# Paul Murray Live | 16 October

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 16 Oct 2025, 49 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/30728be7-1c80-4abd-a86d-b37800c6a72b/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Australia's unemployment rate goes up, marking the highest level since November 2021. Plus, Anthony Albanese to face US President Donald Trump over climate tax. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:05] Speaker 2: Hey you Happy Thursday, Come on end of the man k.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Lots of Telly We've got for you tonight, including Leah
[0:11] Speaker 2: fanooki Aro. I can't praise this lady enough, and yet
[0:14] Speaker 2: again she has shown why her type of leadership is
[0:18] Speaker 2: the future of the center right of Australian politics. She
[0:22] Speaker 2: gave it to the labor today and I mean gave it
[0:24] Speaker 2: to them today. I'll explain why in a moment or two.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Is time debate this evening between Michael Kroger and Joe Hildebrand.
[0:30] Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll agree on everything. And our lovely way
[0:32] Speaker 2: to end our week each and every week is to
[0:34] Speaker 2: talk about lovely Irish mate Colin Flynn. It's always got
[0:36] Speaker 2: a lovely story to end off our week. It's a
[0:38] Speaker 2: way to send you off to a weekend with a
[0:41] Speaker 2: smile and speaking your weekend. It's not this one, but
[0:43] Speaker 2: next one. We are going to be in the act.
[0:45] Speaker 2: I'd love to see you at in our town. Not
[0:47] Speaker 2: this Sunday, but the next one September of sorry October
[0:50] Speaker 2: the twenty sixth.
[0:52] Speaker 1: Tickets are free.
[0:53] Speaker 2: But they are available to the hard course, which means
[0:55] Speaker 2: send me an email right now.
[0:57] Speaker 1: Ourtown that's gone is dot com dot Au.
[0:59] Speaker 2: Next day in the act if he can get their police,
[1:02] Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to see you. We've got
[1:03] Speaker 2: some fun things to get to but first, the most
[1:08] Speaker 2: important news today is that another member of the Australian
[1:11] Speaker 2: Defense Force will not be coming home. There was an
[1:14] Speaker 2: accident that took place last night and it did so
[1:17] Speaker 2: not too far from Townsville. A soldier has died after
[1:22] Speaker 2: a vehicle that they were training in had rolled over
[1:25] Speaker 2: in the Townsville Field training area. This was what we
[1:28] Speaker 2: heard from the Army today and for obvious reasons, it's
[1:30] Speaker 2: how we start our show this evening.
[1:33] Speaker 3: On behalf of the Australian Army, I would like to
[1:35] Speaker 3: express my sincere condolences to the soldier's family, to his
[1:40] Speaker 3: loved ones and to his mates. We grieve with them,
[1:45] Speaker 3: we grieve for him, and we stand ready, resolute, determined
[1:51] Speaker 3: to honor his service.
[1:54] Speaker 2: We will and truly do strength and love to his
[1:56] Speaker 2: family who were dealing with the worst possible outcome, of course,
[2:00] Speaker 2: not at war, but in a training accident. A little
[2:03] Speaker 2: more information we got from the Army today about exactly
[2:05] Speaker 2: what happened here.
[2:07] Speaker 3: So we're conducting a crew commander's course in the training area.
[2:11] Speaker 3: It is a routine training activity for the third Battalion
[2:14] Speaker 3: to or all a strained regiment our arm at Infantry Battalion,
[2:17] Speaker 3: and that is when the incident occurred. It's too early
[2:21] Speaker 3: to tell what caused it are the circumstances around it.
[2:24] Speaker 3: We need to let the relevant agencies, the relevant bodies,
[2:27] Speaker 3: to conduct their full investigation so that we can take
[2:30] Speaker 3: note of what they come.
[2:32] Speaker 2: The soldier's name is Tulsa Rumney. Again nothing but strength
[2:36] Speaker 2: and love to his family who are dealing with the
[2:39] Speaker 2: loss as well as the Wider Defense Force, yet again
[2:43] Speaker 2: dealing with the loss of somebody who did not die
[2:44] Speaker 2: at war, but instead died in the preparation and training
[2:48] Speaker 2: of it. To the Wider Defense Force family, we thank
[2:51] Speaker 2: you forever for what you do. Just like the police
[2:54] Speaker 2: and the emergency services, you men and women run towards danger.
[2:58] Speaker 2: You embody the best of us, and because of the
[3:00] Speaker 2: work that you do, we are all able to sleep
[3:02] Speaker 2: as calmly as we do each and every night. So again,
[3:05] Speaker 2: the obvious recognition at the start of the show about
[3:08] Speaker 2: the most important thing that happened in Australia today. Now
[3:13] Speaker 2: to the Northern Territory Chief Minister and why I keep
[3:16] Speaker 2: heeping praise on the lady. Leah Fanukiaro is young in
[3:19] Speaker 2: political terms, she's only just over the age of forty.
[3:24] Speaker 2: We've spoken to her plenty of times on the show,
[3:26] Speaker 2: both from the man Cave and when we have been
[3:28] Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory Darwin specifically. She's an absolute rock star.
[3:32] Speaker 2: Right apart from being an awesome human being, she is
[3:36] Speaker 2: exactly in the right place on the issues that we
[3:38] Speaker 2: know you care about. For example, there will be no
[3:42] Speaker 2: confusion about who goes to a prison in the Northern Territory.
[3:48] Speaker 4: Here in the Northern Territory, if you're a bloat, you
[3:50] Speaker 4: go to a men's prison. If you're a woman, you
[3:52] Speaker 4: go to women's prison.
[3:55] Speaker 2: Now, there has been some outrage among the left, and
[3:57] Speaker 2: believe me, there are plenty of people who are in
[4:00] Speaker 2: around Darwin, including the richest of people who've been the
[4:04] Speaker 2: first people in the territory's history to put a Greens
[4:07] Speaker 2: MP into the Parliament. There are, of course, plenty of
[4:10] Speaker 2: woke public servants and there are the people who represent
[4:13] Speaker 2: them in Parliament, being the Labor Party. Now remember the
[4:16] Speaker 2: Labor Party is in opposition because it lost its focus.
[4:22] Speaker 2: It tried to woke afy the law and order situation
[4:26] Speaker 2: that the people of the Northern Territory clearly had enough
[4:28] Speaker 2: of and absolutely decimated the Labor Party from Alice Springs
[4:33] Speaker 2: all the way to Darwin and many points in between.
[4:38] Speaker 2: So today the Labor Party decided, no lessons learned, We're
[4:41] Speaker 2: going to get a few free kicks on the ABC,
[4:44] Speaker 2: a few claps on Blue Sky because they are on
[4:47] Speaker 2: Twitter anymore?
[4:48] Speaker 1: Are they the lefties? So this was the question that
[4:51] Speaker 1: was led by the Opposition leader today.
[4:55] Speaker 5: Chief Minister, I condemn your divisive comments about our territory
[4:59] Speaker 5: trans community, and my question to you is why have
[5:02] Speaker 5: you misled territorians and the public and once again stomped
[5:06] Speaker 5: down on minority groups to get a headline instead of
[5:09] Speaker 5: leading for all Territorians.
[5:12] Speaker 2: The territories trans community. She's talking about people who are
[5:16] Speaker 2: in prison. She is talking about people specifically who are
[5:21] Speaker 2: in prison for significant crimes in and around things like
[5:26] Speaker 2: sexual assault. Well again, why is Lea Fanukiaro a star?
[5:32] Speaker 2: Because when most politicians will begin the process of weasel
[5:36] Speaker 2: wording and backing down, she hits it out.
[5:39] Speaker 1: Of the park.
[5:41] Speaker 4: Under Labor. If you identified as a woman and you
[5:45] Speaker 4: were a man, Labor was happy to put you in
[5:49] Speaker 4: the women's section of the prison. And I think the
[5:51] Speaker 4: question needs to be asked, Labor didn't let Territorians know
[5:55] Speaker 4: about that change. How do our community feel about what
[5:59] Speaker 4: Labor did. It's not just Territory Labor who drank the
[6:03] Speaker 4: social engineering cool aid and ended up in opposition, Madam Speaker,
[6:06] Speaker 4: this is happening right across this country.
[6:09] Speaker 2: I know we don't play baseball in Australia, we certainly
[6:12] Speaker 2: some people do. Trevor Jackson, relax, I get it. I
[6:15] Speaker 2: know how much you love the sport. But feeding them
[6:17] Speaker 2: bang or a full six if you want to talk cricket,
[6:20] Speaker 2: well done.
[6:21] Speaker 1: She's a star. Let's get her on the show in
[6:22] Speaker 1: the next few days.
[6:23] Speaker 2: All right, now, quite on the upper side, other side
[6:27] Speaker 2: of things, And in terms of leadership, you have the premiere
[6:29] Speaker 2: of Victoria as wok as it gets, but leading in
[6:33] Speaker 2: the polls because of the triangle of dependency where nine
[6:37] Speaker 2: out of ten jobs being created in Victoria are being
[6:40] Speaker 2: paid for by the government who's trying to pretend that
[6:44] Speaker 2: she can pull the Jedi mind trick these are not
[6:47] Speaker 2: the droids you're looking for. That she can pretend that
[6:49] Speaker 2: she is one of the men in black who've got
[6:51] Speaker 2: that little thing to make you forget the obvious.
[6:56] Speaker 4: The CBD of Melbourne is say, in Victoria, community safety
[7:01] Speaker 4: comes first, the right to be safe in public, keeping
[7:03] Speaker 4: our community safe.
[7:07] Speaker 1: Look, the premiere is not clearly personally responsible for each
[7:11] Speaker 1: and every crime, but when they rack up and rack
[7:14] Speaker 1: up and rack up, there's got to be some recognition
[7:16] Speaker 1: that something is wrong in Victoria. Now we learned today by.
[7:24] Speaker 2: The reporting of Paul Dowsley at the Seven Network of
[7:28] Speaker 2: a stabbing that had been caught on video. Now the
[7:32] Speaker 2: person who is alleged to have committed it is currently
[7:35] Speaker 2: before the courts.
[7:37] Speaker 1: The footage that.
[7:37] Speaker 2: I'm about to show you is distressing, is shocking, is uncomfortable.
[7:41] Speaker 2: But you have to see it because if you believe
[7:44] Speaker 2: the premiere, there's nothing to see here. If you believe
[7:46] Speaker 2: your own eyes, there is.
[7:50] Speaker 1: A random, unprovoked stabbing in Melbourne.
[7:53] Speaker 6: A woman attacked from behind by another woman with a
[7:56] Speaker 6: knife and left with a punctured lung. It happened here
[7:59] Speaker 6: on the little Berg Street, just near Spencer Street, as
[8:02] Speaker 6: the thirty six year old victim was walking to work
[8:05] Speaker 6: at seven thirty five am. She ended up in a
[8:08] Speaker 6: hospital for three days and had been living in an
[8:11] Speaker 6: apartment nearby.
[8:13] Speaker 2: Now, part of the problem that is a problem for
[8:15] Speaker 2: the premier is that remember the premier had claimed that
[8:19] Speaker 2: she was going to fix the bail system. Want to
[8:23] Speaker 2: know the clanger about this story?
[8:25] Speaker 1: Roll the tape.
[8:27] Speaker 6: CCTV captured the attacker running off down Spencer Street with
[8:31] Speaker 6: her blade still out.
[8:33] Speaker 7: Police say she was.
[8:34] Speaker 6: On bail for other offenses at the time.
[8:38] Speaker 2: Victoria, it ain't up to me to shift voters. It
[8:42] Speaker 2: is up to you to convince your mates. This can't
[8:46] Speaker 2: keep happening. Now, if you look at places in the
[8:50] Speaker 2: United States where you go hang on, She's how does
[8:52] Speaker 2: it end up like Chicago? How does it end up
[8:54] Speaker 2: like San Francisco? Because they keep voting for the same
[8:57] Speaker 2: government all the time. There is no consequences. The reality
[9:02] Speaker 2: is is that you've got to make a change.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Now.
[9:05] Speaker 2: I think it is despicable how the opposition has totally
[9:10] Speaker 2: thrown away its capacity over the past four years to
[9:12] Speaker 2: build itself into a credible alternative government. And I completely
[9:16] Speaker 2: understand that, But how can any serious Victorian decide to
[9:21] Speaker 2: keep the same people in place who've already promised to
[9:23] Speaker 2: change the system that keeps failing. They have been caught
[9:27] Speaker 2: out not telling the truth on this matter many many times,
[9:31] Speaker 2: not to mention the Triple O system that was reduced
[9:34] Speaker 2: to pen and paper again this week, not to mention
[9:38] Speaker 2: the anti corruption organizations who beild the cat, and even
[9:43] Speaker 2: a survey of people in the Victorian Parliament says that
[9:47] Speaker 2: the joint needs to change now. I hope that people
[9:52] Speaker 2: stand up between now and an election the best part
[9:54] Speaker 2: of twelve months away, but are currently, according to the polls,
[9:57] Speaker 2: more of the same, which I do not under because
[10:01] Speaker 2: there are many decent people in Victoria who are just
[10:02] Speaker 2: as frustrated as you and I. But the reality is
[10:06] Speaker 2: you've got to convince your neighbor, you've got to convince
[10:07] Speaker 2: your mates, you've got to convince your family. It is
[10:10] Speaker 2: time for a change, as it was last time, but
[10:12] Speaker 2: well and truly this time, because it's yet another fork
[10:15] Speaker 2: in the road and there is a bad option.
[10:19] Speaker 1: We learned today that unemployment has hit a one two three.
[10:22] Speaker 2: Four year high, but nothing to see here, great economics,
[10:26] Speaker 2: what a surprise. Inflation is back up, Unemployment is back
[10:29] Speaker 2: up all after the election because they got through the election.
[10:32] Speaker 2: People fell for it. We've turned the corner of the
[10:34] Speaker 2: economy is great. The unemployment rate is now up to
[10:38] Speaker 2: four point five percent. In fact, the total number of
[10:41] Speaker 2: unemployed males in the past month went up by a
[10:44] Speaker 2: couple of football stadiums twenty four thousand in who are
[10:50] Speaker 2: blokes and ten thousand more women added to the unemployment cues.
[10:56] Speaker 2: Zoo Mackenzie was on our heir tonight, on the behalf
[10:58] Speaker 2: of the opposition.
[11:00] Speaker 8: So this government is pump priming with public money employment
[11:04] Speaker 8: and yet we're still going backwards. That's what needs to
[11:08] Speaker 8: be remembered. People are doing it tough. They're now losing
[11:11] Speaker 8: their jobs.
[11:13] Speaker 2: But of course there's nothing to see here if you
[11:14] Speaker 2: ask the greatest government of all time.
[11:17] Speaker 9: Well, look, certainly any increase in unemployment isn't welcome. But
[11:21] Speaker 9: putting this number in context, let's remember that the Australian
[11:24] Speaker 9: economy is one of the best performing economies in the world.
[11:28] Speaker 9: We have some of the lowest unemployment.
[11:32] Speaker 1: This is the Biden nomics stuff, right. Oh, the numbers
[11:34] Speaker 1: coming out of canber are so much better than the
[11:36] Speaker 1: lived reality. Problem is people fell for it. People bought it.
[11:40] Speaker 2: This is one of the areas where the federal opposition
[11:42] Speaker 2: has to become credible again not just people that are
[11:45] Speaker 2: able to point out what the problems are. But that's
[11:47] Speaker 2: just what the answers may will be. I love the
[11:51] Speaker 2: idea that, again you find five different economists, you get
[11:54] Speaker 2: five different opinions. Well, but it's a better idea that
[11:56] Speaker 2: more people are looking.
[11:57] Speaker 1: For a job. Any problem is they can't find one.
[12:00] Speaker 2: Oh but you know what, another great idea would be
[12:02] Speaker 2: more people to add to the cue, more people to
[12:04] Speaker 2: come on in, so the competition for the jobs gets harder.
[12:07] Speaker 2: But you know that would be a disgraceful thing to say. Meantime,
[12:11] Speaker 2: what about this little klanger?
[12:12] Speaker 10: Now?
[12:12] Speaker 2: I remember last year I told you about this that
[12:15] Speaker 2: Australia may well become part of sort of an international
[12:19] Speaker 2: carbon tax. Now we know where this politics has gone
[12:22] Speaker 2: in the past. But remember the Australian politicians who went
[12:27] Speaker 2: nuts when the United States tried to introduce tariffs. And
[12:30] Speaker 2: this is exactly what we'll be talking about here. But
[12:33] Speaker 2: when Donald Trump does it, it's orange Man bad, Orange
[12:37] Speaker 2: Man mad.
[12:39] Speaker 11: Such a decision by the Trump administration is entirely unjustified.
[12:45] Speaker 1: This is a global tariff.
[12:47] Speaker 5: We think it is unprovoked and unjustified, and I know
[12:50] Speaker 5: it's not good for the American economy and it's not
[12:52] Speaker 5: the way to treat a friend and partner.
[12:54] Speaker 11: We have been very clear that we do not regard
[12:58] Speaker 11: this as the act of a friend.
[13:00] Speaker 1: But what's one thing that changes the conversation, Well, you know.
[13:06] Speaker 11: Climate change, climate change, climate change.
[13:09] Speaker 12: Climate change, climate change, climate change, and our old mate
[13:13] Speaker 12: Chris Bowen because Australia now this is in many ways
[13:17] Speaker 12: being served up as a potential issue that's going to
[13:19] Speaker 12: pee off the Americans, particularly when the meeting happens between
[13:22] Speaker 12: the President and the Prime Minister next week.
[13:24] Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. For the record,
[13:26] Speaker 2: may I get it in nice and early. I think
[13:29] Speaker 2: that meeting is going to go very well. Why because
[13:31] Speaker 2: everyone knows how to play anyway. Australia is going to
[13:34] Speaker 2: stare down Trump's threats over a new global carbon tax. Again,
[13:38] Speaker 2: you didn't vote on this at the last election. Australia
[13:43] Speaker 2: will stare down the Trump administration's threat to punish nations
[13:46] Speaker 2: that back an international pact to impose a carbon price
[13:49] Speaker 2: on international shipping. I et A tariff. When something comes
[13:55] Speaker 2: from a part of the world or is delivered by
[13:58] Speaker 2: a company that ain't doing its part, there'll be a
[14:03] Speaker 2: world of trouble. The Channel nine newspapers today learned from
[14:08] Speaker 2: two sources unable to speak publicly about these sensitive and
[14:11] Speaker 2: fluid negotiations, that Australia will probably press ahead with support
[14:14] Speaker 2: for the scheme. Now, this scheme is not going to
[14:16] Speaker 2: be signed off in the next couple of months. It
[14:19] Speaker 2: may well happen in the next twenty four hours because
[14:21] Speaker 2: it's going to be voted on a meeting of the
[14:23] Speaker 2: International Maritime Organization in London Thursday Australian time, meaning kind
[14:29] Speaker 2: of now known as Shippings Net Zero framework. That proposed
[14:35] Speaker 2: scheme is a cap and trade system that imposes financial
[14:38] Speaker 2: penalties on companies whose ships exceeded mission limits and rewards
[14:43] Speaker 2: those who make cuts below their target. So if the
[14:47] Speaker 2: freight cost is going to cost more because of the
[14:49] Speaker 2: carbon tax, guess what you will pay, because that's what happens.
[14:54] Speaker 2: International shipping emissions are not counted against a nation's carbon budget,
[14:58] Speaker 2: but it count for about three percent of global emissions,
[15:01] Speaker 2: so they're already three times higher than the entire country of.
[15:04] Speaker 1: Australia, but don't talk about it.
[15:06] Speaker 2: University College London research has found that the tax would
[15:09] Speaker 2: generate twelve b for billion dollars a year between twenty
[15:14] Speaker 2: eight and thirty which is when most penalties would be
[15:18] Speaker 2: incurred as shipping companies adjust their fleets to comply a
[15:21] Speaker 2: global carbon tax. Of but we're not charging countries, we're
[15:27] Speaker 2: charging the people who do the shipping.
[15:29] Speaker 1: And if they've got.
[15:30] Speaker 2: A dirty boat, then we'll hit that company. Well, that
[15:34] Speaker 2: company will of course send it on to the client
[15:37] Speaker 2: and you the customer, for whatever the hell is in
[15:39] Speaker 2: those shipping containers. And let's be honest, Australia imports more
[15:42] Speaker 2: than we export for most times of the year. It
[15:46] Speaker 2: means that you will end up paying. Now, of course,
[15:49] Speaker 2: there's no way that Australia would turn around, and if
[15:53] Speaker 2: they were serious about trying to create a price disincentive
[15:57] Speaker 2: to force climate perhaps they would focus in on on
[15:59] Speaker 2: the nation that actually are producing the most problems. In
[16:03] Speaker 2: that case, we would have a scenario where everything that
[16:06] Speaker 2: comes in from China, regardless of what voto comes in,
[16:10] Speaker 2: would be more expensive. Why because, as you know, Australia's
[16:13] Speaker 2: one percent of the world's problems China thirty three, the
[16:18] Speaker 2: Third World twenty. That's half, the United States thirteen, India seven,
[16:24] Speaker 2: Russia five, So forty five minutes of the climate clock
[16:27] Speaker 2: is a problem here a global carbon tax being discussed
[16:33] Speaker 2: and potentially voted on as early as by the time
[16:37] Speaker 2: you wake up tomorrow. You know how much I love
[16:41] Speaker 2: Queensland and Jesus's fantastic For a year now that awful
[16:45] Speaker 2: Labor government that was there with Anastasia Palichet and the
[16:48] Speaker 2: idiot who replaced Stephen Miles is gone. Queensland is well
[16:53] Speaker 2: and truly on the move, which is good to see
[16:55] Speaker 2: because David Crucifully is its premiere. You know how hard
[16:59] Speaker 2: we push for it, how much I support it, and
[17:00] Speaker 2: you know how much has been well there I say,
[17:03] Speaker 2: kicking goals ever since there has.
[17:04] Speaker 1: Been that change.
[17:06] Speaker 2: Well, interestingly, an opinion poll again three years out from
[17:08] Speaker 2: the next election, is starting to show that the difference
[17:11] Speaker 2: between the primary vote of Labor and the Liberals is
[17:13] Speaker 2: starting to get back close together. One nation Greens teals
[17:17] Speaker 2: all the rest of It's still pretty good.
[17:18] Speaker 1: But have a look at this. The net likability i e.
[17:23] Speaker 2: Once you put approval and then put next to disapproval,
[17:27] Speaker 2: where do you end up? David Cruci Fuley flying high,
[17:30] Speaker 2: and while Miles has come back from the brink, he
[17:34] Speaker 2: still is in negative territory. But if the Labor Party
[17:38] Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form, is planning on getting
[17:41] Speaker 2: back in the real game, Miles ain't the answer, because
[17:44] Speaker 2: remember he's the bloke who drove it into the ground.
[17:46] Speaker 2: Preferred premiere thirty nine percent say Crucier fully. Thirty nine
[17:50] Speaker 2: percent are still undecided. Just twenty two percent of people
[17:54] Speaker 2: say that Stephen Mile should return, as the premier told
[17:58] Speaker 2: your Coensander has had a good BS detector, even if
[18:01] Speaker 2: it was a little wonky at the last federal election. Now,
[18:06] Speaker 2: if you live anywhere near a school or that's the
[18:08] Speaker 2: way you've got to go on the way to work,
[18:09] Speaker 2: let alone, if you've got kids or grandkids that you
[18:12] Speaker 2: are dropping off, you know that school drop off looks
[18:16] Speaker 2: a little different than maybe when you were doing it
[18:18] Speaker 2: with your kids, or you were the kid that it
[18:20] Speaker 2: was being done too. In fact, many people watching this
[18:23] Speaker 2: program were not dropped off at school. You of course
[18:27] Speaker 2: walked caught the bus, walked through snow, walked up and
[18:31] Speaker 2: down Mount Casiosco four time.
[18:34] Speaker 1: You know in the rain with no shoes on.
[18:36] Speaker 2: We get the stories about how tough it all used
[18:38] Speaker 2: to be when we went to school, but things are
[18:40] Speaker 2: very different now, and it does say a lot about
[18:44] Speaker 2: something that I find a little odd about parents that
[18:47] Speaker 2: are in and around my age. As few as two
[18:53] Speaker 2: out of ten kids are actually making their own way
[18:55] Speaker 2: to school. The remainder are being dropped off at the
[18:58] Speaker 2: door by a mummy or by daddy. University of Sydney
[19:03] Speaker 2: says here that sixty two percent of kids in public
[19:07] Speaker 2: primary schools are dropped off at the door, seventy five
[19:11] Speaker 2: percent of private school students. In terms of high schools,
[19:15] Speaker 2: if you go to a public high school, it's forty
[19:17] Speaker 2: two percent. If you go to a private high school
[19:20] Speaker 2: it's fifty seven percent. Now again, I am a parent
[19:26] Speaker 2: of two little beautiful girls who go to primary school
[19:29] Speaker 2: and occasion they'll make their own arrangements, but they too
[19:34] Speaker 2: are like many are being dropped off.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Why because it's easier.
[19:37] Speaker 2: It's fine right not having a garment, missus or anyone else.
[19:40] Speaker 2: But can somebody please tell me? And I don't know
[19:42] Speaker 2: whether I'll ever be able to write.
[19:44] Speaker 1: A tweet, a play a song, or just graffiti.
[19:48] Speaker 2: Somewhere Generation X was the freest of all the generations
[19:53] Speaker 2: in terms of our abilities to make our own way
[19:57] Speaker 2: to school. Right when you know that, I know that,
[20:00] Speaker 2: Why is it that when that generation, my generation became
[20:03] Speaker 2: parents whom the kids I don't understand, the freest generation
[20:10] Speaker 2: in living memory is now the most overly protective when
[20:13] Speaker 2: it becomes to pearans. If you have a theory, and
[20:15] Speaker 2: I'm sure you may send me an email. Okay, Poulitsgodnews
[20:17] Speaker 2: dot com dot aupoulitsgudews dot com dot au. Now remember
[20:23] Speaker 2: that Sheila who is on our way or trying to
[20:25] Speaker 2: become the next governor of California. Her name is Katie Porter,
[20:28] Speaker 2: and as you may remember, or if not, may I
[20:31] Speaker 2: introduce you she is someone with a rather short temper. Famously,
[20:35] Speaker 2: she was asked the same question as everyone else, who
[20:39] Speaker 2: is trying to be the Democratic nominee, thus the inevitable
[20:42] Speaker 2: next governor of California? And she cracked the Harry Hits.
[20:47] Speaker 8: What do you say to the forty percent of California
[20:49] Speaker 8: voters who you'll need in order to win who voted
[20:52] Speaker 8: for Trump?
[20:54] Speaker 13: How would I need them in order to run a man?
[20:56] Speaker 14: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
[20:59] Speaker 14: of the vote.
[21:00] Speaker 13: I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call
[21:02] Speaker 13: it thank you.
[21:05] Speaker 10: You're not gonna do the interview with.
[21:07] Speaker 1: Them, not like this.
[21:08] Speaker 13: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
[21:10] Speaker 13: question you ask.
[21:11] Speaker 2: I mean, she's really got one of those charming personalities
[21:14] Speaker 2: that would burn a palm tree, right, and there's plenty
[21:17] Speaker 2: of those in California. Well, once that little exchange was
[21:21] Speaker 2: out and about, we got to see the way she's
[21:23] Speaker 2: truly been treating the little people who work for her.
[21:26] Speaker 2: Remember this from a zoom conversation.
[21:30] Speaker 13: The air pollution and other problems and the state could lose.
[21:35] Speaker 4: You're out of my thought.
[21:38] Speaker 1: Charming, charming lady.
[21:40] Speaker 2: And if you need another person's opinion about how charming
[21:43] Speaker 2: this lady is, Joe Rogan.
[21:46] Speaker 10: This lady who's running for governor of California, This crazy
[21:50] Speaker 10: lady Porter, Katie Porter that screams at her staff get
[21:53] Speaker 10: out of she looks like the way she talks, Like
[21:58] Speaker 10: the way she talks when when the cameras are rolling
[22:01] Speaker 10: and she doesn't think anybody's going to see it, Like
[22:04] Speaker 10: what a monster is the worst?
[22:07] Speaker 2: Well, she's trying to put the train back on the tracks,
[22:10] Speaker 2: and today she was doing a sort of.
[22:12] Speaker 1: Sorry to her.
[22:13] Speaker 2: But if you've ever worked with one of those people
[22:15] Speaker 2: who you know has been given the third and final
[22:18] Speaker 2: warning and they're doing their best to try to desperately
[22:21] Speaker 2: keep that little monster inside, you know that while she's
[22:25] Speaker 2: sort of saying sorry, it's kind of as authentic as
[22:29] Speaker 2: a footballer's apology. And geez, doesn't it come through gritted
[22:32] Speaker 2: teeth of that oh so wonderful personality.
[22:37] Speaker 13: Can fillers be confident that there won't be another one
[22:39] Speaker 13: of those videos that's going to come to late? What
[22:43] Speaker 13: I do know is that I could have done better
[22:45] Speaker 13: on that situal does not to know. So is there
[22:47] Speaker 13: potentially another video that we're going to see and that
[22:50] Speaker 13: video was several years ago, as you know, And apologize
[22:54] Speaker 13: to the staff for that's super important to me, and
[22:57] Speaker 13: will continue to try to hold myself to do better.
[23:00] Speaker 1: That's what I can promise.
[23:02] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's all in the past. I mean, she's
[23:05] Speaker 2: a completely new broom right then. My favorite thing, my
[23:09] Speaker 2: favorite thing somebody did today was that they got a
[23:13] Speaker 2: laptop and they showed her the comments of a person
[23:18] Speaker 2: who's pretty influential in around the conversation of the Democrats.
[23:21] Speaker 2: Not particularly a famous face around the world, but he's
[23:24] Speaker 2: a guy that I enjoy listening to myself. His name
[23:26] Speaker 2: is Dan Turlinide and watch her face, and you know
[23:32] Speaker 2: she just wants to go come boom.
[23:36] Speaker 14: You have to start with mark the fact that, like
[23:39] Speaker 14: you have to sit and ask questions and have respect
[23:42] Speaker 14: for the person who's asking you questions. She doesn't respect
[23:45] Speaker 14: Trump voters and she didn't respect those type of questions.
[23:49] Speaker 14: You just can't talk to people like that.
[23:51] Speaker 13: Response to that, I'm working hard to make sure the
[23:54] Speaker 13: Californians know what kind of governor I'm going to be.
[23:58] Speaker 1: I enjoy the discomfort you.
[24:02] Speaker 2: Now, of course, there are plenty of people around U saying,
[24:04] Speaker 2: well Trump can get away by doing it, and so why
[24:05] Speaker 2: can't she?
[24:05] Speaker 1: That clearly must be sexist.
[24:08] Speaker 2: No, he might just be better at handling the slings
[24:12] Speaker 2: and arrows than she is. She's previously said in these
[24:14] Speaker 2: interviews that she only wants a pleasant experience, a little
[24:18] Speaker 2: bit like a Labor Party person going on the ABC. Now,
[24:23] Speaker 2: as always, you've been working hard, But the people who
[24:26] Speaker 2: write the laws of this country, I'm going to say,
[24:28] Speaker 2: sometimes don't work as hard as you do shocking, I know,
[24:32] Speaker 2: and you are paying for them to have an extra
[24:34] Speaker 2: staff member whose sole responsibility is to make bad social
[24:39] Speaker 2: media videos like this one from the health minister, or
[24:52] Speaker 2: this one.
[24:54] Speaker 1: This pot like lunch. I'm going to bring a half oven.
[24:57] Speaker 2: Bag of cold popcorn because it's still five percent deposits
[25:02] Speaker 2: for first home buyers.
[25:04] Speaker 15: Sally here bringing cheaper contraceptives to the Potlark.
[25:07] Speaker 3: Charlotte, and I'm bringing twenty percent off your accept to
[25:10] Speaker 3: the poplark.
[25:13] Speaker 1: You eat some of these whatever, whatever, whatever, get it.
[25:16] Speaker 1: We're almost We're almost done for the week with these people.
[25:19] Speaker 1: Come on, we've got one more.
[25:21] Speaker 16: I want to play a little game with you.
[25:22] Speaker 13: How does that sound.
[25:23] Speaker 1: Let's do it, Joe, excellent.
[25:25] Speaker 13: I am going to I'd say we're a phrase.
[25:27] Speaker 7: I want you to say what immediately comes a cups?
[25:31] Speaker 1: Fine, well, let's see how we go.
[25:32] Speaker 9: Are you ready?
[25:33] Speaker 1: No, I'm not sure.
[25:34] Speaker 13: Sorry.
[25:35] Speaker 1: First one is maddicare prety caare. That's giving everybody the
[25:39] Speaker 1: healthcare that they need.
[25:42] Speaker 2: You work, they get paid, and the people who work
[25:45] Speaker 2: for them get paid to treat everyone like they're watching
[25:49] Speaker 2: an episode of play School.
[25:51] Speaker 1: Do better, do better? I will do better with the
[25:54] Speaker 1: throw next time. Let's to get to tonight including Yeah.
[25:58] Speaker 2: This global carbon tax, sorry when did this come about?
[26:01] Speaker 1: Could be confirmed as early as by the time you
[26:03] Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow.
[26:03] Speaker 2: We'll talk about it and among other things with joe
[26:06] Speaker 2: Hildebrand Michael Kroger. They will also crown the winner and
[26:09] Speaker 2: loser of the week stand by it just getting started
[26:11] Speaker 2: having fun. Thank you so much, show. I just paused
[26:19] Speaker 2: the snitz of leading right now, which I know many
[26:21] Speaker 2: of you are doing, because we've got a real meal
[26:23] Speaker 2: fea now have a look.
[26:24] Speaker 1: At this for beefcake of course. Joeld the brand, oh
[26:29] Speaker 1: very excited.
[26:30] Speaker 2: And Michael Kraiger loves the weird introc he gets on
[26:32] Speaker 2: this show.
[26:33] Speaker 1: It's why he always do this show.
[26:35] Speaker 2: He knows it's just it's going to be a little
[26:36] Speaker 2: different than everyone else. That's why he's been here for
[26:39] Speaker 2: as long as I have to thank you made all
[26:41] Speaker 2: right so finer details I explained them before, But as
[26:44] Speaker 2: soon as by the time the sun comes up, we
[26:46] Speaker 2: could end up with a new global carbon tax, not
[26:49] Speaker 2: put onto countries, but put onto the shipping companies of
[26:53] Speaker 2: the world, depending on how clean their vessels are as
[26:57] Speaker 2: they move global trade around the world. Now this is
[27:01] Speaker 2: all framed Joe with some sort of a well, there
[27:03] Speaker 2: might be a blow up about this in Washington. I say,
[27:05] Speaker 2: for the second time, anyone who's listening the meeting next
[27:08] Speaker 2: week will go fine, it'll be tick and flick, high grade.
[27:11] Speaker 2: Everyone knows how to be polite, thanks very much. Photos
[27:14] Speaker 2: he may even say something nice. So if you're thinking
[27:16] Speaker 2: he's going to get the Zelenski treatment, it ain't going
[27:18] Speaker 2: to happen, as much as that'd be fun to watch.
[27:20] Speaker 2: But this idea is one that appears and then comes
[27:25] Speaker 2: off the table. Bowen has talked about it privately and
[27:28] Speaker 2: then again publicly pulls it off the table. Well, as
[27:31] Speaker 2: soon as tomorrow morning, we're going to know if for
[27:33] Speaker 2: straight is signing up to this idea.
[27:35] Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. And I think even if it even
[27:38] Speaker 16: if we do sign up or whatever, or if we
[27:40] Speaker 16: do say oh, at this stage, we have every intention
[27:42] Speaker 16: of signing up. You know, it's a bit like recognizing Palestine,
[27:44] Speaker 16: isn't it. We're not recognizing Palatine, but we're saying we
[27:46] Speaker 16: will recognize Palestine if you know harmas you know, commit
[27:50] Speaker 16: Harry carry and three elections, and you know there's a
[27:53] Speaker 16: rainbow on the third day of the fourth month since
[27:55] Speaker 16: the equinox.
[27:57] Speaker 1: So I know which one's going to happen first. I
[28:00] Speaker 1: think that about my cart.
[28:02] Speaker 16: Clearly, this is just something that is going that is
[28:04] Speaker 16: going to be another bargaining ship with Trump. If Trump
[28:07] Speaker 16: is really serious about threatening tariffs on every single country
[28:10] Speaker 16: that signs up to it, either every country except America
[28:12] Speaker 16: signs up to it, and so they've all got the
[28:14] Speaker 16: same tariff, so it cancels it out.
[28:15] Speaker 1: Well.
[28:16] Speaker 2: Remember one of the reasons why we were told the
[28:19] Speaker 2: Liberal Party backed in net zero in twenty twenty two
[28:23] Speaker 2: was because the Europeans were going to put a tax
[28:26] Speaker 2: on any country that didn't have that particular target. Now
[28:31] Speaker 2: that has not happened to this point. But I do,
[28:34] Speaker 2: like Michael, when these little moments, you know, they come
[28:36] Speaker 2: and pass, and who cares. It's just those silly little
[28:39] Speaker 2: businesses that decide to import things into the country that
[28:42] Speaker 2: may well end up having to pay more. But the
[28:44] Speaker 2: thing is, if the transportation costs increase, guess what it
[28:49] Speaker 2: increases the end retail price?
[28:52] Speaker 15: Thoughts, why would an island nation vote for this? Man?
[28:58] Speaker 15: I mean, okay, so everything that comes here or leaves
[29:04] Speaker 15: here has to go on a ship, or if they're
[29:07] Speaker 15: small goods, they can go on a plane. If you're
[29:10] Speaker 15: in Germany, France, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Italy, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal.
[29:18] Speaker 15: What if you're a European country or a South American
[29:21] Speaker 15: country or an African country, many of your goods come
[29:24] Speaker 15: across the border by a truck. So if you're an
[29:27] Speaker 15: island nation, the first thing you do is think, this
[29:29] Speaker 15: is not I've got a good idea for us. This
[29:32] Speaker 15: is not a good idea for us. And secondly, mate,
[29:34] Speaker 15: I'm sure you know if they can have renewable diesel
[29:39] Speaker 15: and these things, that's great, but let's wait until Ashley
[29:43] Speaker 15: do Otherwise the result is going to be exactly as
[29:46] Speaker 15: you say. And by the way, mate, the only thing
[29:49] Speaker 15: more important than the global carbon tax is your earliest statement.
[29:53] Speaker 15: As you think the meeting will go well next week,
[29:56] Speaker 15: can you please tell Joe and I and the thousands
[29:59] Speaker 15: listening what makes you think that? Well, it makes you
[30:03] Speaker 15: think that because mate, at the back of my mind,
[30:05] Speaker 15: pardon me, at the back of my mind, Orange Man
[30:08] Speaker 15: comes to the office, no sleep, bad day, unhappy with Putin,
[30:13] Speaker 15: unhappy with Hamas they say, eleven am, you're meeting this
[30:16] Speaker 15: blake from Australia. Who's he. He's the pro Palestinian student
[30:20] Speaker 15: activist who said you scare the s out of him.
[30:23] Speaker 15: He's a global warming zealous he recognized Palestine with the
[30:28] Speaker 15: you know, the other three Western nations. He basically won
[30:33] Speaker 15: an election by saying, wink wink, anyone that wears a
[30:36] Speaker 15: maga hat is an extremist and therefore very un Australian.
[30:39] Speaker 15: They basically help win the election by distanting themselves from you.
[30:42] Speaker 15: And the ambassador thinks you're a threat to democracy and
[30:45] Speaker 15: a crazy man, et cetera, et cetera. That's who you're meeting.
[30:48] Speaker 15: That'll cheer him up, mate, that'll really cheer him up
[30:51] Speaker 15: for the eleven am meeting.
[30:52] Speaker 1: So I don't know.
[30:53] Speaker 15: For Australia's sake that you're right. I hope for the
[30:56] Speaker 15: country's sake you're right. I'm not so sure.
[30:58] Speaker 1: Now.
[30:59] Speaker 2: Look as much fun as I would love to be
[31:01] Speaker 2: there sitting there live watching the blow up, right, and
[31:03] Speaker 2: i'd love to watch the blow up right, and wouldn't
[31:04] Speaker 2: be great to see Arbocop one. The only reason I
[31:06] Speaker 2: think it's going to go well is because look at
[31:10] Speaker 2: the relationship he's now got with the Prime Minister of Canada. Now,
[31:13] Speaker 2: remember before the Canadian election, Justin Trudeau, super lefty would
[31:18] Speaker 2: have done all of those things and more right, and
[31:20] Speaker 2: then we start the fifty first state stuff and it
[31:23] Speaker 2: went from an absolute slam done guaranteed, flush down the
[31:26] Speaker 2: toot for Trudeau's party. Instead it was the opposition leader
[31:30] Speaker 2: who ended up losing his seat, right, because I don't
[31:33] Speaker 2: think Trump is going to view him in that way.
[31:36] Speaker 2: I think if he's having a shitty day, well he's
[31:39] Speaker 2: ten minutes of somebody coming in going get a mate,
[31:42] Speaker 2: and all of the fake carry on that we know
[31:44] Speaker 2: can do our heads in. So that's where I think
[31:47] Speaker 2: it's going to land. Would it be amazing to see
[31:49] Speaker 2: a blow up, of course, but I'm just getting in
[31:51] Speaker 2: nice and early. I think this thing is managing expectator
[31:54] Speaker 2: tick flick.
[31:55] Speaker 15: Why aren't you going? Why aren't Scott sending you over
[31:59] Speaker 15: to be part of the press. I can see you
[32:01] Speaker 15: there standing right behind JD, right behind with that slightly
[32:05] Speaker 15: protruding belly with a few future weeks overnight Turkish delight.
[32:09] Speaker 15: In the morning, Paul Murray is standing there with the
[32:12] Speaker 15: photo behind you, you can remind the orange man of
[32:15] Speaker 15: the great days when you were you know, Bosom Buddies
[32:17] Speaker 15: in his last term. And when there's a small mate,
[32:20] Speaker 15: when there's a small pregnant pause in the meeting, you
[32:23] Speaker 15: can say, mister President, see the man, the short man
[32:26] Speaker 15: there with the blonde beard.
[32:27] Speaker 1: That muski what he must give?
[32:30] Speaker 10: What a woman is?
[32:31] Speaker 1: What a woman is?
[32:32] Speaker 15: I brought my iPad. I brought my iPad, mister President,
[32:35] Speaker 15: to show you. Kevin wrote's greatest hints, his best comments
[32:38] Speaker 15: about you.
[32:39] Speaker 1: He's the austron and ambassador. Imagine that should be doing.
[32:44] Speaker 1: He gets the boss of this joint ring Paul when
[32:46] Speaker 1: we're up.
[32:46] Speaker 15: There and say first class p Murray.
[32:50] Speaker 16: I think we could pass it in around.
[32:51] Speaker 1: I reckon we'd get enough from us. I think the
[32:53] Speaker 1: viewers would gladly go fundme.
[32:56] Speaker 17: Just sitting in there, just a rough start to go
[33:00] Speaker 17: on me, Paige, It'll go through the roof, but this
[33:04] Speaker 17: time tomorrow and Ei'll go through the roof.
[33:06] Speaker 1: I love you, Sally ragondor Murray in the Oval office.
[33:09] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[33:09] Speaker 2: I'm turning pinker than my shirt at the mere idea.
[33:13] Speaker 2: All right, let's this will say not rubbish after this,
[33:15] Speaker 2: but still there was this weird story around today and
[33:18] Speaker 2: I don't know whether it was one of these things
[33:19] Speaker 2: which was like a presook. I don't know whether somebody
[33:22] Speaker 2: somewhere is talking about maybe going from the Libs to
[33:25] Speaker 2: the Gnats. As of course previously Nats have gone to
[33:27] Speaker 2: the Libs. But they come out today and they say no,
[33:29] Speaker 2: none of that. But then David little Proud turns around
[33:31] Speaker 2: and says, look, we welcome them if they're willing to
[33:33] Speaker 2: do so. Joe, this is one of those stories that
[33:37] Speaker 2: seems crazy, but because it is. We are where we are,
[33:40] Speaker 2: we are this is you want to waste ten seconds
[33:42] Speaker 2: on this story.
[33:43] Speaker 16: Just when you think that the Libs couldn't get any more,
[33:46] Speaker 16: either divided within themselves or divided from the Gnats in
[33:48] Speaker 16: the coalition, somehow you have the Nationals leader coming and say, hey,
[33:52] Speaker 16: anyone want to defect to us, We're open for business.
[33:55] Speaker 16: You know, hang the hang the sign out the front.
[33:58] Speaker 16: It's just it's just bonkers. I've never seen such an
[34:01] Speaker 16: extraordinary lack of discipline from a political party. It's such
[34:04] Speaker 16: an extraordinary just bag of cats disunity. I think ever
[34:09] Speaker 16: maybe the Victorian Liberals, but they're given him a run
[34:11] Speaker 16: for their money.
[34:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, well fair enough.
[34:13] Speaker 2: Look again, because it's just one of those ones I
[34:15] Speaker 2: wanted to put on the table. See what happens. But
[34:17] Speaker 2: let's talk here about Tony Burke and his performance. Something
[34:20] Speaker 2: pretty serious to talk about here, which is the way
[34:22] Speaker 2: Tony Burke carried on today at the National Press Club. Now,
[34:27] Speaker 2: this bloke again is part of a team that think
[34:28] Speaker 2: they will rule forever. And he's a bloke who thinks that,
[34:31] Speaker 2: you know, if he stands on one leg for long enough,
[34:34] Speaker 2: he'll eventually end up replacing Albanezi as the Prime Minister.
[34:38] Speaker 2: But he's got a little touch of that sort of
[34:40] Speaker 2: Californian politician I was showing before why roll the tape
[34:44] Speaker 2: got this, there were specific recommendations that she put for
[34:48] Speaker 2: I'd replay no, no, no.
[34:49] Speaker 18: I'll be interrupted on many things, but I will not
[34:51] Speaker 18: be interrupted where I'm talking about someone who has put
[34:54] Speaker 18: herself out there publicly, and I'm getting the first chance
[35:00] Speaker 18: had in a while to be able to say how
[35:02] Speaker 18: much I support her work.
[35:04] Speaker 2: And when he was being pushed about the Palestinian cohort
[35:07] Speaker 2: that's come to Australia since the war, that he started
[35:11] Speaker 2: to play a strange game. In fact, I'll get our
[35:14] Speaker 2: team to look for this year. When he was talking
[35:15] Speaker 2: around today that why are not being asked about the
[35:17] Speaker 2: security threats in and around the Israeli population, Michael, I
[35:20] Speaker 2: could almost hear you kicking the TV from a thousand
[35:23] Speaker 2: k's away.
[35:27] Speaker 15: Tony Burke. I don't know where to start on Tony Burke.
[35:32] Speaker 15: He ranks as a I think he's basically a danger
[35:36] Speaker 15: to social cohesion in this country, and I think he's
[35:39] Speaker 15: proved that during his period as minister. We know his
[35:43] Speaker 15: history of bringing people from Gaza, and we're a country
[35:46] Speaker 15: that believes in humanitarian access to this country for people
[35:49] Speaker 15: in need for refugee status. I mean, we're well known
[35:53] Speaker 15: worldwide for that. But when other Arab countries aren't taking
[35:56] Speaker 15: people from gars who I'm still here to wit. I'm
[35:59] Speaker 15: still waiting to hear mister Burke say, way we have
[36:02] Speaker 15: and of course they should return home. And those people,
[36:06] Speaker 15: by the way he made the kind of Israelis wh've
[36:08] Speaker 15: come here, well, if they don't have refugee status or
[36:10] Speaker 15: coming through the normal channels, but have come here because
[36:13] Speaker 15: of their concerns about their safety, then the same should apply.
[36:18] Speaker 15: And now he's talking about bringing more people from Gaza.
[36:21] Speaker 15: I mean, mister Burke, you've got to remember forty percent
[36:24] Speaker 15: or more of Garsens support Hamas. Probably more support Hamas
[36:29] Speaker 15: where you're you're so good and our screening over there
[36:32] Speaker 15: in Egypt and some office in Cairo is so good
[36:37] Speaker 15: that you've brought to Australia only those who don't support
[36:40] Speaker 15: Hamas well, Who do they support, mister Burke? What the
[36:42] Speaker 15: PA or do they support nobody? Gee, we're lucky, Paul
[36:47] Speaker 15: that we've got every person that's come here from Garza,
[36:50] Speaker 15: we've got no Hamas supporters amongst them. It's just it's
[36:53] Speaker 15: just breathtaking. This guy has presided over with his boss
[36:57] Speaker 15: and Penny Wong, the greatest increase in antisemitism we've seen
[37:02] Speaker 15: in this country's history. And for him to be talking
[37:06] Speaker 15: about bringing more people from Gaza of this time, Tony,
[37:11] Speaker 15: you should go back to one of your previous portfolios.
[37:13] Speaker 15: This is not a poor follower. You you're a danger
[37:16] Speaker 15: to this country the way you are carrying on and increasing.
[37:20] Speaker 15: You know, the Jewish community are fearful in this country, right,
[37:24] Speaker 15: They're fearful you're bringing people from Gaza. Jewish people in
[37:28] Speaker 15: this country, fear for their safety. You're bringing more people, really, Tony, really, look.
[37:34] Speaker 2: The inevitable pushback there is going to be that we
[37:37] Speaker 2: trust our screening process, et cetera, et cetera, but also
[37:40] Speaker 2: the theory about when it's time to go back. We
[37:42] Speaker 2: all know that there's nothing to go back to, or
[37:44] Speaker 2: not a lot to go back to at the moment.
[37:46] Speaker 2: But Joe, it is this bit that I do think
[37:48] Speaker 2: is worth a chat, because we know what he's trying
[37:50] Speaker 2: to say. We've got the tape of him basically sort
[37:53] Speaker 2: of what about is him?
[37:54] Speaker 18: He have a look And I wonder why it is
[37:58] Speaker 18: that I haven't been asked the question about returning for
[38:03] Speaker 18: any of the Israelis who I've also provided visus for.
[38:08] Speaker 18: Whenever we have taken people on a humanitarian basis and
[38:11] Speaker 18: the humanitarian need has gone away, some people have completely
[38:16] Speaker 18: found a home in Australia. They have valued members of
[38:19] Speaker 18: our community and they decide to stay now.
[38:23] Speaker 2: Not so hard to decode the trolling language that's involved there.
[38:26] Speaker 2: I think he's playing games.
[38:28] Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, I think Australia has always been had a
[38:31] Speaker 16: generous humanitarian intake program, far more generous than a lot
[38:34] Speaker 16: of the other countries that you've mentioned that Arab countries
[38:38] Speaker 16: have been disgraceful in talking up their support for Gaza
[38:42] Speaker 16: or Palestine but never doing anything practical to help it.
[38:45] Speaker 16: But just because they're bad, it doesn't mean that we
[38:48] Speaker 16: should be bad. Also, my understanding with this cohort is
[38:52] Speaker 16: that the people who are already going to come here,
[38:56] Speaker 16: and that it was already sort of in train, if
[38:57] Speaker 16: you like, but they hadn't physically been able to get.
[39:00] Speaker 1: Out of the country.
[39:01] Speaker 16: These are people who could be under threat from hamas
[39:04] Speaker 16: we know that her mass is going around now summarily
[39:07] Speaker 16: executing people in the streets and trying to find anyone
[39:10] Speaker 16: deemed to be a collaborator. So a lot of the
[39:12] Speaker 16: people coming here could actually be people who are mustoms
[39:15] Speaker 16: as collaborators with Israel. And I think the disparity in
[39:19] Speaker 16: the numbers, which I imagine there probably is. I don't
[39:22] Speaker 16: know how many Israelis we're taking, but it's pretty clear
[39:24] Speaker 16: that Israel is as far less as humanitarian catastrophe than
[39:30] Speaker 16: Gaza is. I mean, you know, what happened obviously on
[39:32] Speaker 16: October seven was absolutely disgraceful and unforgivable, and the work
[39:35] Speaker 16: of evil animals but that you know, tel Aviv still stands,
[39:40] Speaker 16: but also.
[39:40] Speaker 1: Mean he's being a smart ass.
[39:41] Speaker 2: He's basically saying, you know, in terms of the war zone,
[39:44] Speaker 2: right when people are coming out of a war zone,
[39:45] Speaker 2: oh look, you know, everything's no questions whatsoever allowed to
[39:49] Speaker 2: be asked. And then again the other I think it's
[39:52] Speaker 2: obvious the game he was playing, all right, because of
[39:54] Speaker 2: that lovely little sojourn about my potential trip to the
[39:57] Speaker 2: Washington DC around of time, lads, I love you both.
[40:00] Speaker 2: If the boss wants to call, he has my number.
[40:02] Speaker 2: All right, Guick Bright back with more.
[40:04] Speaker 1: Colin Flinn joins us in a moment or two's time,
[40:07] Speaker 1: our favorite irishman.
[40:08] Speaker 2: Beautiful tone that he has. All right, back to your
[40:10] Speaker 2: snitzells everyone, see.
[40:12] Speaker 1: You in a second.
[40:18] Speaker 2: The way we end our week here on Paul Murray
[40:20] Speaker 2: Live is to have a quick chat with a mate
[40:22] Speaker 2: who tells us a story, which means you'll be able
[40:25] Speaker 2: to learn something and I guarantee you will pass off
[40:27] Speaker 2: what you learn at a barbecue this weekend. I know
[40:30] Speaker 2: that means very high pressure for our mate Colin Flynn
[40:32] Speaker 2: normally reporting on Madison to do with the Vatican, but
[40:34] Speaker 2: he comes and swims in the shallow end that is
[40:36] Speaker 2: this program each and every week, and the great Man
[40:39] Speaker 2: joins us right now.
[40:40] Speaker 1: Oh sorry, he's a little busy though. How are you calling?
[40:42] Speaker 7: Okay, we'll go for the meat supreme and extra Pepperonian.
[40:45] Speaker 1: Can I get four?
[40:46] Speaker 7: Jesus Paul? Will we make it a larger You want
[40:48] Speaker 7: to go mega large on family Family? Yeah, family size
[40:53] Speaker 7: billets of the Paul Murray Show.
[40:54] Speaker 1: Paul, how are you hi? Now, there's a reason we're
[40:56] Speaker 1: doing pizza talk.
[40:59] Speaker 7: Yes, this is one of those incredible stories of you know,
[41:03] Speaker 7: we see these brands, we see these companies, and sometimes
[41:06] Speaker 7: we take them for granted and we do not know
[41:08] Speaker 7: the story behind them. Are you a fan of Dominos Pizza?
[41:11] Speaker 14: Paul?
[41:12] Speaker 1: Yes, I may be.
[41:14] Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, guilty. Well, this is one of those stories
[41:17] Speaker 7: that I came across and I thought it was too
[41:20] Speaker 7: good to be true. But I went to the US
[41:22] Speaker 7: flew there and I met the man in question.
[41:25] Speaker 1: Listen to this.
[41:25] Speaker 7: Nineteen thirty seven Thomas Monaghan young man born in ann
[41:30] Speaker 7: Arbor in Michigan in the United States, but born into
[41:32] Speaker 7: a pretty poor family. When he was only four years
[41:35] Speaker 7: of age, on Christmas Eve, his father died of a
[41:38] Speaker 7: heart attack, and in the interview he told me how
[41:41] Speaker 7: he was there at the coffin at the funeral saying,
[41:43] Speaker 7: wake up, Dad, wake up. It was just a heartbreaking
[41:45] Speaker 7: moment for him, as you can imagine him and his brother.
[41:48] Speaker 7: His mother then was not able to look after him,
[41:51] Speaker 7: so he was put into an orphanage. He was in
[41:53] Speaker 7: an orphanage.
[41:54] Speaker 1: That's where he grew up, with.
[41:55] Speaker 7: No parents, tough Polish nuns telling him to clean the floor.
[41:59] Speaker 7: But and it taught him the value of hard work
[42:02] Speaker 7: and that pain off. When he left the orphanage, he
[42:04] Speaker 7: joined the Marines for a while and then Paul he
[42:07] Speaker 7: didn't really know what to do with his life. So
[42:09] Speaker 7: his brother said, you know, there's this old guy living
[42:11] Speaker 7: in the town called Dominic and he has a pizzeria,
[42:14] Speaker 7: but he's getting out of the game. And Tom said,
[42:16] Speaker 7: I don't know anything about pizza. He said, I know,
[42:18] Speaker 7: but what else have you got going on? Get down
[42:20] Speaker 7: there and buy the pizzeria. He spent five hundred dollars
[42:23] Speaker 7: on that first shop, and then after a few months
[42:26] Speaker 7: he bought two more and he thought, Paul, that would
[42:28] Speaker 7: be it. I have my business empire. In fact, if
[42:31] Speaker 7: you look at the Domino's logo today it still has
[42:34] Speaker 7: those three dots. Those three dots represent his three stores.
[42:37] Speaker 7: Because he said, I'll never get any bigger than this.
[42:39] Speaker 7: I've become a success. So in nineteen sixty he started
[42:44] Speaker 7: Dominoes and over the next twenty years it was going well.
[42:47] Speaker 7: But there were a few strokes of genius Paul. One
[42:50] Speaker 7: of them was that he redesigned the pizza box because
[42:53] Speaker 7: remember the olden days, the pizza would stick to the
[42:55] Speaker 7: top of the lake and he would open it and yeah.
[42:57] Speaker 7: He designed this more sturdy type of cardboard, which meant
[43:00] Speaker 7: that that wouldn't happen and he could stack more in
[43:02] Speaker 7: the back of a motorbike or in the back of
[43:05] Speaker 7: a car. The second thing he invented was the conveyor
[43:07] Speaker 7: belt oven, so the pizza would be uniformly cooked every
[43:11] Speaker 7: time going through that oven. And then the third stroke
[43:14] Speaker 7: of genius, which really made Domino's pizza was the guarantee
[43:18] Speaker 7: thirty minutes hot pizza are your money back, And that's
[43:21] Speaker 7: when things started to skyrocket. I flew to Florida to
[43:26] Speaker 7: meet him and I asked him about that moment when
[43:28] Speaker 7: the business really started to take off.
[43:33] Speaker 19: I started in nineteen sixty. This was nineteen eighty and
[43:36] Speaker 19: we took off like a rocket. We were the fancist
[43:38] Speaker 19: growing rest and chain in the history of the world.
[43:41] Speaker 19: In nineteen eighty five we opened nine hundred and fifty
[43:44] Speaker 19: four stores.
[43:45] Speaker 7: More than I ever did in one year one year
[43:47] Speaker 7: nine hundred.
[43:48] Speaker 19: Actually in the twelve month period we got over one thousand.
[43:51] Speaker 7: Wow, in the calendar year nine hundred, that's like three
[43:54] Speaker 7: stores a day opening.
[43:55] Speaker 19: Up right funny thing about that named Dominoes. You know
[43:59] Speaker 19: what the means of laton No the.
[44:01] Speaker 7: Lauren Thomas was still praying to the Lord, but was distracted.
[44:08] Speaker 7: His enormous success had brought enormous wealth.
[44:12] Speaker 9: Some say he's worth at least three hundred million dollars,
[44:15] Speaker 9: rich enough to buy almost anything he wants.
[44:18] Speaker 7: His own sports team, he had a helicopter, pole, he
[44:22] Speaker 7: had anything and everything he needed. But you know what
[44:25] Speaker 7: is remarkabout this story, there's so many things that he
[44:27] Speaker 7: went from being an orphan to having Dominos Pizza at
[44:30] Speaker 7: its height, over twenty two thousand stores around the world.
[44:34] Speaker 7: But he felt like the money wasn't fulfilling him, the
[44:37] Speaker 7: success wasn't fulfilling him, and in nineteen ninety eight he
[44:40] Speaker 7: sold the company his ninety three percent share. He got
[44:43] Speaker 7: just over a billion dollars in the bank. And what
[44:46] Speaker 7: did he do. He wanted to help people in education.
[44:49] Speaker 7: So he built a university, six hundred million dollars into
[44:52] Speaker 7: Avid Maria University. You can see it there on your screen.
[44:55] Speaker 7: It now has thousands of students studying medicine, engineering and law.
[45:00] Speaker 7: And then the last one I interviewed him said, I
[45:01] Speaker 7: went from being a billionaire to just being a humble millionaire.
[45:04] Speaker 7: And today I met him recently down in Florida. He
[45:07] Speaker 7: is eighty eight years young and he is still giving
[45:10] Speaker 7: to charity. And he said he wants to die a
[45:13] Speaker 7: poor man.
[45:14] Speaker 1: Wow, but a man of course.
[45:15] Speaker 2: He's got so many rich stories, so many you know,
[45:18] Speaker 2: difficult stories again about his youth. But I love people
[45:22] Speaker 2: who have that perspective where you know, even when they
[45:24] Speaker 2: sort of you know, touch the sun, they turn around
[45:27] Speaker 2: and go, okay, great.
[45:28] Speaker 1: I've experienced that. Now do my bit for the people
[45:33] Speaker 1: who will never fly so high.
[45:35] Speaker 7: And the amazing thing is Paul that when I met
[45:38] Speaker 7: him a few months ago at the Ritz Carlton if
[45:40] Speaker 7: you don't mind, in Naples and Florida, I was there
[45:43] Speaker 7: hosting a conference that he was organizing, and I thought, okay,
[45:47] Speaker 7: I'm going to get up early. I was a bit
[45:48] Speaker 7: jet lagged, so I woke up and I went down
[45:50] Speaker 7: to the gym at seven am, and I thought, I
[45:51] Speaker 7: am on top of the world. I'll be the first man.
[45:54] Speaker 7: I met Thomas Monaghan at eighty eight coming out of
[45:56] Speaker 7: the gym having finished his morning workout.
[46:00] Speaker 1: Can you get that, mate?
[46:01] Speaker 2: He would have smoked everyone. He's done at it from
[46:04] Speaker 2: four am. Colin, We love you mate, all the best
[46:06] Speaker 2: of the family. Have a wonderful weekend. What a story
[46:08] Speaker 2: about the bloke and again that idea that the box
[46:11] Speaker 2: still looks like what it does to represent the first stores.
[46:14] Speaker 1: That's cool.
[46:15] Speaker 2: All right, quick breakback with more here on Paul Murray Live.
[46:17] Speaker 2: Thanks very much for watching. A reminder our town is
[46:20] Speaker 2: coming to the act next week. Send me an email
[46:22] Speaker 2: Outtown at Scotties dot com dot you. Aviation history was
[46:30] Speaker 2: made today my friends at Virgin Australia have made a
[46:34] Speaker 2: decision which is that you can now take your.
[46:36] Speaker 1: Pets on a plane. Let's see how it went.
[46:43] Speaker 2: So today I've got Polly in herself sided carrier as
[46:47] Speaker 2: well as my handbag comfortably under the city in front
[46:50] Speaker 2: of me by my feet.
[46:52] Speaker 7: It's still room for your legs, still room, yes, and
[46:54] Speaker 7: you don't look quite a terrible short place, Muka.
[46:57] Speaker 18: No, my mum always says I'm very tall.
[47:02] Speaker 19: Now.
[47:02] Speaker 2: All of this was made possible by a decision which
[47:04] Speaker 2: was made by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority a couple
[47:07] Speaker 2: of years ago that has now opened the door to
[47:10] Speaker 2: pets now. Also, don't forget this week. The Virgin made
[47:12] Speaker 2: the decision which is one piece of hand luggage. No,
[47:17] Speaker 2: you can't put the puppy up the top. So it's
[47:20] Speaker 2: a big week for them. But I say this, I've
[47:23] Speaker 2: always said this all the way through it right, like
[47:26] Speaker 2: other people's kids can be a little bit annoying sometimes
[47:30] Speaker 2: on a plane right now, other people's pets. And you know,
[47:33] Speaker 2: at some point in time, some smart ass somewhere is
[47:36] Speaker 2: going to ride a Shetland pony on because they say
[47:39] Speaker 2: they need it because they're a nervous fly. But that said,
[47:42] Speaker 2: every time I mention this, and I mean in my
[47:45] Speaker 2: real life, in work life, when I took everyone loves
[47:49] Speaker 2: the idea, I thought, so I may be the single
[47:52] Speaker 2: grumpy bloke that's going to be sitting there going protestable
[47:54] Speaker 2: the dogs and cats, but apparently quite a popular thing.
[47:58] Speaker 2: It starts from today. I don't know how much you
[48:00] Speaker 2: have to pay for it all the rest of it,
[48:01] Speaker 2: but still good news from virgin now. Also interesting case
[48:05] Speaker 2: that I was reading one of the nine papers over
[48:07] Speaker 2: the past couple of days, and it was a phollically
[48:10] Speaker 2: challenged gentleman who was sort of dealing with the idea
[48:13] Speaker 2: that why can you still make bald jokes when you
[48:16] Speaker 2: can't make fat jokes? For all, Obviously, you can't go
[48:19] Speaker 2: running to bring your hair back. I don't go running
[48:22] Speaker 2: to stay fat. I mean, it's part of my regime.
[48:24] Speaker 2: This body doesn't happen by accident, you know, if that's
[48:27] Speaker 2: a choice too, kidding at the risk of splitting hairs.
[48:30] Speaker 2: In a PC society obsessed with inclusion, representation, and respect,
[48:33] Speaker 2: it's ironic how baldness remains ripe for ridicule race, gender,
[48:38] Speaker 2: body size, sexual orientation, all rightly protected by evolving social norms,
[48:42] Speaker 2: yet the ball guy remains the butt of the joke.
[48:45] Speaker 1: Look, I don't know if you are somebody who is
[48:49] Speaker 1: of losing of hair stature.
[48:51] Speaker 2: I'm not aware of that many bald jokes that are around,
[48:54] Speaker 2: but on the behalf of fat people.
[48:57] Speaker 1: I don't know. You can joke away at ups if
[49:00] Speaker 1: you wish. If that helped save the bald.
[49:02] Speaker 2: People or the bloke who clearly had run out of
[49:05] Speaker 2: any other idea for the column that he had to
[49:07] Speaker 2: file this week, that's our show. Thank you very much
[49:09] Speaker 2: for watching, Go Tigers, Go Yankees. Have a wonderful weekend
[49:11] Speaker 2: wherever you happen to be, and join us next Sunday
[49:14] Speaker 2: night our town.
[49:14] Speaker 1: It's going to news dot com dot Au

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