# Why We Need To Show Empathy Toward Drivers in Conversations About Street Safety

An episode of [The Strong Towns Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/369032477), 25 Mar 2024, 51 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/g6b8e6/Bike_Talk_1_6r9hf.mp3

Bike Talk is a radio show dedicated to the idea that we need to prioritize bikes as a form of public transportation, and they recently invited Chuck to appear on an episode. It was a great conversation, and so we’re sharing that audio with you today here, as well. They discuss why it’s important to have empathy in discussions about transportation and street safety, and why leading with empathy toward drivers is a good strategy. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES • Listen to the original episode on Bike Talk. • Bike Talk (Twitter/X; Instagram; Reddit). • Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X).

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