# Paul Murray Live | 28 July

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 28 Jul 2026, 50 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/3b3a51e3-2125-4209-885d-b49500d38a52/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Pauline Hanson joins the program to answer your questions. Plus, dissecting the data as Labor remains in the lead with social cohesion concerns rising. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: This is more Rensert please explode ex.
[0:10] Speaker 2: Welcome to the headquarters here of New twenty four, where
[0:13] Speaker 2: our very special guest this evening is none other than
[0:15] Speaker 2: the leader of one nation, the Senator representing Queensland, but
[0:18] Speaker 2: of course a figure known the country wide. Ladies and gentlemen,
[0:21] Speaker 2: once again given up for Senator Pauline. So the whole
[0:28] Speaker 2: point of tonight is for you to be able to
[0:30] Speaker 2: answer as many questions from people here in the room
[0:33] Speaker 2: and around the country.
[0:35] Speaker 3: It's not about me and follow ups and all the rest.
[0:38] Speaker 2: But I will simply ask one question right now, which
[0:41] Speaker 2: is how's it feeling. It's been a wild ride since
[0:44] Speaker 2: the last election, and you must be feeling a certain
[0:48] Speaker 2: weight of responsibility that the numbers have been as strong
[0:52] Speaker 2: as they've been for as long as they've been.
[0:55] Speaker 4: That's definitely, Paul. There is a way to responsibility and
[0:59] Speaker 4: a number of people up to me all the time.
[1:00] Speaker 4: Please don't give up, keep going where you're our last
[1:04] Speaker 4: hope for the country. People feel in despair that they
[1:07] Speaker 4: don't know what the future holds for their children and
[1:10] Speaker 4: their grandchildren, and yes it is, but you know, in
[1:14] Speaker 4: a lot of ways, Paul, I feel vi indicated because
[1:16] Speaker 4: I've stuck to my guns, my consistency. I've believed myself,
[1:20] Speaker 4: I believe my country, and I believe in doing the
[1:22] Speaker 4: right thing by the people of Australia, my fellow Australian.
[1:25] Speaker 4: So you know, and hopefully I'm getting a lot more
[1:28] Speaker 4: people on board and we're pushing this having a voice,
[1:33] Speaker 4: that's what people want, just to be heard.
[1:35] Speaker 2: Well, that's why so many people wanted to be in
[1:37] Speaker 2: the room tonight, and soe many people have got a question, Michelle,
[1:40] Speaker 2: You're going to be first up tonight and first cut
[1:42] Speaker 2: off the rank.
[1:42] Speaker 3: What's your question for Pauline Hands?
[1:43] Speaker 4: Thank you, Pauline. If your party were elected to government,
[1:47] Speaker 4: what other the top five actions you would take in
[1:50] Speaker 4: your first one hundred days in office? Right? Okay, Well,
[1:55] Speaker 4: I think that one that I've been very consistent with
[1:57] Speaker 4: for the past thirty years is immigration. We have too
[2:01] Speaker 4: many people coming in the country. Cut back in the
[2:03] Speaker 4: immigration I'm selecting to figure arout about one hundred and
[2:05] Speaker 4: thirty thousand people. You've still got to allow those into
[2:08] Speaker 4: the country because a lot of businesses and doctors and
[2:11] Speaker 4: nurses that we need. You feel those positions by all means,
[2:14] Speaker 4: but cut back in the immigration will actually address the
[2:18] Speaker 4: housing issue that we have. Cost living is another one.
[2:22] Speaker 4: Government overspend. It's not about the war in the Middle East.
[2:26] Speaker 4: And what has happened is government has been wasting and
[2:29] Speaker 4: spending too much money, which created the inflation which is
[2:32] Speaker 4: riven cost of living. So therefore we addressed government spending.
[2:37] Speaker 4: It needs to be cut right back the wasteful spending.
[2:41] Speaker 4: I'd have a good look at that. I think the
[2:44] Speaker 4: other one is get rid of the Climate Change Department,
[2:47] Speaker 4: get rid of all that net zero rubbish, get out
[2:50] Speaker 4: of the Paris Agreement. Once you do that, you're going
[2:53] Speaker 4: to reduce the cost of living and cost of electricity
[2:55] Speaker 4: price as well. So therefore, once you do that, industries, manufacturing,
[3:00] Speaker 4: small business will thrive from it. The average household will
[3:03] Speaker 4: also thrive because not paying the high electricity costs farming
[3:06] Speaker 4: sector irrigate us. Everyone like that. A country that is
[3:12] Speaker 4: going to be productive has to have cheap energy. We've
[3:16] Speaker 4: known that for over one hundred years. That's where we
[3:19] Speaker 4: need to drive that as well. I'd like to get
[3:23] Speaker 4: rid of the red, green, and Black tape and the
[3:25] Speaker 4: blue tape of international agreements that are holding us back
[3:30] Speaker 4: with our sovereignty as a nation and meaning that to
[3:36] Speaker 4: get a mine up or anything happened in Australia, it's
[3:38] Speaker 4: about nine plus years. If you want to do a
[3:42] Speaker 4: construction and go into business, you're looking at four years.
[3:46] Speaker 4: It's just the time frame is just ridiculous. Investment in
[3:50] Speaker 4: Australia has dropped right back. We're one of the worst
[3:53] Speaker 4: countries in the OECD world with investment. So these are
[3:57] Speaker 4: all things that needs to be done basically immediately to
[4:01] Speaker 4: get productivity up in the country.
[4:04] Speaker 3: Good. So, thank you very much, Michelle. I do appreciate it.
[4:06] Speaker 2: All right, Dean is going to join us now. Deani's
[4:09] Speaker 2: in Queensland. Join us there here on the big Telly
[4:11] Speaker 2: we've got set up today.
[4:12] Speaker 3: Mate. What's your question for Pauline Hansen?
[4:14] Speaker 4: Hey Pauline, thanks for aking this question.
[4:17] Speaker 5: Just wanted to know if you had and you were
[4:21] Speaker 5: elected to power, in what ways would you reduce government spending.
[4:26] Speaker 4: Quite a few areas here, OK, ndis needs to be
[4:30] Speaker 4: looked at and I've been on about that sometime. It's
[4:33] Speaker 4: costing about fifty two billion at the moment. If it
[4:35] Speaker 4: kept going by twenty thirty two would be one hundred billion.
[4:39] Speaker 4: Dollars it is now equal to what we spent on defence.
[4:44] Speaker 4: Instead of going after people stopping because they said they
[4:47] Speaker 4: want to cut back one hundred and sixty thousand, these
[4:50] Speaker 4: might be people who really need that assistance. Go after
[4:53] Speaker 4: the ones that are scamming it and ripping who they're
[4:57] Speaker 4: the ones. I'd go after a lot of people ripping
[5:00] Speaker 4: the system off. And so n diis is one the
[5:04] Speaker 4: Aboriginal industry that I've been on about this for a
[5:07] Speaker 4: long long time, the waste of money that goes in
[5:10] Speaker 4: that and I'd like to see every Australian tread on
[5:14] Speaker 4: an individual needs based not based on race. And if
[5:19] Speaker 4: we did that, you would actually save a lot of money.
[5:21] Speaker 4: A lot of these Aboriginal corporations are wasting the money.
[5:27] Speaker 4: So I'd like to see that and audit done on
[5:31] Speaker 4: the Aboriginal spending.
[5:32] Speaker 3: Swell.
[5:32] Speaker 4: Climate Change Department could go We're actually tied up to
[5:37] Speaker 4: the tune of billions of dollars in the Climate Change
[5:41] Speaker 4: Department transmission lines. That's we have no idea what they
[5:45] Speaker 4: paying out and subsidies to a lot of these companies,
[5:49] Speaker 4: so we need to rain that back in and yeah,
[5:52] Speaker 4: the Climate Change Department that's another one, and of course
[5:55] Speaker 4: you got Paul, there's another one too. We're duplicating a
[5:59] Speaker 4: lot of US services, whether it comes to education or health.
[6:03] Speaker 4: We have federal and we have state. We have to
[6:07] Speaker 4: take a lot of the responsibility of the federal, hand
[6:09] Speaker 4: it to the states and make them take responsibility for
[6:13] Speaker 4: a lot of these areas as well, which will cut
[6:15] Speaker 4: back the duplication. Oh, there's a lot more I can doc.
[6:18] Speaker 3: You could keep going.
[6:18] Speaker 2: I like it all right, Matthew, have you got a question?
[6:21] Speaker 2: Get Matthew, what's your question here?
[6:23] Speaker 6: For you mentioned it?
[6:25] Speaker 4: You would like to jurastically reduced migration. What annual migration
[6:28] Speaker 4: number would that look like?
[6:29] Speaker 7: And what criteria would someone need to meet to be
[6:31] Speaker 7: considered skilled migrant?
[6:33] Speaker 4: Right, you're right there. I said about one hundred and
[6:37] Speaker 4: thirty thousand. That would not be permanently. Let's review it
[6:41] Speaker 4: every year, every couple of years and see if we've
[6:45] Speaker 4: got the right number. The mix. It will come down
[6:47] Speaker 4: to the housing. So at the moment, we don't have
[6:50] Speaker 4: enough people. We've got about one hundred and fifty thousand
[6:53] Speaker 4: people who are homeless in Australia and there's no potential
[6:56] Speaker 4: for the younger generation coming through and earning their own home.
[7:00] Speaker 4: So everything comes down housing, your supply and demand. Now
[7:04] Speaker 4: those people skilled migrants, and I'll give you these figures.
[7:07] Speaker 4: In between twenty two and twenty three, we brought in
[7:09] Speaker 4: seven hundred and thirty nine thousand people of that and
[7:13] Speaker 4: they said, oh, we need to skill migrants for a housing.
[7:16] Speaker 4: Of that, only fifty one thousand, six hundred and five
[7:19] Speaker 4: were actually skilled, and of that only eighteen hundred in
[7:23] Speaker 4: the construction industry. It's been a scam. They brought people
[7:27] Speaker 4: in that have no benefit to this country. We don't
[7:29] Speaker 4: need any more Naiot technicians, massules, gougle drivers, all this,
[7:34] Speaker 4: we don't need that. We've got to be smart. So
[7:38] Speaker 4: many people from around the world want to come to Australia.
[7:41] Speaker 4: We can be selective in who we bring in, people
[7:44] Speaker 4: who are going to help us build our nation with productivity,
[7:48] Speaker 4: not drag us down end up on our welfare system.
[7:52] Speaker 2: Are there any countries that have got it right that
[7:54] Speaker 2: you see from around the world. Certainly countries like Poland
[7:58] Speaker 2: are very aggressive, country like Japan.
[8:01] Speaker 4: Are there countries that have most definitely Poland has got
[8:04] Speaker 4: it there. They are actually productivities right up. They're so
[8:08] Speaker 4: proud to be Polish and they're standing up their wave
[8:10] Speaker 4: in the flag. A lot of people left Poland many
[8:13] Speaker 4: years ago and they migrated light over to England and
[8:16] Speaker 4: to Ireland especially and work. Now that the Poles have
[8:21] Speaker 4: got their country in order, they're all floating back to
[8:23] Speaker 4: it and they're proud of the country and they have
[8:26] Speaker 4: got so right.
[8:27] Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we've seen those videos on social media,
[8:29] Speaker 3: haven't we. Yeah?
[8:30] Speaker 2: All right, David is joining us right now as well.
[8:33] Speaker 2: It joins us now via the big screen. David, what
[8:36] Speaker 2: is your question for Pauline Hansen?
[8:38] Speaker 8: Yes, Hi, Pauline, My seven year old daughter recently told
[8:41] Speaker 8: me that it is disrespectful to refer to all the
[8:44] Speaker 8: rue as Air's rock. That prompted me to think about
[8:46] Speaker 8: what has been taught in our education system. I would
[8:49] Speaker 8: like to know one nation's position on welcome to country
[8:52] Speaker 8: and acknowledgment of country practices in daycares, kindergartens, primary schools,
[8:57] Speaker 8: and junior sporting events. Would your party seek to make
[9:00] Speaker 8: these practices optional or remove them from those settings to
[9:03] Speaker 8: one nation from government or hold the balance of power?
[9:07] Speaker 4: Well, David, I just don't need to say about getting
[9:10] Speaker 4: rid of it. I actually do it myself on the
[9:13] Speaker 4: floor of Parliament every morning when Parliament starts, they have
[9:15] Speaker 4: a welcomed country first, or for myself and my senators
[9:19] Speaker 4: turn our back on it. That's how I feel about it,
[9:21] Speaker 4: and my actions spect loud of than words sometimes, so
[9:24] Speaker 4: I'm prepared to do it myself. I think it's a
[9:27] Speaker 4: divisive and I do not believe in having welcomed a country,
[9:31] Speaker 4: and it wouldn't be you can't stop people if businesses
[9:36] Speaker 4: want to do it, all right, But in government departments,
[9:39] Speaker 4: I wouldn't have a welcomed country on the bottom of
[9:42] Speaker 4: their literature or their's sheets. Pope. They put out all
[9:46] Speaker 4: on government websites, and I wouldn't be having it in
[9:50] Speaker 4: educational system schools. I'd shut that all down. So, and
[9:55] Speaker 4: I'll tell you another thing too. There won't be three flags.
[9:59] Speaker 7: Throw one in.
[10:02] Speaker 3: Terry is with us in the room? Terry? Where are
[10:05] Speaker 3: you mate?
[10:05] Speaker 7: I'm really happy to be here. What's your view on
[10:09] Speaker 7: helping young Australians enter the property market without eroding the
[10:12] Speaker 7: investment gains that older generations have worked hard to accumulate?
[10:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, very hard for the younger generation. But I'll tell
[10:20] Speaker 4: you something I don't believe in the five percent to
[10:23] Speaker 4: be deposit that the governments allowed them. I think you're
[10:26] Speaker 4: setting them up for failure. It's extremely hard, but it's
[10:29] Speaker 4: taken a lot longer now years to accumulate that deposit
[10:34] Speaker 4: that they need for a house. What we need to
[10:36] Speaker 4: do is reduce the cost of housing. Now, to build
[10:39] Speaker 4: a house, you're paying forty to forty four percent taxes. Now,
[10:43] Speaker 4: let me put in perspective, if you build a million
[10:45] Speaker 4: dollar house, you know what you're paying taxes four hundred
[10:49] Speaker 4: thousand dollars is taxes on that million dollar home. That's
[10:53] Speaker 4: what needs to be addressed. Reduce your cost of housing
[10:57] Speaker 4: to build that house. And you know a lot of
[11:01] Speaker 4: these kids running get into house and because the help
[11:04] Speaker 4: from the parents, they're giving them the deposit and everything
[11:07] Speaker 4: like that. It's not the country that I grew up in.
[11:10] Speaker 4: The opportunities have gone. But if you can address the
[11:13] Speaker 4: cost living, the cost of build and house. See what
[11:15] Speaker 4: we're also doing with One Nation policy that if you
[11:18] Speaker 4: build a house up to a million dollar then we
[11:20] Speaker 4: you do the GST on the building materials. So we're
[11:25] Speaker 4: looking at how to reduce the cost of that housing.
[11:28] Speaker 4: But I think we need to look at the taxes
[11:30] Speaker 4: at the government and councils and states are actually charging
[11:34] Speaker 4: for housing.
[11:35] Speaker 2: We're sitting in a cracking pacing with the number of
[11:37] Speaker 2: questions that we have. We do appreciate them both in
[11:39] Speaker 2: the room and around the country here on News twenty four,
[11:42] Speaker 2: this special edition of Paul Murray Live, which is Pauline Hanson,
[11:45] Speaker 2: please explain. Thank you for letting us use that term.
[11:47] Speaker 2: Over the past few weeks, We've got Alex and Trush.
[11:50] Speaker 2: You are joining us now from Victoria. What's your question
[11:52] Speaker 2: for Pauline?
[11:53] Speaker 3: Guys? Oh hid ah my.
[11:56] Speaker 2: I think our question is particularly permanent after today's news,
[12:01] Speaker 2: But basically, we are really interested in when you're going
[12:05] Speaker 2: to have candidates for Victoria.
[12:07] Speaker 7: We're really looking forward to being.
[12:09] Speaker 3: Able to back.
[12:12] Speaker 4: Look, I don't blame you. It's a basque case in Victoria.
[12:15] Speaker 4: You need all the help you can get. So what
[12:18] Speaker 4: we're doing is we'll be hopefully announcing either prior or
[12:23] Speaker 4: early next week our candidates for especially the Upper House.
[12:28] Speaker 4: We're starting with that, we're going to announce the other candidates.
[12:30] Speaker 4: We have locked in about seventy four seventy six seats
[12:34] Speaker 4: at the moment of the eighty eight. So we have
[12:36] Speaker 4: got our candidates. So anyway, we are going to be
[12:41] Speaker 4: announced the candidates and we'll have a sweeter policies to
[12:44] Speaker 4: go with that. So you will have a one nation
[12:47] Speaker 4: representative that you can vote for in Victoria.
[12:51] Speaker 3: And the Victorian leader is.
[12:54] Speaker 4: No Paul, that's not part of the deal.
[12:57] Speaker 2: You could push it. You can always push it just
[12:58] Speaker 2: a little bit further a right. Mark has got a
[13:01] Speaker 2: question for us right in the middle here.
[13:04] Speaker 3: Hi, thanks for the opportunity.
[13:06] Speaker 1: How will you bring about a culture of Australia first,
[13:10] Speaker 1: love it or leave it?
[13:11] Speaker 3: Christian?
[13:12] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've got to start in our educational
[13:16] Speaker 4: system because I think it's been taken away from our kids.
[13:18] Speaker 4: We don't teach our history anymore, which if we're ashamed
[13:21] Speaker 4: of it and stop the division that's happening. And I
[13:26] Speaker 4: think it's important to the kids have to be proud
[13:30] Speaker 4: where they are, the home that they live in, and
[13:33] Speaker 4: I think that's all been forgotten. People are screaming out
[13:36] Speaker 4: for it. When I talk to people, they really have
[13:38] Speaker 4: this pride in them. Even migrants have come up to
[13:41] Speaker 4: me and they said, oh, can I give you a hug?
[13:43] Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, no worries and these people who
[13:45] Speaker 4: have come for this country come to the country. I
[13:49] Speaker 4: was so grateful and thankful for the opportunity they have
[13:52] Speaker 4: been given. But they said to me, Paul, and you're
[13:54] Speaker 4: so right. We came here for a better way of life,
[13:58] Speaker 4: and we don't want this country to become like the
[14:00] Speaker 4: place that we left. And we're forgetting that. And we've
[14:04] Speaker 4: got to acknowledge that if we bond as a nation,
[14:10] Speaker 4: you know, with the same beliefs where we want our
[14:12] Speaker 4: nation to go, the prosperity, a decent, sam living way
[14:15] Speaker 4: of life, they will come. And I believe that. You know,
[14:18] Speaker 4: when I grew up in the sixties and seventies, at
[14:21] Speaker 4: that period of time, we had pride in our nation.
[14:24] Speaker 4: We had pride and flame flying the Australian flag. We
[14:26] Speaker 4: had pride watching the come up and Olympic Games and
[14:29] Speaker 4: everything like that. And I see that pride diminishing every
[14:33] Speaker 4: day of the week by these aggressives out there, progressives
[14:36] Speaker 4: you know aim it. You know, they've got so much
[14:38] Speaker 4: anger in them. And I don't know what the hell's
[14:40] Speaker 4: going on.
[14:40] Speaker 3: Why can I.
[14:42] Speaker 2: Just ask another question, which was yesterday the Federal Court
[14:46] Speaker 2: and we saw the appeal about the situation involving the
[14:49] Speaker 2: tweets in the back and forth with Marine Feruki.
[14:53] Speaker 3: Again, the court makes.
[14:54] Speaker 2: The decisions that it does, but there's a pretty sizable
[14:56] Speaker 2: amount of money that's on the table here. When Andrew
[14:59] Speaker 2: Bolt took do you about it? The first time around?
[15:02] Speaker 2: It was pretty confronting how emotional that was for you.
[15:07] Speaker 2: Are you ready to be able to pay what is
[15:10] Speaker 2: being asked?
[15:11] Speaker 3: Have you here?
[15:13] Speaker 4: Paul, Yes, it is, I have to. There's a lot
[15:18] Speaker 4: of sport, there's a lot riding on this. It's not
[15:20] Speaker 4: just about pauling hands and it's about how we move
[15:23] Speaker 4: forward as a nation to be able to have the
[15:25] Speaker 4: ability to express ourselves and say what what we feel
[15:29] Speaker 4: that we need to express. The Governor and under Tony
[15:32] Speaker 4: Abbott and Scott Morrison had the opportunity to get rid
[15:35] Speaker 4: of eighteen C. Eighteen C is where anyone can take
[15:39] Speaker 4: you if they feel offended, harass, intimidated or insulted. So
[15:45] Speaker 4: anyone can feel offended and whatever you do, it's just
[15:48] Speaker 4: a ridiculous piece of law legislation. So if I win
[15:51] Speaker 4: this case, they will be thrown out. And you know
[15:56] Speaker 4: you don't go out there to easily offend someone. If
[15:59] Speaker 4: any offense is going to cause violence. I'm totally opposed
[16:02] Speaker 4: to that, but we have a right to have an opinion.
[16:06] Speaker 4: They're shutting us down and pin him because you might
[16:08] Speaker 4: offend someone. You know, it's just ridiculous. So it's a
[16:12] Speaker 4: battle of the fight that I'm going to have to have.
[16:14] Speaker 4: I am talking to my lawyers now at the moment
[16:18] Speaker 4: of going to putting an appeal to the High Court.
[16:21] Speaker 4: I'm not going to drop it. I'm not walking away
[16:23] Speaker 4: from this. I've been a fighter and it's not about
[16:25] Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson. It's about the Australian people for us to
[16:28] Speaker 4: have a voice.
[16:32] Speaker 3: Francisco, thank you. Francisco is going to join us now
[16:35] Speaker 3: via zoom around the.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Country right now, Francisco Gada, what is your question for
[16:40] Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson?
[16:41] Speaker 3: Mate? Thank you for having me tonight.
[16:43] Speaker 9: I just wanted to say that my question is what
[16:46] Speaker 9: we're right in Australia. In nineteen seventy five to the
[16:48] Speaker 9: Fairy Matter Hostel for a Better life. Now, our father
[16:52] Speaker 9: was given a job at the HP still it's in
[16:55] Speaker 9: Port Kembler. He went there for twenty five years. We
[16:58] Speaker 9: can double shifts and on one occasion in a triple
[17:02] Speaker 9: shift to get.
[17:02] Speaker 3: His family ahead.
[17:04] Speaker 9: Eventually they got faced out. He made sure that his
[17:07] Speaker 9: sons became Australian citizens, to this beautiful country for a
[17:10] Speaker 9: better life. My question is, my parents are eighty nine
[17:13] Speaker 9: years of age and they are not citizens of this
[17:16] Speaker 9: beautiful country. Do they lose their benefits if they are
[17:19] Speaker 9: not citizens at the age of eighty nine years of age?
[17:22] Speaker 3: If one national internection?
[17:25] Speaker 4: Oh no, not at all, No way in the word world.
[17:28] Speaker 4: Didn't even think about that loosing their benefits. You know
[17:32] Speaker 4: they've are they their permanent residence yes in austract Yeah, yeah,
[17:38] Speaker 4: they have been permanent residence and they've been paying the
[17:40] Speaker 4: taxes all these years. I don't believe in taking the benefits.
[17:43] Speaker 4: And at eighty nine years of age, you know, I
[17:46] Speaker 4: don't think it would be fair to even do that,
[17:48] Speaker 4: wouldn't you never consider that?
[17:50] Speaker 3: There?
[17:50] Speaker 2: You got Francisco, nice and clear, and you give the
[17:52] Speaker 2: message to.
[17:54] Speaker 3: Mom and dad.
[17:54] Speaker 2: All right, Warrick, Thank you, mate, Warrick, get I mate
[17:58] Speaker 2: in the front row.
[18:01] Speaker 10: Over thirty years ago, carry Packett told Parliament that for
[18:03] Speaker 10: every new law that they want to bring in, they
[18:05] Speaker 10: should repeal one. What are the main laws that you
[18:08] Speaker 10: would repeal as soon as you could. That would help
[18:12] Speaker 10: hard working Australians.
[18:14] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. So what laws I
[18:16] Speaker 4: would repeal. I think our environmental laws I think they're
[18:20] Speaker 4: over the top and in stopping productivity. They've just were
[18:27] Speaker 4: out another one just recently that if you haven't farmed
[18:30] Speaker 4: your land for fifteen years, you have to go and
[18:32] Speaker 4: license for it and then that could cost you up
[18:35] Speaker 4: to one hundred and forty thousand dollars. So they're stopping
[18:37] Speaker 4: farming that's happening in Australia. So that needs to be addressed.
[18:43] Speaker 4: The safeguard mechanisms, that's another one that's stopping industries manufacturing.
[18:49] Speaker 4: These are laws that we really need to look at
[18:51] Speaker 4: what is holding us back as a nation that we
[18:55] Speaker 4: need productivity move forward. So it's a lot of those
[18:58] Speaker 4: climate change laws that brought in which is actually holding
[19:02] Speaker 4: us back. And you know some of the other laws
[19:05] Speaker 4: of taxation. I'd like to get rid of payroll tax.
[19:08] Speaker 4: I think that is a ridiculous tax that anyone who
[19:13] Speaker 4: employs people, you're paying more moral tax. These are things
[19:16] Speaker 4: that I've tried to talk to the Morrison government about
[19:19] Speaker 4: how we could work to actually get rid of it,
[19:21] Speaker 4: but the feders are going to have to subsidize the
[19:24] Speaker 4: states to get rid of it.
[19:25] Speaker 3: We've got another question.
[19:27] Speaker 2: This one is coming in which had a little bit
[19:29] Speaker 2: earlier today via email, paul and Western Australia says, I'd
[19:32] Speaker 2: love to vote for one nation. By my biggest concern
[19:34] Speaker 2: is the candidates, the Pauline choosers. I met a couple
[19:37] Speaker 2: in the last election and was not impressed. What is
[19:41] Speaker 2: your process for selecting candidates and the pool of people
[19:44] Speaker 2: wishing to become candidates. Of course we know, as you
[19:48] Speaker 2: said before about Victoria and how big that was, but
[19:50] Speaker 2: tell us about the vetting process. Obviously there's some secret source.
[19:53] Speaker 2: But what happens if you put your hand up and
[19:55] Speaker 2: say I want to be on our nation candidate.
[19:57] Speaker 4: Look, it hasn't been easy for the part period of
[20:00] Speaker 4: time because the last election we've got about six and
[20:02] Speaker 4: a half percent. So people are thinking they want to
[20:05] Speaker 4: support us and give it a go and stand as
[20:07] Speaker 4: a candidate. And I appreciate that. You know, I don't think, oh, well,
[20:10] Speaker 4: it's just been there as a name on the ballot
[20:13] Speaker 4: paper to sport one nation vote pub But this time around,
[20:17] Speaker 4: you know, there's a real chance that we can actually
[20:19] Speaker 4: win seats in the Low House and the Senate the people.
[20:25] Speaker 4: Can I tell you for Victoria, we've had twelve hundred
[20:28] Speaker 4: expressions of interest in Victoria for candidates. The seat of
[20:32] Speaker 4: Pharaoh that we won, we had eighty one expressions of
[20:35] Speaker 4: interest for that. The federal so far fifteen hundred. So
[20:39] Speaker 4: the process that we've got now is it's a system
[20:44] Speaker 4: that we've put in place that it really has a
[20:47] Speaker 4: thorough look at the candidates. So if you've got some
[20:49] Speaker 4: thing that you've done somewhere else in the world, it'll
[20:52] Speaker 4: find you. It'll tell us you've got a criminal offense internationally,
[20:56] Speaker 4: it'll tell us if you've been a bankrupt if you've
[20:59] Speaker 4: got to the taxation. It'll tell us that if you've
[21:03] Speaker 4: made any comment or put on Facebook page that you
[21:06] Speaker 4: made some stupid comment. So that tells us everything about you,
[21:09] Speaker 4: and we can do that within amount of five minutes.
[21:11] Speaker 3: What about your inherentt BS detector?
[21:14] Speaker 2: Because I can always tell and as long as I've
[21:16] Speaker 2: known you, I can see in your eyes when I
[21:19] Speaker 2: think I know what's really going on here. What's that
[21:21] Speaker 2: like in terms of candidate recruitment, when eventually you get
[21:24] Speaker 2: presented with somebody, you sit down and you go, you're
[21:26] Speaker 2: just telling me what I want to hear.
[21:28] Speaker 3: You don't believe it.
[21:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, we do that. We do. We go through it
[21:32] Speaker 4: with them in a I don't personally do it now,
[21:35] Speaker 4: although if you stand for the Senate you will come
[21:38] Speaker 4: before me half at the judge in that. It's very
[21:41] Speaker 4: important to me to have the right people in that
[21:44] Speaker 4: position because you're win in a seat for six years,
[21:46] Speaker 4: so you need to know that you've got the right
[21:48] Speaker 4: caliber person. And it's very important to me as well
[21:51] Speaker 4: they have a background in something to bring an offer
[21:55] Speaker 4: and put on the table that we're going to be
[21:57] Speaker 4: able to counteract. Because we're a small team, we have
[22:00] Speaker 4: to work twice or three times as hard as the
[22:03] Speaker 4: others to get our point across and working for the people.
[22:07] Speaker 4: And so you can't say that the members of Parliament
[22:10] Speaker 4: that I've got now are not top notch members. They
[22:13] Speaker 4: really are working extremely hard.
[22:15] Speaker 3: All right, Gina, where are you my friend? There? We are, hey, Pauline.
[22:20] Speaker 11: We have been in business for twenty seven years and
[22:23] Speaker 11: have faced many challenges. However, right now all small businesses
[22:27] Speaker 11: are having to deal with scenarios that are so unexpected
[22:31] Speaker 11: and are seriously diminishing all the passion we have. Do
[22:34] Speaker 11: you pulling fiel one nation can ensure changes and make
[22:36] Speaker 11: a real difference without creating more bureaucracy.
[22:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, small business is doing it tough. And I've been
[22:43] Speaker 4: a small business person in my small life, so whether
[22:46] Speaker 4: it be the plumbing business or the chip business in
[22:48] Speaker 4: my family first up when I was eighteen. Then i
[22:51] Speaker 4: went into plumbing business, and I've had my own shop,
[22:53] Speaker 4: and I've had cattles and agriculture as well, so wide
[22:58] Speaker 4: range and business. I've been speaking small businesses as well,
[23:02] Speaker 4: and they're really doing it tough under this government. They've
[23:05] Speaker 4: lost fifty thousand small businesses have become insolvent, and over
[23:09] Speaker 4: fourteen hundred industries and manufacturing government this government especially has
[23:15] Speaker 4: because of their legislation and their regulations, is destroying it.
[23:21] Speaker 4: I'd like the governments to get out of telling businesses
[23:24] Speaker 4: how to run run the businesses again, your costs, your rules,
[23:30] Speaker 4: your regulations. And I'll just tell you this one point
[23:33] Speaker 4: I found out about this. If you've got a cafeteria
[23:37] Speaker 4: or a food shop in Victoria, you've got to get
[23:40] Speaker 4: thirty six licenses to actually do that. So it's over regulation,
[23:46] Speaker 4: over control, and then your counsels again on top of that,
[23:50] Speaker 4: and just my you know, I'm a fish and chop man.
[23:54] Speaker 4: You know I had that one.
[23:56] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Fish and Chips is.
[23:57] Speaker 4: Brand new right fully Stainley Steel. You know, I've got
[24:01] Speaker 4: a license from Risbon and under that license, I can't
[24:05] Speaker 4: cut up let us or a tomato in that van.
[24:07] Speaker 4: Why because it's got a very pre cut You tell
[24:10] Speaker 4: me why. It's got three sinks in it. It's all
[24:13] Speaker 4: standless steel. This is a stupidity of what's going out there,
[24:17] Speaker 4: and people have had a gutful of it, and I've
[24:19] Speaker 4: had a gutful of it. Just get back to what's realistic?
[24:23] Speaker 2: This is it? I mean, So, Gina, I'm assuming you're
[24:25] Speaker 2: in small business.
[24:27] Speaker 11: Yes, Pauline's actually been to our business, but I wasn't
[24:29] Speaker 11: actually there when you came in there.
[24:31] Speaker 4: You go your way.
[24:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, So give us an idea, Gina, about the types
[24:34] Speaker 2: of things where, Yes, what are the things that get
[24:37] Speaker 2: you guys banging your head against the brick wall.
[24:39] Speaker 3: We're going, come on, what is all this?
[24:41] Speaker 11: Well, it's the legislation of the fair work. You have
[24:44] Speaker 11: this same job, same pay. It's quite difficult. Our award
[24:49] Speaker 11: for the hospitality industry is so complex that we have
[24:52] Speaker 11: a lawyer that helps us employment lawyer and she has
[24:55] Speaker 11: to sort of scratch your head and say, Okay, hang on,
[24:57] Speaker 11: I need to read this again and again, and she's so,
[25:00] Speaker 11: we're just running a business. We've been there twenty seven
[25:02] Speaker 11: years and compared to COVID this is that was walking
[25:06] Speaker 11: the park compared to what we're going through now, just
[25:09] Speaker 11: the expenses of running the business because.
[25:12] Speaker 4: They can't They've got to employ someone to do all
[25:14] Speaker 4: their best statements for their staff and all the rest
[25:16] Speaker 4: of it. Same work, same pay. You can't pay someone
[25:19] Speaker 4: who's got, you know, twenty thirty years experience and pay
[25:22] Speaker 4: a young kid is just starting the same wages that
[25:25] Speaker 4: that doesn't work, you know.
[25:27] Speaker 2: And but also it feels like I'm sorry to interrupted,
[25:31] Speaker 2: but it feels like the government puts these very cute
[25:34] Speaker 2: names on pieces of legislation like same work, same pay,
[25:38] Speaker 2: because if you vote against it, then you're against same work,
[25:41] Speaker 2: same pay.
[25:41] Speaker 4: I voted against it.
[25:42] Speaker 3: But when when we're talking about that, Yeah, the real examples.
[25:47] Speaker 2: The truth is a lot more complicated than the what's
[25:51] Speaker 2: just on the books, what's just on the boxes.
[25:53] Speaker 4: You should have your wage, okay, the wages for a
[25:57] Speaker 4: new kid, you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, whatever you are,
[26:00] Speaker 4: that your wages. You've got no experience of knowledge and
[26:02] Speaker 4: that all the rest of it. And it's up to
[26:04] Speaker 4: the business. Businesses out there are desperate for good workers.
[26:08] Speaker 4: If you've got a good worker, you will look after them.
[26:12] Speaker 4: You will actually pay them that bit more to keep
[26:14] Speaker 4: them on. Governments should not be interfering and telling businesses
[26:17] Speaker 4: how to run the business. That's another big thing that
[26:20] Speaker 4: I'm hearing from businesses all the time. You're losing jobs.
[26:25] Speaker 4: They're destroying the job market out there because businesses are
[26:28] Speaker 4: now putting on the extra hours so they don't have
[26:30] Speaker 4: to employ someone. And someone who basically turns up, is
[26:34] Speaker 4: on their phone, does want to work, watch at the clock,
[26:38] Speaker 4: you know it, wants to leave and all these plus
[26:40] Speaker 4: plus plus and all the rest of it. And the
[26:42] Speaker 4: business is saying, I can't deal with this anymore. I'm
[26:45] Speaker 4: not going to employ them. I'm going to do the
[26:46] Speaker 4: extra hours myself.
[26:47] Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned fish and chip. Of course, the van
[26:51] Speaker 2: you've got now, the shop that you used to have.
[26:52] Speaker 2: Will Patrick's written one in here, which is Pauline, do
[26:55] Speaker 2: you ever regret leaving your fish and chip shop? And
[26:58] Speaker 2: is it still operating?
[27:01] Speaker 4: Apparently it is. A fellow pulled me up yesterday said, actually,
[27:04] Speaker 4: paul and I went to see your shop yesterday, so
[27:06] Speaker 4: it's still there. But I've been to it myself, and
[27:09] Speaker 4: so does my children go and get some fish and
[27:12] Speaker 4: chips from it. It's not the business like I used
[27:15] Speaker 4: to have. But I used to go the fish markets
[27:18] Speaker 4: and for eight years I was the only female buyer
[27:21] Speaker 4: down there, and the men used to give me hard time,
[27:24] Speaker 4: but then then I used to give it back to them,
[27:26] Speaker 4: so were good mates.
[27:28] Speaker 3: So it's been you since then.
[27:30] Speaker 2: So I mean, are there times where you regret the
[27:32] Speaker 2: decision to step from behind the counter into the spotlight?
[27:36] Speaker 4: No, at that, Paul, I've got my memories, thank you.
[27:38] Speaker 4: There is eighty or ninety hours a week getting up
[27:40] Speaker 4: at full thirty in the morning, going to the markets
[27:42] Speaker 4: and fish markets, and no, I've got my memories. It's
[27:48] Speaker 4: all good. I was so proud of my business. It
[27:51] Speaker 4: provided for myself my children, as a sole provider for
[27:55] Speaker 4: my family, and I took it on. Actually, my father
[27:59] Speaker 4: said to me when I said, I was thinking when
[28:01] Speaker 4: I separated from my husband, and I had about it
[28:05] Speaker 4: was around about eighteen hours paid work a week at
[28:08] Speaker 4: the bowls club, and I knew that wasn't going to
[28:10] Speaker 4: pay the bills. So I thought, okay, I saw this
[28:13] Speaker 4: business up for sale. Of course, I grew up one
[28:15] Speaker 4: for twenty five years, and I thought, you know, I'm
[28:17] Speaker 4: going to go and buy my own business. And it
[28:19] Speaker 4: was a rundown shop anyway. I borrowed everything plus a
[28:23] Speaker 4: bit more, and I bought the business and I worked
[28:26] Speaker 4: it by myself six days a week. One girl on
[28:29] Speaker 4: Friday night for two hours, another girl for Saturday night
[28:31] Speaker 4: for two hours. When I saw that ten years later,
[28:33] Speaker 4: I had six on a Friday night and three on
[28:36] Speaker 4: every other night. So it was a lot of hard work.
[28:39] Speaker 4: But my father then who told me, said don't buy.
[28:41] Speaker 4: It's too much work for you as a single mom.
[28:44] Speaker 4: He kept saying, well, how much fish did you sell
[28:46] Speaker 4: this week? And how many sex of potatoes? Because I
[28:49] Speaker 4: made all my own chips and everything. Wow, potatoes, scallops,
[28:52] Speaker 4: one thousand potatoes, s clops a week. I'd go through that,
[28:54] Speaker 4: and you know scollops the bad way, ten saxes potatoes. Yeah,
[29:00] Speaker 4: I've got that experience, So I know what hard work
[29:03] Speaker 4: is and I like to see the rewards of your
[29:05] Speaker 4: hard work. So if you go in small business, you're
[29:07] Speaker 4: put in the hard work, you should be getting the
[29:09] Speaker 4: rewards out of that instead of the government ripping the
[29:13] Speaker 4: guts out of it and taking away from you.
[29:15] Speaker 2: All right, more from everyone here in the room, and
[29:17] Speaker 2: of course Paul and Hansen as we go around the
[29:19] Speaker 2: country also straight after the break, well, then your New
[29:22] Speaker 2: twenty four pulse, how is One Nation going in a pole?
[29:25] Speaker 2: Can you find out next? Thank you so much for watching,
[29:37] Speaker 2: as thank you very much for everyone here in the room.
[29:38] Speaker 2: We are here, we'd send it to Pauline Hanson, leader
[29:40] Speaker 2: of One Nation. Answering questions from the News twenty four audience.
[29:44] Speaker 2: Let us have a look at the very latest opinion
[29:46] Speaker 2: poll that of course coming from News twenty four. Let's
[29:50] Speaker 2: have a look at the News twenty four pulse. All right,
[29:58] Speaker 2: so every couple of weeks, you know, stand up in
[30:00] Speaker 2: front of the screen and I go through all of
[30:02] Speaker 2: the polls for you. There'll be some more details off
[30:04] Speaker 2: on the website in a second. But here is the
[30:06] Speaker 2: very latest opinion poll that comes from our friends at YUGA.
[30:10] Speaker 2: The Labor Party is remaining steady at twenty eight percent.
[30:13] Speaker 2: The Liberal Party is up to up two points at
[30:16] Speaker 2: twenty two. The Greens are up one point sadly to thirteen.
[30:20] Speaker 2: One nation is at twenty five percent, a quarter of
[30:23] Speaker 2: the Australian vote, an other is sitting at twelve So
[30:26] Speaker 2: essentially a fairly static opinion poll. In terms of the
[30:29] Speaker 2: satisfaction with the Prime minister, well fifty five percent of
[30:32] Speaker 2: the country and remains dissatisfied with the Prime minister right
[30:35] Speaker 2: now thirty seven percent remain satisfied, and when asked about multiculturalism,
[30:41] Speaker 2: forty six percent of Australians believe that it is becoming
[30:44] Speaker 2: problematic for social cohesion. I'll get to the headline number
[30:48] Speaker 2: in a second, but Pauline, that number wouldn't surprise you
[30:52] Speaker 2: that we are basically now at half of the country
[30:54] Speaker 2: believing that immigration has led to problems with social cohesion.
[31:00] Speaker 2: With that forty six percent of people according to the
[31:03] Speaker 2: News twenty four pole.
[31:04] Speaker 4: Of course I do talking to Australians. They feel disenfranchised
[31:07] Speaker 4: that this is in their country. Alban Easy started he
[31:10] Speaker 4: was the worst prime minister that we've had. He started
[31:13] Speaker 4: with the Voice to Parliament and they've done it down
[31:15] Speaker 4: in Victoria now of having you know, the Voice Deparliament.
[31:18] Speaker 4: Victoria's trans voted against it overwhelmingly, but they've disregarded that
[31:24] Speaker 4: and they're heading down this path again. They talk about
[31:26] Speaker 4: it every Australia day. You know, we shouldn't be having
[31:29] Speaker 4: it this day. It's always division all the time. Now,
[31:31] Speaker 4: we shouldn't have the Union jack on the flag. It's
[31:34] Speaker 4: all this thing that's going all the time to disenfranchise
[31:38] Speaker 4: Australians and who we are. I rather unite people, bring
[31:42] Speaker 4: us together that we are proud Australians. And it's going
[31:46] Speaker 4: to be a tough job because I have to you know,
[31:51] Speaker 4: people have to know where I stand with this. Why
[31:54] Speaker 4: do I push this about a mono culture and everything.
[31:56] Speaker 4: I think it's very important people understand multiculturally and was
[32:00] Speaker 4: started up years ago when I first got in Parliament
[32:02] Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six, and they said, look if it started
[32:06] Speaker 4: as a melting pot around the world, thinking all these
[32:08] Speaker 4: cultures get together and you know, combyr and we'ill be
[32:12] Speaker 4: really happy together in a utopian world. It doesn't work
[32:15] Speaker 4: that way, Paul. People have the different cultures, beliefs, laws
[32:19] Speaker 4: and understanding and it's like in your own house. In
[32:23] Speaker 4: your own home, you all have the same set of rules.
[32:25] Speaker 4: You know what's right, you know what's wrong. You know
[32:27] Speaker 4: what time you sit down to dinner, you know what
[32:29] Speaker 4: time you go to bed. And someone comes in and
[32:31] Speaker 4: disrupts and wants to do everything, it causes problems in
[32:34] Speaker 4: your home. Your country is no different. So if we
[32:37] Speaker 4: are all heading down the same path, we all adhere
[32:41] Speaker 4: to the same laws, the same rules of the house.
[32:44] Speaker 4: We understand who we are and we're proud to be
[32:47] Speaker 4: part of that home. That's what it's about. And that's
[32:51] Speaker 4: why multiculturalism. And I was one years ago who were
[32:54] Speaker 4: posed it. I was crucified for I had a go.
[32:57] Speaker 4: Isn't it funny? Now? Leaders around the world, world, even
[33:00] Speaker 4: John Howard has said it hasn't worked.
[33:03] Speaker 2: How do we deal with the question when it comes
[33:06] Speaker 2: to people of different faiths, but then also the extremes
[33:11] Speaker 2: of some faiths, for example, radical Islam is the absolute
[33:15] Speaker 2: antithesis of social cohesion. How do we make sure that
[33:20] Speaker 2: radical Islam does not grow in Australia.
[33:23] Speaker 4: Well, it is, it's constantly growing all the time. And
[33:26] Speaker 4: see the more and more and we're seeing that the
[33:28] Speaker 4: countries around the world, and I've just been over to England.
[33:31] Speaker 4: I've seen it on the streets there and even Denmark
[33:33] Speaker 4: now and these countries saying no, we're going to deport
[33:36] Speaker 4: these people. They're not good for our country. And so
[33:40] Speaker 4: with radical Islam, it's a political ideology that is totally
[33:45] Speaker 4: incompatible with our culture and our way of life. People
[33:49] Speaker 4: have to understand this. If you don't understand what radical
[33:52] Speaker 4: Islam is, what their beliefs is going, look at the Qur'an.
[33:55] Speaker 4: Understand what their beliefs are, and totally incompatible Sharia law is.
[34:00] Speaker 4: There can have multiple marriages, child marriages, you know, all
[34:04] Speaker 4: these covering up, the women's suppression of women, female circumcision,
[34:09] Speaker 4: all this is part of it. That is not our
[34:12] Speaker 4: way of life. They have no time for you know,
[34:15] Speaker 4: the LGB I t Q. Well, listen, mate, you won't
[34:18] Speaker 4: be roundful hong Ta get control of it because they'll
[34:20] Speaker 4: throw your buildings. Let's let's get real about this so
[34:25] Speaker 4: they can be I see, that's where our country is
[34:29] Speaker 4: going if we don't turn it around. And these emams
[34:32] Speaker 4: and these clerics should be rained in for the hate
[34:35] Speaker 4: speech on our streets. What happened at the opera house
[34:38] Speaker 4: should never have happened. After October seventh.
[34:45] Speaker 2: We've got Amanda who's joining us now to continue our
[34:48] Speaker 2: conversation here with Pauline handsOn.
[34:50] Speaker 3: Loving to see you, Amanda. What is your question for
[34:52] Speaker 3: the One Nation leader?
[34:55] Speaker 5: Well, paul Pauline, I live in Northwest Queen's Trained and
[34:59] Speaker 5: not out in the outback, and having grown up out
[35:02] Speaker 5: here in the mining town, I can see the difference
[35:05] Speaker 5: between what I grew up with and what I see now.
[35:08] Speaker 5: What could One Nation do to help regional and remote communities?
[35:13] Speaker 4: Yeah? What are you? You're at aware the iSER?
[35:22] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[35:22] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[35:22] Speaker 4: And Isai? Yeah, Well you've got the mining shutting down there,
[35:25] Speaker 4: haven't you At the moment they're going to shut it
[35:27] Speaker 4: down up there?
[35:29] Speaker 5: No, that's they shut one part of it. Yeah, yeah,
[35:33] Speaker 5: they mind copper and lead the coppers sort of running out. Yeah,
[35:39] Speaker 5: they're shutting that down. But we've got lots and lots
[35:41] Speaker 5: of minds all around, man Isser.
[35:43] Speaker 4: As long as the governments don't shut them down because
[35:46] Speaker 4: they have imposed laws and regulations, environmental protection agencies and
[35:50] Speaker 4: all the rest of it. That is actually shutting down
[35:52] Speaker 4: the mining in Queensland, or I tell you who else
[35:56] Speaker 4: this is destroying. It is David Christoph fully with these
[36:00] Speaker 4: royalties because he's actually overtaxing the minds which they're shutting down.
[36:04] Speaker 4: They're not going to go ahead. Lost of jobs. What's
[36:07] Speaker 4: happened in these areas too. You don't have the services,
[36:11] Speaker 4: so you're not getting the doctors, you're not getting age
[36:13] Speaker 4: care facilities. They're not doing that. You're having fly and
[36:17] Speaker 4: fly out doctors. That has to be addressed. I don't
[36:21] Speaker 4: know if the hospital's up there. What I think needs
[36:23] Speaker 4: to happen is instead of state government's bureaucracy dealing with
[36:28] Speaker 4: the running the hospitals, I'd like to see hospitals set
[36:31] Speaker 4: up their own hospital boards to actually spend the money
[36:35] Speaker 4: the way that they want to see it spent in
[36:37] Speaker 4: the hospital. Then they can get the right staffing, the
[36:40] Speaker 4: right facilities in that hospital. Once you get that, you're
[36:43] Speaker 4: going to get a lot more people to actually stay
[36:45] Speaker 4: in these towns. A lot of these towns are already
[36:48] Speaker 4: have lost their maternity wards. You can't have a baby
[36:51] Speaker 4: in these areas, so when you're a young family you
[36:54] Speaker 4: want to have children, they won't go these areas. You
[36:57] Speaker 4: got the age that grew up there. They want to
[36:59] Speaker 4: get out of it because snow facilities to care for them.
[37:03] Speaker 4: So this is a real big issue that we need
[37:05] Speaker 4: to deal with and that the governments are not realizing.
[37:10] Speaker 2: Well, Sam, thank you for the question, and enjoy the
[37:11] Speaker 2: year radio that's coming up of course in a couple
[37:14] Speaker 2: of weeks.
[37:15] Speaker 12: Time.
[37:15] Speaker 3: Nice to see.
[37:16] Speaker 2: Sorry Sam, I'm jumping the gun here. You've got your question.
[37:18] Speaker 3: Let's go so pulling.
[37:19] Speaker 4: My wife and I work hard.
[37:21] Speaker 6: We've got good incomes, we've brought our house, we've set
[37:24] Speaker 6: our interest rates. We're out of pocket one hundred and
[37:26] Speaker 6: eighty dollars per day for childcare despite billions of dollars
[37:29] Speaker 6: in subsidies for the sector. What will you do to
[37:32] Speaker 6: help place down with pressure on families like ours?
[37:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, extremely hard. You're not the first one I heard
[37:38] Speaker 4: in Sydney. Here alone two hundred dollars a day in
[37:41] Speaker 4: child care. I'd like to full investigation in the childcare actually,
[37:45] Speaker 4: just tell you the truth. It's costing the taxpayers sixteen
[37:48] Speaker 4: billion a year and it's something's out of control there.
[37:52] Speaker 4: That's a lot of money spent in childcare. So that's
[37:55] Speaker 4: where i'd like an investigation into it. I understand that
[37:59] Speaker 4: you're actually you're going to have to work. You and
[38:01] Speaker 4: your wife have to work to pay the mortgage and
[38:04] Speaker 4: pay the bills, just keep food on the table. Extremely hard.
[38:07] Speaker 4: But something's not right somewhere. And I'd like to have
[38:11] Speaker 4: an investigation in the cost of childcare exactly right.
[38:15] Speaker 3: I mean that number is extraordinary. Is you're talking about
[38:17] Speaker 3: about sixteen bigion.
[38:18] Speaker 4: He's you're offering another eleven percent interest for childcare workers.
[38:22] Speaker 4: So you know who's going to pay for this? Then
[38:24] Speaker 4: on top of it, like Max, they're going to chat
[38:27] Speaker 4: pay themselves. A lot of families are paying for the
[38:30] Speaker 4: childcare as well on top of that. Again, and it's
[38:33] Speaker 4: not good enough, or.
[38:34] Speaker 2: We've got another question here, Thank you very much. Yet
[38:36] Speaker 2: to everyone who's not just in the room but obviously
[38:38] Speaker 2: joining us all over the country remotely. Robin is in
[38:40] Speaker 2: Perth right now, Robin, what is your question for Pauline
[38:43] Speaker 2: Hanson sight as well?
[38:46] Speaker 5: Thank you, Pauline.
[38:47] Speaker 13: If you were the prime minister, who would be your
[38:50] Speaker 13: minister for the NDI is now that program currently costs
[38:54] Speaker 13: fifty two billion a year. How would your brain in
[38:58] Speaker 13: the program to a manageable ex venditure and still provide
[39:01] Speaker 13: still provide people with severe permanent and profound disability the
[39:05] Speaker 13: necessary care and support they need.
[39:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I totally agree with you. Who I'm going
[39:11] Speaker 4: to name now, it's not going to be it's a
[39:13] Speaker 4: big if at the moment whether I'm going to be
[39:15] Speaker 4: prime minister, all right, So I'm not going to hypothesize
[39:20] Speaker 4: on what it might be at the time who's going
[39:22] Speaker 4: to be minister. But if that be the case, I
[39:25] Speaker 4: would pick the right person for it. You know, a
[39:27] Speaker 4: lot of these people that over in portfolios have had
[39:30] Speaker 4: nothing to do with that portfolio and shouldn't be in
[39:33] Speaker 4: that portfolio. So what I've discussed already with the ndis
[39:39] Speaker 4: it's not about providing services. You've got to stop the scammers,
[39:42] Speaker 4: those people that are ripping off the system. You know,
[39:45] Speaker 4: we've got about three hundred and eleven thousand providers, only
[39:48] Speaker 4: twenty five thousand of them are actually registered, so there's
[39:52] Speaker 4: a lot of scamming that goes on. The Morrison government
[39:55] Speaker 4: used to say you put your dock, it's in by
[39:58] Speaker 4: five o'clock that afternoon, actually pay you by nine o'clock
[40:01] Speaker 4: the next morning, put the money into the bank. There
[40:04] Speaker 4: was never any full line idea of what the moneyes
[40:08] Speaker 4: were spent on to account for it, I had one
[40:12] Speaker 4: worker report it to me and six hundred and fifty
[40:16] Speaker 4: thousand a year, forty five thousand dollars were spent on
[40:20] Speaker 4: a corporate box of the footy. Moneys were spent on
[40:24] Speaker 4: flying their family out first class from America and expensive
[40:28] Speaker 4: bottles of alcohol. Didn't have to pay anything back. There
[40:34] Speaker 4: was never investigation into it, Paul, That's where we need
[40:36] Speaker 4: to start. We've got to look after those people who
[40:40] Speaker 4: need that care and attention by all means. But when
[40:43] Speaker 4: you're paying people for someone to go fishing with them,
[40:48] Speaker 4: or go to the movies with them, to hold their hand,
[40:51] Speaker 4: or go shopping with them, or they're buying cars and
[40:54] Speaker 4: the cost of the getting paid, Now, can I tell
[40:56] Speaker 4: you that you can actually pay up to one hundred
[41:00] Speaker 4: ninety five dollars Now this is government right, one hundred
[41:03] Speaker 4: and ninety five dollars an hour for the services of
[41:07] Speaker 4: someone who has a degree in something. Rather then it's
[41:10] Speaker 4: over three hundred in remote and over five hundred an
[41:13] Speaker 4: hour in very remote areas. That's been going on for years,
[41:16] Speaker 4: and I've complained about it time and time again.
[41:19] Speaker 2: Well as we've heard about before. When it comes to
[41:21] Speaker 2: some of the ruling. The authority say, literally there's not
[41:23] Speaker 2: enough time or resources even if it was the full
[41:26] Speaker 2: time job to go after the ruling, which becomes part
[41:28] Speaker 2: of the problem.
[41:29] Speaker 3: All right.
[41:29] Speaker 2: In fact, let's take it a little pause because we've
[41:31] Speaker 2: got plenty more questions, lots of more to talk about
[41:33] Speaker 2: with Pauline here live at the News twenty four headquarters.
[41:37] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for watching a very special edition
[41:38] Speaker 2: of paul Moron.
[41:41] Speaker 3: Any Day. Thank you so much for watching.
[41:50] Speaker 2: This little special experience here with Pauline Hanson taking all
[41:54] Speaker 2: of your questions.
[41:55] Speaker 3: Her passion and knowledge is pretty obvious.
[41:57] Speaker 2: Thirty years, it's all been building to what is a
[41:59] Speaker 2: pretty amazing time for you and one nation right now.
[42:03] Speaker 2: Justin where are you right here? You know, justin what's
[42:05] Speaker 2: your question for Pauline Hanson?
[42:06] Speaker 1: Thanks paul Hi, Pauline, how are you? I'm a veteran
[42:09] Speaker 1: and let me tell you that the veteran community loves you.
[42:12] Speaker 4: Thank you.
[42:13] Speaker 3: If what, what where?
[42:15] Speaker 1: What does one nation see is astrais defense capability in
[42:18] Speaker 1: twenty years time, Given the complexities that are in the
[42:20] Speaker 1: world right.
[42:20] Speaker 3: Now, what is the what's that?
[42:23] Speaker 1: Where does one nation see Australia's defense capability in twenty years, right.
[42:28] Speaker 4: We have to increase the spanning for defense, which I've
[42:30] Speaker 4: actually put out there about three point five percent. We
[42:33] Speaker 4: need two people going to say where you're going to
[42:35] Speaker 4: get that money from, but that'll be over a period
[42:37] Speaker 4: of time that we need to increase the depend spanning.
[42:40] Speaker 4: The defense personnel are very disheartened at the moment. They're
[42:44] Speaker 4: not happy been in there, and a lot of them
[42:47] Speaker 4: are there actually leaving out of a short period of
[42:49] Speaker 4: time the training that we put into them. You've got
[42:51] Speaker 4: to ask this off why that is happening. The veterans
[42:54] Speaker 4: are not looked after enough, and I've got to take
[42:57] Speaker 4: my head off to missus Ryan Hartch He's just put
[42:59] Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars into building defense housing for the veterans.
[43:03] Speaker 4: Since she's really doing the job that our government should
[43:06] Speaker 4: have been doing to look after our veterans, I'd like
[43:12] Speaker 4: to work more with. I've been on five of the
[43:15] Speaker 4: program's parliamentary programs to do with the veterans. So I've
[43:18] Speaker 4: gone over to Afghanistan with the submarines, you know them,
[43:21] Speaker 4: air force space up to towns for the base up
[43:24] Speaker 4: there as well. Plus also the bad force that I've
[43:26] Speaker 4: done to try and have a better understanding, to work
[43:29] Speaker 4: with our defense personnel, to understand from them and try
[43:32] Speaker 4: and get an idea that will continue. Because I want
[43:35] Speaker 4: to hear from the defense personnel how can we better
[43:39] Speaker 4: improve it to keep them in there and encourage more
[43:43] Speaker 4: to actually want to be in the defense because we're
[43:46] Speaker 4: going to need them. And I have so much respect
[43:48] Speaker 4: for the men and women that have put their lives
[43:50] Speaker 4: in line or put you know, go out there and
[43:53] Speaker 4: say I'm willing to defend our nation. And you know,
[43:58] Speaker 4: that's why we need to. We've got to have a
[44:01] Speaker 4: decent defense force. Because if we think Wall will never
[44:04] Speaker 4: touch our shores again in our lifetime, well I think
[44:08] Speaker 4: we're fools.
[44:09] Speaker 2: Thank Steve has got a question for you here, Pauline.
[44:12] Speaker 2: He joins us now remotely from Victoria. Steve, what is
[44:15] Speaker 2: your question for Pauline?
[44:17] Speaker 8: Good Paul and Paul Would you consider any assistance and
[44:21] Speaker 8: or support for self funded retirees?
[44:24] Speaker 4: Oh, most definitely. We've actually announced it at the last
[44:27] Speaker 4: election that your taxation level would go up to thirty
[44:31] Speaker 4: five thousand before you actually pay tax on self funded retirees. Also,
[44:40] Speaker 4: you would be able to well, it was not self
[44:43] Speaker 4: fundit retirees, but age pensioners and also veterans would be
[44:47] Speaker 4: able to work unlimited hours and would not affect their
[44:51] Speaker 4: pensions or their health care card. Just pay tax on
[44:55] Speaker 4: the work that you do, but it will not affect
[44:57] Speaker 4: and lose that So self fundit retirees, you've worked hard,
[45:01] Speaker 4: you get nothing back, even getting a healthcare card. I
[45:04] Speaker 4: think that if you've reached the aged age of retirement,
[45:08] Speaker 4: you should be given the same benefits of having that
[45:11] Speaker 4: healthcare card. At least.
[45:13] Speaker 2: Sean has got the lucky last question inside the room, Sean,
[45:16] Speaker 2: what's your questions?
[45:16] Speaker 3: Thanks? Pauline's been fantastic.
[45:18] Speaker 14: The passion and patriotism is infectious, so thank you very much.
[45:22] Speaker 14: I'd like to know, with my boys and myself, what's
[45:25] Speaker 14: one nation's plan and any incentives for young and even
[45:29] Speaker 14: more mature Australians to get a trade in this country.
[45:33] Speaker 4: Yep, I've already done that already in twenty eighteen. I
[45:37] Speaker 4: took the government then government kicking and screaming because I
[45:41] Speaker 4: spoke to both Turnbull Morrison and also Albanez who with
[45:44] Speaker 4: regards to it, and I got it up in a
[45:48] Speaker 4: apprenticeship scheme that I got there Morrison government to take up.
[45:51] Speaker 4: It was a pilot program at that time. We've got
[45:53] Speaker 4: thirteen hundred and sixty apprenticeship schemes and it was taken
[45:56] Speaker 4: up in three weeks and it was that the government
[46:00] Speaker 4: paid seventy five percent of the first year's wage, fifty
[46:03] Speaker 4: percent of the second and twenty five percent of the
[46:05] Speaker 4: thirty years wage. That was taken and I had stipulated
[46:08] Speaker 4: had to be in rural and regional areas. I want
[46:10] Speaker 4: to keep the kids in ruling regional areas rather than
[46:12] Speaker 4: go in the cities. We need those trades in the
[46:15] Speaker 4: country areas and to stay where they can get the
[46:18] Speaker 4: support from the family as well and keep the trades
[46:21] Speaker 4: in these areas. That was taken up in three weeks.
[46:24] Speaker 4: The government then proposed they would put out one hundred thousand.
[46:27] Speaker 4: That's still part of my policy. I would introduce that
[46:31] Speaker 4: again straight away. I'd like to bring in something into
[46:34] Speaker 4: the schools, like we had manual training in the school's
[46:37] Speaker 4: educational system, so kids can actually do that and give
[46:41] Speaker 4: them an opportunity to go and do a day's work
[46:43] Speaker 4: while they're still at school. In businesses who want to
[46:46] Speaker 4: give those kids an idea of how it is on
[46:49] Speaker 4: the tools or working in some of these businesses.
[46:52] Speaker 14: In the rural areas. That's kind of what they do
[46:54] Speaker 14: where we are. I'm like, we're in Bathist and they
[46:56] Speaker 14: do like work experience. The kids come out of school
[46:58] Speaker 14: and they're actually trying to push into the schools as
[47:00] Speaker 14: part of the curriculum too, so it's really awesome.
[47:03] Speaker 4: Kids won't be told how to fill out a well
[47:07] Speaker 4: a central link to be told how to go and
[47:10] Speaker 4: apply for a job.
[47:11] Speaker 2: Well, thanks for coming in from Bathostball. Do you again
[47:13] Speaker 2: later on here for an ourtown. I m my Instagram
[47:15] Speaker 2: for a week because there's some sporting event that.
[47:18] Speaker 3: How does it luckily end up in the same place
[47:19] Speaker 3: at the same time getting in front of some cows.
[47:22] Speaker 2: Vanessa has got our final question of the night.
[47:24] Speaker 3: She joins us.
[47:25] Speaker 2: Now I believe in the sunny coast in magnificent Queensland.
[47:28] Speaker 2: Kiss the ground for est in Queensland. Vanessa, what's your question?
[47:31] Speaker 12: Thank you Paul, Thanks Coulleen, thanks for having me. My
[47:35] Speaker 12: question is with regards to the preferential system. The current
[47:38] Speaker 12: government received less than one third of the vote. Yes,
[47:41] Speaker 12: it holds more than two thirds of the seats in parliament.
[47:45] Speaker 12: Would you look at amending our system to look at
[47:48] Speaker 12: first past the post, look at adding a section on
[47:51] Speaker 12: the ballot box so that it's very clear where the
[47:53] Speaker 12: preference vote is going to.
[47:56] Speaker 4: Well, actually tell you truth, I believe in the optional
[47:58] Speaker 4: preferential voting system. You don't have to fill out the
[48:01] Speaker 4: whole ticket. You can vote one or two or whatever
[48:03] Speaker 4: you want to, or just put one only. The preferential
[48:07] Speaker 4: voting system was changed in nineteen ninety eight by the
[48:09] Speaker 4: Howard government, support it by all the other political parties
[48:12] Speaker 4: to stop one nation. That's why it was brought in.
[48:16] Speaker 4: I'd rather educate the people, teach the kids in school
[48:19] Speaker 4: how the preference system works. Too many Australians don't understand it.
[48:24] Speaker 4: And you know, the preference system is only a recommendation
[48:27] Speaker 4: by the political parties on the how to vote cards.
[48:30] Speaker 4: When you come to vote, you look at who's on
[48:33] Speaker 4: the ticket, You work out who's the best one to
[48:36] Speaker 4: represent you. You put them as number one. Then you think,
[48:38] Speaker 4: if they don't get up, who's your next best vote
[48:40] Speaker 4: that's number two, and you go down your ballot paper
[48:43] Speaker 4: like that. Remember if your number one doesn't get up,
[48:46] Speaker 4: your preference will float to your number two if they
[48:48] Speaker 4: don't get up, it will flow to you. Number three.
[48:50] Speaker 4: That's order of your preference. If you do this with
[48:53] Speaker 4: preference system and first pass the post, you know what
[48:57] Speaker 4: the political parties will do. They just throw in a
[48:59] Speaker 4: heap number of people. Twenty people. Guess what someone could
[49:04] Speaker 4: win that election with only ten or twelve percent of
[49:06] Speaker 4: the vote. Think about it, good point, first past the post.
[49:10] Speaker 4: So no, and I wouldn't trust them.
[49:12] Speaker 3: As far as I could throw them good stuff. Everyone's
[49:15] Speaker 3: pulling handsons. Thank you, worry buck sets and you said
[49:18] Speaker 3: about always lovely to see you.
[49:20] Speaker 2: Thanks for being in here.
[49:21] Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who's in the studio. Thank you
[49:23] Speaker 3: to everyone at home. What's the use? Twenty four? Here
[49:25] Speaker 3: is the late debate see tomorrow

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