# Paul Murray Live | 27 January

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 27 Jan 2026, 50 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/ca8981a6-d892-4bf5-b034-b3df00bfdb87/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

More climate hysteria from the left, One Nation surge continues at pace. Plus, Brandan Koschel denied bail over alleged hate speech at March for Australia rally. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Problem the sky new setter. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:06] Speaker 1: Thank you James, right back at yo. Welcome to the
[0:09] Speaker 1: jous dab Man Cave for twenty twenty six. We've got
[0:12] Speaker 1: an awful lot of work to get to tonight, including
[0:14] Speaker 1: a brand new feature that is going to be exclusive
[0:17] Speaker 1: to Pull Murray Live that I guarantee will make news
[0:20] Speaker 1: every time we mention it. But speaking of for those
[0:23] Speaker 1: that are in the south of the country, it's hot.
[0:25] Speaker 1: It is damn hot in Victoria. There have been fires
[0:28] Speaker 1: in the southwest, the temperatures will they have got deep
[0:32] Speaker 1: into the forties. The news has of course gone wall
[0:36] Speaker 1: to wall because it was bloody hot today in summer
[0:40] Speaker 1: in Melbourne.
[0:41] Speaker 2: Record breaking heat and a bushfire emergency. Victoria has been
[0:45] Speaker 2: one of the hottest places on Earth today with temperatures
[0:49] Speaker 2: reaching close to fifty degrees when we did.
[0:52] Speaker 3: Tick over forty eight point nine degrees, a new record
[0:55] Speaker 3: for Victoria's we've seen in many places.
[0:58] Speaker 1: Good to see reporters in Regional Australia. But just a
[1:00] Speaker 1: little reminder, it's why we do our town. The first
[1:02] Speaker 1: one's coming up in a couple of weeks time. But
[1:05] Speaker 1: the reason we do our town is we try to
[1:07] Speaker 1: turn up when things are normal, not when it's just
[1:09] Speaker 1: a pretty backdrop for a weather story or a sad
[1:12] Speaker 1: backdrop because of a crime story, or turning up because
[1:15] Speaker 1: there's a news story, as we have for multiple years
[1:19] Speaker 1: thanks to our dear friends at Harvey normand we will
[1:20] Speaker 1: continue to do so again this year. Big lineup and
[1:23] Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing as many people as we can
[1:25] Speaker 1: around the country. Anyway, back to the main game. How
[1:28] Speaker 1: people have been handling the heat in Victoria tonight well
[1:31] Speaker 1: as best they can.
[1:33] Speaker 4: We've got livestock on our farm property, so yeah, we're
[1:38] Speaker 4: prepared to stay and try and look after them. It
[1:41] Speaker 4: does feel very eerie, just a mood and yeah, the
[1:45] Speaker 4: community a lot of people have come back this morning
[1:48] Speaker 4: to sort of pick up but more belongings now.
[1:51] Speaker 1: It is awful because yes, there are bushfires as we speak.
[1:54] Speaker 1: There is expected to be changes in wind direction once that,
[1:58] Speaker 1: of course is there. With still the amb and to
[2:00] Speaker 1: heat that is in the air, inevitably that can push
[2:04] Speaker 1: fires around, so things could get worse before they get better.
[2:06] Speaker 1: As soon as we know more, we will of course
[2:08] Speaker 1: pass it on. But please pay attention to all of
[2:10] Speaker 1: the local authorities follow them all on social media and
[2:12] Speaker 1: keep an eye sky news dot com dot au. But
[2:15] Speaker 1: of course there are many a person who wants to
[2:17] Speaker 1: turn any and every whether event into an example of
[2:21] Speaker 1: a climate that is getting worse, one that if we
[2:24] Speaker 1: do not do more than our fair share, remember where
[2:27] Speaker 1: one percent of the global problem, then somehow all of
[2:30] Speaker 1: this will get worse and worse and worse. It doesn't
[2:32] Speaker 1: matter what China does, forget that the United States, forget
[2:35] Speaker 1: the three quarters of the polluting countries are going backwards
[2:38] Speaker 1: as opposed to what we are trying to do. But
[2:41] Speaker 1: the politics of all of this in many ways has
[2:44] Speaker 1: replaced religion. Why because it's the ultimate test about whether
[2:48] Speaker 1: you care about the future, whether you want to leave
[2:50] Speaker 1: a planet better than the one that you found as
[2:53] Speaker 1: opposed to one done through acts of kindness or emotionally
[2:57] Speaker 1: or as a nation state. Well you get the point.
[3:01] Speaker 1: Part of the way that the climate change politics has
[3:04] Speaker 1: been solidified over the years is when there are extreme
[3:07] Speaker 1: examples of what the climate can serve up that then
[3:11] Speaker 1: become very simple visual notes that something that hasn't happened
[3:15] Speaker 1: in a few years or maybe one hundred years, or
[3:18] Speaker 1: maybe yes, even ever is an automatic example of the
[3:21] Speaker 1: catastrophization version of the story. Perfect example. The politics changed
[3:27] Speaker 1: and changed dramatically in and around Australia and climate change
[3:31] Speaker 1: from a twenty nineteen election where people rejected all of
[3:35] Speaker 1: the bill shorton ideas. After smoke covered Sydney in the
[3:39] Speaker 1: summer of nineteen into twenty twenty. That became a physical
[3:43] Speaker 1: manifestation of how climate change was getting worse now. As
[3:47] Speaker 1: we told you at the time, those fires particularly got
[3:50] Speaker 1: out of control because they were allowed to burn for
[3:52] Speaker 1: as long as they did in national parks for many
[3:54] Speaker 1: weeks prior. But yes, the reality of seven billion people
[3:59] Speaker 1: on the planet is that things are going to slowly,
[4:02] Speaker 1: maturely get more extreme. Never have I been in denial
[4:05] Speaker 1: about that. But what I can't stand to the people
[4:08] Speaker 1: who want to scare and already frightened generation. Forty percent
[4:13] Speaker 1: of young women claim that don't want to have kids
[4:15] Speaker 1: because of the climate catastrophe. There are kids who claim
[4:18] Speaker 1: they don't have to save or plan for a future
[4:21] Speaker 1: because life isn't worth living because of the climate catastrophe.
[4:27] Speaker 1: Well as there is with bushfires again, things like tropical
[4:30] Speaker 1: cyclone or the ex tropical cyclone Alfred, that we all
[4:33] Speaker 1: were dealing with last year. Well, these things are given names,
[4:36] Speaker 1: and I did a whole thing last week about how
[4:39] Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of people who want to name
[4:42] Speaker 1: heat waves.
[4:44] Speaker 5: Now.
[4:44] Speaker 1: Of course, when things get a name, they also get
[4:46] Speaker 1: the extra status of the constant briefings from insert emergency services,
[4:51] Speaker 1: the premiers that are reading off the notes acting as
[4:54] Speaker 1: the NC. But more importantly, that heighten the sense of emergency.
[5:00] Speaker 1: It becomes manifest in whatever the event is of the day.
[5:04] Speaker 1: Now climate, of course, we are told, is not the weather.
[5:07] Speaker 1: I e. Today's example of really hot or really cold
[5:10] Speaker 1: doesn't prove, but it's over time. So part of the
[5:14] Speaker 1: idea of trying to elevate the seriousness of heat waste,
[5:17] Speaker 1: and they've always been serious. Sadly, there are people who
[5:21] Speaker 1: die when it's really hot and when it's really cold.
[5:24] Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't the case, but alas that is
[5:26] Speaker 1: the human body. But there are people amongst us who
[5:30] Speaker 1: think that they are somehow going to be able to
[5:32] Speaker 1: stop certain very few of us, but sadly people who
[5:37] Speaker 1: are not able to cope with whatever the extremes are
[5:40] Speaker 1: of the day, which does not mean it is okay
[5:42] Speaker 1: when people get sick or they die, just in case,
[5:44] Speaker 1: somebody's planning to do a little smart ass edit there
[5:48] Speaker 1: into Monique Ryan, the Tiffany teal who, among everything else,
[5:53] Speaker 1: is about trying to frighten as many people as possible
[5:56] Speaker 1: that if Australia doesn't do everything we can, then somehow
[5:59] Speaker 1: we are going to fall into the black hole vortex
[6:02] Speaker 1: that is climate change. Now, even though Australia is one
[6:06] Speaker 1: percent of global emissions, people like Monique Ryan believes somehow
[6:09] Speaker 1: we can solve the entire global climate by what happens
[6:13] Speaker 1: on this beautiful and important content continent. She decided today
[6:20] Speaker 1: to put out a media statement. She didn't do as
[6:22] Speaker 1: best as I can see any interviews about this, because then,
[6:25] Speaker 1: of course she'd be pushed on the idiocy of it.
[6:27] Speaker 1: But this got plenty of news today. The doctor Monique
[6:29] Speaker 1: Ryan launches a campaign to name killer heat waves after
[6:34] Speaker 1: climate polluters. She's also got an extra section on her
[6:40] Speaker 1: website where name, address, email somehow you're going to join
[6:45] Speaker 1: the campaign. Be that the campaign for her general candidacy.
[6:52] Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would assume this is all
[6:54] Speaker 1: firewalled and there's no way the data that appears for
[6:57] Speaker 1: this campaign ends up going onto the general mailing list.
[7:00] Speaker 1: But this is what In part, she says, extreme weather
[7:03] Speaker 1: events like black Summer cyclone Yasi and the lis More
[7:07] Speaker 1: floods are seeing into our memories. Remember that black Summer
[7:13] Speaker 1: cyclone Yasi lis More floods. But heat waves, the climate
[7:18] Speaker 1: has it responsible for more Australian debths than flood storms,
[7:21] Speaker 1: bushfires combined remains a silent killer. Heat kills and it's
[7:24] Speaker 1: time the Albaneze government did something about it now. She
[7:27] Speaker 1: is not saying in this the drastic climate action, which
[7:32] Speaker 1: presumably means this will fix the problem. I don't know,
[7:36] Speaker 1: because it's all about the performance, the performance of having
[7:39] Speaker 1: an answer to a problem that is a global problem.
[7:45] Speaker 1: She says that the Albaneze government must act, and what
[7:47] Speaker 1: do they have to do. They have to name the
[7:49] Speaker 1: heat waves because if you do that, the sense of
[7:51] Speaker 1: emergency increases the number of press conferences, the number of
[7:57] Speaker 1: instances that keep people on it, which increases. Naming it
[8:03] Speaker 1: after the fossil fuel companies, Well, that's just a cute
[8:05] Speaker 1: little trick which got attention, including mine, She continues. Extreme
[8:09] Speaker 1: health health is a sorry extreme heat is a health
[8:13] Speaker 1: hazard and a communications failure. What does that mean. Heat
[8:17] Speaker 1: waves are not the beginning of warm spells as the
[8:19] Speaker 1: media portrays them. They're a silent killer. Every heat wave
[8:23] Speaker 1: is a potential mass casualty event. By naming them, we
[8:26] Speaker 1: can save Australian lives. Bullshit. By naming them, we can
[8:33] Speaker 1: name them in real time, we can draw attention to
[8:37] Speaker 1: them in real time. But it's not like the media
[8:41] Speaker 1: doesn't tell us that tomorrow the temperatures in Victoria is
[8:46] Speaker 1: going to go deep into the forties. Any if any
[8:49] Speaker 1: chance of being able to say that tomorrow, next week
[8:53] Speaker 1: or next month the weather is going to be really bad, Well,
[8:56] Speaker 1: the media tells us. Let alone the number of us
[8:59] Speaker 1: who's and at least a part of every day double
[9:02] Speaker 1: checking the bureaus, apps or the rain powrot apple, you
[9:06] Speaker 1: name what you've got. But lots of people in Australia
[9:10] Speaker 1: very aware of the weather, not just because, of course,
[9:12] Speaker 1: we come from generations of people who used to care
[9:15] Speaker 1: about agriculture. This is overtly not about solving climate change.
[9:22] Speaker 1: Because if it was about solving climate change, the Dear
[9:26] Speaker 1: Member would be going down to the Chinese Embassy and
[9:30] Speaker 1: getting anyone who signs her petition to be at the
[9:34] Speaker 1: front of the Chinese embassy, saying, when are you going
[9:36] Speaker 1: to do more on climate action? You are thirty three
[9:38] Speaker 1: percent of the world's problem. When are you going to
[9:40] Speaker 1: be thirty three or more percent of the global solution?
[9:44] Speaker 1: Any plans to do that around the embassies, even including
[9:47] Speaker 1: the United States, which are pulled out of Paris, Russia,
[9:50] Speaker 1: India or the Global South otherwise known as the Third World.
[9:55] Speaker 1: This does not mean Australia should not do anything on
[9:57] Speaker 1: climate change, but I'm sorry that forcing the government to
[10:01] Speaker 1: act now by giving a name to something that we
[10:04] Speaker 1: already know is happening when it is happening, is at
[10:07] Speaker 1: best window dressing of the worst kind. I spent some
[10:12] Speaker 1: time talking about this last week. As I mentioned before,
[10:15] Speaker 1: this is not a new idea. In fact, it's a
[10:16] Speaker 1: multiple reheated idea. It's one that got to run just
[10:20] Speaker 1: last week when the University of New South Wales was
[10:25] Speaker 1: saying cyclones have names? What about deadly heat waves?
[10:29] Speaker 6: Now?
[10:29] Speaker 1: The only problem for the giant globalist that is someone
[10:32] Speaker 1: like a Menique Ryan who wants everyone somehow to follow
[10:37] Speaker 1: COVID procedures forever put yourn math gun, which is never
[10:40] Speaker 1: leave the house. But when you're in the house, of course,
[10:42] Speaker 1: don't turn on their conditioning because that would be bad, unless,
[10:45] Speaker 1: of course, you've got a windmill on top of your house.
[10:50] Speaker 1: The truth about life, wherever it is in the world
[10:54] Speaker 1: is that there are dangers associated with life itself. Again,
[10:58] Speaker 1: for those that are about to maliciously edited this on
[11:01] Speaker 1: the Internet, I am not downplaying the illness of the
[11:03] Speaker 1: death that comes from horrible days like today. There are
[11:06] Speaker 1: people that are watching us right now that are struggling
[11:09] Speaker 1: and they haven't put even a fan on today because
[11:12] Speaker 1: the cost of the power to power that fan would
[11:18] Speaker 1: put them into deeper financial stress. A government that supposedly cares,
[11:24] Speaker 1: as I heard today from Jason Clear, the number one
[11:26] Speaker 1: priority was cost of living Well, they have decided to
[11:29] Speaker 1: pull all of the financial support when it comes to
[11:32] Speaker 1: power bills. Why because there's not an election this year.
[11:36] Speaker 1: Where's doctor Menique Ryan demanding that ability for people at
[11:41] Speaker 1: the lowest end of the socioeconomic rung to be able
[11:45] Speaker 1: to sit in the comfort that her and her voters
[11:47] Speaker 1: have in the posh bits of suburban Melbourne. Oh, by
[11:53] Speaker 1: the way, the UN doesn't agree with the dear tal
[11:57] Speaker 1: They haven't agreed for a long time for the best
[11:59] Speaker 1: part of more more than a decade. As I showed
[12:02] Speaker 1: you last week, I repeat for the third time the
[12:05] Speaker 1: World Meteorological I knew that the WMO organization has no
[12:11] Speaker 1: immedia plans to name heat waste because they think, among
[12:13] Speaker 1: other things, it becomes a distraction. But it does give
[12:18] Speaker 1: me a new segment that we could start on the show,
[12:23] Speaker 1: which is if we are supposed to give names to
[12:27] Speaker 1: heat waves, because that's a good wave, showing people how
[12:30] Speaker 1: serious things are. Well, we could now refer to this
[12:33] Speaker 1: and many other ideas that come from people like doctor
[12:37] Speaker 1: Manique Ryan as a category five bad Tiffany teal idea.
[12:44] Speaker 1: As for the actual weather and what's going on, how
[12:46] Speaker 1: does it change in the next little while it makes
[12:47] Speaker 1: its Sky News Weather have the latest for.
[12:49] Speaker 7: You Victoria seeing a cool down tomorrow. Now we have
[12:53] Speaker 7: an overnight cool change. That's what's really elevating that fire danger.
[12:57] Speaker 7: But as we head into our afternoon, when you can
[13:00] Speaker 7: see where the wind is coming in from the south,
[13:02] Speaker 7: there's blue across the coastline indicating those cooler temperatures and
[13:07] Speaker 7: see at least some diminished fire danger for portions of Victoria.
[13:12] Speaker 1: Thank you may be safe to everyone who's going through
[13:14] Speaker 1: it right now. Now, part of our new jus up
[13:17] Speaker 1: Man Cave is I have the ability to stand up
[13:19] Speaker 1: and do my best impersonation of a weather person, but
[13:22] Speaker 1: to use the technology that we have to show you
[13:25] Speaker 1: some data. Now, you know that it harms me some data,
[13:29] Speaker 1: and I particularly love opinion polls. Now, there are good ones,
[13:32] Speaker 1: there are bad ones. But you know we've been quoting
[13:34] Speaker 1: these for as long as we've been on the air.
[13:35] Speaker 1: It doesn't matter from where the source comes. There's always
[13:38] Speaker 1: a little nugget. Eventually you start to put them all together,
[13:41] Speaker 1: you get an overall picture. Well, tonight, I would like
[13:44] Speaker 1: to introduce you to the best pole of them all,
[13:47] Speaker 1: a brand new one which will be happening every two weeks,
[13:50] Speaker 1: and at this time, every two weeks we will give
[13:53] Speaker 1: you the results. It's backed by the data and the
[13:56] Speaker 1: good people of YouGov. And its name is Faan the
[14:07] Speaker 1: Sky News Pulse. Now this is fifteen hundred people. This
[14:11] Speaker 1: was a survey that will come out every two weeks.
[14:13] Speaker 1: This was done between the twentieth and the twenty seventh
[14:16] Speaker 1: of January. As I said, a lot of the data,
[14:18] Speaker 1: the spine behind all of this is you gov. These
[14:20] Speaker 1: are a company that got it absolutely right going into
[14:25] Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four with the Libs were
[14:26] Speaker 1: in front. They showed in real time how and where
[14:29] Speaker 1: and why Labor was pulling away. Its headline tonight is
[14:32] Speaker 1: one nation could form opposition if an election was held today,
[14:37] Speaker 1: according to this brand new pole. Why well, let me
[14:40] Speaker 1: show you the primary vote is extraordinary. Now obviously the
[14:46] Speaker 1: only giant jumper from the last election is one Nation.
[14:49] Speaker 1: But compare it to the Libs. The Liberal Party is
[14:52] Speaker 1: now down to just fourteen percent, down six from the
[14:55] Speaker 1: election twenty five. One quarter of all Australian voters are
[14:59] Speaker 1: now back in one Nation. Labor is ever so slightly
[15:02] Speaker 1: down Independence others, and the Nationals themselves they sit at
[15:07] Speaker 1: two percent. So now that they're not a coalition, you
[15:09] Speaker 1: can't put the numbers together to give you an idea
[15:12] Speaker 1: of how some of these numbers break down by maybe
[15:15] Speaker 1: where you live. I wanted to show you this version
[15:18] Speaker 1: of it, which is out of metropolitan otherwise known as suburbia.
[15:22] Speaker 1: Thirty percent of people backing in the Labor Party, twenty
[15:25] Speaker 1: seven percent now backing in one Nation, and twenty percent
[15:29] Speaker 1: backing in the coalition now Obviously, theoretically, if preferences start
[15:32] Speaker 1: to dance around here, it means that the combined vote
[15:35] Speaker 1: would be able to jump over Labor potentially in multiple
[15:39] Speaker 1: outer suburban seats. That could start to think change things around.
[15:43] Speaker 1: But who would the numbers end up going to. Well,
[15:45] Speaker 1: under this number and under these preferences, it'll be the
[15:49] Speaker 1: coalition giving the preferences to one nation, not the other
[15:51] Speaker 1: way around as it has been in terms of regional
[15:54] Speaker 1: areas and where they sit right now, let me show
[15:57] Speaker 1: you there. It won't be a giant surprise. Here three
[16:00] Speaker 1: percent for the Labour Party thirty five right now in
[16:02] Speaker 1: regional Australia for one nation the coalition that of course
[16:06] Speaker 1: being a majority nationals vote. Well, that is now down
[16:10] Speaker 1: to just twenty one percent if you have a look
[16:13] Speaker 1: it on on two party preferred, the government would be returned.
[16:16] Speaker 1: But remember previous opinion polls basically put this thing anywhere
[16:20] Speaker 1: between fifty five to forty five, and now even a
[16:24] Speaker 1: little higher is what it blew out at the end
[16:26] Speaker 1: of last year. It is now back to where it
[16:27] Speaker 1: was at the election as you can see, of fifty
[16:30] Speaker 1: five to forty five. But what if it was one nation?
[16:33] Speaker 1: What if it was the Coalition or the Nationals who
[16:35] Speaker 1: end up giving their preferences to one nation, well it'd
[16:38] Speaker 1: be fifty seven to forty three. So it is a
[16:40] Speaker 1: bigger win for the Labor Party. But these are the
[16:43] Speaker 1: calculations that we now have to start doing because that
[16:46] Speaker 1: primary vote is extraordinary twenty five percent. This is from
[16:51] Speaker 1: the yugov Sky News Pulse, the new pole that we
[16:54] Speaker 1: will show you every two weeks at the start of
[16:56] Speaker 1: Paul Murray Live. The details on the data for you
[16:59] Speaker 1: to see right now. It's news dot com dot au.
[17:02] Speaker 1: Will it surprise you what one of the big driving
[17:04] Speaker 1: issues are behind this result for one nation, Well, it
[17:08] Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. It's immigration again, simple question which is
[17:12] Speaker 1: asked of people. And this is what I love the
[17:14] Speaker 1: most about this poll is that it's not just about
[17:16] Speaker 1: the horse race. It's about the questions about how we
[17:19] Speaker 1: feel on certain issues that sometimes aren't about team red,
[17:22] Speaker 1: team blue or now team orange. Instead, what do we
[17:25] Speaker 1: need to do when it comes to migration, Well, a
[17:27] Speaker 1: big decrease is what most people seemingly want. Right now,
[17:31] Speaker 1: you can see there a small decrease about the same
[17:33] Speaker 1: that's sitting at about what forty nine percent. But you
[17:36] Speaker 1: can see there pretty amazing numbers that the single biggest
[17:40] Speaker 1: section there is a big decrease. You may recall, of course,
[17:44] Speaker 1: the social media band which came in at the end
[17:45] Speaker 1: of last year. I'll have some information for you a
[17:48] Speaker 1: little bit later in the show about how many accounts
[17:50] Speaker 1: have just gone fumped up, up and into the ether. Well,
[17:53] Speaker 1: how do Australians feel about it? Let's all find out together.
[17:57] Speaker 1: Where again the issues here are forty percent of people
[18:01] Speaker 1: strongly support or about sixty nine percent of people generally
[18:06] Speaker 1: speaking do support. Why because as you can see here,
[18:10] Speaker 1: the some loot and strongly sits together with those who
[18:13] Speaker 1: of course oppose strongly opposed at just six percent. So
[18:17] Speaker 1: the government was on a winner there, but at the
[18:20] Speaker 1: same time they were on a loser when it came
[18:22] Speaker 1: to the travel roots that we had towards the end
[18:24] Speaker 1: of the year, and then it started to go in
[18:26] Speaker 1: full reverse when it came to the response to BONDAI.
[18:30] Speaker 1: Every opinion poll has concluded what we have also concluded
[18:33] Speaker 1: in this research year, which is that the country did
[18:36] Speaker 1: not like the Prime Minister's response to BONDI. From the
[18:39] Speaker 1: early morning appearances which were all there to convey that
[18:42] Speaker 1: he cared, but the reality was he was doing as
[18:44] Speaker 1: much as he could to get away from a media
[18:47] Speaker 1: cycle that was starting to beat him up. Now, largely
[18:49] Speaker 1: these numbers have somewhat melted away because of what we
[18:53] Speaker 1: talked about last week, which is that big national day
[18:55] Speaker 1: of mourning, the Prime Minister making his apology, making a pivot.
[19:00] Speaker 1: So whether these numbers stand, but that survey still stood
[19:03] Speaker 1: between remember the twentieth of January and the twenty seven
[19:06] Speaker 1: So the numbers are still pretty solid here right badly
[19:10] Speaker 1: twenty eight percent not as well as reasonably expected twenty
[19:13] Speaker 1: one percent. Again, put it together, you're at forty nine
[19:16] Speaker 1: thirty eight percent of people that essentially being labor voters
[19:19] Speaker 1: or labor plus Greens plus a little bit of teals
[19:21] Speaker 1: they said he did okay. The five percent apparently is
[19:23] Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's office that we accidentally ended up polling
[19:26] Speaker 1: because they said five percent thought that he was okay
[19:29] Speaker 1: in terms of the overall positive negative. You can see
[19:31] Speaker 1: that for yourself. And finally, Susan Lee, the person who
[19:35] Speaker 1: may well not be the opposition leader in a couple
[19:37] Speaker 1: of weeks time, but according to her supporters, yeah no,
[19:39] Speaker 1: she'll be fine, don't worry about it again. We asked
[19:41] Speaker 1: the question here about her performance and her performance as
[19:44] Speaker 1: the opposition leader in the past few weeks. Are you
[19:47] Speaker 1: satisfied or dissatisfied with the way that Susan Lee is
[19:49] Speaker 1: the leader of the opposition. Let's have a look at
[19:51] Speaker 1: these numbers here, because there'll be plenty of Liberal MPs
[19:54] Speaker 1: are about to pick up the telephone and start saying,
[19:57] Speaker 1: see see well. National number fifty seven percent of dissatisfied,
[20:01] Speaker 1: a quarter are satisfied, and that satisfaction rating is down
[20:05] Speaker 1: thirty one percent. So despite the fact that there are
[20:08] Speaker 1: many issues that have not been good for the for
[20:12] Speaker 1: Susan Lee, there of course are ones that have been
[20:14] Speaker 1: worse for the Prime minister. But the headline out of
[20:16] Speaker 1: all of this one nation not just rising, not just surging,
[20:19] Speaker 1: but going through the damn roof right now one in
[20:21] Speaker 1: four people, a giant increase of sixteen percent since the election.
[20:25] Speaker 1: As for Susan Lee, some of our colleagues were out
[20:27] Speaker 1: and about trying to back her up.
[20:28] Speaker 8: Today, Susan has my one hundred percent support.
[20:32] Speaker 5: There's obviously a lot of speculation.
[20:34] Speaker 8: In the media at the moment, but no one has
[20:37] Speaker 8: announced a challenge.
[20:38] Speaker 9: I've made it very clear to all in Sundry that
[20:42] Speaker 9: I support the leader. Susan has my absolute support. I
[20:45] Speaker 9: think this is a storm and a teacup. I think
[20:48] Speaker 9: there's a small number of people who are trying to
[20:51] Speaker 9: whip this into something that it's not.
[20:55] Speaker 1: The Skoe news pulse. Important enough for me to be
[20:57] Speaker 1: standing and walk you through the data. It also gives
[20:59] Speaker 1: me a couple of seconds to sit back down and
[21:01] Speaker 1: get on with what we're talking about here. As the
[21:03] Speaker 1: polling has just shown Liberal and Peace are frightened. Why
[21:07] Speaker 1: because clearly if they're in a position where they vote
[21:10] Speaker 1: is below one nations, then they will not end up
[21:13] Speaker 1: as the beneficiaries of one nation's preferences. They'll be giving
[21:16] Speaker 1: preferences presumably to one nation over the Labor Party, and
[21:20] Speaker 1: then you end up in a contest between one nation. Currently,
[21:23] Speaker 1: we don't forget this one member of the Lower House,
[21:26] Speaker 1: that being Barnaby Joyce, but he's not planning to stick
[21:28] Speaker 1: around to be the opposition leader or the alternaitiy prime minister.
[21:32] Speaker 1: He's going to go upstairs, so a complete blank slate.
[21:35] Speaker 1: But we'll all see what happens here. It'll be fascinating
[21:37] Speaker 1: to watch. I particularly see the strength not just in
[21:39] Speaker 1: lower house performance, but I think the true test always
[21:41] Speaker 1: with One Nation is about the upper House, and they
[21:44] Speaker 1: have done phenomenally well at the last election. Pauline is
[21:47] Speaker 1: on the ballot at the next election. So given off
[21:50] Speaker 1: these numbers, well you can assume that many Liberal and
[21:52] Speaker 1: National senators will end up being replaced by One Nation
[21:56] Speaker 1: senators in almost every state. You can imagine great people
[21:59] Speaker 1: like Lee Hanson end up joining the parliament. It'd be
[22:02] Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. But what's interesting here today is that
[22:07] Speaker 1: as we start to consider the options of what does
[22:10] Speaker 1: the Liberal Party do from here, the Labor Party is
[22:13] Speaker 1: already starting to soften up its attacks on who they
[22:17] Speaker 1: think may well end up being the next opposition leader.
[22:19] Speaker 1: Now again, Susan Lee has every right, in my view,
[22:22] Speaker 1: to be able to be given at least a full
[22:24] Speaker 1: color in the year, but that may well not be
[22:27] Speaker 1: the case. So we deal in reality on this program.
[22:30] Speaker 1: So let's start to pay attention to how they are
[22:32] Speaker 1: pre attacking Andrew Hasty.
[22:35] Speaker 8: Andrew Hasty, who would be the most right wing Liberal
[22:39] Speaker 8: Party leader that the country has ever seen.
[22:41] Speaker 1: Ding ed d Ding Ding Ding Ding and because that
[22:45] Speaker 1: would be the claim. You end up as a scenario
[22:47] Speaker 1: where many people want to move further to the conservative
[22:52] Speaker 1: end of politics, to jump on to the bandwagon of
[22:55] Speaker 1: which Pauline Hansen has been on. But the warning for
[22:58] Speaker 1: going there is what you just saw when it came
[23:00] Speaker 1: to the Labor Party. But then there's also the Tiffany
[23:03] Speaker 1: Teals and there's plenty of Liberals who say no, no, we've
[23:06] Speaker 1: got to just tack back to the center. We've got
[23:08] Speaker 1: to go a little further right because we've got to
[23:11] Speaker 1: get rid of all that right wing stuff, you know,
[23:12] Speaker 1: climate change or the rest of it, you know, the
[23:14] Speaker 1: turnbull wing. Somehow the entire Liberal Party needs to reinvent
[23:17] Speaker 1: itself to somehow get Malcolm Turnble to vote for it again.
[23:20] Speaker 1: We're not think we all know probably I'm likely to
[23:22] Speaker 1: be doing so anytime soon. Tim Wilson is one of
[23:25] Speaker 1: those who's making that argument internally.
[23:28] Speaker 4: Well, Susan's a leader, and I always support the leader.
[23:31] Speaker 8: We've got to make sure that whatever it is, we're
[23:33] Speaker 8: united behind the team.
[23:34] Speaker 4: We need to make sure we're holding the alban Easy
[23:37] Speaker 4: government to account.
[23:39] Speaker 1: So we're in this three way potential maybe right now,
[23:42] Speaker 1: about which store are they going to go through? Will
[23:44] Speaker 1: they remain with the one that they currently are? Do
[23:46] Speaker 1: they go through the door named Hasty? Do they go
[23:48] Speaker 1: through the door named Taylor? Now, basically, if the party
[23:54] Speaker 1: room voted exactly the same way that they did to
[23:57] Speaker 1: make Susan Lead the leader, there are a couple of
[23:59] Speaker 1: people that are no longer in the Parliament, or people
[24:01] Speaker 1: like Giselle Kapterri and who never made it to the Parliament,
[24:03] Speaker 1: who were able to get her over the line and
[24:05] Speaker 1: give her the slender lead. So presumably even if everyone
[24:10] Speaker 1: no one's changed their mind and the advantage starts to
[24:12] Speaker 1: move towards those who want to make the change. But
[24:15] Speaker 1: of course there's now the fight, well early disagreements about
[24:20] Speaker 1: which of the two would like the next crackouder. You
[24:23] Speaker 1: know this, You've seen it all the way through. And
[24:25] Speaker 1: it's not like there aren't liberals that are desperate to
[24:28] Speaker 1: get this on, including people like Jane Hume, who remember
[24:31] Speaker 1: was to be part of the work from home policy
[24:33] Speaker 1: of the last election. Did I mention that again? I apologize.
[24:37] Speaker 1: She of course got the boot from Susan Lee's shadow ministry,
[24:40] Speaker 1: so she's been more than happy to fuel the speculation.
[24:43] Speaker 1: In fact, she's even begging someone to call tonight on television.
[24:49] Speaker 3: No one has called me and asked me to vote
[24:52] Speaker 3: for them. Susan Lee is my leader.
[24:55] Speaker 1: But but the this of course is the main game.
[25:01] Speaker 1: It's worthy of debate and it's something that we're all
[25:03] Speaker 1: discussing up elln Downdale. But there is something even more
[25:08] Speaker 1: important than who the leader of the Liberal Party is.
[25:11] Speaker 1: That is really important for people who want someone, anyone
[25:17] Speaker 1: to be able to challenge this government at an election
[25:20] Speaker 1: in a couple of years time. Buried underneath everything else
[25:25] Speaker 1: that happened last week, the Labor Party put forward a
[25:29] Speaker 1: detailed review and why wouldn't they about why they think
[25:32] Speaker 1: they won, how they think they won. This isn't just
[25:35] Speaker 1: the peacocking that goes on at the National Press Club.
[25:37] Speaker 1: There was a little more data behind it. The review,
[25:40] Speaker 1: released on Friday, said that while there was nothing inevitable
[25:43] Speaker 1: about Labour's election victory on May the third, the party
[25:45] Speaker 1: had successfully framed the contest as choice between Albanesi and
[25:48] Speaker 1: the then opposition leader Peter Duden, who was viewed by
[25:51] Speaker 1: voters as negative, arrogant and aggressive geez I Wonder who
[25:54] Speaker 1: kept making that suggestion to them. The post mortem that
[25:57] Speaker 1: was led by Blah Blah Blah said Labor had continued
[26:01] Speaker 1: to perform very well in culturally diverse areas with high
[26:04] Speaker 1: concentrations of people with university degrees electorates with higher numbers
[26:08] Speaker 1: of people who worked from home. Hencewhyth Jane Hume of
[26:11] Speaker 1: it all needs to be reminded with a particular stronger
[26:15] Speaker 1: party result there. Labour also recorded significant two party preferred
[26:18] Speaker 1: swings in neighborhoods with high mortgage ownership. So even when
[26:22] Speaker 1: they were the people responsible for the economy that got
[26:25] Speaker 1: thirteen interest rate rises, they still got the credit with
[26:28] Speaker 1: the people who are paying off their mortgages. Dear God,
[26:31] Speaker 1: the Liberal Party has not released its review. It is
[26:36] Speaker 1: not even this many months after told us where they
[26:40] Speaker 1: think they got it wrong. Now, what's always difficult in
[26:42] Speaker 1: a loss, and particularly a big loss. This has an
[26:44] Speaker 1: awful lot of blame and maybe some of it's going
[26:45] Speaker 1: to be way too personal about Peter Dutton. And you know,
[26:48] Speaker 1: I remain a supporter of Peter Dutton, a really decent
[26:52] Speaker 1: man who deserved much more than what he ended up
[26:53] Speaker 1: getting and getting over and over and over again from
[26:55] Speaker 1: the media. As we showed you each and every night.
[27:00] Speaker 1: But regardless of who the leader is and what press
[27:01] Speaker 1: release and what they do on social media, the machine
[27:05] Speaker 1: that is behind the one that has to have the
[27:09] Speaker 1: the members, the grunt, the advertising, all the rest of it, Well,
[27:14] Speaker 1: that is really being ignored at the moment. And it's
[27:17] Speaker 1: a long, boring conversation, but it is a cathartic one,
[27:20] Speaker 1: but also an important one. Does it need a total
[27:22] Speaker 1: clean nowt Do they need a flying squad of people
[27:24] Speaker 1: who know how to win elections? I don't know, But
[27:28] Speaker 1: I just want to return to the five things that
[27:30] Speaker 1: I said the night after the Liberal Party got its
[27:33] Speaker 1: ass handed to them at the last election. Not the
[27:36] Speaker 1: result I wanted, not the one that we worked for
[27:39] Speaker 1: or cheered for, but the one that we got. So
[27:42] Speaker 1: I don't wanted them to take time to be honest
[27:43] Speaker 1: about what had happened. Well, where has any of that
[27:47] Speaker 1: conversation happened? Instead, we were straight away into the net
[27:49] Speaker 1: zero fight, no real mechanical conversations. Did they really go
[27:56] Speaker 1: in all of the seats that they lost and sit
[27:58] Speaker 1: and have town holes and find out from people who
[28:01] Speaker 1: used to vote for them why they didn't vote for them? No,
[28:02] Speaker 1: none of that. That's don't just learn a lesson be
[28:06] Speaker 1: seen to be learning a lesson. Have you seen them
[28:10] Speaker 1: have a better socials game since the last election? Now
[28:14] Speaker 1: win an election. No disrespect to people who are pretty
[28:16] Speaker 1: good with their version of social media, being able to
[28:19] Speaker 1: film themselves walking on a beach. You're going to need
[28:21] Speaker 1: a bigger machine than that, a bigger boat than that.
[28:25] Speaker 1: They've got to empower the next generation, the next generation
[28:28] Speaker 1: of people who are party members, or the next generation
[28:30] Speaker 1: of candidates who may have to take six years to
[28:33] Speaker 1: get close to a fifty to fifty. And yeah, everything's
[28:35] Speaker 1: on the table, but none of that's on the table.
[28:37] Speaker 1: None of that's being publicly discussed. Instead, the magic solution
[28:41] Speaker 1: of well, if this person leads, then it's all going
[28:43] Speaker 1: to be okay. Why because they say the things that
[28:45] Speaker 1: we agree with? Cool? Well, what about the machine. Remember,
[28:50] Speaker 1: for one nation, it has taken them ten years to
[28:54] Speaker 1: build a machine that gets to where they are today.
[28:57] Speaker 1: And anyone who turns around and thinks, geez, they're really
[28:59] Speaker 1: lucky at the moment with the polls and the songs
[29:02] Speaker 1: and the cartoons, well, none of that's an accident. All
[29:05] Speaker 1: of that has been being built for ten years. Where
[29:10] Speaker 1: are the people who are talking about the machine that
[29:13] Speaker 1: needs to be built, and how ideas don't just go
[29:16] Speaker 1: from what we believe in, but also what we believe
[29:18] Speaker 1: in and how that affects people and you can convince
[29:21] Speaker 1: them because you mean it, that you have a better
[29:23] Speaker 1: plan for how to help them in their life. None
[29:27] Speaker 1: of that is automatically solved by a new leader. But
[29:29] Speaker 1: that's not me trying to find ways to defend Susan
[29:32] Speaker 1: Lee's leadership. But it is just a note of caution
[29:35] Speaker 1: that anyone thinks there's any sort of silver bullet, magic
[29:37] Speaker 1: wand or quick fix. It's much deeper, including a whole
[29:41] Speaker 1: bunch of people that you and I have never heard of,
[29:44] Speaker 1: who have been failing for way too long. One last
[29:47] Speaker 1: thing I want to mention here too about this softening
[29:49] Speaker 1: up period that we are now in about Andrew Hasty,
[29:52] Speaker 1: the worst ever bug? Remember Murray, what Andrew Hasty?
[29:59] Speaker 10: Who is would the most right wing Liberal party leader
[30:02] Speaker 10: that the country has ever seen?
[30:04] Speaker 1: The problem me is I remember when they were running
[30:06] Speaker 1: the same thing against Peter Dutton.
[30:09] Speaker 10: Peter Dutton will continue as he did yesterday, to look
[30:15] Speaker 10: for areas of division, to look for areas in which
[30:20] Speaker 10: he can try to promote fear in the community.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Now. Of course it worked in twenty five. It worked
[30:28] Speaker 1: in twenty two when they did Scott Morrison.
[30:32] Speaker 10: This Prime Minister is always looking for the division.
[30:36] Speaker 1: But then it didn't work when they lost to Tony Abbott.
[30:39] Speaker 1: But they did it anyway.
[30:41] Speaker 10: The Prime Minister is rapidly transforming himself into the political
[30:46] Speaker 10: equivalent of a mony python skit. Deceit is bad enough,
[30:51] Speaker 10: but Australians must be also tiring of this government's pitiful
[30:55] Speaker 10: attempts to hide its deceit.
[30:59] Speaker 1: Of course, tackle Tony Abbott reminds me of that wonderful
[31:02] Speaker 1: moment when he was at the National Press Club, remember,
[31:04] Speaker 1: and he was called ripping off a fake president from
[31:07] Speaker 1: a movie.
[31:09] Speaker 6: Tony Abbott is not the least bit interested in fixing anything.
[31:13] Speaker 6: Bob Rumson is not the least bit inter resident solving it.
[31:16] Speaker 6: He's only interested in two things. He is interested in
[31:19] Speaker 6: two things, making a strange afraid of it, making you
[31:23] Speaker 6: afraid of it, and telling them who's to blame for it,
[31:25] Speaker 6: and telling you who's a blame for it.
[31:28] Speaker 1: That bloke ended up becoming the guy who won more
[31:30] Speaker 1: than ninety seats, you know, setting himself up to be
[31:34] Speaker 1: leader for life. The Liberals in any way helping him
[31:37] Speaker 1: do it. And of course before that, the most extreme
[31:40] Speaker 1: leader of the Liberal Party that had ever been was
[31:42] Speaker 1: the one we elected thirty years ago.
[31:44] Speaker 11: Right, Albo, this is a man we have leading the country,
[31:48] Speaker 11: a man who was so instinctively petty and so bitterly
[31:52] Speaker 11: obsessed that he could craft an entire parliamentary career without
[31:56] Speaker 11: mentioning a word molded culturalism. I've steeped in conservative values
[32:01] Speaker 11: and fear of what is new is John Winston Howe.
[32:06] Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if they win, if they lose,
[32:08] Speaker 1: they're all called the same thing. Why because he doesn't
[32:11] Speaker 1: care about what they say. He does not care what
[32:14] Speaker 1: they actually stand for. He does not care what you believe,
[32:19] Speaker 1: because for him, it's just a fight between team Red
[32:23] Speaker 1: teen blue, good guys and bad guys, or as they
[32:27] Speaker 1: used to say at UNI, I.
[32:31] Speaker 10: Like fighting Tories.
[32:33] Speaker 1: That's what I do. That's what I do. That's what
[32:37] Speaker 1: he really cares about. All politics, all the time. He's
[32:39] Speaker 1: very good at it. But hopefully some more people other
[32:42] Speaker 1: than us will start to notice that the Emperor is
[32:45] Speaker 1: not just nicky knu he's full of it too, oh
[32:48] Speaker 1: doctor SEUs. More in a sect here on Porulmurray Live
[32:50] Speaker 1: loves to get to including One Nation has the number
[32:53] Speaker 1: one song in the country. She's i't wonder if you've
[32:56] Speaker 1: got to play tonight in all those countdown shows me.
[33:00] Speaker 1: It's not imagine that on Rage on Saturday morning. That'll
[33:03] Speaker 1: be fun. Port a second, thank you very much for
[33:10] Speaker 1: watching joining us right now as a man who couldn't
[33:12] Speaker 1: be happier. Number one song in the country. The movie
[33:15] Speaker 1: is on its way and the One Nation has just
[33:18] Speaker 1: cracked twenty five percent according to that Sky News pulse
[33:22] Speaker 1: Yuga Pole. What a time to be James Ashby mate.
[33:25] Speaker 1: But you're still living in a caravan right, Yeah.
[33:30] Speaker 8: Well we're not allowed to listen to the Hoodoo Gurus anymore.
[33:33] Speaker 8: We've been banned by band, so we had to come
[33:36] Speaker 8: up with our own music, Paul, And look at that,
[33:38] Speaker 8: it's gone to number one.
[33:39] Speaker 1: That's crazy. We're going to all listen a second. Wonderful
[33:41] Speaker 1: Linda Scott has always this here free to speak our heart.
[33:44] Speaker 1: But of course we all know it to be labor.
[33:46] Speaker 1: So Linda, you were part of the Sydney City councilor
[33:48] Speaker 1: at one point declared climb emergency. Are you there with
[33:51] Speaker 1: the good doctor doctor Benick Ryan saying we must name
[33:54] Speaker 1: the heat waves now because they are the silent killer,
[33:57] Speaker 1: because apparently it's the name that will be all that
[33:59] Speaker 1: if it's in the world.
[34:01] Speaker 12: Look, I do think we should do more about heat waves.
[34:05] Speaker 12: There's research from Monash University, Paul As, I'm sure you
[34:08] Speaker 12: know that shows that about one in one thousand deaths
[34:11] Speaker 12: on average can be attributed to heat, and it's more
[34:14] Speaker 12: significant in rural and regional areas cities. You know, my
[34:18] Speaker 12: lovely friend Nick Race that Lord Mayor of Melbourne is
[34:20] Speaker 12: doing a lot to get urban forests into Melbourne and
[34:22] Speaker 12: plant more trees. Cities are doing a lot on this,
[34:24] Speaker 12: but it is much harder and more expensive in rural
[34:27] Speaker 12: and remote communities. So the research is showing that more
[34:29] Speaker 12: people are dying in rural and remote communities as a
[34:32] Speaker 12: result of urban heat waves.
[34:34] Speaker 1: And I think I can't afford to heat.
[34:38] Speaker 12: We've got to do something for these communities. I mean,
[34:40] Speaker 12: I think it's reasonable that we call out that there
[34:42] Speaker 12: is an impact of heat, that we call out that
[34:45] Speaker 12: it's harmful for people's health, we call out that it's
[34:47] Speaker 12: affecting different parts of australaut whether we name it or
[34:51] Speaker 12: find out another way to do it. I think raising
[34:54] Speaker 12: awareness of the impact of significant and increasing heat is.
[34:59] Speaker 1: From the day you're bought in Australia, you know that
[35:01] Speaker 1: there are these particular summers that can really bite, right,
[35:05] Speaker 1: and when they bite, they bite hard again the last decade, right, yeah,
[35:09] Speaker 1: but James.
[35:11] Speaker 12: Sixteen, then we broke records again in twenty nineteen. We've
[35:14] Speaker 12: broken more records in the ninety years than in the
[35:17] Speaker 12: last kind.
[35:17] Speaker 1: Of im able to show you that. But James, what
[35:21] Speaker 1: about this idea? Right? Because obviously again I think it's
[35:24] Speaker 1: part of if you give it a name, you increase
[35:26] Speaker 1: a sense of catastrophe. If there are more frequent catastrophes,
[35:30] Speaker 1: well then kids that we know have got climate anxiety
[35:33] Speaker 1: now diagnosable. People say that I want to have kids
[35:36] Speaker 1: because of the climate. Well all of that, of course
[35:39] Speaker 1: becomes more intense. Now that's fine if Manie Rahim wants
[35:41] Speaker 1: to do this on the internet, But I assume she's
[35:43] Speaker 1: marching down to the Chinese embassy with all of her
[35:45] Speaker 1: other Tiffany teel mates and telling them to pull their
[35:48] Speaker 1: head in because Australia is one percent of the problem.
[35:50] Speaker 1: China's thirty three.
[35:54] Speaker 5: We do it for the drama, that's what she's doing for.
[35:57] Speaker 8: I had a kidney stone before Christmas spot I named
[36:00] Speaker 8: it too. I named it Razor because it was a
[36:03] Speaker 8: more dramatic story for people.
[36:07] Speaker 1: Let's not.
[36:10] Speaker 8: We don't need more name those passing a stone euroucratic department.
[36:14] Speaker 1: Right up there in terms of pain. Apparently we would
[36:17] Speaker 1: never say it goes bigger than the big one, but
[36:19] Speaker 1: it's right up there, right. So I'm sorry that happened
[36:21] Speaker 1: to you, mate. I hope you're okay. So that's all right, Yeah,
[36:25] Speaker 1: God love you. So let's get to this song. Right.
[36:28] Speaker 1: So Holly Valance, who we know it moved from being
[36:31] Speaker 1: sort of the soft left why she was sort of
[36:33] Speaker 1: in and around show be is. Then she of course
[36:35] Speaker 1: goes to the UK. She comes out as common sense,
[36:38] Speaker 1: which of course instantly means ostracization. But she's now using
[36:42] Speaker 1: her celebrity to back in the things that she believes,
[36:45] Speaker 1: including in Australia taking the piss out of things. Now
[36:48] Speaker 1: she's done a song in connection with the super progressive
[36:52] Speaker 1: movie available now I believe in fact about fourteen bucks.
[36:55] Speaker 1: You can get the link watch it at home. You
[36:57] Speaker 1: can gift it to another friend. I do all this
[36:59] Speaker 1: for free, by the way, you know. But still this
[37:03] Speaker 1: is the song. The song has now gone number one
[37:06] Speaker 1: on all of the download charts, and presumably that's going
[37:09] Speaker 1: to affect what's going to turn up on the radio.
[37:11] Speaker 1: But still here's part of it. Linda. If you haven't
[37:14] Speaker 1: seen it, please enjoy collect. There's some technical things I'd
[37:28] Speaker 1: like to ask about the video. But Linda, we're in
[37:32] Speaker 1: this moment now where I want to go back to
[37:36] Speaker 1: a strange place. I want to take you back to
[37:38] Speaker 1: a place of Margaret and David on at the movies,
[37:42] Speaker 1: way back on the old SBS, right, not the crappy
[37:44] Speaker 1: Abby Savage But I remember there was some sort of
[37:47] Speaker 1: film that was coming out that was deemed to be
[37:48] Speaker 1: particularly offensive, so much so that somebody wanted to ban it,
[37:52] Speaker 1: and they were out and about saying well no, no. The
[37:54] Speaker 1: whole sort of point of this is that you don't
[37:56] Speaker 1: deny people their crewd of choices. If they want to
[37:58] Speaker 1: go and do it, great, you can watch it, you
[38:00] Speaker 1: can listen to it. You don't have to force me
[38:02] Speaker 1: to like it or not. So doesn't that apply to
[38:04] Speaker 1: even all of this stuff, or is there some sort
[38:06] Speaker 1: of a new test in twenty twenty six that says
[38:09] Speaker 1: this song shouldn't be on the radio despite being number
[38:12] Speaker 1: one in the country.
[38:13] Speaker 11: Look pole, Paul.
[38:15] Speaker 12: When it comes to music, as we all know, in Australia,
[38:18] Speaker 12: the only polem matters is the Hottest one hundred on.
[38:20] Speaker 1: Jay Rubbish and guess which song's out selling them?
[38:23] Speaker 12: Are there, James James? Once you win the Hottest one hundred,
[38:30] Speaker 12: then I will respect You're.
[38:31] Speaker 1: Going to put a challenge out for him to get
[38:32] Speaker 1: every one nation supported to vote in the Hottest Love
[38:36] Speaker 1: to you.
[38:36] Speaker 12: Otherwise there's no kind of credibility right day to day,
[38:41] Speaker 12: you know, polling on Spotify, which you know is a
[38:44] Speaker 12: company that doesn't pay their artists.
[38:47] Speaker 1: Well, number ones don't count on Spotify.
[38:52] Speaker 12: Well, she's bought her own hits back and she's really
[38:55] Speaker 12: she's running business. But if you're an up and coming
[38:58] Speaker 12: Aussie artist or a musician like Spotify is not giving
[39:02] Speaker 12: you a Liverpool wage, I think.
[39:04] Speaker 1: I think I understand the constituency to be offended by
[39:07] Speaker 1: everything about this, But there's a little part of you
[39:09] Speaker 1: that says, look, put it out there and if someone
[39:11] Speaker 1: wants to follow that boat. Good luck if they don't.
[39:14] Speaker 8: I have not the same year. I don't know when
[39:17] Speaker 8: the left. You don't deserve to be at number one
[39:20] Speaker 8: in this country. She's saying you've got to be.
[39:23] Speaker 5: I'm saying that.
[39:24] Speaker 12: Artists and musicians deserves to be.
[39:26] Speaker 5: Roomaving here right to be at number one.
[39:28] Speaker 8: And you won't acknowledge it. I acknowledge the fact your
[39:30] Speaker 8: bloke's a prime minister. Don't like it. You're still the
[39:33] Speaker 8: prime minister. And you know what Holly Valance is at
[39:35] Speaker 8: number one in this country again.
[39:37] Speaker 1: One nation's position now is they believe the science of
[39:40] Speaker 1: the music charts and they will back that all the
[39:43] Speaker 1: way in. Malcolm Roberts will be holding parliamentary inquiry.
[39:46] Speaker 12: Only they back in the numbers on climate change, you know,
[39:49] Speaker 12: like why some numbers are not the others? James? Why
[39:52] Speaker 12: is that so?
[39:53] Speaker 1: James?
[39:53] Speaker 5: I want to ask you about our CD sales. We
[39:55] Speaker 5: know that.
[39:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was what I was mentioning before, right this
[39:58] Speaker 1: searge for one nation. It ain't you to surge. It's
[40:00] Speaker 1: mega right now. I said it to Barnaby a couple
[40:04] Speaker 1: of days ago. We know the effect that it's having
[40:05] Speaker 1: on the opposition. Best case scenario, of course for you
[40:08] Speaker 1: is to say, look great, we end up with liberal
[40:10] Speaker 1: national preferences. We end up with essentially even if we
[40:12] Speaker 1: exacts created that'd be a great thing. Likelihood is And
[40:16] Speaker 1: this is what I want to temper some expectations for
[40:18] Speaker 1: some people, is to really grow the numbers in the Senate.
[40:21] Speaker 1: Why because you have the ability to pull the handbrake
[40:23] Speaker 1: up on a government that is in majority by one
[40:25] Speaker 1: or one hundred and equally you're there for six years.
[40:29] Speaker 1: But let's talk about the machine again. I want to
[40:32] Speaker 1: give yourself specific credit as well as everyone else inside
[40:36] Speaker 1: that head office, but I know it's not hundreds of people.
[40:38] Speaker 1: You have built this machine since she was running for
[40:40] Speaker 1: Senate pre twenty sixteen. The cartoon, the movie, the song,
[40:45] Speaker 1: the polls. It ain't a freaking accident. And for those
[40:48] Speaker 1: that want to pretend that somehow, just a couple of
[40:50] Speaker 1: pissed off people have decided to tick a different box
[40:53] Speaker 1: in a poll, they need to work out a lot
[40:56] Speaker 1: of people have broken up and they've done it forever.
[41:02] Speaker 8: Paul, You're right, it has taken eleven years effectively, and
[41:05] Speaker 8: you know we've seen our ups and downs.
[41:08] Speaker 5: Like any political party does.
[41:09] Speaker 8: But I think what we've realized in the last couple
[41:12] Speaker 8: of years at least is you've got to put forward
[41:15] Speaker 8: decent policies. You've got to stick to what you know
[41:18] Speaker 8: and make them available early. Look, we're making an effort
[41:22] Speaker 8: to make sure that we've got good candidates out there
[41:26] Speaker 8: at least eighteen months ahead of this next federal election,
[41:29] Speaker 8: and we're making sure the policies are right. We're making
[41:31] Speaker 8: sure we articulate them correctly and also too, you know,
[41:34] Speaker 8: it's about resources. One thing that one nation has always
[41:37] Speaker 8: struggled with in the past is that ability to have
[41:40] Speaker 8: the resources, financial resources.
[41:42] Speaker 5: To be able to do what we want.
[41:44] Speaker 8: And like the big parties, they've had decades worth of
[41:47] Speaker 8: investments and electoral funding. You know, when one nation got in,
[41:51] Speaker 8: they changed that so that we couldn't build the same
[41:55] Speaker 8: war chest is what they've previously had.
[41:57] Speaker 5: And so we have relied on those mum and.
[41:59] Speaker 8: Dad people out there that have know whata'ched your program
[42:02] Speaker 8: and others and given Pauling that confidence to be able
[42:04] Speaker 8: to get out there. So I say to everybody out
[42:06] Speaker 8: there who's put their money where their mouth is, they've
[42:08] Speaker 8: made the investment in us, it's up to us to deliver,
[42:11] Speaker 8: and I think we are now and it's up to
[42:13] Speaker 8: us over the next two years to just continue growing it.
[42:15] Speaker 8: We are only what five percentage points or so behind
[42:19] Speaker 8: labor at this minute, so you know the primary votes.
[42:22] Speaker 8: There's not much in it, so nothing says to me
[42:26] Speaker 8: that we're on a greater better track than what we
[42:29] Speaker 8: are now.
[42:31] Speaker 5: We'll stick with it.
[42:31] Speaker 1: Again, right, that's sky News Pulse. You'll get it every
[42:34] Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We'll start off the show with it.
[42:36] Speaker 1: It'll be hot and fresh data backed up at sky
[42:38] Speaker 1: news dot com. That are you built with the good
[42:40] Speaker 1: people of you Gov? Thank you very much, lad lady,
[42:42] Speaker 1: Welcome to another fun year on the Telly. All right,
[42:44] Speaker 1: quick break back with more. As you know, there's a
[42:46] Speaker 1: horrible situation playing out in the United States. Another person
[42:49] Speaker 1: that has been shot and killed by the people who
[42:52] Speaker 1: are going after illegal immigrants in the United States. This
[42:55] Speaker 1: is either the line in the sand for some or
[42:59] Speaker 1: just another to look the other way. The person who
[43:01] Speaker 1: can push through it all for us is our dear friend,
[43:03] Speaker 1: and she's now free to speak, even more so than
[43:05] Speaker 1: she's ever been before. Special guest on the program, analyst Nilsen,
[43:09] Speaker 1: live from a very cold and very early morning in Washington, DC. Next. Now,
[43:18] Speaker 1: we've all got really special friends in our lives. But
[43:21] Speaker 1: they're the ones that you know, really love you, and
[43:23] Speaker 1: the ones that are willing to get up at what
[43:25] Speaker 1: eleven minutes to six in the morning in Washington, d C.
[43:28] Speaker 1: Where it is currently minus thirteen degrees. Well, they go
[43:31] Speaker 1: to the front of the queue for the most awesome people.
[43:33] Speaker 1: You know, Analyst Nielson may well be one of them.
[43:35] Speaker 1: In fact, she has gone from being the guy ones
[43:37] Speaker 1: correspondents in Washington now the analyst for US in Washington,
[43:41] Speaker 1: which means just free to say what she thinks. Right
[43:44] Speaker 1: and lovely to see you, mate, You look amazing as
[43:46] Speaker 1: always happening in Welcome to the new role.
[43:51] Speaker 3: Thank you, and I had to get up at five
[43:52] Speaker 3: am for the record. You know this doesn't just make
[43:55] Speaker 3: itself happen.
[43:56] Speaker 1: Hey, it's magic. Right now, let's talk about this Ice
[43:59] Speaker 1: situation because people understand that Donald Trump was hired to
[44:03] Speaker 1: largely get rid of the minions of people who Biden
[44:05] Speaker 1: lit in and close the border. He's closed the border.
[44:08] Speaker 1: Getting rid of them is hard, and we know that
[44:11] Speaker 1: there are super left wing agitators that want to push back. Okay,
[44:16] Speaker 1: But when we get to this scenario where two people
[44:19] Speaker 1: have now been shot and killed, when there's an argument
[44:23] Speaker 1: about the threat that they posed. We're getting to a
[44:27] Speaker 1: scenario now where even the President is apparently starting to
[44:30] Speaker 1: review what might be happening here. Again, you can be
[44:33] Speaker 1: all in on mega and see this for what it is,
[44:36] Speaker 1: which is something that should not have happened, certainly in
[44:40] Speaker 1: the case of the bloke, I.
[44:42] Speaker 3: Say yeah, And it's turned into a bit of don't
[44:48] Speaker 3: believe your lying eyes kind of argument from the initial
[44:52] Speaker 3: reaction from the Trump administration. And I know why they
[44:54] Speaker 3: do this. They want to get out and they want
[44:56] Speaker 3: to have their narrative outfront and center because they don't
[44:58] Speaker 3: trust the media to be accurately reporting what is happening
[45:03] Speaker 3: on the ground. But in an instant like what happened
[45:05] Speaker 3: with this Alex Preddy, there were so many different camera angles.
[45:09] Speaker 3: All these guys have their phones out all the time.
[45:11] Speaker 3: We haven't seen the camera footage yet, and it's not
[45:16] Speaker 3: always an assumption that federal agents wear them. They don't
[45:19] Speaker 3: have to. But it's been confirmed now that they were
[45:21] Speaker 3: wearing camera vests. We haven't seen that. But what we
[45:25] Speaker 3: have seen is that he was on the ground, he
[45:27] Speaker 3: had people over him, he wasn't coming at them in
[45:30] Speaker 3: an aggressive way, he had his firearm taken off him.
[45:33] Speaker 3: And Paul, this is where they've really lost their own base,
[45:36] Speaker 3: the argument that a person in America who's license to
[45:39] Speaker 3: carry a firearm is carrying it in the appropriate way
[45:41] Speaker 3: isn't allowed to go to a protest. I mean, how
[45:44] Speaker 3: many people who go to Marga protests carry a weapon
[45:48] Speaker 3: legally and want that right protected, as is their constitutional right.
[45:52] Speaker 3: And so for the ADMIN to come out and say, well,
[45:55] Speaker 3: he was a terrorist, we know that's not true now
[45:58] Speaker 3: and then to say well he shouldn't have had a gun, Yakes, Yeah, this.
[46:02] Speaker 1: Is just and look and again right, and I'm sure
[46:04] Speaker 1: I'm going to have a spirited discussion with Meg and
[46:06] Speaker 1: Kelly disagrees with both of us when we have a
[46:08] Speaker 1: chat with her tomorrow night. But yes, ultimately, if no
[46:12] Speaker 1: one was there, then there's there's no chance anything's going
[46:14] Speaker 1: to go wrong. But the reality is that they are
[46:17] Speaker 1: allowed to be there because that's the joy of a
[46:19] Speaker 1: free country. Again, I understand the people who say you
[46:26] Speaker 1: can't give an inch. You can't give an inch because
[46:28] Speaker 1: the people are up against in terms of the protest.
[46:30] Speaker 1: They're crazy. They're like next level crazy, and they get
[46:33] Speaker 1: in our face and they blow the whistles and they
[46:35] Speaker 1: dox us and they all all the rest of her
[46:37] Speaker 1: I understand. But the difference between the average person being
[46:40] Speaker 1: confronted with this and people who are supposedly trained law
[46:44] Speaker 1: enforcement is that those circumstances don't affect their judgment about
[46:50] Speaker 1: whether something is a lethal threat or not.
[46:56] Speaker 3: Yes, And I mean when we talk about trained law enforcement,
[46:59] Speaker 3: that's one of the questions here. They've had such a
[47:01] Speaker 3: big push to recruit so many of these ICE agents.
[47:06] Speaker 3: Many of them are out there after having eight weeks
[47:08] Speaker 3: of training and very little required as part of the
[47:12] Speaker 3: actual application process. If you've already been in some kind
[47:14] Speaker 3: of law enforcement, they'll fast track you. There's sign on
[47:18] Speaker 3: bonuses authorized by the Big Beautiful Bill up to fifty
[47:21] Speaker 3: thousand dollars. There's a lot of incentives for people to
[47:23] Speaker 3: be out there, and it's a really hard job. They
[47:26] Speaker 3: have really intense quoters to be trying to get the
[47:30] Speaker 3: number of people arrested, and it doesn't really matter if
[47:33] Speaker 3: they are actually processed and then deported. It's just getting
[47:36] Speaker 3: those people detained and so there's a lot of systemic
[47:38] Speaker 3: issues and it's not necessarily the fault of the agents
[47:42] Speaker 3: on the ground. They have a really tough job. And
[47:43] Speaker 3: most people do support the idea that the borders were
[47:47] Speaker 3: out of control and that there does need to be
[47:50] Speaker 3: some kind of reversal around this, that there are too
[47:53] Speaker 3: many people here that shouldn't have come here. But it's
[47:56] Speaker 3: the method of how they're doing it is the big
[47:59] Speaker 3: question here. And I mean, I've watched so many of
[48:02] Speaker 3: these videos and when these people say we're legal observers, yes,
[48:05] Speaker 3: so a journalist. We've had training in this, and these
[48:08] Speaker 3: people are doing a lot of stuff I would never do.
[48:11] Speaker 3: We've been trained not to do. And certainly, ever ever,
[48:13] Speaker 3: blocking egress for someone to get out is a huge
[48:17] Speaker 3: no no. And they should know that if they were
[48:21] Speaker 3: and you know, so many of these people call themselves
[48:23] Speaker 3: journalists when they go out too, and it is painful
[48:25] Speaker 3: when you go to these protests and you're kind of
[48:26] Speaker 3: lumped in with these citizen journalists who are there to provoke,
[48:30] Speaker 3: who were there to aggravate, who are there to lobby,
[48:32] Speaker 3: and that's not what a legal observer does. But when
[48:35] Speaker 3: it comes to this Alex Preddy. He really just seemed
[48:38] Speaker 3: like he was on the sidelines filming. That's a First
[48:40] Speaker 3: Amendment right in this country, you have the right, and
[48:43] Speaker 3: so it just becomes really hard to defend. And that's
[48:46] Speaker 3: why we're seeing so many Republicans saying now, like we
[48:49] Speaker 3: need to look into this.
[48:50] Speaker 1: A bit more. Now, this chat has gone too quickly.
[48:52] Speaker 1: I know mom and dad are watching at home, so
[48:54] Speaker 1: big shout out to them. It's too cold. It took
[48:56] Speaker 1: too long for you to get ready. So can we
[48:58] Speaker 1: just find some way, you know, we'll do lock three
[49:00] Speaker 1: our weekly podcast or something, because I can't wait to
[49:03] Speaker 1: talk to you more and more. I love chatting to you.
[49:05] Speaker 1: I love seeing you in A big hug from everyone
[49:07] Speaker 1: at home. Okay, Dot, thanks Pauly, see your lady. She's
[49:11] Speaker 1: the best, isn't she? And Alise Nielson now the Washington
[49:15] Speaker 1: analyst joining us from too early in the morning where
[49:18] Speaker 1: it's too cold, and I now, oh one, you'll see
[49:21] Speaker 1: a weekly on the show moren is it? Just before
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