# Paul Murray Live | 2 February

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 2 Feb 2026, 49 min.

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Pauline Hanson will be in Adelaide to welcome former senator for South Australia Cory Bernardi as the party's leader. Plus, Labor's integrity is nowhere to be found. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Problemers skyinging senter ft is Paul Murray Live Giday Australia.
[0:09] Speaker 1: Corey Bernardi is about to join One Nation. A statement
[0:13] Speaker 1: has just been released by the One Nation leader Pauline
[0:16] Speaker 1: Hanson that the former Liberal and then Australian Conservatives senator
[0:21] Speaker 1: is about to rejoin politics. He will be the South
[0:24] Speaker 1: Australian leader of One Nation at the upcoming state election.
[0:29] Speaker 1: The announcement will be made formerly tomorrow in Adelaide and
[0:34] Speaker 1: Corey Bernardi will join us on Paul Murray Live tomorrow
[0:37] Speaker 1: night from Adelaide. A notice has just been sent to
[0:41] Speaker 1: the media that the One Nation leader Pauline Hanson will
[0:44] Speaker 1: be in Adelaide with the former Senator for South Australia,
[0:47] Speaker 1: Corey Bernardi, as the party's leader in the state and
[0:50] Speaker 1: lead candidate for the Legislative Council election, which is on
[0:53] Speaker 1: March the twenty first. This is the most significant defection
[0:59] Speaker 1: in state politics for some period of time, and certainly
[1:02] Speaker 1: a major announcement in terms of people wanting to rejoin
[1:07] Speaker 1: politics and rejoin politics under the banner of the surging
[1:11] Speaker 1: One Nation. There had been speculation that this was to
[1:14] Speaker 1: be a federal political announcement, but no, this is an
[1:17] Speaker 1: announcement about Corey Bernardi leading the Upper House ticket in
[1:21] Speaker 1: the South Australian election. It's important to know that you
[1:25] Speaker 1: need about eight percent of the vote. One Nation is
[1:27] Speaker 1: polling well above that right now across South Australia to
[1:31] Speaker 1: win an Upper House seat. It is a state wide
[1:34] Speaker 1: vote and therefore the chances of the polling turning into
[1:39] Speaker 1: an elected representative is pretty good. Corey Bernardi is about
[1:44] Speaker 1: to join One Nation formerly announced tomorrow and our mate
[1:49] Speaker 1: will be here to talk about the wise and what
[1:51] Speaker 1: he wants to do and why he wishes to re
[1:53] Speaker 1: enter politics under the flag of One Nation tomorrow night,
[1:57] Speaker 1: exclusive here on Paul Murray Life. As we know tomorrow
[2:04] Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank is likely to raise interest rates. Now
[2:07] Speaker 1: hopefully it doesn't. Hopefully the media has collectively got it wrong.
[2:10] Speaker 1: But the expectation is that by this time tomorrow night
[2:13] Speaker 1: we are talking about having to pay even more off
[2:16] Speaker 1: our home loans.
[2:18] Speaker 2: Rat hike is looking all but certain when the RBA
[2:21] Speaker 2: delivers its first decision of the year tomorrow.
[2:23] Speaker 3: Wegg each holders are bracing themselves with the Reserve Bank
[2:26] Speaker 3: expected to raise interest rates tomorrow.
[2:29] Speaker 1: Now traditionally I could take you Uphill and dan Dale
[2:32] Speaker 1: through an awful lot of information about why this is
[2:35] Speaker 1: taking place. But you know the reality that inflation is
[2:39] Speaker 1: now out of control. It is back to closer to
[2:42] Speaker 1: four percent than it is three percent, and the Reserve
[2:44] Speaker 1: Bank wants it between two and three percent. Literally twelve
[2:47] Speaker 1: months ago was when the first of the interest rate
[2:50] Speaker 1: cuts took place in twenty twenty five. It helped secure
[2:54] Speaker 1: the re election of the Labor government. But the Treasurer
[2:58] Speaker 1: is of course going to have to find away to
[3:01] Speaker 1: well accept the blame, although Abby See's reporting this evening
[3:05] Speaker 1: that he has rejected any responsibility for high inflation. But
[3:10] Speaker 1: with no further ado and no further song and dance,
[3:13] Speaker 1: I just want to point you to Jim Charmers in
[3:15] Speaker 1: twenty twenty two when he was in opposition and rates
[3:19] Speaker 1: went up once, they went up a further twelve times
[3:24] Speaker 1: after he became Treasurer, and they will go up for
[3:27] Speaker 1: the thirteenth time probably tomorrow. Pay attention to what Jim
[3:31] Speaker 1: Charmers used to say when interest rates go up.
[3:35] Speaker 4: This is a full blown cost of living crisis on
[3:38] Speaker 4: Scott Morrison's watch, and now interest rate rises are about
[3:42] Speaker 4: to be part of the paint. Now this Prime Minister
[3:47] Speaker 4: has an excuse for everything and a plan for nothing.
[3:51] Speaker 1: Well, of course, the plan of the Labor Party when
[3:53] Speaker 1: they were making those statements was, and I quote from
[3:56] Speaker 1: the Prime Minister and the Labor Party that a Labor
[3:59] Speaker 1: government will lower the cost of living. And we know
[4:03] Speaker 1: that that is not true, that that has not happened
[4:06] Speaker 1: in virtually any way, shape or form. And to drive
[4:09] Speaker 1: the point home, while tomorrow the Federal Parliament will vote
[4:12] Speaker 1: on freezing the Federal government taxes on beer on spirits,
[4:19] Speaker 1: the taxes will continue to increase. In fact, just this week,
[4:26] Speaker 1: spirit taxes have now hit one hundred and eight dollars
[4:29] Speaker 1: a liter and this means, according to these spirits and
[4:31] Speaker 1: cocktails people of Australia imagine having that job. The latest
[4:35] Speaker 1: rise will mean thirty two dollars of a standard seven
[4:38] Speaker 1: hundred mill bottle of gin or whiskey is now tax
[4:42] Speaker 1: going straight to the government. And while the government will
[4:46] Speaker 1: want praise on the day when interest rates will potentially
[4:50] Speaker 1: increase tomorrow, you should also know that they have increased
[4:54] Speaker 1: taxes just in the past couple of days on petrol.
[4:58] Speaker 1: And if you wanted to know why Pauline Hansen is surging.
[5:01] Speaker 1: It's because she is the only major political leader who
[5:04] Speaker 1: isn't just noticing this but making noise about it. Tonight,
[5:09] Speaker 1: the Flavor.
[5:10] Speaker 5: Party they are going to increase fuel excites shorrow.
[5:13] Speaker 1: It's going up to.
[5:14] Speaker 5: Fifty two point six cents lesion plus gst's the first.
[5:19] Speaker 1: Full of the year.
[5:19] Speaker 5: During some one that's happening later in the year.
[5:22] Speaker 1: Don't forget that it is now more than half of
[5:27] Speaker 1: every dollar that you spend per lita on petrol is
[5:33] Speaker 1: now tax You go to the Australian Taxation Office website
[5:36] Speaker 1: and it will show you that now fifty two point
[5:39] Speaker 1: six cents of every single lita of petrol that you buy,
[5:45] Speaker 1: every single time you buy petrol, fifty two point six
[5:51] Speaker 1: cents per liter goes to the government, who tomorrow will
[5:56] Speaker 1: try to pretend that they care about cost of living
[5:59] Speaker 1: if interest rates hit the thirteenth rise on their watch.
[6:02] Speaker 1: You saw their outrage and how personal the cost of
[6:05] Speaker 1: living situation was and was all to blame off one
[6:08] Speaker 1: interest rate rise under the previous government, an increase in
[6:12] Speaker 1: petrol and increase in spirits, and a whole lot of
[6:15] Speaker 1: other taxes which means this government is getting more tax
[6:17] Speaker 1: than any government ever before, but this government is spending
[6:20] Speaker 1: more money than any government ever before, so much so
[6:23] Speaker 1: that we will have not one, not five, but ten
[6:26] Speaker 1: federal budget deficits. Each one of those be it ten billion,
[6:30] Speaker 1: twenty billion, twenty five fifty billion, It gets added to
[6:34] Speaker 1: the already almost one trillion dollars in government debt. That means,
[6:39] Speaker 1: of course, that the priority of paying off the credit
[6:44] Speaker 1: card goes from the tenth most important thing that happens
[6:48] Speaker 1: in the budget to slightly but surely the ninth, the seventh,
[6:51] Speaker 1: the sixth, and in the case of places like Victoria
[6:55] Speaker 1: that believe you can ring up debt forever, it ends
[6:58] Speaker 1: up going into the top five of all things government does.
[7:03] Speaker 1: So spare me your care for cost of living, Prime Minister,
[7:07] Speaker 1: spare me your sympathy to the homeowners and mortgage owners
[7:12] Speaker 1: of Australia. Tomorrow, Treasurer, it's all got worse, way worse
[7:16] Speaker 1: on your watch now, as you know, the coalition in again,
[7:22] Speaker 1: out again. Hokey pokey, David little proud he survives as
[7:25] Speaker 1: the leader. You've heard it all a million times by now.
[7:27] Speaker 1: Meeting happened this evening between Susan Lee and David Little Proud.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Expectations are that this thing is going to get back together.
[7:35] Speaker 1: But gee, some people have said some things in just
[7:37] Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks that makes it hard to
[7:40] Speaker 1: believe it is going to be anything but a rough ride.
[7:42] Speaker 1: Even if everyone is back in the tent. You think
[7:46] Speaker 1: you can just win as the Liberal Party.
[7:48] Speaker 5: Do you.
[7:50] Speaker 6: It's happened before Andrew.
[7:51] Speaker 4: If we go to the next elections as a Liberal
[7:54] Speaker 4: Party and they go as a National party, then that's okay.
[7:58] Speaker 1: Our job as an opposition here is not to.
[8:02] Speaker 7: Rotate shares in the shadow cabinet or the shadow ministry.
[8:04] Speaker 1: It's to hold the Labor government to account.
[8:07] Speaker 2: We're gone, let me remove the ambiguity.
[8:10] Speaker 6: We've gone.
[8:11] Speaker 1: It was untenable.
[8:12] Speaker 2: Ohthough our party room has made it very clear we
[8:14] Speaker 2: cannot be part of a shadow ministry under Susan Lee.
[8:18] Speaker 1: So the expectation is that by question time tomorrow, when
[8:22] Speaker 1: everyone's back in the Parliament and the government again will
[8:24] Speaker 1: be patting itself on the back, despite the fact that
[8:26] Speaker 1: halfway through question time tomorrow at two thirty Cambra time,
[8:30] Speaker 1: the Preserve Bank will make its decision again. Fingers cross
[8:32] Speaker 1: it is not an increase in interest rates, but most
[8:34] Speaker 1: likely will be most likely will end up being thousands
[8:38] Speaker 1: of dollars more for people paying off mortgages of the
[8:41] Speaker 1: average which is about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
[8:43] Speaker 1: a year or a median or one point five or
[8:47] Speaker 1: even more depending on how much people have borrowed. That
[8:50] Speaker 1: should be the focus, but the internal wranglings of the
[8:52] Speaker 1: coalition will it remains the focus. Where Yes, the time
[8:57] Speaker 1: that Parliament has not been sitting since the hate laws
[9:01] Speaker 1: were controversially passed a couple of weeks ago means well,
[9:04] Speaker 1: technically there's been no change in the Parliament and technically
[9:07] Speaker 1: it'll all be okay by tomorrow, but there's been a
[9:10] Speaker 1: lot of damage that has been done. How permanent. We'll
[9:12] Speaker 1: discuss it among others with Matt Canavan a little bit
[9:17] Speaker 1: later in the program. No looks no lefties tonight. We'll
[9:19] Speaker 1: also have just Enter Price on the show put on
[9:21] Speaker 1: that with the breaking news of Corybernardi. It's a big
[9:24] Speaker 1: and busy show, James Morrow, as well as for Kevin Hogan.
[9:27] Speaker 1: He is the deputy leader of the National Party. He
[9:29] Speaker 1: spoke to the ABC and it looks like a deal
[9:31] Speaker 1: is imminent.
[9:33] Speaker 3: I think that's probably unlikely. I mean, we've had a
[9:35] Speaker 3: preliminary chat tonight. We've got things to discuss. We're going
[9:39] Speaker 3: to take some ideas back to our party room and
[9:40] Speaker 3: have a chat about them.
[9:42] Speaker 1: But look again, tonight was a.
[9:43] Speaker 3: Really good, civil, cooperative and friendly chat.
[9:48] Speaker 1: So let us get to the surging force that is
[9:50] Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson. The story gets better for One Nation each
[9:54] Speaker 1: and every night, not just with this breaking news. The
[9:56] Speaker 1: a legendary figure of conservative politics is willing to re
[9:59] Speaker 1: enter and to lead the charge at the state level.
[10:02] Speaker 1: Cory Bernardi again on the show tomorrow night. Here the
[10:05] Speaker 1: only interview who'll be doing will be with us tomorrow night.
[10:07] Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. But of course we know that
[10:11] Speaker 1: one of the great surges that have happened in the
[10:13] Speaker 1: polls has been One Nation with my age group, people
[10:17] Speaker 1: that are gen X, the people who have just had
[10:20] Speaker 1: enough of the way that the system has worked to
[10:22] Speaker 1: this point. Thirty five percent of gen X people now
[10:27] Speaker 1: so they're going to vote One Nation if there was
[10:29] Speaker 1: an election anytime soon, just in front of the Labor Party.
[10:32] Speaker 1: And it is even of course with baby boomers. To
[10:35] Speaker 1: explain the specific phenomenon of gen X voters and gen
[10:38] Speaker 1: X voters the people between the ages of forty six
[10:41] Speaker 1: and sixty one, or a little more easily to understand,
[10:44] Speaker 1: say forty five to sixty. My dear friend Peter Creedlin
[10:48] Speaker 1: was talking to cos Samaris, the man from Redbridge who
[10:51] Speaker 1: did the poll that has shocked the nation.
[10:54] Speaker 8: One Nation is the largest party for gen X in
[10:56] Speaker 8: this country right now, it's thirty five percent.
[10:57] Speaker 1: But it's classic gen X two right. So they anti
[11:00] Speaker 1: establishment to a certain extent.
[11:02] Speaker 8: Most of them are non university educated, working class conservatives,
[11:07] Speaker 8: the sort of voters will sive flock into reform to
[11:09] Speaker 8: Trump to other conservative parties in Europe. They have lived
[11:16] Speaker 8: a life where they've worked long hours, they've worked hard,
[11:20] Speaker 8: and they've experienced a substantial decline in living standards.
[11:24] Speaker 1: We find these.
[11:25] Speaker 8: Individuals are the most well the termoil uses. They are
[11:29] Speaker 8: one Nation's pratroring guard. They are absolutely determined to send
[11:34] Speaker 8: a signal to camera.
[11:36] Speaker 1: No I agree. I think that in the same way
[11:38] Speaker 1: that people who may well have voted republic in their
[11:40] Speaker 1: whole life frankly became Trumpers, the same is about to happen,
[11:43] Speaker 1: if not has already happened when it comes to one nation. Now,
[11:46] Speaker 1: of course I need to point out here the reality
[11:49] Speaker 1: is that the set right and right wing side of
[11:52] Speaker 1: Australian politics, that pie has not grown since the election.
[11:55] Speaker 1: It is still fifty five to forty five with fifty
[11:57] Speaker 1: five percent of the country being the left or the
[12:00] Speaker 1: far left. Center right and the right is still at
[12:04] Speaker 1: forty five percent. So fifty five percent, I should say
[12:07] Speaker 1: for Labor and the anyone but Labor on the center
[12:11] Speaker 1: right is now sitting at forty five percent. But to
[12:13] Speaker 1: give you an idea about just how significant the generation
[12:17] Speaker 1: gap is is, I did some research today and I
[12:19] Speaker 1: went had to look at the Australian Electric Commission and
[12:22] Speaker 1: actually had to look at the electoral role. These are
[12:24] Speaker 1: the number of people per those demographics and how it
[12:27] Speaker 1: starts to stack up. People basically over the age of
[12:31] Speaker 1: forty five could well be about to deliver an earthquake
[12:34] Speaker 1: on Australian politics. Three point one million people are between
[12:37] Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty nine. Their number one pick is the
[12:40] Speaker 1: Labor Party at thirty four, the Greens at twenty six.
[12:43] Speaker 1: For millennials who are between the ages of thirty and
[12:45] Speaker 1: forty five, there are four point six million registered voters.
[12:49] Speaker 1: In that group, they currently back Labor thirty three, to
[12:52] Speaker 1: the Greens seventeen and the Liberal Party at twenty three.
[12:57] Speaker 1: Gen X one nation, and baby boomers with everyone over
[13:01] Speaker 1: the age of sixty two included. Above that number of
[13:04] Speaker 1: eighty you are talking about there what nine to ten
[13:07] Speaker 1: million people, So there is a very significant number of people.
[13:11] Speaker 1: Now you can split the electoral role fifty to fifty,
[13:14] Speaker 1: as in over fifty under fifty. If you start to
[13:16] Speaker 1: move it a little bit further down to fit that
[13:18] Speaker 1: gen X, that ends up being the majority of voters
[13:21] Speaker 1: are now Gen X and above. The majority of those
[13:27] Speaker 1: voters claim in polling right now that they want to
[13:30] Speaker 1: vote for one nation now when part of one of
[13:33] Speaker 1: the reasons why they want to vote for one nation
[13:35] Speaker 1: is because they are tired of being told to compromise.
[13:39] Speaker 1: They have to compromise in almost every other area of
[13:41] Speaker 1: their life, and they have played good when it comes
[13:45] Speaker 1: to compromising about how they vote. We have seen it
[13:49] Speaker 1: at multiple elections and certainly at the last election when
[13:51] Speaker 1: it comes to the Upper House, and that whether the
[13:55] Speaker 1: message is imperfect or not, whether the messengers are imperfect
[13:58] Speaker 1: or not, the nation is closer to their central sense
[14:03] Speaker 1: of self, their central sense of a country, and about
[14:07] Speaker 1: the direction in which it needs to move. These people,
[14:11] Speaker 1: in my view, are not coming back. In my view,
[14:15] Speaker 1: there might be some numbers somewhere, but essentially, as younger
[14:20] Speaker 1: generations made their choices on the Greens, this generation and
[14:24] Speaker 1: older voters are making their split. This is really difficult
[14:28] Speaker 1: and diabolical news for the alternative party of government to
[14:32] Speaker 1: this point, which has been the Liberal Party in coalition
[14:35] Speaker 1: with the National Party, or even if the Liberals were
[14:38] Speaker 1: out on their own and essentially became bigger versions of
[14:41] Speaker 1: the Teals, the National Party stayed on its own and
[14:44] Speaker 1: wanted to say that it was already a version of
[14:46] Speaker 1: one nation inside the Parliament. There are big challenges, and
[14:50] Speaker 1: I don't know that there are some people inside liberal
[14:52] Speaker 1: world who even know how big the problem is, how
[14:54] Speaker 1: permanent the problem is. I agree with Andrew Bolt a
[14:57] Speaker 1: little bit earlier this evening when he observes about just
[15:00] Speaker 1: permanent this may be. I agree with Peter Kredlin when
[15:03] Speaker 1: she speaks earlier about the need for clarity inside the
[15:06] Speaker 1: Liberal Party. All of this is fascinating to watch, and
[15:09] Speaker 1: all of this has been happening before our own eyes.
[15:13] Speaker 1: One of the reasons I think gen X, by the way,
[15:15] Speaker 1: has broken up with the Libs, but more importantly has
[15:18] Speaker 1: embraced Pauline Hansen yes, his immigration. Yes, is the fact
[15:22] Speaker 1: that for thirty years she's lived a real life. This
[15:24] Speaker 1: is a woman who's been in and out of Parliament
[15:25] Speaker 1: and in and out of jail because of people who
[15:29] Speaker 1: wanted to keep her out of parliament. Well, one of
[15:32] Speaker 1: the ways that gen X has always communicated is to
[15:36] Speaker 1: take the piss out of things. Now, you can do
[15:39] Speaker 1: that with the Simpsons, you can do that with South Park,
[15:41] Speaker 1: you can do that with the movie around the War
[15:43] Speaker 1: on Terror, which of course was Team America World Police.
[15:46] Speaker 1: Or in terms of Australia, it's the cartoons, the cartoons
[15:49] Speaker 1: which you've been going for years, which are fabulous. And
[15:52] Speaker 1: the brand new movie, which is a super progressive movie
[15:55] Speaker 1: or one word, superprogressive movie. Dot com is becoming a hit.
[16:00] Speaker 1: I know plenty of my mates who have decided to
[16:03] Speaker 1: pay the fifteen bucks to sit down watch it as
[16:05] Speaker 1: a group and giggle away even at times to be
[16:08] Speaker 1: shocked by just how far the movie goes. But yes,
[16:11] Speaker 1: the movie goes that far. So this is not overnight,
[16:16] Speaker 1: which means it cannot be reversed overnight. The ability to
[16:19] Speaker 1: laugh at everyone is something that gen X loves, has
[16:24] Speaker 1: always loved. I repeat from The Simpsons to South Park
[16:28] Speaker 1: to the Pauline Hansen cartoons. This is one of the
[16:30] Speaker 1: ways that gen X has always communicated and always given
[16:34] Speaker 1: the middle finger. The people who have made this brilliant
[16:38] Speaker 1: film are a production company called step Mates. Mark Robinson,
[16:43] Speaker 1: you see often with my dear friend Chris Kenny, is
[16:46] Speaker 1: a really funny and really clever bloke. He is surrounded
[16:48] Speaker 1: by very talented people. But these are people who are creatives.
[16:53] Speaker 1: And guess what the price of their creativity is to
[16:56] Speaker 1: some of the absolute nutters that live in Melbourne. They
[17:02] Speaker 1: attack their office today, swastika and all for obvious reasons.
[17:06] Speaker 1: We blur that out. But Nazis are here and step
[17:09] Speaker 1: Mates love Nazis. That's the ohso tolerant left when somebody
[17:15] Speaker 1: pokes quite correctly fun at them. If you would like
[17:20] Speaker 1: to support Paul Enhansson, support one Nation, and support the
[17:23] Speaker 1: people who have made this cartoon, get the movie a
[17:28] Speaker 1: superprogressivemovie dot com a superprogressivemovie dot Com. You can even
[17:33] Speaker 1: gift it to a mate if they're a little too
[17:35] Speaker 1: tight to pay for it. Now, speaking about people, aren't
[17:40] Speaker 1: that type when it comes to their cash. We know
[17:42] Speaker 1: that elections are not cheap. They cost millions of dollars,
[17:46] Speaker 1: but also they affect billions and may probably trillions of
[17:49] Speaker 1: dollars worth of decisions that happen over the coming three
[17:52] Speaker 1: years of an election. We learned today via the Australian
[17:56] Speaker 1: Electoral Commission about just how much money third part groups
[18:01] Speaker 1: spent at the last federal election. Now this could be
[18:07] Speaker 1: third party groups like private companies owned by Clive Palmer,
[18:11] Speaker 1: who ended up, of course funding so much of the
[18:13] Speaker 1: trumpet patriots, or so called community organizations like Climate two
[18:17] Speaker 1: hundred who ended up funding the teals. We learned today
[18:21] Speaker 1: that Mineralogy, Clive Palmer's company, of which he has every
[18:24] Speaker 1: right to do whatever he wants with its cash, spent
[18:26] Speaker 1: fifty two million dollars at the federal election. Advance Australia
[18:30] Speaker 1: spent ten million dollars at the election. Climate two hundred
[18:34] Speaker 1: spent four million dollars, and so on and so on.
[18:39] Speaker 1: So before you start to read the headlines that will
[18:41] Speaker 1: inevitably start to say that all of this money is
[18:44] Speaker 1: just heavily weighted in favor of the quote unquote right wing,
[18:47] Speaker 1: with the exception of Trumpeter Patriots, which of course did
[18:50] Speaker 1: not result in any members being elected. The difference between
[18:54] Speaker 1: all of the people on that list and the Union
[18:57] Speaker 1: Movement is that the Union Movement is the Labor Party.
[19:02] Speaker 1: And I don't just spend that traditionally, I mean literally,
[19:05] Speaker 1: in their constitution, their donor has fifty percent of the
[19:10] Speaker 1: say in the policy platform, who will be candidates, who
[19:16] Speaker 1: makes up the ministry. None of those private donors that
[19:20] Speaker 1: you will read about about money in politics have any
[19:23] Speaker 1: such power. They do not have representatives in the Parliament
[19:29] Speaker 1: to do their bidding and to factionally hold in who
[19:33] Speaker 1: gets to be a minister or not. So it is
[19:37] Speaker 1: extraordinary to me that the laws of this country that
[19:41] Speaker 1: have already been debated before the High Court suggest that
[19:44] Speaker 1: unions that are already fifty percent of the Labor Party
[19:48] Speaker 1: also get to spend money as if they weren't part
[19:51] Speaker 1: of the Labor Party at all. And at this election
[19:54] Speaker 1: they spent seventeen million dollars. That puts them seven minute
[20:00] Speaker 1: tien dollars in front of Advanced Australia. But once you
[20:03] Speaker 1: start to put together seventeen minion from the unions, four
[20:08] Speaker 1: minion from Climate two hundred and so on and so on.
[20:11] Speaker 1: It is the left of Parliament that has been backed
[20:13] Speaker 1: in by a lot more money than the so called
[20:16] Speaker 1: right and there is a devil in the detail that
[20:20] Speaker 1: deserves a bit more attention. There probably will be a
[20:23] Speaker 1: question about this at some point in the next two
[20:26] Speaker 1: weeks in Federal Parliament. And it's to do with the CFMEU.
[20:31] Speaker 1: Now you know of the scandals of the CFMEU, You
[20:34] Speaker 1: know of the claims about how their building sites have worked,
[20:39] Speaker 1: not worked, and a whole lot of other things that
[20:42] Speaker 1: certainly the good people of sixty Minutes, and specifically the
[20:45] Speaker 1: reporter of Nick Mackenzie, has brought to everyone's attention in
[20:48] Speaker 1: not one, not two, but three versions of the big
[20:50] Speaker 1: build stories that he has done. As a result, the
[20:54] Speaker 1: Labour Party has tried to say it has nothing to
[20:56] Speaker 1: do with the CFMEU. Don't quote me, quote him.
[21:02] Speaker 7: I announced that we would be expelling John Seca from
[21:05] Speaker 7: the Labor Party because his values weren't appropriate, and we
[21:13] Speaker 7: have taken this strong action against the CFMU. The administrators
[21:19] Speaker 7: have been put in place. That means that there won't
[21:22] Speaker 7: be donations. That's not our concern.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Tim Wilson is the shadow Minister with responsibility of keeping
[21:30] Speaker 1: an eye on some of this stuff and he has
[21:32] Speaker 1: done excellent work. He's best on ground for the opposition
[21:34] Speaker 1: tonight because he put out the following announcement today after
[21:39] Speaker 1: links to organized crime were revealed, the Prime Minister and
[21:42] Speaker 1: Premier of Western Australia claimed they wouldn't take CFMU cartel kickbacks,
[21:47] Speaker 1: but today it has been confirmed that WA Labor took
[21:49] Speaker 1: twenty six eight hundred dollars from the Construction Division. Shadow
[21:55] Speaker 1: Minister for Industrial Relations Tim Wilson said that the AEC's
[21:58] Speaker 1: disclosure returns reveal the dependence of the labor government on
[22:02] Speaker 1: union bosses and that's why the Prime Minister always make
[22:05] Speaker 1: sure that they are the first to benefit from government policy.
[22:08] Speaker 1: So you heard the Prime Minister, nothing to do with
[22:10] Speaker 1: the officials, nothing to do with the union, nothing to
[22:12] Speaker 1: do with the cash. Well, twenty six eight hundred dollars
[22:15] Speaker 1: has gone to the Western Australian Labor Party what it
[22:17] Speaker 1: doesn't spend on its own stamp campaigns and of course
[22:20] Speaker 1: can kick up to federal efforts, which is why there's
[22:23] Speaker 1: a chance you're going to hear about this a lot
[22:25] Speaker 1: more in the next couple of days, well under Tim Wilson.
[22:28] Speaker 1: But of course is their rolling coverage once this news
[22:32] Speaker 1: was made public today, Well, no tumbleweeds. Why because, of
[22:36] Speaker 1: course people are shooting themselves metaphorically in the feet, the guts,
[22:40] Speaker 1: the heart, the head. When it comes to the coalition,
[22:44] Speaker 1: there is plenty of fodder from how much it costs
[22:47] Speaker 1: people to pay off their own houses, to how much
[22:48] Speaker 1: it costs to fill up your own car to be
[22:51] Speaker 1: able to drop the kids off at school, to how
[22:54] Speaker 1: much it even costs to have a drink, But of
[22:58] Speaker 1: course none of that gets talked about where the internal
[23:00] Speaker 1: firing squad is using bazookas at the moment to Victorian
[23:06] Speaker 1: politics now, and we know the election will be up
[23:09] Speaker 1: towards the end of the year. Before that South Australia,
[23:11] Speaker 1: where the breaking news tonight is Corey Bernardi on his
[23:13] Speaker 1: way to One Nation to lead their party in the
[23:17] Speaker 1: South Australian election. But in Victoria, of course it is
[23:19] Speaker 1: Jess Wilson versus Justiner Allen. Now to center, Allen is
[23:24] Speaker 1: doing the good old fashion labor playbook, which is essentially
[23:26] Speaker 1: starting the election campaign now for an election which I
[23:29] Speaker 1: think is in November. Jess Wilson will no doubt follow
[23:32] Speaker 1: the same Liberal Party tradition of waiting until the official
[23:35] Speaker 1: campaign starts thirty three days out and they'll all be
[23:37] Speaker 1: surprised about geez, how did this end up going the
[23:39] Speaker 1: way that it does? Here is to center Allen today
[23:42] Speaker 1: basically going into full election mode with the full power
[23:46] Speaker 1: of the state government to promise whatever the hell they
[23:48] Speaker 1: want to save their ass.
[23:50] Speaker 9: We are a labor government with new solutions to make
[23:53] Speaker 9: life easier, more safer, and more affordable. And this year
[23:58] Speaker 9: our job as a strong United Labor team isn't just
[24:01] Speaker 9: to talk about what we've already delivered. It's to drive
[24:05] Speaker 9: that next wave of change that we have made possible.
[24:09] Speaker 1: But something that people find frustrating, regardless of whether it's
[24:12] Speaker 1: Liberal labor, whether it is state or federal politics, which
[24:14] Speaker 1: is that they're going to talk about billions of dollars
[24:17] Speaker 1: for this in health and billions of dollars for this
[24:18] Speaker 1: in education. Could you just fix the freaking potholes. I'm
[24:23] Speaker 1: sick of how much tax we all pay for how
[24:26] Speaker 1: garbage our roads are, especially when the federal government is
[24:29] Speaker 1: of course our more than half of every dollar that
[24:33] Speaker 1: you spend for a liter of petrol fifty two cents
[24:37] Speaker 1: per litera is now tax. Is this supposed to fix
[24:41] Speaker 1: this stuff? Well, the Herald Sun has been focused on
[24:44] Speaker 1: potholes for some time, and rightly so. It's the little stuff.
[24:47] Speaker 1: But if you can't fix the little stuff, then who's
[24:49] Speaker 1: going to believe anything made is going to change. Dollar
[24:53] Speaker 1: obtained by the Herald Sun shows that there was an
[24:54] Speaker 1: eight percent increase statewide in the amount of potholes on
[24:57] Speaker 1: Victorian roads in twenty twenty five compare the previous year.
[25:01] Speaker 1: The total number of potholes reported increase from five hundred
[25:04] Speaker 1: and eighty five to now twelve five hundred and seventy one,
[25:08] Speaker 1: to equivalent of an extra thirty four a day. Now. Again,
[25:14] Speaker 1: no one's going to run election by promising to fix
[25:16] Speaker 1: the potholes, but gee, wouldn't it be great if somebody
[25:18] Speaker 1: actually did. For her part, Jess Wilson today was trying
[25:25] Speaker 1: to save her version of the Liberal Party from one nation.
[25:30] Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about it in terms of
[25:31] Speaker 1: the polls. I'm talking about it in terms of where
[25:34] Speaker 1: is she going to go and how does she immediately
[25:36] Speaker 1: get wedged by the Labor Party who will try to
[25:38] Speaker 1: pretend that somehow she is one nation curious when we
[25:41] Speaker 1: all know that she is of the progressive side of
[25:45] Speaker 1: the Liberal Party. There is nothing one nation about Jess Wilson.
[25:50] Speaker 1: But she's had to pull out of an event. Why
[25:52] Speaker 1: because Barnaby Joyce is going to be there. Why because
[25:55] Speaker 1: jessinter Allen gets to do crap like this and expect
[25:58] Speaker 1: this as the type of politics from a government that
[26:01] Speaker 1: demands formal years to screw Victoria.
[26:05] Speaker 9: She shouldn't have said yes in the first place to
[26:07] Speaker 9: the invitation when you just can't take this liberal outfit,
[26:10] Speaker 9: this liberal leader seriously, if your first instinct is to
[26:14] Speaker 9: rush off to a misinformation convention headlined by Barnaby Joyce
[26:18] Speaker 9: and one Nation, what does that say to the rest
[26:20] Speaker 9: of Victorian's.
[26:22] Speaker 1: Ah, but the Greens are okay you no preferences at
[26:24] Speaker 1: all when it comes to this is so boring, but
[26:28] Speaker 1: it is going to be hammerhammer Hammer albo one twenty
[26:31] Speaker 1: twenty two on a lie that cost of living would
[26:34] Speaker 1: be better under his government. He won twenty twenty five
[26:37] Speaker 1: on a lie that Medicare was under threat, and all
[26:40] Speaker 1: the rest of the UGA booger. Labor is very good
[26:42] Speaker 1: at this because it works. It is up to the
[26:46] Speaker 1: Libs to have a game, to be able to fight
[26:48] Speaker 1: back to not expect the role of friends in the
[26:52] Speaker 1: media to do the fighting for them. No, get off
[26:54] Speaker 1: your ass and fight it yourself. Push back hard on
[26:57] Speaker 1: social media, pushback hard on interviews, and push back hard
[27:03] Speaker 1: on every time. The nutters of the Greens have been
[27:06] Speaker 1: the people who have voted for the laws that have
[27:10] Speaker 1: made Victoria a worse place, not just under Andrews, but
[27:13] Speaker 1: under her reign as well. Watch this space, I think
[27:18] Speaker 1: it might be a little bit of wishful thinking. Meantime,
[27:22] Speaker 1: I like to tell you about the politicians who, of
[27:24] Speaker 1: course you already pay for to be the politicians, and
[27:26] Speaker 1: of course you know we pay their staffers to create
[27:29] Speaker 1: a bit of showbiz for ugly people, and by that
[27:31] Speaker 1: I mean social media videos. Here's a Labor MP with
[27:36] Speaker 1: some sexual advice.
[27:39] Speaker 3: Have you been told that if you're not waking up
[27:41] Speaker 3: with an erection, you're not a real man?
[27:44] Speaker 2: If someone online is telling you this, this is not
[27:47] Speaker 2: health advice.
[27:48] Speaker 10: It's pure marketing and it is dangerous.
[27:52] Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness, this is what I taxpayer money is
[27:54] Speaker 1: spent on her to be in Parliament and the staffer
[27:56] Speaker 1: to film her to react to ads on the internet.
[28:01] Speaker 1: Literally politicians talking about pop ups. That's what they're spending
[28:04] Speaker 1: their time on today. As for Tony Burke, well enjoy
[28:07] Speaker 1: this piece of cinema. What is a point of order?
[28:11] Speaker 11: A point of order is two things. One, it's where
[28:15] Speaker 11: someone genuinely thinks the procedure of parliament's not being followed.
[28:18] Speaker 11: If someone thinks the procedure is not being followed, then
[28:21] Speaker 11: they'll raise a point of order. And then the speaker,
[28:23] Speaker 11: the person in the giant chair, is basically the referee.
[28:27] Speaker 1: Do you remember when you learned that either in school
[28:29] Speaker 1: or at a school excursion to Canberra? And no, no,
[28:32] Speaker 1: Now we need to treat all of the adults watching
[28:35] Speaker 1: like they're the kids in year six who are learning
[28:37] Speaker 1: how a bill becomes a law. And of course the
[28:40] Speaker 1: teals are in on all of this. This one from
[28:42] Speaker 1: k Cheney in Western Australia. Welcome back to Parliament for
[28:46] Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.
[28:47] Speaker 9: Here are five things that I'll be working on this year.
[28:50] Speaker 9: Number one, the fight for a safe climate and clean
[28:53] Speaker 9: environment is far from over.
[28:55] Speaker 1: Then we're going to win the war together speaking of
[28:58] Speaker 1: apparently garden spring. Yeah, your garden sprinkler is part of
[29:02] Speaker 1: the problem when it comes to climate change. We'll discuss that.
[29:05] Speaker 1: No sooks, no lefties, Matt Canavan, just enterprise, James Morrow.
[29:08] Speaker 1: You're in the right place because you're watching us more
[29:11] Speaker 1: in a second, Oh your love the tonight show, aren't you.
[29:17] Speaker 1: No sooks, no lefties, looking forward to this conversation now
[29:20] Speaker 1: sending in a Matt Canavan of course joins us right now,
[29:23] Speaker 1: normally Senator from Queensland. But Jeezie Doves speaking in Canberra.
[29:26] Speaker 1: You can just see how happy he is each and
[29:27] Speaker 1: every day to turn up there. None other than the
[29:30] Speaker 1: great James Morrow. Always just just a dream factory at
[29:36] Speaker 1: the moment, Thank you very much for coming home. But
[29:38] Speaker 1: I always do appreciate And of course James Morrow, who
[29:39] Speaker 1: I interrupt your shot? Of course you can read him
[29:41] Speaker 1: in the Daily Telegraph, see him here on Sky News
[29:44] Speaker 1: US report on Fridays, Outsiders on Sundays. Okay. Corey Benardi
[29:48] Speaker 1: will be formally announced tomorrow, but it is confirmed tonight
[29:51] Speaker 1: that he is going to be running for One Nation.
[29:52] Speaker 1: He'll be doing it in the South Australian election. He'll
[29:54] Speaker 1: be doing so for running as a state wide office,
[29:57] Speaker 1: which is the upper House. But he'll be the South
[29:59] Speaker 1: Australian leader of One Nation. That'll all be confirmed tomorrow.
[30:02] Speaker 1: He's here tomorrow night for conversation. Matt. I'll go first
[30:05] Speaker 1: to you. What does it say that a person like
[30:07] Speaker 1: a Cory Bernardi doesn't want to get back in to
[30:10] Speaker 1: politics via the one who had brung him in the past,
[30:13] Speaker 1: but instead is now planning to forge into state politics
[30:17] Speaker 1: with One Nation.
[30:20] Speaker 10: Well, it's old news, Paul, with all respect a good
[30:25] Speaker 10: friend of mine Corey Benardi, and I account Corey as
[30:27] Speaker 10: a good mate. This is not quite the announcement that
[30:30] Speaker 10: it was made out to be. There was talk of
[30:33] Speaker 10: a defection from here in Parliament. Barnaby was giving giving
[30:38] Speaker 10: some credit to that this morning, that it could be
[30:40] Speaker 10: a Nationals Party member. I mean, Corey Bernardi left the
[30:42] Speaker 10: Liberal Party in twenty seventeen. He left the party eighty
[30:45] Speaker 10: years ago, so it's pretty old news. So it's harder
[30:48] Speaker 10: the defection. He'd already left the Liberal Party and that
[30:50] Speaker 10: was a shame back then, but we went on to
[30:53] Speaker 10: win the twenty nineteen election without Corey, and look, I'd
[30:58] Speaker 10: love to see more people stay with us, join us,
[31:00] Speaker 10: et cetera. But we'll just keep fighting on here because
[31:04] Speaker 10: I do believe that we need to kick this government out.
[31:06] Speaker 10: I don't think one nation is the answer to do that.
[31:09] Speaker 10: I haven't got the record, the team to form a government,
[31:14] Speaker 10: and that's why I'm sticking around here, fighting with an
[31:17] Speaker 10: LMP for a much better future for our country.
[31:19] Speaker 1: I think, technically speaking, he did hand his gun badge
[31:21] Speaker 1: just before a federal election after seventeen. I think he
[31:24] Speaker 1: was twenty two when he rejoined the Libs in order
[31:28] Speaker 1: for that seat to form, he.
[31:30] Speaker 10: Ran in twenty he ran in twenty nineteen. No, that's yeah,
[31:33] Speaker 10: that's right, So that's saying. But when he resigned from
[31:36] Speaker 10: the Senate, he resigned from the Liberal Party back in
[31:38] Speaker 10: twenty seventy. He formed his own party and ran the
[31:40] Speaker 10: twenty nineteen election unsuccessfully. After that election, he handed the
[31:43] Speaker 10: seat back to the Liberal Party.
[31:44] Speaker 1: Correct, correct, All right, there we go, just for the
[31:46] Speaker 1: inevitable Factorick as An asked, all right, James, what does
[31:49] Speaker 1: it say to you again? It's state politics. It's an
[31:50] Speaker 1: upper house in state politics. But it's a pretty well
[31:53] Speaker 1: known person, obviously to our air waves and joining the
[31:56] Speaker 1: team that's surging. Yeah.
[31:58] Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think of a bit with that
[32:00] Speaker 5: on this that this isn't a huge bombshell. We knew
[32:03] Speaker 5: Corey is not part of the LNP team. We knew
[32:05] Speaker 5: that for a long long time. But it's all part
[32:09] Speaker 5: of a much broader narrative here, which is that Conservatives
[32:13] Speaker 5: in Australian politics have for a very long time felt
[32:17] Speaker 5: like they didn't really have a home. I know an
[32:20] Speaker 5: awful lot of people who in the last election could
[32:22] Speaker 5: not give their vote if they had a Liberal running
[32:25] Speaker 5: in their seat. So this is a really more liberal
[32:27] Speaker 5: problem than a national's problem. Although in New South Wales
[32:30] Speaker 5: and that's for another story, they could not in good
[32:33] Speaker 5: conscience give their one to the Liberals, and they gave
[32:36] Speaker 5: it to One Nation, or they gave it to some
[32:37] Speaker 5: other minor party. And what it tells me right now
[32:41] Speaker 5: is all of these moves that were seeing in the polls.
[32:44] Speaker 5: One of the really interesting things that came out of
[32:46] Speaker 5: the Yugo poll is that people on lower incomes are
[32:49] Speaker 5: more likely to be going for One Nation, which tells
[32:51] Speaker 5: me that people who don't feel like the system is
[32:55] Speaker 5: working for them are really, really, really tired of what
[32:58] Speaker 5: they see not incorrectly as uniparty, but also, you know,
[33:02] Speaker 5: I just think on this whole question of this whole thing,
[33:04] Speaker 5: should the Libs get back together with the Nets? You know,
[33:08] Speaker 5: I think it's just disgraceful that we're probably going to
[33:11] Speaker 5: get an interest rate high tomorrow with inflation is higher
[33:14] Speaker 5: than anywhere else in the OECD, I think, and we're
[33:18] Speaker 5: talking about this, I mean, this is just this is
[33:21] Speaker 5: this is pathetic, and this is a failure of the
[33:22] Speaker 5: Liberal Party to not prosecute the case. It's a failure
[33:26] Speaker 5: of the lib not to be able to maintain the
[33:28] Speaker 5: idea of a big tent, and the failure of the
[33:30] Speaker 5: fact that urban based moderates, particularly in New South Wales,
[33:35] Speaker 5: have taken over the party and for years have been
[33:39] Speaker 5: doing everything they could to drive conservatives out of the party.
[33:42] Speaker 5: That we're morgined in that sort of purity rather than
[33:45] Speaker 5: you know, actually fighting labor.
[33:47] Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Matt, which has been put to
[33:49] Speaker 1: many a few times about people trying to work out right,
[33:52] Speaker 1: which is okay, if you're out on your own, then
[33:54] Speaker 1: you can speak more freely. You can be the Chada
[33:57] Speaker 1: minister for this and this and that, and you're able
[34:00] Speaker 1: to basically not have to bend into the inevitable compromises
[34:04] Speaker 1: that happen with the Libs tonight. The conversation is again
[34:07] Speaker 1: that for for organizational reasons, representation in parliament, it all
[34:11] Speaker 1: gets back together. I'm genuinely waxing and waiting about what
[34:16] Speaker 1: is best for people like yourself, because I want people
[34:20] Speaker 1: like yourself to stay in the parliament. Do I want
[34:22] Speaker 1: an opportunity to, if it was a Queensland voter, to
[34:26] Speaker 1: vote one for yourself in the Senator's the top of
[34:29] Speaker 1: a national's ticket versus potentially compromised with a LIB. Do
[34:33] Speaker 1: I want to be able to one for paul en Hansen,
[34:36] Speaker 1: two for you? Abit all of these questions, right, So
[34:40] Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and I'm sure this is
[34:41] Speaker 1: the internal conversation where all right, you know there'll be
[34:43] Speaker 1: a bunch of reasons to get back together tomorrow, But
[34:46] Speaker 1: isn't there a bunch of reasons to stay apart.
[34:50] Speaker 6: Come to Queensland? Paul I spiritual.
[34:54] Speaker 1: The little messages I'd love to.
[35:00] Speaker 10: I know you just I don't know if the top
[35:02] Speaker 10: of your list is so you can vote from Matt
[35:03] Speaker 10: cannab and I think it might be here the surface
[35:06] Speaker 10: paradise surf.
[35:13] Speaker 6: Anyway, anyway, back to topic.
[35:15] Speaker 10: But look, look, Paul, my week's not going to be
[35:18] Speaker 10: much different regardless of whether we do get back together
[35:20] Speaker 10: or not.
[35:21] Speaker 6: I think we should be in coalition with the Colors.
[35:24] Speaker 6: I don't think we should split up.
[35:25] Speaker 10: But I'm not wasting a lot of time over it
[35:26] Speaker 10: because it doesn't change what I can do as a
[35:28] Speaker 10: Senator of for Queensland this week for you. And so
[35:30] Speaker 10: this week I'll be introducing a bill that helps dismantle
[35:34] Speaker 10: the net zero apparatus, which is pushing up energy prices
[35:37] Speaker 10: and contributing to that high inflation result the highest in
[35:41] Speaker 10: the advanced world, as James just mentioned.
[35:44] Speaker 6: So that's what I'll be doing.
[35:44] Speaker 10: I'll be interesting another bill to end the prohibition on
[35:47] Speaker 10: nuclear energy, a crazy approach in this country.
[35:50] Speaker 6: We should get with the times and get rid of that.
[35:52] Speaker 10: And I'll be doing a number of other things in
[35:54] Speaker 10: the Senate as well, which I won't disclose tonight on
[35:56] Speaker 10: the TV.
[35:56] Speaker 6: But I'll be doing my job as a Senator for Queensland.
[35:59] Speaker 6: We've all got that job.
[36:00] Speaker 10: That'll be holding the government to account, fighting on the
[36:03] Speaker 10: issues that matter for people.
[36:05] Speaker 6: That's all we can do. And all this other stuff.
[36:07] Speaker 10: It's a bit above my pay grade and we'll see
[36:09] Speaker 10: what happens.
[36:10] Speaker 1: Find a bit of address up seem to work the
[36:12] Speaker 1: last time it happened. A few people tut tut in
[36:13] Speaker 1: the day. You might not be able to leave home
[36:16] Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, but the numbers seem to
[36:17] Speaker 1: go pretty well. Again, Look, James, the last time I
[36:21] Speaker 1: say about this tonight, because again every show can feel
[36:23] Speaker 1: a full hour on all of this because it is
[36:25] Speaker 1: so difficult. Right, But at the heart of all of this,
[36:27] Speaker 1: there are five million people who've had a Liberal and
[36:29] Speaker 1: the national of the last election, who this time last
[36:31] Speaker 1: year were hoping that there was going to either be
[36:33] Speaker 1: a change of government or the real least the clipping
[36:35] Speaker 1: of the wings. Right, these people's hearts are very heavy,
[36:39] Speaker 1: and we're seeing breaks happen for a whole different bunch
[36:42] Speaker 1: of reasons. Right. I want to focus to be on
[36:44] Speaker 1: a government that is making things worse, that has been
[36:46] Speaker 1: caught out lying multiple multiple times. But it's just not
[36:51] Speaker 1: going to So what if anything starts to change the
[36:55] Speaker 1: conversation for the coalition Because again my colleagues were discussing
[37:00] Speaker 1: and quite rightley on the Aird Is it a new
[37:03] Speaker 1: Lada who gives you a new opportunity or is a
[37:05] Speaker 1: new Leada just the hooda woman on the car that's
[37:08] Speaker 1: in a bit of trouble. Yeah.
[37:10] Speaker 5: Look, I think a new leader is going to have
[37:13] Speaker 5: to be the way that they go, because I just
[37:15] Speaker 5: don't think Susan Lay can stabilize the ship. I know
[37:18] Speaker 5: a lot of people have been saying, look, she's done,
[37:20] Speaker 5: you know, a remarkable job in some ways holding the
[37:23] Speaker 5: whole thing together for so long. But the fact of
[37:26] Speaker 5: the matter is that there have been so many tactical
[37:28] Speaker 5: errors made by this opposition. You know, long before BONDI,
[37:32] Speaker 5: they weren't fighting about what the government was doing wrong,
[37:35] Speaker 5: all the economic things, all the cost of living things,
[37:38] Speaker 5: and then you know, to drag Parliament back, but not
[37:41] Speaker 5: have a plan for what to do once they got there,
[37:43] Speaker 5: to then go along with the rushed hate speech bill
[37:46] Speaker 5: that they got at six or seven in the morning.
[37:48] Speaker 5: You know, I'm sorry, at a certain point, you just
[37:50] Speaker 5: have to say, what's in it for me as a
[37:53] Speaker 5: Conservative to vote for this sort of party. And so
[37:56] Speaker 5: the question is going to be then if they changed leader,
[37:59] Speaker 5: you know, and I'm not sure that Aegis's Taylor would
[38:03] Speaker 5: be ambitious about me. He had a particularly conservative party,
[38:06] Speaker 5: But would he make enough change so that people who
[38:09] Speaker 5: had parked their votes with the pollsters and said well
[38:12] Speaker 5: for the moment in one nation would start to drift back.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, but again part of me just just doesn't think
[38:17] Speaker 1: there's going to be much of a move. We'll all
[38:19] Speaker 1: wait and see. Again. They like people like Matt, and
[38:21] Speaker 1: if those personality politicians can build the personal brand, have
[38:24] Speaker 1: the social media, then maybe they might have results at a
[38:26] Speaker 1: sort of outside of the overall brand. But we'll wait
[38:29] Speaker 1: and see. But again, as Matt says, he's in the
[38:31] Speaker 1: parliament now, it's not about somebody later, watch how he performs,
[38:34] Speaker 1: watch how he fights, and watch who he fights for
[38:37] Speaker 1: two quick ones before we're done. Did you see the
[38:40] Speaker 1: ABC today with a long, long piece online today which
[38:43] Speaker 1: was all about how the garden sprinkler is a big problem,
[38:46] Speaker 1: particularly in the fight of climate change. Why because we
[38:48] Speaker 1: need more water than ever before and peddling it all
[38:51] Speaker 1: over your lawn so it looks green terrible for the country. Matt,
[38:55] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure water is not free and if you
[38:57] Speaker 1: choose to water your garden with it, you pay for
[38:59] Speaker 1: the free making privilege. So what is their point.
[39:04] Speaker 6: I don't know.
[39:05] Speaker 10: I felt like responding with that meme that you know,
[39:09] Speaker 10: I don't have time to read that, but I'm sorry
[39:11] Speaker 10: this has happened to you.
[39:14] Speaker 6: You know you've succeeded. I don't know. It was just
[39:18] Speaker 6: such handing.
[39:19] Speaker 10: Wasn't just about people wanting a garden and wanting to
[39:23] Speaker 10: grow a lawn and play cricket on it. I mean,
[39:25] Speaker 10: we can do that in this country and look to
[39:27] Speaker 10: the extent that our rainfall is getting more variable, and
[39:30] Speaker 10: there's not a lot of evidence of that, but let's
[39:32] Speaker 10: take them at their premise that it's becoming more variable.
[39:35] Speaker 10: We're getting more dry periods. You know, there's this technology, Paul,
[39:38] Speaker 10: that can help with that. It's called dams. Yes, it
[39:41] Speaker 10: can build dams. We could build dams that help us
[39:45] Speaker 10: get through the dry periods and still have water and
[39:48] Speaker 10: then when it rains they fill up again.
[39:49] Speaker 6: It's a marvelous technology.
[39:51] Speaker 10: It seems completely the ABC seemed completely ignorant to it.
[39:54] Speaker 6: So maybe we could teach them.
[39:55] Speaker 1: About that, all right, Well, perhaps they haven't seen such
[39:57] Speaker 1: things around Ultimo or South Bank. James quick final thought.
[40:01] Speaker 5: Oh look, I just thought it was ABC primtivism ripped large.
[40:05] Speaker 5: You know, they heat the infrastructure of water, which is
[40:07] Speaker 5: what drives civilization, and they heat the green line because
[40:11] Speaker 5: it's the weight picket Feds, which is nineteen fifties Australia,
[40:14] Speaker 5: which they get the allergies too.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Thank you, Lad's no six, no lefties, which is why
[40:19] Speaker 1: you see the Price is next here on Pulmurray Life.
[40:21] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching stick about She sit
[40:28] Speaker 1: a Nampa. Jimper Price is a senator representing the good
[40:31] Speaker 1: people of the Northern Territory. She does so, of course,
[40:33] Speaker 1: in Canberra, and there is much to talk about her
[40:35] Speaker 1: side of politics tonight. She joins us now from well
[40:39] Speaker 1: not Canberra right now. Where are you tonight, mate?
[40:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm in Canberra.
[40:43] Speaker 1: Oh good, Okay, of course, sorry, I was just quickly
[40:45] Speaker 1: judging off the background. They never bring it up fast enough. Okay,
[40:48] Speaker 1: let's get to this. I want to get you reaction
[40:49] Speaker 1: to a couple of things, and then obviously your perspective
[40:51] Speaker 1: on where everything is right. There is no more popular
[40:55] Speaker 1: guest in the history of this program, I would say
[40:57] Speaker 1: than your good self. People look forward to hearing what
[40:59] Speaker 1: you have to say because they love what you're about
[41:01] Speaker 1: and they love that, you know, bs right, how do
[41:04] Speaker 1: you feel about people like Corey Bnardi when they want
[41:06] Speaker 1: to get it back into Parliament they want to do
[41:08] Speaker 1: so via One Nation and not back through the Libs,
[41:11] Speaker 1: the NATS, the Country Liberal Party, the LNP or all
[41:14] Speaker 1: of the various other versions of Team Blue.
[41:18] Speaker 2: Oh look, I mean, I guess that's up to that individual.
[41:22] Speaker 2: I suppose it's there, right, we were part of a
[41:24] Speaker 2: broader democracy to stand up and throw their hat back
[41:27] Speaker 2: in the ring and to have another go. You know,
[41:31] Speaker 2: that's entirely Corey's choice obviously, and you know there are
[41:36] Speaker 2: those people who feel like they still have more in
[41:39] Speaker 2: them in being able to serve the Australian people. So yeah,
[41:45] Speaker 2: look that's their choice and good luck. I suppose I say.
[41:50] Speaker 1: Did you play that beautifully?
[41:52] Speaker 6: Right?
[41:52] Speaker 8: You?
[41:52] Speaker 1: Just straight little middle stuff. Bang, that's gotten to no
[41:54] Speaker 1: middle stump. Just bang, that's dot ball all right, So
[41:57] Speaker 1: I'll try this one. Obviously, the plan was for you
[42:02] Speaker 1: to run as the deputy to Angus Taylor post election
[42:06] Speaker 1: when leadership was an option. I haven't heard anything from
[42:10] Speaker 1: Angus Taylor in the past couple of days about whether
[42:12] Speaker 1: his intention is to do something or whether his intention
[42:14] Speaker 1: is to absolutely not do something. Have you had any
[42:17] Speaker 1: similar conversations with Angus Taylor that you had post the election.
[42:23] Speaker 8: Oh?
[42:23] Speaker 2: Look, I suppose you know, if there's going to be
[42:25] Speaker 2: any kind of leadership spill, then whoever is going to
[42:29] Speaker 2: be any kind of challenger will make that clear. And
[42:35] Speaker 2: until such time, I suppose you know, it's unclear. But yeah,
[42:42] Speaker 2: and these are all obviously questions and conversations for the
[42:46] Speaker 2: party room, and we'll wait and see.
[42:49] Speaker 6: I suppose do.
[42:51] Speaker 1: You think it's time for a change? Does there need
[42:54] Speaker 1: to be a change or is that something that can
[42:57] Speaker 1: be dealt with later.
[42:59] Speaker 2: Look, I think if you ask the Australian people, I
[43:04] Speaker 2: think there is certainly an expectation from the people of
[43:07] Speaker 2: this country, certainly those who have been supporters of the
[43:11] Speaker 2: Liberal Party, that we're not reflecting what they'd like to
[43:17] Speaker 2: see in who we are. And you know, I believe
[43:21] Speaker 2: that going forward we need to be less labor light,
[43:27] Speaker 2: I suppose labor and blue if you like. We need
[43:30] Speaker 2: to be able to be prosecuting policies that are of
[43:34] Speaker 2: absolute difference to labor and representing the needs of the
[43:38] Speaker 2: Australian people and working hard to demonstrate to the Australian
[43:43] Speaker 2: people that one we're an effective opposition, but two we
[43:48] Speaker 2: are the alternative government for the Australian people. You know,
[43:54] Speaker 2: it's basic things like being able to you know, the
[43:57] Speaker 2: message is clear. We need to restore cheap energy. We
[44:01] Speaker 2: need to make sure that we are building townhouses instead
[44:06] Speaker 2: of towel blocks. We need to make sure that we're
[44:08] Speaker 2: stopping mass immigration. I mean, these are concerns that the
[44:12] Speaker 2: Australian people have to be able to bring back industry.
[44:16] Speaker 2: These are the sorts of messages that the Australian people
[44:20] Speaker 2: want to hear. They don't want to see the in
[44:23] Speaker 2: fighting and the squabbling. They don't want to hear about
[44:26] Speaker 2: the last time, you know, members of the Liberal Party
[44:30] Speaker 2: were briefed out against by their own colleagues. They want
[44:34] Speaker 2: to see some substance and they want to see a backbone,
[44:37] Speaker 2: and they want to see us take up the fight
[44:40] Speaker 2: to labor instead of it being amongst ourselves.
[44:43] Speaker 1: Do you think it can be fixed? Because I'm sitting
[44:46] Speaker 1: here thinking again, right that there is obviously and everyone
[44:49] Speaker 1: knows it, right, the adult obvious conversation is that there
[44:52] Speaker 1: are versions of liberals, right, there are people who think
[44:54] Speaker 1: it goes this way, this way, all of that stuff right,
[44:57] Speaker 1: and sometimes that can manifest itself in as you say,
[45:00] Speaker 1: you know, people supposedly on the same team who are
[45:02] Speaker 1: going out and saying nasty things about other people behind
[45:05] Speaker 1: the scenes, or even as a way of trying to
[45:07] Speaker 1: drop the hammer, like you've experienced. It happens publicly. Obviously
[45:13] Speaker 1: people all want to unite around a goal, which is winning.
[45:17] Speaker 1: But what needs to happen behind the scenes for either
[45:19] Speaker 1: everyone to let it go, drop the temperature, forgive circuit break,
[45:27] Speaker 1: what's something here?
[45:29] Speaker 2: I think people need to put their egos to the
[45:31] Speaker 2: side and understand that we've been elected by the Australian people.
[45:35] Speaker 2: That's who have put us there, and that is who
[45:38] Speaker 2: we should be representing. And as I said, we need
[45:40] Speaker 2: to reflect their needs and their expectations and ultimately they
[45:45] Speaker 2: come first. That's who we need to be putting first,
[45:48] Speaker 2: is the Australian people.
[45:51] Speaker 1: You know.
[45:51] Speaker 2: As for the Liberal Party, I think we need to
[45:55] Speaker 2: going forward, it needs to be about pre selecting individuals
[46:00] Speaker 2: who are there for the right reasons, who have conviction,
[46:04] Speaker 2: who are willing to stand up and have a go
[46:07] Speaker 2: and have a fight, and not be timid to take
[46:10] Speaker 2: the fight up to a horrendous government and a horrendous
[46:15] Speaker 2: prime minister who is absolutely running this place into the ground.
[46:19] Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the current situation, people
[46:20] Speaker 2: are being shot and killed on our beach and this
[46:25] Speaker 2: is under this government's watch, and yet this prime minister
[46:29] Speaker 2: is still up there as being appearing to be the
[46:32] Speaker 2: most popular preferred prime minister in the country, even after
[46:37] Speaker 2: everything that we've gone through. And so we need to
[46:40] Speaker 2: take cold, hard look at ourselves to say, right, oh,
[46:45] Speaker 2: enough of the nonsense, let's get it together. This is
[46:48] Speaker 2: about the Australian people after the first most horrific terrorist
[46:53] Speaker 2: attack that's occurred on home, on our home soil.
[46:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. I also want to say to all of those
[46:58] Speaker 1: people that are, you know, feeling weird, feeling wobbly, feeling dejected,
[47:02] Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be the lady you can see
[47:04] Speaker 1: on TV right now is not intimidated by poles. Remember
[47:07] Speaker 1: when sixty forty was the other way around. All Right,
[47:11] Speaker 1: opinion polls, they come, they go, we'll see what happens.
[47:14] Speaker 1: But this is the type of person in just sit
[47:16] Speaker 1: at amper Jipper Price who can turn things around if
[47:19] Speaker 1: they're given the space leadership and opportunity to do so.
[47:23] Speaker 1: Thank you for the chat. Thank you for being so honest.
[47:25] Speaker 1: I look forward to a much easier chat when we
[47:27] Speaker 1: see you in a couple of weeks time. Thank you done.
[47:29] Speaker 1: Let's type say yeah, Buddy Eiths, good on you, all right,
[47:32] Speaker 1: Senator just An Amper jimper Price one of the best
[47:35] Speaker 1: in Cambero quick break back with mourn here on Paul
[47:37] Speaker 1: Murray Live reminder Corey Binnardi after joining One Nation here
[47:40] Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow night. Oh you know how you
[47:48] Speaker 1: have seen all these stories for the past few days
[47:52] Speaker 1: that the Milania Trump documentary is so terrible, no one's
[47:55] Speaker 1: going to see it. It's awful, It's going to be
[47:56] Speaker 1: a bomb. Guess what. It's had the highest opening this
[48:00] Speaker 1: century of any documentary. All right now. It is, of
[48:04] Speaker 1: course following her around for the days leading up to
[48:09] Speaker 1: the inauguration, right. It shows about her interaction with the president,
[48:13] Speaker 1: her standing on our own two feet. And again, such documentaries,
[48:17] Speaker 1: hagiographies hanging out with are all effortless for lefties, I
[48:21] Speaker 1: mean literally. You know, some streaming services are full of
[48:24] Speaker 1: all this stuff about the Obamas or the just interer Allen,
[48:27] Speaker 1: remember that one just In Allen sorry of course, the
[48:31] Speaker 1: New Zealand Prime Minister. She's got a documentary that's very important.
[48:34] Speaker 1: Just inter Durn thank you. Sorry, how we forget so
[48:38] Speaker 1: why not? Yes, it's got a rather expensive budget. It'll
[48:42] Speaker 1: well and truly make that back well mega people have
[48:45] Speaker 1: turned up, they're interested, they want to support and it
[48:48] Speaker 1: has now opened, as I say, at the number one
[48:51] Speaker 1: position for any documentary since the year two thousand. The
[48:56] Speaker 1: Late Debate is next. We will see you tomorrow night
[48:57] Speaker 1: with Corey
[49:01] Speaker 8: kN

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