# Episode 230: Helen Hulick Takes the Stand

An episode of [the memory palace](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/299436963), 17 Apr 2025, 16 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/dovetail.prxu.org/3/57e5baf7-b245-485d-b897-64f5fefa5fe8/episode_230.mp3

Order The Memory Palace book now, dear listener. On Bookshop.org, on Amazon.com, on Barnes & Noble, or directly from Random House. Or order the audiobook at places like Libro.fm. During mid-April, 2025, I'm doing a southern book tour, with stops in San Antonio, Houston, Gainesville, Montgomery, New Orleans, and Oxford. Find out more at www.thememorypalace.us/events. The Memory Palace is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. Radiotopia is a collective of independently owned and operated podcasts that’s a part of PRX, a not-for-profit public media company. If you’d like to directly support this show, you can make a donation at Radiotopia.fm/donate. I have recently launched a newsletter. You can subscribe to it at thememorypalacepodcast.substack.com. Music • Hallway Rug and a bit of Watering Plants by Omni Gardens • Dripping Icicles from Lalo Schiffrin's great score to The Fox. • Girl Talk by the Howard Roberts Quartet • Jules et Therese from the score to Jules et Jim • Franz Waxman's main title theme to Woman of the Year • Your Love from the legend, Frankie Knuckles • Then we go back and forth between Joe Morello's Timeless and Lara Downes playing Leonard Bernstein's Big Stuff. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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