# Paul Murray Live | 8 March

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 8 Mar 2026, 49 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/6a1558bc-7264-498f-9f26-b40700c48c01/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

The bodies of slain troops return to the United States, the Farrer by-election is locked in for May. Plus, One Nation surges in NSW polling. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Nice work.
[0:07] Speaker 1: John Ogizu is jealous when you're in the back of
[0:09] Speaker 1: those cars. How good was that drifting that they were
[0:11] Speaker 1: doing in and around Tamworth. Bit of fun, of course,
[0:14] Speaker 1: you can see highlights that and pass it around soon
[0:16] Speaker 1: It's gone news dot com dot au speaking of one Nation.
[0:20] Speaker 1: One Nation have now picked their candidate for Farah. That
[0:23] Speaker 1: of course is the by election happening in the first
[0:26] Speaker 1: week of May. We will talk to that candidate a
[0:29] Speaker 1: little later tonight. The Iranian women's soccer team is due
[0:32] Speaker 1: to leave Australia after the round robin in the Asian
[0:36] Speaker 1: Cup finishes tonight. I think there's a case for them
[0:39] Speaker 1: being able to be offered asylum. But I will tell
[0:41] Speaker 1: you why. Part of hosting these big international tournaments or
[0:47] Speaker 1: sporting events ties one hand behind our back about being
[0:50] Speaker 1: able to give freedom to these women who clearly are
[0:54] Speaker 1: in for a rough time when they get home. And
[0:56] Speaker 1: speaking of a rough time of Oscar Piastre like about
[1:02] Speaker 1: what hundreds of thousands of people I was there in Melbourne,
[1:05] Speaker 1: particularly for qualifying on Saturday, and to see that it
[1:09] Speaker 1: didn't even make the beginning of the well, not even
[1:13] Speaker 1: really the Formation lab. It was bad. It was really bad,
[1:16] Speaker 1: especially the people who spend how much money to sit
[1:18] Speaker 1: in the Oscar pastre stand talk about that a whole
[1:21] Speaker 1: lot more in a moment or two time. But first,
[1:23] Speaker 1: we are now a week and a bit into the
[1:25] Speaker 1: events that have been playing out with the United States
[1:28] Speaker 1: and Israel taking on Iran. The latest information is the
[1:32] Speaker 1: US has now hit three thousand, three thousand targets in
[1:38] Speaker 1: the first week of Operation Epic Fury. Now, quite interestingly,
[1:43] Speaker 1: one of the things that has got a lot of
[1:44] Speaker 1: people talking in the past few hours has been how
[1:48] Speaker 1: Iranian fuel depots are on fire, because remember, it's not
[1:51] Speaker 1: just about taking out the leadership. It's not just taking
[1:53] Speaker 1: out what they used to try and strike out against
[1:56] Speaker 1: the rest of the region. But of course it's what
[1:59] Speaker 1: they used to keep deep, all of those things in
[2:01] Speaker 1: the air in the sky. Part of that, obviously is
[2:04] Speaker 1: their fueld deposits spectacular footage that you see there via
[2:07] Speaker 1: many organizations. One of the hardest, if not the hardest,
[2:11] Speaker 1: thing of an American president, regardless of whether you like
[2:14] Speaker 1: them or not, regardless of whether they're Republican or Democrat,
[2:17] Speaker 1: is to see the consequences of their decisions. Now, as
[2:21] Speaker 1: we know, six people have died as part of the
[2:25] Speaker 1: defense forces that were struck in the first twenty four
[2:27] Speaker 1: hours of Operation Epic Fury. Their bodies have returned in
[2:32] Speaker 1: the past a day or so to the United States.
[2:35] Speaker 1: All six were welcomed back to the country, their caskets
[2:41] Speaker 1: being paraded past the President, his wife, the Vice President,
[2:45] Speaker 1: his wife, and a whole bunch of other significant officials.
[2:48] Speaker 1: This can always be a very difficult political moment because
[2:51] Speaker 1: it is about the realization of the consequences of war,
[2:54] Speaker 1: and obviously, people like Joe Biden, who in previous occasions
[2:57] Speaker 1: has been literally looking at his watch when such things
[3:00] Speaker 1: have been taking place, they really can move public opinion. Interestingly, though,
[3:05] Speaker 1: as you know, there has also been a lot of
[3:07] Speaker 1: back and forth between the leader of the United Kingdom,
[3:10] Speaker 1: who has not stepped up, who is not choosing to
[3:12] Speaker 1: go toe to toe with America. Now, of course, this
[3:16] Speaker 1: is because he wants to avoid the supposed sins of
[3:20] Speaker 1: the Iraq War, that being Kis Starmer and Donald Trump.
[3:24] Speaker 1: Now apparently the United Kingdom, remember a week and a
[3:26] Speaker 1: bit into this thing, is preparing on sending one of
[3:28] Speaker 1: their aircraft carriers maybe to the Middle East. Now, would
[3:31] Speaker 1: they start firing from those aircraft carriers into Iran? No,
[3:35] Speaker 1: of course, it is just there in case they need
[3:38] Speaker 1: to fire into Iran. If British assets are attacked, well amazingly,
[3:44] Speaker 1: as you will have heard by now. But if this
[3:46] Speaker 1: is your first chick in on the news, let me
[3:47] Speaker 1: bring up to date the president. He ain't happy going
[3:50] Speaker 1: to his favored social media platform. The United Kingdom, our
[3:55] Speaker 1: once great ally may be the greatest of them all,
[3:58] Speaker 1: is finally giving serious thought to sitting too military two
[4:02] Speaker 1: aircraft carriers to the Middle East. That's okay, Prime Minister Starmach.
[4:05] Speaker 1: We don't need them any longer, but we will remember
[4:09] Speaker 1: we don't need people that join wars after we've already won.
[4:13] Speaker 1: President Donald J. Trump. Now, what's particularly interesting about this is,
[4:17] Speaker 1: remember I told you a couple of days ago the
[4:20] Speaker 1: Americans were telling us that the waves of attacks that
[4:24] Speaker 1: were coming from Iran on all of those American assets
[4:28] Speaker 1: and all of those countries that house things like American
[4:31] Speaker 1: military bases, well, the wave of that was down about
[4:35] Speaker 1: eighty five percent. Where there's no further update to what
[4:38] Speaker 1: I told you on Thursday night and remember the President
[4:42] Speaker 1: said that this was something that would go the best
[4:43] Speaker 1: part of four weeks. The Iranians were saying today that
[4:47] Speaker 1: they can fight intensely for six months. But let's just
[4:50] Speaker 1: go back to that tweet and that key line here.
[4:53] Speaker 1: But we remember, we don't need people to join wars
[4:56] Speaker 1: after we've already won. Now, I doubt Donald Trump's about
[4:59] Speaker 1: to do a version of Mission accomplished here, but do
[5:02] Speaker 1: not be surprised if by this time next week it
[5:05] Speaker 1: is America that is supporting Israel with what it is
[5:08] Speaker 1: doing in the next phase. But perhaps the direct and
[5:12] Speaker 1: daily involvement of the United States may well change. Why
[5:15] Speaker 1: because the President is saying they've already won, so why
[5:18] Speaker 1: would they continue. On meantime, back to one of the
[5:22] Speaker 1: reasons why the UK didn't get involved, when of course
[5:24] Speaker 1: they should have. Getting rid of the Iranian regime is
[5:26] Speaker 1: not just good for the region, is of course good
[5:29] Speaker 1: for the world, because this Iranian regime is able to
[5:33] Speaker 1: not just fire missiles, but sponsor cyber attacks, pay for
[5:38] Speaker 1: suicide bombers, and also wreak all sorts of havoc in
[5:41] Speaker 1: domestic politics. We saw that here in Australia to the
[5:44] Speaker 1: extent that we had to boot out the Iranian ambassador.
[5:48] Speaker 1: But Pennywong and Anthony Albanezi are part of a political
[5:51] Speaker 1: class who grew up in the shadow of the Titanic
[5:56] Speaker 1: figure that is John Howard. In many ways they came
[5:59] Speaker 1: to promin or certainly formed a major political view that
[6:05] Speaker 1: was in and around the Iraq War of two thousand
[6:07] Speaker 1: and three. Now I told you that at the time
[6:10] Speaker 1: I was against that war. Why because it was not,
[6:13] Speaker 1: in my view a necessary war. What took place in
[6:16] Speaker 1: Afghanistan was obvious because it was where Arkaida was being harbored.
[6:21] Speaker 1: We all know the folly in many ways that was
[6:25] Speaker 1: decisions made in and around the Iraq War. But of
[6:28] Speaker 1: course what is always forgotten from history when it comes
[6:31] Speaker 1: to Labor people is that after GoF Whitlam got sacked
[6:34] Speaker 1: by the Governor General, the Australian people voted against the
[6:38] Speaker 1: Labor Party not once but twice. I E decision confirmed.
[6:42] Speaker 1: And even after all of the dispute and all of
[6:44] Speaker 1: the people marching against the Iraq War, John Howard won
[6:48] Speaker 1: in two thousand and four by an even bigger margins,
[6:50] Speaker 1: one that for the first time in any of our lifetimes,
[6:54] Speaker 1: one party that being the Liberal Party in its own
[6:57] Speaker 1: majority with the Nationals had control of both the Lower
[7:00] Speaker 1: House and the Upper House. Yes, two thousand and seven,
[7:05] Speaker 1: but that wasn't about the Iraq War. That was about
[7:07] Speaker 1: a government that had been around for a long time,
[7:09] Speaker 1: and of course interest rates that when it's the Liberal
[7:12] Speaker 1: Party and they start going up, well, it becomes politically fatal.
[7:15] Speaker 1: We've seen that with the Labor Party and it going
[7:17] Speaker 1: up thirteen times with another chance of going up again
[7:20] Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Nothing to see here.
[7:23] Speaker 1: So I take that tangent because you need to see
[7:26] Speaker 1: Penny Wong today playing the home game on the ABC
[7:30] Speaker 1: when she was saying that, look, there's a chance we
[7:33] Speaker 1: get involved in very on the fringe's defensive stuff. But
[7:37] Speaker 1: she goes out of her way to pretend that there
[7:39] Speaker 1: is some sort of a choice before the Australian government
[7:42] Speaker 1: that is similar to the choice made in two thousand
[7:46] Speaker 1: and three. This is the chief diplomat of the country
[7:48] Speaker 1: who does not know the difference between the threat that
[7:52] Speaker 1: Iraq posed to the rest of the world and Iran
[7:56] Speaker 1: that was so significant that she herself helped boot out
[8:01] Speaker 1: the ambassador of the country, not of a Raq but
[8:04] Speaker 1: of a ran because of their involvement in crime in Australia.
[8:10] Speaker 1: But have a listen to somebody who is just part
[8:12] Speaker 1: of this new Left which is about just wiping away
[8:15] Speaker 1: any vestiges of the Howard era, including the people who
[8:19] Speaker 1: voted for it.
[8:21] Speaker 2: This is not Iraq and we are not the Howard government.
[8:25] Speaker 2: We are not asking Australians to form to accept Australian
[8:32] Speaker 2: men and women being deployed into a ground war.
[8:36] Speaker 1: But of course remember Anthony Abernezi and the leader to
[8:39] Speaker 1: the last election, was openly talking about Australia committing potentially
[8:43] Speaker 1: potentially to peacekeeping troops in the ongoing ground war that
[8:49] Speaker 1: is Russia and Ukraine. Now again these people assume we
[8:53] Speaker 1: don't remember, but they also think that everyone is of
[8:57] Speaker 1: the same cloth. Millions of people who voted not once,
[9:02] Speaker 1: not twice, not three times to re elect the Howard
[9:06] Speaker 1: government have either all changed their mind or all died off.
[9:10] Speaker 1: And everyone was at university railing against John Howard. Now,
[9:17] Speaker 1: the reality is that a lot of politics has changed
[9:19] Speaker 1: in those years, and certainly the fortunes of the Liberal Party. Well,
[9:22] Speaker 1: we know that they have been circling the drain for
[9:25] Speaker 1: a couple of years now, with the beginnings of it
[9:28] Speaker 1: for a little longer. But again the arrogance in and
[9:33] Speaker 1: around that statement. I've got a feeling you'll hear it
[9:34] Speaker 1: a lot more across the weekly on Sky News. But
[9:37] Speaker 1: remember you saw it here first. Always join us on
[9:40] Speaker 1: a Sunday night because we get our first bite at
[9:42] Speaker 1: the opinion apple. Meantime. Now we know that there's lots
[9:47] Speaker 1: of different opinions about whether the war should or shouldn't
[9:49] Speaker 1: be happening. Reality is, and I said this even as
[9:52] Speaker 1: a person who opposed Iraq, Well, we can have arguments
[9:55] Speaker 1: about whether it started or not. But the reality is
[9:57] Speaker 1: we are where we are, and where we are right
[9:59] Speaker 1: now is, as you can see, we're rolling quite deep.
[10:03] Speaker 1: Right it's gone for more than a week. The President
[10:06] Speaker 1: says they've one Iran says they can keep fighting at
[10:08] Speaker 1: the current level for another six months. So who knows
[10:10] Speaker 1: where it all lands between now and then. But Bill Maher,
[10:13] Speaker 1: who is a left winger, all right, he's just sort
[10:15] Speaker 1: of an old school left winger, an old school left
[10:18] Speaker 1: winger who ends up being on the right of the
[10:21] Speaker 1: Democrat world of politics in the United States. Well, he's
[10:24] Speaker 1: got a show on HBO in the United States, and
[10:26] Speaker 1: he has for what the best part of twenty years
[10:29] Speaker 1: where he has conversations about all matters big and small
[10:33] Speaker 1: and every now and then. Because he's an old school lefty,
[10:36] Speaker 1: not this sort of new school lefty, he's able to
[10:40] Speaker 1: trip up the new school lefties with the idiocy of
[10:43] Speaker 1: some of their logic. Now, one of the arguments that
[10:45] Speaker 1: is being made by the Democrats who are claiming that
[10:51] Speaker 1: this is an unnecessary folly, this is a potentially illegal folly, etc. Etc.
[10:56] Speaker 1: Will look what happens when one of them is confronted
[10:59] Speaker 1: by billmer Uh about the logic of a president when
[11:02] Speaker 1: it comes to going to war without a voting Congress.
[11:08] Speaker 3: This statement from the administration the president had the constitutional
[11:11] Speaker 3: authority to direct the use of military force because he
[11:14] Speaker 3: could reasonably determine that such use of force was in
[11:17] Speaker 3: the national interest. That's too vague for you.
[11:20] Speaker 1: Totally vague, okay, because.
[11:22] Speaker 3: That's from Obama.
[11:23] Speaker 1: About Libya.
[11:24] Speaker 4: Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go
[11:28] Speaker 4: into Syria without an authorisation. I and many others pushed
[11:31] Speaker 4: back on that argument. Ultimately, he did not go forward
[11:35] Speaker 4: with going after Asad, even though Aside was gassing his
[11:38] Speaker 4: own people because he thought he might lose the vote
[11:40] Speaker 4: in Congress. But I respect the fact that that was
[11:45] Speaker 4: important to him.
[11:49] Speaker 1: The point being that this has been going on four decades,
[11:51] Speaker 1: multiple administrations. But again, orange ban ban, orange ban ban, Well,
[11:54] Speaker 1: what about the same logic when it came from the
[11:56] Speaker 1: guy that you thought walked on water. And also, there
[12:00] Speaker 1: is inevitably going to be a moment where we're not
[12:03] Speaker 1: going to lead the show with what is taking place
[12:06] Speaker 1: in the Middle East, not because it's not important, but
[12:08] Speaker 1: because things when they become static after a while, will
[12:13] Speaker 1: still tell you about what's going on. But you've got
[12:15] Speaker 1: to know the difference between the early days and the
[12:18] Speaker 1: super breaking news nature of things. And we'll tell you
[12:21] Speaker 1: what's going on as an update, and then there's other
[12:23] Speaker 1: news that will eventually start to take over. But I
[12:27] Speaker 1: think Friday might have been a little too early for
[12:30] Speaker 1: such a pivot. Now, I just said, I was in
[12:32] Speaker 1: Melbourne checking in on the six pm news after a
[12:36] Speaker 1: day at the Grand Prix excellent races and supercars by
[12:39] Speaker 1: the way, excellent races, soaking up all of the Oscar Piastre,
[12:43] Speaker 1: and I turned on Channel nine and okay, their leads
[12:46] Speaker 1: story on Friday. Well, okay, I get it. Formula one's
[12:49] Speaker 1: happening in Melbourne. There's one hundred and fifty thousand people
[12:52] Speaker 1: turning up each and every day, so I'll give them
[12:54] Speaker 1: this one as their lead. On Friday, good.
[12:57] Speaker 5: Evening, Melbourne's Oscar Pastree has defied pretty to finish fastest
[13:01] Speaker 5: on the first day of practice for the Australian Grand Prix.
[13:05] Speaker 1: Still still sport, sport, War still happening. War hadn't even
[13:11] Speaker 1: happened for a full week. In fact, you had to
[13:14] Speaker 1: get to sort of story four for people coming home
[13:18] Speaker 1: and story five before you got to this.
[13:22] Speaker 6: More than twelve hundred people, including children, have now been
[13:25] Speaker 6: reportedly killed since the US and Israel declared war on Iran.
[13:31] Speaker 1: And what was considered somewhere between the war and there's
[13:36] Speaker 1: a car race in Melbourne. Believe it or not, this
[13:39] Speaker 1: story and I'm not joking, was given greater prominence than
[13:42] Speaker 1: the war on Friday, less than a week after it
[13:45] Speaker 1: had started.
[13:46] Speaker 7: On Channel nine, a burst water Maine has caused traffic
[13:50] Speaker 7: headaches four peak hour commuters heading out of the city
[13:53] Speaker 7: for the long weekend. We'll go live out of Oli
[13:55] Speaker 7: Hag who's in Fitzroy North oli Key roads are closed.
[14:00] Speaker 8: Yeah, Alysha, Brunswick Street and Saint George's Road, and this
[14:04] Speaker 8: is the state of it tonight. You can see water
[14:06] Speaker 8: is continuing to flow down Brunswick Street.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Oh the humanity again. I understand that sometimes all politics
[14:15] Speaker 1: is local, and sometimes all news is local, and sometimes
[14:18] Speaker 1: people care more about what's happening in their part of
[14:20] Speaker 1: the world or even their street in their part of
[14:22] Speaker 1: the world, than what's happening on the other side of
[14:24] Speaker 1: the world. But does anyone really think the first water
[14:27] Speaker 1: main was a bigger story than the war and the
[14:31] Speaker 1: death toll which grows by the day. Now the fight
[14:37] Speaker 1: for Farah is on, and of course it is going
[14:40] Speaker 1: to be taking place May the ninth. There is the
[14:43] Speaker 1: best part of you know, more than a month here,
[14:46] Speaker 1: sort of about six seven, eight weeks that's going to
[14:48] Speaker 1: happen here in terms of the fight for the former
[14:53] Speaker 1: parliamentary home of Susan Lee. The most populous part of
[14:57] Speaker 1: it is allbree but it does stretch out I think
[15:00] Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty three thousand square kilometers, so
[15:04] Speaker 1: it goes right into the bush and there's a few towns,
[15:06] Speaker 1: including beautiful Griffith and other places that are involved in
[15:09] Speaker 1: that federal electorate. And this has been considered as the
[15:14] Speaker 1: first of the real tests about the surge for one
[15:19] Speaker 1: nation desperately trying to hold on to the seat that
[15:23] Speaker 1: they have for a long time, being the Libs or
[15:26] Speaker 1: the NAT's trying to take it back. Because remember way
[15:28] Speaker 1: back when, in fact thirty years ago, when the deputy
[15:30] Speaker 1: Prime Minister was Tim Fisher, his seat was the very
[15:33] Speaker 1: one that we are talking about. And I just was
[15:36] Speaker 1: looking around today to see is there any betting markets
[15:39] Speaker 1: to give us an idea, because to this point we
[15:41] Speaker 1: have seen the rough assumption here that this is and
[15:45] Speaker 1: remember at the last election it was what sort of
[15:47] Speaker 1: fifty seven forty three? It's a center right seat, the
[15:51] Speaker 1: surge in one nation and it is a Tiffany teal
[15:56] Speaker 1: parading as a country teal that is going to be
[15:59] Speaker 1: the alternative here. Well, guess who's leading currently in the
[16:03] Speaker 1: betting markets. The Independent. This may shock a few people here,
[16:09] Speaker 1: but I want to put a pin in this nice
[16:11] Speaker 1: and early. All right, what a couple of weeks in
[16:14] Speaker 1: what it's the eighth of March now, the eighth of April,
[16:19] Speaker 1: the ninth of May. So what best part of eight weeks.
[16:23] Speaker 1: One Nation is not second favorite, it is third favorite
[16:26] Speaker 1: right now, the Liberal Party way back in fourth now.
[16:30] Speaker 1: Labour at fifty one dollars is hilarious because they're probably
[16:32] Speaker 1: not going to run at all, so they're just taking
[16:35] Speaker 1: your money if you want to put it there. The Greens,
[16:38] Speaker 1: I'm surprised it's even at one hundred and one there.
[16:42] Speaker 1: But why is the Independent considered the favorite here? And
[16:46] Speaker 1: by some margin if you know you're betting, it's because
[16:49] Speaker 1: Labour got fifteen percent at the last federal election and
[16:52] Speaker 1: presumably you can add that automatically to the Independent. You
[16:56] Speaker 1: know that about a quarter, maybe a little more to
[17:00] Speaker 1: a third, but a quarter of people who voted Liberal
[17:02] Speaker 1: at the last election, so they won't preference one Nation.
[17:05] Speaker 1: So all of this is really fascinating. But perhaps because
[17:08] Speaker 1: the Independent may be not quite the dark horse here
[17:12] Speaker 1: but the favorite going into the race, it's why sena
[17:15] Speaker 1: left news organizations are suddenly interested in what would otherwise
[17:19] Speaker 1: seem to be a prize fought amongst the center right.
[17:24] Speaker 1: A protest vote is coming. According to the nine newspapers,
[17:28] Speaker 1: is the protest vote one Nations the Nationals, or, according
[17:33] Speaker 1: to the book, is the Tiffany Teal with a Newercubra
[17:39] Speaker 1: the ABC Today the fight f one hundred and twenty
[17:42] Speaker 1: six thousand square kilometers of Coalition heartland. The electorate has
[17:46] Speaker 1: been a safe coalition seat since it's inception almost eight
[17:48] Speaker 1: decades ago. Now voters so they're sick of being taken
[17:51] Speaker 1: for granted and ready to do something about it. Underlying
[17:54] Speaker 1: much of the frustration is the perennial fawn of water
[17:56] Speaker 1: policy complex and fort ground the challenges have rushed to occupy.
[18:05] Speaker 1: Now the National Party will they named who their candidate
[18:09] Speaker 1: is going to be for the election in a few
[18:11] Speaker 1: weeks time. It is Brad Robertson. Brad is a healthcare
[18:16] Speaker 1: and veteran's advocate. And I'm reading from the buyer of
[18:19] Speaker 1: the National Party here who lives at table top is
[18:21] Speaker 1: retired Armory colonel who had service in the military for
[18:23] Speaker 1: almost thirty years. What a formidable and seemingly good choice
[18:27] Speaker 1: that's being made by the Nats. What about the Libs.
[18:31] Speaker 1: Remember it's technically their seat that they're trying to hold
[18:35] Speaker 1: on to. Well. Angus Taylor, speaking at the News of
[18:37] Speaker 1: wils Liberal Party conference over the weekend, has said that
[18:40] Speaker 1: they're going to fight hard for it.
[18:44] Speaker 8: The Farah by election is going to be a tough fight,
[18:48] Speaker 8: but I promise you this, with your help, we're going
[18:53] Speaker 8: to be putting up a hell of a fight in
[18:55] Speaker 8: Pharah all the way through the close of polling on
[18:58] Speaker 8: the ninth of May.
[19:01] Speaker 1: Which is great, But why haven't they pre selected a candidate.
[19:06] Speaker 1: We know who the Independent is because they ran last time.
[19:08] Speaker 1: We know who the National is because they've been pre selected.
[19:12] Speaker 1: Apparently part of the logic here about why the Libs
[19:14] Speaker 1: think this is an okay option and apparently they'll get
[19:16] Speaker 1: a candidate this week. But why wouldn't you have had
[19:19] Speaker 1: a candidate put in place? Because I remember there was
[19:22] Speaker 1: a little bit of time, a couple of weeks between
[19:24] Speaker 1: when Agus Taylor took over, Susan Lee had said that's it,
[19:27] Speaker 1: I'm not going to recontest, gone out, and then the
[19:29] Speaker 1: official date being announced. There was a couple of week
[19:32] Speaker 1: window here for the Limbs to have the inside running
[19:34] Speaker 1: to go and here's our candidate. Philip Courry, writing in
[19:38] Speaker 1: the Financial Review this weekend, says the decision hold the
[19:40] Speaker 1: Pharaoh by election later than expected on May the ninth
[19:43] Speaker 1: has given Liberal Party hope that it can cling on
[19:45] Speaker 1: to the seat which susanly held for twenty five years.
[19:48] Speaker 1: It gives us time, says a senior Liberal. Internal polling, however,
[19:53] Speaker 1: is frightening to read. Internal polling described to the Australian
[19:57] Speaker 1: Financial Review weekend, is that if the by election was
[19:59] Speaker 1: held this weekend, the junior coalition partner, we'll be lucky
[20:03] Speaker 1: to achieve five percent of the primary vote. Its role
[20:06] Speaker 1: will be little more than to run and send preferences
[20:08] Speaker 1: towards the Liberal Party, that being the National Party. So
[20:13] Speaker 1: of course there's the One Nation of everything. Well, guess
[20:16] Speaker 1: what they've got a candidate. The candidate will be on
[20:19] Speaker 1: this show tonight. We will make the same offer to
[20:22] Speaker 1: the National to the lib and we will be having
[20:24] Speaker 1: a pub test in the seat of Farah where we
[20:27] Speaker 1: will get the people to be able to ask the
[20:29] Speaker 1: candidates whatever they want. One nation has gone for a
[20:33] Speaker 1: blow called David Farley. He was formally announced as the
[20:38] Speaker 1: candidate in a pre selection process that happened this weekend.
[20:40] Speaker 1: Again I'm reading from the One Nation bio. Here. He
[20:43] Speaker 1: lives at Narandra. He's a career that has taken him
[20:46] Speaker 1: from being a jackaroot, a leading major agricultural enterprises in
[20:49] Speaker 1: Australian overseas. He understands that Australia's strength begins in the regions.
[20:53] Speaker 1: David is passionate and strong about regional communities, responsible water
[20:57] Speaker 1: and land management, as well as better hospitals. There's a
[20:59] Speaker 1: big issue there. Bleeds into state politics though, but still
[21:02] Speaker 1: important to see anyway, As I say, David has been selected,
[21:06] Speaker 1: as has the nat As, has the Independent, but the Libs,
[21:08] Speaker 1: who are apparently up for the fight, haven't picked anyone yet.
[21:12] Speaker 1: David joins us a bit later in the show a
[21:15] Speaker 1: little more on One Nation two is that we get
[21:17] Speaker 1: another poll showing their strength in state politics. Now this
[21:21] Speaker 1: is really fascinating because, of course, federal politics is the
[21:24] Speaker 1: echo of where Pauline Hansen has existed for the best
[21:27] Speaker 1: part of thirty years, where she has been both a
[21:29] Speaker 1: Lower House MP, multiple time candidate and then returned to
[21:34] Speaker 1: the Senate. By the election of twenty twenty eight, she
[21:37] Speaker 1: will have served two Senate terms. She will have served
[21:40] Speaker 1: twelve years again in the federal Parliament that has grown
[21:43] Speaker 1: to a second senator in Queensland, a senator around in
[21:46] Speaker 1: New South Wales, and a senator out of Western Australia.
[21:49] Speaker 1: With Jackie Lamby being in the wabble that she is,
[21:51] Speaker 1: the expectation is Lee Hanson would be most likely to
[21:55] Speaker 1: make the grade, and there's a lot of energy behind her.
[21:58] Speaker 1: In Tasmania we know that are the upcoming state election.
[22:02] Speaker 1: Apparently anywhere between twenty twenty five percent is what one
[22:05] Speaker 1: nation could will be running that. Of course, if replicated
[22:07] Speaker 1: a federal election would get them a Senate seat there
[22:10] Speaker 1: as well. But use of US politics at the moment
[22:13] Speaker 1: is interesting because while there are many issues that exist
[22:16] Speaker 1: in every state, and there are many things that often
[22:19] Speaker 1: go wrong, this is still a first term government. It's
[22:21] Speaker 1: a first term government that is led by a relatively
[22:23] Speaker 1: popular premier in Chris Mins. Now I've made it very
[22:27] Speaker 1: clear too, I really like Kelly Sloan. I think Kelley
[22:29] Speaker 1: Sloan's a fabulous leader of the Liberal Party. I think
[22:31] Speaker 1: she'd be a great premier. I think it's more of
[22:34] Speaker 1: a two election strategy for her. But have a look
[22:36] Speaker 1: at this the explosion in support via the demos au
[22:41] Speaker 1: poll that was in the Telegraph over the weekend. It
[22:46] Speaker 1: shows the Labour Party's vote is down just three percent
[22:48] Speaker 1: since the last for state election in Nissoals, which was
[22:50] Speaker 1: two thy and twenty three. The lib Nats they are
[22:54] Speaker 1: down twelve percent, the Greens are up five percent. Why
[22:59] Speaker 1: because the other section is down nine point one So
[23:04] Speaker 1: One Nation has now jumped to nineteen point two percent,
[23:10] Speaker 1: higher than what it was at the state election. It
[23:12] Speaker 1: was one and a bit percent. That was able to
[23:14] Speaker 1: get a couple of people elected in Mark Latham to
[23:17] Speaker 1: the Upper House. Of course since left the party, as
[23:22] Speaker 1: has Rob Roberts and also Tanya Mahalic, but they were
[23:27] Speaker 1: able to get a couple of people elected. So imagine
[23:29] Speaker 1: what would happen in the Upper House with One Nation
[23:31] Speaker 1: currently with no visible candidate running in state politics in
[23:34] Speaker 1: New South Wales but still getting what a fifth of
[23:37] Speaker 1: the vote twenty one percent. That is an incredible thing
[23:40] Speaker 1: to see the strength of one Nation all over the place.
[23:43] Speaker 1: Now it all matters though about preferences. If there's a
[23:46] Speaker 1: section of Coalition people who won't support One Nation and a
[23:48] Speaker 1: section of One Nation people who won't support the coalition,
[23:50] Speaker 1: guess what happens. The Labor Party keeps winning federally, the
[23:56] Speaker 1: Teals get to run up the middle and nothing really
[23:59] Speaker 1: changes in the car. What you do with your number
[24:01] Speaker 1: two is as important as what you do with the
[24:04] Speaker 1: number one that you mark on a ballot paper. The difference,
[24:07] Speaker 1: of course, in places light in yourself wells, is that
[24:09] Speaker 1: preferential voting is optional, So just vote one might be
[24:12] Speaker 1: enough to win a seat. But we'll find out together,
[24:16] Speaker 1: all right. Meantime, a little update on the Anti Semitism
[24:18] Speaker 1: Royal Commission. I do think this thing is going to
[24:21] Speaker 1: be a snow job, and until I am shown otherwise,
[24:24] Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep saying it. It's not out
[24:26] Speaker 1: of disrespect to the commissioner personally, but come on, this
[24:30] Speaker 1: was all, of course, so raw commission the Prime Ministers
[24:32] Speaker 1: didn't want to have but ended up happening. Why because
[24:34] Speaker 1: fifteen people were murdered in BONDI speaking of a encore
[24:38] Speaker 1: of the Bondai documentary that we had a couple of
[24:41] Speaker 1: weeks ago that I'll be on straight after this program,
[24:43] Speaker 1: So send the message around to those who haven't seen
[24:45] Speaker 1: it yet. You'll see it straight after this show. Well,
[24:48] Speaker 1: this thing has only had one day of hearings thus far.
[24:52] Speaker 1: They've said that they won't hear from anyone with eyewitness
[24:54] Speaker 1: accounts in and around Bondo, so I'm not totally sure
[24:57] Speaker 1: what the Royal Commission is really about apart from the
[24:59] Speaker 1: box guest's highest because there had been there's been one
[25:03] Speaker 1: hearing day and the interim report is due in fifty
[25:06] Speaker 1: four days from now on April thirty. We learned today
[25:10] Speaker 1: that the Royal Commissioner, again an eminent jurist, is going
[25:15] Speaker 1: to make a pretty penny here. The legal bill for
[25:18] Speaker 1: the Bondai inquiry thus far is one point three million
[25:21] Speaker 1: dollars for Bell, that been Virginia Bell, the Royal Commissioner,
[25:24] Speaker 1: two million dollars for Council. According to the Australian Financial
[25:28] Speaker 1: Review Anti Semitism, Royal Commissioner Virginia Bell will receive one
[25:32] Speaker 1: point three million dollars for the year long inquiry triggered
[25:34] Speaker 1: by the Bondai terror attack, in addition to her judicial
[25:37] Speaker 1: pension of three hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Remember any
[25:41] Speaker 1: eyewitness from the attack that was the reason we had
[25:43] Speaker 1: the Royal Commission not allowed. And remember how Dennis Richardson,
[25:48] Speaker 1: the former ambassador of the United States, a big wig
[25:50] Speaker 1: in terms of security in Canberra or he was originally
[25:53] Speaker 1: going to talk about the defense issues and the national
[25:58] Speaker 1: security issues that were apparently a problem here well, that's
[26:01] Speaker 1: all getting folded into this Royal Commission as well. He
[26:04] Speaker 1: earns five and a half thousand dollars a day. According
[26:07] Speaker 1: to this, the Royal Commission spokes woman said that the
[26:10] Speaker 1: council assisting apparently base rates two thousand, three hundred dollars
[26:17] Speaker 1: for Junior Council every day, three thousand, five hundred dollars
[26:20] Speaker 1: for Senior Council, and apparently the person who is the
[26:22] Speaker 1: commissioner assisting, sorry, the person assisting eight to ten grand
[26:28] Speaker 1: a day. That means their pace one point eight to
[26:31] Speaker 1: two point three Virginia Bell one day of hearings. Thus far,
[26:35] Speaker 1: a reports supposedly on Madison with anti Semitism, but we
[26:38] Speaker 1: can't talk about the one that killed fifteen people. Report
[26:42] Speaker 1: due in fifty four days. There will be another inquiry though,
[26:46] Speaker 1: which is there have been a lot of people who
[26:47] Speaker 1: are trying to pull things into this Royal Commission, to
[26:50] Speaker 1: essentially turn it into the Royal Commission into hate. We've
[26:53] Speaker 1: seen before that there are people in the indigenous communities
[26:56] Speaker 1: who want that pulled into it. But there's already going
[26:59] Speaker 1: to be Upper House inquiry. But you didn't know this
[27:02] Speaker 1: was happening. A certain inquiry that will travel around the country.
[27:05] Speaker 1: It'll be investigating racism, hate and violence directed at Aboriginal
[27:09] Speaker 1: and Torreustralia islander people. Who is on the committee? Oh
[27:11] Speaker 1: you know who's on the committee. Just enter Price No
[27:14] Speaker 1: Lydia Thorpe, she's there. Meantime, I mate ed Husaka said
[27:19] Speaker 1: that he thinks Islamophobia should be part of this Royal
[27:22] Speaker 1: Commission because it, of course is the social cohesion part
[27:25] Speaker 1: of it. He says, the Royal Commission is about anti
[27:27] Speaker 1: Semitism and social cohesion. If that's not going to be
[27:33] Speaker 1: an examination of Islamophobia, that really is concerning, he says.
[27:36] Speaker 1: But simply that Muslim strones should not feel like they
[27:39] Speaker 1: have to beg for protection. Very fair point. All right,
[27:44] Speaker 1: I mentioned before and I put it off for long enough,
[27:46] Speaker 1: But let's have a talk about Oscar Piastre and what
[27:48] Speaker 1: happened today. Now, Australians were desperate that this bloke who
[27:52] Speaker 1: was almost almost so damn close to being the Formula
[27:55] Speaker 1: one World champion, of course beaten by his teammate and
[27:58] Speaker 1: perhaps his team bosses. Last well, he didn't get there.
[28:03] Speaker 1: The race was incredible from the start. The Ferraris off
[28:07] Speaker 1: the grid are incredible once the go line happens, but
[28:10] Speaker 1: Mercedes has got the pace on the straits. They ended
[28:13] Speaker 1: up winning the race. Oscar Piastri never got to compete
[28:16] Speaker 1: in the race. Why because he crashes on the earliest
[28:19] Speaker 1: of moments. When they leave the pits, they go around
[28:22] Speaker 1: to try to form where you have to sit on
[28:24] Speaker 1: the grid. He would have been in a reasonable position
[28:27] Speaker 1: to be competitive, but pretty obviously Ferrari was going to
[28:30] Speaker 1: overtake him on the start and then it was going
[28:32] Speaker 1: to be a blow away by Mercedes. My favorite reactions,
[28:35] Speaker 1: ironically come from Channel nine News in Melbourne today.
[28:39] Speaker 9: A lot of teas in the stands everywhere.
[28:41] Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's been shuddering, pretty gutted, but not as
[28:44] Speaker 6: much as my little boy here, who you know, was
[28:47] Speaker 6: here to see Oscar and yeah, so had a tear
[28:50] Speaker 6: in his eye.
[28:51] Speaker 3: I'll sit in.
[28:51] Speaker 7: Here when I saw it happen, and then I'm like.
[28:54] Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, no, yeah, little cutie, I'm sorry mate.
[28:58] Speaker 1: It was incredible to see how many people were wearing
[29:01] Speaker 1: the hats. One hundred and twenty five thousand people were
[29:03] Speaker 1: there on Saturday alone alone. It is the biggest sporting
[29:07] Speaker 1: event that happens in Australia by a number of people
[29:09] Speaker 1: turning up each and every year. Sadly and Australian hasn't
[29:12] Speaker 1: won it for a very long time or right quick break,
[29:14] Speaker 1: But we're more plenty to talk about, plenty to discuss
[29:16] Speaker 1: again the one Nation candidate in the set of Farah
[29:18] Speaker 1: hoping to join Barnaby Joyce in the Lower House. But
[29:20] Speaker 1: lots of discuss and debate, and it's some bold predictions
[29:23] Speaker 1: between now and then, including I reckon there's a case
[29:26] Speaker 1: for Australia to find a way to help these Iranian
[29:28] Speaker 1: female soccer players if they would love to get away
[29:30] Speaker 1: from their country and come with an ourse. But there's
[29:33] Speaker 1: a little dirty detail that might mean no chance more
[29:36] Speaker 1: than second. Thank you so much for watching wherever you're
[29:43] Speaker 1: having to be. Remember you can always see me an
[29:44] Speaker 1: email Paulotskynews dot com dot au. Remember all of the
[29:47] Speaker 1: highlights of everything we do is at that website and
[29:49] Speaker 1: make it your homepage because there's news all day, every
[29:52] Speaker 1: day and there's good stuff, hopefully on this show that
[29:54] Speaker 1: you'd like to forward around. As you know. I love
[29:57] Speaker 1: backing in the minor parties, especially the great day Limbrick
[30:00] Speaker 1: with the Libertarians in Victoria. This is an absolute must
[30:04] Speaker 1: in that upcoming election because he is a bloke with
[30:06] Speaker 1: no fear and dare I say, all balls and he's
[30:09] Speaker 1: willing to kick as many as he can along the
[30:11] Speaker 1: way because there is a government that absolutely requires it.
[30:13] Speaker 1: I appreciate him joining us this Sunday night, and Daniel
[30:16] Speaker 1: Wild of course does the similar thing at the IPA,
[30:19] Speaker 1: the Institute of Public Affairs. Lads, Hello, so Iranian soccer team,
[30:22] Speaker 1: a female soccer team here for the Asian Cup. Australia's
[30:25] Speaker 1: hosting said event. We know the likelihood of the pleasantries
[30:30] Speaker 1: upon the return of these women is going to be unpleasant,
[30:33] Speaker 1: firstly because the status of women in Iran. Secondly because
[30:37] Speaker 1: they were silent when the national anthem was being sung,
[30:41] Speaker 1: and it's been whipped up back in Iran that they
[30:43] Speaker 1: somehow were treasonous for this. So I think there's a
[30:46] Speaker 1: case if they want to come and stay here, then great,
[30:48] Speaker 1: they can stay here, then bring their families over. But
[30:51] Speaker 1: what about the idea here, David, that when we sign
[30:54] Speaker 1: up to these big international sporting events here, particularly things
[30:57] Speaker 1: like an Olympics or Commonwealth Games, and I'd assume the
[31:00] Speaker 1: Asian Cup. You agree, not to offer asylum to people
[31:04] Speaker 1: who come from other countries. Why because they want to
[31:06] Speaker 1: have the safety of knowing they can turn up and
[31:09] Speaker 1: take the people home.
[31:14] Speaker 6: Well, it's a bit of an infringement. I mean, I
[31:17] Speaker 6: tend to agree with you that if they're asking us
[31:19] Speaker 6: for help, we should try and figure out how we
[31:22] Speaker 6: can help them. But I think agreeing to that sort
[31:24] Speaker 6: of contract, like if someone's going to be in danger
[31:27] Speaker 6: and they're asking for help and we say, oh no, no,
[31:30] Speaker 6: we can't help you because we've signed some agreement, and
[31:32] Speaker 6: then they go home and something awful happens, I just
[31:36] Speaker 6: think that's a terrible, terrible situation, and like, if they've
[31:39] Speaker 6: asked us for help, then we should be helping these
[31:42] Speaker 6: people because if something happens, it's going to make Australia
[31:44] Speaker 6: just look so terrible.
[31:46] Speaker 1: Well again, it was something that I remember quite specifically, Daniel,
[31:49] Speaker 1: which was the common Wealth Games on the Gold Coast
[31:52] Speaker 1: when there was a whole bunch of people who literally
[31:54] Speaker 1: had left the athletes's village and it was the Queens
[31:57] Speaker 1: and Government, the Queens and Police that went off and
[32:00] Speaker 1: tried to find them, eventually found them, didn't take them
[32:03] Speaker 1: to a safe haven instead returns them back to the team.
[32:06] Speaker 1: Do you think there is a case here or the
[32:08] Speaker 1: reality is that they're so heavily chaperoned that they can't
[32:12] Speaker 1: even blink twice to tell us that they'd like to
[32:15] Speaker 1: stay here. Yeah.
[32:18] Speaker 5: Look, I think if there's a case, then they should
[32:20] Speaker 5: be able to stay here. But the only concern I
[32:22] Speaker 5: really have is I don't want to see a situation
[32:24] Speaker 5: where we're creating a bit of a two tiered system
[32:26] Speaker 5: or special treatment for people because they're in a sporting team.
[32:30] Speaker 5: There's plenty of people that are needy that want to
[32:32] Speaker 5: come to our great nation for a variety of reasons. So,
[32:37] Speaker 5: like I say, the concern I would have is if
[32:38] Speaker 5: you're saying, well, if you're on a sporting team, you
[32:40] Speaker 5: can stay, but if you're some other person who's trapped
[32:42] Speaker 5: in a war zone, you can't get over here because
[32:44] Speaker 5: you don't have all of the press and all the
[32:46] Speaker 5: lights on you as well. So I just think whatever's done,
[32:49] Speaker 5: it needs to be done through the proper process and
[32:50] Speaker 5: the proper system, not to set up a I guess,
[32:53] Speaker 5: an incentive for people to take advantage of it, which
[32:55] Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting they're doing here, but you're just going
[32:58] Speaker 5: to be careful with how you go about these things.
[33:00] Speaker 9: Now.
[33:00] Speaker 1: Interestingly, we know that there's as always after every election,
[33:03] Speaker 1: they try to look under the bonnet and work out
[33:05] Speaker 1: how to make things better and break the system for themselves.
[33:08] Speaker 1: But of course, of course, of course they're all about
[33:10] Speaker 1: defending democracy, right, and we know that this government is
[33:12] Speaker 1: currently looking at expanding the number of politicians more in
[33:16] Speaker 1: the Senate and more in the lower House because they're
[33:19] Speaker 1: defending democracy. Yeah, of course, not just creating more people
[33:23] Speaker 1: to be snouts in the trough. But there is an
[33:26] Speaker 1: interesting chat which is that apparently at the twenty five
[33:29] Speaker 1: election there was some new level of abuse that was
[33:32] Speaker 1: happening while people were going into polling stations. We're talking
[33:36] Speaker 1: about the prepole as well as on the day, and
[33:39] Speaker 1: apparently the Labor Party wants stronger rules around polling booths
[33:42] Speaker 1: after reports of aggressive and intimidating behavior towards volunteers and
[33:45] Speaker 1: voters during that election. The party says that the current
[33:49] Speaker 1: six meter exclusion zone isn't enough because intimidation and obstruction
[33:52] Speaker 1: often happens outside of that boundary. Labour wants a new
[33:55] Speaker 1: campaigning zone. I like this idea, but I'm going to
[33:58] Speaker 1: go even one further here, Daniel. I think there should
[34:02] Speaker 1: only be two representatives of every candidate at a polling booth.
[34:06] Speaker 1: That's it, right, and one hundred meters that way and
[34:08] Speaker 1: one hundred meters that way. No third party groups. So
[34:11] Speaker 1: you can't have the unions who counters third party groups.
[34:15] Speaker 1: You can't have you know, massteel volunteers. Because reality is,
[34:21] Speaker 1: if you want to get to how to vote, great,
[34:22] Speaker 1: you walk up and get it. Other than that, you
[34:25] Speaker 1: can inform yourself and you can go on a website
[34:27] Speaker 1: and you can print one off. What do you think, Well.
[34:31] Speaker 5: I've got to say I was a liberal candidate who
[34:34] Speaker 5: ran in a dead red seat and there were union
[34:36] Speaker 5: volunteers everywhere. So your idea actually sounds very enticing to
[34:38] Speaker 5: someone like me. Paul, I've got to say it'd be.
[34:40] Speaker 1: A level mystery of that, but that's right.
[34:44] Speaker 5: But look, I do have a bit of a different
[34:46] Speaker 5: perspective on this, So I can say that ninety nine
[34:49] Speaker 5: point nine percent of interactions I as a candidate, we're
[34:51] Speaker 5: positive or neutral. I'm sure there's abuse that occurs, it's
[34:55] Speaker 5: very few and far between, and usually it's those lefty types,
[34:59] Speaker 5: you know, the most progress sieves who preach love but
[35:01] Speaker 5: practice hate. That was my experience in the abuse that
[35:04] Speaker 5: I copped was very little, but it was from those
[35:06] Speaker 5: more far left wing type people. So I think most
[35:09] Speaker 5: people do the right thing. I am a fan of
[35:11] Speaker 5: people get involved in democracy, I have to say, and
[35:14] Speaker 5: I think more people who want to get out there.
[35:15] Speaker 5: I know it's annoying. I know when you're trying to
[35:17] Speaker 5: get to the booth and you're trying to vote, you
[35:18] Speaker 5: just want to get past the annoying people that are
[35:20] Speaker 5: trying to put something into your hand. But that is
[35:22] Speaker 5: a part of democracy in my view. So I think
[35:25] Speaker 5: that if Labor goes down this path, they are trying
[35:27] Speaker 5: to basically cement an advantage that they have with the
[35:31] Speaker 5: incumbency and the numbers that they've got. So I'm always
[35:34] Speaker 5: very very hesitant to support anything that's going to limit
[35:37] Speaker 5: the ability of people to involve themselves in an election.
[35:40] Speaker 5: So it's a no from me on this one.
[35:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, But obviously, David, from the perspective of the minor party, right,
[35:47] Speaker 1: you obviously don't have the same man power person power,
[35:52] Speaker 1: let's be inclusive, people power to be able to man
[35:56] Speaker 1: the boost. This is part of My issue about early
[35:58] Speaker 1: voting right is that I think that certainly the restrictions
[36:00] Speaker 1: should be like one person per organization for those two
[36:04] Speaker 1: weeks earlier, because just that the endless running of the
[36:07] Speaker 1: Gauntlan and sort of trying to make it seem like
[36:10] Speaker 1: one candidate has more support when the reality is is
[36:13] Speaker 1: that those volunteers could be coming from another state. Well,
[36:18] Speaker 1: this is true.
[36:19] Speaker 6: Minor parties are definitely at a disadvantage during pre poll
[36:22] Speaker 6: because it's during working hours, and most people in minor
[36:25] Speaker 6: parties are volunteers, so you know, we're at a disadvantage.
[36:29] Speaker 6: But like I tend to agree with Daniel that I
[36:32] Speaker 6: don't want to limit people's ability to participate in democracy,
[36:36] Speaker 6: and I think that's a problem. There's one big difference
[36:39] Speaker 6: between federal elections and Victorian elections, and maybe they should
[36:42] Speaker 6: think about this. In federal elections. In Victorian elections, the
[36:45] Speaker 6: number of signs per candidate are limited, and I think
[36:49] Speaker 6: that works really well so that you don't end up
[36:51] Speaker 6: with ridiculous numbers of signs everywhere getting in everyone's way.
[36:55] Speaker 6: You still have enough to do the job. Maybe they
[36:57] Speaker 6: should think about that. But I agree with Daniel as
[36:59] Speaker 6: well that most of my interactions I've had with people
[37:02] Speaker 6: have been peaceful and totally fine. Like you get the
[37:06] Speaker 6: odd odd interaction which is bad, but like mostly it's good.
[37:11] Speaker 1: Let's chick in on the hate laws which are currently
[37:13] Speaker 1: making their way through the Victorian Parliament. I noticed you
[37:15] Speaker 1: on Socials, So David Lindbrick being very strong here about
[37:19] Speaker 1: what the government is trying to do. What's the latest
[37:22] Speaker 1: because previously the Libs were going to try to fight it,
[37:24] Speaker 1: meaning there was some sort of mathematical chance of slowing
[37:27] Speaker 1: it up. But have they folded under a new leader.
[37:31] Speaker 6: Well, it's a really wild story what's happened here. So
[37:33] Speaker 6: for years the Greens have been pushing for these anti
[37:36] Speaker 6: qualification laws and about this time last year they actually went,
[37:40] Speaker 6: they got to Parliament and then the Greens all of
[37:42] Speaker 6: a sudden got cold feet because they started to realize
[37:45] Speaker 6: that their supporters are going to be the first ones
[37:47] Speaker 6: in on the first victims of these laws. And so
[37:50] Speaker 6: what they did they did a deal with the government
[37:51] Speaker 6: to make it more difficult to use the laws that
[37:54] Speaker 6: they had to go through the Director of Public Prosecutions.
[37:56] Speaker 6: Now fast forward to last week in Parliament, the government says, well,
[38:00] Speaker 6: they do a Darth Fader on them and say, no,
[38:02] Speaker 6: the deal's changed. We're going to change it to make
[38:04] Speaker 6: it easier to use these laws. And the crazy thing
[38:07] Speaker 6: is when the laws went through last time, the Libertarians,
[38:11] Speaker 6: One Nation and the Coalition all opposed it. And now
[38:14] Speaker 6: this time last week the Coalition and One Nation supported
[38:18] Speaker 6: this amendment to make the laws easier to use that
[38:21] Speaker 6: they opposed in the first place, and the Greens were
[38:24] Speaker 6: really upset about it. So it's sort of a weird
[38:26] Speaker 6: situation where the Coalition and One Nation sided with the
[38:29] Speaker 6: government to make it easier to use laws that they opposed.
[38:33] Speaker 6: I just thought it was a wild situation and you
[38:35] Speaker 6: haven't seen much in the media about it because the
[38:37] Speaker 6: Greens don't want to talk about it. The Coalition and
[38:39] Speaker 6: One Nation don't want to talk about it either, so
[38:41] Speaker 6: no one's really talking about it except for me.
[38:43] Speaker 1: Well, and we put that spotlight upon you. I very
[38:46] Speaker 1: much appreciate it. Make sure you follow. This is again
[38:48] Speaker 1: why you've got to follow people like David in the
[38:51] Speaker 1: Upper House on their socials, right because again you get
[38:54] Speaker 1: to see all of this little skullduggery that goes on. Daniel,
[38:57] Speaker 1: I want to talk about South Australia the election March
[39:00] Speaker 1: to twenty second, looking forward to heading to say to
[39:03] Speaker 1: be there on election night. Look, we'll find out together
[39:06] Speaker 1: whether it's going to be a better night for one
[39:08] Speaker 1: nation than the polls, whether it's worse. But it does
[39:11] Speaker 1: look like it's going to be a pretty shocking night
[39:13] Speaker 1: for the Libs because even in the two horse race
[39:15] Speaker 1: of Red v Blue, the Libs are in a world
[39:17] Speaker 1: of trouble. What's your sense about how and where the
[39:20] Speaker 1: Libs stay in the fight.
[39:25] Speaker 5: Well, it's clearly going to be tough. Every single poll
[39:28] Speaker 5: that you look at suggests the same thing, which is
[39:30] Speaker 5: going to be the worst election outcome for the South
[39:32] Speaker 5: Australian Liberal Party in the history of the party in
[39:34] Speaker 5: South Australia. That would come on the back of, of course,
[39:37] Speaker 5: the worst federal performance of the Liberal Party. And you
[39:40] Speaker 5: also look at w Way as another example, whether at
[39:42] Speaker 5: an extoric low as well. So look, this is the
[39:45] Speaker 5: culmination of a few things. Changing leaders is one such example.
[39:49] Speaker 5: But I think you know, yes, there's a popular premiere
[39:52] Speaker 5: who's pretty well liked and who sits across the political spectrum.
[39:56] Speaker 5: It's quite interesting to watch actually, because you've sort of
[39:58] Speaker 5: got one archetype, which is Daniel Andrews, Decenter Allen and
[40:02] Speaker 5: Victoria who are very much socialist left. And then you've
[40:04] Speaker 5: got another archetype which is Peter Malanaskus and Chris Mins
[40:08] Speaker 5: who are sort of notionally of the right, but they
[40:10] Speaker 5: do a lot of left wing things and they get
[40:11] Speaker 5: away with it. So you know, here in South Australia,
[40:13] Speaker 5: we've actually got a voice to Parliament, the Aboriginal only
[40:16] Speaker 5: voice to Parliament, even though that two thirds of South
[40:18] Speaker 5: Australians voted against it. They've got something like three million
[40:21] Speaker 5: dollars in the last budget for a treaty process. You reckon.
[40:23] Speaker 5: South Australian's want a piece of that action, absolutely not,
[40:26] Speaker 5: But they get away with it because they have a
[40:28] Speaker 5: notionally sort of centrist labor leader. So they're actually getting
[40:31] Speaker 5: away with a lot of pretty left wing things here
[40:34] Speaker 5: in South Australia. And I don't know whether the party,
[40:36] Speaker 5: the Liberal Party, has been able to sort of make
[40:38] Speaker 5: that case as strongly as what would otherwise be the case.
[40:41] Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I think come election day it
[40:43] Speaker 5: is going to be a very tough night for Blue Team.
[40:45] Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll find out together looking forward to
[40:47] Speaker 1: talking about it. The joy of this joint national politics.
[40:50] Speaker 1: But I love getting right down into what's happening in
[40:52] Speaker 1: all of the states. Won't talk about burst water Mainsill
[40:54] Speaker 1: say that for the six PM news in Melbourne, the
[40:57] Speaker 1: prominence and importance of that issue as it may be.
[40:59] Speaker 1: Enjoy a long week, David Daniel will talk to you
[41:01] Speaker 1: again very soon. All right, quick break back with more.
[41:04] Speaker 1: We're going to have a chat to the One Nation
[41:05] Speaker 1: candidate who's seating in Farah. And I want to get
[41:08] Speaker 1: a little shout out now to a little mate called
[41:10] Speaker 1: Ruben watching us for the first time tonight. Good on you.
[41:15] Speaker 1: I want to see. Let's go to Narandra right now,
[41:22] Speaker 1: which is part of the federal electorate of Farah, and
[41:25] Speaker 1: let's have a chat to the person who has become
[41:27] Speaker 1: the candidate for One Nation in the upcoming by election,
[41:30] Speaker 1: which of course made the ninth David Farley joins us now,
[41:33] Speaker 1: congratulations on becoming the candidate. Why do you want to
[41:36] Speaker 1: be a politician. You've been so successful at many things.
[41:40] Speaker 1: Why do you want to be a politician.
[41:43] Speaker 9: We've got some real issues, Paul, and thank you for
[41:45] Speaker 9: having me pleasure. We have some real issues that it
[41:49] Speaker 9: can only be resolved at the political level, and more importantly,
[41:53] Speaker 9: there can only be resolved with a little bit of
[41:55] Speaker 9: courage and tenacity. You know, Pharaoh in particular has been
[41:59] Speaker 9: under represented now for circa twenty five years. And the
[42:03] Speaker 9: issues that pre corterfer are being an agricultural powerhouse and
[42:08] Speaker 9: an agribusiness powerhouse. Is right at the core of it
[42:12] Speaker 9: is water and we've gone through a water reform process
[42:16] Speaker 9: since the last millennial drought, which is principally an extraction policy.
[42:20] Speaker 9: We extracted water from the consumptive pool, and the consumptive
[42:24] Speaker 9: pool is the border we use irrigation in the water
[42:27] Speaker 9: of we years to run our regional towns and cities.
[42:30] Speaker 9: And the reality of that, compared to the millennial drought,
[42:34] Speaker 9: and then the tinder box drought is demand as kind
[42:38] Speaker 9: growing or foods. And if you do the math of
[42:43] Speaker 9: comparing the millennial drought to a population now approaching thirty
[42:46] Speaker 9: million and an ultimately of population approaching forty million in
[42:52] Speaker 9: the twenty thirties to forties, Australia is definitely going to
[42:56] Speaker 9: have a problem meeting its food security and food demand.
[42:59] Speaker 9: So we've got some pretty major issues to address and
[43:03] Speaker 9: they need to be addressed at a political level ultimately
[43:06] Speaker 9: to get resolution to them.
[43:08] Speaker 1: So obviously this by election is one you'd like to
[43:11] Speaker 1: win White because you put you hand up you want
[43:13] Speaker 1: to be a member of Parliament. But also seemingly very
[43:16] Speaker 1: important about trying to work out just where things are
[43:18] Speaker 1: at the moment with One Nation again, you're plugged into
[43:23] Speaker 1: people who've been around for a long time, people who
[43:25] Speaker 1: know how to campaign. What are the conversations that you've had,
[43:29] Speaker 1: say with a Barnaby Joyce, about what it's like to
[43:32] Speaker 1: campaign in the Lower House when they're all up against you.
[43:36] Speaker 9: Well, it's interesting. You know, we're all going to make
[43:38] Speaker 9: decisions in life. And the good thing about it, as
[43:41] Speaker 9: you get a little bit older, you've got an experience
[43:44] Speaker 9: to tackle the issues of Pharaoh. You need a political
[43:46] Speaker 9: party that demonstrates political courage and has demonstrated political tenacity.
[43:53] Speaker 9: When I made the decision to join One Nation and
[43:56] Speaker 9: ultimately prosecute these cases for is, I looked across the
[44:02] Speaker 9: political spectrum. You know, we can measure the performance of
[44:05] Speaker 9: the Nationals and the Liberal Party over twenty five years.
[44:08] Speaker 9: We know the alliances with the Labor Party, and you
[44:13] Speaker 9: realize the time window you've got to do this in
[44:15] Speaker 9: is a two year period before the twenty eighth election.
[44:18] Speaker 9: They've were some pretty serious heavy lifting to be done
[44:21] Speaker 9: in a very very short period of time, and you
[44:24] Speaker 9: needed not only you needed the political courage and tenacity
[44:27] Speaker 9: in one nation, but you also need the mechanics and
[44:30] Speaker 9: the machinery that they offer. You know, you've got Barnaby
[44:32] Speaker 9: in the lower House, you've got the four senators in
[44:34] Speaker 9: the upper House, and it gives you the opportunity to
[44:39] Speaker 9: hit the ground running. There's not a learning curve involved here.
[44:42] Speaker 9: It's a matter of hitting the ground running and positioning,
[44:47] Speaker 9: positioning water, and positioning all the industries that applied from
[44:52] Speaker 9: that water in a better and a better competitive position
[44:56] Speaker 9: for the future.
[44:57] Speaker 1: Are you surprised that, okay, look out, but you're in
[45:01] Speaker 1: the race. Are you surprised that the bookies are saying
[45:04] Speaker 1: that the Teal, propped up by sort of Sydney money
[45:07] Speaker 1: and climate two hundred, is currently the favorite in that seat. Again,
[45:11] Speaker 1: it's one that's been held by the Nats, it's been
[45:12] Speaker 1: one held by the Libs. The assumption being that the
[45:15] Speaker 1: population center of Aubrey this should be leaning center, right,
[45:20] Speaker 1: there's certainly been a surge for one nation. So do
[45:23] Speaker 1: you think the Independent is in front because Labor's not
[45:26] Speaker 1: running or because there's some Libs who wouldn't dare join
[45:30] Speaker 1: the cause of one nation?
[45:33] Speaker 9: Now I think the Teal, the Independent Teal is definitely
[45:36] Speaker 9: in front of the principally because he's been out there campaigning,
[45:39] Speaker 9: never stopped campaigning since the last election, kept a nice
[45:42] Speaker 9: little heartbeat going underneath it all. And now I was
[45:46] Speaker 9: really starting to turn the taps on it very hard.
[45:49] Speaker 9: And I was even surprised today to see that the
[45:51] Speaker 9: Teal Independent was advertising through the Grand Prix that was
[45:55] Speaker 9: being raised. Is in good money there and there's some
[46:01] Speaker 9: good intent. But the reality is what Farah is going
[46:04] Speaker 9: to need is you've got to hit the ground round
[46:06] Speaker 9: running and you need to have some machinery and it's
[46:08] Speaker 9: some experience behind you to prosecute the case for Parah
[46:13] Speaker 9: in the Lower House.
[46:14] Speaker 1: Well that's it. I mean, you've got to be part
[46:17] Speaker 1: of something bigger, because it's the something bigger that's able
[46:20] Speaker 1: to actually, as you say, get something done last one
[46:22] Speaker 1: here everywhere. Tell us about yourself, right, tell us about
[46:27] Speaker 1: life prior to you becoming a national name in the
[46:30] Speaker 1: past couple of days. You've got a pretty significant background
[46:33] Speaker 1: in things like agui business. But give us the buyer,
[46:38] Speaker 1: the quick.
[46:38] Speaker 9: Buyer, the reader's diages version. As they said, I started
[46:42] Speaker 9: my career as a jagaroine. But I was extremely fortunate
[46:45] Speaker 9: that when I started my career with F. S. Fakern's sons,
[46:48] Speaker 9: Rupert Murdoch brought the enterprise, and therefore he gave the
[46:54] Speaker 9: business a horizon. And with that horizon he gave it,
[46:56] Speaker 9: he gave me career opportunity. He sent me to us
[47:00] Speaker 9: to study. I came back, I realized that with Rubertty's
[47:04] Speaker 9: team that they were newspaper men, and I wanted to
[47:06] Speaker 9: be an agry businessman.
[47:07] Speaker 1: I left.
[47:10] Speaker 9: F. S. Faukner and Sons and went and took a
[47:12] Speaker 9: really interesting, challenging operation. An operation was owned by the
[47:15] Speaker 9: British Coldboard Pension Fund at least to a family of
[47:18] Speaker 9: farmers out of Northern Ireland and based western of Ware.
[47:22] Speaker 9: In our first year we grew four hundred acres of cotton,
[47:25] Speaker 9: and in my last year there we were sixty eight
[47:27] Speaker 9: thousand acres of cotton, with two major cotton gins, the
[47:31] Speaker 9: Cotton Trading Book out of Australia at about eight hundred million,
[47:34] Speaker 9: and then a book out of California is our risk book.
[47:36] Speaker 9: I've set in the risk of two hundred and eighty
[47:38] Speaker 9: million dollars years, so it was quite some enterprise. Now
[47:42] Speaker 9: that enterprise doesn't exist today. The new owners have sold
[47:46] Speaker 9: the water back to the government, made a handsome hands
[47:48] Speaker 9: some profit. The five hundred and fifty staff across the
[47:52] Speaker 9: farming operations, the warehousing operations, marketing operations of all dispersed.
[47:57] Speaker 9: The plant equipment was sold off for a two or
[48:00] Speaker 9: three day auction and even the accommodation was jacked up
[48:03] Speaker 9: and shifted away, so that ninety degree of mine has
[48:08] Speaker 9: been raised with water buybacks. Then I went from there
[48:12] Speaker 9: to California ran a massive farmers marketing cooperative. Were the
[48:18] Speaker 9: biggest us that have containerized freight off the west coast.
[48:21] Speaker 9: We marked the cotton on behalf of all the most
[48:24] Speaker 9: of the Californian farmers, Arizona, New Mexico and Southwest Texas.
[48:29] Speaker 9: Then I returned from America and took up the CEO's
[48:32] Speaker 9: role with the AAK across Northern Australia good Man and
[48:37] Speaker 9: after four to five years there I a shareholder change life, live,
[48:42] Speaker 9: cattle challenges, droughts, you name it. Yeah, it was time
[48:49] Speaker 9: to rest, relax and put life to my file favor
[48:54] Speaker 9: instead of the corporate.
[48:55] Speaker 1: So good stuff, all right, lovely to me. You loving
[48:57] Speaker 1: to get to know. Obviously we'll come and see you
[48:59] Speaker 1: and be part of a pub test and all of
[49:00] Speaker 1: that in a couple of weeks time. All the best, David,
[49:03] Speaker 1: all the best. There is the candidate for one Nation
[49:06] Speaker 1: in the seat of Farah. Quick break back football. That's
[49:13] Speaker 1: our show for tonight. Thank you very much for joining us.
[49:15] Speaker 1: Stand by for an encore presentation of our Bondai documentary

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