# Paul Murray Live | 21 June

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 21 Jun 2026, 49 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/25237e14-6f51-49a0-9852-b47000d0eea0/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Labor's fuel excise cut extended into August, the prime minister shuts down succession plan talks. Plus, Pauline Hanson calls for tighter security. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Well, hello,
[0:07] Speaker 1: you come on into the man cave. We've got an
[0:08] Speaker 1: awful lot to get to tonight as we start our
[0:10] Speaker 1: working week. Hopefully I have a wonderful weekend. I certainly
[0:13] Speaker 1: know that I did spending time with the kids. Now
[0:16] Speaker 1: let us get to this here. We have been saying
[0:19] Speaker 1: that Australia had two weeks to make a decision, and
[0:21] Speaker 1: finally our decision seems to have been made here. It
[0:24] Speaker 1: all has to do with the obscene fifty two cents
[0:27] Speaker 1: elter that the federal government takes as excise tax of
[0:31] Speaker 1: every single liter of petrol that is sold in Australia.
[0:35] Speaker 1: You're throwing the GST. You're paying a very significant amount
[0:39] Speaker 1: of money. Now, this was all due to end Dune
[0:42] Speaker 1: the thirtieth. The Treasurer, who of course did all the
[0:44] Speaker 1: sums in the last budget, left no door open for
[0:47] Speaker 1: this thing being extended.
[0:50] Speaker 2: When it comes to the fuel tax cut that will
[0:55] Speaker 2: be in the budget up until the end of June.
[0:59] Speaker 2: As he said when we announced it, people shouldn't expect
[1:03] Speaker 2: to see in the budget on Tuesday night and extension
[1:08] Speaker 2: of that because we've made it really clear that it's
[1:12] Speaker 2: a temporary thing.
[1:14] Speaker 1: Well not so temporary. Prime Minister's opinion pulse six out
[1:17] Speaker 1: of ten According to the Sky News Pulse, the most
[1:20] Speaker 1: recent one that was just taken, six out of ten
[1:23] Speaker 1: people have a disapproving position of the current Prime minister.
[1:27] Speaker 1: So guess what was done today? Cashtrap motorists will continue
[1:33] Speaker 1: to receive much needed relief at the bows up.
[1:35] Speaker 2: The government's discount on the fuel excise will remain in
[1:38] Speaker 2: place for another months. The move stalls returned to full
[1:42] Speaker 2: price petrol.
[1:43] Speaker 1: And despite the fact that the Treasurer knew this would
[1:46] Speaker 1: be extended, it was for the Prime Minister to give
[1:49] Speaker 1: the gift. Remember it's our own money. But anyway, and
[1:52] Speaker 1: of course it's because he cares about those that are
[1:55] Speaker 1: doing it tough.
[1:58] Speaker 3: We know that families are still under pressure.
[2:01] Speaker 1: So could you please explain to me how it's not
[2:04] Speaker 1: the entire reduction in tax. Instead they want the credit
[2:08] Speaker 1: for not taking fifty two cents in the LITA. Instead,
[2:13] Speaker 1: the twenty five cents becomes sixteen cents after July the first.
[2:20] Speaker 1: The heavy vehicle road usage number, well that of course
[2:24] Speaker 1: goes from thirty two cents in the dollar that is
[2:27] Speaker 1: being reduced now down to sixteen. So could somebody please
[2:32] Speaker 1: explain to me that, yes, the Stratopher Merse which apparently
[2:34] Speaker 1: is closed again tonight, but still big question mark over it.
[2:37] Speaker 1: Oil prices yes, down on where they were, Inflation still
[2:41] Speaker 1: higher than what it was before the first bomb was
[2:44] Speaker 1: dropped in Iran. That when the government has an opportunity
[2:47] Speaker 1: to extend for say another three months, a small mercy
[2:51] Speaker 1: to let the people who pay all the tax, that
[2:53] Speaker 1: being the workers of Australia, give them just a little win,
[2:57] Speaker 1: just bevel off one of the edges that we are
[2:59] Speaker 1: being beaten around their head with. Why not the full amount?
[3:03] Speaker 3: Prime Minister, Well, step down will ensure certainty. We have
[3:09] Speaker 3: worked very hard to ensure there is now more petrol,
[3:15] Speaker 3: more diesel, a more jet fuel in Australia than there
[3:18] Speaker 3: was on the twenty eighth of February. But also to
[3:21] Speaker 3: bear in mind care in that on July one, every
[3:23] Speaker 3: Australian worker will get a tax cut.
[3:28] Speaker 1: Dude, he wants credit for not putting the full whack
[3:32] Speaker 1: up again. Instead, he's going to go halfway. A massive
[3:34] Speaker 1: sixteen cents a leader is what you're going to be saved.
[3:36] Speaker 1: It is immoral that when so many are doing it
[3:39] Speaker 1: as tough as they are, particularly in the working class,
[3:41] Speaker 1: that they find a new way to screw you. As
[3:43] Speaker 1: I often say, with this government, they will take with
[3:47] Speaker 1: one hand and give back with two fingers on the other.
[3:51] Speaker 1: As for the Prime Minister today and his appearance with
[3:55] Speaker 1: Kieren Gilbert on Sunday agend, had both the Prime Minister
[3:58] Speaker 1: and the Opposition leader on Sunday Agenda today, understandably the
[4:03] Speaker 1: small amount of lying which is very evident to everyone
[4:06] Speaker 1: you came up in the conversation this campaign fire the liar.
[4:11] Speaker 1: Are you worried that some of that damage is irreparable politically?
[4:17] Speaker 3: What I'm doing here, Karen, is what I was elected
[4:21] Speaker 3: to do, which was to do the right thing for
[4:26] Speaker 3: the nation. Apologize those and that is what I am doing.
[4:32] Speaker 3: You didn't say it before the election. Would it help
[4:36] Speaker 3: stem the damage if you apologize? Let's be very clear, Karen,
[4:41] Speaker 3: anyone who has a negatively geared property has had no change.
[4:46] Speaker 1: Whither are upfront with the Australian people. And then but
[4:50] Speaker 1: you're not being.
[4:51] Speaker 4: Upfront'n upfront and you haven't said sorry for that?
[4:54] Speaker 1: Well that's nonsense, Yes, it is nonsense. You my friend, sir,
[5:00] Speaker 1: a dear leader. Ah, nonsense, because you lied. Remember, we
[5:06] Speaker 1: have the tape of you before the election, expressly saying
[5:11] Speaker 1: you wouldn't do what you did if only I had
[5:14] Speaker 1: a way of playing.
[5:15] Speaker 3: It now, reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy
[5:20] Speaker 3: five dollars. The truth is that where an open, transparent
[5:24] Speaker 3: party can you.
[5:25] Speaker 1: Rule out any changes to negative gearing and capital gains tests?
[5:29] Speaker 1: How hard is it? For the fiftieth time, my word
[5:33] Speaker 1: is my bond. And then when you did exactly the
[5:36] Speaker 1: opposite of what you told us before the election you
[5:39] Speaker 1: were going to do, you then proceeded to tell us
[5:42] Speaker 1: that anyone who calls you a liar is a liar
[5:44] Speaker 1: because truly you weren't lying. Again, press play.
[5:48] Speaker 3: This is a change in our policy. When you say
[5:50] Speaker 3: you changed your position, is that a concession that you lied.
[5:56] Speaker 3: That's at a statement of fact that we have changed
[6:00] Speaker 3: our position, changing our position.
[6:03] Speaker 1: Dude, dude, I know most people don't pay attention. I
[6:07] Speaker 1: know most people sort of in and out and all
[6:09] Speaker 1: the rest of it. But the stench of this one,
[6:11] Speaker 1: the stench of this one is not going to be
[6:13] Speaker 1: pushed away. There's going to be a fair amount of
[6:16] Speaker 1: canturing and domestos that's going to be needed to get
[6:18] Speaker 1: rid of the stench that Australians have on your line.
[6:21] Speaker 1: And remember, this blog's so addicted to not telling the
[6:24] Speaker 1: truth that even when you see him fall off a
[6:26] Speaker 1: stage during an election campaign, he pretends I stepped back
[6:32] Speaker 1: one step.
[6:32] Speaker 5: I didn't fall off.
[6:33] Speaker 3: The stage, just one leg went down, but I was sweet.
[6:38] Speaker 1: Ah dude, Okay, so gather around the fireplace, let's all
[6:41] Speaker 1: do it. Let's get warmth from the television because you
[6:43] Speaker 1: probably can't turn an electric heter on. Oh that's right.
[6:47] Speaker 1: Weren't there's going to lower power prices. Oh no, that's right.
[6:51] Speaker 1: That was a lie as well. We're going to make
[6:55] Speaker 1: cost of living better, remember lower under a labor government.
[6:58] Speaker 1: Well that's a lie. We're making no changes to negative gearing.
[7:02] Speaker 1: You can take that to the bank fifty times. Fifty times.
[7:07] Speaker 1: That was a lie. We're gonna have a Royal commission
[7:10] Speaker 1: into COVID. I No, that was a lie too, Why
[7:14] Speaker 1: because that would have exposed all of those state governments.
[7:17] Speaker 1: We did nothing to help those isis brides come back
[7:19] Speaker 1: to Australia. Apart from give the passports to a bloke
[7:22] Speaker 1: who flew them to where they were in Syria. Yeah,
[7:26] Speaker 1: another lie. We're definitely going to get on top of migration.
[7:30] Speaker 1: In fact, we're going to start actively cunting immigration. Lie. Oh,
[7:35] Speaker 1: it's the lowest has been since twenty twenty two. They
[7:38] Speaker 1: said it to be closer to two hundred. It was
[7:40] Speaker 1: out of three hundred thousand last year. Taking me started
[7:43] Speaker 1: on albow and transparency. Oh, we're going to let the
[7:47] Speaker 1: sun come through. It's a new type of politics. Instead,
[7:50] Speaker 1: no frid of information laws to make it even harder
[7:52] Speaker 1: to find out what's going on. Yep, a lie. Private
[7:58] Speaker 1: health insurance, especially for people over the age of sixty five, Well,
[8:02] Speaker 1: guess what they've just reduced. They've reduced your ability to
[8:06] Speaker 1: get some of that back a little bit cheaper, meaning
[8:08] Speaker 1: the cost has gone up. So that would be ticked
[8:10] Speaker 1: as a lie. And then remember how many times the
[8:14] Speaker 1: only time in ething going in the duckdeth when you've
[8:16] Speaker 1: got one of these cards and the problem is building, Yes,
[8:20] Speaker 1: ever so slightly up. But for an awful lot of
[8:21] Speaker 1: people you need a credit card too, so that too
[8:26] Speaker 1: is a lie. Fire the lie. Almost five million bucks
[8:30] Speaker 1: and counting now one of the more amusing hot takes
[8:37] Speaker 1: that comes from the hot take world otherwise known as
[8:39] Speaker 1: the CANi Press Gallery. It's former members, it's legacy members,
[8:44] Speaker 1: it's all of fed members. Had to do with the
[8:46] Speaker 1: Prime Minister and something that was said just before the
[8:50] Speaker 1: last federal election. Now remember his biggest political defeat, of course,
[8:54] Speaker 1: to mispoint in time was the voice to Parliament and
[8:57] Speaker 1: it didn't matter what he did. Dirt of Australia eventually
[9:02] Speaker 1: went from sixty forty yes to sixty forty no. Well,
[9:05] Speaker 1: nasty Nicki Sava. I say that because she by her
[9:08] Speaker 1: own admitted admission as self confessed liar and told lies
[9:13] Speaker 1: to politicians and she would punish the people who wouldn't
[9:16] Speaker 1: leak information to her. It was all there when she
[9:19] Speaker 1: was promoting a book a few years ago. Well she now,
[9:22] Speaker 1: in between generally bagging anything to the right of Malcolm Turmbule,
[9:29] Speaker 1: occasionally drops something worth paying attention to. December twenty and
[9:34] Speaker 1: twenty four, before the last federal election. If Alberanez he
[9:37] Speaker 1: wins the next election, he should celebrate then step aside.
[9:41] Speaker 1: Now this is a very big call. Now, you know,
[9:43] Speaker 1: I couldn't be a harder marker on the Prime Minister
[9:45] Speaker 1: couldn't be a less of a fan. But I haven't
[9:48] Speaker 1: said it's time for him to resign and he must
[9:50] Speaker 1: be sacked. It's up to the Australian people to have
[9:52] Speaker 1: the great wisdom for all of that. But of course
[9:55] Speaker 1: he didn't just win. He thumped at home. But we're
[9:58] Speaker 1: now back at a scenario where, just like after the Voice,
[10:00] Speaker 1: for a full twelve months after it, vast majority of
[10:03] Speaker 1: Australians six out of ten disapprove of his leadership. Labor
[10:06] Speaker 1: Party gone from leading party to now number two one
[10:09] Speaker 1: nation up as the number one preferential party. So I
[10:14] Speaker 1: don't know why, but there were a few little signs
[10:18] Speaker 1: right out on the edges, like further than the screen
[10:21] Speaker 1: can show that maybe some people are starting starting to
[10:26] Speaker 1: do the sums on a post alban ezy future. Now again,
[10:29] Speaker 1: he expects to be different than every other politician that
[10:32] Speaker 1: he will leave on his own terms. That'll be in
[10:34] Speaker 1: fifteen elections time. That'll be after you know, the ghost
[10:37] Speaker 1: of Bob Hawk calls him up to say, mate, you're
[10:39] Speaker 1: better than I was. Darcy Bourne, who is the Mayor
[10:43] Speaker 1: of the Inner West Council, seen here on the Mighty
[10:48] Speaker 1: Hill of Leichhardoval. God love that joint. Now. Amazingly, there
[10:53] Speaker 1: was a little thought balloon that was raised this weekend.
[10:57] Speaker 1: The guests who would be the number one can tend
[10:59] Speaker 1: the one with his hand highest in the air, because
[11:01] Speaker 1: you know, Labour party is about diversity, so you must
[11:03] Speaker 1: replace one middle aged white man with another middle aged
[11:05] Speaker 1: white man. But no, it's a liberal party that has
[11:07] Speaker 1: the problem with woman. Never forget that. Never forget that.
[11:11] Speaker 1: And in the meantime, Mark Butler, the Health Minister, well
[11:16] Speaker 1: he too was being floated as a potential successor. When
[11:19] Speaker 1: the time comes in four hundred and fifty years time,
[11:21] Speaker 1: when this time that goes to Ben Chiffley will call
[11:26] Speaker 1: Anthony Abernezi to say no, you are the greatest ever
[11:30] Speaker 1: Butler will do it. This was not a wide wild piece.
[11:34] Speaker 1: This is written by Philip Curry, who's next in the
[11:37] Speaker 1: queue to replace Albernesi. Why him not charmers because Butler
[11:40] Speaker 1: is of the left faction of course, the one that
[11:42] Speaker 1: is loyal to and is from Anthony Abernesi. So given that,
[11:48] Speaker 1: completely randomly, there were two sections of the media that
[11:51] Speaker 1: were openly speculating on the what if, the when but
[11:56] Speaker 1: now again the prime Minister. He will be Prime Minister
[11:59] Speaker 1: for beyond all of our natural lives. Our unborn great
[12:02] Speaker 1: grandchildren will have only just arrived on the same women.
[12:06] Speaker 1: He will consider that after his twenty eighth election win,
[12:10] Speaker 1: this might be the time he will be ruling like
[12:12] Speaker 1: a king from Copa Cabana. That'll be the Northern Lodge.
[12:15] Speaker 1: It will be referred to as well. Again. In an
[12:18] Speaker 1: interview with Kieran Gilbert, the Prime Minister was asked about this.
[12:22] Speaker 1: Wasn't he puppy that there was even a suggestion that
[12:25] Speaker 1: there was daylight after him, let alone potentially light at
[12:29] Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel for the rest of us.
[12:32] Speaker 1: There's been a lot of speculation about who the era
[12:34] Speaker 1: apparent is. Would Mark Butler be your preferred era apparent?
[12:37] Speaker 1: He's a good friend of yours.
[12:39] Speaker 3: I am. I am very happy to do the job
[12:43] Speaker 3: that I have And one of the good things about
[12:46] Speaker 3: our government is there isn't any speculation.
[12:49] Speaker 1: Where are United Teams people thinking who's next? No one
[12:52] Speaker 1: don't have any ideas.
[12:53] Speaker 3: No one in our caucus is worried about that.
[12:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's completely not at all the reason Jim Chalmers
[13:01] Speaker 1: didn't get a little bit loose when he was on
[13:03] Speaker 1: the cans and now it isn't on the cans because
[13:05] Speaker 1: he's totally not focused on that goal anyway. It's not
[13:07] Speaker 1: gonna happen. It not gonna happen anytime soon. We all
[13:09] Speaker 1: wish it would, but it ain't. But interesting that all
[13:12] Speaker 1: of that was in the air today. Now, let's talk
[13:14] Speaker 1: about political violence, because it matters. And regardless of whether
[13:18] Speaker 1: you like or dislike a politician, there is no area
[13:22] Speaker 1: at all that is acceptable to start threatening these people. Okay,
[13:25] Speaker 1: it is not okay. You can, you know, metaphorically, raise
[13:29] Speaker 1: your fists and be annoyed with their decisions. Find fair enough.
[13:32] Speaker 1: And the Prime Minister constantly talks about turning down the temperature.
[13:37] Speaker 3: I've stood in this courtyard so many times and said,
[13:41] Speaker 3: turn the temperature down, turn down the temperature. We need
[13:45] Speaker 3: to turn the temperature down. Well, you need to turn
[13:49] Speaker 3: the temperature down, turn down the temperature, lowering the temperature.
[13:55] Speaker 1: It's very, very moderate and reasonable. Right now. He of
[13:57] Speaker 1: course can turn up the buns and burner when he
[14:00] Speaker 1: wants to, when he wants to have a go at
[14:01] Speaker 1: a political opponent, when he wants to be dismissed that
[14:03] Speaker 1: anyone who agrees, who disagrees with what he has to say.
[14:06] Speaker 1: You can say the nastiest possible things about his political opponents,
[14:09] Speaker 1: but he'll always be able to point at the transcript,
[14:11] Speaker 1: see the bit where I said turn down the temperature. Well,
[14:14] Speaker 1: let's see if in the next twenty four hours he
[14:16] Speaker 1: has that to say about Pauline Hansen. Now paul and Hanson,
[14:19] Speaker 1: of course preferred prime minister. According to some posts, this
[14:21] Speaker 1: will go up, this will go down. We'll all wait
[14:22] Speaker 1: and see together. But you may have noticed a report
[14:25] Speaker 1: that was in the Sunday newspapers this weekend, written by
[14:29] Speaker 1: my mate Jason Morrison, and it was about Pauline Hanson
[14:32] Speaker 1: and the amount of death threats that she is getting. Now.
[14:34] Speaker 1: I don't generally don't talk about this stuff because I
[14:38] Speaker 1: think it does elevate a certain level of threats, but
[14:40] Speaker 1: I think people need to understand what is happening at
[14:42] Speaker 1: the moment. The Saturday Telegraph has seen and heard a
[14:45] Speaker 1: stream of disturbing abuse that is directed at miss Hanson,
[14:50] Speaker 1: including text messages, voicemails, since it we're private, fone, the
[14:53] Speaker 1: electorate office and other contact points. Some messages contain threats
[14:58] Speaker 1: of sexual violence, physical assault, death and death directed at
[15:01] Speaker 1: the Senator, her staff and her relatives. One message that
[15:05] Speaker 1: was seen by the telegraphs that I'm going to kill
[15:06] Speaker 1: you before threatening you hurt members of her family. Another
[15:09] Speaker 1: one read your protection won't protect you forever. The brutality
[15:13] Speaker 1: in violence and some of those messages and voicemails is
[15:16] Speaker 1: too extreme to publish now. Again, like would dislike any
[15:23] Speaker 1: politician in Australia, from Pauline Hansen to Lydia Thorpe, from
[15:28] Speaker 1: a loony member of the Greens tautology through too Again,
[15:34] Speaker 1: no one you would ever vote for. We can all
[15:36] Speaker 1: be critical, we can all be angry, but you can't
[15:39] Speaker 1: take it to this level of I'm going to hurt you.
[15:40] Speaker 1: I'm going to hurt you. This is of course disgraceful
[15:42] Speaker 1: and I hope that the full law goes upon these people.
[15:45] Speaker 1: But there is a quiet part that needs to be
[15:47] Speaker 1: said out loud, and that is that when this stuff happens,
[15:50] Speaker 1: we need to up the physical security. Now, there has
[15:55] Speaker 1: been a long term amount of pressure in and around
[15:58] Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen, and the high she goes, the louder that
[16:01] Speaker 1: stuff gets. And just like I would want maximum protection
[16:05] Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister, for the Larissa Water at the Greens,
[16:08] Speaker 1: for Angus Taylor and the Coalition. I want maximum protection
[16:13] Speaker 1: for Pauline Hansen. Responding to all of this today, the
[16:17] Speaker 1: Senator said that in Queensland, I'm relatively safe, but I'm
[16:20] Speaker 1: well aware that it takes just one mentally unstable person
[16:22] Speaker 1: to create a safety risk for myself, my staff or
[16:26] Speaker 1: members of the public. Doing my job shouldn't be putting
[16:30] Speaker 1: my safety or the safety of the public at risk.
[16:32] Speaker 1: But sadly I'm aware of the threats that have increased
[16:35] Speaker 1: in recent times and therefore I understand the need for
[16:37] Speaker 1: the AFP to conduct a full review of my protection.
[16:41] Speaker 1: Now again, I can't tell other people's secrets outside of school,
[16:49] Speaker 1: but there have been some pretty close calls in and
[16:52] Speaker 1: around Australian politics that thankfully you don't get to see.
[16:57] Speaker 1: There are some that do make their way towards the court.
[17:00] Speaker 1: But very obviously, if Senator Hansen says she needs more
[17:03] Speaker 1: protection and she's able to have the receipts of the
[17:05] Speaker 1: threats to help prove it, will she should be receiving
[17:08] Speaker 1: that protection again. Prime Minister when asked about it today.
[17:11] Speaker 1: Big interview with Kurring today here on Sunday agenda. Will
[17:14] Speaker 1: He tried to pretend that, just like his own pay rises,
[17:17] Speaker 1: he has nothing to do with that. He couldn't possibly
[17:19] Speaker 1: pick up the phone and say, hey, look I just
[17:20] Speaker 1: read this thing in the paper. Is she getting the
[17:23] Speaker 1: right amount of protection? Sorry, this was from Prescotts.
[17:28] Speaker 3: They have Pete decide their things independently based upon their assessments.
[17:34] Speaker 3: This is not These decisions are not political.
[17:39] Speaker 1: A little more on one nation as they continue to
[17:41] Speaker 1: climb in the polls. As I told you after the
[17:44] Speaker 1: National Press Club speech, but just a little bit before,
[17:47] Speaker 1: it seems that all rhetorical guns are aimed in their
[17:50] Speaker 1: direction right now. Why because they're winning, Why because they
[17:53] Speaker 1: are doing well? Why because they are particularly doing well
[17:57] Speaker 1: with demographics of the Labor Party. Well, they would have
[17:59] Speaker 1: assumed them to be their own. So take your pick
[18:03] Speaker 1: of some of the puller parts that were happening in
[18:05] Speaker 1: the media this weekend, pulling Hanson's views on paid parental
[18:08] Speaker 1: lever outdated and concerning say advocates. I'm not sure what
[18:11] Speaker 1: either of a views are on that the Guardian has
[18:14] Speaker 1: the same topic at the same time on the same weekend.
[18:17] Speaker 1: How can we as I did show you last week
[18:20] Speaker 1: and geez, I've got a bit of agro about this,
[18:21] Speaker 1: but hey, I'm going to tell you the truth, right,
[18:23] Speaker 1: that's the number one loyalty. I told you that the
[18:27] Speaker 1: union movement think that there is a vulnerability here when
[18:30] Speaker 1: it comes to Pauling hanson voting record and workers' rights.
[18:34] Speaker 1: Sally McManus has made it clear. I showed you the
[18:37] Speaker 1: videos last week. This is going to be their campaign.
[18:39] Speaker 1: Now it's nowhere as good as fire the liar, but
[18:42] Speaker 1: clearly it is where they think they're going to be
[18:44] Speaker 1: able not to take conservative voters off one nation, not
[18:48] Speaker 1: to take independent voters off one nation, but maybe peel
[18:50] Speaker 1: one two three percent of labor voters off one nation,
[18:53] Speaker 1: meaning label would still be sweet, that still win an election,
[18:56] Speaker 1: and whatever happens on the other side of the house
[18:57] Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Prime Minister, one more time, time.
[19:02] Speaker 3: One Nation pretend that they stand for battlers whilst getting
[19:09] Speaker 3: planes given to them by Australia's richest person, while receiving
[19:14] Speaker 3: donations from some of the very wealthiest people, while making
[19:18] Speaker 3: sure as well that they want it to be easier
[19:22] Speaker 3: to sack people. They oppose increases in the minimum wage,
[19:26] Speaker 3: they oppose our support for childcare. They've opposed our support
[19:31] Speaker 3: and expansion and strengthy of medicare, they've opposed free tafe.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Okay, Promeis is doing this because, as I said, there
[19:39] Speaker 1: is a vulnerability to Labor here one, two, three, four, five.
[19:43] Speaker 1: I don't know how many percentities, but remember how six
[19:45] Speaker 1: out of ten Australians do not approve of the Prime
[19:48] Speaker 1: Minister and his performance. Well, when it comes to the
[19:51] Speaker 1: working class vote, one nation is well and truly on
[19:54] Speaker 1: top eleven points in front of Labor. This would be
[19:58] Speaker 1: where Labour would start to worry about some of the
[20:00] Speaker 1: areas that they have taken for granted. So pretending that
[20:03] Speaker 1: she's the billionaire's best friend, as if Anthony ALBERNIZI has
[20:06] Speaker 1: never been to the Pratt household getting major donations from billionaires,
[20:12] Speaker 1: as if the Labor Party has never received millions of
[20:14] Speaker 1: dollars from the CFMU over the years. Working class voters
[20:19] Speaker 1: sixty five percent of them are dissatisfied with the Prime
[20:22] Speaker 1: Minister's performance. So the next range of hits that are
[20:27] Speaker 1: going to come from the government and their mates in
[20:28] Speaker 1: the media, which is the media, is going to be
[20:31] Speaker 1: in and around this area market because you can see
[20:35] Speaker 1: what they're starting to do now. Previously we've seen the
[20:38] Speaker 1: Labor Party do this in the past, and then people
[20:40] Speaker 1: turn around after an election, go, she saw those lies
[20:42] Speaker 1: they kept telling. I'm telling you now, I'm telling you
[20:44] Speaker 1: right now, before an election, while they're hiring the polls
[20:48] Speaker 1: where the hits are going to start coming from. Okay,
[20:50] Speaker 1: keep an eye on them, watch them, and it's up
[20:53] Speaker 1: to one nation to have a way to push back.
[20:54] Speaker 1: We'll all wait, watch and see together. And remember late
[20:57] Speaker 1: last week I showed you how the Envoy to combat
[21:03] Speaker 1: Islamophobia was about as patronizing as you could be about
[21:08] Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson and the speech because you know, his coded
[21:10] Speaker 1: way was saying she's dumb. Why because she doesn't really
[21:13] Speaker 1: read books as a Muslim. Is encouraging to hear paul
[21:17] Speaker 1: In Hanson quote from a book. If there's one thing
[21:19] Speaker 1: we need, it's more reading. Well, a former cricket writer,
[21:24] Speaker 1: I think. But now General O, pioneer of all things
[21:26] Speaker 1: to the left and surely massive fan of this program,
[21:29] Speaker 1: Malcolm Knox, well he just came out and said it
[21:32] Speaker 1: didn't he Hanson is right about political correctness. It stops
[21:35] Speaker 1: us calling her stupid. Now he does in the article
[21:40] Speaker 1: say that to say this will of course potentially insult
[21:43] Speaker 1: the people who are planning on voting for her or support,
[21:46] Speaker 1: But yeah, a little bit of an insight in the
[21:48] Speaker 1: first of what they really think of her, what they
[21:50] Speaker 1: really think of you, of what they really think of
[21:53] Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't agree with every single step of what
[21:56] Speaker 1: this government is doing. And remember that reporting it from
[21:59] Speaker 1: the Guardian, and who's been defended as a great warrior
[22:03] Speaker 1: of free speech because she was up there in the
[22:06] Speaker 1: grille of Paul Enhanson the National Press Club. She was
[22:09] Speaker 1: the same person who was totally forgiving of the government
[22:13] Speaker 1: not telling the truth in an election because the media
[22:16] Speaker 1: environment's really toxic. So you know, it's a straight arrow,
[22:21] Speaker 1: straight arrow when it comes to Pauline Hansen, as bent
[22:24] Speaker 1: as you get when it comes to Albow and the
[22:26] Speaker 1: mates of the left. Now, let us talk about other
[22:31] Speaker 1: people's money, how they like to spend what you work,
[22:33] Speaker 1: Oh so damn hard. For Another example of this is
[22:37] Speaker 1: worth showing you here, which is when it comes to
[22:43] Speaker 1: the pork barreling millions of dollars which the government is
[22:48] Speaker 1: ready to hand out, but of course they don't do
[22:51] Speaker 1: it at all in a political fashion. They accuse that
[22:53] Speaker 1: of being something the Liberals do.
[22:56] Speaker 3: Pork barreling, pork barreling, and the pork barreling is just
[23:00] Speaker 3: out of control.
[23:02] Speaker 1: Well, the Infrastructure Minister is Catherine King, and I thought
[23:05] Speaker 1: I should tell you just a little oinky story about
[23:10] Speaker 1: the way Labor is spending its money. Eighty three percent
[23:13] Speaker 1: of grants are going to labor electorates. Eighty three percent
[23:16] Speaker 1: pork barreling, pot kettle, hello everyone. Only organizations identified by
[23:21] Speaker 1: the Albernezi governor invited to apply for a share of
[23:23] Speaker 1: five hundred sixty million dollars. Applications closed December last year.
[23:27] Speaker 1: According to the grant Connect website, the program has so
[23:30] Speaker 1: far provided funds for eighteen projects the value of sixty
[23:33] Speaker 1: four million dollars. Fourteen worth fifty six million dollars went
[23:37] Speaker 1: to labor electorates. However, Coalition analysis of Labour's infrastructure grant
[23:43] Speaker 1: allocations show eighty three percent of funding has benefited projects
[23:48] Speaker 1: in labor electorates. So we can add another one to
[23:51] Speaker 1: the list of lies. We're not going to pork barrel
[23:55] Speaker 1: We will not make political considerations where we send money. Instead,
[24:00] Speaker 1: they're still doing it now. Big weekend for Jess Wilson.
[24:05] Speaker 1: She seems to really be an election mode right now.
[24:08] Speaker 1: Of course that's the leader of the opposition in Victoria.
[24:11] Speaker 1: I'm loving, loving the campaign t shirts people are wearing,
[24:16] Speaker 1: which is you know, yes, Jess, we can, Jess we can? Yeah. Cool, cute. Right,
[24:20] Speaker 1: She's going around the state and she in fact went
[24:22] Speaker 1: to Bendigo. I think it was this weekend as the
[24:24] Speaker 1: start of a mini pre election campaign. But let's be honest,
[24:28] Speaker 1: there's been an election campaign going for as long as
[24:31] Speaker 1: we can talk about it in Victoria. But I want
[24:34] Speaker 1: to talk about our old mate, just into Allen, the
[24:36] Speaker 1: person who thinks she will still be premier despite the
[24:39] Speaker 1: majority of her colleagues apparently not being all that into
[24:41] Speaker 1: it but lacking the courage to actually move on her now.
[24:45] Speaker 1: She believes that work from home legislation making it easier
[24:48] Speaker 1: to bludget work would be the savior of her at
[24:52] Speaker 1: this election because despite what they've done to schools, despite
[24:54] Speaker 1: they've done to the hill system, Despie, they've under the finances, Despie,
[24:57] Speaker 1: but they've done to crime. You'll vote for them because
[25:00] Speaker 1: because this is the one great idea. A little bit
[25:03] Speaker 1: like when Daniel Andrews was trying to sibe his own backside,
[25:05] Speaker 1: and they were pretending in regional areas. Yeah, we're bidding
[25:08] Speaker 1: for the Commonwealth Games. No, no, we really are, which
[25:11] Speaker 1: means we'll have a pool here in a velodrome there,
[25:13] Speaker 1: and we'll fix this and we'll fix that. Only of course,
[25:15] Speaker 1: for none of that to happen. That was a distraction
[25:17] Speaker 1: back then because the way they ran the Triple O
[25:20] Speaker 1: system before that election that they won handsibly, well, not
[25:24] Speaker 1: quite as good. In fact, thirty three people died as
[25:28] Speaker 1: a result of the way the Andrews government was running
[25:31] Speaker 1: that system. Nothing look over here, look over here, State
[25:34] Speaker 1: Electricity Commission. Well again, not up to me, up to
[25:39] Speaker 1: the good people of Victoria. Should you be watching right now?
[25:42] Speaker 1: I want to talk about schools under this government. Not
[25:45] Speaker 1: work from home, but schools under this government. The Orders
[25:48] Speaker 1: to General Independent Office released the following report late last week.
[25:52] Speaker 1: Didn't get a chance to talk about it then, do now?
[25:54] Speaker 1: Green dots mean this is the cluster of schools that
[25:57] Speaker 1: are in good condition right now? Cheez, It wouldn't surprise
[26:01] Speaker 1: you that an awful lot of those are around Melbourne, right. Yes,
[26:03] Speaker 1: that's where the population is, but also that's where the
[26:06] Speaker 1: woke lefty vote is and that's where they think they
[26:08] Speaker 1: can win another election. The problem is it's an awful
[26:11] Speaker 1: lot more seats in regional areas and suburban areas, which
[26:15] Speaker 1: means the number of dots that are worn in terms
[26:19] Speaker 1: of school infrastructure. Well, it starts to spread out a
[26:23] Speaker 1: little bit, doesn't it like a virus. And she's I
[26:27] Speaker 1: wonder if the Labor Party is going to get punished
[26:31] Speaker 1: by regional people because that's the dot for every place
[26:35] Speaker 1: that is referred to by the Order to General as
[26:38] Speaker 1: schools that are in poor condition. That's statewide. This is
[26:42] Speaker 1: in Melbourne where again places like Sunshine, Doncaster, Nunna Warding, Craigieburn,
[26:50] Speaker 1: these are all sort of edges of Melbourne. But still
[26:53] Speaker 1: you see the picture here, particularly that issue around the
[26:57] Speaker 1: very edges of Melbourne. This is the place where the
[26:59] Speaker 1: Labour Party was able to run it up big last time.
[27:02] Speaker 1: Presumably this is where one nation is running it up big. Now,
[27:04] Speaker 1: do not be distracted by the election year change of subject.
[27:08] Speaker 1: Oh and also never forget that the very organization that
[27:12] Speaker 1: produced that report that showed you the good schools and
[27:15] Speaker 1: here where the premier lives, the poor schools are as
[27:18] Speaker 1: far away from her as possible. They cut the funding
[27:23] Speaker 1: to that organization in the last state federal budget. Now
[27:28] Speaker 1: parliament is again back this week. Oh what fun that
[27:31] Speaker 1: will be. But yet again a reminder that you work
[27:33] Speaker 1: hard and most people have to work a couple of
[27:35] Speaker 1: days paying off the tax that you will give to
[27:37] Speaker 1: the government that goes to the bad politicians and the
[27:40] Speaker 1: staff who make crap social media videos. Oh look, she's back.
[27:45] Speaker 6: West lighting into six months of paper and to leap
[27:48] Speaker 6: from one July.
[27:50] Speaker 1: Oh serious, Okay, I say this how many times. I
[27:56] Speaker 1: understand that there's different ways to present things. I understand,
[28:00] Speaker 1: and that there are different ways to communicate with people,
[28:02] Speaker 1: and I understand that there are different platforms under which
[28:05] Speaker 1: people want to be communicated with. But can we can
[28:07] Speaker 1: we actually play that again? Right? Rack that up and
[28:09] Speaker 1: play it again, because this is a federal member of parliament,
[28:13] Speaker 1: all right, This is a person who writes the legislation
[28:17] Speaker 1: that applies to all of us. Now again, you can
[28:20] Speaker 1: have your fun whatever, But how is this anything other
[28:23] Speaker 1: than pretending your host you're hosting your children's show, rather
[28:26] Speaker 1: than communicating with voters and anyone who liked this post feeding.
[28:32] Speaker 6: Worst lighting in to six months of paper.
[28:34] Speaker 1: And to lead from one July. Enough enough we've got
[28:38] Speaker 1: another labor cenator at this time.
[28:43] Speaker 6: The Liberal Party are like that terrible housemate that Australians
[28:47] Speaker 6: never ask for. They leave the place in a mess,
[28:50] Speaker 6: they never clean up after themselves, and they have no
[28:53] Speaker 6: real solutions for the problems we're they see. The Australians
[28:57] Speaker 6: deserve better than a housemate like the little girl.
[29:02] Speaker 1: What apart from anything the house made, the key element
[29:07] Speaker 1: about the housepan is do they pay their bills on time? Right?
[29:09] Speaker 1: Otherwise if they don't pay the rent flick, which in
[29:12] Speaker 1: your case would be how big is the budget deficit
[29:15] Speaker 1: this year made? And you're going to take it to
[29:17] Speaker 1: a one point two trillion dollars in debt? Last one?
[29:22] Speaker 1: Hear the Animal Justice Party whatever? This time next week
[29:40] Speaker 1: we're going to be in Darwin. I'd love you to
[29:41] Speaker 1: join us for ourtown in burramar If you can, please
[29:44] Speaker 1: send me an email ourtown at sky News dot com.
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[29:48] Speaker 1: you next week next Sunday, Darwin? How goods are going
[29:51] Speaker 1: to be more in a sec here on Paul Murray Life.
[30:00] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching wherever you happen to be.
[30:01] Speaker 1: Maybe you can always send me in m polots gonews
[30:03] Speaker 1: dot com dot are you joining us right now? Daniel
[30:05] Speaker 1: Wild from the IPA love you to see him. And
[30:08] Speaker 1: of course Christen Abrams, who was running as an independent
[30:11] Speaker 1: in the state of Franks and the outcome of Victorian election.
[30:13] Speaker 1: I'm sure she was paying attention to every dot, every
[30:15] Speaker 1: color that was just there when it comes to the
[30:17] Speaker 1: local schools. If not, I'll send you the doc made
[30:19] Speaker 1: all right. Love to see you both, Sir Daniel. The
[30:22] Speaker 1: Prime Minister, he understands people are still hurting. So I'm
[30:25] Speaker 1: such a great bloke for making sure that we haven't
[30:27] Speaker 1: put petrol tax all the way up to fifty two
[30:30] Speaker 1: cents Elia, And I'm awesome because I'm going to save
[30:33] Speaker 1: you sixteen cents, but only for a couple more weeks. Honestly,
[30:37] Speaker 1: does this bloke have any idea how we see straight
[30:41] Speaker 1: through him? So street's a pane of glass now, well,
[30:46] Speaker 1: I think that's right.
[30:47] Speaker 7: I don't think he does have any idea of this.
[30:49] Speaker 7: He's very aloof from what ordinary Australians think and their
[30:54] Speaker 7: lived experience. And you know, it's a couple of things
[30:56] Speaker 7: about this. Firstly, I've got to tell you I don't
[30:58] Speaker 7: think the government minds if the few fuel price goes up,
[31:01] Speaker 7: because they're all about electric vehicles, right, So if it
[31:04] Speaker 7: costs more to run an internal combustion engine vehicle than
[31:07] Speaker 7: so much the better from their vantage points. So they're
[31:10] Speaker 7: probably wanting to get the fuel prices right up to
[31:13] Speaker 7: where they were before the Iran War. The other point
[31:16] Speaker 7: that I'll make, and we've talked about this before, but
[31:19] Speaker 7: this has really been yet another missed opportunity to deal
[31:21] Speaker 7: with the seriousness of this issue. The reason why fuel
[31:24] Speaker 7: prices skyrocket isn't just because of excise, it's not just
[31:28] Speaker 7: because of the Iran War. It's because we don't have
[31:30] Speaker 7: the ability to make and refine our own oil. Here
[31:34] Speaker 7: in Australia. We import eighty percent of our liquid fuels today.
[31:38] Speaker 7: That's the inverse of what it was two decades ago.
[31:40] Speaker 7: Right two decades ago we had eighty percent here. Now
[31:43] Speaker 7: we bring in eighty percent from overseas. The government has
[31:45] Speaker 7: done nothing about that fundamental problem. So unfortunately, the next
[31:50] Speaker 7: time there's another shock overseas prices will go up again.
[31:53] Speaker 1: Christian, I can't help but think this is a government
[31:55] Speaker 1: that carries on a lot about you know how evil
[31:57] Speaker 1: the supermarkets are. This feels like one of those dodgy
[32:02] Speaker 1: practices that happens where there's a major reduction in order
[32:07] Speaker 1: to get through this week's sale, and then when it
[32:10] Speaker 1: slowly starts to come back up, apparently you won't notice.
[32:13] Speaker 1: That to me is the fundamental equation from this bloke.
[32:17] Speaker 1: He thinks he can screw people over after an election,
[32:20] Speaker 1: do something different when it comes to a budget. Hope
[32:23] Speaker 1: that nobody notices. And if you do notice, then you're
[32:25] Speaker 1: some part of some sort of right wing conspiracy. And
[32:30] Speaker 1: if you are one of the supposed people who need
[32:33] Speaker 1: most help from the government, well sorry, you don't really
[32:36] Speaker 1: need it as much because we need that money now
[32:38] Speaker 1: for ourselves.
[32:42] Speaker 5: Have you not heard the new slogan of the Labor
[32:44] Speaker 5: Party when it's come to this pool, they've said down down,
[32:47] Speaker 5: process are down. It's fifty two cents on the leader
[32:52] Speaker 5: is going to the government and it is absolutely outwritten.
[32:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, let me say, you know that big red hand
[32:58] Speaker 1: that Cole's had, right, I'm thinking can we get another
[33:01] Speaker 1: big red hand? But I'm going to use a different finger.
[33:04] Speaker 1: It's crystal.
[33:07] Speaker 5: Great idea Paul, you should put it on a merch
[33:10] Speaker 5: store as well.
[33:11] Speaker 1: I'll probably buy it done.
[33:13] Speaker 5: But it is absolutely outrageous. It's fifty two cents per liter,
[33:17] Speaker 5: and they keep referring to it as a discount when
[33:20] Speaker 5: an actual fact, it's a rought. The whole excise program
[33:23] Speaker 5: is eruled, and our roads have never been worse. And
[33:26] Speaker 5: that's why we're meant to get taxed on, you know,
[33:28] Speaker 5: fuel excise. If we should have a grading system on
[33:32] Speaker 5: our roads, and if they don't pass a certain rating,
[33:36] Speaker 5: then they should reduce excise the other way until it
[33:40] Speaker 5: ends up at zero dollars, because that's the way our
[33:42] Speaker 5: roads are going as well. Absolute, rote Paul.
[33:45] Speaker 1: Percent I just like that idea. Can we get that
[33:47] Speaker 1: anyone like? We'll do that. We'll put it on our
[33:49] Speaker 1: T shirt. Will take a few years, but eventually we'll
[33:51] Speaker 1: work it out. We'll get we'll get it to happen somewhere.
[33:53] Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about the Prime Minister when he's
[33:56] Speaker 1: confronted again. I cannot believe this, Daniel, right, all of
[33:59] Speaker 1: the skin that has been lost by the Prime Minister
[34:01] Speaker 1: or dare I say, just the mask that all of
[34:03] Speaker 1: us who've been paying attention saw never quite fit before
[34:06] Speaker 1: the twenty two election, let alone the twenty five election,
[34:09] Speaker 1: and now it's sort of fallen off since about lies
[34:12] Speaker 1: again when he's confronted about it today in the conversation
[34:14] Speaker 1: with Kieran Gilbert, Oh no, no, no, that's all that's
[34:17] Speaker 1: just people, you know, deliberately deliberately trying to spin the ball.
[34:21] Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Now he's got this, we've changed our
[34:23] Speaker 1: position thing. But he doesn't get to turn around and
[34:26] Speaker 1: pretend that the people who call him out for doing
[34:29] Speaker 1: something different than he promised, well, that's a lie in
[34:32] Speaker 1: political terms.
[34:35] Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly it, and he does have form in
[34:38] Speaker 7: this area. It actually goes back to the Voice to
[34:40] Speaker 7: Parliament debate when you know, you would bring things up
[34:43] Speaker 7: about the Ularu statement from the heart and he would say,
[34:46] Speaker 7: oh no, it's only you know, one page, it's not
[34:47] Speaker 7: twenty four pages, or it's not going to do this,
[34:49] Speaker 7: it's not going to do that, even though he said
[34:51] Speaker 7: the exact thing that it was going to do. He
[34:53] Speaker 7: would always just try and wheezl out of it. We
[34:55] Speaker 7: saw it again obviously with the budget, but also know
[34:58] Speaker 7: the other one that really I've interesting was with the
[35:01] Speaker 7: fire the liar fundraising campaign where he said, oh, these
[35:05] Speaker 7: people don't exist. When he was asked about the money,
[35:08] Speaker 7: he goes, oh, I no, have they really raised the money.
[35:10] Speaker 7: He's sort of denying that it's even happening, even though
[35:13] Speaker 7: there's real money coming into the coffers of one nation
[35:15] Speaker 7: on the back of the campaign on that exact issue.
[35:18] Speaker 7: That is a liar, and that when it's sort of
[35:20] Speaker 7: when he gets presented with information he doesn't like, he
[35:23] Speaker 7: just tells you, oh, well, don't look here, just like
[35:25] Speaker 7: the electricity bills, you know, two hundred and twenty five
[35:28] Speaker 7: dollars cheaper. Oh well that was the modeling and things
[35:30] Speaker 7: have changed, you know, don't worry about it. So yeah,
[35:32] Speaker 7: I think you're right. And then they turn around and
[35:34] Speaker 7: wonder why nobody trusts them.
[35:36] Speaker 1: You know.
[35:36] Speaker 7: That's why trust is at a low web in politics
[35:38] Speaker 7: these days.
[35:38] Speaker 1: Well and again, and particularly in the working class vote.
[35:41] Speaker 1: Right now again, this will go up and we'll go down,
[35:43] Speaker 1: but right now tonight, six out of ten people disapprove
[35:46] Speaker 1: of the Prime Minister. The number is high with working
[35:49] Speaker 1: class people. Now again, Kristen, we all get the politicians
[35:54] Speaker 1: of slippery We all understand that they are shape shifters.
[35:58] Speaker 1: But the idea that they are also gaslighters worthy of
[36:02] Speaker 1: a seat at the Maths dining table is what gets me.
[36:09] Speaker 5: There's a reason that Anthony Albanezi has lasted on the
[36:11] Speaker 5: back bench for so long before he got moved to
[36:13] Speaker 5: the front bench. He is a sneaky snake realistically, and
[36:18] Speaker 5: I think him not being honest with the Australian people
[36:22] Speaker 5: is the reason why there are Labor voters going to
[36:25] Speaker 5: one nation because don't throw a drink on me and
[36:28] Speaker 5: tell me that it's raining, and you know, it's straight
[36:31] Speaker 5: out of It's straight out of Daniel Andrew's playbook. It's
[36:34] Speaker 5: it's people are fed up and they will not tolerate
[36:39] Speaker 5: someone that says my word is my bond and then
[36:42] Speaker 5: lies to them and says it's nonsense, nonsense for them lying.
[36:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, But well, littlone thinks that anyone who you know
[36:48] Speaker 1: plays that tape again. You're going mate, you said it,
[36:50] Speaker 1: you said on TV. We didn't put those words in
[36:53] Speaker 1: your mouth. You decided to release before the twenty two election.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Cost of living will be lower under a labor government.
[36:59] Speaker 1: These were all well. The series of owned goals, which
[37:01] Speaker 1: we still had the scoreboard for now Daniel, I want
[37:04] Speaker 1: to talk about something difficult here, which is, I don't
[37:08] Speaker 1: know how many shows I've talked about homelessness, I don't
[37:11] Speaker 1: know how many conversations I've had about food bank. But
[37:14] Speaker 1: the needle doesn't move right Now, that's not because of
[37:17] Speaker 1: my advocacy or lack of the ability to do so.
[37:20] Speaker 1: There's just a harsh reality here. And we saw it
[37:23] Speaker 1: that even when Pauline Hanson was delivering a National Press
[37:25] Speaker 1: Club speech and she was reading from the findings of
[37:29] Speaker 1: the Red Shield Appeal and a concern that they had,
[37:32] Speaker 1: which was at ninety one percent of people who they
[37:34] Speaker 1: deal with they skip meals, sixty percent have eaten expired food,
[37:40] Speaker 1: nineteen percent said that even eaten for a bin. Right,
[37:43] Speaker 1: all of that, whatever, Look, look what get Up's doing.
[37:45] Speaker 1: Look what get Up's doing. Not the point of what
[37:47] Speaker 1: she was actually talking about. Now, I thought that we
[37:52] Speaker 1: had turned a corner, like a political generation to go Daniel,
[37:55] Speaker 1: about the awareness and the importance of a social safety
[38:00] Speaker 1: and the want to take care of the people that
[38:01] Speaker 1: are left behind. Now again, if this was a liberal
[38:04] Speaker 1: government with these numbers, I'd be saying the same thing, right,
[38:07] Speaker 1: but why don't people care? Why doesn't this seem to
[38:10] Speaker 1: matter because there isn't a week where there isn't a report,
[38:12] Speaker 1: and there isn't a week where the government does sweet
[38:15] Speaker 1: Fatty Adams.
[38:18] Speaker 7: I think there's a couple of things. I think one
[38:19] Speaker 7: is I think people do care, but a part of
[38:21] Speaker 7: it is out of sight, out of mind. You know,
[38:23] Speaker 7: these are statistics that would be considered by some to
[38:26] Speaker 7: be abstract and removed from their day to day lived experience.
[38:29] Speaker 7: So if you're not feeling it yourself, or you don't
[38:32] Speaker 7: know people, or you're not around people that are experiencing this,
[38:35] Speaker 7: it's hard to conceptualize. I think the other thing is
[38:38] Speaker 7: I don't know what people feel they can do about it.
[38:40] Speaker 7: I mean, realistically, you can donate to a charity, you
[38:43] Speaker 7: can do a variety of things, but there's not necessarily
[38:46] Speaker 7: a lot of things you can do again if you
[38:47] Speaker 7: don't encounter this into your life. And it's also I
[38:50] Speaker 7: think a bit bewildering. We've never this is the thing
[38:52] Speaker 7: that gets me. We've never had more money as a country.
[38:56] Speaker 7: The government has never spent more money, We've never paid
[38:59] Speaker 7: more taxes, we ever had more debt. Yet, if you
[39:01] Speaker 7: take these figures on face value, things are getting harder
[39:05] Speaker 7: and harder for people at the bottom of our society.
[39:07] Speaker 7: So something isn't matching up here, And I think it's
[39:10] Speaker 7: hard for people to understand, Well, if we're putting so
[39:12] Speaker 7: much money out the door, then why is it actually
[39:14] Speaker 7: getting to people on the ground who need it.
[39:16] Speaker 1: Well. Also, a Christian, I want the major I want
[39:21] Speaker 1: in the same way that all of our major political
[39:24] Speaker 1: leaders have to make sizeable announcements when it comes to health,
[39:27] Speaker 1: sizable amounts when it comes to defense, to start to
[39:30] Speaker 1: make sizable amounts when it comes to charities. Because will
[39:33] Speaker 1: there always be poor people? Yes, it's a whole series
[39:36] Speaker 1: of reasons why people end up in those scenarios. Yes,
[39:39] Speaker 1: but I've got to say government doesn't respond. The Salvos respond,
[39:43] Speaker 1: Vinni's respond, food banks responds. Yet all of these organizations
[39:47] Speaker 1: have to go so cap in hand constantly to government
[39:50] Speaker 1: to get fewer crumbs than the government puts into the
[39:54] Speaker 1: budget to sell themselves via taxpayer funded advertising. That's what
[40:00] Speaker 1: I hope in all of this is not to change
[40:03] Speaker 1: a vote, but to change the culture. That part of
[40:05] Speaker 1: the basic admission of wanting to be a politician in
[40:08] Speaker 1: this country is an understanding that of the hundreds and
[40:11] Speaker 1: hundreds of billions of dollars that we have, slicing one
[40:14] Speaker 1: of those billions off extra for charity would be a
[40:17] Speaker 1: good idea.
[40:21] Speaker 5: That's as well why we pay our taxes, pall, we
[40:23] Speaker 5: pay our taxes to help our most vulnerable in our community.
[40:28] Speaker 5: We want everyone in our community to have a roof
[40:32] Speaker 5: over their head and to be able to get an
[40:35] Speaker 5: education and feed themselves. We don't want anyone in our
[40:38] Speaker 5: community to go through that. And yes, I believe that
[40:41] Speaker 5: we should be supporting the charities that do the good work,
[40:44] Speaker 5: you know, the Salvation Army and others. But the Salvation
[40:47] Speaker 5: Army also did a survey and fifty nine percent of
[40:51] Speaker 5: those people that they surveyed said that they hadn't sent
[40:55] Speaker 5: their kids to school in the last twelve months because
[40:58] Speaker 5: of transport. So on one hand, we have you know this
[41:03] Speaker 5: fifty two cents per liter in a fuel excise, which
[41:06] Speaker 5: is contributing to why people can't take their children to school.
[41:10] Speaker 5: And on the other hand, we then have a government
[41:12] Speaker 5: like the Victorian government that's spending eight million dollars on
[41:15] Speaker 5: machete campaigns and machete bin campaigns are homeless people in Frankston.
[41:22] Speaker 5: It used to be two o'clock in the morning you
[41:23] Speaker 5: would go down the main street of Frankston and you
[41:25] Speaker 5: would see, you know, a couple of homeless people outside
[41:27] Speaker 5: seven to eleven. A couple of weeks ago, I walked
[41:30] Speaker 5: there are two pm and there was like four homeless
[41:33] Speaker 5: people already lined up, And that's outrageous as a society.
[41:37] Speaker 5: And then we have politicians that are virtue signaling, you know,
[41:41] Speaker 5: doing standing around and sleeping bags and saying, you know,
[41:45] Speaker 5: donate to these these charities, when an actual fact is
[41:49] Speaker 5: there are money. There is money in the budget. Taxpayers
[41:51] Speaker 5: have paid for this, but what are we doing about it.
[41:54] Speaker 5: We're not doing the right things and we're not spending
[41:56] Speaker 5: the money in the right way.
[41:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, so good about that. A machete bin thing, it's
[42:00] Speaker 1: a weird story. I'll get to it tomorrow. Which is
[42:02] Speaker 1: literally there was nowhere to film it at an available
[42:04] Speaker 1: police station in Victoria, so they went to Sydney. Crazy.
[42:08] Speaker 1: We'll get to that, all right, Daniel, before we're done,
[42:10] Speaker 1: quickly about the UK by election that's just gone. Andy Burnham.
[42:13] Speaker 1: I'll talk about this in a second with Mark Dolan
[42:15] Speaker 1: in the UK. He's the bloke who's going to eventually
[42:18] Speaker 1: challenge and probably become the next British Prime minister, but
[42:21] Speaker 1: later smashed it. Reform didn't and even Reform and Restore
[42:26] Speaker 1: together their number would not have been able to win
[42:28] Speaker 1: the by election. What if anything, does that give you
[42:31] Speaker 1: some hope or insight into.
[42:35] Speaker 7: Yeah, fascinating a couple of quick ones. So firstly, how
[42:38] Speaker 7: things changed right Kurse Starmer absolutely romped it in at
[42:41] Speaker 7: the election a couple of years ago, and how he's
[42:43] Speaker 7: out the door. You know, there's nothing that is nothing
[42:47] Speaker 7: that is secure in politics these days. And I think
[42:50] Speaker 7: the other thing to think about here is this realignment
[42:53] Speaker 7: of politics that's taking place that you've been talking about
[42:56] Speaker 7: for a long time. You know, we can see parallels here.
[42:58] Speaker 7: Really Reform has put labor under the pump. Now Kiers
[43:02] Speaker 7: Starmer is out at the door, but they're going to
[43:03] Speaker 7: get someone else into the hot seat and you know
[43:06] Speaker 7: it changes the game, so you're basically starting from the
[43:08] Speaker 7: start all over again. So it's a long march for
[43:11] Speaker 7: that realignment to actually take place.
[43:13] Speaker 1: Well, we hopefully have Nigel again on the show as
[43:15] Speaker 1: always on a Tuesday night. I we'll talk to him
[43:17] Speaker 1: about such a challenge. Guys really appreciate it. Thank you
[43:19] Speaker 1: so much for your time. To Kristen and also to Daniel.
[43:22] Speaker 1: Quick break back with more Mark Dolan in the United Kingdom, YAP,
[43:25] Speaker 1: So how long I was watching Sky in his UK
[43:28] Speaker 1: A bit earlier tonight? They claim that there's a discussion
[43:30] Speaker 1: happening as we speak that he might be gone or
[43:32] Speaker 1: at least announces on his way out as soon as tomorrow.
[43:35] Speaker 1: Is it true? We'll find out next. Mark Dolan is
[43:40] Speaker 1: a presenter at Talk TV in the UK. Joins us
[43:43] Speaker 1: now from mary Or England. Great man apparently as we
[43:46] Speaker 1: speak not having a wonderful weekend is Keis Starmer supposedly
[43:49] Speaker 1: at the Prime Ministerial retreat of Checkers God Love It,
[43:53] Speaker 1: where apparently he's being told by some of his nearest
[43:56] Speaker 1: and dearest. Okay, mate, you're done and we've already worked
[43:58] Speaker 1: out who the next guy is. So here's how this goes.
[44:01] Speaker 1: Every politician thinks that they're going to be Winston Churchill. Right,
[44:05] Speaker 1: I can fight this and then I'll come back and
[44:08] Speaker 1: fight at some more right. But generally speaking, with the
[44:11] Speaker 1: exception of Winston Churchill, it always ends badly. So the
[44:14] Speaker 1: Labour Party is more powerful than Kyo Starmer. Do you
[44:17] Speaker 1: think that the Labor Party tills key Istarmer? All right,
[44:20] Speaker 1: you're done, yes, and you're so right about that.
[44:23] Speaker 4: In your overview, Paul, every political career ends in failure.
[44:28] Speaker 4: The men in gray suits even came for Margaret Thatcher
[44:31] Speaker 4: back in the day, and this time it's Starmer's turn.
[44:34] Speaker 4: The problem you've got Thatcher won three elections and transformed
[44:38] Speaker 4: the country, turned it into a global economic, military, and
[44:43] Speaker 4: diplomatic powerhouse. Starmer's done the opposite. This guy's been in
[44:47] Speaker 4: power for less than two years. The economy is in
[44:49] Speaker 4: the toilet, the cost of net zero is eyewatering, We've
[44:53] Speaker 4: got open borders.
[44:54] Speaker 1: He's been on political.
[44:55] Speaker 4: Death row for about six months. The big problem now
[44:59] Speaker 4: is the guy to place is coming into the House
[45:01] Speaker 4: of Commons on Monday. That is Andy Burnham, former mayor
[45:05] Speaker 4: of Greater Manchester. The Party love him, and Starmer of
[45:09] Speaker 4: course realizes that it's game over. And I think what
[45:12] Speaker 4: you're going to see, Paul is a statement from the
[45:14] Speaker 4: Prime Minister from Downing Street tomorrow saying I'm offski.
[45:19] Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, the thing about Andy Burnham, right, like, I
[45:22] Speaker 1: understand how he was able to essentially sort of go, Okay,
[45:25] Speaker 1: I fouled at the national level. He actually ran for
[45:28] Speaker 1: leadership against Jeremy Corbyn way back when, right, so he's
[45:30] Speaker 1: had a couple of cracks, so he retreated. He went
[45:33] Speaker 1: super local. He basically was able to build his popularity
[45:36] Speaker 1: up by the cutting of ribbons and you know, the
[45:39] Speaker 1: kissing of baby's. Okay, fine, fear enough, but national leadership
[45:44] Speaker 1: is very different. And I'm not entirely sure that you
[45:48] Speaker 1: know that the you know, black t shirts and blazers
[45:51] Speaker 1: is going to really revolutionize the problem here, Like I think, yes,
[45:55] Speaker 1: is he going to be able to re engage a
[45:57] Speaker 1: few people on the edges that were always going to
[45:59] Speaker 1: come back labor? Yeah, probably, But I'm not entirely sure
[46:02] Speaker 1: how he is able to actually puncture through to the
[46:05] Speaker 1: people who've moved off to reform, who've gone you know what,
[46:08] Speaker 1: the system is screwed and this dude is part of the.
[46:11] Speaker 4: System absolutely right now. Andy Burnham is a talented politician.
[46:16] Speaker 4: He's certainly better at politics than Starmo, who's got more
[46:18] Speaker 4: blind spots than Stevie Wonder. He's Alstone, by the way,
[46:22] Speaker 4: much like yourself, Paul. He's a handsome devil. But that's
[46:24] Speaker 4: where the similarities between yourself and Burnham end because this
[46:27] Speaker 4: guy's got no ideas. He will agree with the last
[46:31] Speaker 4: person he speaks to in the room, and he's a charlatan.
[46:34] Speaker 1: You know.
[46:35] Speaker 4: He just was elected the MP of maker Field off
[46:38] Speaker 4: the back of vibes. There were no policy announcements, just
[46:41] Speaker 4: I'm a nice guy with all my own hair. The
[46:44] Speaker 4: problem you've got you cannot run a country on vibes.
[46:46] Speaker 4: As you've mentioned, the country is facing major problems. Particularly
[46:49] Speaker 4: the economy is the number one issue, then number two
[46:53] Speaker 4: in immigration.
[46:54] Speaker 1: So what's going to happen?
[46:55] Speaker 4: I spoke to Nigel Farage a week ago and he
[46:57] Speaker 4: said that Burnham's got a forty eight hour honeymoon if
[47:00] Speaker 4: he becomes Prime Minister, and he'll get found out horribly,
[47:03] Speaker 4: but it is going to happen.
[47:04] Speaker 1: I think what's going to happen.
[47:05] Speaker 4: Paul, is that Starmer most likely resigns tomorrow and we'll
[47:10] Speaker 4: have Burnham in by early July if there's no contest.
[47:14] Speaker 4: And the reason why they probably won't be a contest
[47:16] Speaker 4: is because all the opponent opponents would like to have
[47:18] Speaker 4: a job in his government, so everyone is kind of
[47:21] Speaker 4: greasing their palms, and the whole thing feels like a
[47:23] Speaker 4: stitch up the victim, the full guy, the British people.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that Andy Burnham has
[47:30] Speaker 1: shown any insight into how to stop mass migration, let
[47:34] Speaker 1: alone illegal migration. I haven't heard him articulate anything on
[47:39] Speaker 1: the cultural front. Instead, I think this is going to
[47:42] Speaker 1: be a guy who's going to pretend that any and
[47:44] Speaker 1: everything Niger for us says, Oh, it's just a cultural war. Hey,
[47:47] Speaker 1: just these are people who want to take us backwards.
[47:49] Speaker 1: Let's go forwards. It's a great no. No, this this sort
[47:52] Speaker 1: of slicker than you know, slicker by half is kind
[47:57] Speaker 1: of the problem, right. People want a level of authority
[48:00] Speaker 1: that Okay, this guy may well totally surprised, but I
[48:03] Speaker 1: got a feeling that he's just going to work the
[48:06] Speaker 1: press gallery of Westminster harder than he's going to work
[48:10] Speaker 1: the working folks of the North.
[48:14] Speaker 5: Well.
[48:15] Speaker 1: This is it.
[48:15] Speaker 4: It's the same in Australia. The political establishment don't get it.
[48:18] Speaker 4: The public want the truth and you won't get that
[48:21] Speaker 4: from this guy. You will get it from ferrag which
[48:23] Speaker 4: is why he'll be Prime Minister after Burnham.
[48:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, thank you mate, do appreciate it.
[48:28] Speaker 1: We'll see you again very soon. Still would manister to
[48:30] Speaker 1: do with the United Kingdom. Jeremy Clarkson, well, thankfully he
[48:34] Speaker 1: has got himself back online in the past couple of days.
[48:36] Speaker 1: Anyone who watches this show, Clarkson's Farm, I do knows
[48:39] Speaker 1: how scary it was at the end of this current
[48:42] Speaker 1: season no spoiler, because it was in the news that
[48:44] Speaker 1: he had cancer. He was concerned about what it was
[48:46] Speaker 1: going to be, how aggressive it was. Well, it seems
[48:48] Speaker 1: like they seem to have got things early. They are
[48:50] Speaker 1: now making another series, So a bump in the row,
[48:53] Speaker 1: but a reminder for everyone get checked
[49:00] Speaker 3: And was

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