# Danger with Grainger: Clever Criminologist (EP4891)

An episode of [The Great Detectives of Old Time Radio| Daily Mystery Dramas](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/335549005), 19 Jan 2026, 33 min.

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Today's Mystery: A woman hires Grainger because she suspects her estranged husband (a famous criminologist) will kill a male friend. Original Radio Broadcast Date: 1956 or 1957 Originating from Australia Starring: Harp McGuire as Steve Grainger Support the show monthly at patreon.greatdetectives.net Patreon Supporter of the Day: Peter, Patreon supporter since April 2020. Support the show on a one-time basis at http://support.greatdetectives.net Mail a donation to: Adam Graham, PO Box 15913, Boise, Idaho 83715 Take the listener survey at http://survey.greatdetectives.net Give us a call at 208-991-4783 Follow us on Instagram at http://instagram.com/greatdetectives Follow us on Twitter@radiodetectives Join us again tomorrow for another detective drama from the Golden Age of Radio.

## Transcript

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[1:15] Speaker 1: the Clever Criminologist.
[1:31] Speaker 2: Danger with Stranger. This is Granger.
[1:40] Speaker 3: The place is my apartment on aleven thought I was
[1:43] Speaker 3: in mes It's a woman, white faced.
[1:45] Speaker 2: And tenth.
[1:47] Speaker 4: Midnight. This waiting Granger. I can't stand it any longer.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Jo Missy should have taken a sleeping telet, got some rest.
[1:54] Speaker 4: I can't. There's always a chance of something like a
[1:57] Speaker 4: wrong at the last minute.
[1:58] Speaker 3: I hardly think so. You know, Hello, Yes, this is
[2:05] Speaker 3: Steve Granger. Of course he's been here since ten o'clock.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I see that's it done. Yes, I'll tell her.
[2:18] Speaker 3: Well, well, Missus milroyan your husband went to the electric
[2:22] Speaker 3: chair exactly eleven forty five pm. The attending doctor has
[2:25] Speaker 3: just pronounced him that. This is Steve Granger, private detective
[2:30] Speaker 3: with a story about a man who believed he could
[2:32] Speaker 3: get away with murder and very nearly did. In just
[2:34] Speaker 3: a moment, I'll take you back to one of my
[2:36] Speaker 3: most interesting casess Granger. The story began the name missus
[2:48] Speaker 3: Elwood Milroy walked.
[2:49] Speaker 2: Into my office.
[2:50] Speaker 3: She was tall, slim and beautiful, with red hair and
[2:53] Speaker 3: brown eyes which looked even brown because they were circled
[2:56] Speaker 3: with worry.
[2:56] Speaker 4: Mister Granger, I've come here because there's something terrible and
[2:59] Speaker 4: unbelieve all taking place. I don't know how to start
[3:02] Speaker 4: telling you.
[3:03] Speaker 2: From the beginning's always a good place.
[3:05] Speaker 4: It concerns my husband.
[3:06] Speaker 2: Ellwood Milroy. Hey, he's a well known criminologist.
[3:10] Speaker 4: Right, yes, and he intends to kill somebody.
[3:13] Speaker 2: No kidding. Who's the intenent victim?
[3:15] Speaker 4: A very good friend of mine named Newman, Peter Newman, boyfriend,
[3:19] Speaker 4: mister Granger, I might as well be frank with you.
[3:22] Speaker 4: I've been married to Wellwood Milroy for fifteen years. I
[3:25] Speaker 4: realized after it was too late that I should never
[3:27] Speaker 4: have married Elward. I've known Peter for many years, so
[3:31] Speaker 4: this isn't just a summer romance. If that's what you're thinking.
[3:34] Speaker 2: I don't handle divorce cases, Missus Milroy.
[3:36] Speaker 4: That's not what I want you to do. The divorce
[3:38] Speaker 4: does come into it. My husband's been quite agreeable that
[3:41] Speaker 4: one until lately he saw me lunching with Peter Newman.
[3:45] Speaker 4: He was waiting when I arrived home. There was a scene.
[3:48] Speaker 4: He changed his mind, said that would never be a separation.
[3:50] Speaker 3: Missus Milroy told you, I don't meddle in divorce cases.
[3:53] Speaker 4: I know that what I want you to do is
[3:57] Speaker 4: to stop my husband from committing a murder.
[3:59] Speaker 2: Why don't you go to the police.
[4:00] Speaker 4: Do you think they believe me? I can't even tell
[4:03] Speaker 4: whether you do.
[4:04] Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take your case, Missus Milroy. How and when
[4:08] Speaker 3: do I start?
[4:09] Speaker 4: My husband is delivering a lecture this evening at an
[4:11] Speaker 4: Uptown auditorium. I'm going and I have an extra ticket.
[4:15] Speaker 4: I thought you might like to attend. It might give
[4:17] Speaker 4: you something to work on.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Yes, it might have DoD I'll be there missus Milroy.
[4:21] Speaker 4: One thing, mister Granger, my husband is to know nothing
[4:25] Speaker 4: about conversation.
[4:29] Speaker 3: At eight o'clock that night, I was seated near Missus
[4:31] Speaker 3: Milroy in an auditorium on Upper Broadway. A husband wound
[4:35] Speaker 3: up his lectured at exactly ten pm.
[4:37] Speaker 2: All fashioned methods of crime detection are no longer usable
[4:40] Speaker 2: when one deals with a modern criminal. At times has advanced.
[4:44] Speaker 2: The criminal has also advanced, and you were a specialists
[4:47] Speaker 2: in the field of criminology, must anticipate these advances. I
[4:52] Speaker 2: thank you.
[4:58] Speaker 5: Well, I'll eat it, my dear.
[5:00] Speaker 2: They expected you to attend another one of my lectures.
[5:02] Speaker 2: Surely you've heard them so often you must know them
[5:04] Speaker 2: by heart.
[5:04] Speaker 4: I always attend your lectures, Albert, Yes.
[5:07] Speaker 2: Of course, so you do. Oh excuse me, mister Milroy.
[5:10] Speaker 3: I wanted to come over and tell you how much
[5:12] Speaker 3: I enjoyed your lecture.
[5:13] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[5:14] Speaker 3: In a small way. I'm in the same business you are.
[5:17] Speaker 3: Oh really, my name's Granger, Steve Granger.
[5:21] Speaker 2: Of course a private eye, isn't that the phrase? Oh
[5:25] Speaker 2: my dar, permit me, Steve Granger. My wife, Edith, Hello,
[5:28] Speaker 2: how do you do? So you enjoyed my lecture? Did
[5:30] Speaker 2: you thoroughly. Well, that's rather a strange Granger. I understand
[5:34] Speaker 2: that you were one of the old school type.
[5:36] Speaker 3: If you mean I chase them until I catch him.
[5:38] Speaker 3: You're right, and that's what i'd heard about you.
[5:40] Speaker 2: It's too bad that men of your type don't realize
[5:42] Speaker 2: that progress is here. Even in the criminal field. You'll
[5:46] Speaker 2: run into one of the new crop of criminals, Granger.
[5:48] Speaker 2: And when you do, where will your old fashioned methods
[5:50] Speaker 2: take you? You'll be as outmoded as a horseless carriage.
[5:53] Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong.
[5:54] Speaker 3: I go in for the scientific stuff too, the fingerprints, ballistics,
[5:57] Speaker 3: all that stuff.
[5:59] Speaker 2: Use them because you hope to reven all made a blunder.
[6:01] Speaker 3: But in the final analysis, it's the old fashioned bloodhound
[6:04] Speaker 3: with its nose to the ground who comes up with
[6:06] Speaker 3: a net result.
[6:06] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've heard all that, and you confirm. But
[6:09] Speaker 2: I've heard about you. Oh someone I must have a
[6:12] Speaker 2: word with. Excuse me, won't you? Nice guy?
[6:17] Speaker 3: What's the idea of little pills? He popped about three
[6:21] Speaker 3: of them Intes's mouth and as many minutes.
[6:23] Speaker 2: What's wrong with him?
[6:24] Speaker 6: Is he sick?
[6:24] Speaker 4: No? But he's a confirmed hypochondriact. Oh well, Granger, he
[6:28] Speaker 4: knows I've spoken to you.
[6:29] Speaker 2: I mean you've told him, of course not, but he
[6:32] Speaker 2: sensed it. I'm sure he has take it easy enough.
[6:34] Speaker 2: It's just nerves. No, he knows. I just don't he knows.
[6:41] Speaker 3: I hung around the auditorium for a while, then wandered
[6:43] Speaker 3: Odd's side. When Elwood mill Run his wife left the place,
[6:46] Speaker 3: I followed them home. Then I loitered around a few
[6:49] Speaker 3: minutes and went back to my apartment. I was just
[6:51] Speaker 3: putting the key in my door when I got a surprise.
[6:55] Speaker 2: One moment, please, mister.
[6:56] Speaker 3: Milroy, Well, well, I didn't know you lived in this building.
[7:00] Speaker 2: And you know it, and I came to see you. Why.
[7:03] Speaker 2: I don't like talking in car doors. Can we go in?
[7:06] Speaker 6: Of course.
[7:09] Speaker 2: After you, mister Milroy Granger, I'm not going to beat
[7:14] Speaker 2: around the bush with you. You followed me home tonight?
[7:16] Speaker 2: Did I stop evading me? You were in a cream
[7:19] Speaker 2: colored taxi. The number was six seven three. You dismissed
[7:21] Speaker 2: the cab half a block down the street. You lighted
[7:23] Speaker 2: around for a while, and then you left.
[7:25] Speaker 3: How do you know all, miss Milroy? You're waiting for
[7:27] Speaker 3: me when I walked into this building.
[7:29] Speaker 2: That was simple. I slipt out the back door of
[7:31] Speaker 2: my place, watched you for a moment, got a cab,
[7:32] Speaker 2: and anticipated your next move. I was right. You came here,
[7:36] Speaker 2: nice going, simple deduction. Now in Granger, why were you
[7:41] Speaker 2: following me. I'm not at liberty to tell you what
[7:44] Speaker 2: died my wife. I told you. I'm not at liberty
[7:46] Speaker 2: to tell you, Oh it was my wife. Granger, I'm
[7:49] Speaker 2: going to tell you something. He'd have suffers from a
[7:51] Speaker 2: persecution complex. She seems to be on the impression that
[7:54] Speaker 2: I'm going to kill her. If you know all this,
[7:56] Speaker 2: why come up here? Because I will not be trailed around.
[7:59] Speaker 2: I am not a criminal. I've done nothing wrong. Also,
[8:02] Speaker 2: if my wife is your client, and I'm reasonably sure
[8:04] Speaker 2: she is, I'll tell you something more. I intend to
[8:07] Speaker 2: give her the divorce she wants. Have you told her all?
[8:10] Speaker 2: I shall in good time? So, Granger, let me repeat,
[8:14] Speaker 2: leave me alone, or I shall take steps.
[8:18] Speaker 3: Okay, and until tomorrow you can take steps. Right the
[8:23] Speaker 3: second through that dorm is the crime expert. I suppose
[8:27] Speaker 3: I choose not to leave right this is my home.
[8:30] Speaker 3: You're an intruder, and in soulting intruder, I might say
[8:33] Speaker 3: I'd be justified in throwing in your fame might be justified.
[8:36] Speaker 2: But could you do it? Mil Roy?
[8:37] Speaker 3: I've taken all I'm going to from you. You've slung
[8:40] Speaker 3: a lot of fancy phrases around a lot of nasty cracks.
[8:42] Speaker 3: So have you forgotten what you said at the auditorium?
[8:44] Speaker 3: I remember everywhere I get out of here, I'll toss
[8:47] Speaker 3: you right out.
[8:47] Speaker 2: Like to see that? Okay you will? Ah? That was
[8:53] Speaker 2: a scientific little move taken from the book of Judo Granger.
[8:56] Speaker 2: It wants and more.
[8:58] Speaker 3: Yes, I think I.
[9:05] Speaker 2: Really I'd better leave a little notes with you explaining
[9:08] Speaker 2: what that was. We call it a rabbit punch.
[9:15] Speaker 3: I'll continue with this interesting story in a minute. When
[9:25] Speaker 3: I came to I felt like somebody had played the
[9:27] Speaker 3: flight of the bumblebee on the back of my neck
[9:28] Speaker 3: with a mallet. I staggered to my feet, slashed water
[9:31] Speaker 3: over my skull, and weaved back into the living room.
[9:33] Speaker 3: Milroy had gone. I went to bed. The following morning
[9:40] Speaker 3: at the office, an early visitor made an appearance.
[9:42] Speaker 4: Mister Granger, did my husband come to see you last night?
[9:44] Speaker 4: I was afraid of that. He's terrible. He looked at
[9:48] Speaker 4: me this morning and said it was all fair, all set?
[9:51] Speaker 2: What do you mean?
[9:51] Speaker 4: Let me tell you what happened. It was about nine
[9:54] Speaker 4: this morning. I tried to.
[9:55] Speaker 5: Avoid him, but he called me.
[9:57] Speaker 4: It is come in here please.
[9:58] Speaker 2: I don't't have to talk with you.
[10:00] Speaker 4: I'd rather not listen if it means another scene.
[10:02] Speaker 2: I think you'll hear what I have to say or
[10:04] Speaker 2: it will be unpleasant consequences, said Dan.
[10:07] Speaker 4: Very well, what is it?
[10:08] Speaker 2: Why did you employ a private detectives follow me? I
[10:10] Speaker 2: don't have to lie, please? You hired Steve Grainger?
[10:13] Speaker 4: Why because of the way you've been acting? Ill word?
[10:16] Speaker 2: How else can a husband act? Who is about to
[10:17] Speaker 2: be discarded? All world?
[10:19] Speaker 4: I don't want to go over it again. You're grossly
[10:21] Speaker 4: jealous of You don't want to stay married to me,
[10:24] Speaker 4: and you also don't want me to marry anybody else.
[10:26] Speaker 2: I don't want to marry Peter Newman. He's a fool. I
[10:28] Speaker 2: refuse to let you make it stupid Blundy.
[10:29] Speaker 4: It may seem a blunder to you, but it'll seem
[10:31] Speaker 4: like paradise for me.
[10:32] Speaker 2: Ask you once more to reconsider. I know that you've
[10:35] Speaker 2: consulted an attorney. You'll try to assume me if I
[10:37] Speaker 2: don't go ahead with our original agreement.
[10:38] Speaker 4: That is correct.
[10:39] Speaker 2: You've forced me to be plain. I'll get the divorce,
[10:42] Speaker 2: not you, and I'll get it when, where and if
[10:45] Speaker 2: I want it. If you start in the action against me,
[10:48] Speaker 2: you'll regret it for the rest of your life.
[10:56] Speaker 4: There is the gist of what was said, mister Granger.
[10:59] Speaker 2: What can I do, missus Milroy. I'm not a lawyer.
[11:01] Speaker 2: I'm a private investigator.
[11:03] Speaker 3: And the more I hear about this fight between you
[11:05] Speaker 3: and your husband, the less I don't want any part
[11:06] Speaker 3: of it.
[11:07] Speaker 4: You mean you don't want to go ahead and work
[11:09] Speaker 4: for me?
[11:10] Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense. You think your husband is going
[11:12] Speaker 3: to kill your friend? Have you any proof of that
[11:15] Speaker 3: at all? Any evidence besides your imagination.
[11:18] Speaker 4: Mister Granger. When my husband called on you, he intimated
[11:21] Speaker 4: that I was unbalanced, didn't he I wouldn't say that
[11:23] Speaker 4: he did something of the kind I know he did.
[11:25] Speaker 4: That's why you're acting the way you are.
[11:27] Speaker 3: I'm sorry, missus Milroy, but I don't think there's anything
[11:29] Speaker 3: to this idea You've got very well.
[11:31] Speaker 4: I leave, but when you remember this conversation, you'll be sorry.
[11:37] Speaker 3: Edith Milroy swept out the door, gave me a curtain
[11:39] Speaker 3: nod and disappeared down the hall. It was pleasant to
[11:42] Speaker 3: forget her get into something that had less of an
[11:45] Speaker 3: odor about it. I got engrossed in some other work.
[11:48] Speaker 3: At five that afternoon, the phone rang Steve Granger's thinking,
[11:55] Speaker 3: what is.
[11:55] Speaker 2: It now, Missus Milroy? And no, why anybody look for
[12:00] Speaker 2: you up here? No?
[12:03] Speaker 3: Why where are you, Missus Milroy? Why you think your
[12:13] Speaker 3: husband said the kelly, Missus Milroy, maybe you had better
[12:16] Speaker 3: come up here right now. I'll take it on the
[12:18] Speaker 3: police headquarters. You can hand your ideas to hamas Missus Milroy,
[12:23] Speaker 3: listen to reason. Missus Milroy, where have you been all afternoon?
[12:28] Speaker 3: Were you at Peter Newman's apartment? Missus Milroy?
[12:36] Speaker 2: Dame is a little lot of rocker.
[12:42] Speaker 3: Well, I ask you, wouldn't you think the same? Even so,
[12:45] Speaker 3: there was a kind of funny, nagging feeling at the
[12:48] Speaker 3: back of my head. It might have been just the
[12:51] Speaker 3: echo of the rabbit punch delivered my friend Milroy. And
[12:53] Speaker 3: again it might be the feeling that Missus Milroy had
[12:56] Speaker 3: been right all along.
[12:58] Speaker 2: And just a moment, I'll bring you the of the case.
[13:07] Speaker 3: After Missus Milroy's mysterious phone call, I was curious enough
[13:10] Speaker 3: to go downstairs and pick up a late act. In
[13:11] Speaker 3: an addition, I was still carrying it when the door
[13:14] Speaker 3: of cal Hendrick's apartment shut behind me. The newspaperman wasn't surprised.
[13:18] Speaker 2: To see me.
[13:19] Speaker 3: Well, Steve, what's the good word today? Why do you
[13:21] Speaker 3: know about Elwood Milroy? He's a criminologist, one of the
[13:24] Speaker 3: best in the business.
[13:25] Speaker 2: What else do you know about him personally?
[13:27] Speaker 7: I mean not much as an accurate disposition, not the
[13:30] Speaker 7: type who fundles children.
[13:32] Speaker 2: Hey, why the interest in mister Milroy?
[13:33] Speaker 7: You think you're taking a short course in scientific crime
[13:36] Speaker 7: to take my mind?
[13:39] Speaker 5: So you are?
[13:40] Speaker 1: Well?
[13:40] Speaker 6: Jay?
[13:41] Speaker 2: Can't you know Lieutenant Rank and Caroll?
[13:42] Speaker 7: I know him, but I can't say it's a place
[13:44] Speaker 7: sure at the comedy newsboy and Grangeer, I want a
[13:46] Speaker 7: word with you.
[13:48] Speaker 5: When you went at your office, I figured you'd be here.
[13:50] Speaker 2: And what's up? Lieutenant?
[13:51] Speaker 7: Seeing the papers, we'd a bet a man named Peter
[13:53] Speaker 7: and Newman getting shat earlier today.
[13:55] Speaker 3: I might have noticed that of the light him.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Why did Missus Milroy retain you grangers?
[13:58] Speaker 7: Missus Milroy, you have information that Missus Melroy came to you.
[14:02] Speaker 3: Why why does anyone come to a private investigator. Come on,
[14:05] Speaker 3: come on, stop stolen Granger. Why did you employ you?
[14:08] Speaker 3: Was it because she was afraid of her husband?
[14:10] Speaker 7: Did she have an idea that her husband was going
[14:12] Speaker 7: to kill Newman? Maybe you know where missus Milroy is now? No,
[14:17] Speaker 7: you see, Granger, she's involved in this killing up to
[14:20] Speaker 7: her ears. The gun that did the killing belonged to
[14:22] Speaker 7: her husband.
[14:22] Speaker 5: It was by the door.
[14:23] Speaker 2: How do you tie in missus Milroy?
[14:25] Speaker 7: An informant told us that she was at Peter Newman's
[14:28] Speaker 7: apartment about the time the killing would place, and speaking
[14:31] Speaker 7: of fingerprints, they were a woman's. We'd like to have
[14:34] Speaker 7: a little chat with missus Melroy. They were hers. Knowing
[14:38] Speaker 7: that you cooperate to the fullest extent with the police department,
[14:42] Speaker 7: we wouldn't like to entertain a notion that you might
[14:44] Speaker 7: be hiding in suspect.
[14:46] Speaker 2: Dear boy, I wouldn't dream of it.
[14:47] Speaker 5: I'm glad to hear you say that, Granger.
[14:49] Speaker 4: Mister Granger, I've been looking all over for you. I
[14:52] Speaker 4: went to your office and at the man next door
[14:53] Speaker 4: tome you might be here.
[14:54] Speaker 3: I am so what I've got to talk.
[14:56] Speaker 4: To you privately. The police have identified the gun that.
[14:59] Speaker 6: Killed Peter Grange.
[15:00] Speaker 7: Yeah, do you mind if I into this charming little group.
[15:03] Speaker 7: I'd like to meet this lady.
[15:04] Speaker 3: I'm so glad to oblige, Missus Milroy. Let me present
[15:07] Speaker 3: Lieutenant Rankin of homicide.
[15:09] Speaker 4: You're a police officer.
[15:11] Speaker 7: I am Missus Melroy, and you and I are going
[15:13] Speaker 7: downtown's little chat.
[15:14] Speaker 4: But I haven't done anything. I'm not guilty.
[15:16] Speaker 2: I Stranger, help me please.
[15:19] Speaker 7: If he doesn't, he'll be abstracting justice. And if he
[15:22] Speaker 7: does that, he like your hire us out too.
[15:25] Speaker 5: Come on, Missus Melroy.
[15:28] Speaker 2: Interesting little scenes.
[15:29] Speaker 7: See, Yeah, wasn't it going to help Missus Milroy out?
[15:32] Speaker 2: Why should I because you're the gallahead type kids. Yeah,
[15:36] Speaker 2: I guess I am at that.
[15:41] Speaker 3: I got on the phone and tried to trace Ellwood Milroy,
[15:44] Speaker 3: but I was out of luck. Then I went down
[15:46] Speaker 3: to the police headquarters and had a few words with
[15:48] Speaker 3: Lieutenant Rankin. As a result, I was granted an interview
[15:51] Speaker 3: with Missus Milroy in her cell.
[15:53] Speaker 4: Mister Granger, please help me. I'm not guilly of murder.
[15:56] Speaker 4: I'm not guilly of anything.
[15:58] Speaker 3: Missus Milroy was seeing going into the building where Peter
[16:01] Speaker 3: and Human lived, but It doesn't mean I killed him,
[16:03] Speaker 3: That's only something. Why were your fingerprints on that murder weapon?
[16:08] Speaker 4: It must have been my husband's gun. He headed out
[16:10] Speaker 4: a few days ago. They'd been follows in the neighborhood,
[16:13] Speaker 4: he said, and he wanted me to be able to
[16:14] Speaker 4: use it if necessary. He showed me how to handle it. Well,
[16:18] Speaker 4: don't you see Elbert killed Peter and made it look
[16:21] Speaker 4: like I did it?
[16:26] Speaker 2: Well, Granger, I don't know, Jake. It looks un good
[16:30] Speaker 2: for her, Granger. She was seen going in on Newman's
[16:32] Speaker 2: place about the time he was killed. And what about
[16:34] Speaker 2: her husband?
[16:35] Speaker 5: Elwert Melroy was working like a troacher.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Of course, when'd you see it before you came down?
[16:39] Speaker 2: Has he got an alibi?
[16:40] Speaker 5: And unbreakable one?
[16:42] Speaker 2: Granger? He did his club for lunch, twenty members saw him.
[16:44] Speaker 5: He went to an alley movie.
[16:46] Speaker 7: The Yesha remembers him sounds on us two perfect. There's
[16:48] Speaker 7: no almost about it, Granger.
[16:50] Speaker 3: Jake, how about letting me examine the apartment where Peter
[16:52] Speaker 3: Newman loves killed with pleasure?
[16:54] Speaker 2: Pal, I love watching you squirm. As a matter of fact,
[16:58] Speaker 2: I'd go along with you. It's sort of the guided tour.
[17:02] Speaker 2: Oh thanks, this is his apartment, Granger, how come it
[17:11] Speaker 2: doesn't see you? I forgot to tell you her husband
[17:14] Speaker 2: is up here working the Great Milroy himself.
[17:16] Speaker 3: Euh, okay, come on, give me a breakdown on what
[17:21] Speaker 3: you found.
[17:21] Speaker 2: The newman was lying over there alongside the davenport.
[17:24] Speaker 5: The gun was here by the.
[17:26] Speaker 3: Door, so he didn't shoot himself and throw the gun away.
[17:31] Speaker 2: Hello, lieutenant, and it's mister Granger, isn't it. Yeah, you
[17:34] Speaker 2: two know each other quite well, don't we, Grangeer, I've
[17:37] Speaker 2: got a good no shit, I got that out, Granger.
[17:39] Speaker 5: What's the matter with you?
[17:40] Speaker 1: Oh?
[17:40] Speaker 2: Granger is a trifle annoyed. We played a little game
[17:43] Speaker 2: last night. He lost all right there, So again, if
[17:45] Speaker 2: you'll excuse me, I'll get back to my work. Wise guy,
[17:49] Speaker 2: what happened, Well, he came up to my place. I
[17:53] Speaker 2: tried to throw him out. You what, he's one of
[17:56] Speaker 2: the country's foremost exponents of judo.
[17:58] Speaker 3: Don't worry, I found it out. Let's go the something here. Okay, Hey,
[18:04] Speaker 3: do they have a dorman in this building?
[18:05] Speaker 2: They do. He's got a little office just inside the door.
[18:08] Speaker 3: Go ahead it yeah, yeah, I want to ask you
[18:16] Speaker 3: some questions about Peter Newman.
[18:18] Speaker 7: I don't know about Matt's all right, Smith, you can
[18:20] Speaker 7: answer them.
[18:21] Speaker 2: I didn't see you there, Lieutenant. What is it there?
[18:24] Speaker 2: Were you on Judy?
[18:25] Speaker 3: When Peter Newman was shot? I was now how many
[18:29] Speaker 3: people came to see him?
[18:30] Speaker 2: He had only one visitor, that Missus Melroy.
[18:34] Speaker 3: She came to see him.
[18:35] Speaker 2: Nobody else. Huh no, sir.
[18:37] Speaker 3: How about deliveries of one kind another, like laundry or groceries.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Well, now that you mentioned that there was one delivery
[18:44] Speaker 2: he made a messenger he was had a box of candy? Messenger?
[18:48] Speaker 5: What do he look like?
[18:49] Speaker 2: Rather old? I'd says he was very gray, had kind.
[18:53] Speaker 5: Of a stoop.
[18:53] Speaker 2: Was this his usual delivery? Never saw him before?
[18:56] Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, rack, and let's go back to Newman's apartment.
[19:00] Speaker 3: I want to find that box of candy. Be a
[19:04] Speaker 3: Newman's apartment yielded the box of candy one piece was gone.
[19:07] Speaker 3: Gave me an idea one that took me back downtown
[19:10] Speaker 3: the police headquarters and another quick visit with Missus Edith Milroy.
[19:16] Speaker 2: Mister Granger, Missus.
[19:17] Speaker 3: Milroy, how well did you know Peter Newman's.
[19:20] Speaker 4: Habits bad habits? Mister Granger?
[19:21] Speaker 2: Well, for instance, if it you had gone, or if
[19:24] Speaker 2: he had candy.
[19:24] Speaker 4: I don't think that Peter was very fond of candy.
[19:27] Speaker 3: Well, even the type of person to have a box
[19:29] Speaker 3: of candy sent to his apartment rather than go out.
[19:31] Speaker 2: And pick it up in person.
[19:32] Speaker 4: That's a strange question. I wouldn't know.
[19:35] Speaker 2: One more thing.
[19:37] Speaker 3: When you were in Newman's apartment, did you notice a
[19:39] Speaker 3: freshly opened box of candy?
[19:41] Speaker 5: No?
[19:42] Speaker 4: And what's the box of candy got to do with?
[19:43] Speaker 7: This?
[19:44] Speaker 3: Probably spells the difference between life and death for you,
[19:47] Speaker 3: missus Milroy. I went back to Rankin's office and found
[19:53] Speaker 3: him working like a beaver with a leak in his dam.
[19:56] Speaker 3: The request I made was barely out of the ordinary.
[19:58] Speaker 7: A granger, we've gone through you things. What makes you
[20:01] Speaker 7: think you'll find something?
[20:02] Speaker 5: Loll twunt.
[20:03] Speaker 3: This is a routine request. I want to look over
[20:06] Speaker 3: his clothes, all.
[20:06] Speaker 7: Right, all right, but you're wasting my time, which is
[20:09] Speaker 7: paid for with the taxpayer's money.
[20:11] Speaker 3: Which is my money because I'm a taxpayer. So come on, servant,
[20:14] Speaker 3: show me Peter Newman. Stop Rykan took me down to
[20:19] Speaker 3: the morgue, where I poughed over Peter Newman's belongings. It
[20:22] Speaker 3: was the usual wallet, the usual identification cards and whatnot.
[20:26] Speaker 3: I went over his suit with great care, even pinching
[20:28] Speaker 3: the buttons. When I got to the cops on his trousers,
[20:31] Speaker 3: I found a little something, a little something that sent
[20:34] Speaker 3: me on an errand that took me first to a druggist.
[20:38] Speaker 7: Why yes, sir, I can't identify this pill. It's a
[20:41] Speaker 7: prescription for one of my customers.
[20:42] Speaker 2: You are limited to tell me who this customer is.
[20:45] Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I can divulge that information or not.
[20:47] Speaker 3: If it's a matter of police business. Could you in
[20:51] Speaker 3: that event? I'm sure I could. The druggist gave me
[20:56] Speaker 3: the first solid clue, Then I added for certain movie.
[21:00] Speaker 3: The cashier at the theater, bright eyed and sharp, gave
[21:03] Speaker 3: me the second. When I'm finished with her, I got
[21:06] Speaker 3: ranking to meet me at a certain address.
[21:10] Speaker 5: So this is where the Melroy's live.
[21:12] Speaker 2: Right, you're not trying to tell me that.
[21:14] Speaker 5: Elwood Melroy killed Peter Newman.
[21:17] Speaker 2: Wait and find out. Well, how do you do?
[21:22] Speaker 5: Gentlemen?
[21:23] Speaker 2: Come in? Thanks to what do I owe the pleasure
[21:28] Speaker 2: of this visit?
[21:29] Speaker 3: Ellwood Milroy, and you shot and killed Peter Newman, then
[21:32] Speaker 3: framed your wife.
[21:35] Speaker 2: Please grange, you don't be silly. Excuse me a second.
[21:39] Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm getting a good night forgett.
[21:40] Speaker 3: I know what he's looking for, Jake his pills. What's
[21:43] Speaker 3: a madam Milroy?
[21:44] Speaker 2: Nervous? Get a couple of your pills to study it down?
[21:46] Speaker 2: Their prescription. My doctor told me to take them.
[21:49] Speaker 3: I know your druggist told me about the druggist. That's
[21:53] Speaker 3: why I made your prist mistake, Milroy. That in one
[21:55] Speaker 3: other place, the theater, the cashier saw you go in,
[21:59] Speaker 3: but nobody so Lee.
[22:00] Speaker 2: Obviously there was a crowd leading with me the picture
[22:02] Speaker 2: was over. You left before the end of the picture. Really,
[22:06] Speaker 2: And how is that? I can recite the.
[22:07] Speaker 3: Movie's entire plot because you went on the same theater
[22:09] Speaker 3: the day before. The cashier remembers that visit.
[22:13] Speaker 2: But that wasn't your biggest mistake, Milroy, isn't it. When
[22:17] Speaker 2: did you see Peter Newman last two weeks ago? Oh?
[22:20] Speaker 3: No, it was much more recently today. In fact, you
[22:24] Speaker 3: walked into his apartment disguised as a messenger. And I
[22:27] Speaker 3: know you were there, mister crime, come judo expert, because
[22:31] Speaker 3: you keep flipping those pills of yours and I found
[22:33] Speaker 3: one of those pills in the dead man's trouser cuff.
[22:37] Speaker 3: He must have been a bit nervous and dropped one.
[22:38] Speaker 3: Funny how often little thing will fall into a guy's
[22:41] Speaker 3: trouser cuff.
[22:42] Speaker 2: How does that prove I saw him today? It happened
[22:44] Speaker 2: two weeks ago. Bad luck, Milroy.
[22:46] Speaker 3: Humuldn have had his suit clean the day before. Yet, Milroy,
[22:50] Speaker 3: you laughed at me because I'm the type who runs around.
[22:52] Speaker 2: With his nose to the ground.
[22:54] Speaker 3: But if I hadn't, I would never have found a
[22:56] Speaker 3: clue that busted your perfect crime. A little send you
[23:00] Speaker 3: to the chair, you, you dirty soap.
[23:03] Speaker 2: I'll kill you like look up, he'll get away, old friends.
[23:12] Speaker 2: That's the story.
[23:14] Speaker 3: I'll be back to wrap up the case in just
[23:15] Speaker 3: a minute. Elwood Milroy went to hospital with the bullets
[23:24] Speaker 3: through the arm. With evidence piling up against him. He
[23:26] Speaker 3: was accused of killing Peter Newman. Ulimately he was convicted.
[23:31] Speaker 3: I better call on my friend Lieutenant Jake Rank at
[23:33] Speaker 3: his office.
[23:34] Speaker 7: Well, Granger, you might be interested. Elwert Milroy was sending
[23:37] Speaker 7: for the chair this morning.
[23:39] Speaker 3: So much for his two perfect alibi, right, Jake, and
[23:43] Speaker 3: for old fashion.
[23:44] Speaker 2: The detective methods.
[23:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, missus Milroy saw.
[23:48] Speaker 2: Just an hour ago. You saw me too, with a
[23:50] Speaker 2: neat check complete with numbers.
[23:53] Speaker 5: You know you were lucky fine in that pill.
[23:55] Speaker 2: How'd you ever dream it up?
[23:57] Speaker 3: Because I'm no great hand at criminology, I just run
[24:00] Speaker 3: around with my nose to the ground.
[24:02] Speaker 5: Would you do that in here?
[24:04] Speaker 2: Hardly? This joint's got sawdust on the floor.
[24:07] Speaker 7: In that case, you won't mind if I pick up
[24:10] Speaker 7: that five dollar bill down there where?
[24:12] Speaker 2: Hey, hey, that's mine. I mean many to have that
[24:14] Speaker 2: hole in my pocket sewn up?
[24:15] Speaker 5: Too bad?
[24:16] Speaker 2: Gums you I had my nose to the ground that time.
[24:20] Speaker 3: Well, that's one for the books. The flat foot was
[24:24] Speaker 3: his own blood ound.
[24:31] Speaker 2: Steve Granger.
[24:32] Speaker 3: Again, You've just heard one of the most interesting cases
[24:35] Speaker 3: in my files, and I'll have another one for you,
[24:38] Speaker 3: so be around next time.
[24:43] Speaker 1: Welcome back. I actually enjoyed this one. It had me
[24:47] Speaker 1: guessing a little bad well. I did have a lot
[24:52] Speaker 1: of suspicions towards the husband. I did also find myself
[24:56] Speaker 1: wondering whether the wife might have been playing Granger somehow
[25:01] Speaker 1: the way things were set up. Now, of course, this
[25:05] Speaker 1: is a title that probably should have quotes around it
[25:10] Speaker 1: because while the criminologists might be well respected and might
[25:16] Speaker 1: have a lot of theoretical knowledge of crime, as a murderer,
[25:22] Speaker 1: he committed a crime that could only really be called sloppy.
[25:27] Speaker 1: The theater might have been an instance of him disregarding
[25:31] Speaker 1: the importance of like work in the movie beforehand. Was
[25:38] Speaker 1: not a bad idea, and certainly there are plenty of
[25:41] Speaker 1: stories of police usualing knowing or not knowing the details
[25:46] Speaker 1: of a movie as an indication of whether somebody actually
[25:50] Speaker 1: went to say it, although you don't hear that sort
[25:52] Speaker 1: of thing in modern crime dramas. And the bigger tell
[25:56] Speaker 1: was the evidence he left at the scene of the crime,
[26:00] Speaker 1: and his idea that it might have just been sitting
[26:03] Speaker 1: in the pants leg for two weeks is kind of
[26:06] Speaker 1: absurd and really weak sauce, but it shows ultimately a
[26:10] Speaker 1: failure of imagination to imagine, Okay, if I were a criminal,
[26:16] Speaker 1: what would be my distinguishing characteristics? What evidence might I
[26:21] Speaker 1: tend to leave on the basis of my habits and patterns?
[26:26] Speaker 1: And how can I avoid doing that? Because so many
[26:30] Speaker 1: of the scientific methods that particularly those that were coming
[26:35] Speaker 1: into place in the mid nineteen fifties, came down to
[26:41] Speaker 1: the sort of things that might be left at the
[26:45] Speaker 1: scene of the crime unintentionally, But instead of identifying that
[26:51] Speaker 1: critically and looking at himself, he just kind of concludes, Ooh,
[26:55] Speaker 1: I'm so clever, so I'm going to get away with this,
[26:58] Speaker 1: And Granger is able to defeat or villain through nothing
[27:02] Speaker 1: more than basic detective work and taking advantage of the
[27:08] Speaker 1: villain's utter arrogance. Now, one thing that was said when
[27:13] Speaker 1: Granger's client got arrested that made me kind of do
[27:17] Speaker 1: a double take was this whole question of it was
[27:22] Speaker 1: a woman's fingerprints, because it kind of struck me that
[27:26] Speaker 1: fingerprints really had never heard of them being able to
[27:30] Speaker 1: prove sex, and they can't prove it definitively. But doing
[27:36] Speaker 1: some research, there are tendencies of male and female fingerprints.
[27:44] Speaker 1: The big one is ridge density. Men tend to have
[27:49] Speaker 1: lower ridge density and there's more space in general between
[27:55] Speaker 1: our ridges. Women tend to have higher rege density, as
[28:01] Speaker 1: women tend to have more ridges, but they tend to
[28:04] Speaker 1: be a bit finer. This is a tendency. It's not
[28:08] Speaker 1: an absolute rule. But if you did find fingerprints that
[28:14] Speaker 1: match the typical file for a certain gender, you would
[28:19] Speaker 1: expect the perpetrator to be of that gender, but you
[28:24] Speaker 1: know it might be someone with an atypical print. In
[28:28] Speaker 1: this case, they could really only say for certain it
[28:32] Speaker 1: was a woman's print because they were able to match it.
[28:35] Speaker 1: The other thing, I was glad that it turned out
[28:38] Speaker 1: our criminologist was also a judo champion.
[28:44] Speaker 7: Uh.
[28:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I first heard that scene, I was
[28:47] Speaker 1: embarrassed for Granger. It's like, you're a tough guy, detective
[28:52] Speaker 1: and you get taken down by a hypochondriac academic. But
[28:56] Speaker 1: our guy did have a lot of facet to his character.
[29:02] Speaker 1: None made him a person who could truly pull off
[29:07] Speaker 1: the perfect murder. Well, now we turn to listener comments
[29:12] Speaker 1: and feedback, and we have a comment from Harrison regarding
[29:16] Speaker 1: the episode Out of Jail for Christmas. Uh, And he writes,
[29:21] Speaker 1: He's been a friend for years, but I had no
[29:23] Speaker 1: idea he had a family some detective. I think, yeah,
[29:29] Speaker 1: that's a fair point, Harrison. I just tended to think
[29:33] Speaker 1: that with Granger it was just a case of him
[29:36] Speaker 1: being one of those people who uses the term friend
[29:41] Speaker 1: rather loosely, because there are a lot of people who
[29:45] Speaker 1: use friend when the more appropriate word would be acquaintance,
[29:49] Speaker 1: which that's kind of how I took it, But thanks
[29:53] Speaker 1: so much. Appreciate the comment, Harrison. Well, now it's time
[29:56] Speaker 1: to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I
[29:59] Speaker 1: want to thank Peter, Patreon supporter since April twenty twenty,
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[30:37] Speaker 1: back here tomorrow for the big story where.
[30:40] Speaker 8: You're very kind to see me.
[30:42] Speaker 2: Mister Miller.
[30:42] Speaker 6: You read the stories I wrote on your son, didn't
[30:44] Speaker 6: you missus?
[30:45] Speaker 5: Mantell, Yes, I did.
[30:47] Speaker 9: You know just how I feel. I'm only sorry you
[30:49] Speaker 9: didn't get twenty five years.
[30:51] Speaker 8: I'm not a proud woman, mister Miller. If to get
[30:55] Speaker 8: to the truth, I have to scrub floors or take
[30:58] Speaker 8: a little insult a mother doesn't mind that, mister Miller.
[31:02] Speaker 6: Oh, look, what do you got to say.
[31:06] Speaker 8: Joey didn't do it anymore than I did.
[31:08] Speaker 6: The jury thought otherwise.
[31:09] Speaker 8: Joey wasn't there, He wasn't near the store that night.
[31:13] Speaker 6: You said that in court. Well, what do you want anyhow?
[31:15] Speaker 9: Man gets a trial, a fair trial, a jury of decent,
[31:17] Speaker 9: honest people find him guilty.
[31:19] Speaker 6: What more do you want, mister Miller.
[31:22] Speaker 8: I'm a reader of your paper fifteen years. I like
[31:25] Speaker 8: the way you write. No, that's not flattery, it's the truth.
[31:31] Speaker 8: You remember the Sullivan boy about eight years ago, mister Miller.
[31:34] Speaker 8: He was found gilly by a jury of honest people, too,
[31:37] Speaker 8: but you wrote about it, and you helped prove that
[31:41] Speaker 8: he was innocent. The Ginsburg girl that was about four years.
[31:45] Speaker 6: Look, look, I studied your son's case.
[31:48] Speaker 9: The only thing that makes me saw was that they
[31:50] Speaker 9: didn't catch the other crook, and your son only got
[31:51] Speaker 9: fifteen years.
[31:53] Speaker 6: Those people were in their sixties.
[31:54] Speaker 8: Missus Mantel, I'm sixty seven, mister Miller, sixty seven. A woman,
[32:01] Speaker 8: don't lie. My boy was home in the garage fixing
[32:06] Speaker 8: the car.
[32:07] Speaker 6: Why was he fixing a car in the evening?
[32:09] Speaker 8: Because when a boy wants to make a new start,
[32:11] Speaker 8: he don't care if it's afternoon or evening.
[32:14] Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,
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[32:32] Speaker 1: This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.

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