# Paul Murray Live | 9 July

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 9 Jul 2026, 51 min.

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Pauline Hanson answers your questions, Sydney's rents hit record highs thanks to Labor's budget. Plus, another Telco outage puts Aussie lives at risk with compensation not guaranteed. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the sky new setter. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:06] Speaker 1: Thank you. James Nosook's no Left East tonight just hit
[0:08] Speaker 1: an aperjip A Price, our special guest. We finished with
[0:11] Speaker 1: a smile with Colin Flynn and there's a lot to
[0:12] Speaker 1: get to between now and then, including the response has
[0:15] Speaker 1: been mega, perhaps the biggest we've ever had to the
[0:19] Speaker 1: opportunity for you to ask questions of a political leader.
[0:22] Speaker 1: Now we've done this many times before with Prime minister's
[0:24] Speaker 1: opposition leaders. Well coming up is Paul and Hanson, please explain,
[0:30] Speaker 1: and that is going to be taking place on Tuesday,
[0:33] Speaker 1: the twenty eighth of July. Skye has becomes News twenty
[0:36] Speaker 1: four on the twenty seventh. This is on the twenty eighth.
[0:39] Speaker 1: If you have questions from around the country, and we
[0:41] Speaker 1: have literally got hundreds and hundreds, but we are trying
[0:44] Speaker 1: to get from locations okay, so we're still wading through.
[0:49] Speaker 1: But if you're in Tasmania, if you're in country Western Australia,
[0:52] Speaker 1: if you've got a chance to give us your message
[0:54] Speaker 1: from Kangaroo Island, we want to cover the whole country, Okay,
[0:57] Speaker 1: So don't assume somebody else is asking a quest question,
[1:00] Speaker 1: have you got a question for Pauline Hanson? Might even
[1:03] Speaker 1: be about the Tommy Robinson stuff that's around today. We'll
[1:06] Speaker 1: obviously discuss that at a moment or two time. Plans
[1:08] Speaker 1: for the country, all the rest of a pub test
[1:11] Speaker 1: skynews dot com dot au. It's a couple of weeks away,
[1:13] Speaker 1: but we want to make sure that everyone who wants
[1:16] Speaker 1: to get in has a chance for us to be
[1:18] Speaker 1: able to work out how to do that. Now. You
[1:22] Speaker 1: may remember, of course, the budget a couple of months ago,
[1:24] Speaker 1: the one they don't want you to talk about, where,
[1:26] Speaker 1: of course the lies became law. And that's where we
[1:29] Speaker 1: sit right now with that budget. It still remains as
[1:31] Speaker 1: unpopular as the day was first announced, but they say
[1:34] Speaker 1: we've all moved on. We'll all forgive them now, as
[1:36] Speaker 1: you know, right at the heart of all of this
[1:38] Speaker 1: few problems when it comes to the housing industry. Now
[1:43] Speaker 1: remember at the time the changes that essentially reduced the
[1:47] Speaker 1: number of people who are able to buy a property
[1:49] Speaker 1: as an investment, ie to be able to rent it out. Well,
[1:54] Speaker 1: unsurprisingly that's become a problem. The three interest rate rises
[1:58] Speaker 1: which have taken place so far this year, two of
[2:01] Speaker 1: which had nothing to do with Iran. Remember, well, of
[2:04] Speaker 1: course all of that has made it more expensive for
[2:06] Speaker 1: anyone that is paying off a house that you are
[2:08] Speaker 1: renting out to someone. But the government has often said
[2:15] Speaker 1: now there will not be an increase in rents. There
[2:16] Speaker 1: will not be an increase in rents, certainly not as
[2:19] Speaker 1: a result of anything in the budget, despite the fact
[2:21] Speaker 1: that of course everyone bar the current crop of MPs
[2:24] Speaker 1: have got an investment property. Future generations will not be
[2:28] Speaker 1: able to do it, because that's really terrible and evil, right,
[2:32] Speaker 1: And she was confronted on Sunrise just after the budget
[2:37] Speaker 1: when the viewers of that program were riding into the
[2:39] Speaker 1: program already explaining how the interest rates had started to
[2:43] Speaker 1: increase the rents that they were paying. But Claire O'Neil,
[2:47] Speaker 1: armed only with a talking point, said that's not really happening.
[2:53] Speaker 2: Overall, the pressure on rents will actually be downwards. That's
[2:57] Speaker 2: because we're building more homes and rent prices are set
[3:01] Speaker 2: based on how many rental properties we have and how
[3:04] Speaker 2: many people are in the market.
[3:06] Speaker 1: It's set by the government, they're set by the people
[3:09] Speaker 1: who are trying to pay off the house so somebody
[3:12] Speaker 1: can rent it out. And yes, the negative gearing system,
[3:16] Speaker 1: the difference between the amount you get from rent versus
[3:18] Speaker 1: the amount you're paying when it comes to the mortgage. Yeah,
[3:21] Speaker 1: it works out at the end of each financial year.
[3:23] Speaker 1: But if you don't have the money for that gap,
[3:25] Speaker 1: guess what you have to increase the rents? Well, guess
[3:29] Speaker 1: what we learn about today that unsurprisingly Labor lied about
[3:33] Speaker 1: another thing when it comes to their housing policy, another
[3:36] Speaker 1: thing when it comes to their budget. Because rents are
[3:40] Speaker 1: going up Sydney Morney Hall says that it is grossly unaffordable.
[3:48] Speaker 1: Sydney rents are hitting record highs. The media and asking
[3:51] Speaker 1: rent for a Sydney house has gone up by six
[3:54] Speaker 1: point three percent or fifty bucks. Now, remember the best
[3:57] Speaker 1: case scenario out of Treasury was what two dollars fifty
[4:00] Speaker 1: dollars And that's just in the first couple of months
[4:03] Speaker 1: of this mess. The lives become law, they say, we
[4:06] Speaker 1: don't remember. If you're living in the rental market, you're
[4:08] Speaker 1: living with the consequences of this government. A report has
[4:13] Speaker 1: been put together called the Domain Rent Report. It's been
[4:16] Speaker 1: released today and it shows the strongest quarterly increase in
[4:20] Speaker 1: not one, not two, but four years. House rents are
[4:23] Speaker 1: up seven point six percent or sixty dollars compared year
[4:28] Speaker 1: on year. Now have a look remember Treasury modeling Housing
[4:32] Speaker 1: Minister two percent. In fact, all rents will start to
[4:36] Speaker 1: go down. Well, somebody might want to have a look
[4:38] Speaker 1: at this, because if you are renting a house in
[4:40] Speaker 1: the capital cities of Australia, rents have gone up year
[4:45] Speaker 1: on year. Last year in Sydney was seven hundred and
[4:48] Speaker 1: ninety dollars now eight hundred and fifty. In Brisbane, six
[4:52] Speaker 1: fifty becomes seven hundred. In Perth seven hundred becomes seven fifty.
[4:58] Speaker 1: Six point eighty in Darwin has been come seven sixty
[5:01] Speaker 1: in Darwin. In Hobart five hundred and eighty has become
[5:04] Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty five. All of those are increases,
[5:08] Speaker 1: and even the small and moderate ones like Melbourne, that's
[5:11] Speaker 1: not two dollars, that's ten dollars. In Adelaide that's not
[5:14] Speaker 1: two dollars. That's thirty dollars. In Canberra that's twenty dollars,
[5:19] Speaker 1: not two dollars. So I am so sick and tired
[5:23] Speaker 1: of these people just lying about the reality of the
[5:27] Speaker 1: circumstances under which we live. There are not enough homes
[5:32] Speaker 1: being built as I showed you last night, there's been
[5:34] Speaker 1: an eleven percent reduction in the past three months about
[5:38] Speaker 1: the number of new things that are being built. Yet
[5:42] Speaker 1: there has not been an eleven percent reduction in immigration alone.
[5:47] Speaker 1: That's still at three hundred thousand people in the past
[5:49] Speaker 1: twelve months. In the past three months, it's only about
[5:52] Speaker 1: fifty thousand homes that have been built. So even if
[5:56] Speaker 1: all of those quarters, that doesn't add up to three hundred,
[5:59] Speaker 1: it adds up to two hundred thousand new potential properties
[6:03] Speaker 1: in a twelve month period. Now it's not just houses,
[6:07] Speaker 1: its units as well. Again, the ballface lie. These people
[6:13] Speaker 1: tell that one of the reasons why rent goes up
[6:16] Speaker 1: is because interest rates go up, and interest rates have
[6:18] Speaker 1: gone up two out of three times. Nothing to do
[6:21] Speaker 1: with the run, everything to do with the way this
[6:24] Speaker 1: mob is running the joint. Well, you can see it
[6:27] Speaker 1: ain't two bucks in Sydney, fifty dollars, Melbourne twenty five,
[6:34] Speaker 1: Brisbane thirty, Adelaide twenty, Perth fifty ten bucks in Canberra,
[6:42] Speaker 1: one hundred dollars, one hundred dollars rent increase in Darwin
[6:48] Speaker 1: and four eighty three has become five to twenty in Hobart. Again,
[6:52] Speaker 1: the reason I bang on about this is not for
[6:54] Speaker 1: its political consequence, but because I want someone somewhere who
[6:59] Speaker 1: is suffering at the moment of the great uncertainty of
[7:02] Speaker 1: a finding a place to rent and the great nervousness
[7:06] Speaker 1: of being able to afford a place to rent, that
[7:08] Speaker 1: someone sees the problem that you are in. Now there's
[7:12] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of reasons why. It's not just UNI
[7:16] Speaker 1: students that are renting, it's families that are renting. It
[7:20] Speaker 1: is families that cannot afford to do it. And I'm
[7:22] Speaker 1: not even talking about the people who've lost a partner,
[7:26] Speaker 1: have broken up, who are living by themselves. I'm not
[7:29] Speaker 1: talking about the people who have had to move from
[7:32] Speaker 1: one house and downside. It's all of it and these
[7:35] Speaker 1: people again, I'm going to play it to you one
[7:37] Speaker 1: more time. The government has actively in order to win
[7:43] Speaker 1: politics of people under the age of fifty, even though
[7:46] Speaker 1: the actual problem with buying a house not the number
[7:49] Speaker 1: of people putting their hand up at the auction, it's
[7:51] Speaker 1: your capacity to get the deposit, even the five percent deposit.
[7:57] Speaker 1: Because the reality is when cost of living is of
[8:00] Speaker 1: the roof, when rent keeps going up, when they increase
[8:02] Speaker 1: petrol taxes. All of it makes it harder to save
[8:05] Speaker 1: a dollar a littlone, five little and one hundred littlone
[8:08] Speaker 1: a thousand dollars from what you earn each and every month.
[8:13] Speaker 1: But what did she say again? And there's a reason
[8:15] Speaker 1: I call a clueless Claire O'Neal fantastic media performer. They say,
[8:20] Speaker 1: because the talking points are tattooed on the back of
[8:22] Speaker 1: the eyelids. But anyone actually paying attention knows the truth
[8:26] Speaker 1: of the story is not her yapping, it's the people
[8:29] Speaker 1: who rope to Sunrise a few weeks ago.
[8:33] Speaker 2: Overall, the pressure on rents will actually be downwards. That's
[8:37] Speaker 2: because we're building more homes and rental prices are set
[8:40] Speaker 2: based on how many rental properties we have and how
[8:43] Speaker 2: many people are in the market.
[8:47] Speaker 1: These people, seriously, these people, they're so impressed for themselves,
[8:50] Speaker 1: impressed with their talking point. And remember they believe now
[8:53] Speaker 1: that the lies have become law, everyone will just forget, unless,
[8:57] Speaker 1: of course, you're one of the third of the country
[8:59] Speaker 1: that's currently renting to keep a roof over your head. Now,
[9:04] Speaker 1: let's talk about Telstra. Telstra is into its second day
[9:08] Speaker 1: of problems. We learned that another software problem was around today.
[9:13] Speaker 1: It caused, of course, very significant issues right around the country.
[9:17] Speaker 1: The Optus outage, well, it had about six hundred calls
[9:20] Speaker 1: that didn't make it through to Triple Oh and guess
[9:22] Speaker 1: what's happened. Six hundred calls haven't made it through to
[9:25] Speaker 1: Triple O. Now Telstra might be a much bigger company,
[9:28] Speaker 1: a much better lobbying company, a company with much better
[9:31] Speaker 1: connections into Camber, but essentially we are talking about something
[9:34] Speaker 1: that is exactly the same problem, even though we were told,
[9:37] Speaker 1: of course by the Communications Minister that all of that
[9:40] Speaker 1: had changed. Now remember the TRIPLEO guardian who was supposed
[9:45] Speaker 1: to be there before Optus was put in after Optus.
[9:49] Speaker 1: Yet exactly the same number of people haven't made it
[9:52] Speaker 1: through to Triple O. But I thought this minister knew
[9:54] Speaker 1: everything that she was doing. Right, of course not. But
[9:58] Speaker 1: the difference in Australia is those of us paying attention
[10:01] Speaker 1: versus those that are just not or being lied to,
[10:04] Speaker 1: or half paying attention or barely reading the headline. You
[10:08] Speaker 1: know the consequences for people when they lose their telecommunications. Well,
[10:15] Speaker 1: you can do better, tell Strum and I'm sure you're
[10:18] Speaker 1: going to compensate all the small businesses for their lack
[10:21] Speaker 1: of sales.
[10:21] Speaker 2: This morning, you meant to pick up our car from
[10:23] Speaker 2: the mechanic, and we didn't know that they were going
[10:25] Speaker 2: to bring us.
[10:26] Speaker 3: All night, I had no signal, I couldn't ring anyone looking.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Up the World Cup scores came low. The score Okay,
[10:34] Speaker 1: not everyone in the life and death situation, but you
[10:36] Speaker 1: get the point, right, We're so reliant on it, right.
[10:39] Speaker 1: Reality is technology in twenty twenty six is like electricity,
[10:42] Speaker 1: is like water in terms of how we interact with
[10:44] Speaker 1: the rest of the walk. Can we all live without
[10:45] Speaker 1: the Internet for a couple of hours, yes, of course.
[10:48] Speaker 1: So okay, if the mobile phone doesn't ring for a sure,
[10:50] Speaker 1: But when the TRIPLEO system's in trouble, And by the way,
[10:53] Speaker 1: remember what Trevor Long told you last night, which was,
[10:56] Speaker 1: even though you hit triple lo O and you don't
[11:00] Speaker 1: hear a ring stick with it because it might take
[11:02] Speaker 1: sort of thirty seconds or a minute for it to
[11:04] Speaker 1: be rerouted to another system. Okay, but six hundred calls
[11:07] Speaker 1: of course didn't end up getting made. Well, the reality
[11:11] Speaker 1: is it's not just one, it's two, and it's two
[11:13] Speaker 1: within the space of two days. The Telstra chief is
[11:18] Speaker 1: desperately hoping that the CEO returns from holiday sooner rather
[11:22] Speaker 1: than later. I know she's apparently on her way back,
[11:24] Speaker 1: but last time I checked, even the longest flight in
[11:26] Speaker 1: the world is only twenty four hours. But here we go.
[11:30] Speaker 4: Last night we identified a subsequent issue that was impacting
[11:33] Speaker 4: some calls, including Triple zero, and the nature of this
[11:37] Speaker 4: only became apparent as we resolved the original issue. In
[11:42] Speaker 4: these cases, when calling Triple zero, some people received an
[11:46] Speaker 4: error message and then their phone would go and try
[11:49] Speaker 4: to connect to an alternative mobile network, as it should.
[11:53] Speaker 4: The issue was a consequence of the same software defect
[11:56] Speaker 4: that I talked to you about yesterday.
[11:58] Speaker 1: Problem is, of course the credit of Telstra that they
[12:01] Speaker 1: spoke with absolutes yesterday that it was fixed by this
[12:04] Speaker 1: time last night. It was all in the rear view mirror,
[12:06] Speaker 1: only for the repeat again to take place today. Now
[12:09] Speaker 1: there will be a change of face to the person
[12:10] Speaker 1: who's going to be up there and speaking. He's the
[12:12] Speaker 1: chief financial officer of the highest ranking person who can
[12:15] Speaker 1: speak in the country. Apparently this CEO coming back, as
[12:17] Speaker 1: I mentioned, from holiday, but we've also got to come
[12:21] Speaker 1: up with a new system here where clearly this triple
[12:23] Speaker 1: o mbardsman rubbish was a distraction. It was the government.
[12:26] Speaker 1: Remember how hard they went against Optus old or didn't
[12:29] Speaker 1: go waving. They're not doing it about Telstra. She I
[12:31] Speaker 1: wonder why. But we're in a scenario now where clearly
[12:37] Speaker 1: the consequences of losing telecommunications leads to business is not
[12:41] Speaker 1: being able to do basic functions Like there was a
[12:45] Speaker 1: barber who was in and around yesterday, so I cut
[12:48] Speaker 1: someone's hair and then tap and go, tap and go
[12:50] Speaker 1: didn't go because people don't have cash. This government trying
[12:53] Speaker 1: to get rid of cash. As soon as the system
[12:55] Speaker 1: doesn't work, then basically the whole thing grinds to a halt.
[12:58] Speaker 1: So now the conversation is compensation. Now, remember the farce
[13:03] Speaker 1: when this happened with Optus was that they turned around
[13:06] Speaker 1: and said, oh, we're going to give away gigs of
[13:08] Speaker 1: free data next month, when the reality was the extreme
[13:12] Speaker 1: majority of people don't even use the total allocation of
[13:16] Speaker 1: data that you have available on something like your mobile phone.
[13:20] Speaker 1: So now the question is starting to kick in for Telstra,
[13:22] Speaker 1: which is okay, your problem, but it costs me. Do
[13:28] Speaker 1: I still have to pay the full amount for the
[13:29] Speaker 1: bill this month.
[13:33] Speaker 5: It will be compensated.
[13:34] Speaker 4: Guy will work through compensation as part of our BAU
[13:38] Speaker 4: process and we'll communicate with customers around that.
[13:40] Speaker 1: All right, here's the suggestion. Even though this is a
[13:43] Speaker 1: listed company, even though this is a company where this
[13:46] Speaker 1: decision would cost a significant amount of money, here's how
[13:49] Speaker 1: this should work. If there is an event like this,
[13:53] Speaker 1: then simply tell people that they will only have to
[13:57] Speaker 1: pay half of their next month's bill. Not free data,
[14:04] Speaker 1: not free calls, not ten thousand in tel extra points
[14:07] Speaker 1: that you'll never claim, even if it costs a small
[14:13] Speaker 1: amount of money. The rule should now be, and it
[14:16] Speaker 1: shouldn't even be a rule, it should be the industry
[14:18] Speaker 1: standard that compensation is built into this. Now again, will
[14:23] Speaker 1: they be able to replace every dollar that every business
[14:26] Speaker 1: wasn't able to make due to technology not being able
[14:29] Speaker 1: to connect them with their customers. No, in certain situations,
[14:34] Speaker 1: yes they should. In the same way, when the power
[14:35] Speaker 1: goes out, you can claim the food. There's going to
[14:37] Speaker 1: be some scenarios where it's going to have to be
[14:39] Speaker 1: dollar for dollar, But the act of goodwill with the
[14:42] Speaker 1: customers of Australia, because remember while there's a big private
[14:46] Speaker 1: company now, it was the taxpayers of Australia that built
[14:49] Speaker 1: the technical dominance of Telstra way back in the telecom days,
[14:53] Speaker 1: which is why the brand loyalty exists to that business,
[14:56] Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The automatic position is
[15:00] Speaker 1: when the system glitches like this, because systems will glitch. Okay,
[15:04] Speaker 1: I wish it was perfect, but alas machines aren't. Humans
[15:08] Speaker 1: aren't okay, so something breaks. That's the way the world works, right.
[15:12] Speaker 1: But rather than saying, you know what, look over here
[15:15] Speaker 1: and we will just charge you the same amount next month,
[15:19] Speaker 1: just automatically announced there's a twenty percent reduction in everyone's
[15:22] Speaker 1: bill next month. How hard is this? But of course
[15:26] Speaker 1: it's easy for me to say, because it's not my money.
[15:27] Speaker 1: I don't known Tellstra shares your thoughts, Paul, it's gonews
[15:30] Speaker 1: dot com dot au. Couple of things I want to
[15:33] Speaker 1: mention before we get to just sit an Amber Juba
[15:35] Speaker 1: Price tonight. And there's an awful lot to talk about
[15:37] Speaker 1: with her. The FIFA boss. This is the bloke who
[15:42] Speaker 1: he is, of course, the one who is sort of
[15:44] Speaker 1: chief diplomat for FIFA. The absurdity of how desperately he's
[15:51] Speaker 1: trying to impress Donald Trump. And you know, I like Trump,
[15:53] Speaker 1: but come on, the FIFA Peace Prize, the absurdity that
[15:59] Speaker 1: a red card was suspended because they didn't want to
[16:03] Speaker 1: displace the president after the president had a problem. I mean,
[16:05] Speaker 1: this was ridiculous. You remember the app right.
[16:09] Speaker 6: I don't think this is about Donald Trump.
[16:10] Speaker 1: I think it's about FIFA. You shouldn't have any saying that.
[16:15] Speaker 1: And it's a FIFA decision.
[16:18] Speaker 3: It is really one phone call that led to such
[16:22] Speaker 3: an incomprehensible decision that would.
[16:25] Speaker 7: Be a flagrant bridge after the most basic rules of
[16:30] Speaker 7: football and sports.
[16:31] Speaker 1: I think it's up. The sportsmanship of this game is
[16:36] Speaker 1: in question.
[16:36] Speaker 8: Here has left a butt taste in a lot of
[16:39] Speaker 8: people's mouth up as it should.
[16:40] Speaker 9: Where does his end? Now do we appeal if a
[16:43] Speaker 9: yellow card is not a yellow card? Do we think
[16:45] Speaker 9: it's ano a red card? Or who thinks that? Where
[16:47] Speaker 9: does it start and where does his end?
[16:49] Speaker 10: Sportsmanship is in question at the Football World Cup.
[16:51] Speaker 11: This is just a huge shark rippling across the soccer
[16:54] Speaker 11: world right now.
[16:54] Speaker 12: This political interference that we say allotting football, that we
[16:57] Speaker 12: say a lot in the Olympic sports is now seeping
[17:00] Speaker 12: onto the field of play, and I think that's why
[17:04] Speaker 12: there's such an alarming response.
[17:07] Speaker 1: And rightly so. Again you could be pro Trumpet. This
[17:09] Speaker 1: one is clearly too much right, And it's one thing
[17:13] Speaker 1: for him to ask, it's another thing for FIFA to
[17:15] Speaker 1: have done it well. The boss of FIFA is now
[17:17] Speaker 1: in trouble with the IOC because FIFA representing the sport
[17:22] Speaker 1: of football is no different than the people who represent
[17:25] Speaker 1: swimming or athletics. And apparently there's a chance that the
[17:28] Speaker 1: International Olympic Committee is going to offer some sort of sanction.
[17:32] Speaker 1: They're hardly going to ban, by the way, football coming
[17:35] Speaker 1: up of the Los Angeles Games. But whether he gets
[17:38] Speaker 1: to still remain the head of the organization, because they're
[17:41] Speaker 1: sort of essentially is because each other will all wait
[17:43] Speaker 1: and see together. But remember, while the IOC may just
[17:47] Speaker 1: want to do a little bit of virtue signaling here
[17:49] Speaker 1: and tut tut, these are the same people who just yesterday,
[17:53] Speaker 1: just yesterday, lifted the ban on Russia being able to
[17:58] Speaker 1: send its athletes to the Winter Olympics and then the
[18:02] Speaker 1: Summer Games in twenty twenty eight. Even though they're still
[18:07] Speaker 1: invaded and fighting, currently losing in Ukraine, and of course
[18:11] Speaker 1: the systematic doping system. Yet they're gonna sit in judgment
[18:15] Speaker 1: of the god anyway. Don't you love the way this
[18:17] Speaker 1: is sort of kettle meat pot pot meat kettle also
[18:23] Speaker 1: worth mentioning too new of course won the State of Origin.
[18:26] Speaker 1: So I wonder if anyone may have seen that last
[18:28] Speaker 1: night and maybe missed our program. It's okay. You can
[18:30] Speaker 1: always get the podcast. You can always get the highlights
[18:32] Speaker 1: at skynews dot com dot au. Thumper, I'll be honest
[18:37] Speaker 1: with you, I thought Quensan was going to win thirteen
[18:38] Speaker 1: plus instead exactly the opposite, right where they didn't just
[18:42] Speaker 1: win the game, they ended up winning the title, they
[18:44] Speaker 1: ended up wearing the series.
[18:48] Speaker 7: Well.
[18:48] Speaker 1: Of course, the man who had been somewhat maligned in
[18:52] Speaker 1: the lead up to this particular game was Lori Daily.
[18:56] Speaker 1: Now Lori Daily was an absolute legend of Newsipbil's bi league,
[19:00] Speaker 1: of course, an absolute legend of clubland in Canberra. He's
[19:04] Speaker 1: been an endless and passionate advocate for the game. And
[19:08] Speaker 1: I'm so pleased that if this is the end of
[19:10] Speaker 1: his Origin coaching career, it ends on a high and
[19:13] Speaker 1: it ends the way it should. But obviously those that
[19:16] Speaker 1: have been having a go they got well, they triggered
[19:19] Speaker 1: something because it galvanized the team and galvanized them around
[19:23] Speaker 1: their leader.
[19:24] Speaker 13: And I don't mind any criticism about team selections or
[19:30] Speaker 13: criticism about any changes that you make.
[19:33] Speaker 1: That's all part of the game. But you know, there's times.
[19:36] Speaker 13: There when you think some things are quite personal, and
[19:40] Speaker 13: I just don't think there's a need to do that.
[19:42] Speaker 13: And I think that says a lot about those people
[19:43] Speaker 13: that report that way.
[19:46] Speaker 1: About league. Now, as you know, the little side hustle
[19:50] Speaker 1: for me at the moment is talking about motor sport.
[19:52] Speaker 1: And yes, sometimes people can be too thin skinned when
[19:55] Speaker 1: they get a level of criticism, but some of the
[19:58] Speaker 1: criticism that was Aboutlaurie Daily was needlessly personal to me.
[20:02] Speaker 1: I think he's right up there to be honest to me,
[20:04] Speaker 1: good enough to be an immortal. But he's right up there.
[20:07] Speaker 1: If he doesn't make that particular stature, he deserves the win.
[20:12] Speaker 1: I'm pleased he got the win, and the players they
[20:14] Speaker 1: won in part because of their coach.
[20:17] Speaker 7: I'm sorry for Laurie, honestly, I'm so grateful that he
[20:20] Speaker 7: back to me and just a belief. He hard to
[20:22] Speaker 7: instilled it within all of us. And you know a
[20:24] Speaker 7: lot of people write him off, and you know I
[20:26] Speaker 7: said a lot of negative things about him, but he's
[20:27] Speaker 7: absolute champion in New South Wales and he never write
[20:30] Speaker 7: off champions.
[20:30] Speaker 1: That's say for laws. Because everything he was instilled in us,
[20:33] Speaker 1: all the belief, all the trustee gave us, we managed
[20:35] Speaker 1: to do it under the most pressure on the biggest
[20:36] Speaker 1: stage up up here at sun Court. Good stuff. Now
[20:40] Speaker 1: about American politics, obviously, November is the mid term elections.
[20:44] Speaker 1: That's going to be the start of the handbreak that
[20:46] Speaker 1: goes on the Trump administration because the expectation is Democrats
[20:49] Speaker 1: win one of the three things you need to run
[20:51] Speaker 1: the country, that being the House of Representatives, question mark
[20:54] Speaker 1: over the Senate, but probably not at this stage. And then,
[20:57] Speaker 1: of course twenty seven is the opening conversation about who
[21:00] Speaker 1: replaces Donald Trump in two thousand and twenty eight's election. Yeah,
[21:05] Speaker 1: it moves that fast. Now, the assumption is that on
[21:08] Speaker 1: the Republican side of things, the Vice President JD. Vance,
[21:11] Speaker 1: he would most likely become the Republican nominee, the one
[21:14] Speaker 1: most likely to replace Donald Trump. At the top of
[21:17] Speaker 1: the Republican ticket. The man next to him Marco Rubio,
[21:20] Speaker 1: the current Secretary of State. I personally think he would
[21:23] Speaker 1: be great at the top of the ticket, but most
[21:24] Speaker 1: likely would end up being JD. Vance's vice presidential candidate,
[21:28] Speaker 1: but on the Democrat side of things. And remember, one
[21:31] Speaker 1: president is always a response to the previous president. So
[21:34] Speaker 1: remember after Clinton, we got Bush. After Bush, we got Obama.
[21:38] Speaker 1: After Obama we got Trump. After Trump, we got Biden,
[21:41] Speaker 1: and after Biden we got Trump again. So the chance
[21:44] Speaker 1: of it being a Democrat pretty likely, and probably a
[21:47] Speaker 1: fairly lefty one too, because that's the energy that's inside
[21:50] Speaker 1: their party which brings us to not Gavin Newsom, not
[21:54] Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, and not AOC but maybe Bernie Sanders. Mark
[21:59] Speaker 1: Halper is a journalist who covers American politics, and I
[22:04] Speaker 1: find his insights fascinating, So I wanted to pass this
[22:07] Speaker 1: on to you As to the case for Bernie in
[22:10] Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, I don't think it'd be eighty something,
[22:12] Speaker 1: but it'll just be three blocks in their eighties in
[22:15] Speaker 1: a row.
[22:16] Speaker 5: I really do think the socialist wing, the progressive wing
[22:20] Speaker 5: of the party is ascendant, and as you've heard me
[22:24] Speaker 5: say before, Sanders would have been the nominee in sixteen.
[22:26] Speaker 1: Had he not been cheated out of it.
[22:28] Speaker 5: He would have been the nominee in twenty if the
[22:29] Speaker 5: establishment hadn't mobilized. I really do believe that wing of
[22:35] Speaker 5: the party is going to be nominated. The biggest barrier
[22:39] Speaker 5: is age. Okay, but he is the leader of the
[22:43] Speaker 5: socialist movement. He's an experienced presidential candidate, and even though
[22:46] Speaker 5: he's kind of played down the prospect of running, I
[22:49] Speaker 5: really do believe his strength is big that I ask
[22:55] Speaker 5: people all the time, who tell me take Sanders off
[22:57] Speaker 5: the list. He's too old, I say, tell me his
[23:00] Speaker 5: second biggest weakness for winning the nomination.
[23:04] Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
[23:04] Speaker 5: He'll raise money, he's got namid, he's strong in the
[23:07] Speaker 5: early steeds. He knows how to run for president.
[23:11] Speaker 1: I like him. Good insights. All right, let's get to
[23:13] Speaker 1: speaking of none other than the wonderful You're sent an amber.
[23:15] Speaker 1: Jimper Price, so joining us right now, the Cenator, of course,
[23:18] Speaker 1: from the Northern Territory. And by the look of the background,
[23:20] Speaker 1: she's back in Alice right now, our favorite grandma. And
[23:22] Speaker 1: I say that with all the love in the world.
[23:24] Speaker 1: You know that, my friend? All right, now, what about
[23:28] Speaker 1: earlier in this week there was this little story that
[23:30] Speaker 1: came up. I was, I think the only one who
[23:31] Speaker 1: really talked about it on TV. You've picked it up
[23:33] Speaker 1: and noticed it, though, Which is this outrageousness that's coming
[23:37] Speaker 1: from the public sect though? Right, the public sector and
[23:40] Speaker 1: the federal public service they want a four day work week,
[23:43] Speaker 1: but not for less money. They want to pay increase, right,
[23:46] Speaker 1: they want from memory fifteen percent increase for less work.
[23:52] Speaker 1: While the good people of Australia, of course, the only
[23:54] Speaker 1: way they get to pay rice is to work harder
[23:55] Speaker 1: and longer. Welcome to Albo's Australia.
[24:00] Speaker 11: Yeah, completely and utterly out of whack. And I mean
[24:04] Speaker 11: that's what this government is all about. Right, We've got
[24:06] Speaker 11: a Prime minister who is basically about growing the public sector,
[24:12] Speaker 11: which is diminishing the private sector and failing to invest
[24:16] Speaker 11: further into the private sector. So you know, while under
[24:21] Speaker 11: Labor the government has got bigger, Australians have got poorer
[24:27] Speaker 11: as a result. I mean, I think it's such a
[24:31] Speaker 11: devastating time for those of the public sector to be
[24:35] Speaker 11: asking for I mean, seriously, productivity is already going backwards
[24:41] Speaker 11: in our country and they want it to go further backward.
[24:45] Speaker 11: And you know, the services, the government services that are
[24:49] Speaker 11: supposed to be available to the Australian people, well, you know,
[24:52] Speaker 11: I know a lot of people who talk about a
[24:55] Speaker 11: lot of delay in those services, the fact that they
[24:57] Speaker 11: have to you know, wait around for days to get
[25:00] Speaker 11: anything done through the services that are available to the
[25:04] Speaker 11: Australian people. But you know, again, Australians are suffering as
[25:09] Speaker 11: a result of this government because every single dollar that
[25:13] Speaker 11: is swallowed up by bureaucracy is a dollar that isn't
[25:17] Speaker 11: creating another job in the private sector, that isn't supporting
[25:23] Speaker 11: and going into another apprentice or making sure that a
[25:27] Speaker 11: small business is growing and becoming prosperous, and again creating
[25:33] Speaker 11: more uncertainty.
[25:35] Speaker 1: So again, I love this government when they just gaslight right.
[25:40] Speaker 1: I mean they just straight out gaslight right, And that's
[25:42] Speaker 1: the polite way of saying bs. But I'm trying to
[25:44] Speaker 1: watch by language, right, Mum's watching. But here's the deal, right,
[25:48] Speaker 1: which is they make the changes to the housing market,
[25:51] Speaker 1: they make the economic decisions that we're about fiddling with inflation,
[25:55] Speaker 1: you know, the energy payments, or the changes when it
[25:58] Speaker 1: came to fuel tax. Right, all of that to eventually
[26:01] Speaker 1: get them to where they got February last year, where
[26:04] Speaker 1: they were losing in the polls, and then they got
[26:06] Speaker 1: an interest rate drop. Things started to fall their way. Right,
[26:09] Speaker 1: all that's moved away. We've now had three interest rate rises,
[26:12] Speaker 1: two of which two of the three have something to
[26:15] Speaker 1: do have nothing to do with Iran. Right, But the
[26:18] Speaker 1: government turns around and says, on top of all of that, right,
[26:21] Speaker 1: so it's harder to pay off a home right now,
[26:23] Speaker 1: they're now changing the capacity for people to be able
[26:25] Speaker 1: to get that investment property because you know, votes under
[26:28] Speaker 1: fifty I don't understand. But as I just mentioned a
[26:31] Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago, clear O'Neal right, the clueless housing
[26:34] Speaker 1: ministry of this country. Who I'm sure it's wonderful at
[26:36] Speaker 1: playing Labor party politics is great with all of the
[26:38] Speaker 1: talking points. Is sassy on the socials is great, you
[26:42] Speaker 1: know in the pants suit in question time. I get
[26:44] Speaker 1: it all right, But the reality is she's out there
[26:47] Speaker 1: saying no, rents aren't going to increase. Well, rents are
[26:49] Speaker 1: increasing tonight. The numbers that I've just presented for and again,
[26:53] Speaker 1: let's just talk about Darwin. Right, if you're renting a
[26:56] Speaker 1: house in Darwin a year ago, six hundred and eighty
[26:58] Speaker 1: dollars was the median rent. It's now up to seven
[27:01] Speaker 1: hundred and sixty dollars. Now. I love Darwin, but there's
[27:04] Speaker 1: not a whole bunch of brand new million dollar properties
[27:06] Speaker 1: which you've just been dropped into Fanny Bay, that have
[27:09] Speaker 1: pushed that number up. It is just the cost of
[27:11] Speaker 1: paying off a joint right now. As for a unit
[27:13] Speaker 1: that's five hundred and fifty, it's gone to six hundred
[27:15] Speaker 1: and fifty. That's year on year. But rents weren't going
[27:18] Speaker 1: to increase as a result of government policy.
[27:20] Speaker 11: To center well and you know, well again another broken
[27:25] Speaker 11: promise from this particular government. And it's the trifector of
[27:29] Speaker 11: failure that they've been able to bring about, which is
[27:31] Speaker 11: fewer homes, higher rents and less confidence. I mean, you know,
[27:36] Speaker 11: housing isn't just about supply, it's about confidence. Ultimately, the
[27:42] Speaker 11: Prime Minister was asked whether he would guarantee that they
[27:46] Speaker 11: wouldn't tank the housing market. I mean, we've got a
[27:49] Speaker 11: situation now where if house prices drop below ten twenty percent,
[27:55] Speaker 11: then we're moving into negative equity. Area for her first
[27:59] Speaker 11: home buyers, where you know their homes are worth less
[28:02] Speaker 11: than their mortgage. They are turning the housing market upside down.
[28:07] Speaker 11: And when asked as to why they haven't done anything
[28:13] Speaker 11: about the well, what they have done is ensure that
[28:15] Speaker 11: rants have increased. Is that their response during question time
[28:20] Speaker 11: the other week when we're in question time was well,
[28:24] Speaker 11: we want people to buy homes. Not everyone is in
[28:30] Speaker 11: a position to be able to do that. And with
[28:33] Speaker 11: the way the market's going, you know, confidence is absolutely
[28:37] Speaker 11: dipping and heading south. Our investors aren't going to be
[28:42] Speaker 11: confident enough to invest. We know that it's small businesses
[28:46] Speaker 11: that are those that will be building homes, and they're
[28:50] Speaker 11: not confident because you know this, this government is taxing
[28:54] Speaker 11: aspiration in this country. So when they're not confident, well
[28:59] Speaker 11: you've got delay and starts for bills, but you've also
[29:02] Speaker 11: got small businesses who aren't investing and bringing on more
[29:05] Speaker 11: tradees who aren't investing in apprentices. They are absolutely managing
[29:10] Speaker 11: to destroy the joint and taking all of us with them.
[29:14] Speaker 1: Now I've got to show you this, which was the
[29:16] Speaker 1: Prime Minister with Nhendra Modi, the leader of India today.
[29:21] Speaker 1: Now obviously it's a big event which is taking place
[29:23] Speaker 1: in Melbourne tonight. Great awesome, unpleased that people are able
[29:27] Speaker 1: to see a visiting world leader. Great fine and fair enough.
[29:31] Speaker 1: But the Prime Minister, it looks like he's going to
[29:34] Speaker 1: light another candle before he changes his position here, because
[29:38] Speaker 1: remember the absolute shellacking that he would give to you
[29:42] Speaker 1: or anyone else who previously has advocated for nuclear energy.
[29:45] Speaker 1: Yet today the big announcement was US giving more uranium
[29:50] Speaker 1: to India for nuclear energy, which was described by the
[29:53] Speaker 1: President like.
[29:55] Speaker 14: This, we have signed and important agreement today on nuclear energy.
[30:04] Speaker 14: This will pave the way for uranium supplies from Australia
[30:10] Speaker 14: to India and give our clean energy objectives fresh momentum.
[30:17] Speaker 14: Our cooperation in critical manners is important for strategic security
[30:26] Speaker 14: and clean energy transition.
[30:29] Speaker 1: Can you believe this? Literally, if it's the opposition, it
[30:32] Speaker 1: was three eyed fish in the Roofskinna cave in. But
[30:35] Speaker 1: if it's helping out another country, who are saying this
[30:39] Speaker 1: is the way of doing it cleanly, it's a press conference.
[30:43] Speaker 11: Oh look, this is the hypocrisy of this ridiculous Prime
[30:48] Speaker 11: minister once more, where he would absolutely would rather see
[30:53] Speaker 11: another country do well using our resources, the cleanest green
[31:00] Speaker 11: toward even toward net zerif that's what they're trying to achieve,
[31:04] Speaker 11: which I doubt.
[31:04] Speaker 10: That they are for India.
[31:07] Speaker 11: But we're not even allowed to touch our uranium supplies
[31:11] Speaker 11: here in the Northern Territory anymore because our Prime minister
[31:15] Speaker 11: stopped that from going ahead in the top end. And
[31:19] Speaker 11: we have we have incredible resources in terms of uranium
[31:24] Speaker 11: in our own country, and we've got a Prime minister
[31:26] Speaker 11: who's not even looking to seeking to invest in our
[31:31] Speaker 11: own ability to process uranium for the purposes of clean
[31:35] Speaker 11: green energy within our own country, reliable energy, mind you,
[31:41] Speaker 11: given that he made this again promise which has been
[31:45] Speaker 11: broken toward two hundred and seventy five dollars in a
[31:48] Speaker 11: reduction in our energy bills and our electricity bills. And
[31:53] Speaker 11: yet this is the hypocrisy, utter hypocrisy of this bloke
[31:58] Speaker 11: that he's going to ship it off to India for
[32:01] Speaker 11: another country to be able to enjoy so they can
[32:05] Speaker 11: have clean green energy and reduce cost of electricity in
[32:10] Speaker 11: their own country. But he's allowing Bowen to continue ahead
[32:14] Speaker 11: to ruin our pristine rainforests with these transmission lines to
[32:21] Speaker 11: ensure that the cost of energy for regular Australians every
[32:25] Speaker 11: day Australians, for small businesses, for manufacturers continues to be high.
[32:31] Speaker 11: But hey will help out, will help out India, or
[32:34] Speaker 11: will help out our mates over there in India? What
[32:37] Speaker 11: an utter?
[32:39] Speaker 3: I can't say.
[32:39] Speaker 1: Swear words right now, but I could see where the
[32:43] Speaker 1: train was going and we're all cheering it on. Good on,
[32:45] Speaker 1: you have a wonderful weekend. Thank you mate. How good
[32:48] Speaker 1: as she said it interesting to Deputy for Price joining
[32:50] Speaker 1: us from Buaflola springs. All right, quick break back with
[32:53] Speaker 1: more here on for Murray Livetime talking about winners and
[32:55] Speaker 1: losers of the week and an expert with a little
[32:57] Speaker 1: bit of insight whether Telstra has handled all of this
[33:00] Speaker 1: way they should or might have dropped the ball a
[33:02] Speaker 1: little on the PR front. Thank you so much for watching.
[33:09] Speaker 1: Let's get into it right now with wonderful rosc Adell,
[33:11] Speaker 1: the Newcopal senator representing the NATS. Where are you tonight,
[33:15] Speaker 1: my friend.
[33:17] Speaker 15: D I'm on the main street, just outside the Golden Fleece,
[33:19] Speaker 15: so telling Mary war I can see my breath.
[33:22] Speaker 1: Ah fantastic or right half from a dating media none
[33:26] Speaker 1: of lovely, Lisa God, I'd love to see you, my friend.
[33:29] Speaker 1: How are you warm in here?
[33:31] Speaker 6: I'm sorry to say, the man cave.
[33:32] Speaker 1: A lot warmer here. So look, part of your expertise,
[33:35] Speaker 1: obviously is comms management, crisis management, how companies should deal
[33:40] Speaker 1: with big moments out of nowhere, And obviously I just
[33:43] Speaker 1: want to quickly talk to you about how you think
[33:45] Speaker 1: Telstra has handled it. Obviously, if they'd like to hire
[33:47] Speaker 1: your services, good luck at any time. But how do
[33:51] Speaker 1: you think they've handled the past couple of days, because
[33:53] Speaker 1: they seem to be getting an easier run than Optis,
[33:55] Speaker 1: do you, yeah?
[33:56] Speaker 6: I agree, Look, they I don't think they came out
[33:58] Speaker 6: fast enough. I think if I were the CEO who
[34:00] Speaker 6: is making her way back to Australia on a very
[34:03] Speaker 6: slow plane by the looks of it, I would be
[34:05] Speaker 6: braced and I would hope, like hell, i'd been prepared,
[34:07] Speaker 6: because I would suspect if unlike the journals asking questions
[34:10] Speaker 6: of Elbow, let's hope there's a different press pack and
[34:13] Speaker 6: they're at the airport and going to throw some hard
[34:14] Speaker 6: questions at her as a doorstop before they get the
[34:17] Speaker 6: chance to try and put her out there in a
[34:19] Speaker 6: proper press conference situation. Because they are going to be
[34:22] Speaker 6: hit hard with what you said earlier. Where's the compensation?
[34:25] Speaker 1: Well, this is my thing, right, So when you are
[34:27] Speaker 1: giving advice to companies, you obviously again your experience of
[34:31] Speaker 1: being a journalist, right, and how often you were as
[34:34] Speaker 1: here at SKYT News. You know what, our one of
[34:37] Speaker 1: a story's going to be our six day, two and
[34:39] Speaker 1: a week, right. Inevitably, the conversation at some point is
[34:42] Speaker 1: going to come up saying, look, you're a listed company,
[34:45] Speaker 1: You're not on the bones of your backside. You're not
[34:47] Speaker 1: a small business. You've got plenty of cash, right, You've
[34:49] Speaker 1: got a big customer base, So what are you going
[34:52] Speaker 1: to do for them? Optus came up with this sort
[34:54] Speaker 1: of pretend where they went, oh, here's extra data that
[34:57] Speaker 1: we know you're not going to use. Right. They seemed
[35:00] Speaker 1: a little unprepared for that question today.
[35:03] Speaker 6: Well, and you've got businesses who are rightly so saying
[35:06] Speaker 6: we could not operate. And it wasn't just you. You couldn't
[35:09] Speaker 6: use an FPOs machine, they couldn't take calls, they couldn't
[35:12] Speaker 6: make calls that their data, you know, trying to use authenticators,
[35:17] Speaker 6: et cetera was a nightmare for them. So we were
[35:19] Speaker 6: getting calls from people saying, look, what messaging do we
[35:21] Speaker 6: put out to our customers because we have to now
[35:24] Speaker 6: as they're our third party provider, but we have to
[35:27] Speaker 6: now deal with our customers. So that will be one
[35:29] Speaker 6: of the key questions. As you said day one, they
[35:32] Speaker 6: thought they had it closed off. What struck me though,
[35:35] Speaker 6: is that five o'clock or just after five o'clock press
[35:37] Speaker 6: conference Rules of Crisis Empathy Action Update I timed it.
[35:44] Speaker 6: They did not get to the apology and to the
[35:46] Speaker 6: very end of that statement, which I think you know
[35:49] Speaker 6: you need to be able to say to your customers
[35:51] Speaker 6: all around the country who are relying on you have
[35:53] Speaker 6: had a day go up ended.
[35:55] Speaker 1: We're sorry, DONI Media, this is why we're lucky to
[35:58] Speaker 1: have her, and this is what she knows what she's
[36:00] Speaker 1: no one, All right, no, no, These people are going
[36:02] Speaker 1: a lot of in the house, but there's people who
[36:04] Speaker 1: know even better that are sitting on the outside.
[36:05] Speaker 12: There.
[36:05] Speaker 1: You to help none other than ros Kdell. All right, now, Ross,
[36:09] Speaker 1: there was a big decision that was or suggestion today
[36:13] Speaker 1: is that gig workers are going to get a pay rise.
[36:17] Speaker 1: Now I know automatically whenever there's a wage increase, there's
[36:20] Speaker 1: the automatic response that comes from those going, who's going
[36:23] Speaker 1: to pay for it? Who's going to pay for it? Personally,
[36:25] Speaker 1: I have no problems with this whatsoever, because I think
[36:28] Speaker 1: the people that do actually end up working for the Ubers,
[36:30] Speaker 1: for the door Dash, for the gig economy, they might
[36:34] Speaker 1: be able to pull together a living if they're doing
[36:36] Speaker 1: it for eleven hours, but every now and then a
[36:39] Speaker 1: little up. No problem with me. But what do you
[36:41] Speaker 1: think of what's happening here? Mate?
[36:45] Speaker 15: I was interested to see your take on this, because
[36:47] Speaker 15: I'm exactly the same. These are people who don't have power,
[36:50] Speaker 15: who are probably at the bottom of the food chain,
[36:52] Speaker 15: and they are delivering it for us. And if there
[36:54] Speaker 15: has to be a sort of convenience tax where we
[36:56] Speaker 15: have to pay a little bit more to get this
[36:57] Speaker 15: stuff delivered to us, I'm for it. It's all about
[36:59] Speaker 15: their say fft. Too many of them are hit by buses,
[37:01] Speaker 15: hit by things in the cities, and if they can't
[37:04] Speaker 15: earn a wage and have some security of doing that,
[37:07] Speaker 15: that's not a good thing. I think the company's recognized
[37:09] Speaker 15: it a while ago. I think daw Dash and Uber
[37:11] Speaker 15: came to agreement with the TWU and it is a
[37:14] Speaker 15: good thing that all workers in Australia are protected. And
[37:17] Speaker 15: I don't mind this one. It's not going to hurt productivity.
[37:20] Speaker 15: It's a little bit, you know, it's a little bit
[37:22] Speaker 15: indulgent that we expect everything to be delivered to us
[37:24] Speaker 15: within twenty minutes nowadays. So if it costs a little
[37:26] Speaker 15: bit extrap so bad.
[37:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got no problem with it here all right Now,
[37:29] Speaker 1: I want to talk about Angus Taylor, who's given a
[37:31] Speaker 1: speech tonight where he is really going at One Nation.
[37:35] Speaker 1: Paul and Hanson has responded on socials. When I can
[37:38] Speaker 1: get that up for you, I will in a moment.
[37:39] Speaker 1: But this is Angustata, the opposition leader, trying to take
[37:43] Speaker 1: the fight up about why if you have strayed and
[37:45] Speaker 1: head to One Nation, it's time to come home.
[37:48] Speaker 16: I understand why some Australians think the way out is
[37:51] Speaker 16: to blow the place up. But to those who feel
[37:55] Speaker 16: like lighting a match, believe me when I say that
[37:59] Speaker 16: a moment of satisfaction isn't worth the eternity of pain
[38:04] Speaker 16: that will follow. One Nation claims to offer a way
[38:07] Speaker 16: out of our national malaise, in reality, they would only
[38:12] Speaker 16: make things worse.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Again. He had a little more to say in the
[38:16] Speaker 1: speech at the Sydney Institute tonight.
[38:22] Speaker 16: What truly distinguishes this crisis is that rather than government
[38:26] Speaker 16: acting to protect Australians from harm, this government is the
[38:31] Speaker 16: primary cause of the harm. Today's economic crisis is of
[38:37] Speaker 16: the Albanezi government's making.
[38:40] Speaker 1: Make no mistake about it.
[38:41] Speaker 16: Australians are feeling poorer under labor because they are poorer
[38:47] Speaker 16: and Labour's big government agenda is to blame.
[38:51] Speaker 1: All right, so obvious here before I give you the
[38:53] Speaker 1: chance to reinforce the message here at Ross Lisa. Look,
[38:57] Speaker 1: reality is politics is a contest, and the test on
[39:00] Speaker 1: the writings obviously between the parties that people have voted
[39:03] Speaker 1: for and the revolution that seems to be being playing
[39:07] Speaker 1: out before our very own eyes. As long as it's
[39:09] Speaker 1: not personal, as almost it's not about the people that
[39:12] Speaker 1: are moving around in the polls. Well, guess what politics
[39:14] Speaker 1: is a contest? And yep, sometimes you're going to have
[39:16] Speaker 1: a whack at each other your thoughts. Look, I just.
[39:18] Speaker 6: Think one of the interesting things he described was one
[39:21] Speaker 6: nation is a column of smoke, and it's the old
[39:24] Speaker 6: Where there is smoke, there's fire, and the fire is
[39:27] Speaker 6: the frustration that voters are feeling across you know, when
[39:30] Speaker 6: you're talking labor or if you're talking liberal and God
[39:33] Speaker 6: help us the Greens, right, So that's why they're going
[39:35] Speaker 6: to one nation. So it was all very nice for
[39:37] Speaker 6: Talor to sit there and say what he said, he's
[39:41] Speaker 6: talking to the converted, if you like, he's talking to
[39:43] Speaker 6: it in a safe house.
[39:45] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
[39:46] Speaker 6: Pauline Hanson, on the other hand, says what she says,
[39:48] Speaker 6: and she says it loudly, and she doesn't have to
[39:50] Speaker 6: sort of confine herself to where she knows everybody's going
[39:52] Speaker 6: to just NodD along nicely. I think Angus Taylor's big
[39:55] Speaker 6: challenge is to start ditching the slogans because he over
[39:59] Speaker 6: and over and over you hear the talking points, but
[40:01] Speaker 6: then the talking points change day after day. So I
[40:05] Speaker 6: think that's his greatest problem.
[40:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. Again, Ross, this is
[40:09] Speaker 1: inevitably the argument for those that are saying, look, we
[40:13] Speaker 1: might have got it wrong in the past, but there's
[40:15] Speaker 1: a whole new collection of us that are hoping for
[40:17] Speaker 1: a better future. I've always said one of the hardest
[40:19] Speaker 1: things for your team is to be able to say, hey,
[40:23] Speaker 1: can we promise what we haven't been able to deliver
[40:25] Speaker 1: in the past. That said, it's okay in my view
[40:28] Speaker 1: to arm up and to have a conversation about all
[40:30] Speaker 1: the options that are out there. Your thoughts on the speech,
[40:34] Speaker 1: and how do you deal with people when they say
[40:37] Speaker 1: to your mate, look, I love your ross, but I'm out,
[40:39] Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm gone.
[40:42] Speaker 15: You have to accept that because we haven't put the
[40:45] Speaker 15: meat on the table for a couple of years. And
[40:46] Speaker 15: I accept that. But what's going missing is this is
[40:49] Speaker 15: he did go at length for a period of time
[40:52] Speaker 15: having a go at the access of socialism, the Green
[40:54] Speaker 15: and Labor taking away our aspiration, taking investments, driving us
[40:58] Speaker 15: down this pipe path to poverty. What was the main
[41:00] Speaker 15: thrust of his speech? He touched on, as you say,
[41:02] Speaker 15: a non personal way on one nation and their policies
[41:05] Speaker 15: or lack of them coming out so far. They'll be
[41:08] Speaker 15: judged that and that's what it should be. The last
[41:10] Speaker 15: thing I want to see.
[41:10] Speaker 1: You know, our.
[41:11] Speaker 15: Parties and our polling may be under threat by one nation,
[41:14] Speaker 15: but our country is under threat by labor and the Greens.
[41:17] Speaker 15: That is a real enemy. Let's turn our guns upon them.
[41:20] Speaker 15: Let's have a contest of ideas because our country is
[41:22] Speaker 15: worth saving. Doesn't matter about party policies ticks. If we
[41:25] Speaker 15: can't save Australia.
[41:26] Speaker 1: Look, I'm just going to park. Sorry, at least I'm
[41:29] Speaker 1: just going to park winners and losers because I just
[41:30] Speaker 1: want to again get back to this idea where today
[41:33] Speaker 1: the big celebration of the Indian Prime minister, the big
[41:36] Speaker 1: deal was that more uranium goes to India. The way
[41:38] Speaker 1: India talks about nuclear energy is through a green future.
[41:42] Speaker 1: But of course in Australia, this is how the government
[41:44] Speaker 1: talks about nucular energy.
[41:46] Speaker 8: Well, I'll wait and see whether the coalition continue with
[41:51] Speaker 8: their nuclear fantasy. He should come clean on what he
[41:55] Speaker 8: will cut to pay for his nuclear reactors. A risky
[42:00] Speaker 8: and expensive nuclear policy that he doesn't want to talk about,
[42:05] Speaker 8: and he certainly doesn't want to visit any.
[42:06] Speaker 1: Other site, Lisa. Great for them, but not for us.
[42:10] Speaker 6: Isn't it great? Way you can pull out the old clips?
[42:12] Speaker 6: He must hate them, the whole TV library that's sitting there.
[42:14] Speaker 6: Oh yes, and my team's very good at But that's
[42:17] Speaker 6: You're exactly right, and that should be the question that
[42:19] Speaker 6: most Australians are asking is why is it okay to
[42:22] Speaker 6: send this offshore to India, and I think the language
[42:24] Speaker 6: that they used was something about it's their non fossil
[42:27] Speaker 6: fuel capabilities and their national security, national energy. Shouldn't we
[42:33] Speaker 6: be worried about that? Isn't that the argument made for us?
[42:38] Speaker 6: It makes absolutely no sense that you can play and
[42:41] Speaker 6: that there'd be endless clips of him saying what you've
[42:43] Speaker 6: just played. And yet he's not changing his mind on this.
[42:46] Speaker 6: He's still fighting the.
[42:47] Speaker 1: Whole of course renewal because again, all the people in
[42:49] Speaker 1: the room, rather than just going hey, Prime minister, what
[42:52] Speaker 1: do you actually think about nun do you want to No, no, no,
[42:54] Speaker 1: we don't bring up those fights. The only ones we
[42:56] Speaker 1: want to fight are between of course world leaders and
[42:58] Speaker 1: liberal leaders, but the French president as it was when
[43:01] Speaker 1: it comes to submarines, which just interad doing because we
[43:03] Speaker 1: could all right, thank you guys, have well. Everly wake
[43:05] Speaker 1: in quick breakback with more. Colin Flynn joins us from
[43:08] Speaker 1: the other side of the world to put a small
[43:09] Speaker 1: on your face at the end of the way at
[43:14] Speaker 1: gloud trotting frame. Colin Flynn, he is all over the place, right,
[43:17] Speaker 1: he's worked in rhyme, He's from Ireland. He's often in
[43:19] Speaker 1: the United States when he's back in Ireland to tell
[43:22] Speaker 1: us about the Spanish Armada.
[43:24] Speaker 9: Hell am I, Hey Paul, great to see you, and
[43:27] Speaker 9: hello from Sligo on the west coast of Ireland. It
[43:30] Speaker 9: is a beautiful day here. It's great to talk to you.
[43:33] Speaker 9: And you can see behind over my left shoulder Ben Bulben,
[43:36] Speaker 9: beautiful mountain here of the west. And then we have
[43:39] Speaker 9: this incredible ship. This is the Galleon Andalucia. It is
[43:44] Speaker 9: a full size replica, in fact, the biggest in the
[43:47] Speaker 9: world poll of a typical Spanish vessel from let's say
[43:50] Speaker 9: the sixteenth seventeenth century. And the reason it is here,
[43:53] Speaker 9: the reason it is sailing down the coast of Ireland,
[43:55] Speaker 9: is very special, the Spanish Ramada. Let me bring you
[43:58] Speaker 9: back to fifteen eighty and to talk a bit about
[44:01] Speaker 9: world politics, you had King Phillip the Second in Spain
[44:04] Speaker 9: and Spain at the time, of course, Paul was the
[44:08] Speaker 9: little superpower and he wanted to invade England. He wanted
[44:11] Speaker 9: to overthrow Queen Elizabeth first. There were a number of
[44:14] Speaker 9: reasons for this, but the main one was religious actually,
[44:17] Speaker 9: because he was Catholic, strong Catholic. He at the backing
[44:20] Speaker 9: of the Pope Queen Elizabeth. Then England was Protestant, so
[44:23] Speaker 9: setting sail in fifteen eighty eight from Lisbon, one hundred
[44:27] Speaker 9: and thirty vessels just like the one you can see
[44:29] Speaker 9: on your screen. Now, these incredible sailing ships. They set
[44:32] Speaker 9: sail up to the English Channel and they had thirty
[44:35] Speaker 9: thousand sailors and aristocrats. They had the best captains. They
[44:39] Speaker 9: were ready for battle and to take England. But what happened, well, Paul,
[44:43] Speaker 9: it was a complete and utter failure. They were overwhelmed.
[44:48] Speaker 9: They were outnumbered of the English navy, who fired cannons
[44:52] Speaker 9: at their vessels like this one behind me. They sent
[44:55] Speaker 9: in smaller boats that were full of combustibles and were
[44:58] Speaker 9: on fire. And the Spanish they panicked and they fled.
[45:01] Speaker 9: Some of them had to move so quick they cut
[45:03] Speaker 9: their anchors. So here's the problem, and here's where it
[45:06] Speaker 9: comes to Ireland. Because they couldn't go back from where
[45:09] Speaker 9: they came from. They couldn't go back through the English
[45:11] Speaker 9: Channel because the English were now blocking it. So they
[45:13] Speaker 9: had to make this perilous long journey up by the
[45:16] Speaker 9: east coast of England around the coast of Scotland right
[45:20] Speaker 9: down by the North Ireland and then by the west.
[45:23] Speaker 9: But here's the of provisions. The men were exhausted after battle.
[45:28] Speaker 9: Many of their ships, like this one behind me, were
[45:30] Speaker 9: already half destroyed or badly damaged, and a lot of
[45:34] Speaker 9: their navigational equipment had been damaged too. Also, their charts
[45:37] Speaker 9: were very bad and they weren't used to the rocky
[45:40] Speaker 9: terrain in the west of Ireland. It was a complete
[45:44] Speaker 9: and utter disaster. Many of the ships were lost, thousands
[45:47] Speaker 9: of men were killed, and in fact, just off the
[45:50] Speaker 9: coast of Sligo here three ships they sank. They met
[45:53] Speaker 9: a watery grave, and over one thousand sailors went to
[45:57] Speaker 9: their maker. And before we came, actually paul I spoke
[46:01] Speaker 9: to Prany, she's one of the main organizers here, and
[46:04] Speaker 9: she told me what it was like when the Spanish
[46:06] Speaker 9: crews encountered the wild Atlantic waves. Here's what she said.
[46:11] Speaker 10: Well, they couldn't have hit the coast at the worst time.
[46:13] Speaker 10: It was September. It was the huge gales at the
[46:17] Speaker 10: equinox in September of fifteen eighty eight, and twenty six
[46:21] Speaker 10: of those ships were wrecked on Irish shores. One we
[46:25] Speaker 10: know of is in northern Ireland, the Girona and then
[46:28] Speaker 10: we have the Trinidad Valenceera in Donegaul. Three of those
[46:32] Speaker 10: are at Strigia. Three of those ships are at Strigia
[46:35] Speaker 10: and one down in Curry. So it was just a
[46:38] Speaker 10: shocking time for those The sailors were debilitated, they were ill, they.
[46:43] Speaker 9: Were some of the ships were damaged.
[46:45] Speaker 10: Oh, the ships were broken up like we're bad. Yes,
[46:48] Speaker 10: and they were broken like matchsticks onto the shore very
[46:52] Speaker 10: very quickly because the storms were just so horrendous.
[46:54] Speaker 9: So they were doomed. Really, they were dumed.
[46:57] Speaker 1: They were doomed and non you call them. We might
[47:00] Speaker 1: have to leave it there because the connection is a
[47:01] Speaker 1: little bit glitchy, but I'll make sure everyone stays across
[47:04] Speaker 1: what you're doing. We'll make sure that everyone can follow
[47:06] Speaker 1: you on the socials as well. Mate. Thank you for
[47:08] Speaker 1: the hard yard. It's appreciate to see you next week.
[47:10] Speaker 1: Colin Flimm there from Ireland to him at the Spanish
[47:13] Speaker 1: Armada just a whole different world away, right, Imagine that's
[47:16] Speaker 1: the main way to get around, that's the main warfare
[47:19] Speaker 1: and the consequences of it. No one feeling safe at all.
[47:22] Speaker 1: If we take Madnity for granted, don't we quick break
[47:25] Speaker 1: back with more and Paul Murray Light. Now some sad
[47:30] Speaker 1: news this evening. Bonnie Tyler, the Welsh singer has sadly
[47:34] Speaker 1: passed away. She had a operation a few weeks ago,
[47:38] Speaker 1: apparently as a result developed and infection, and sadly she's
[47:43] Speaker 1: now left us. But her music sticks around for the
[47:46] Speaker 1: rest of our lives. Remember from nineteen seventy eight, it's
[47:49] Speaker 1: a heartache. I love this song, this song, honestly, this
[47:52] Speaker 1: is getting a massive run on Spotify on my way
[47:54] Speaker 1: home tonight.
[47:56] Speaker 6: Yes, nothing but.
[48:06] Speaker 1: Bad? How good? And then in nineteen eighty three, well
[48:10] Speaker 1: the banger of all bangers that to this day, if
[48:13] Speaker 1: it does not get you rocking in your car, you
[48:15] Speaker 1: do not have a heart what I love it? I
[48:30] Speaker 1: love it. Sadly Bonnie Tyler no longer with this. You
[48:33] Speaker 1: can enjoy it, of course, all of whom music and
[48:35] Speaker 1: please do so. It's such a shame with these artists
[48:37] Speaker 1: of the seventies and eighties is starting to pass, but
[48:40] Speaker 1: alas all happening before our eyes. Now from that moment,
[48:45] Speaker 1: let us get to the world of paying too much
[48:48] Speaker 1: tax for too many politicians and the staffers who make
[48:50] Speaker 1: too many crap social media videos, including this one for
[48:54] Speaker 1: the Green Marine Faruki.
[49:00] Speaker 6: You goodgu.
[49:07] Speaker 9: Dig out.
[49:12] Speaker 1: Politicians who do this at work and it's all state
[49:15] Speaker 1: of origin related. Jesu. This really helps their constituents, doesn't
[49:18] Speaker 1: it speeches?
[49:28] Speaker 14: No, you don't we do.
[49:30] Speaker 1: At the harbor. We have one bay?
[49:33] Speaker 3: Is that a central case?
[49:34] Speaker 2: And we are final Queensland.
[49:39] Speaker 1: So this is what these people are paid to do,
[49:43] Speaker 1: and this bloke is on the outer rims of the ministry.
[49:49] Speaker 3: Think about voting Liberal National or One Nation looks like
[49:53] Speaker 3: buying a year's car because it makes a lot of noise.
[49:56] Speaker 3: Because a vote for anyone the three right wing parties
[49:59] Speaker 3: doesn't just be get you one problem. It gets you
[50:01] Speaker 3: the full service report, same chassis, same angry horn, same
[50:06] Speaker 3: warning light. They keep blaming on the mechanic. What do
[50:09] Speaker 3: you thought was a deal? It turns out to be
[50:11] Speaker 3: a lemon or in this case an orange. It's before
[50:15] Speaker 3: your hand over.
[50:15] Speaker 1: The cash check.
[50:16] Speaker 3: What's really under the bonnet?
[50:20] Speaker 1: Seriously, the people who light at the election now trying
[50:22] Speaker 1: to tell you that it's a used car you're voting for,
[50:24] Speaker 1: when they're the great chunks. That's our show for the week,
[50:27] Speaker 1: Thank you very much. For watching, Sorry for going into overtime,
[50:29] Speaker 1: but here is the late debate

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