42:19] Speaker 9: not too self aggrandizing, not too high, not too low,
[42:21] Speaker 9: you know, just somebody you could relate to. Then she
[42:24] Speaker 9: gets drafted into the WNBA, which is even more of
[42:29] Speaker 9: a woke indoctrination factory than American universities are, and within
[42:34] Speaker 9: a couple of years, her long, beautiful black hair is
[42:39] Speaker 9: now ten times blonder than mine. She looks like a
[42:43] Speaker 9: little kim imitation, and that's not a compliment. She now
[42:48] Speaker 9: has got like the heavy lashes and the weird eyebrows
[42:52] Speaker 9: and the overly indulged I don't know if it's filler
[42:55] Speaker 9: or just bad makeup, but she's extra, as the kids
[42:59] Speaker 9: would say. But that's what this league does to you.
[43:02] Speaker 9: And then on top of all that, she's got to
[43:05] Speaker 9: be like that bad you know who takes down Sophie Cunningham,
[43:09] Speaker 9: the one woman who actually does have naturally blonde hair
[43:12] Speaker 9: and is white and is spoken out on the trans issue.
[43:15] Speaker 9: Djene gets ejected from the game because this is such
[43:18] Speaker 9: a flagrant foul. Level two, which is worse than level one,
[43:22] Speaker 9: and she decides to go on her thread's account, which
[43:24] Speaker 9: tells us half of what we need to know, and
[43:27] Speaker 9: tweets out in all caps white privilege. Well, the short
[43:34] Speaker 9: storm rating down on her because there is no white
[43:37] Speaker 9: privilege in the WNBA. That's a joke. There is plenty
[43:41] Speaker 9: of black female athlete privilege in America, never mind in
[43:46] Speaker 9: the WNBA. So she tweets this out and then the
[43:49] Speaker 9: storm comes and she's sorry for all this swearing, and
[43:51] Speaker 9: she tries to say, ah, sorry, you dumbasses, but I
[43:56] Speaker 9: wasn't referring to that. You just jump to conclusion. I
[44:00] Speaker 9: am educated in privilege, Okay, Like I went to school
[44:04] Speaker 9: for this and that's not what I was talking. Meanwhile,
[44:07] Speaker 9: she seems to have forgotten she cc she added the
[44:11] Speaker 9: Indiana fever in her tweet.
[44:15] Speaker 2: And another part of this that is just outrageous. The
[44:17] Speaker 2: coach of the woman who got hit comes out to
[44:20] Speaker 2: support the person who.
[44:23] Speaker 9: Hit her, and she would never have done that if
[44:28] Speaker 9: the player she represented had been black and the assailant
[44:32] Speaker 9: had been white. This woman, Stephanie White, is another one
[44:35] Speaker 9: where she's a white woman. She's in there, She's like, yeah,
[44:39] Speaker 9: she's gone she's gonna fight for this. She's not like,
[44:42] Speaker 9: what are you trying to do? You're trying to sound
[44:44] Speaker 9: either like a man or like a black athlete. Is
[44:47] Speaker 9: that what I don't get it? Because women don't sound
[44:49] Speaker 9: like this. Normal women don't talk like this. We don't
[44:52] Speaker 9: drop the g's off of every word and dress like
[44:56] Speaker 9: men and try to project like men. Like honestly, this
[44:59] Speaker 9: is why you know, I don't want my daughter to
[45:01] Speaker 9: go into professional sports of any kind, you know, like
[45:03] Speaker 9: maybe ice skating, like every other sport seems to want
[45:07] Speaker 9: to turn these girls into men, some sort of dominant
[45:11] Speaker 9: male character and lose their femininity. And if they maintain
[45:16] Speaker 9: their femininity like a Sophie Cunningham, then you're maga Barbie.
[45:19] Speaker 9: Then it's like you don't then you're not taken Seriously.
[45:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got some fears withe. The os skating is
[45:24] Speaker 2: the pasteful sport. Remember Tonya Harding, I know, a long
[45:27] Speaker 2: time ago, but still rather violent. By the way, why
[45:30] Speaker 2: did the five Department turn up to your house this week?
[45:34] Speaker 9: Well it's not my forte paul. As I like to say,
[45:39] Speaker 9: people ask me like, can you play tennis?
[45:41] Speaker 15: Can do this?
[45:41] Speaker 9: I always say anything I'm skilled at you already know about.
[45:46] Speaker 9: I don't don't have a secret set of skills that
[45:48] Speaker 9: like I'm going to unleash on you someday, Like I'm
[45:50] Speaker 9: a great chef. So I got the idea to cook
[45:55] Speaker 9: some bread and chicken like panco chicken, which I think
[45:59] Speaker 9: is pretty base, sisters out there, am I right? It's
[46:01] Speaker 9: pretty basic. Most moms can do it. I've done it before.
[46:04] Speaker 9: In my defense, however, this we're in a home we've
[46:08] Speaker 9: owned for ten years, but it was just redone. So
[46:10] Speaker 9: the stove is new and it has like one of
[46:14] Speaker 9: those things that automatically turns on the fan when it
[46:17] Speaker 9: gets smoky, and it didn't work okay, So I guess
[46:19] Speaker 9: it got a little too smoky too quickly, and before
[46:23] Speaker 9: I knew it, every fire alarm in the whole house
[46:26] Speaker 9: was going off. I'm not sure what to do here,
[46:29] Speaker 9: So the firemen show up. If my home had been
[46:33] Speaker 9: burning down in a five alarm blaze, they would have
[46:36] Speaker 9: been wearing nothing less. I mean they showed up, but
[46:40] Speaker 9: for like a hose. They were ready to help. It
[46:43] Speaker 9: was five firemen in total. They came, They opened the door,
[46:47] Speaker 9: they see me there, totally fine. They go did you
[46:50] Speaker 9: try to cook? Yes, yes I did.
[46:56] Speaker 2: I'm sorry with you. The only special skills I have
[46:59] Speaker 2: cont dance is this right?
[47:02] Speaker 1: All you can see is all I have was.
[47:04] Speaker 9: A sign from God. Really, this was just a reminder
[47:07] Speaker 9: from God you can't do this, and I really I
[47:10] Speaker 9: am not going to touch that stove again this summer.
[47:12] Speaker 9: I will touch the oven, which seems less likely to
[47:16] Speaker 9: turn into fleame.
[47:19] Speaker 1: Loving to see you, Megan, see your Paul.
[47:26] Speaker 2: Now, as you know, it is not a sometimes food
[47:29] Speaker 2: It is an all day, every day, every week feature
[47:32] Speaker 2: of this program, which is that we like to show
[47:35] Speaker 2: you the dumb social media videos that are made for
[47:39] Speaker 2: by the specially paid by staff member to the politicians.
[47:42] Speaker 2: The show is for ugly people that are talking down
[47:45] Speaker 2: the patronizing presentation. Well this one is from Alice Jordan Baird,
[47:51] Speaker 2: who is a member for Gorton.
[47:53] Speaker 15: Enjoy Ready Rainbow r A.
[47:58] Speaker 1: I M don't.
[48:02] Speaker 2: Legislators, Oh we're all mate. Cara cookies here? What's she
[48:06] Speaker 2: doing to entertain the kids today?
[48:09] Speaker 1: But I hadn't been for GARDENA do I've been married
[48:12] Speaker 1: a long time ago. Where did you come from? Where
[48:14] Speaker 1: did you go? Where did you come from? Catena?
[48:16] Speaker 2: Do Josh Burns is the labor member for McNamara and
[48:23] Speaker 2: apparently likes to play the guitar.
[48:26] Speaker 1: This is so stupid. Don't put this on social media.
[48:31] Speaker 7: Fill out the census For some consensus evidence is mountain,
[48:40] Speaker 7: so make sure you counted.
[48:46] Speaker 1: Josh go away.
[48:49] Speaker 2: See tomorrow.

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