# CFP FIRST ROUND REACTIONS: Alabama Storms Back, Miami Wins Slugfest + Oregon & Ole Miss Roll

An episode of [The Solid Verbal College Football Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/270037732), 21 Dec 2025, 1 h 02 min.

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The first round of the College Football Playoff is officially in the books. In this episode, we recap the highlights, lowlights and big storylines from an eventful slate of games, as Alabama erased a 17-0 deficit to beat Oklahoma, Miami outlasted Texas A&M (and the wind) for a 10-3 victory, and Oregon and Ole Miss dominated G5 opponents in their home stadiums. Plus, some thoughts on the Group of Five's place in the College Football Playoff. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 2:56 - Alabama defeats Oklahoma 19:37 - Miami beats Texas A&M 34:10 - Oregon & Ole Miss roll 48:20 - The Great G5 Playoff Debate Support the show!: https://www.patreon.com/solidverbal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm
[0:06] Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
[0:09] Speaker 1: I want to be happy.
[0:10] Speaker 2: You want to be happy for day Edo State? Is that?
[0:13] Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And no Dan and tie Dan Rokenstein. As
[0:19] Speaker 1: we come on the airwaves tonight, the first round is
[0:24] Speaker 1: just about over. We will get to that and much
[0:27] Speaker 1: much more here over the next I don't know forty
[0:31] Speaker 1: five minutes, sixty minutes worth of podcasting. Thank you one
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[0:43] Speaker 1: miss any of our episodes. We've got much to discuss here.
[0:46] Speaker 1: Of course, we had a big one on Friday night
[0:48] Speaker 1: with Alabama's comeback. We had the Slugfest in College Station Miami,
[0:53] Speaker 1: pulling that one out over Texas A and M. And
[0:56] Speaker 1: then we had two matchups later in the day today
[0:59] Speaker 1: Ole miss Tulane and as we are recording now, James
[1:03] Speaker 1: Madison against Oregon, both of which are runaway trains not
[1:07] Speaker 1: entirely unexpected, although I will admit it does bring up
[1:11] Speaker 1: some other conversations around the structure of the playoff and
[1:15] Speaker 1: the sport and what have you. It is really just
[1:17] Speaker 1: a blank canvas onto which you can project all that
[1:20] Speaker 1: ails you about college football. We will get to that
[1:24] Speaker 1: as well, Dan Rubinstein, are you able to give me
[1:27] Speaker 1: your undivided attention given that Orson I'm still playing, Yeah, Oregon,
[1:32] Speaker 1: Jamie is still going.
[1:33] Speaker 2: Oregon has I think it's fours in at least on defense,
[1:36] Speaker 2: and Jamu march down the field to score its twenty
[1:39] Speaker 2: seventh point. Oregon's up three touchdowns at the moment. I
[1:41] Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen there. I assume Oregan's
[1:43] Speaker 2: gonna win going away, and things are going to continue
[1:46] Speaker 2: right now, and I guess we can find out at
[1:49] Speaker 2: the same time as the show progresses. If Jamu makes
[1:51] Speaker 2: a furious comeback and it gets weird, I don't know,
[1:54] Speaker 2: but Oregon seems to have it in hand. Good news,
[1:56] Speaker 2: bad news time. The good news is we get to
[1:58] Speaker 2: talk about college football. We get to espouse opinions if
[2:01] Speaker 2: I use the word to spouse correctly, and talk through
[2:05] Speaker 2: these games, talk through these moments and storylines, and you know,
[2:09] Speaker 2: form opinions about how we think things might go moving forward.
[2:13] Speaker 2: The bad news is I emptied our bank account to
[2:15] Speaker 2: pay fifty cent for ninety seconds of It's gonna.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Be a killer. I don't know.
[2:22] Speaker 2: I hopefully it goes better for us than it did
[2:25] Speaker 2: for Oklahoma bringing him in before the fourth quarter. Yeah,
[2:28] Speaker 2: but I think it's worth it. We'll see, we'll see.
[2:32] Speaker 1: That killed me when I saw him walking that thous
[2:34] Speaker 1: is that fitty? Okay? Okay, all right, cool, do whatever
[2:37] Speaker 1: it takes. I think it's creting.
[2:39] Speaker 2: It was a ReSpectacle. It was great get fifty cent
[2:42] Speaker 2: to Norman, Oklahoma for a college football game.
[2:46] Speaker 1: I think it's great. I love it. I love it. Well, Hey,
[2:49] Speaker 1: welcome back one and all. It is a pleasure going
[2:52] Speaker 1: to be with you again. Thank you for your sports
[2:53] Speaker 1: for danelady for listening the whole nine yards. Why don't
[2:57] Speaker 1: we go in chronological order. You mentioned the Friday night game.
[3:01] Speaker 1: This one was taking place in Norman, Oklahoma. It was
[3:03] Speaker 1: the number eight seed Oklahoma playing host to the number
[3:06] Speaker 1: nine seed Alabama. Was a rematch of a game that
[3:11] Speaker 1: took place about a month ago. Remember Oklahoma won that
[3:14] Speaker 1: one by a twenty three to twenty one final. Yes,
[3:20] Speaker 1: so I was among the chorus of people out on x,
[3:26] Speaker 1: the everything app who posted about the early demise of
[3:30] Speaker 1: Alabama when they went down seventeen zip.
[3:34] Speaker 2: Oh that was you. Oh yeah, I knew I wasn't
[3:36] Speaker 2: going to say anything. There's no winning with those maniacs.
[3:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was one of them. It did not age well,
[3:44] Speaker 1: and as the second half was going down, I am
[3:47] Speaker 1: just praying to the Lord above that our friend Freezing
[3:51] Speaker 1: Cold Takes does not highlight my early tweet here.
[3:57] Speaker 2: Can I tell you also why I was trying to
[4:00] Speaker 2: dance on Alabama in that moment. Oklahoma has exclusively scored
[4:06] Speaker 2: between like seventeen and twenty five points this season, especially
[4:10] Speaker 2: against quality defenses, and they scored seventeen of those points
[4:14] Speaker 2: pretty quickly. So I was like, look, maybe it's a
[4:17] Speaker 2: different kind of night and they're scoring forty five, but
[4:19] Speaker 2: it's still against the Alabama deep.
[4:21] Speaker 1: Against the Alabama defense, And.
[4:23] Speaker 2: So I was like, I am not Look, I'm prepared
[4:25] Speaker 2: for Oklahoma to win this game. But at that moment,
[4:27] Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I could see Oklahoma winning this
[4:30] Speaker 2: game twenty three to twenty two, you know, and holding
[4:33] Speaker 2: on for dear life. But no, I wasn't in your
[4:36] Speaker 2: head space. But I appreciate that we're all different snowflakes here.
[4:39] Speaker 1: I jumped the gun, though that account didn't zing me.
[4:44] Speaker 1: Many others did. In my defense, A I did pick
[4:48] Speaker 1: Alabama beforehand to win the game. You may recall only
[4:52] Speaker 1: one member of this broadcasting dynamic duo did, and it
[4:55] Speaker 1: was me. You're truly yeah. And secondly, there weren't a
[4:58] Speaker 1: whole lot of people out there who were posting the
[5:01] Speaker 1: counter argument like, oh yeah, Alabama, they got them right
[5:06] Speaker 1: where they won them. I didn't see any of that
[5:09] Speaker 1: out there, so the observation was wrong. I think everybody
[5:12] Speaker 1: had the same observation, albeit mine might have been a
[5:15] Speaker 1: little bit more public, a little bit too soon. But
[5:20] Speaker 1: I deserve to take the medicine, and I did.
[5:22] Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the game. Let's talk about what
[5:25] Speaker 2: transpired between the sidelines.
[5:28] Speaker 1: I think a couple things are true at once. We
[5:31] Speaker 1: would agree that Alabama got off to a terrible start. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
[5:36] Speaker 1: We would agree that after that terrible start, the manner
[5:40] Speaker 1: in which Alabama came back when on a thirty four
[5:43] Speaker 1: to seven run the remainder of the game and just
[5:46] Speaker 1: dominated Oklahoma through and through, we would agree that they
[5:49] Speaker 1: deserve all the flowers for that. Yes, oh yeah it was.
[5:53] Speaker 2: It was a terrific regrouping from Alabama and figuring out,
[5:57] Speaker 2: Look the difference in this game, in this ten point
[6:01] Speaker 2: spread between these two teams. I mean, look, there was
[6:03] Speaker 2: a lot of differences after those seventeen nothing after the
[6:05] Speaker 2: seventeen nothing start, but you had the sort of horrible
[6:10] Speaker 2: punt situation that I guess Alabama sort of fell into
[6:14] Speaker 2: a blocked punt and got a field goal out of that,
[6:16] Speaker 2: I believe, on that short field and they baited I
[6:19] Speaker 2: think it was which corner was it. It wasn't Domanti Jackson,
[6:24] Speaker 2: but corner for Alabama baited Jeoh Matier into a pick
[6:30] Speaker 2: six and there's your ten points. And it was terrific.
[6:34] Speaker 1: It was a turnabout fair play, to be honest with you,
[6:40] Speaker 1: because if we think back to that first matchup, what
[6:43] Speaker 1: did we talk about, Oklahoma got seventeen points off of
[6:46] Speaker 1: Alabama mistakes, Yes, and baby and Brown by the way,
[6:50] Speaker 1: this time around, it was Alabama that was able to
[6:53] Speaker 1: take advantage of those mistakes. So they go down seventeen
[6:56] Speaker 1: the zip. We can debate whether or not we think
[6:58] Speaker 1: Oklahoma is any good. That's a conversation for another day.
[7:01] Speaker 1: But Oklahoma was up and Oklahoma's got a good defense,
[7:05] Speaker 1: and in theory, it wouldn't have taken much more to
[7:08] Speaker 1: fully put Alabama out of their misery at that point
[7:11] Speaker 1: in time. So Bama on the road at night eighty
[7:15] Speaker 1: three thousand, screaming fans against a good defense, it could
[7:18] Speaker 1: have gone sideways. The fact that they managed to turn
[7:22] Speaker 1: things around to recapture momentum and go on that kind
[7:25] Speaker 1: of a run I thought was a damn good effort
[7:28] Speaker 1: from the top on down, from Kalin de Bor right
[7:31] Speaker 1: on through the starting roster. Because like early on they
[7:34] Speaker 1: couldn't pressure John Matteir and they were talking about it
[7:37] Speaker 1: on the broadcast, but then they changed, they made some adjustments.
[7:40] Speaker 1: They come away with five sacks. Early on they were
[7:43] Speaker 1: showing the up close visual of ty Simpson's eyes and
[7:48] Speaker 1: his feet and everything seemed out of whack, like he
[7:50] Speaker 1: was seeing ghosts. And then he cal him down correct
[7:54] Speaker 1: and he got better. And so I think we can't
[7:57] Speaker 1: start this conversation in ernest without paying homage to the
[8:03] Speaker 1: job that Alabama did here.
[8:05] Speaker 2: Well, this is, by the way, this is this is
[8:08] Speaker 2: also umbrella before kickoff of like Michigan is convinced that
[8:13] Speaker 2: it can make a run at Kaylan de bor pending
[8:15] Speaker 2: what's happening in this game to whatever veracity, but that
[8:19] Speaker 2: is you know, being reported by Pete Thamill before kickoff
[8:21] Speaker 2: that this game has implications for the Michigan coaching surf,
[8:25] Speaker 2: potential coaching search potentially if Kaylen de borr and Alabama
[8:28] Speaker 2: aren't able to go on the road and come away
[8:30] Speaker 2: with a win, that they feel confident that Alabama's not
[8:32] Speaker 2: going to be super keen on then heaping a huge
[8:35] Speaker 2: extension a new deal on Kalen de bor losing in
[8:38] Speaker 2: the first round, especially after losing in the manner that
[8:40] Speaker 2: they did to Georgia and the SEC championship game. So
[8:43] Speaker 2: like that is that is sort of hovering over this
[8:45] Speaker 2: game as well going into it. And Alabama looked tight,
[8:48] Speaker 2: Ty Simpson looked tight. The protection wasn't there. They couldn't
[8:52] Speaker 2: figure out a you know, nobody's been able to figure
[8:54] Speaker 2: out the Oklahoma pass rush this year because it's been
[8:56] Speaker 2: excellent and overwhelming ninety five percent of the time. This
[9:00] Speaker 2: obviously an Oklahoma team led by its defense. But you're right,
[9:03] Speaker 2: they calm down, they hit plays down the field. It
[9:06] Speaker 2: was I think it was Latzier Brooks was a catalyst
[9:09] Speaker 2: for this team. We mentioned the pick six and that
[9:12] Speaker 2: quick field goal, which, like Alabama hadn't done anything really
[9:15] Speaker 2: in the first half consistently, but it was seventeen all
[9:17] Speaker 2: at the half, correct, seventeen doll at the half.
[9:20] Speaker 1: So it and that brings me sort of, I think,
[9:22] Speaker 1: to the other side of this, because I don't think
[9:25] Speaker 1: we can earnestly talk about Alabama beating Oklahoma without at
[9:30] Speaker 1: least talking a little bit about Oklahoma beating itself, because
[9:34] Speaker 1: this was a big part of the game too, and
[9:35] Speaker 1: you've alluded to it a couple times over. I am
[9:37] Speaker 1: not saying this is the only reason why Alabama won, Okay,
[9:42] Speaker 1: I thought what Alabama did to come in to recapture
[9:45] Speaker 1: the momentum and kind of turn the tide little punt,
[9:48] Speaker 1: I thought that was outstanding and absolutely a good way
[9:54] Speaker 1: to start off this playoff run. So kudos to them.
[9:58] Speaker 1: Alabama did get some breaks in this one, just the
[10:00] Speaker 1: way that Oklahoma did the first time round. You mentioned
[10:03] Speaker 1: the punter dropped the punt, not even boy just dropped it.
[10:08] Speaker 1: They fell on it. They turned that into points. There
[10:12] Speaker 1: was also the pick six, which you mentioned earlier. Right
[10:15] Speaker 1: out of my College Football twenty sixth dynasty. I throw
[10:18] Speaker 1: that pass. I have seen that go back for six.
[10:22] Speaker 1: That was a bad decision by John Mattire. The other
[10:24] Speaker 1: one that you didn't mention was a play I think
[10:28] Speaker 1: about four thirty left in the first half. Mattier evades
[10:33] Speaker 1: a pass rush, makes a nice move to get away
[10:35] Speaker 1: from a defender, rolls out to his left, throws kind
[10:38] Speaker 1: of back across his body down the field. Zavid Robinson's
[10:41] Speaker 1: wide open may not have been a perfect pass, but
[10:44] Speaker 1: it was blown coverage. If he catches it, it's a
[10:47] Speaker 1: walk in touchdown, but he drops it. Those three plays,
[10:51] Speaker 1: in my mind, were the ones that flipped everything.
[10:54] Speaker 2: There were You're right, and there were both ways there were.
[10:58] Speaker 2: I mean, there was the Jermy or Nard in the
[11:00] Speaker 2: second half wide open drop. There was the overthrow early
[11:04] Speaker 2: on from John Mattie. Like there the passing game, and
[11:07] Speaker 2: I'd sort of half attribute this to just the time off.
[11:10] Speaker 2: Oklahoma's been off obviously longer than Alabama, but as well
[11:15] Speaker 2: as it seemed Oklahoma was playing man watching John Mattier
[11:20] Speaker 2: when he knew it was a pass, when it was
[11:22] Speaker 2: an obvious passing situation, or he knew he had to
[11:25] Speaker 2: go through progressions. It was very rare, if ever, where
[11:30] Speaker 2: he dropped back and didn't spaz out a little bit.
[11:34] Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a better word for the
[11:37] Speaker 2: discomfort that he seemed to feel in the pocket. And
[11:41] Speaker 2: obviously leader and playmaker and rolls out and improvises his
[11:46] Speaker 2: sensational runner, obviously with the ball in his head, like,
[11:49] Speaker 2: but there is something about the calm nature of excellent
[11:53] Speaker 2: quarterbacks that I don't think John Matteer possesses, at least
[11:57] Speaker 2: not in the bigger games that Oklahoma has played. And
[11:59] Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a design thing, I don't
[12:01] Speaker 2: know if that's a teaching thing, But the number of
[12:04] Speaker 2: plays where he dropped back and calmly and in a
[12:07] Speaker 2: rhythm stepped into the pocket and threw the ball confidently
[12:11] Speaker 2: down the field, if that happened twice, I think I
[12:14] Speaker 2: may have missed it right that, Like, there was something
[12:17] Speaker 2: a little bit too spastic for me to feel comfortable.
[12:19] Speaker 2: And that's how you get to you know, score. You know,
[12:23] Speaker 2: however many points per drive that Oklahoma's ending up you know,
[12:26] Speaker 2: in like the eighties this season, and so for them
[12:28] Speaker 2: to get this far with this lack of confident offense
[12:32] Speaker 2: I think is pretty impressive.
[12:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the best of Jo Materier is really exciting.
[12:36] Speaker 1: But I would say on the whole, what I saw
[12:39] Speaker 1: from him in this game is something that we have
[12:41] Speaker 1: seen from time to time throughout the course of the year,
[12:44] Speaker 1: and that is there's also a lot of dude perfect
[12:47] Speaker 1: in his passing game. You know, where he's changing our
[12:49] Speaker 1: angles and he's doing some sort of weird stuff. He
[12:52] Speaker 1: threw a couple like fade away passes in this game
[12:56] Speaker 1: where he's not like driving his momentum through so mechanically
[12:59] Speaker 1: they're some I think some rough edges there. I'm not
[13:03] Speaker 1: a quarterback coach nor a quarterback expert. I just play
[13:06] Speaker 1: one on the podcast, but watched enough football to know
[13:09] Speaker 1: what usually works and what usually doesn't. And yeah, definitely
[13:14] Speaker 1: some moments watching the tier. All that being said, it's
[13:19] Speaker 1: not been a great Oklahoma offenses here. This wasn't the
[13:23] Speaker 1: worst showing that I've seen from the Oklahoma offense. Way
[13:27] Speaker 1: very Materier dependent, but the best of him is really good.
[13:31] Speaker 1: We saw some really good, incredible catch by Dion Burks
[13:35] Speaker 1: on the sidelines. They didn't really get Isaiah Satania going.
[13:39] Speaker 1: He did have a touchdown, but only like two for
[13:42] Speaker 1: seventeen on six targets. So that was one guy we
[13:45] Speaker 1: were watching because he's been such a big play threat
[13:48] Speaker 1: for this Oklahoma offense. I didn't think the Oklahoma offense
[13:51] Speaker 1: was bad, but the Alabama defense just did such a
[13:54] Speaker 1: good job forcing third downs. I think I saw something
[13:57] Speaker 1: like Oklahoma had fourteen total drives and eight team third
[14:00] Speaker 1: down attempts. They went something like seven of eight on
[14:03] Speaker 1: third downs, so even that wasn't horrible, but the Alabama
[14:05] Speaker 1: defense just did a really good job forcing them to
[14:08] Speaker 1: get to that third down scenario. And as we'll talk
[14:11] Speaker 1: about here in the next game when we get to Miami,
[14:13] Speaker 1: Texas A and m just forcing those third downs puts
[14:16] Speaker 1: your defense and your team in a position to win
[14:19] Speaker 1: field position, to wield win time of possession, to get
[14:22] Speaker 1: some points on the board. So that was a very
[14:24] Speaker 1: key element to the way that Alabama attacked this offense,
[14:28] Speaker 1: mostly in the second half of this game.
[14:30] Speaker 2: Well, but also should mention Alabama's pass rush has not
[14:34] Speaker 2: been excellent this year. They kind of got that going
[14:37] Speaker 2: in the second half of they did one they did
[14:39] Speaker 2: they really seemed to rotating multiple guys off of edges
[14:43] Speaker 2: playing some pass rush games. They really start getting to
[14:46] Speaker 2: Matier and disrupting an Oklahoma offensive line that at best
[14:51] Speaker 2: was probably up and down this season, obviously improved, but
[14:54] Speaker 2: in terms of like what this Oklahoma offense wants to do,
[14:57] Speaker 2: dropping John Matteer back and going through progressions in getting
[15:01] Speaker 2: to third and eights thirty nine, Alabama had Oklahoma exactly
[15:04] Speaker 2: where they wanted to be. And you could see that
[15:07] Speaker 2: comfort and aggression from Alabama up front without having to
[15:10] Speaker 2: send extra dudes, right they were getting pressure with just
[15:13] Speaker 2: the guys on the line, and it really seemed to
[15:16] Speaker 2: rattle Oklahoma. And by the way, by the way, Tate
[15:20] Speaker 2: Sandel's incredible. He's an incredible kicker. He won the gross
[15:24] Speaker 2: did he not? Yes windy night Friday night in Norman.
[15:28] Speaker 2: Obviously Oklahoma had shots at the end of this game.
[15:31] Speaker 2: I'm not putting it on him because this offense wasn't
[15:34] Speaker 2: performing in the second half. I actually appreciated when they
[15:37] Speaker 2: were going for those field goals. They miss a short
[15:41] Speaker 2: field goal that goes sort of above I think it
[15:43] Speaker 2: was a thirty six yard or so that goes above
[15:46] Speaker 2: and slightly to the left of one of the uprights.
[15:50] Speaker 2: And the whole stadium wasn't shock because he missed a
[15:53] Speaker 2: field goal, gets the ball back still down ten Oklahoma
[15:57] Speaker 2: gets the ball by the ball back goes for something
[15:59] Speaker 2: from like fifty some midd yards. Yeah, it comes up short,
[16:02] Speaker 2: and it comes up short the winster.
[16:04] Speaker 1: By the way, are we sure he missed that field goal?
[16:08] Speaker 2: I don't think there was anywhere near enough evidence right that,
[16:12] Speaker 2: like the I mean, the refs are staring straight up
[16:15] Speaker 2: the upright. I didn't see enough evidence to be like, oh,
[16:20] Speaker 2: that was definitely fully inside, right, that's the rule. Yeah,
[16:23] Speaker 2: the ball has to be fully inside. And I don't
[16:27] Speaker 2: think there was enough evidence to really examine.
[16:29] Speaker 1: Why can't they just make the uprights bigger?
[16:32] Speaker 2: How big? Tie? How big? I think there's physics involved.
[16:35] Speaker 2: And when I tell you I got to be minus
[16:37] Speaker 2: in physics in high school, Tie, your boy Dan gotta.
[16:40] Speaker 1: Be minus in physics. But yes, continue, fair enough. Your
[16:43] Speaker 1: final score here was thirty four to twenty four in
[16:46] Speaker 1: favor of Oklahoma. It was not the prettiest showing by
[16:50] Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. But I do think they
[16:53] Speaker 1: showed a lot of toughness. This is a hostile setting,
[16:56] Speaker 1: these Friday games. I mean, we saw it last year
[16:58] Speaker 1: with Notre Dame in Indiana. It's a very loud, very
[17:02] Speaker 1: raucous environment to kick off the playoff, the first round
[17:06] Speaker 1: of the playoff, and to go into another stadium and
[17:09] Speaker 1: win a game like that in that Friday night primetime setting.
[17:14] Speaker 1: I look, you gotta give them credit. You absolutely have
[17:16] Speaker 1: to give him credit. It was a great season for Oklahoma.
[17:19] Speaker 1: Alabama moves on now to play in the Rose Bowl
[17:22] Speaker 1: on New Year's Day at four pm Eastern time. It
[17:25] Speaker 1: changed the start time. Indiana is a seven point favorite
[17:31] Speaker 1: at time of recording. I have seen that juggle around
[17:35] Speaker 1: a little bit. I saw it dipped to six and
[17:37] Speaker 1: a half. We'll have to monitor over the next ten
[17:39] Speaker 1: days whatever it is, see if that line moves at all.
[17:44] Speaker 1: We will be doing our playoff preview for the quarterfinals
[17:47] Speaker 1: that drops next Sunday, so we've got some time to
[17:51] Speaker 1: sit and digest and think about all this game, all
[17:53] Speaker 1: these actions, all this game action. Excuse me, but also
[17:57] Speaker 1: react to whatever point spread it ends up being when
[18:00] Speaker 1: we recorded at the end of the week, so you know,
[18:03] Speaker 1: we'll have a time and place to talk about that game.
[18:06] Speaker 1: It is certainly intriguing on about a thousand different levels.
[18:11] Speaker 1: But I think it's a really exciting matchup. I'm really
[18:16] Speaker 1: excited to see what that one looks like. It's a
[18:17] Speaker 1: big deal for both these teams.
[18:19] Speaker 2: And by the way, Kurt Signetty former Obama coach, Klen Deborr,
[18:22] Speaker 2: former Indiana.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Coach, I know, so I'm saying, man, a lot of
[18:25] Speaker 1: connective tissue, a lot of connective tissue.
[18:27] Speaker 2: And just to put a bow on it, Ty, I
[18:29] Speaker 2: regret nothing I said about Alabama and getting into this tournament,
[18:33] Speaker 2: this invitational, this TV show. I retract nothing. I regret nothing.
[18:37] Speaker 2: The ends don't justify the means. Alabama was better than
[18:40] Speaker 2: Oklahoma in Tuscaloosa, they were better than Oklahoma here and
[18:43] Speaker 2: they proved it and they won, and it's good for
[18:45] Speaker 2: Alabama and it was a sensational showing. But the ends
[18:48] Speaker 2: do not justify the means. It is a farce that
[18:50] Speaker 2: they're in this TV show. How about that.
[18:53] Speaker 1: I'm not even going there anymore. You should not listen.
[18:57] Speaker 1: I'm over it. I'm over it. Don't be scared of
[18:59] Speaker 1: internet needs TI come on, scaredy the Internet. We need it.
[19:02] Speaker 1: Sounds like you are I'm not. I'm just I'm I'm
[19:06] Speaker 1: a broken man. Okay, okay, I'm broken, and I am
[19:10] Speaker 1: taking this game in a vacuum. I thought Alabama came
[19:14] Speaker 1: back impressively. So I don't know what that means for
[19:18] Speaker 1: the future of the College Football Playoff, either in twenty
[19:21] Speaker 1: twenty six or just here in twenty twenty five, but
[19:24] Speaker 1: A wins away and in thirty four to twenty four you
[19:27] Speaker 1: will take that on the road at night again. Eighty three,
[19:29] Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty was the official attendance.
[19:31] Speaker 2: O Man and Oklahoma lost to US sponsors exemption continue.
[19:36] Speaker 1: Set all all right, Speaking of SEC teams, we had
[19:40] Speaker 1: another one. This game was played earlier today as we
[19:43] Speaker 1: record this on Saturday evening, Miami came to Texas, A
[19:49] Speaker 1: and M What is your preferred nomenclature for this game,
[19:53] Speaker 1: because we can go slugfest, slobber knocker, rock fight, knife fight,
[19:57] Speaker 1: bar fight, field goal fest fest, or of attrition? What
[20:01] Speaker 1: are you into? Do you do? You have something that
[20:03] Speaker 1: came to mind as you were watching this game as
[20:06] Speaker 1: you were preparing for this show.
[20:08] Speaker 2: Wounded sumo. Right, I don't know. That's pretty good, right,
[20:14] Speaker 2: So there's a lot of hef to this game, right,
[20:17] Speaker 2: you have the wounds of just like an inability of
[20:21] Speaker 2: Miami to get anything going offensively. The wounds maybe emotionally
[20:25] Speaker 2: and mentally from Texas A and M and the mistakes
[20:28] Speaker 2: that they, you know, committed on offense. But even still,
[20:32] Speaker 2: there was enough heft and aggression in the trenches going
[20:37] Speaker 2: both directions. Really, Oh oh yeah, that I'm comfortable saying
[20:43] Speaker 2: that Miami was the superior wounded sumo.
[20:46] Speaker 1: This was a demolition derby. Sure. It was zero zero
[20:50] Speaker 1: at half. Everybody online was posting the Frank Beamer.
[20:53] Speaker 2: You know which one I mean, of course, Well, because
[20:55] Speaker 2: I want to say who who scored first in this one.
[21:00] Speaker 2: Emmy scored first, Miami scored first. I think we had
[21:04] Speaker 2: the Mario pose. I don't know if it was after
[21:06] Speaker 2: a blocked field. There was some moment where he had
[21:09] Speaker 2: the pose. I believe Mario had the Beamer pose.
[21:13] Speaker 1: It was zero zero at half. It was three to
[21:15] Speaker 1: three until late in the game when Miami scored to
[21:18] Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown with a little under four minutes left
[21:21] Speaker 1: in the game. The win played a huge factor. Yeah,
[21:24] Speaker 1: this game, kickers were two of six in total. Miami's
[21:28] Speaker 1: Carter Davis missed three field goals. He kicked one. I
[21:30] Speaker 1: believe it was his second miss, and you and I
[21:33] Speaker 1: were chatting about this one on slack. He kicked the ball,
[21:37] Speaker 1: it looked like it was online and then it got
[21:40] Speaker 1: hit by the wind whipping off the planes, just a
[21:43] Speaker 1: wall of something that pushed it wide right. It was
[21:47] Speaker 1: the second miss on the day. He also had a
[21:49] Speaker 1: doink at some point or another. It was really rough
[21:53] Speaker 1: for the kickers. I don't even blame them. It was
[21:56] Speaker 1: really windy out there.
[21:57] Speaker 2: And my twenties is what I thought. I want to say,
[22:01] Speaker 2: who was doing this game? McDonough and McDonald leroy, Yeah, yeah,
[22:04] Speaker 2: that's what they were pointing to near thirty mile an
[22:06] Speaker 2: hour wins.
[22:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought McElroy, to his credit, it just
[22:10] Speaker 1: as I was thinking it. McDonough asks the question, Hey, Greg,
[22:16] Speaker 1: when you're playing quarterback in wins like this, what does
[22:20] Speaker 1: it do to the deep ball. It was right after
[22:23] Speaker 1: Carson Beck airmailed a ball to somebody I forget who,
[22:27] Speaker 1: who had a step on a Texas A and M defender.
[22:30] Speaker 1: It was way over his head. He clearly didn't want
[22:32] Speaker 1: to underthrow it dealing with wind, and that's why it
[22:35] Speaker 1: was just, you know, way over the guy's head and
[22:39] Speaker 1: McElroy brought it up. He was like, look, it's really tough.
[22:42] Speaker 1: It's different if you've got sustained wins in one direction,
[22:45] Speaker 1: but that was not the case in Kyle Field. You
[22:47] Speaker 1: had swirling wins that were all over the place. It
[22:49] Speaker 1: kept changing direction, it kept intensifying as the game wore on.
[22:54] Speaker 1: So this was a real challenge and I think that's
[22:56] Speaker 1: at least part of the reason why Carson Beck had
[22:58] Speaker 1: one hundred and three yards past. They didn't even really
[23:02] Speaker 1: resort to trying to stretch the field all that much
[23:05] Speaker 1: through the air. Thankfully, they had Mark Fletcher, who had
[23:09] Speaker 1: a terrific game on the ground for the Canes, and
[23:12] Speaker 1: we could talk through that here.
[23:13] Speaker 2: Almost in spite of Shannon Dawson and the Miami offensive
[23:18] Speaker 2: brain trust, like it feels very counter to like the
[23:22] Speaker 2: ideal of Miami football under Mario Christobal, which is just
[23:25] Speaker 2: mashing teams and wearing them down and then maybe hitting
[23:28] Speaker 2: play action situations to a tight end or in this
[23:31] Speaker 2: case Malachai Toni. They went away from Mark Fletcher, who
[23:34] Speaker 2: I think was averaging even before that long run that
[23:36] Speaker 2: helped to ice things near the end and set up
[23:39] Speaker 2: that score. He was averaging like eight yards of carry,
[23:42] Speaker 2: especially running between the tackles, and obviously they went to
[23:45] Speaker 2: him in that moment. I was like, fifty sixty yard run.
[23:47] Speaker 2: But it was weird that Mark Fletcher went as long
[23:51] Speaker 2: as he did without consistently getting the rock.
[23:54] Speaker 1: I kind of feel like we nailed the preview for
[23:57] Speaker 1: this one, and I.
[23:59] Speaker 2: Say I didn't fully, but continue, well, we had elements of.
[24:03] Speaker 1: This game, right. I think we had the right idea.
[24:05] Speaker 1: We both thought there'd be more points. There's no way
[24:07] Speaker 1: anyone predicted ten three. I think you had twenty seventeen.
[24:11] Speaker 1: I thought it would be quasi shootout, and I had
[24:16] Speaker 1: it at thirty eight thirty five. But we definitely figured
[24:19] Speaker 1: on this one being a close, physical game, and for
[24:24] Speaker 1: my part, I called out big plays and who was
[24:28] Speaker 1: going to get more of them and Miami's offensive line,
[24:32] Speaker 1: and both of those absolutely came into play. So if
[24:34] Speaker 1: you look back at this game, A and M did
[24:37] Speaker 1: have a fifty nine yard pass to Mario Craver and
[24:40] Speaker 1: four other plays over ten yards, but nothing over twenty. No,
[24:44] Speaker 1: Miami had the fifty six yard run by Mark Fletcher
[24:48] Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, which set up the game winning touchdown.
[24:50] Speaker 1: For my money, that was kind of the turning point
[24:52] Speaker 1: of the game, at least the latter half of the game.
[24:55] Speaker 1: But beyond that, eight plays of more than ten yards,
[24:57] Speaker 1: two for more than twenty So Miami had a slight
[25:01] Speaker 1: edge with respect to getting those big plays, those chunk
[25:06] Speaker 1: plays that can turn field position on its head, give
[25:10] Speaker 1: a team a certain amount of momentum. And on the
[25:13] Speaker 1: Miami offensive line front, you can make a really strong
[25:16] Speaker 1: case that Mark Fletcher was the difference in this one.
[25:18] Speaker 1: He finished seventeen for one to seventy two, averaged a
[25:21] Speaker 1: shade over ten per carry. He was the one who
[25:24] Speaker 1: I thought gave the Kines the biggest lyft on offense
[25:27] Speaker 1: down the stretch. He was running hard. I mean, as
[25:31] Speaker 1: I said, Carson Beck only threw for a shade over
[25:33] Speaker 1: one hundred yards. They were reliant to some extent on
[25:36] Speaker 1: Mark Fletcher ripping off some of those big runs putting
[25:39] Speaker 1: them in position. And so this was not necessarily what
[25:43] Speaker 1: we all had on the Bingo card, because despite the
[25:46] Speaker 1: fact A and M's had a bit of a tendency
[25:48] Speaker 1: to give up some big plays this year, both through
[25:50] Speaker 1: the air and on the ground, Mark Fletcher, amid some
[25:55] Speaker 1: of the other talent that this Cane's roster has sometimes
[25:59] Speaker 1: fades into the background, not for lack of performance, but
[26:02] Speaker 1: just because there are a lot of other more exciting
[26:04] Speaker 1: names to talk about when we do recaps like this.
[26:07] Speaker 1: But Mark Fletcher did his part. His mom was going
[26:10] Speaker 1: crazy in the stands, which was a cool. Yeah.
[26:12] Speaker 2: They were talking about how she was driving all over
[26:13] Speaker 2: the country for his games.
[26:14] Speaker 1: What's detail from McDonough talk about a pros pro talking
[26:18] Speaker 1: about how she drove from Miami to the colgame.
[26:22] Speaker 2: Should say to the Bay Area? Yeah, for the wild
[26:24] Speaker 2: game against the Bears.
[26:26] Speaker 1: Yeah. How long of a drive is that?
[26:28] Speaker 2: If you go straight through and you have cold brew
[26:32] Speaker 2: that's likely illegal in most states, you could probably do
[26:35] Speaker 2: it in a couple days and fifty some odd hours.
[26:38] Speaker 2: I don't know, crazy, but early Okay. Here was the
[26:42] Speaker 2: story of the game to me. The story of the
[26:45] Speaker 2: game to me was the matchup between Miami's defensive line
[26:50] Speaker 2: against what seemed to be a confident Texas A and
[26:52] Speaker 2: M offensive line, and then what they were able to
[26:56] Speaker 2: do to Marcel Reid, what they were able to do
[26:58] Speaker 2: to affect the comfort levels of this Texas A and
[27:01] Speaker 2: M offense. I did not love how this game was
[27:04] Speaker 2: called by Colin Kleine. New Kansas State head coach. Colin Klein,
[27:06] Speaker 2: by the way, didn't like the game plan in this one.
[27:09] Speaker 2: And even so when Marcel Reid just sort of could
[27:13] Speaker 2: play with just id right going down the field late
[27:17] Speaker 2: in this game to set up a potential tying touchdown,
[27:20] Speaker 2: aided of course by some mental lapses from the Miami defense,
[27:25] Speaker 2: they made plays and until that point though ruben Bain
[27:30] Speaker 2: was everywhere, Key Mesidor was everywhere. I thought the linebackers
[27:33] Speaker 2: were sensational. Obviously, was it Bryce Fitzgerald who had an
[27:38] Speaker 2: interception early I think on an overthrow and then had
[27:41] Speaker 2: the game ceiling intercept for freshman I believe, Yeah, So
[27:46] Speaker 2: I just on all three levels this defense was. It
[27:49] Speaker 2: was an outstanding game plan for Miami. They suffocated an
[27:52] Speaker 2: overwhelmed Texas A and m upfront A and IM couldn't
[27:54] Speaker 2: do anything on the ground. That to me was the
[27:56] Speaker 2: difference is play to play Miami. It was just a
[28:00] Speaker 2: wrecking ball up front and still had the opportunity to
[28:04] Speaker 2: lose this game with Marcel red driving to tie this game.
[28:07] Speaker 2: And it was a great couple plays, by the way,
[28:10] Speaker 2: because there was a break a pass breakup play and before.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Was the pass breakup targeting. It was a hard hit.
[28:18] Speaker 2: It was a hard hit with a very specific part
[28:21] Speaker 2: of the crown.
[28:22] Speaker 1: I don't know. I was I was curious that nobody
[28:25] Speaker 1: mentioned that or why nobody mentioned that, And it kind
[28:33] Speaker 1: of looked like targeting to me. It's not even to
[28:35] Speaker 1: say that. Even if they call it Texas A and
[28:37] Speaker 1: M gets the points and they win the game or
[28:39] Speaker 1: a tie the game, in this case, I thought that
[28:43] Speaker 1: was It kind of looked like targeting to me, and
[28:44] Speaker 1: nobody talked to it, just like everybody panned it. Nothing
[28:47] Speaker 1: to see here.
[28:48] Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I'd have to watch it back again. Yeah,
[28:51] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[28:52] Speaker 1: I would like to see more of it. I only
[28:54] Speaker 1: watched it like seventy five times on replay before we
[28:57] Speaker 1: hit record. Okay, but know that to me was a bit.
[29:02] Speaker 2: Curious, but I would I would have liked to see
[29:05] Speaker 2: more in the way of creatively utilizing marcel Reads athleticism
[29:11] Speaker 2: in that spot right, that is where he is so elusive,
[29:14] Speaker 2: that's where he's so great improvising where you have to
[29:17] Speaker 2: respect his feet and his athleticism to such a crazy
[29:21] Speaker 2: degree that I was disappointed with not that they were
[29:25] Speaker 2: asking him to pass it in that spot, but it
[29:28] Speaker 2: seemed like a very plain way to try and score.
[29:31] Speaker 1: I've completely agree, completely agree, So let me throw this
[29:35] Speaker 1: out there just to put a ball on what you're
[29:37] Speaker 1: talking about with Miami's defensive front. I are seven sacks
[29:42] Speaker 1: excuse me of Marcel read A, Key Mesidor and Reuben
[29:46] Speaker 1: Bain combined for four and a half of those seven.
[29:49] Speaker 1: They are ridiculous. I am crazy curious to see what
[29:53] Speaker 1: that matchup books like against Ohio State. I think it's
[29:56] Speaker 1: going to be fascinating when they play a little bit
[29:58] Speaker 1: later on this.
[29:59] Speaker 2: Year, especially with what Ohio State didn't look like up
[30:04] Speaker 2: front on offense against Indiana. And basically they're only true
[30:08] Speaker 2: test after that Texas game in terms of playing a
[30:11] Speaker 2: truly ferocious defense. All due respect to Penn State, they
[30:14] Speaker 2: just were not that team this year. So yes, that's
[30:18] Speaker 2: going to be an incredible match and that's indoors, so
[30:21] Speaker 2: we won't have to be dealing with any sort of
[30:22] Speaker 2: wind issues. They're playing that one at Jerry World correct.
[30:26] Speaker 1: Thank god the wind. So the other thing that I
[30:28] Speaker 1: would mention, just while we're talking about the defense in
[30:32] Speaker 1: this matchup, both units were awesome on first and second down.
[30:37] Speaker 1: Miami had a total of twelve drives. A and M
[30:40] Speaker 1: forced twelve third down tries. They average one per drive.
[30:44] Speaker 1: They were only three of twelve, so they weren't a
[30:46] Speaker 1: great third down team in this one at all. A
[30:48] Speaker 1: and M had eleven drives and eighteen third down tries.
[30:52] Speaker 1: They went eight of eighteen. So both defenses were keeping
[30:56] Speaker 1: their opponent off schedule forcing some of those third down situations.
[31:01] Speaker 1: And again, just like I said with the previous matchup,
[31:04] Speaker 1: you force those third downs, it gives your offense and
[31:07] Speaker 1: opportunity to get better field position, to get a little
[31:10] Speaker 1: bit of momentum, if nothing more, get the defense off
[31:12] Speaker 1: the field. So you know, this was I thought a
[31:19] Speaker 1: game that when a much different direction than we thought,
[31:22] Speaker 1: even though we got some of the key elements right.
[31:25] Speaker 1: And the way that Miami sort of found itself in
[31:27] Speaker 1: the second half, it screams that Miami found itself in
[31:32] Speaker 1: the second half when you look at some of the
[31:34] Speaker 1: advanced stats. Two point eight yards per play in the
[31:36] Speaker 1: first half, eight point seven yards per play in the
[31:39] Speaker 1: second half, So they've definitely figured something out. They are
[31:42] Speaker 1: moving on again. Your final here was a ten to
[31:45] Speaker 1: three thriller in College Station. Texas Miami, now, as we mentioned,
[31:51] Speaker 1: is going to square off against Ohio State in the
[31:54] Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. It is on New Year's Eve, seven pm
[31:58] Speaker 1: Eastern time. The early line is Ohio State minus nine
[32:02] Speaker 1: and one half points. Stan, Wow, that's a numbers.
[32:06] Speaker 2: My final two thoughts in this one, by the way,
[32:09] Speaker 2: is ultimately I think I came away pretty like whatever
[32:13] Speaker 2: the wind is, whatever the passing game is, whatever. The
[32:15] Speaker 2: a rhythmic nature of Carson Beck today was Mario Chris
[32:20] Speaker 2: Baal made decisions in this one in short yarded situations,
[32:23] Speaker 2: in go kick moments. You know, they had the short
[32:27] Speaker 2: kick I want to say it was like a twenty
[32:28] Speaker 2: six yard kick or whatever on fourth and goal. That
[32:33] Speaker 2: sort of underscored his thought that this Texas A and
[32:37] Speaker 2: M offense, for lack of a better term, wasn't shit right.
[32:41] Speaker 2: The decisions he made were like, if we pin them
[32:43] Speaker 2: inside their twenty five, they're just not gonna be able
[32:45] Speaker 2: to drive the ball at all. Yeah, And so that
[32:47] Speaker 2: was his calculus and his thinking in those decisions. It
[32:50] Speaker 2: nearly came back to bite them on that final drive
[32:53] Speaker 2: to tie it.
[32:55] Speaker 1: I messaged you, what's this defense? Right now. I didn't.
[32:58] Speaker 1: I didn't get it. They're going to lose.
[33:01] Speaker 2: But I guess you can't argue with the final result,
[33:07] Speaker 2: right that Mario Chrisal made those decisions based on thinking
[33:12] Speaker 2: and believing with his whole heart that Miami's defense could
[33:17] Speaker 2: not be trounced, and for the most part, he was right.
[33:24] Speaker 2: The other thing I just to put a bowl on
[33:25] Speaker 2: this whole thing is Notre Dame's not in this playoff
[33:28] Speaker 2: because they lost to a team who scored zero touchdowns
[33:30] Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Right.
[33:34] Speaker 2: I wrote that, I did some like back of my
[33:36] Speaker 2: envelope math Notre Dame, both these teams. I know they
[33:39] Speaker 2: lost to both of these teams. But the Texas A
[33:41] Speaker 2: and m game was at home. It was after week one.
[33:43] Speaker 2: You had the opportunity to not give up forty one points. No, listen,
[33:47] Speaker 2: I'm not And that was a final Marcel Reid throw
[33:50] Speaker 2: to the end zone.
[33:51] Speaker 1: And this was a final Marcel read throw to the
[33:53] Speaker 1: end zone. I just saw.
[33:55] Speaker 2: I just saw some parallels here, and there's your there's
[33:58] Speaker 2: your bowl. They're not your Bowl game, there's your opening
[34:00] Speaker 2: round playoff win for Miami. Super impressive. Acc is on.
[34:03] Speaker 1: To the quarters. We both called it too. We both
[34:06] Speaker 1: we both did have Miami on the road, Yes, we did.
[34:08] Speaker 1: We did well on these. That brings us to the
[34:11] Speaker 1: other two games, Dan oh Miss forty one two lane ten.
[34:17] Speaker 1: We just want to we just went final in the
[34:19] Speaker 1: Oregon JMU game, HU fifty one to thirty four, or
[34:25] Speaker 1: if you won thirty four, fifty one to thirty four,
[34:27] Speaker 1: was your final? Oregon takes out James Madison.
[34:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't comment on exactly what happened in that
[34:33] Speaker 2: fourth quarter because we started our stream, but I saw
[34:36] Speaker 2: some Oregon that it wasn't all like starters out. There
[34:40] Speaker 2: were some guys in, but it was some you know,
[34:42] Speaker 2: third fourth string guys in the secondary making mistakes. And
[34:46] Speaker 2: that's on Dan Lanning, that's on Tosh Lupoi feeling like
[34:49] Speaker 2: they wanted to get some more depth the action in
[34:52] Speaker 2: this one. So it seems that Jamu kept fighting and
[34:55] Speaker 2: kept moving the ball against Oregon. Maybe it was against
[34:57] Speaker 2: some starters. I don't know, I haven't I haven't looked
[34:59] Speaker 2: at it yet, but I do know that when Oregon's
[35:03] Speaker 2: first string offense was in, Dante Moore had something like
[35:07] Speaker 2: seventeen yards per attempt deep into this game, and they
[35:11] Speaker 2: were getting whatever they wanted on offense, and they were
[35:14] Speaker 2: distancing themselves. I don't know if it was JMU actually
[35:17] Speaker 2: just like fighting back against good Oregon players, or if
[35:21] Speaker 2: it was Oregon, you know, taking their foot off the
[35:23] Speaker 2: gas a little bit too soon, but it did. For
[35:27] Speaker 2: the stretch I watched, it did seem like Oregon was
[35:30] Speaker 2: completely outclassing JMU, especially just the offensive players seem so
[35:34] Speaker 2: much faster than the foot speed of what JMU had
[35:36] Speaker 2: to offer on defense, and the Oregon defensive line seemed
[35:39] Speaker 2: to be overwhelming jmu's front on offense. But I'll go
[35:42] Speaker 2: back and watch this second half more closely.
[35:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, and for what it's worth, if you had JMU
[35:46] Speaker 1: plus the twenty one and.
[35:47] Speaker 2: A half, yeah, congratulations, you hit your bet. Decorian Moore
[35:52] Speaker 2: came back, Gary Bryant came back. Evan Stewart I think
[35:56] Speaker 2: is reportedly closer to coming back and it was listed
[35:59] Speaker 2: as questionable. All I want to say in this one,
[36:02] Speaker 2: so Decory Moore and Gary Bryant had missed about a
[36:06] Speaker 2: month after that Iowa game, and Oregon seems more robust
[36:13] Speaker 2: and versatile on offense when they're in there. They had
[36:15] Speaker 2: some long plays and so Oregon now gets Texas Tech
[36:18] Speaker 2: with a healthier offensive roster, and guys have been stepping
[36:22] Speaker 2: up Malik Benson and Jeremiah McClellan, and certainly they've been
[36:25] Speaker 2: rotating the running backs really well and the line seems
[36:27] Speaker 2: healthy after they were beat up.
[36:30] Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Game should be super fun in Miami. In Miami, yep,
[36:34] Speaker 1: it's Capitol and Orange Bowl. Look, I'm going to have
[36:37] Speaker 1: a conversation here in a second about G five and
[36:40] Speaker 1: its place in the current college football playoff structure. Right,
[36:45] Speaker 1: get to that in a second. What I'll say about
[36:47] Speaker 1: JMU A lot of pieces on this team that actually
[36:52] Speaker 1: really like I thought, Alonza Barnett, for his part, definitely
[36:57] Speaker 1: under assault from the Morgan defense. To put it mildly,
[37:03] Speaker 1: but nice player, got a lot of wiggle, was able
[37:07] Speaker 1: to make some guys miss had a touchdown on the
[37:09] Speaker 1: ground through for two seventy three and two scores, no interceptions. Okay,
[37:14] Speaker 1: sure they didn't win, they got blown out, but I
[37:17] Speaker 1: thought he quitted himself. Well, Wayne Knight, I can't where's
[37:22] Speaker 1: my sound? Hello? I had three people send me separately
[37:26] Speaker 1: messages asking me, wait, is that the Wayne Night? No,
[37:30] Speaker 1: it's not the Wayne Knight.
[37:31] Speaker 2: What do you mean the people were asking you if
[37:34] Speaker 2: the guy who's now in his sixties. Yeah, I want
[37:36] Speaker 2: to say, they're like.
[37:37] Speaker 1: Wait, is that the same No, it's not the same
[37:39] Speaker 1: way Night. What are we talking about here? I don't
[37:42] Speaker 1: know who has your numbers? See exactly? Yeah, No it's
[37:46] Speaker 1: not the same guy. Okay, funny name though, Wayne, good name,
[37:50] Speaker 1: and there's a Michael Scott on this roster to be
[37:52] Speaker 1: clear as well.
[37:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked good, So I look, I'm we will get.
[37:57] Speaker 1: To that part of the show. We will talk about
[37:59] Speaker 1: whether JAMU belongs here, whether it didn't belong here. Apparently
[38:03] Speaker 1: they kept fighting. Fifty one to thirty four was the
[38:05] Speaker 1: final when we came on the air. I think it
[38:08] Speaker 1: was just forty something to twenty six, right, So they
[38:13] Speaker 1: have been fighting their way through here. They made it
[38:15] Speaker 1: to this game. They were on the road. Bob Chesney,
[38:18] Speaker 1: now is going to be off to UCLA and Oregon
[38:21] Speaker 1: is going to square off against Texas Tech and the
[38:23] Speaker 1: Capitol One Orange Bowl. You care to venture a guess
[38:25] Speaker 1: on what that projected point spread looks like in the
[38:29] Speaker 1: Orange Bowl? Yeah?
[38:31] Speaker 3: Who?
[38:31] Speaker 1: Oregon, Texas Tech? Who should be favored in that game?
[38:34] Speaker 2: Based on Oregon playing this week and Texas Tech with
[38:37] Speaker 2: a longer break. I think I have slightly more confidence
[38:41] Speaker 2: in Oregon if both of these teams are playing somewhere
[38:43] Speaker 2: near their best football. So I'd say between one and
[38:46] Speaker 2: three points, or I guess a toss up.
[38:49] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The number that I saw at the start
[38:52] Speaker 1: of the week when they started running some projected point
[38:55] Speaker 1: spreads was one and a half. Okay, it looks as
[38:58] Speaker 1: if it has opened at that one and a half number.
[39:01] Speaker 1: That's going to jump around. I think of the point
[39:03] Speaker 1: spreads that we've been kicking around here, that's probably the
[39:05] Speaker 1: one I'm most interested in following over the course of
[39:08] Speaker 1: the next you know, seven to ten days, whatever it is,
[39:11] Speaker 1: till they play this one again. It's on New Year's Day.
[39:14] Speaker 1: It's the first game on New Year's Day. It's going
[39:16] Speaker 1: to be a nooner down there at the Orange Bowl
[39:18] Speaker 1: between Oregon and Texas Tech. These teams have played three
[39:22] Speaker 1: times in their history, twice in the nineties, once two
[39:25] Speaker 1: years ago in a really fun game that featured Bo
[39:28] Speaker 1: Nicks against Tyler Schuck.
[39:30] Speaker 2: FYI that's right, did a little That was a last
[39:33] Speaker 2: second win for Oregon.
[39:34] Speaker 1: Thirty eight to thirty. I believe it was a final.
[39:37] Speaker 1: It was a pick six. I put that put the
[39:40] Speaker 1: icing on the cake there. Oregon moving on again. They
[39:44] Speaker 1: were a healthy favorite. They definitely lived up to that.
[39:48] Speaker 1: They did not cover the point spread. I don't I
[39:50] Speaker 1: think there's much. I think they're up thirty five in
[39:52] Speaker 1: the third quarter. Yes, it was like forty eight to thirteen. Yeah.
[39:56] Speaker 1: On the other and final front in the first round
[40:01] Speaker 1: of college football playoff, ole Miss won by thirty one
[40:04] Speaker 1: over two Lane. Forty one to ten was your final.
[40:09] Speaker 1: Ole Miss needed just three plays and fifty nine seconds
[40:12] Speaker 1: to score their first touchdown of the game. Then Jake
[40:17] Speaker 1: Retzov Tulane got the ball back. They went on a
[40:19] Speaker 1: really nice drive, long drive, drain, like five minutes off
[40:22] Speaker 1: the clock. I'm thinking, all right, hey, here we go. Yeah,
[40:25] Speaker 1: a little game, oh little bit of a game. Interception.
[40:30] Speaker 1: I set it out loud, Dan, it's over. Ye. Ole
[40:34] Speaker 1: Miss gets the ball back. They score on four plays.
[40:37] Speaker 1: Ole Miss needed seven plays to go up fourteen to zip.
[40:41] Speaker 1: All in all, they had twelve drives. They scored on
[40:44] Speaker 1: seven of them. You can actually say they scored on
[40:47] Speaker 1: eight of eleven because they took a knee on that
[40:49] Speaker 1: last drive, or could have scored an eighth time if
[40:52] Speaker 1: they didn't take a knee on that last drive. So
[40:55] Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot of resistance on the two
[40:58] Speaker 1: lane front. This was a runaway train. Ole Miss was
[41:02] Speaker 1: a big play machine. They had eleven passes of fifteen
[41:06] Speaker 1: or more yards. They had four runs of fifteen or
[41:09] Speaker 1: more yards. They got good push up front. Trinidad Chambliss
[41:12] Speaker 1: had all day Defensively, they got pressure without blitzing, all
[41:15] Speaker 1: the stuff. Everything that you might have expected about a
[41:18] Speaker 1: matchup like this, we saw all of it. The other
[41:22] Speaker 1: thing that you might have expected or at least watched for,
[41:25] Speaker 1: was is this gonna look like a different Old Miss
[41:28] Speaker 1: team because Lane Kiffin isn't there. We didn't see that
[41:30] Speaker 1: at all. It looked like the same Old Miss team
[41:32] Speaker 1: we've been watching all season one.
[41:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, and Charlie Weis Junior had been calling the offense. Obviously,
[41:36] Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin making those big decisions and game planning throughout
[41:40] Speaker 2: the week and having a role in what that offense
[41:42] Speaker 2: looked like. But it looked like it didn't really miss
[41:44] Speaker 2: a beat. Not an overwhelming performance from Keiwan Lacy, who
[41:47] Speaker 2: I want to say was a little bit beat up Trinidad.
[41:49] Speaker 2: Chambliss left for a minute in this one that obviously
[41:53] Speaker 2: seemed to be a little bit scary, but he came
[41:54] Speaker 2: back and didn't seem to miss a beat, spread the
[41:56] Speaker 2: ball around really nicely. And the big thing to me
[41:59] Speaker 2: was the old Miss defense, which at times this year
[42:02] Speaker 2: has been a little leaky, and they have they take
[42:04] Speaker 2: on who Georgia again right in their next round, YEP,
[42:08] Speaker 2: and so we'll see if this type of defensive performance
[42:11] Speaker 2: goes on Tulane. The numbers are sort of not indicative
[42:15] Speaker 2: at all. Tulane couldn't really do anything in this one.
[42:17] Speaker 2: I think they put up something like one hundred and
[42:19] Speaker 2: twenty some odd yards after they were down by thirty eight,
[42:23] Speaker 2: and so it made sort of their their totals look
[42:25] Speaker 2: better than they actually were. But Tulane could not figure
[42:28] Speaker 2: this out. They could not stay on the field and
[42:31] Speaker 2: there was just a ton of grass in vod Hemingway
[42:34] Speaker 2: for this Ole Miss offense. So a thorough beat down
[42:38] Speaker 2: and good for all Miss in this position without their
[42:41] Speaker 2: head coach for the majority of the season, and so
[42:45] Speaker 2: you could see the sort of relief and excitement in
[42:48] Speaker 2: Pete Golding's face in this one. As the game wore on,
[42:52] Speaker 2: and look, they look like Ole Miss, and they looked
[42:55] Speaker 2: like we weren't sure would or to what extent they
[42:58] Speaker 2: look like Ole Miss.
[43:00] Speaker 1: They looked like all Miss. And you know, on the
[43:02] Speaker 1: Tulane front, at times they were able to get a
[43:05] Speaker 1: little bit going on the ground, so that was a
[43:07] Speaker 1: bright spot. Jake Reetzloff I thought, for the most part,
[43:10] Speaker 1: looked okay. He didn't have a whole lot of help.
[43:13] Speaker 1: He was under assault the entire game, and you know,
[43:17] Speaker 1: it had some nice moments in this one, but it
[43:20] Speaker 1: just wasn't enough. And as was very much the case
[43:23] Speaker 1: on the Oregon JMU side, we saw that with Oregon
[43:26] Speaker 1: or Old Miss Tulane as well. There's just such a
[43:30] Speaker 1: huge talent disparity. There's a huge talent disparity, and try
[43:34] Speaker 1: as they might, Tulane just did not have what it
[43:36] Speaker 1: took to run with Old Miss. Even though they had
[43:39] Speaker 1: a few drives where it seems like maybe they were
[43:41] Speaker 1: getting something together, they they did not have enough playmakers
[43:45] Speaker 1: to realistically match up with this Ole Miss squad.
[43:48] Speaker 2: So which is why we use the term Winter Wonders,
[43:52] Speaker 2: which is why we use the term that like you
[43:54] Speaker 2: are needing to count on specific playmakers if it's a
[43:58] Speaker 2: tight game, if it's a game where where you just
[44:00] Speaker 2: need to take it seriously enough, and you have players
[44:03] Speaker 2: on your roster, whether it's you know, Oregon, Ole Miss,
[44:06] Speaker 2: or any of these teams that you get to see
[44:08] Speaker 2: them against overmatch teams, you're like, it's just a speed thing.
[44:12] Speaker 2: It's just a it's not a desire thing, it's not
[44:15] Speaker 2: a fundamentals thing. It is just this is a much
[44:18] Speaker 2: better football player thing that Ole Miss had that Tulane didn't.
[44:22] Speaker 2: And sometimes these schools have those dudes, and it just
[44:26] Speaker 2: didn't happen uh to occur this afternoon tonight in these games.
[44:30] Speaker 1: You mentioned this, But h Ole Miss is going to
[44:33] Speaker 1: scare off now against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. This
[44:36] Speaker 1: is the game on New Year's Day, eight pm start time,
[44:39] Speaker 1: as you used to with the Sugar Bowl. It is
[44:41] Speaker 1: a rematch of a game that we saw in Athens, Georgia,
[44:46] Speaker 1: one that won forty three to thirty five back on
[44:49] Speaker 1: October the eighteenth. I suffice to say, probably a bit
[44:53] Speaker 1: of a coaching advantage in the favor of Kirby spart
[44:57] Speaker 1: and the George Bulldogs. But Ole missus dangerous team. If
[45:00] Speaker 1: they play like this, for whatever you make of this game,
[45:04] Speaker 1: if they play like this, they're dangerous. And we saw
[45:07] Speaker 1: that the first time around. It was a very tight affair.
[45:09] Speaker 1: Curious to see what it looks like now again, All
[45:13] Speaker 1: stage Sugar Bowl, your traditional start time at eight PM game.
[45:18] Speaker 2: That game, by the way, was an overwhelming Gunner Stockton performance,
[45:22] Speaker 2: who was like shaky a little bit at times to
[45:25] Speaker 2: start the season, and what he was able to do
[45:28] Speaker 2: against ole Miss in that one obviously sort of foreshadowed
[45:31] Speaker 2: what the back half of his season look like. I
[45:33] Speaker 2: guess the only thing ole Miss may have going for it.
[45:36] Speaker 2: I mean, look, it has a lot going for it.
[45:38] Speaker 2: Ole Miss has a what we nobody knew would be
[45:41] Speaker 2: an excellent quarterback coming in in relief of Austin Simmons,
[45:44] Speaker 2: and Trinidad Chambliss and Kewan Lacy stepped up all season long,
[45:47] Speaker 2: the defense seemed to improve. There's a lot going for
[45:49] Speaker 2: ole Miss more broadly speaking, but because you mentioned the
[45:52] Speaker 2: coaching advantage, there is a mysterious quality right that ole
[45:57] Speaker 2: Miss has in peak holding. Kirby Smart doesn't have experience
[46:01] Speaker 2: coaching against Pete Golding completely an experienced coach. Right, So
[46:05] Speaker 2: in terms of tendency, in terms of game planning, obviously
[46:08] Speaker 2: the coordinators are the same, but what the rhythm is like,
[46:12] Speaker 2: what might be different in a huge game like an
[46:15] Speaker 2: old Miss Georgia rematch. There might be some mystery that's
[46:19] Speaker 2: me reaching to be clear, but that is it is
[46:23] Speaker 2: a different experience for Kirby Smart that he might not
[46:26] Speaker 2: be able to lean on, Like this is what Lane
[46:28] Speaker 2: Kiffin is going to lean on.
[46:29] Speaker 1: We are content creators and sometimes we need to create
[46:32] Speaker 1: the content. So we'll see, we'll see, we will get
[46:34] Speaker 1: to that again. We're going to do our quarterfinal preview.
[46:38] Speaker 2: Did you see lang Kin and tweeting zeeding on ex
[46:41] Speaker 2: cole in the Everything app during the game, He basically
[46:44] Speaker 2: said he was He was tweeting like, hey man, why
[46:46] Speaker 2: can't we just root for both of these teams? Just
[46:49] Speaker 2: not the week that they play each other, Like let's
[46:51] Speaker 2: all be friends. Okay, man, you chose to leave, all right,
[46:58] Speaker 2: that's all.
[47:00] Speaker 1: Can I ask a favor of you? You can. I
[47:02] Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna fulfill it, but all you
[47:03] Speaker 1: can ask. I desperately want a dramatic drive reading oh
[47:08] Speaker 1: Man for the Miami Texas A and m game. Oh,
[47:12] Speaker 1: you want it after the fact. I want it after
[47:14] Speaker 1: the fact. I feel the people demand it. I feel
[47:17] Speaker 1: the people deserve it. This game, I think, above all
[47:21] Speaker 1: the others that we saw on this weekend and especially
[47:26] Speaker 1: the last couple weekends of the season, is a game
[47:29] Speaker 1: that warrants that type of treatment.
[47:33] Speaker 2: So Miami had the potentially worst first half of offense
[47:38] Speaker 2: in collegeot ball playoff history. I saw that somewhere. Yeah,
[47:42] Speaker 2: sixty some odd yards. Okay, So the drive chart for Miami,
[47:45] Speaker 2: Texas A and m ten three final.
[47:48] Speaker 3: Punts, punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt, kickoff, punt punt, missfield
[47:54] Speaker 3: goal downs, miss field goal, field goal interception, miss field
[47:57] Speaker 3: goal punt, punt, field goal, fumble, punt, touchdown interception.
[48:03] Speaker 1: And you timed it perfectly. You got right to like
[48:10] Speaker 1: the crescendo, and you say end of game.
[48:12] Speaker 2: It says kickoff on this drive chart, and that doesn't
[48:15] Speaker 2: make any sense. So I'm not sure what was going
[48:19] Speaker 2: on there. But okay, my final thought here.
[48:25] Speaker 1: Relates to a debate that I believe is going to rage, long, deep,
[48:30] Speaker 1: painfully into the offseason, and that is about G five
[48:35] Speaker 1: teams in the playoff. Okay, So look, you know where
[48:40] Speaker 1: I stand on this. I've been pretty vocal about it.
[48:44] Speaker 1: I think it's a matter of principle. If you are
[48:48] Speaker 1: going to say that all of these teams are in
[48:50] Speaker 1: the same subdivision, everyone should have a pathway to get
[48:54] Speaker 1: into the playoff. I think that's a matter of principle.
[48:58] Speaker 1: I think that's very straightforward. Not saying autobids, I'm just
[49:02] Speaker 1: saying a pathway in. Okay. I may have changed my
[49:06] Speaker 1: tune a little bit, but I believe that there needs
[49:09] Speaker 1: to be a realistic pathway so that everybody can be represented.
[49:12] Speaker 1: Otherwise you need to split them off, come up with
[49:15] Speaker 1: some other situation.
[49:17] Speaker 2: Sure, you can't call them FBS, right, you can't call
[49:19] Speaker 2: an FBS playoff.
[49:20] Speaker 1: Right, come up with something between FBS and FCS. And
[49:24] Speaker 1: that's where G five lives. Okay. You got to get
[49:27] Speaker 1: them to agree to it. You got to make sure
[49:28] Speaker 1: that the money is right, but that that would be
[49:30] Speaker 1: sort of the off ramp here. And I know people
[49:33] Speaker 1: have been screaming at us for the last week. Like,
[49:35] Speaker 1: I sent you a plan, here's my plan. I will
[49:38] Speaker 1: read through all your plans. Okay, I appreciate it. I
[49:40] Speaker 1: appreciate that there is different opinions on this matter. People
[49:45] Speaker 1: feel passionately. I appreciate that, So thank you for emailing
[49:48] Speaker 1: in Soliverble at gmail dot com. If you have a
[49:50] Speaker 1: plan that you'd like to send in Soliverble at gmail
[49:52] Speaker 1: dot com.
[49:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to text Tie directly six to one, Oh,
[49:56] Speaker 2: continue Tie.
[49:58] Speaker 1: I believe out of Prince there should be a pathway in. Okay,
[50:02] Speaker 1: I don't care if it makes for lousy television. I
[50:06] Speaker 1: don't care if it makes for lopsided point spreads. I
[50:11] Speaker 1: don't even care if it's at the expense of the
[50:13] Speaker 1: team that I root for. If you're going to say
[50:16] Speaker 1: that everybody belongs in this subdivision, then everybody in the
[50:20] Speaker 1: subdivision should have a chance to play in the playoff
[50:22] Speaker 1: for the big trophy. That seems logical to me. That said,
[50:28] Speaker 1: what happened this weekend was a very very bad turn
[50:33] Speaker 1: of events for that perspective.
[50:35] Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean, Jamie, you lost by seventeen. It
[50:37] Speaker 2: lost by seventeen.
[50:38] Speaker 1: They put up thirty four an organ The game was
[50:41] Speaker 1: kind of over before it got started. But okay, yeah,
[50:45] Speaker 1: it was just a very bad day for that point
[50:48] Speaker 1: of view. So I don't know where the conversation goes next.
[50:55] Speaker 1: My hunch is that it's never going to end this offseason.
[50:58] Speaker 1: We're going to hear a lot about this. Whatever they
[51:01] Speaker 1: decide to do with the new playoff system, whether it's
[51:06] Speaker 1: go to sixteen or fourteen or God help us twenty four,
[51:10] Speaker 1: whatever it ends up being. All I'm asking for is
[51:14] Speaker 1: a realistic path for teams like Tulane and like James
[51:19] Speaker 1: Madison to still find their way in. I don't want
[51:22] Speaker 1: to throw the baby out with the bathwater. These were
[51:24] Speaker 1: two terrible results if you watch the game. I mean,
[51:26] Speaker 1: I don't care what the final score is with the
[51:28] Speaker 1: Oregon JMU game. That game was over. The game was
[51:31] Speaker 1: over in the first half. Yeah, I don't think we
[51:34] Speaker 1: should look at these results and base all of our
[51:38] Speaker 1: future movement based solely on what happened today. I don't
[51:42] Speaker 1: think that's fair. But I will acknowledge this is not
[51:46] Speaker 1: a good look, and it very much was a situation
[51:51] Speaker 1: where he had two games that were just uncompetitive. They
[51:53] Speaker 1: just weren't. They weren't competitive. And yeah, I don't know
[51:59] Speaker 1: if it means ban of sixteen, and then whichever G
[52:02] Speaker 1: five teams get in, they play the top seeds in
[52:05] Speaker 1: the tournament that type of deal. I don't know. I
[52:08] Speaker 1: don't know what the plan is, but I am not
[52:13] Speaker 1: all that excited to hear where the discourse goes next,
[52:15] Speaker 1: because I think it's just going to be very loud.
[52:18] Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of proud Power Conference fans
[52:21] Speaker 1: out there who are saying that these teams don't belong
[52:24] Speaker 1: and shouldn't play They're playing a different sport. I've heard
[52:26] Speaker 1: that about a thousand different people, and even though it
[52:30] Speaker 1: wasn't competitive, I don't fully agree with that. I just
[52:32] Speaker 1: I hope whatever they do next, they're not going to
[52:34] Speaker 1: cut them out entirely, because I think that would be
[52:36] Speaker 1: that'd be lousy.
[52:38] Speaker 2: Including Joe Tessitur Sean McDonough. Yeah, it was like, okay, guys,
[52:43] Speaker 2: we should talk about this. Let's be real, Like why
[52:45] Speaker 2: are you talking about this?
[52:50] Speaker 1: I hear you.
[52:51] Speaker 2: I'm with you. You know how I feel about this.
[52:54] Speaker 2: I just think this is a uniquely college football problem
[52:59] Speaker 2: that the way it's laid out or not laid out,
[53:02] Speaker 2: or governed or not governed, just creates this oxygen for
[53:09] Speaker 2: like bile to get through in the discussion of all
[53:12] Speaker 2: of this that I think people feel. And it's not
[53:17] Speaker 2: just SEC people, it's not just big ten people, it's
[53:19] Speaker 2: not just power conference people. But people feel this need
[53:23] Speaker 2: to puff out their chest and like put down like
[53:27] Speaker 2: the smaller guy, because they're like, you don't. We are different.
[53:31] Speaker 2: We are in rare air, and it's embarrassing for us
[53:34] Speaker 2: to play against and be associated with you. It doesn't
[53:38] Speaker 2: happen in the NFL when like the New York Giants
[53:41] Speaker 2: lose by forty five in a playoff, how.
[53:44] Speaker 1: Dare you talk about my giants?
[53:45] Speaker 2: Like the only reason I say that is because I
[53:47] Speaker 2: looked up the biggest NFL playoff blowouts of all time.
[53:50] Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of giants in here.
[53:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, there there really is.
[53:53] Speaker 2: Jeff Hosteler really Struggleiz.
[53:55] Speaker 1: You should watch them all year like I did. Been
[53:57] Speaker 1: a great year anyway.
[53:59] Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like we didn't have that
[54:03] Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three about like the NFC East is
[54:06] Speaker 2: an embarrassment, right because they're all under the umbrella of FBS,
[54:10] Speaker 2: They're all under the umbrella of the NFL. Right, we
[54:12] Speaker 2: have blowouts in sports. I want to say that there
[54:15] Speaker 2: was probably a year where I think the Utah Jazz
[54:17] Speaker 2: beat the Bulls by like fifty eight points in an
[54:19] Speaker 2: NBA Finals game. Nobody freaked out. People understand blowouts happen,
[54:24] Speaker 2: and so I just I feel as if there's so
[54:28] Speaker 2: much pride about conference and affiliation because we have been
[54:34] Speaker 2: made to feel like the Big Ten is so crazy
[54:38] Speaker 2: impressive now that it's added, you know, the West Coast
[54:41] Speaker 2: schools and it's this huge thing, and the SEC is
[54:44] Speaker 2: so impressive, and literally commercials say.
[54:46] Speaker 3: It means more.
[54:47] Speaker 1: It means so much more.
[54:50] Speaker 2: When you add Texas and Oklahoma. You have these mega
[54:52] Speaker 2: conferences with these huge schools who've done so many impressive,
[54:55] Speaker 2: legitimately crazy impressive things that you do start getting that
[55:01] Speaker 2: what we talked about, like the country club experience.
[55:04] Speaker 1: We are like, you don't belong with us, You're not.
[55:07] Speaker 2: It's just you're you should have You should start.
[55:09] Speaker 1: Your own club.
[55:10] Speaker 2: That would be a really good move for you, guys.
[55:12] Speaker 2: I love to start your own tournament. You could put
[55:15] Speaker 2: it on True TV, you could sell it to to B. Right,
[55:22] Speaker 2: is that a thing? I think twov is a thing?
[55:24] Speaker 2: T ub Y is it a thing? T U b
[55:27] Speaker 2: I is it TBI?
[55:28] Speaker 1: Excuse me? Yeah?
[55:29] Speaker 2: Right, there's this like dismissive nature, like why don't you guys,
[55:32] Speaker 2: like there's a public park that will host you in
[55:35] Speaker 2: your tournament of small teams, And I just I don't know.
[55:40] Speaker 2: I find the whole thing to be so disingenuous dumb, like,
[55:43] Speaker 2: yes there are blowouts, Yes there are better teams and
[55:45] Speaker 2: worse teams, and we can all make peace with the
[55:48] Speaker 2: fact that, like a Wimbledon final might be six oh
[55:51] Speaker 2: six to one, and that's okay. The person who loses
[55:54] Speaker 2: that that tournament should be allowed to play in the
[55:57] Speaker 2: US Open. And it's just I don't know, it's this
[55:59] Speaker 2: weird thing, like you can look like, should Minnesota be
[56:02] Speaker 2: able to stay in the Big ten? You want to
[56:03] Speaker 2: look at some of their scores from this year, but
[56:06] Speaker 2: there's like this automatic reflex to be like, you are
[56:08] Speaker 2: not of our kind, and I don't know. It's it's
[56:12] Speaker 2: very strange. And this year had two smaller conference teams
[56:16] Speaker 2: in it because Miami couldn't beat SMU or Louisville and
[56:21] Speaker 2: get to the ACC championship game and just become an
[56:24] Speaker 2: automatic qualifier for this conference. Because Duke beat Clemson and
[56:28] Speaker 2: scored forty six, beating club, there's all sorts of reasons
[56:31] Speaker 2: Notre Dame's not in this tournament. Like, there's all sorts
[56:33] Speaker 2: of reasons why we had this like very rare situation
[56:37] Speaker 2: in which we have these two teams in and people
[56:40] Speaker 2: can't just say, like, oh, what a weird year. This
[56:43] Speaker 2: likely will never happen again. They have their digital pitchforks
[56:47] Speaker 2: out like this is embarrassing for this.
[56:49] Speaker 1: Well, and the truth is it won't happen again. They
[56:51] Speaker 1: won't let it.
[56:52] Speaker 2: Of course. They won't want to do is change it
[56:55] Speaker 2: to advantage the already most advantaged, and they'll do it again.
[56:58] Speaker 2: It won't happen again.
[57:00] Speaker 1: I mean. The pressure point that I think we will
[57:04] Speaker 1: hear the most about soonest is the a SEC tiebreaker.
[57:09] Speaker 1: The a SEC tiebreaker, which this year it's probably already changed,
[57:13] Speaker 1: used conference opponent winning percentage instead of CFP rankings to
[57:17] Speaker 1: put a team like Duke ahead of Miami. They will
[57:21] Speaker 1: change that so that moving forward to school like Miami
[57:25] Speaker 1: or whoever in Florida State, maybe Virginia Tech, somebody gets
[57:28] Speaker 1: in via that tiebreaker as opposed to what they had
[57:32] Speaker 1: this year. Doing so would have had Miami, Notre Dame
[57:36] Speaker 1: and Alabama in all likelihood in the college football playoff.
[57:39] Speaker 1: I think that's the first thing you see. But looming
[57:42] Speaker 1: large now, kind of in the backdrop, is this push
[57:45] Speaker 1: to amend the model, come up with a different way.
[57:50] Speaker 1: We've heard talks about this now for the last year
[57:52] Speaker 1: or so, and I look, we've heard Pete Bavaqua. Whatever
[57:57] Speaker 1: you think of Pete Bavaqua's comments on the Notre Dame front,
[58:00] Speaker 1: we've heard him are a great guy, We've heard We've
[58:03] Speaker 1: heard him talk about going up to sixteen. We've heard
[58:06] Speaker 1: others talk about going up to six. Tony Petiti wants
[58:08] Speaker 1: to go up to like forty eight. I don't know, buddy.
[58:10] Speaker 2: We've already changed the framework of this to get Notre
[58:14] Speaker 2: Dame automatic, I know, which.
[58:16] Speaker 1: I also hate. I also hate that. I don't like
[58:19] Speaker 1: that at all. Right, But my only point with all
[58:22] Speaker 1: this is I understand that this is a very bad
[58:25] Speaker 1: look for the G five. Understand it. It's not all
[58:28] Speaker 1: that unexpected. I get where people are coming from. I
[58:31] Speaker 1: understand the argument. I just don't agree with it. And
[58:33] Speaker 1: I hope that whichever direction this goes next, they do
[58:37] Speaker 1: not cut the G five out entirely. If you want
[58:40] Speaker 1: to modify the pathway, so be it just make sure
[58:44] Speaker 1: there is a realistic pathway and not just a dog
[58:47] Speaker 1: and pony show.
[58:49] Speaker 2: I you know, I agree, Ty, you know I agree.
[58:52] Speaker 2: Why don't you have a little tournament on dailymotion dot com?
[58:56] Speaker 2: Why don't you take your little Mountain West Sunbelt altercation
[59:02] Speaker 2: to daily Motion? Does that still exist? I?
[59:06] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[59:07] Speaker 2: I don't think daily Motion is killable. I think it's
[59:10] Speaker 2: gonna be here, it's gonna outlive off us all. Come on, Ty, yeah,
[59:14] Speaker 2: it's it's very strange, but it's not unexpected.
[59:18] Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there? Don't forget if you
[59:21] Speaker 1: made it this far, hit follow hit subscribes that you
[59:23] Speaker 1: do not miss any of our episodes. This, of course,
[59:27] Speaker 1: is a holiday weekend. You're gonna be away, but previewing.
[59:33] Speaker 1: We're going to drop a two episodes. So there is
[59:34] Speaker 1: an episode that's gonna come out Tuesday, which I will
[59:37] Speaker 1: do solo without you, and I'm gonna bring on a guest.
[59:40] Speaker 1: We're gonna talk whatever's topical. You can tell me it
[59:45] Speaker 1: is not Pee Bavaqua. You did not respond to my
[59:47] Speaker 1: emails on ft AH. That'll be Tuesday, and then we're
[59:52] Speaker 1: gonna take off on Thursday. We will have our quarter
[59:55] Speaker 1: final preview waiting for you early on Sunday morning. Again,
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: we get to this weekend. Before you know it, we're
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: gonna start talking about New Year's Eve New Year's Day
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: in those games, so we got to get that preview
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: out on Sunday. We'll continue with the three per week
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: cadence as much as we can, given holidays and given
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: weird college football schedules. Just make sure you're staying tune
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: to all of our episodes here. We'll keep you up
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: to speed as best we can. We'll also post that
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: out in social media for anybody who is unable to listen.
[1:00:27] Speaker 1: The final thing I have here the parting shot is
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: play bowlbingo dot com. Playballbingo dot Com is our offseason game.
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: We've got one that is running right now, locked on
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: Friday evening. It runs for the remainder of the week.
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: We've got another game that's gonna drop very early in
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: the week Monday or Tuesday. That game will lock on Friday. Nice,
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: make sure you get your picks in again. It is
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: a list of thirty prop bets you pick from a
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: list six that you think will take place if you
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: hit all six, if you win the tiebreaker, because you're
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: probably gonna need a tiebreaker. You got a lot of
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: people playing this. You will win a fabulous prize and
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: being that once a week for the next couple of
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: weeks called Bulbingo. It's fun game. Check it out. I
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: truly hope you do. It's the best. That is all
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: we have time for tonight. Dan. We appreciate everybody who
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: hopped on, who watched this live. We appreciate everybody out
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: there in the reballer hood that is listening on demand,
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: wherever it is you may be. We very greatly appreciate
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: your support. Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching,
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: for that guy, Dan, for myself. Tie. You know, the
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: drill is always stay solid. Peace,

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