# 651. The Ultimate Dance Partner

An episode of [Freakonomics Radio](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/354668519), 31 Oct 2025, 1 h 08 min.

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For most of human history, horsepower made the world go. Then came the machines. So why are there still seven million horses in America? (Part one of a series, “The Horse Is Us.”) • SOURCES: • Ann N. Greene, historian of 19th century America, retired professor at the University of Pennsylvania. • Constance Hunter, chief economist at the Economist Intelligence Unit. • Elizabeth Bortuzzo, professional horse rider. • Mark Paul, professor of economics at Rutgers University. • Peter Frankopan, professor of global history at Oxford History. • RESOURCES: • "2023 Economic Impact Study of the U.S. Horse Industry," (American Horse Council Foundation, 2024). • Riding to Arms, by Charles Caramello (2022). • The Horse in the City, by Clay McShane and Joel Tarr (2011). • Horses at Work, by Ann Norton Greene (2008). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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