# Balancing Big Experiments And Neighborhood Fixes In California Housing

An episode of [The Strong Towns Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/369032477), 3 Apr 2026, 36 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/erqggqsuvb55dmk2/STP_4-3-26.mp3

In this moderated panel at the REACH Ideas + Action Summit, Chuck Marohn and California Forever’s Jim Wunderman tackle California’s housing crisis from two very different angles: maturing existing neighborhoods and building a brand‑new city. Together they wrestle with whether local reforms, new towns, or both can deliver real affordability in places like Santa Barbara and beyond. Additional Show Notes • California Forever (Site) • REACH (LinkedIn) • Jim Wunderman (LinkedIn) • Jocelyn Brennan (LinkedIn) • Chuck Marohn (Substack) This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Thank you!

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