# Sentencing Backlash & Pets Are Still Property

An episode of [Bloomberg Law](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/277975394), 14 Oct 2025, 37 min.

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Former federal Judge Paul Grimm, Director of the Bolch Judicial Institute at Duke Law School, discusses the backlash to the sentencing of the would-be assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Trust and estates attorney Suzanne Thau, a partner at Schwartz Sladkus Reich Greenberg Atlas, discusses why pets are still treated like property in most legal situations. June Grasso hosts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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