# Paul Murray Live | 30 July

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 30 Jul 2026, 49 min.

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A test diagnosing Alzheimer’s up to 20 years before symptoms appear, Aussies face new petrol warnings as the Iran war spreads to the Red Sea. Plus, Labor MP Luke Gosling charged with assault. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sharry My say
[0:07] Speaker 1: on doctor Fauchi in a second. We're going an awful
[0:09] Speaker 1: lot to get through tonight here. Thank you so much
[0:11] Speaker 1: for watching us in the man Cave this evening. Remember
[0:14] Speaker 1: this is a Thursday night and that always means winners
[0:16] Speaker 1: and losers of the week. Colin Flynn will send us
[0:18] Speaker 1: off into the weekend with his lovely lilting Irish accent
[0:21] Speaker 1: and always a great story. But first, something awesome happened today. Now,
[0:26] Speaker 1: generally speaking, this is the fire and brimstone bit, and
[0:28] Speaker 1: don't worry, I've got plenty of that in a second.
[0:30] Speaker 1: But something amazing happened today. If you know somebody who
[0:35] Speaker 1: has dementia, have had to care for somebody with dementia,
[0:38] Speaker 1: you know how debilitating it can be. And the predictions
[0:41] Speaker 1: are that there is going to be an awful lot
[0:42] Speaker 1: more dementia cases in Australia. The top line is all people.
[0:46] Speaker 1: The middle two lines or the bottom two lines, I
[0:49] Speaker 1: should say, that's the male and female and them together.
[0:51] Speaker 1: And you see that number, it only keeps going higher.
[0:54] Speaker 1: And Alzheimer's makes up about seventy percent of all dementia
[0:58] Speaker 1: cases in Australia and sadly now dementia is the number
[1:02] Speaker 1: one cause of death in Australia. It's above heart disease,
[1:06] Speaker 1: it's above respiratory diseases, it's above stroke, and it's above
[1:09] Speaker 1: cancers that are sort of above the shoulders. Well, today
[1:15] Speaker 1: we have learned that there is a possibility of being
[1:19] Speaker 1: able to get the first signs of Alzheimer's twenty years
[1:25] Speaker 1: earlier than previously we would have been able to see it.
[1:29] Speaker 1: Apparently it has all to do with a blood test.
[1:31] Speaker 1: And while generally speaking you always have to take major
[1:34] Speaker 1: medical things with the slight grain of salt, there was
[1:37] Speaker 1: the full support today of the Health Minister and it
[1:41] Speaker 1: seems to be a very significant innovation and a conversation
[1:44] Speaker 1: was happening in my mate Tom Connell to explain what
[1:46] Speaker 1: this is. So if like me, we all want to
[1:49] Speaker 1: make sure that the difficulties of that condition can be minimized,
[1:55] Speaker 1: that things can be dealt with as soon as possible,
[1:57] Speaker 1: well then yeah, today was a very big day.
[2:01] Speaker 2: The level of correlation of this blood BUYO marker and
[2:04] Speaker 2: changes in the brain are extremely tight, so this is
[2:08] Speaker 2: probably one of the best blood biomarkers we have today
[2:11] Speaker 2: it's known as phosphota two one seven and yes it
[2:14] Speaker 2: picks it up at least twenty years before the onset
[2:16] Speaker 2: of symptoms, so that what makes it very exciting.
[2:20] Speaker 1: That's extraordinary. Obviously, talk to your local doctor who will
[2:23] Speaker 1: be able to lead you in the path of how
[2:25] Speaker 1: all of this works. But again, how big a game
[2:28] Speaker 1: changer is this? Why is it worth leading the show with? Well,
[2:31] Speaker 1: I'll let the good doctor explain.
[2:33] Speaker 2: So we can intervene early, not just for drugs that
[2:37] Speaker 2: we know that are currently available that modify the amloid
[2:39] Speaker 2: and the brain and reduce it markedly, but also at
[2:42] Speaker 2: lifestyle interventions. So this is a great step forward.
[2:47] Speaker 1: Now this is spectacular news. It's massive news. It will
[2:50] Speaker 1: change the lives and the quality of life of hundreds
[2:53] Speaker 1: of thousands of Australians and potentially millions more into the future.
[2:57] Speaker 1: So strength and love to everyone who is dealing with
[2:59] Speaker 1: it right now, either as a care or somebody who
[3:02] Speaker 1: is dealing with it inside their own body. And again,
[3:06] Speaker 1: I hope this is everything that it appears to be.
[3:08] Speaker 1: But it is a very good day for those who
[3:10] Speaker 1: would like us to eventually get to a better place
[3:12] Speaker 1: when it comes to something that is now the number
[3:14] Speaker 1: one killer in Australia. Now back to politics, back to
[3:18] Speaker 1: what you expect all right now, the Prime Minister, and
[3:20] Speaker 1: I've been saying all this week, is of course, unsurprisingly,
[3:24] Speaker 1: trying to have it both ways while pretending to care
[3:27] Speaker 1: about cost of living and that any chance to say
[3:30] Speaker 1: it as many times as he can.
[3:32] Speaker 3: Cost of living, cost of living, relief, cost of living,
[3:35] Speaker 3: cost of living.
[3:37] Speaker 1: His government. He has made the decision to increase petrol taxes. Now,
[3:42] Speaker 1: remember it was a wonderful gift to all of Australia
[3:45] Speaker 1: that they were going to have the amount of petrol
[3:47] Speaker 1: tax that they take. And I mentioned it every night,
[3:51] Speaker 1: because now that it is disappearing, there should be some consequences.
[3:57] Speaker 1: Supposedly this was to help everyone with cost of living.
[4:00] Speaker 1: Living is still a significant problem. The cost of fuel
[4:03] Speaker 1: might be slightly less than where it was at the
[4:05] Speaker 1: start of the war, but it still ain't anywhere where
[4:08] Speaker 1: it was a few years ago. And we're even hearing
[4:12] Speaker 1: some predictions before they remove this tax that the price
[4:16] Speaker 1: of fuel is about to go up because of all
[4:18] Speaker 1: of the events that are taking place in the Middle
[4:20] Speaker 1: East right now. Well, I think there should be a
[4:23] Speaker 1: consequence here if a government gets the praise for the help,
[4:26] Speaker 1: then they have to cop the kick in the backside
[4:28] Speaker 1: when the help disappears. But today in and about was
[4:33] Speaker 1: the Finance minister. She was the one left to carry
[4:35] Speaker 1: the can and when asked about the decision and why
[4:39] Speaker 1: from this weekend it disappears. From Monday it's back to
[4:43] Speaker 1: fifty two cents eleter plus GST. A person who drives
[4:48] Speaker 1: around in a car with a driver which has fuel
[4:51] Speaker 1: in it paid for by you and me via a
[4:54] Speaker 1: fuel card, well this is what she serves up.
[4:58] Speaker 4: So the decision around reducing the fuel excize was it
[5:02] Speaker 4: was a temporary decision. It was taken initially when those
[5:06] Speaker 4: prices for petrol in particular really skyrocketed after following the
[5:11] Speaker 4: outbreak of war in the Middle East. That support was
[5:14] Speaker 4: always intended to be temporary assistance whilst petrol was high.
[5:21] Speaker 1: Now to the situation involving Luke Gosling, who is the
[5:23] Speaker 1: member for Solomon in the Northern Territory, that is the
[5:27] Speaker 1: area mainly populated by Darwin and Palmerston just up the road. Now.
[5:31] Speaker 1: Luke Gosling has been a very successful politician for the
[5:34] Speaker 1: Labour Party. The seat of Solomon used to be only
[5:37] Speaker 1: one termer and then had to flip the other way,
[5:39] Speaker 1: and then the other way, and then the other way.
[5:41] Speaker 1: But he has been re elected multiple times. It is
[5:43] Speaker 1: now the longest serving MP for the most populated parts
[5:47] Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory, the Northern Territory, and he has
[5:49] Speaker 1: two low house MPs, one based in the North and
[5:51] Speaker 1: one based in the South. Well, as you know by now,
[5:55] Speaker 1: there was a story that Matt Cunningham reported last week
[6:00] Speaker 1: at the equivalent of a state governor, in this case
[6:03] Speaker 1: a chief administrator, the representative of the crown, had made
[6:09] Speaker 1: an allegation of an assault and the assault allegation had
[6:12] Speaker 1: been leveled against the local federal MP. Now, all of
[6:17] Speaker 1: this started about a week ago and Matt Cunningham asked
[6:21] Speaker 1: Luke Gosling about the story back then.
[6:26] Speaker 5: Two detectives have been here for the past three hours.
[6:30] Speaker 5: They just left a short time ago, and they were
[6:32] Speaker 5: here to interview the Northern Territories Administrator, David Connolly. That
[6:36] Speaker 5: follows a complaint that he made to police about an
[6:40] Speaker 5: altercation that occurred between the administrator. According to the administrator,
[6:45] Speaker 5: an altercation with the federal Labor MP, Luke Gosling at
[6:50] Speaker 5: a tie festival that was held in Darwin on Saturday. Hey, Luke,
[6:55] Speaker 5: you're running with the administrator.
[6:57] Speaker 6: On the weekend.
[6:58] Speaker 1: We gave it.
[7:01] Speaker 6: There, you didn't.
[7:03] Speaker 5: You didn't have a running with him.
[7:07] Speaker 1: Well, despite the denial, you know what happened today.
[7:11] Speaker 7: And we have a report through that Luke Gosling has
[7:15] Speaker 7: been arrested in Darwin. The police statement we have through
[7:20] Speaker 7: here says Northern Territory Police have arrested a fifty four
[7:23] Speaker 7: year old man, a federal member for Solomon, in relation
[7:26] Speaker 7: to an alleged assault on the Administrator of the Northern Territory.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Now, let's be very clear. He denies the allegation and
[7:34] Speaker 1: says that the charges will be fully contested when the
[7:37] Speaker 1: matter appears at court again in a few weeks time.
[7:40] Speaker 1: But again, Matt Cunningham, who was across the story last week,
[7:42] Speaker 1: was across the story as it happened today. Is an
[7:45] Speaker 1: incredible asset to this organization and one of the great
[7:48] Speaker 1: reporters who doesn't want to leave the territory for anywhere else.
[7:50] Speaker 1: He's in heaven right now and he loves that joint,
[7:53] Speaker 1: which means he is always on the story and is
[7:55] Speaker 1: one of the best reporters in the country.
[7:59] Speaker 5: Luke Gosling was rested at his dar And home on
[8:01] Speaker 5: Thursday morning and brought here to the Palmeston Police station.
[8:05] Speaker 5: After being questioned for almost three hours. Police charged mister
[8:08] Speaker 5: Gosling with two counts of allegedly assaulting the administrator. David Connolly,
[8:13] Speaker 5: the member for the Darwin seat of Solomon, made no
[8:15] Speaker 5: comment as he left the station.
[8:18] Speaker 1: Are you still denying these derogations?
[8:21] Speaker 8: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister.
[8:24] Speaker 1: Now? The Prime Minister's office released effectively a holding statement
[8:28] Speaker 1: that because the matters were for the courts, we couldn't
[8:30] Speaker 1: really get involved in anything here and effectively tumbleweed since
[8:33] Speaker 1: no radio, no television interviews, and inevitably he will get
[8:37] Speaker 1: asked a question presumably when he does reappear. Given the
[8:40] Speaker 1: form of the Prime Minister, when there's bad news around,
[8:42] Speaker 1: we won't see him tomorrow, we won't see him on Saturday.
[8:44] Speaker 1: He'll appear on Sunday, and that's yesterday's news. Is generally
[8:47] Speaker 1: the way that things work. But there is one part
[8:50] Speaker 1: of this story that we do need to talk about,
[8:52] Speaker 1: and it is the decision to physically go to his
[8:55] Speaker 1: house and to physically arrest him. Now again, Goslin completely
[9:00] Speaker 1: denies the allegation, denies the charge. So presumably if it
[9:05] Speaker 1: was to take the next level which it now has,
[9:08] Speaker 1: presumably if USD he would have been able to turn
[9:11] Speaker 1: up at a police station. Instead, the police turned up
[9:13] Speaker 1: and arrested him, something that his lawyer says is potentially
[9:17] Speaker 1: politically motivated because of course, at that territory level it
[9:21] Speaker 1: is a country liberal government, not a labor government. A
[9:24] Speaker 1: very big accusation to swing and one that I think
[9:27] Speaker 1: is unfair.
[9:29] Speaker 3: It's particularly concerning that in a matter of this type
[9:33] Speaker 3: police resorted to the power of arrest where it could
[9:37] Speaker 3: easily have been dealt with or noticed to a peer
[9:39] Speaker 3: or a summons. It's a concern that that might have
[9:42] Speaker 3: some political basis behind it. The charge is fully and
[9:46] Speaker 3: completely contested, but we're unable to comment any further other
[9:54] Speaker 3: than to say we are assistant police with their investigations
[9:57] Speaker 3: and will cooperate Fullybviously.
[10:00] Speaker 1: There are two stories here. There is the story about
[10:02] Speaker 1: what is alleged to have happened. A court will make
[10:04] Speaker 1: that decision, but there is going to be an inevitable
[10:06] Speaker 1: process discussion, which was why did police turn up at
[10:10] Speaker 1: his house. Why was he arrested. I don't know the
[10:12] Speaker 1: details of whether arrests simply just meant hey hop in
[10:16] Speaker 1: the car with us, or you can follow us in
[10:17] Speaker 1: another car. I don't know, But all of that will
[10:20] Speaker 1: come out in the next couple of days. I don't
[10:21] Speaker 1: believe there's any indication or any proof at this point
[10:24] Speaker 1: to suggest that it is anything other than the decision
[10:27] Speaker 1: by the police. But yep, that's going to be something
[10:28] Speaker 1: that will be there in the next couple of days.
[10:31] Speaker 1: But what to do with a federal Member of Parliament
[10:34] Speaker 1: who has now been charged with two counts of assault
[10:37] Speaker 1: ones that may well completely disappear once the court process,
[10:41] Speaker 1: or of course it can go completely the other way. Now,
[10:44] Speaker 1: Luke Gosling is not forced by any rule to have
[10:47] Speaker 1: to resign from Parliament because of course innocent until proven guilty.
[10:52] Speaker 1: But he is a little more than an MP, not
[10:54] Speaker 1: much more, but still a little more than an MP.
[10:57] Speaker 1: You see, the Labor Party, of course, have Cabinet minister,
[11:00] Speaker 1: and then they have assistant ministers, and then there's this
[11:03] Speaker 1: sort of other job of special envoy that has been created.
[11:07] Speaker 1: It doesn't really exist in the ministry list. As best
[11:10] Speaker 1: as I know, you don't get paid any extra money
[11:12] Speaker 1: for it, but it's an extra title. So if you
[11:16] Speaker 1: are a Dan Repercoli, you become the special envoid the
[11:19] Speaker 1: Prime Minister on men's health. But it also makes you
[11:22] Speaker 1: seem a little more than just a local MP in
[11:25] Speaker 1: his seat in the Hunter and in Darwin. This is
[11:28] Speaker 1: an extra little title whenever you get introduced as the
[11:31] Speaker 1: member for Solomon. So the question is should he have
[11:36] Speaker 1: to step away from these positions that elevate him above
[11:39] Speaker 1: being a local MP. Now we would all know what
[11:42] Speaker 1: the collective media reaction would be if it was a conservative,
[11:45] Speaker 1: so unsurprisingly the opposition says the same rules should apply
[11:49] Speaker 1: to Luke Gosling.
[11:51] Speaker 9: The big question is what is the Prime Minister doing
[11:54] Speaker 9: about this? Mister Gosling has a role as a special envoy,
[11:59] Speaker 9: you know, he really ought to be the Prime Minister
[12:02] Speaker 9: ought to be calling Luke to step down while this
[12:06] Speaker 9: whole process goes through the channels and the processes that
[12:11] Speaker 9: it needs to do so.
[12:13] Speaker 1: Which brings us to the third element of the story.
[12:15] Speaker 1: If he was a minister, it'd be pretty obvious that
[12:17] Speaker 1: he would have to stand down. But if he's a
[12:19] Speaker 1: special envoy and it's really titled only is there anything
[12:23] Speaker 1: to actually stand down from. We'll all find out together
[12:26] Speaker 1: and may the collective memory of the press gallery lasts
[12:29] Speaker 1: longer than the twenty four hours where the Prime Minister
[12:32] Speaker 1: won't be around to talk about it. Now. As you know,
[12:37] Speaker 1: I've got little kids that are in primary school right now.
[12:40] Speaker 1: Can you believe that my ildness is about to go
[12:41] Speaker 1: to high school? But I care a lot about our
[12:44] Speaker 1: schools because of course it is the incubator and it
[12:47] Speaker 1: is our future. And there is a massive problem that's
[12:49] Speaker 1: been happening in our schools for too long. I've talked
[12:51] Speaker 1: about the Naplan results which have gone backwards. I've talked
[12:54] Speaker 1: about education standards, but there is also a real problem.
[13:00] Speaker 1: I don't understand why it isn't being dealt with, and
[13:03] Speaker 1: that is the problem of behavior in our classrooms. Now.
[13:06] Speaker 1: We're not going to bring back the cane. Nobody's bringing
[13:08] Speaker 1: back the cane anytime soon. But a parliamentary report which
[13:12] Speaker 1: was done back in twenty twenty two warned us that
[13:18] Speaker 1: Australia was towards the bottom of the OECD rankings when
[13:23] Speaker 1: it came to behavior in classrooms. Have a look at
[13:26] Speaker 1: the list. The top of the tree, Japan, Korea, Austria,
[13:30] Speaker 1: bottom Australia, Greece, Sweden, Chile and for some reason dead
[13:34] Speaker 1: last New Zealand. Now this is a problem because if
[13:40] Speaker 1: a teacher can't control the classroom, then the learning environment
[13:43] Speaker 1: for all kids, let alone the one that is causing
[13:45] Speaker 1: the trouble in the classroom, it evaporates. I know this
[13:49] Speaker 1: because I was the kid who used to disrupt everyone
[13:51] Speaker 1: in class. But I also was suspend a couple of
[13:54] Speaker 1: times and spent plenty of time being booted out of classes.
[13:57] Speaker 1: It's not a wonderful way to live a life, but
[13:59] Speaker 1: that's the way I was when I was a teenager.
[14:02] Speaker 1: Well as the focus in the next couple of days
[14:06] Speaker 1: is going to start moving towards some publications including whate
[14:09] Speaker 1: across the News Corporation, a collection of celebrations of teachers
[14:13] Speaker 1: and teaching standards and great teachers, they are also having
[14:17] Speaker 1: a look at this issue that still remains unsolved. In fact,
[14:21] Speaker 1: today classroom behavior crisis needs strong leadership and parent support,
[14:25] Speaker 1: says one of the experts. The Flinders University expert said
[14:29] Speaker 1: the bile serious behaviors such as physical and verbal threats
[14:31] Speaker 1: were more significant as individual events. Constant distractions drained teachers
[14:37] Speaker 1: energy levels and lead to many leaving the profession. The
[14:40] Speaker 1: article went on to say the vast majority of teachers
[14:43] Speaker 1: eighty five percent, so there's spend too much time dealing
[14:45] Speaker 1: with student behavior, according to a twenty twenty five Education
[14:49] Speaker 1: Union study of thirteen thousand public educators. Now again, do
[14:56] Speaker 1: I want a system where we're going to go back
[14:58] Speaker 1: and you know six of the best. No, it's not
[15:00] Speaker 1: going to happen. But have we got to a scenario
[15:03] Speaker 1: now where yet again, the right of the student supersedes
[15:08] Speaker 1: the right of every other student to have a calm
[15:10] Speaker 1: work learning environment, that the right of the teacher to
[15:14] Speaker 1: be able to have a controllable classroom, and that their
[15:18] Speaker 1: power to do so is being supported. No, because in
[15:22] Speaker 1: many cases, in too many cases, parents rather than just
[15:26] Speaker 1: trusting what the teacher has said about their behavior. And again,
[15:29] Speaker 1: when I was in trouble, it didn't matter what my
[15:30] Speaker 1: excuse was. Teacher said I did the wrong thing. Parents
[15:33] Speaker 1: back the teacher. When our parents don't back the teacher.
[15:37] Speaker 1: Too many parents view school as something like a lubemobile
[15:42] Speaker 1: that's there just to fix the problems and move on.
[15:45] Speaker 1: The reality is is that education is a collaborative process.
[15:48] Speaker 1: Homework matters, the attitude inside the house matteres. Now, if
[15:52] Speaker 1: I've got this perfect with my kid, tell no why,
[15:54] Speaker 1: because no one is perfect, right, But I want to
[15:57] Speaker 1: make sure that a teacher has maximum power to be
[16:00] Speaker 1: able to control a classroom. Everything from being able to
[16:04] Speaker 1: boot a kid out, suspend a kid, take the headphones
[16:08] Speaker 1: off their ears, to be able to speak sternly, to
[16:11] Speaker 1: be able to tell them to go to the other
[16:12] Speaker 1: end of the room without fearing that somehow they're going
[16:16] Speaker 1: to end up being complained about by a parent who's
[16:19] Speaker 1: going to view the teacher as the problem, not the
[16:22] Speaker 1: kid as a problem in this moment. And it is
[16:26] Speaker 1: rare that I would reach to the Union to give
[16:30] Speaker 1: unfettered access to our airwaves to talk about case studies.
[16:34] Speaker 1: But today they released a thing about teachers' aides. These
[16:37] Speaker 1: are the people who, of course are helping teachers. They're
[16:40] Speaker 1: not fully fledged educators yet, but helping teachers in part
[16:45] Speaker 1: controller classroom or create better learning environments for our kids.
[16:49] Speaker 1: These are some of the case studies. This is what
[16:52] Speaker 1: is happening in classrooms. Okay, Now this is specifically focused
[16:56] Speaker 1: on Queensland. But it's around the country. I've had staff
[17:00] Speaker 1: witness me being punched in the head. I've been kicked, hit, slapped,
[17:05] Speaker 1: and bitten. It's a daily occurrence of seeing teacher's aids
[17:09] Speaker 1: hit and pushed by children in front of the class.
[17:12] Speaker 1: Seeing how all the other kids in class flinch, cry
[17:16] Speaker 1: and have their hands over their ears when these situations
[17:18] Speaker 1: occur is heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking. Another one, this one
[17:23] Speaker 1: from a special school. I've had two concussions. I've been
[17:27] Speaker 1: spat on. I had poof flung in me. The student
[17:30] Speaker 1: sucked his blood and spat it at me. Recently, I
[17:35] Speaker 1: was punched in the head. The student broke my prescription glasses.
[17:37] Speaker 1: It's not okay, and I struggle to go back. Why
[17:40] Speaker 1: wouldn't you? This is not reasonable for anyone, so reasonable
[17:43] Speaker 1: from prison guard, let alone somebody who's helping out kids,
[17:47] Speaker 1: particularly ones who need the extra help. Another one from
[17:50] Speaker 1: a special school. From the day I started nine years ago,
[17:54] Speaker 1: Occupational violence and aggression has been a main part of
[17:57] Speaker 1: my job. I've had it come in the form of physical, verbal, psychological,
[18:03] Speaker 1: and emotional abuse, and it happens daily. The violence and
[18:06] Speaker 1: aggression takes its toll. It seems that we're expected to
[18:09] Speaker 1: take this. It's what we signed up for. Although I
[18:12] Speaker 1: have not been hospitalized, I've had many days off due
[18:15] Speaker 1: to injuries. Now, to put this very simply, classroom behavior
[18:22] Speaker 1: is one of the absolute basics, like say, potholes that
[18:26] Speaker 1: need to be fixed, And you can't blame people for
[18:30] Speaker 1: not trusting state government when there's a hole in every
[18:35] Speaker 1: second road. Look at what's been happening in Victoria where
[18:38] Speaker 1: the roads are shocking. But the government says we're spending
[18:40] Speaker 1: more than ever before. Really, where's it going. We're spending
[18:44] Speaker 1: more money on education than ever before. Well, the results
[18:46] Speaker 1: are going backwards, and by global standards, the quality of
[18:50] Speaker 1: education because of the teacher's inability to have the power
[18:54] Speaker 1: to control their classroom for fear of what the parents
[18:57] Speaker 1: might do, is not acceptable. Now, very simply, I don't
[19:02] Speaker 1: want kids to end up because of what happens in
[19:05] Speaker 1: the classroom, to begin getting exposed to the criminal justice
[19:09] Speaker 1: system and then of course leading into a world of
[19:12] Speaker 1: juvenile detention. But there has to be very serious, an
[19:16] Speaker 1: instant repercussions. If somebody assaults somebody in a school, there
[19:25] Speaker 1: has to be the capacity for authorities to get involved.
[19:30] Speaker 1: There has to be buying from parents. And yes, there
[19:32] Speaker 1: has to be investment from government to re empower teachers
[19:39] Speaker 1: in the classroom. This shouldn't cost a lot of money.
[19:43] Speaker 1: It is about an attitude change. It is about making
[19:45] Speaker 1: sure that the right of every other kid in the
[19:48] Speaker 1: class to learn in a classroom is just as important
[19:52] Speaker 1: as the individual kid who, for whatever reason takes things
[19:56] Speaker 1: way too far. Talking about it, I know it's not
[20:01] Speaker 1: a front page story, but this is the future of
[20:03] Speaker 1: our country and that's why we keep talking about it.
[20:07] Speaker 1: Meantime to Victoria and of course the new Premier, Ben Carroll,
[20:10] Speaker 1: is less than a week into the job, and of course,
[20:13] Speaker 1: well I wasn't able to talk about all of the
[20:15] Speaker 1: drama on the day because we were doing that excellent
[20:17] Speaker 1: to Pauline Hanson, please explain show a couple of days ago.
[20:21] Speaker 1: But one thing that is very clear is that we
[20:24] Speaker 1: don't really know what Ben Carroll is going to be about,
[20:26] Speaker 1: but he loves to tell us what he's not about,
[20:28] Speaker 1: for example, exhibit A.
[20:31] Speaker 10: Let me make one thing very clear, I am not
[20:36] Speaker 10: Daniel Andrews. I am not just Ciner Allen.
[20:41] Speaker 1: Example B of what he's not going to do as premiere.
[20:51] Speaker 10: I have nothing to say on that, and that is
[20:53] Speaker 10: not a priority of mine. He's not a priority of mine.
[20:58] Speaker 1: And today when he could have said an answer, he
[21:02] Speaker 1: again gave no answer, which seems to be the way
[21:07] Speaker 1: he's trying to turn around the fortunes of the government.
[21:18] Speaker 10: I've got no announcements to make today. What i can say,
[21:23] Speaker 10: he said, every dollar of my government will be invested
[21:27] Speaker 10: where it delivers the greatest value for victorious.
[21:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. Will we take him over Andrews and Allen? Yes?
[21:34] Speaker 1: Will I give him the benefit of the doubt about
[21:36] Speaker 1: his ability or wants to change? Sure? Is he hitting
[21:40] Speaker 1: the ground running with change? No? And in part all
[21:44] Speaker 1: of this goes back to the very day that he
[21:46] Speaker 1: became the premier. Now you remember how crazy it was
[21:50] Speaker 1: that the cameras literally were a meter away from the
[21:53] Speaker 1: party room when it was meeting, so much so that
[21:56] Speaker 1: people could literally hear what was going on, including raised
[21:59] Speaker 1: voice and all the rest of it. Well, of course,
[22:02] Speaker 1: the consequence of c Cintra Allen losing the premiership is
[22:07] Speaker 1: that many of her favorites, expecting to be moved on
[22:10] Speaker 1: by a new premier, have decided to move themselves on
[22:12] Speaker 1: and not just resigning from cabinet, but they will quit
[22:15] Speaker 1: at the next election. Now again, the voters, based off
[22:17] Speaker 1: the current polls, would make the decision to get rid
[22:19] Speaker 1: of them anyway, but a couple of the key ones
[22:22] Speaker 1: have decided to get out of the way. But I
[22:24] Speaker 1: want to go back to the day where all of
[22:27] Speaker 1: this took place. I want to go back to the
[22:31] Speaker 1: twoing and throwing that went on for two hours. Now.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Remember cinder Allen had resigned in the nine o'clock hour,
[22:39] Speaker 1: the party met in the ten o'clock hour, and Parliament
[22:42] Speaker 1: resumed at midday. So what should have been a fifteen
[22:45] Speaker 1: to twenty thirty minute process dragged all the way out
[22:49] Speaker 1: and people were frustrated. Remember during the live coverage.
[22:53] Speaker 10: As the only declared candidate, it was meant to be
[22:56] Speaker 10: Ben Carroll's coronation.
[22:58] Speaker 1: Instead it descended to chaos.
[23:01] Speaker 7: There has been shouting and yelling inside the Labor Caucus
[23:05] Speaker 7: meeting as they decide on the party's next leadership in Victoria.
[23:09] Speaker 1: And all of this was because in the ugliest leadership
[23:13] Speaker 1: transition since Turnbull. And remember how disastrous that was, as
[23:18] Speaker 1: he demanded all of the names that he could have
[23:20] Speaker 1: by his bedside, and surprise, surprise, what did so many
[23:23] Speaker 1: of the scandals post his leadership involving liberal MPs all
[23:27] Speaker 1: have in common. They all happened to be on the list,
[23:30] Speaker 1: and she wanted her own version of this and rather
[23:33] Speaker 1: than the bloke who clearly had the majority of the room. Well,
[23:37] Speaker 1: because of course if there was a contested leadership then
[23:39] Speaker 1: it was going to go on for weeks and that
[23:41] Speaker 1: would plunge into further chaos. The person who went on
[23:44] Speaker 1: to say I'm a team player was actually propping up
[23:49] Speaker 1: somebody else to be a candidate to essentially take hostages
[23:55] Speaker 1: in the meeting that MPs couldn't leave and they didn't
[23:58] Speaker 1: have their phones in it, any of the factional power
[24:00] Speaker 1: brokers couldn't get involved, So essentially there was a standoff
[24:04] Speaker 1: between the bloke who had the majority support in the
[24:07] Speaker 1: room and a rump of people who wanted to make
[24:09] Speaker 1: it as hard as possible for him to ascend to
[24:12] Speaker 1: the premiership. And principally Sonya kill Kenny, who is the
[24:17] Speaker 1: Attorney General among other things, was the one who was
[24:20] Speaker 1: going to stand up and was going to be the
[24:23] Speaker 1: alternative candidate. Now she had nowhere near support in the room,
[24:26] Speaker 1: but she had enough names to get onto a ballot
[24:28] Speaker 1: to eventually drag out a process for weeks. Well, guess
[24:31] Speaker 1: what we learn today is that essentially that party room
[24:34] Speaker 1: meeting was a hostage taking exercise. Ya the Herald's son,
[24:39] Speaker 1: they're reporting and our James Campbell here their old son
[24:42] Speaker 1: can reveal that mister Carroll's rival during the leadership spill
[24:45] Speaker 1: a staunch just into Alan ally Sonya kil Kenny received
[24:48] Speaker 1: a written agreement that she could retain her two ministerial
[24:52] Speaker 1: portfolios in a cabinet reshuffle. So unless I can keep
[24:56] Speaker 1: my job, unless you guarantee my job, I will plunge
[25:01] Speaker 1: the Labor Party into chaos. The sign deal, which was
[25:04] Speaker 1: structures minutes before the dramatic two hour long caucus meeting,
[25:09] Speaker 1: was completed. It compelled miss Kenny to of course drop
[25:13] Speaker 1: her bid for the leadership. This is a hostage negotiation.
[25:18] Speaker 1: Give me the Attorney General's job or else, and or
[25:23] Speaker 1: else was chaos for the party. One Labor in Peace
[25:26] Speaker 1: said the deal is a disaster because miss kill Kenny
[25:29] Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed to hold the new government's agenda to hostage.
[25:34] Speaker 1: They questioned miss kill Kenny whether she'd be able to
[25:36] Speaker 1: actually be the Chief Law Officer because of course she
[25:39] Speaker 1: is the Center Allen ally, not the Ben Carroll reset quote.
[25:44] Speaker 1: She is so out of step with what Ben wants
[25:46] Speaker 1: to do as Attorney General. And just to remind you
[25:49] Speaker 1: of just how loyal a soldier she was to Center Allan,
[25:54] Speaker 1: we've got to go back via more edeeming. I know,
[25:57] Speaker 1: remember when all of that was up in the air,
[25:59] Speaker 1: the first couple of it. And of course, despite the
[26:02] Speaker 1: fact that we all know how it ended, this is
[26:04] Speaker 1: how she acted. And she is the Attorney General who
[26:07] Speaker 1: gets to keep her job because of the hostage negotiation
[26:11] Speaker 1: that was the transition from Allan to Carol.
[26:15] Speaker 11: When did Jess Wilson first become aware of these allegations?
[26:21] Speaker 11: Is it appropriate that the alleged offender sits in her
[26:25] Speaker 11: party room? And finally, Jess Wilson, is it your view
[26:30] Speaker 11: that these allegations are completely fictitious?
[26:35] Speaker 1: We all know what ended up happening. That's her shooting
[26:38] Speaker 1: from the hip, overtly political, overtly left wing political, overtly
[26:42] Speaker 1: loyal to the premiere. And now she's going to be
[26:45] Speaker 1: sitting around a cabinet table. And while it would be
[26:48] Speaker 1: grossly inappropriate to suggest that she could be the source
[26:50] Speaker 1: of any future leaking from the Carol cabinet. There are
[26:53] Speaker 1: others that are very loyal to Alan. So let's see
[26:57] Speaker 1: just how tight is a drama and how team player
[26:59] Speaker 1: it all is, or if we can see the fault
[27:03] Speaker 1: lines that will lead to the inevitable loss of Labor
[27:07] Speaker 1: as they should receive in the November election. More in
[27:11] Speaker 1: a sec plenty to discuss, including winners and losers of
[27:13] Speaker 1: the week. Colin Flynn before we are done, we'll do
[27:15] Speaker 1: some again while you were working, and you've got to
[27:18] Speaker 1: talk about Dr Faunci what about that nonsense? Today? Just
[27:21] Speaker 1: getting started here. Thanks for watching Thursday night here Paul
[27:23] Speaker 1: Murray live on News twenty four, thank you very much
[27:30] Speaker 1: for watching.
[27:31] Speaker 12: Well.
[27:31] Speaker 1: Plenty people in Armadale, by the way, Roscadell National Center
[27:34] Speaker 1: of News as well as they were singing your praises.
[27:36] Speaker 1: I think that you've been through there not so recently,
[27:38] Speaker 1: and they were big fans of yours. So Armadale goodtown
[27:40] Speaker 1: for you, Joe Hildebrand. While they always speak kindly of you.
[27:43] Speaker 13: Don't yes exactly right.
[27:45] Speaker 1: So I've got to bring this up for you, which
[27:47] Speaker 1: is why can't the Labor Party let a lie go?
[27:50] Speaker 1: Two judges have said no political cover up in and
[27:53] Speaker 1: around matters to do with Britney Higgins way back when. Okay,
[27:56] Speaker 1: we have seen the settlement now of a keep up
[28:00] Speaker 1: public servant again who offered all of the help, all
[28:02] Speaker 1: the rest of it. Here it has been to me
[28:04] Speaker 1: demonstrably proven. And again those two judges have been very
[28:08] Speaker 1: clear about the political cover up bit. But Katie Gallaher
[28:11] Speaker 1: cannot let the lie go, I say the lie because
[28:14] Speaker 1: of previous evidence again in those particularly the Reynolds case.
[28:18] Speaker 1: But here she was this morning on Taxpayer Radio.
[28:21] Speaker 14: The Commonwealth has settled a workplace lawsuit brought by A
[28:25] Speaker 14: Fiona Brown in relation to the Britney Higgins allegations. Do
[28:29] Speaker 14: you and other senior members of labor have any regrets
[28:31] Speaker 14: over the way that you handled that matter and the
[28:34] Speaker 14: allegations that were around at that time?
[28:36] Speaker 4: I think the questions we asked during that time were
[28:39] Speaker 4: entirely appropriate.
[28:43] Speaker 1: Joe, how hard is this? I mean, honestly, how hard
[28:45] Speaker 1: is this? And I get you know, you hold up
[28:47] Speaker 1: and holding the lines a great thing. I was surprised
[28:50] Speaker 1: that the home game of the ABC was willing to
[28:52] Speaker 1: ask the question, but I'm glad they did. Ye, Why
[28:55] Speaker 1: can't they say, perhaps we went too hard, we went
[28:57] Speaker 1: a little bit too early. Reality is we were operating
[29:00] Speaker 1: without all the full informat. There's a whole bunch of
[29:02] Speaker 1: waes to get off the horse, but they're just saying nah, Yeah.
[29:06] Speaker 13: I've been thinking a lot about this, especially which I
[29:08] Speaker 13: think was one of Labour's darkest hours, because I and
[29:11] Speaker 13: others could see that this was developing into a full
[29:14] Speaker 13: throated witch hunt, that the facts just weren't stacking up
[29:19] Speaker 13: to the claims that were being made. Anyone reasonable could
[29:22] Speaker 13: see that. Anyone who hadn't fully drunk the kool aid
[29:26] Speaker 13: could see that. But it seemed like everyone else was
[29:28] Speaker 13: on some kind of crystal meth that was just driving
[29:31] Speaker 13: them towards ever more frenzied accuation.
[29:34] Speaker 1: And it looked really scary.
[29:35] Speaker 13: And it's that horrible mob mentality that leads to the
[29:38] Speaker 13: greatest damage. And it is the obviously the left that
[29:43] Speaker 13: and the hard left and hard right that will pick
[29:46] Speaker 13: it up and run with it. And you see the left,
[29:48] Speaker 13: and I don't think it's any coincidence that the left
[29:51] Speaker 13: fell for this most hook line scene. And I think
[29:54] Speaker 13: it's what happens. And I've talked to a lot of
[29:56] Speaker 13: my friends in the right of all over party about
[29:58] Speaker 13: this issue more broadly, because what happens when you become
[30:01] Speaker 13: so captive to an ideology that basically you just apply
[30:06] Speaker 13: whatever the theory is to the world. So if you
[30:10] Speaker 13: go around things we're all men a rapists or believe
[30:12] Speaker 13: all women, or you know that every right wing man,
[30:16] Speaker 13: every right wing man is basically you know, secretly approves
[30:20] Speaker 13: of sexual assault, then of course you are going to
[30:23] Speaker 13: see all these things there when the normal saying human
[30:27] Speaker 13: being cannot And it is the same thing. It's the
[30:29] Speaker 13: same way that Justina Allan can say with a straight
[30:31] Speaker 13: face that she leads Victoria in great shape, or that
[30:35] Speaker 13: she's you know, that she's going to fully support she's
[30:37] Speaker 13: going to fully support Ben Carroll and then put her
[30:40] Speaker 13: name to the biggest dog act of the posthumous sabotage
[30:45] Speaker 13: that I have ever seen. I mean, that was the
[30:46] Speaker 13: lowest act I think that I can remember seeing in
[30:49] Speaker 13: any branch of the Labor Party. And again it is
[30:52] Speaker 13: people who think, well, you know, the world's not matching
[30:55] Speaker 13: up to what the ideology says.
[30:57] Speaker 1: If she would be, and therefore burn it to I
[31:00] Speaker 1: mean ross, you see how these people behave and you
[31:02] Speaker 1: see how and again I understand you know the basics
[31:05] Speaker 1: of politics, right, which is that sometimes defense is the
[31:07] Speaker 1: best form of attack. Sometimes you know there's out and
[31:09] Speaker 1: about attack. This always went too far. It always had
[31:14] Speaker 1: all of this sort of land mines around it, where
[31:16] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people somehow thought because you were
[31:18] Speaker 1: saying this about the politics of it, you were saying
[31:20] Speaker 1: that about the allegation of it. All of course not true,
[31:23] Speaker 1: that many things can be happening at the same time.
[31:25] Speaker 1: But you see this in relation to how they answer questions,
[31:28] Speaker 1: how they don't answer questions on notice, this is a
[31:32] Speaker 1: little to me litmus test of the arrogance and the
[31:36] Speaker 1: way that they play.
[31:39] Speaker 12: Well.
[31:39] Speaker 15: You know, John Paul, you have to understand the far
[31:42] Speaker 15: left is smarter than us in every way. They could
[31:45] Speaker 15: live our lives better than us. Can I for one,
[31:48] Speaker 15: except that they know everything to do better than us,
[31:50] Speaker 15: and I need the lessons they can give. This is
[31:53] Speaker 15: the way they treat through after that, if you have
[31:55] Speaker 15: a divergent view, it is this solidarity in the power
[31:58] Speaker 15: of the group that if you have any different view,
[32:00] Speaker 15: you are wrong. You need to be labeled, you need
[32:02] Speaker 15: to be villified. You need to be attacked and it
[32:05] Speaker 15: has educated Joanna Brown was a re education camp. That'll
[32:10] Speaker 15: be next, That'll be you know, you talked about money
[32:13] Speaker 15: on education or be re education soon.
[32:15] Speaker 1: But this is where we go.
[32:16] Speaker 15: You had a brand paid a real price. You know.
[32:19] Speaker 15: She has suffered greatly both at our hands and and
[32:21] Speaker 15: Labour's hands because of this. And there are real consequences
[32:25] Speaker 15: to when you play these games in every way, shape
[32:27] Speaker 15: and form. And we have to be better than this
[32:29] Speaker 15: as a group, as a class. And it is when
[32:32] Speaker 15: anyone believes that their pooh doesn't feel they get this entitlement,
[32:35] Speaker 15: they get this way, and it becomes this way. It's
[32:38] Speaker 15: just horrible.
[32:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, with it all right now. Because the government, the
[32:42] Speaker 1: Labor government does not control the Upper House in New
[32:45] Speaker 1: South Wales, well, they occasionally have to deal with there
[32:48] Speaker 1: some things that are not quite to the narrative the
[32:51] Speaker 1: government wants, i e. Parliamentary inquiries often end up with
[32:55] Speaker 1: more people who disagree with the government than the government,
[32:58] Speaker 1: which means every now and then just a little crack
[33:00] Speaker 1: of truth gets to actually roll out against the spin machine. Right.
[33:04] Speaker 1: I speak here of a parliamentary committee which was chaired
[33:06] Speaker 1: by the Shudis Fishers and Farmers Party in New South
[33:09] Speaker 1: Wales and it has, among other things, well basically found
[33:12] Speaker 1: a railroading process in the rollout of renewable energy. Now again,
[33:16] Speaker 1: none of this is new to those that are living
[33:17] Speaker 1: at those of us that have watched on or anyone
[33:19] Speaker 1: who watches this program. But the parliamentary inquiry has found
[33:23] Speaker 1: the state's energy body prioritize the rapid rollout of renewable
[33:26] Speaker 1: energy zones to the detriment of regional communities. Sixteen recommendations,
[33:30] Speaker 1: including stronger accountability measures, better community consultation. Now ross again.
[33:36] Speaker 1: All the arguments here are well prosecuted, well known to
[33:39] Speaker 1: everyone here. But finally a report that leads credence to
[33:45] Speaker 1: the reality of many people in the bush, which generally
[33:48] Speaker 1: speaking is ignored by the big end of town saying
[33:52] Speaker 1: there is no evidence of your claims. Well now there
[33:54] Speaker 1: is about the ram roading of this in regional Australia.
[34:02] Speaker 15: And well done to the New Southwuers uphouse for getting
[34:04] Speaker 15: this inquiry up. And you know, credit to another political
[34:06] Speaker 15: party for mark for the findings. We tried, Richard Colebeck
[34:10] Speaker 15: and I moved twelve times in the Senate to try
[34:12] Speaker 15: and get inquired in the same thing, and the greens
[34:15] Speaker 15: weren't moving and labor wasn't giving it to us. Allison McPhee,
[34:18] Speaker 15: who is one of the chief protagonist, is a great friend.
[34:21] Speaker 15: Her family farm. You know, number of generations. They'll have
[34:25] Speaker 15: to drop their cattle numbers on the farm. They'll do
[34:27] Speaker 15: this for no real reason. This is a res that
[34:31] Speaker 15: if we get in in New South Wales, if the
[34:33] Speaker 15: coal can get in, they will stop in the transmission line,
[34:36] Speaker 15: they will stop that res with the projects they've got.
[34:38] Speaker 15: It is not needed this plan. We should be building
[34:41] Speaker 15: more power close to the cities, and it is only
[34:44] Speaker 15: going through because there is no ability to look into it.
[34:47] Speaker 15: We don't know what this thing's going to cost. We
[34:48] Speaker 15: can't have these inquiries, we can't get the answers. Of
[34:51] Speaker 15: course we go back to the same thing. You know,
[34:53] Speaker 15: Bowen's the smartest energy minister in the world again, because
[34:56] Speaker 15: he is doing these things and we can't get there.
[34:57] Speaker 15: There needs to be some better look at this.
[35:00] Speaker 1: Again, my nuanced position on this, and I know that
[35:02] Speaker 1: as soon as you get towards the gray somehow you
[35:04] Speaker 1: are not believe it in one way or the other. Right,
[35:06] Speaker 1: my whole argument about all of this was acknowledged, the
[35:09] Speaker 1: cost of transition, ignore and acknowledge the disruption, and don't
[35:14] Speaker 1: expect somebody in another suburb to do what you wouldn't
[35:17] Speaker 1: be willing to do your suburb. Now very obviously all
[35:20] Speaker 1: of those things have now proven to be the way
[35:22] Speaker 1: they are. But again this sort of arrogance to just
[35:25] Speaker 1: keep rolling on and again when we're in Armadale, people
[35:27] Speaker 1: coming up and out of desperation looking at you in
[35:30] Speaker 1: the eye saying, mate, this has happened to me, this
[35:32] Speaker 1: thing that I can't I'm trying to call somebody. They won't.
[35:35] Speaker 1: There's just this steam roller. And again they can't forcibly
[35:40] Speaker 1: put these things on people's properties, but they don't really
[35:44] Speaker 1: care if you object if somebody is doing it.
[35:46] Speaker 13: On the Yeah, it's interesting you say Armadale because I
[35:49] Speaker 13: remember and it was really it really stuck with me
[35:51] Speaker 13: doing the New Scot Bush Summit in Tamworth, which of
[35:54] Speaker 13: course the sister city of Armadale and the Northern Tablelands
[35:58] Speaker 13: in New England, and there was just white height. Obviously,
[36:01] Speaker 13: Barnaby Joyce great Gate crash the event and we got
[36:05] Speaker 13: him up on stage and there and that's because there
[36:07] Speaker 13: were farmers sort of baying for blood over wind turbines
[36:12] Speaker 13: and transmission lines going over their properties. And I hosted
[36:16] Speaker 13: one or two sort of discussions along these lines, and
[36:20] Speaker 13: and it was very clear that the community had said, look,
[36:23] Speaker 13: if the companies had just come here, engaged with us,
[36:27] Speaker 13: become part of the community, and joined it. Where that
[36:29] Speaker 13: had happened, there actually wasn't much of a problem. Where
[36:32] Speaker 13: the country the company come in said right, okay, we
[36:34] Speaker 13: know where disrupting things a bit, but we've got some
[36:37] Speaker 13: money for your local footy team, and we're going to
[36:39] Speaker 13: help them, and we're going to bring this you know,
[36:41] Speaker 13: that's good for the economy. We're going to you know,
[36:43] Speaker 13: blah blah blah blah. And when it has just sort
[36:46] Speaker 13: of come in over the top, that's when people got
[36:49] Speaker 13: really really anxious and and freaked them out. And it
[36:52] Speaker 13: would if something suddenly, something just popped up in your
[36:54] Speaker 13: backyard and you had no idea it was coming, you
[36:56] Speaker 13: would lose your mind and be furious. So I think
[36:59] Speaker 13: there's that. But I think the other problem, of course,
[37:01] Speaker 13: is that the government probably cannot or definitely probably won't
[37:07] Speaker 13: meet its targets anyway, but definitely cannot meet them unless
[37:10] Speaker 13: it goes full steam ahead and just pushes everything through.
[37:13] Speaker 13: So because the targets are as ambitious as they are,
[37:17] Speaker 13: it's almost like they can't afford to do the one
[37:19] Speaker 13: thing they need to do to get green energy.
[37:22] Speaker 1: And critical making, you know, ross myself yourself to a degree,
[37:26] Speaker 1: people watching what we've all sort of said, okay, cool,
[37:28] Speaker 1: So maybe if this is the path, the speed of
[37:30] Speaker 1: the path matters, the cost of the path matters, the
[37:32] Speaker 1: disruption of the path matters. But alas just know, the
[37:35] Speaker 1: only thing that matters use the path target and the
[37:37] Speaker 1: absolute inevitably of the inevitability of the target. Now, I
[37:42] Speaker 1: want to talk about somebody who probably most people watching
[37:45] Speaker 1: the show won't know about, but it's an example of
[37:47] Speaker 1: how the wider media works. Right now, You know that
[37:51] Speaker 1: people you'd never heard of all suddenly started to appear
[37:54] Speaker 1: in the media and eventually ended up running as the
[37:56] Speaker 1: Tiffany Teils right along the way was literally the ABC
[37:59] Speaker 1: riding along in the car with them. As first they
[38:01] Speaker 1: challenged Tony Abbott, and then and then and then and
[38:03] Speaker 1: then now another version of this right, but supposedly it's
[38:07] Speaker 1: coming from the left to the left. But I think
[38:09] Speaker 1: there's something else to this now. Hannah Ferguson is a
[38:12] Speaker 1: very significant figure on social media and new media, has
[38:15] Speaker 1: a lot of followers, young people, but you know, hardcore
[38:18] Speaker 1: lefty all the rest of them. Now, she had previously
[38:20] Speaker 1: said that she was going to run as an independent
[38:22] Speaker 1: Senate candidate, but that might be too much hard work
[38:24] Speaker 1: and there's no chance of getting a statewide vote, so
[38:26] Speaker 1: she's decided the way that she will show she is
[38:28] Speaker 1: more pure than anyone else is to run against a
[38:30] Speaker 1: bloke that she's no chance of beating, that being the
[38:33] Speaker 1: Prime Minister in his seat in the center of Sydney
[38:37] Speaker 1: in and around Marrickville, right, And she says that she
[38:40] Speaker 1: wants to do it because the system has facilitated the
[38:43] Speaker 1: success of Pauline Hansen, so the reason she's running against
[38:47] Speaker 1: Albo is to stop Pauline. And again she's doing it
[38:51] Speaker 1: in a nice, safe, little Sydney pocket with lots of
[38:53] Speaker 1: Sydney media Guardian ABC talking her along. No real chance
[38:57] Speaker 1: of becoming an MP, meaning she gets to have the
[39:00] Speaker 1: cake and eat it too, which is not really put
[39:02] Speaker 1: effort into a job that she's not going to get,
[39:04] Speaker 1: but the media will lift her profile as a result
[39:06] Speaker 1: of simply running. This is an old trick FM radio
[39:09] Speaker 1: people used to do when they said that they were
[39:11] Speaker 1: running for the Senate Club. Veg did this in the eighties.
[39:15] Speaker 13: I could not get through that column without vomiting in
[39:18] Speaker 13: my mouth.
[39:19] Speaker 1: For the guests, she wrote out cold column for the Guardian.
[39:21] Speaker 13: Firstly, if you have to write a column for the
[39:23] Speaker 13: Guardian explaining why you are running, that is not a
[39:26] Speaker 13: good reason. If you take that many words to explain
[39:29] Speaker 13: and to fend off all the inevitable and completely correct
[39:32] Speaker 13: criticism that this is an idiotic idea that absolutely makes
[39:35] Speaker 13: no sense, then that means you've already failed.
[39:40] Speaker 1: In the argument calories about a racism.
[39:43] Speaker 13: But it's like, okay, So firstly, your contention is that
[39:46] Speaker 13: Albow deliberately presided over, or created or facilitator system which
[39:52] Speaker 13: drove heaps of people over to one nation. Now, if
[39:55] Speaker 13: anything the Left is done to drive people to the
[39:59] Speaker 13: arms of what Paul and hands and it is to
[40:00] Speaker 13: become woke over privileged inner city toss bags like I
[40:05] Speaker 13: dare say Hannah, you also, if you are really concerned
[40:09] Speaker 13: about the rise of one nation and arresting it, why
[40:12] Speaker 13: don't you run in a seat that one nation actually
[40:16] Speaker 13: might win well or stop them from getting it, instead
[40:19] Speaker 13: of running against the Prime minister who is trying to
[40:22] Speaker 13: fight one nation and stop working class voters from fleeing
[40:25] Speaker 13: to it. Because the only reason you're running against the
[40:27] Speaker 13: prime minister, it's the same reason I suspect you've done
[40:30] Speaker 13: most things in your life is because you know that
[40:32] Speaker 13: that will get you the most publicity. It is a
[40:35] Speaker 13: disgraceful act. It is an act of gross treachery from
[40:38] Speaker 13: the left, and it is also absolutely idiotic.
[40:41] Speaker 1: Well, and of course she's now got a click, she
[40:43] Speaker 1: got News twenty fours talking about it. All right, thank
[40:45] Speaker 1: you very much, thank you sending it if you just
[40:46] Speaker 1: said the hard way, all right, quick breakback with more
[40:49] Speaker 1: Colin fleeting is next. This is interesting one nation news
[40:58] Speaker 1: that is floating around as we speak, double ict and
[41:00] Speaker 1: all the confirm it on a before we had done.
[41:02] Speaker 1: But till then, the wonderful Colin Flinn joins us now
[41:05] Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. Is new home in the United States.
[41:07] Speaker 1: With this, so much to talk about, including Gaelic football.
[41:10] Speaker 1: My friend.
[41:11] Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, Paul, great to join you on News twenty
[41:14] Speaker 8: four and I hope you're doing well. This is a
[41:17] Speaker 8: great sporting story from my home country of Ireland. This
[41:20] Speaker 8: is something that they're going to be talking about for
[41:22] Speaker 8: years to come. We just had our All Ireland Hurling Final.
[41:26] Speaker 8: Now in Ireland we have two big sporting events, the
[41:29] Speaker 8: All Ireland Hurling Final and then the Gaelic Football. The
[41:33] Speaker 8: big counties that were going head to head in this
[41:36] Speaker 8: final County Kerry which is in the southwestern, County Mayo,
[41:39] Speaker 8: which is in the northwest. Here's the difference poll. County
[41:42] Speaker 8: Kerry are reigning champions, defending champions. In fact, they're record holders.
[41:46] Speaker 8: They've wanted a total of thirty nine times. They are
[41:50] Speaker 8: the champions. County Mayo on the other hand, Pol well,
[41:54] Speaker 8: they haven't won a final since nineteen fifty one. That's
[41:57] Speaker 8: a seventy five year famine. And what makes us even
[42:00] Speaker 8: more interesting is that, of course Kerry were the favorites.
[42:03] Speaker 8: People were backing them. They all packed into the stadium,
[42:06] Speaker 8: eighty two thousand people to watch this game in Croke Park.
[42:09] Speaker 8: But it being Ireland, of course there was a legend.
[42:12] Speaker 8: There's always a legend, and the legend was that the
[42:14] Speaker 8: team Mayo hadn't won since nineteen fifty one because of
[42:17] Speaker 8: a curse. And the story goes that when they did
[42:20] Speaker 8: win then and they were traveling from Dublin back to Mayo,
[42:23] Speaker 8: they were going to a small town called Foxford, and
[42:26] Speaker 8: there was a funeral on at the time, and the
[42:28] Speaker 8: local parish priest, Paul, was so disgusted at the Mayo
[42:32] Speaker 8: team making so much noise and celebrating and being so
[42:36] Speaker 8: disrespectful as he saw that he placed a curse on
[42:39] Speaker 8: them in nineteen fifty one that they would never win
[42:42] Speaker 8: in All Ireland again until every member of that team
[42:45] Speaker 8: had died well in twenty twenty one, the last surviving
[42:48] Speaker 8: player he passed away, and this was their first time
[42:51] Speaker 8: in the final since then, so the pressure was enormous.
[42:55] Speaker 8: The whole country of Ireland was watching. And I'm going
[42:57] Speaker 8: to play a very short clip here. I just want
[42:59] Speaker 8: you to live. Poll to the commentator's voice at the
[43:02] Speaker 8: beginning of the game, and just to point out, the
[43:05] Speaker 8: pictures are from RTE, the national broadcaster, and the audio
[43:08] Speaker 8: is from Midwest Radio, the local radio station in County Mayo.
[43:11] Speaker 8: Listen to the commentator's voices. Here these fine tingling stuff
[43:16] Speaker 8: here and prow Park, Mayo and Kerry are ready to go.
[43:21] Speaker 8: So their Cam, it's the camp before the storm. Really,
[43:24] Speaker 8: the game kicks off, eighty two thousand people in the
[43:28] Speaker 8: stadium there in Dublin Croke Park, people watching all over
[43:31] Speaker 8: the country. It was a nail biting game and at
[43:34] Speaker 8: one point Mayo were five points ahead, then Carrie caught up.
[43:38] Speaker 8: It went down to the last thirty seconds when Mayo,
[43:41] Speaker 8: who haven't won in seventy five years, they were just
[43:44] Speaker 8: what we call one point ahead in the last thirty seconds.
[43:48] Speaker 8: If Kerry had scored a point, it would have pushed
[43:51] Speaker 8: it into extra time. If Carrie had scored a goal,
[43:54] Speaker 8: game over, they retained the championship. They are still the winners,
[43:58] Speaker 8: and that winning stream. He continues, it was an incredible
[44:03] Speaker 8: sporty moment. And just listen again to the commentator's voice
[44:06] Speaker 8: as they had lost their voice and were struggling to
[44:08] Speaker 8: stay on air as it went into the last few
[44:10] Speaker 8: seconds of the game and nation held its breath. Listen
[44:13] Speaker 8: to this dirty second time.
[44:17] Speaker 4: Second hold on right.
[44:21] Speaker 12: Right, We're twenty five years and thegether.
[44:25] Speaker 1: It's car he's got tell me tell me, conrads into
[44:29] Speaker 1: the He's.
[44:29] Speaker 13: Done till oh my God, send it all the time.
[44:37] Speaker 12: O my God, tell you it is telling you.
[44:42] Speaker 6: It's over to turn the second that fine seconds, trying
[44:46] Speaker 6: to play the family the times three times.
[44:55] Speaker 16: Oh my god, hold on match.
[45:01] Speaker 1: I had them swear bape in there as well, and
[45:03] Speaker 1: it wasn't close. It was a blowout. And they didn't
[45:06] Speaker 1: just get rid of the curse. They sent it to
[45:08] Speaker 1: wherever curses go.
[45:11] Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't that great? Seventy five years the curse has
[45:13] Speaker 8: been lifted. And by the way, if News twenty four
[45:15] Speaker 8: are looking for some commentators, those guys are available, they'll
[45:18] Speaker 8: come to Australia.
[45:19] Speaker 1: I love it, but it's this.
[45:21] Speaker 8: This story was a Joe Biden whose ancestral home is Mayo.
[45:25] Speaker 8: He sent out a congratulatory tweet people from all over
[45:28] Speaker 8: the world. In fact, the amazing thing is for a
[45:30] Speaker 8: country of just five million people, millions and millions of
[45:33] Speaker 8: more people have watched that clip online since everyone is
[45:36] Speaker 8: now went to Irish Gaelic football. But you know, Mayo
[45:39] Speaker 8: was a small part of Ireland in the northwest, as
[45:41] Speaker 8: I mentioned, and people there, Paul, they, as you can imagine,
[45:45] Speaker 8: they just went berserk. Look at this.
[46:01] Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much, Colin. We do appreciate it.
[46:03] Speaker 1: We'll see you again. Very soon. In fact, we'll see
[46:05] Speaker 1: you next week. Now I've just been able to double
[46:08] Speaker 1: check YEP and can now confirm. The breaking news tonight
[46:12] Speaker 1: is that on Monday, Paul and Hansen will be announcing
[46:16] Speaker 1: the team that she will be taking into the Victorian election.
[46:20] Speaker 1: The event is going to be an event that the
[46:23] Speaker 1: public will be able to attend. There's obviously a cost
[46:27] Speaker 1: for some who wish to be there. But again the
[46:29] Speaker 1: breaking news is that at an event in Hawthorne, and
[46:33] Speaker 1: this is going to be taking place on Monday, that
[46:36] Speaker 1: many of the Victorian Lower House and Upper House candidates
[46:41] Speaker 1: for One Nation. She previewed this with us in our conversation.
[46:44] Speaker 1: Well now confirmed it happens on Monday. Is when One Nation,
[46:50] Speaker 1: which is a very strong in many of the Poles
[46:52] Speaker 1: in Victoria formally by showing us their candidates, showing us
[46:56] Speaker 1: their leader, showing us their team while they get into
[46:59] Speaker 1: the fight in Victoria. Well, of course, made as many
[47:03] Speaker 1: as we can between now and November. Quick break back
[47:06] Speaker 1: with more here on Pomorray Life. Now we all know
[47:13] Speaker 1: the trauma, of course of COVID, what happened in twenty
[47:17] Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, how it changed the world, forever, and
[47:20] Speaker 1: the figure of doctor Fauci as sort of being the
[47:22] Speaker 1: chief expert of things in the United States just became
[47:25] Speaker 1: so infuriating. This blog loved the sound of his own voice,
[47:30] Speaker 1: including remember this, wear a mask, then you want it
[47:34] Speaker 1: to fit better.
[47:35] Speaker 12: So one of the ways you could do it, if
[47:37] Speaker 12: you would like to, is put a cloth mask, Oliver,
[47:40] Speaker 12: which actually here and here and here when you could
[47:45] Speaker 12: get leakagein is much better contained.
[47:49] Speaker 1: Just rubbish and tulsy Gabbott when she was, of course
[47:51] Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence, well in her last day,
[47:54] Speaker 1: she did this.
[47:55] Speaker 17: Today on my final day as Director of National Intelligence,
[47:59] Speaker 17: I'm really saying, never before seen communications and documents that
[48:04] Speaker 17: expose exactly how Fauci worked with politicized career leadership in
[48:09] Speaker 17: the intelligence community to suppress the truth about his actions,
[48:14] Speaker 17: the virus's lablique origins, and his role in directing US
[48:18] Speaker 17: funding for this dangerous research that caused immeasurable harm and
[48:23] Speaker 17: countless lost lives.
[48:25] Speaker 1: So, Whennie faced the US Senate today for to be
[48:28] Speaker 1: held accountable what happened.
[48:30] Speaker 16: Under the advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my
[48:34] Speaker 16: right under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain
[48:39] Speaker 16: from answering your questions. On the Advisive Council, I respectfully
[48:44] Speaker 16: decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth
[48:47] Speaker 16: Amendment of the Constitution. On the Advisive Council, I respectfully
[48:51] Speaker 16: declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth
[48:53] Speaker 16: Amendment to the Constitution. On the Advisive Council, I respectfully
[48:57] Speaker 16: declined to answer based upon my rights on the Fifth Amendment.
[49:01] Speaker 1: Including what colors your tire? What colors the carpet? What
[49:04] Speaker 1: a disgrace, But of course he was pardoned by Biden,
[49:06] Speaker 1: So nothing to see here. Please, that's our show for
[49:10] Speaker 1: the week, Thank you very much. Go Tigers, Go Yankees.
[49:11] Speaker 1: Here's the late debate

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