# Indiana vs Miami: Our CFP National Championship Preview & Predictions | College Football

An episode of [The Solid Verbal College Football Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/270037732), 15 Jan 2026, 1 h 16 min.

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It's the most improbable CFP National Championship game of our lifetime. Can Indiana become one of the greatest sports stories of our lifetime, or will Mario Cristobal win it all at home? In this episode, we dive deep into the 2026 CFP National Championship between the #1 Indiana Hoosiers and the #10 Miami Hurricanes. From the record-breaking ticket prices and weird factoids to seven big picture questions and the most important keys that will decide the game, this is your officially national championship primer episode. Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro 11:03 - 7 Big Questions 38:02 - The Case for the Miami Hurricanes 54:43 - The Case for the Indiana Hoosiers 1:05:05 - Our official predictions Support the show!: https://www.patreon.com/solidverbal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Hell for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.
[0:08] Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well I want to
[0:10] Speaker 3: be happy.
[0:10] Speaker 2: You want to be happy for day Edith State?
[0:13] Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo? And no, Dan and ty Dan Rubinstein,
[0:20] Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, my good friend. It occurred
[0:22] Speaker 1: to me just as I hit the record button that
[0:26] Speaker 1: you and I never officially agreed to what we were
[0:29] Speaker 1: gonna do this episode.
[0:31] Speaker 3: I said, TCU season debrief and you were like, what
[0:33] Speaker 3: are you even talking about? And I was like, well
[0:36] Speaker 3: think about it, and you said no, no, absolutely not.
[0:39] Speaker 2: So where did we land?
[0:40] Speaker 1: I hope you came prepared to talk about the CFP
[0:44] Speaker 1: National Championship Game between Miami and Indiana, because that's what
[0:47] Speaker 1: I did.
[0:47] Speaker 2: It is it is, it is.
[0:48] Speaker 3: We've we've previewed National Championship games each year we've done
[0:51] Speaker 3: this show. We've done it in different ways. I think
[0:53] Speaker 3: we're going to be more direct and hopefully as thorough
[0:56] Speaker 3: as our most thorough shows that we've done in previewing
[0:59] Speaker 3: these monumental games. This is the first time, I believe,
[1:04] Speaker 3: in the history of the Solid Verbal, that we're previewing
[1:07] Speaker 3: either one of these teams in this situation. Yes, we
[1:12] Speaker 3: have not previewed Miami in a national championship game with
[1:14] Speaker 3: not previe in Indiana in a national championship game situation.
[1:17] Speaker 3: We have not even not previewed either of these head
[1:20] Speaker 3: coaches in a national championship situation as head coaches. And
[1:25] Speaker 3: so this feels very new and novel and fresh and clean.
[1:29] Speaker 2: It's great.
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[1:38] Speaker 1: of course have the recap show that we're going to
[1:40] Speaker 1: do immediately in the shadow of the National Championship game
[1:44] Speaker 1: after it goes down on Monday evening. We will of
[1:48] Speaker 1: course continue all throughout the offseason, two episodes per week.
[1:51] Speaker 1: That has been our plan of attack since God knows when,
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[1:58] Speaker 1: after the season to keep you up to speed on
[2:00] Speaker 1: everything going on in and around the world of college football.
[2:03] Speaker 1: But for the time being, yes, we have a very
[2:06] Speaker 1: big game to discuss. The other point that I would
[2:09] Speaker 1: like to make here before we dive in, we do
[2:12] Speaker 1: have Bowl Bingo going on. We've had three weeks of
[2:14] Speaker 1: Bowl bingo. It is free for everybody to play. All
[2:18] Speaker 1: you need to do is go on out to play
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[2:25] Speaker 1: member of our patreon, you don't got to pay. You
[2:27] Speaker 1: can if you want, but you don't have to. If
[2:29] Speaker 1: you want to play the game, all you gotta do
[2:32] Speaker 1: is pick six items from a big old list of
[2:35] Speaker 1: thirty six props that you think may go down in
[2:39] Speaker 1: this national championship game with a tiebreaker, and then close
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[2:47] Speaker 1: pick six things, very straightforward. Couldn't ask for anything more simple.
[2:52] Speaker 1: People have been having a lot of fun with it
[2:54] Speaker 1: so far this season, as they did last. So Playbolebingo
[2:56] Speaker 1: dot com is where you can go if you want
[2:58] Speaker 1: to get in on the action and have a little
[3:00] Speaker 1: bit more root for on Monday night?
[3:04] Speaker 2: Agree?
[3:06] Speaker 1: Shall we dive in? Dan? I think? So let's do
[3:09] Speaker 1: it one more time this season, my good friend Dan.
[3:13] Speaker 1: Time to count any pick of the week. It is
[3:17] Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff National Championship Game. They are playing
[3:22] Speaker 1: it in Miami at hard Rocks Stadium. More to come
[3:26] Speaker 1: on that in just a moment. It is your number
[3:30] Speaker 1: one seed, Indiana Hoosiers at fifteen to oh An eight
[3:35] Speaker 1: and a half point favorite at time of recording, squaring
[3:38] Speaker 1: off against the tenth seeded Miami Hurricanes, who come into
[3:42] Speaker 1: this one with a mark of thirteen and two. You're
[3:46] Speaker 1: over under again at time of recording forty seven and
[3:51] Speaker 1: one half points. Yes, I have some fun facts for you,
[3:55] Speaker 1: Dan Oh.
[3:56] Speaker 2: So, in thatsence you're saying I.
[3:58] Speaker 1: Got something to say, I do. Actually, I have a
[4:01] Speaker 1: couple interesting nuggets that I think you might appreciate. Okay,
[4:06] Speaker 1: some maybe that you knew, Others maybe that you didn't.
[4:09] Speaker 2: I'm ready.
[4:09] Speaker 1: First and foremost, Indiana has never won a national championship,
[4:13] Speaker 1: never won a national championship. They have been playing football
[4:16] Speaker 1: for over one hundred and twenty five years. They only
[4:18] Speaker 1: have three conference championships to their name in football, including
[4:22] Speaker 1: the one that they won this season. They are also
[4:25] Speaker 1: vying to become the first team ever to finish sixteen
[4:29] Speaker 1: to zero in a single season at the FBS level,
[4:33] Speaker 1: and that, of course is because they've expanded the playoff
[4:35] Speaker 1: field and there are more games now and I think
[4:38] Speaker 1: everybody out there can put two and two together. But
[4:40] Speaker 1: just as a point of historical context, interesting thing to
[4:43] Speaker 1: note on the Miami side, their last title was two
[4:47] Speaker 1: thousand and one. The last time they played for a
[4:50] Speaker 1: national championship was actually in the Year of Our Lord
[4:53] Speaker 1: two thousand and three. For the two thousand and two season.
[4:57] Speaker 1: They lost that game in the Fiesta Bowl, then played
[5:00] Speaker 1: in Sun Devil Stadium in double overtime to Ohio State.
[5:04] Speaker 1: The final score of that one was thirty one to
[5:05] Speaker 1: twenty four. And you know, we have talked about that
[5:08] Speaker 1: game a whole multitude of times now over the course
[5:11] Speaker 1: of this show, right this episode, this show, I'm sure
[5:14] Speaker 1: we'll bring it up a thousand more times. But that
[5:16] Speaker 1: was a pivotal game, a watershed game in our history
[5:20] Speaker 1: as college football fans. It meant a lot to us.
[5:22] Speaker 1: Both agree. Also, here's one for you. Miami is playing
[5:27] Speaker 1: this game in their home stadium, but technically on paper,
[5:31] Speaker 1: they are designated as the road team, so I believe
[5:35] Speaker 1: they will be wearing their road uniforms in this game.
[5:38] Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. Interesting different.
[5:41] Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza attended the same high school, Christopher Columbus High
[5:45] Speaker 1: School as Maria Cristopaul and merrickris Ball's classmate and teammate
[5:52] Speaker 1: was Fernando Mendoza's father, so there's been a connective tissue
[5:56] Speaker 1: there and last, but certainly not least Right now, this
[6:00] Speaker 1: figures to be the most expensive National Championship game ticket ever.
[6:05] Speaker 1: So for context, last year between Ohio State and Notre Dame,
[6:09] Speaker 1: the get in price was a little over eighteen hundred
[6:12] Speaker 1: dollars for the cheapest ticket, which where's my sound? That's
[6:15] Speaker 1: a lot of potatoes. That is a lot of potatoes. Yeah,
[6:19] Speaker 1: thus far. I checked stub hub late last night. The
[6:22] Speaker 1: cheapest ticket that I could find is around thirty two hundred. Jeez,
[6:27] Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to go down my hunches.
[6:29] Speaker 1: Even if it does, it won't dip below eighteen hundred dogs.
[6:32] Speaker 1: So if you're looking to get in again, that's a
[6:36] Speaker 1: lot of potatoes.
[6:37] Speaker 3: Did you see, by the way, did you see Connor
[6:39] Speaker 3: Stallions weighing in with Mark Cuban about that?
[6:41] Speaker 1: I did, and I didn't really understand what the subtext was.
[6:44] Speaker 1: I didn't understand why people were making a big deal
[6:46] Speaker 1: of that.
[6:47] Speaker 3: Oh, it was just funny that, you know, Connor Stallions
[6:49] Speaker 3: is around and weighing in and has takes. He was
[6:52] Speaker 3: just talking about how there's sort of finite demand usually
[6:55] Speaker 3: because there are two fan bases who don't live in
[6:58] Speaker 3: the city that's hosting the National Champampionship. But now there
[7:01] Speaker 3: is much more interest locally because of a home team
[7:06] Speaker 3: playing in the National Championship game, So tickets likely won't
[7:09] Speaker 3: drop as dramatically as kickoff near's day of and so
[7:13] Speaker 3: you won't see you know, thirty two hundred now, but
[7:16] Speaker 3: suddenly people are getting in for seven to fifty you know,
[7:19] Speaker 3: five ten minutes before kickoff. So it does to your
[7:22] Speaker 3: point ring true that it's going to be a per ricy,
[7:26] Speaker 3: pricey ticket.
[7:27] Speaker 1: If you were a fan of one of these teams,
[7:30] Speaker 1: and you know that the two of us have confronted
[7:32] Speaker 1: this very issue before in the past, what would be
[7:36] Speaker 1: the maximum amount of US dollars that you would pay
[7:39] Speaker 1: to get in?
[7:40] Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay four figures to go to a sporting event.
[7:44] Speaker 2: I just wouldn't.
[7:45] Speaker 3: Well, I know that I figured as much, but how
[7:47] Speaker 3: much n ninety nine know, you know, how much would
[7:50] Speaker 3: you want to spend? It also would depend on opponent.
[7:54] Speaker 3: It would also depend on place. Do I want to
[7:56] Speaker 3: go to this place? The whole shebang? I think I
[8:00] Speaker 3: think I would I don't know, eight nine hundred bucks
[8:03] Speaker 3: to go to a huge Oregon National Championship especially because
[8:05] Speaker 3: Oregon hasn't won ever, which nobody ever reminds Oregon fans of.
[8:10] Speaker 3: I don't know if you're familiar with that. Nobody's ever
[8:14] Speaker 3: made the joke.
[8:14] Speaker 1: That like one hundred and fifty unifour will amination with
[8:17] Speaker 1: zero title. Nailed it again, Chad.
[8:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if your team has never won a national
[8:22] Speaker 3: championship like Indiana and it is a destination place as
[8:26] Speaker 3: Miami is, especially in winter time, if you're coming from
[8:29] Speaker 3: the Midwest and they're playing against a team that, as
[8:32] Speaker 3: an Indiana fan, you'd love to see them play against
[8:35] Speaker 3: and beat, which I'm sure you know Miami as being
[8:37] Speaker 3: like you know, I guess twenty first century Power is
[8:40] Speaker 3: not a lie. It's just been a minute that this
[8:42] Speaker 3: is an enticing situation. So I understand why people are
[8:47] Speaker 3: going crazy and snapping up tickets because it's just a
[8:50] Speaker 3: situation they've never experienced. But yeah, I'm in that. Yeah,
[8:56] Speaker 3: i'd pay eight nine hundred dollars. But I just I
[8:59] Speaker 3: can't justify that when I don't know, kids need shoes
[9:04] Speaker 3: just like stuff like that. I don't know, kids need groceries.
[9:08] Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you're going to this game, reach out.
[9:10] Speaker 1: Soliverbal at gmail dot com. Let us know what you
[9:13] Speaker 1: pay to get in. No no judgment here. Look if
[9:15] Speaker 1: you have a number, I mean I was close to
[9:18] Speaker 1: paying nine hundred for that right Notre Dame Alademic game,
[9:22] Speaker 1: and it would have been the last row of the stadium.
[9:24] Speaker 1: And I didn't want to do it at the time
[9:26] Speaker 1: because A, I think we both thought they were gonna
[9:28] Speaker 1: get creamed and they did, and then B it was
[9:31] Speaker 1: sort of a bummer going without you, Like I just
[9:33] Speaker 1: I don't know I would have felt of doing that.
[9:36] Speaker 3: So to be clear, I have done that. I know, I.
[9:42] Speaker 1: Know it was I was expecting in that game that
[9:47] Speaker 1: it was going to be something of a shell acking,
[9:50] Speaker 1: and so I at least wanted to have some company
[9:53] Speaker 1: with me if I was going to spend that kind
[9:54] Speaker 1: of cabbage to watch the game. Right, So it wasn't
[9:57] Speaker 1: exactly the same. But uh, if you're going again, no judgment,
[10:01] Speaker 1: So oliverble atgail dot com. We're not going to use
[10:03] Speaker 1: your name or anything, but let us know what you
[10:05] Speaker 1: pay to get in.
[10:06] Speaker 3: I'm just I'm curious that that's sort of central to
[10:08] Speaker 3: one of my like life.
[10:09] Speaker 1: THESS is that a word?
[10:11] Speaker 2: The CS?
[10:12] Speaker 1: It's very close to something else. But go ahead, f CS.
[10:16] Speaker 3: Is that what you're you're allowed to say that your word.
[10:19] Speaker 3: It's not mine, it's not the what, but it's the
[10:21] Speaker 3: with whom? Right that Like, it's great going to a
[10:25] Speaker 3: huge game, but it's even better no matter the outcome,
[10:29] Speaker 3: that you're with somebody you want to be with. And so, uh,
[10:32] Speaker 3: I get it from your perspective, going solo to a
[10:34] Speaker 3: national championship game when your team is playing that sort
[10:37] Speaker 3: of defeats the purpose of the culture of college football
[10:40] Speaker 3: in general.
[10:40] Speaker 2: So yeah, I get it.
[10:41] Speaker 1: I will say that I did put in for World
[10:43] Speaker 1: Cup tickets, and in that case, especially for the US games,
[10:48] Speaker 1: I'm prepared to spend more money on tickets than I
[10:50] Speaker 1: ever have before. Really, yes, I am oh man, But
[10:54] Speaker 1: you'd be going with somebody you like. I'd be going
[10:56] Speaker 1: with friends. And the good news from my pocketbook is
[10:59] Speaker 1: that I'm not going to win because there's like twenty
[11:01] Speaker 1: million applications. But okay, this is a football show, the
[11:04] Speaker 1: other kind of football show, Dan, I have a couple
[11:06] Speaker 1: questions about this game before we dive into our keys
[11:09] Speaker 1: and the case for each team, and so have a
[11:11] Speaker 1: bunch of questions. They want to have them answered immediately.
[11:15] Speaker 1: Question number one, do you think that both teams in
[11:21] Speaker 1: this matchup realistically can win the game? Yes, definitely, I
[11:29] Speaker 1: think I feel the same.
[11:31] Speaker 3: How can you look at these teams and who they've
[11:33] Speaker 3: beaten recently and think otherwise that you think there's no
[11:36] Speaker 3: way Indiana can beat Miami and Miami, or you think
[11:38] Speaker 3: there's no way that Miami can beat Indiana. These are
[11:42] Speaker 3: both excellent teams. This is a national championship game. They're
[11:45] Speaker 3: both prepared, They're both not dealing with distractions, they both
[11:49] Speaker 3: haven't had a catastrophic injury to a quarterback or I mean,
[11:54] Speaker 3: obviously Indiana's lost a big defensive lineman, but you know,
[11:57] Speaker 3: Miami's dealing with, you know, a beat up team, as
[11:59] Speaker 3: everybody is at this point in the season. So yes,
[12:03] Speaker 3: I think that Miami was able to beat Ohio State,
[12:07] Speaker 3: that Indiana was able to beat I guess Ohio State,
[12:10] Speaker 3: Alabama and Oregon and the way that they sort of
[12:14] Speaker 3: went through their schedule. For the most part, the case
[12:17] Speaker 3: for either of these teams is not difficult to make.
[12:20] Speaker 1: It's not difficult. I think it's a little bit of
[12:22] Speaker 1: an arrow or path for Miami, and we can get
[12:24] Speaker 1: into that but I tend to agree to me. Both
[12:26] Speaker 1: teams I think can absolutely win this game. Question number two,
[12:31] Speaker 1: what would be the most shocking outcome for you?
[12:36] Speaker 3: A Miami blowout? Miami winning this game thirty eight thirteen.
[12:41] Speaker 1: I have a Miami blowout as well.
[12:43] Speaker 3: I just look, that's not the way that they've won
[12:46] Speaker 3: a lot of their games. That even when they've gone
[12:48] Speaker 3: up on teams, teams have come back, and even if
[12:51] Speaker 3: those weren't fully competitive four quarter games, Miami distancing themselves
[12:57] Speaker 3: from excellent teams has not necessarily been reality this season.
[13:02] Speaker 3: And look, look, I guess what you think of Pitt
[13:05] Speaker 3: or something like that, but no, Miami in the playoff
[13:08] Speaker 3: has not distanced themselves from teams.
[13:09] Speaker 2: Which is fine, you just want to win.
[13:12] Speaker 3: But that would be the that would essentially, to me,
[13:15] Speaker 3: take an Indiana program and team that has not been
[13:20] Speaker 3: mistake prone, that has been eat off the floor clean,
[13:23] Speaker 3: that has been precise, that has not beaten itself doing
[13:27] Speaker 3: all of the things that they've avoided all season long. Yeah, So,
[13:30] Speaker 3: I mean, it would be so out of character for
[13:33] Speaker 3: Miami to win taking advantage of mistakes and just laying
[13:38] Speaker 3: it on Indiana.
[13:39] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the only way this goes
[13:41] Speaker 1: down is if it's Alberto Mendoza playing quarterback for Indiana.
[13:45] Speaker 1: If something happens to Fernando, you know, no one's reading
[13:48] Speaker 1: for that. But right I just I can't bend my
[13:51] Speaker 1: mind into the pretzel now needed to get to like
[13:55] Speaker 1: thirty eight to three Miami. So I tend to agree.
[13:58] Speaker 1: Here's question three, though, what will be the funniest outcome?
[14:03] Speaker 2: The funniest outcome.
[14:04] Speaker 1: Funniest outcome not shocking, I mean, maybe shocking because it's funny, but.
[14:09] Speaker 2: Funny outcome.
[14:11] Speaker 3: The darkest possible humor outcome of this game would be
[14:16] Speaker 3: Miami going up comfortably and the whole place going crazy.
[14:22] Speaker 1: I have the same thing written down.
[14:23] Speaker 3: They're up twenty eight to seven deep in the third
[14:26] Speaker 3: quarter something like that. Yeah, and maybe it's a special
[14:29] Speaker 3: teams play, maybe it's a tipped pass pick six. And
[14:33] Speaker 3: like I'm saying this as if like Miami going up
[14:36] Speaker 3: comfortably in this game is like crazy and probable. It's
[14:39] Speaker 3: not crazy improbable, it is this is college football. We
[14:42] Speaker 3: have results, and we have years upon years of sample
[14:45] Speaker 3: size to say that favored teams can be comfortably down,
[14:51] Speaker 3: that they are up twenty eight to seven and Indiana
[14:54] Speaker 3: comes back and wins this late and leaves the stadium
[14:57] Speaker 3: completely shell shocked.
[14:58] Speaker 1: And I would say say, as an addendum, not because
[15:03] Speaker 1: of a big special teams play or because of a
[15:07] Speaker 1: pick six or anything like that. I think the funniest
[15:11] Speaker 1: possible outcome, as you said, Miami going up comfortably but
[15:14] Speaker 1: then blowing a lead because they go into like a
[15:16] Speaker 1: super conservative shell, or they mismanage the clock, or some
[15:19] Speaker 1: of the criticism that rightfully has been thrown at Crystal
[15:23] Speaker 1: Ball over the years, some of that stuff kind of
[15:26] Speaker 1: coming back and costing them the National championship game at home.
[15:30] Speaker 1: Funniest from a content standpoint, obviously not from Miami standpoint,
[15:33] Speaker 1: but I think for those of us who don't necessarily
[15:36] Speaker 1: have a dog in the fight, that would make for
[15:38] Speaker 1: the funniest conversation after.
[15:41] Speaker 3: The Honestly, to my one b in terms of the
[15:45] Speaker 3: funniest possible thing is actually the Miami blowout of Indiana,
[15:49] Speaker 3: because up leading up to this game it's nothing.
[15:52] Speaker 1: But where did Kurt Signetti come from?
[15:55] Speaker 3: How does he do it? How does he know who
[15:57] Speaker 3: has the most flexible ankles?
[15:59] Speaker 1: Right? That?
[16:00] Speaker 3: Is this the new model? How did nobody else see
[16:03] Speaker 3: this coming? And then to absolutely get shellacked after all
[16:07] Speaker 3: of that love.
[16:09] Speaker 2: That's kind of funny too.
[16:10] Speaker 3: That you know he is he is being treated like
[16:13] Speaker 3: a god, right that we have all been just like
[16:16] Speaker 3: relegating to Indiana University Pennsylvania and James Madison and this
[16:20] Speaker 3: god has been lurking amongst us, right. He's the Joan
[16:23] Speaker 3: Osborne of this situation, isn't that Joan Osbourne?
[16:27] Speaker 2: One of us?
[16:28] Speaker 1: Who? Yeah?
[16:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah?
[16:29] Speaker 3: So him now playing on the possible coaching a team
[16:34] Speaker 3: on the biggest possible stage with the Heisman winner and
[16:37] Speaker 3: then getting just the the be Jesus beaten out of them,
[16:43] Speaker 3: that'd be kind of funny too.
[16:45] Speaker 1: I don't know around here talking like Signette should take
[16:47] Speaker 1: the Steelers job now that it's so sure?
[16:49] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Why why even coach this game when you
[16:53] Speaker 3: could be preparing your speech for the Football Hall of Fame?
[16:56] Speaker 1: Right? Okay, So that's that.
[16:58] Speaker 3: I mean there's a certain level of that as well.
[17:00] Speaker 3: It's all pain for me, to be clear, as an
[17:03] Speaker 3: Oregon fan. All of this, all of this conversation, this
[17:08] Speaker 3: word cloud that we're building, Tie, it's all pain for me.
[17:12] Speaker 3: So I hope the Indiana fans and Miami fans are
[17:15] Speaker 3: equally giggled and tickled and everything at me having to
[17:19] Speaker 3: experience on one side the coach who decided that Oregon
[17:23] Speaker 3: wasn't for him, and then on the other side a
[17:26] Speaker 3: team who has beaten Oregon down twice in the last
[17:30] Speaker 3: three months.
[17:31] Speaker 1: See, if I'm an Oregon fan, though I'm rooting for Indiana.
[17:34] Speaker 1: You can't root for Crystal Ball because he left you
[17:36] Speaker 1: high and drive. But you can't root for Indiana because
[17:38] Speaker 1: if you're going to lose to anybody. Literally the only
[17:41] Speaker 1: team two losses one team for Oregon this year was
[17:45] Speaker 1: against Indiana. So I know I had an old baseball
[17:49] Speaker 1: coach who would tell me there's only one team happy
[17:51] Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Wouldn't you rather lose
[17:53] Speaker 1: to that team knowing that you went toe to toe
[17:54] Speaker 1: with them twice? Maybe you weren't good enow, but at
[17:57] Speaker 1: least it sort of validates losing to them as not
[18:00] Speaker 1: being uh, you know, losing to a cream puff or
[18:03] Speaker 1: something totally.
[18:04] Speaker 3: And look when you look at like who Danning has
[18:06] Speaker 3: lost to at Oregon these past two three four.
[18:08] Speaker 1: Year are calling him Danning? Now?
[18:10] Speaker 2: Is that Dan? I just I just murmured it.
[18:12] Speaker 1: I just Okay, Dan, Like, I kn't like that anyway.
[18:15] Speaker 3: Uh you know it's Washington who's in the National Championship
[18:19] Speaker 3: twice that season, It's Indiana this year, it's Ohio State
[18:23] Speaker 3: last season, right that, Like Oregon is this world class loser.
[18:26] Speaker 3: They only lose to the best. And that's not great
[18:29] Speaker 3: either as an Oregon fan. Like as as impressive as
[18:32] Speaker 3: it is that you only don't lose dumb games. And
[18:34] Speaker 3: I know, like this is insane that I'm making this
[18:36] Speaker 3: about Oregon when they're not playing in this game. But
[18:38] Speaker 3: I'm just giving you my perspective as a co host
[18:41] Speaker 3: of this show. Uh yeah, I would. I would take
[18:43] Speaker 3: Indiana from a pure Oregon perspective as a co host
[18:47] Speaker 3: of the Soliverble.
[18:47] Speaker 1: I just want to watch great football, all right, I
[18:50] Speaker 1: got a couple more. Okay, what worries you the most
[18:53] Speaker 1: for Indiana?
[18:56] Speaker 3: What worries me the most for Indiana is much more
[19:01] Speaker 3: circumstantial than based in reality of on field play. If
[19:06] Speaker 3: I were worried about Indiana, if I were an Indiana
[19:09] Speaker 3: fan and I was starting to get worried about this game,
[19:12] Speaker 3: it's one A National championship stage is even bigger than
[19:16] Speaker 3: the stage. Is that they've been on in the Rose
[19:18] Speaker 3: Bowl and what the Peach Bowl, and two their wins
[19:22] Speaker 3: in the playoff this year came against teams that are
[19:28] Speaker 3: or were in some degree of turmoil that you know,
[19:33] Speaker 3: Oregon with injuries and coordinators leaving and the offense sort
[19:40] Speaker 3: of sputtering later on in the season for Oregon at times.
[19:43] Speaker 3: You know, the offense wasn't great against Texas Tech, and
[19:48] Speaker 3: it was a team that they had already beaten and
[19:49] Speaker 3: felt confident against. And Alabama's obviously to whatever degree you
[19:54] Speaker 3: feel like they're in turmoil with you know, a bunch
[19:56] Speaker 3: of transfers leaving, the way that they finished their season,
[19:59] Speaker 3: losing to Georgia like handily in the SEC championship game,
[20:03] Speaker 3: not performing well against teams like Auburn and LSU whoever,
[20:06] Speaker 3: and you know the quarterback leaving, which, by the way,
[20:09] Speaker 3: the sidebar here of Ty Simpson leaving for the NFL,
[20:13] Speaker 3: getting like six and six and a half million dollar
[20:15] Speaker 3: offers and saying like, I'm a I'm too proud an
[20:18] Speaker 3: Alabama captain to go anywhere else, like it wasn't that
[20:24] Speaker 3: good for him. I'm enjoy the Jets, my friend, right,
[20:29] Speaker 3: I uh, I would be worried a little bit, worried
[20:32] Speaker 3: that their path has been paved with kind of fractured programs.
[20:38] Speaker 3: At the moment, Okay, beating Oregon is still excellent. I'm
[20:41] Speaker 3: not very good wins, but they're all I take horrific wins,
[20:45] Speaker 3: and they beat them down, right, It's not we're not
[20:47] Speaker 3: taying they beat them twenty eight fourteen. They beat these
[20:50] Speaker 3: teams down. They suffocated them, They were boa constrictors, they
[20:53] Speaker 3: castrated these teams.
[20:55] Speaker 2: Take whatever verb you want.
[20:58] Speaker 3: So that would be all worry that Miami is in
[21:01] Speaker 3: a more stable place, and the game is a home
[21:04] Speaker 3: game for Miami. Okay, And so you're just talking about
[21:07] Speaker 3: the emotion of this game. You're talking about the stability
[21:10] Speaker 3: of opponents, and you're talking about maybe a little bit
[21:13] Speaker 3: of the math coming back to bite Indiana that like
[21:16] Speaker 3: the they never lose fumbles, they never are penalized whatever,
[21:19] Speaker 3: and like just the universe saying like we're going to
[21:23] Speaker 3: even this out a little bit here with a dumb
[21:26] Speaker 3: mistake that you feel like you're immune to, and everybody's
[21:29] Speaker 3: talking up Indiana doesn't make mistakes. Indiana doesn't beat themselves.
[21:33] Speaker 3: And it's like sometimes the universe evens out a little bit,
[21:37] Speaker 3: and it's just football, and the ball bounces the wrong
[21:39] Speaker 3: way on a fumble that would be the more circumstantial,
[21:43] Speaker 3: like college football.
[21:44] Speaker 2: Gods, worry what about you?
[21:46] Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think all of those are really
[21:48] Speaker 1: really good points. For me, It's very simple, and I
[21:51] Speaker 1: promise I will talk more about this. I want to
[21:53] Speaker 1: get through these questions here. For me. If Indiana can't run,
[21:56] Speaker 1: that's a problem. If Indiana can't run against Miami, I
[21:59] Speaker 1: think I think that is an indicator that there are
[22:03] Speaker 1: some other problem areas that could come back to bite
[22:06] Speaker 1: their offense in this game. So I just trotted down
[22:08] Speaker 1: simply if they can't.
[22:10] Speaker 2: Run, Yeah, and I pray run defense this season.
[22:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, I will unpack that more. Let's flip it around.
[22:15] Speaker 1: What worries you the most for Miami? Let me answer first. Yeah,
[22:19] Speaker 1: I'm worried about Miami having to play from behind in
[22:22] Speaker 1: this game. Okay, because I think the template that I
[22:26] Speaker 1: will speak to here in just a little bit is
[22:30] Speaker 1: one where they play bullyball like we've seen them play
[22:33] Speaker 1: in the playoff. It's been very effective for them over
[22:35] Speaker 1: the course of the last few games. But that is
[22:38] Speaker 1: not to say that falling behind by a touchdown or
[22:41] Speaker 1: even ten points is the end of the world. But
[22:44] Speaker 1: if they get down like fourteen to seventeen points, let's
[22:48] Speaker 1: say early in the third quarter, and suddenly they've got
[22:51] Speaker 1: to air it out, they can't lead on that ground attack.
[22:54] Speaker 1: Indiana can do what it does really well, which is
[22:56] Speaker 1: the sky's coverages and find ways to bring pressure against
[22:59] Speaker 1: cars and back. That situation, to me seems like it
[23:03] Speaker 1: would be a really bad deal for Miami. So them
[23:06] Speaker 1: playing from behind again not necessarily a blowout, but playing
[23:10] Speaker 1: two three scores behind, I think is a is a
[23:13] Speaker 1: real problem for the Keynes.
[23:15] Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah.
[23:18] Speaker 3: It's what Indiana does so well is they dictate the
[23:21] Speaker 3: terms of the fight, and so it's also what Miami
[23:25] Speaker 3: does very very well that they dictate that this is
[23:27] Speaker 3: going to be a slog that this is going to
[23:29] Speaker 3: be a rock fight that they're going to get. You know,
[23:31] Speaker 3: when you think that they're just going to keep going
[23:33] Speaker 3: for three and four yards, they figure out something creative
[23:35] Speaker 3: to do with Malachai Toni or something. So, yes, Indiana
[23:40] Speaker 3: succeeding in determining the terms of this, whether it's forcing
[23:45] Speaker 3: Miami to throw a lot more than they'd like and
[23:48] Speaker 3: maybe I think if you're Miami, it's which version of
[23:52] Speaker 3: Miami discipline do we get here? And so the fear
[23:57] Speaker 3: if you're Miami, it's not just that like you're behind
[23:59] Speaker 3: and you have the throw and you have to you know,
[24:01] Speaker 3: run tempo, which they don't do. They're a very like,
[24:03] Speaker 3: not slow, but deliberate team in the way that they
[24:06] Speaker 3: manage their offense. It's playing behind the sticks too often,
[24:12] Speaker 3: right that they get a nice Mark Fletcher five yard
[24:14] Speaker 3: run on first down and then a false start, then
[24:17] Speaker 3: a personal foul or something like that. We saw the
[24:20] Speaker 3: penalties almost compound against Ole Miss late in that game,
[24:25] Speaker 3: and again once again we talked about, you know, the
[24:27] Speaker 3: idea that Miami had a moment where it seemed like
[24:29] Speaker 3: they were unraveling. So if Miami is taking itself out
[24:33] Speaker 3: of position too often and surrendering drives in a game, which,
[24:37] Speaker 3: by the way, both of these teams are quite deliberate
[24:40] Speaker 3: in terms of tempo. So if I'm Miami and I
[24:43] Speaker 3: absolutely waste a seven minute drive at some point, especially
[24:47] Speaker 3: in the first half, that it's seven minutes, you know,
[24:50] Speaker 3: the Canes are churning and they're getting first downs and
[24:53] Speaker 3: then a penalty. Fully takes them out of that drive
[24:55] Speaker 3: and it ends with a miss field goal or a
[24:57] Speaker 3: punt or something like that. Just the math with how
[25:00] Speaker 3: they like to play does not add up because the
[25:02] Speaker 3: drives are going to be limited in this one. So
[25:05] Speaker 3: I'd be terrified if Miami mounts a long drive that
[25:08] Speaker 3: nets them nothing at some point in the first half,
[25:11] Speaker 3: because wasting that much time without points, especially six is
[25:16] Speaker 3: can be quite brutal for how Miami likes to.
[25:19] Speaker 1: Play, which is just wearing teams down over the course
[25:24] Speaker 1: of four quarters. Final two questions. Okay, yeah, what would
[25:30] Speaker 1: it mean if Miami wins this game?
[25:33] Speaker 3: If Miami wins this game, it is one hundred percent
[25:36] Speaker 3: proof of concept of Mario Cristobal's decision and excellence and
[25:41] Speaker 3: vision for this Miami program. You get the really like
[25:47] Speaker 3: heartwarming narrative of his homecoming playing for Miami coming back home.
[25:53] Speaker 3: Winning this game can tell every single little weenie like
[25:57] Speaker 3: myself who doubted this move to shove it and it's
[26:04] Speaker 3: it's nothing but incredible vibes from Miami.
[26:06] Speaker 1: Uh.
[26:07] Speaker 3: Moving forward now with that, now becomes the expectations of Miami,
[26:12] Speaker 3: which have always been get back to previous versions of Miami,
[26:17] Speaker 3: which Mario Christobal has been very, very careful to sort
[26:20] Speaker 3: of turn away from saying like we have no interest
[26:24] Speaker 3: in going back. Our eyes are only on the future,
[26:26] Speaker 3: which I think is a very savvy way to very
[26:28] Speaker 3: Mark maguire, you're talking about that past.
[26:30] Speaker 1: We want to talk about the future.
[26:32] Speaker 3: But like it's an impossible ask to say, like get
[26:35] Speaker 3: the get the you back to where they were at
[26:37] Speaker 3: in the early nineties or early two thousands, because it
[26:39] Speaker 3: just we don't exist in that universe. So Mario Christball
[26:42] Speaker 3: very smartly says like that's it's an impossible ask, and
[26:47] Speaker 3: it's an impossible journey to get to that point once again,
[26:50] Speaker 3: just because it's twenty twenty six, and like you're not
[26:53] Speaker 3: living in reality if you want that. But if the if,
[26:57] Speaker 3: the idea and the expectation from Miami fans is national relevance,
[27:01] Speaker 3: always be competing for national championships, and then you win
[27:03] Speaker 3: a national championship, then Mario Cristobal's seat not doesn't become hotter,
[27:11] Speaker 3: but the throne becomes more diamond studded. And with that,
[27:16] Speaker 3: you're now asking him, Okay, you need to compete for
[27:19] Speaker 3: national championships every season, and you better give us a
[27:21] Speaker 3: good reason why we're not this year if we're not
[27:25] Speaker 3: right that now the expectations are so much hotter for
[27:32] Speaker 3: Miami moving forward, good and bad. And I would add
[27:35] Speaker 3: to that on a more macro level, it's a very
[27:38] Speaker 3: big deal for the ACC. It's a very big deal,
[27:42] Speaker 3: even huge even for the Big Twelve by extension, because
[27:44] Speaker 3: so much of the conversation in the playoff era has
[27:47] Speaker 3: been about what the SEC and the Big Ten want
[27:50] Speaker 3: to do. We're hearing it now, by the way, as
[27:51] Speaker 3: they talk about what the next version of this playoff
[27:54] Speaker 3: is going to look like.
[27:55] Speaker 1: You know, it's all about the SEC and the Big Ten.
[27:58] Speaker 1: Can Tony Patiti and Greg Sanki come to some sort
[28:00] Speaker 1: of a cord and move a sixteen team thing forward?
[28:03] Speaker 1: And I'm already tired of that. But all too often
[28:07] Speaker 1: in this conversation, the ACC and conferences like the Big
[28:10] Speaker 1: Twelve by extension are sort of on the outside looking in.
[28:14] Speaker 1: There wasn't even a guarantee that Miami was going to
[28:15] Speaker 1: get into this field, you know, we had no idea,
[28:18] Speaker 1: and it really came down to the very final version
[28:22] Speaker 1: of the playoff rankings before we found out that that
[28:24] Speaker 1: was in fact the case, and we could talk till
[28:25] Speaker 1: we're blue in the face about the process and how
[28:27] Speaker 1: it's weird and it wasn't clearly communicated and the Tuesday
[28:31] Speaker 1: night shows are ridiculous and like, all of that stuff
[28:33] Speaker 1: is still true, but it doesn't invalidate what Miami did
[28:37] Speaker 1: this season. It doesn't invalidate Miami's case for being there.
[28:39] Speaker 1: They did beat Notre Dame Mai, Notre Dame fighting Irish.
[28:42] Speaker 1: I think they very much had a stake to be
[28:45] Speaker 1: in this thing. I claim to be in this thing
[28:47] Speaker 1: and the fact that they have made it this far
[28:50] Speaker 1: is not only a testament to them, but also, to
[28:53] Speaker 1: some extent maybe the process that got them in. And
[28:55] Speaker 1: I would say on a much bigger level, the ACC
[28:58] Speaker 1: as a whole. Right, if you have any team that
[29:00] Speaker 1: makes it out of your conference ends up winning the
[29:02] Speaker 1: national championship, that bodes well for that conference moving forward.
[29:06] Speaker 1: So this would be a huge feather in the cap
[29:08] Speaker 1: of the ACC if they were able to go on
[29:10] Speaker 1: and win this.
[29:11] Speaker 3: Thing, especially since they didn't beat a Big twelve team.
[29:15] Speaker 3: They didn't beat lowly ranked Cinderella Stories or a G
[29:19] Speaker 3: five team in this playoff, right, they beat a Texas
[29:22] Speaker 3: A and M team, from the SEC who won a
[29:24] Speaker 3: ton of games. Yeah, we ignore who texts A and
[29:26] Speaker 3: M actually beat. But they went to Texas A and
[29:29] Speaker 3: M and won that game a very difficult place to win.
[29:32] Speaker 1: In crazy windy and weather conditions.
[29:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, they went to a team that was number one
[29:37] Speaker 3: in the country for like fourteen weeks this year. They
[29:40] Speaker 3: didn't go to them, but they beat them on a
[29:42] Speaker 3: neutral field in Ohio State and beat them by double digits,
[29:47] Speaker 3: not a small deal for Miami the ACC and then
[29:50] Speaker 3: beat the SEC's Alpha the last man standing Ole Miss
[29:54] Speaker 3: in their semi final matchup. And they've just they've won
[29:59] Speaker 3: games exactly. How you know, if you're to believe a game,
[30:02] Speaker 3: is this like humanized sentient whatever, Like how the game dictated, right,
[30:07] Speaker 3: They took what the game asked of them, whether it
[30:10] Speaker 3: was from Ohio State in absorbing Jeremiah Smith but not
[30:13] Speaker 3: letting them score thirty in the process, getting the stops
[30:17] Speaker 3: when they needed the stops and getting those like crucial
[30:19] Speaker 3: third downs when they needed those crucial third downs. They
[30:22] Speaker 3: won the games. How the games dictated, they win, and
[30:25] Speaker 3: it was more scoring needed against Ole Miss.
[30:28] Speaker 2: They scored.
[30:28] Speaker 3: They made it work, they made it happen. They limited mistakes.
[30:32] Speaker 3: The penalties weren't great against Ole miss Maybe that's something
[30:35] Speaker 3: we can talk about more. But that for the acc
[30:39] Speaker 3: to run through a big ten power in two sec
[30:42] Speaker 3: games on the way to not just appearing in this game,
[30:46] Speaker 3: but winning this game, it's a huge deal.
[30:48] Speaker 1: You a very big deal. Okay, let's flip it around Indiana. Yeah. Weirdly,
[30:53] Speaker 1: to me, we've talked a lot more about what it
[30:56] Speaker 1: would mean if Indiana wins. We've done that already. We've
[30:59] Speaker 1: been having that converse throughout the playoffs. We've been having
[31:01] Speaker 1: that conversation frankly since Indiana made it last year. So
[31:05] Speaker 1: the Miami side of this, albeit there at home, there's
[31:09] Speaker 1: a lot of history with them coming back home. It's
[31:12] Speaker 1: been twenty five year, all this stuff, even though all
[31:14] Speaker 1: of that remains unchanged, I still feel like that aspect
[31:19] Speaker 1: of this has been undercovered as compared to the Indiana story,
[31:23] Speaker 1: which admittedly is crazy. It's great, it's improbable, it's crazy.
[31:29] Speaker 1: It's like a million different adjectives wrapped into one. So
[31:33] Speaker 1: what's it mean if Indiana does go on to win
[31:35] Speaker 1: this thing?
[31:35] Speaker 3: Dan, it's the most improbable national champion of the modern era,
[31:40] Speaker 3: if not ever and Indiana is a product of the times,
[31:45] Speaker 3: which every national champion is, but these are you know,
[31:48] Speaker 3: different times as it relates to the you know whatever
[31:50] Speaker 3: twenty years the modern era before this, it's a more
[31:53] Speaker 3: difficult conference to win for Indiana, but it's easier to
[31:57] Speaker 3: build a competitive roster. Indiana did not build a competitive roster.
[32:01] Speaker 3: Indiana build a roster of killers, and they killed immediately,
[32:06] Speaker 3: and so that's never been done ever in this timetable.
[32:10] Speaker 3: So for Indiana, everything is you know, we've all been
[32:13] Speaker 3: through this conversation a million times, right the losing this
[32:16] Speaker 3: program ever, blah blah blah, they've an afterthought. There are
[32:19] Speaker 3: no football fans there. It's a traditional basketball school. They're
[32:22] Speaker 3: not even the premier school and their state with regard
[32:25] Speaker 3: to football. For them to come not just out of
[32:30] Speaker 3: the shadows, but to come out of the desert of
[32:33] Speaker 3: this sport to do this is as improbable as it gets.
[32:39] Speaker 3: Like we could have had a conversation five years ago,
[32:42] Speaker 3: and if we were to like draft teams, that seem
[32:46] Speaker 3: the most improbable to build a national championship contender. Given
[32:50] Speaker 3: where they are and where they've been and what the
[32:52] Speaker 3: sport is, Indiana has unbelievable wingspan and leaps out of
[32:58] Speaker 3: the gym r They're like an obvious draft pick of
[33:03] Speaker 3: Power Conference teams who were like, I just I can't
[33:06] Speaker 3: even squint and see a path. No, no, and that
[33:09] Speaker 3: they've hired with the money they haven't spent.
[33:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, everything.
[33:12] Speaker 1: It wasn't all that long ago that we were looking
[33:14] Speaker 1: at like a six and six or seven and five
[33:18] Speaker 1: season with yeah, you know, Tom Allen, Kevin Wilson, if
[33:21] Speaker 1: you want to go back to like the mid twenty tens,
[33:25] Speaker 1: and you know, we looked at that as an enormous
[33:28] Speaker 1: success for Indiana football, right you know, that was that
[33:31] Speaker 1: was by far exceeding what expectations were in the preseason.
[33:35] Speaker 1: So nobody had fifteen and zero in the Bingo card, nobody,
[33:39] Speaker 1: and I think we acknowledged at the start of the
[33:42] Speaker 1: year that we thought Indiana would be better, but the
[33:44] Speaker 1: schedule was harder. And you know, I'm not gonna be
[33:48] Speaker 1: too critical of our preseason commentary in Indiana because nobody
[33:52] Speaker 1: had this, even Indiana fans didn't have this. It. This
[33:55] Speaker 1: has certainly been a charm season with the right players
[33:59] Speaker 1: and the right co at the right time, and they
[34:01] Speaker 1: have been as you said, killers, what would this mean
[34:04] Speaker 1: for Indiana? You know, I we tend to talk about
[34:07] Speaker 1: everything in a college football sense here, but I did
[34:11] Speaker 1: a radio hit this past weekend with a friend, Steve
[34:14] Speaker 1: Zaben down in DC. Yeah, and zeb asked the question
[34:19] Speaker 1: exactly this, what would it mean if Indiana wins? And
[34:21] Speaker 1: he went on to say, in my lifetime as a
[34:26] Speaker 1: sports fan does this not rank as one of the
[34:29] Speaker 1: best sports stories ever?
[34:32] Speaker 2: I think so? Does it not rank?
[34:34] Speaker 1: Is it not? At least in that conversation? And it
[34:36] Speaker 1: had never been presented to me in such terms, But
[34:40] Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that since I went on the
[34:42] Speaker 1: radio with him, and I think it tracks. I mean,
[34:46] Speaker 1: it's really up there. And so what does this mean
[34:49] Speaker 1: in a college football since? Give it what Indiana has done,
[34:53] Speaker 1: as you said, the timetable so quickly building it in
[34:56] Speaker 1: this capacity with the new coach and winning it and
[34:58] Speaker 1: going from rags to riches so quickly, like in a
[35:02] Speaker 1: college football sense, that is proof of concept for a
[35:04] Speaker 1: thousand different things, certainly related to the portal and nil
[35:08] Speaker 1: and Kurt Signetti, but just in a broader sports conversation,
[35:12] Speaker 1: we got to consider this at least as one of
[35:15] Speaker 1: the great stories we have seen in our lifetimes, and
[35:17] Speaker 1: I don't know where it ranks. We can have that
[35:19] Speaker 1: conversation maybe in the off season if it comes to it.
[35:21] Speaker 1: But for Kurt Signetti to get Indiana here so quickly,
[35:27] Speaker 1: you couldn't even have bet on this five years, No,
[35:30] Speaker 1: you could. You wouldn't even get odds if you tried
[35:32] Speaker 1: to bet on this, That's how improbable it felt there.
[35:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something about I just I'm thinking about like
[35:39] Speaker 3: the Indiana teams of your and the conversations right there there,
[35:43] Speaker 3: you know that like L E O love everyone Tom
[35:46] Speaker 3: Allen teams, like the majority of the time that we
[35:49] Speaker 3: would talk about Indiana games, you know, hold it against us,
[35:52] Speaker 3: their tone.
[35:53] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[35:53] Speaker 3: It's just like I like this one guy. I like
[35:57] Speaker 3: Tye Fry Fogel, right, what a pull? I was like
[36:01] Speaker 3: four days ago. You know. It was the two names
[36:04] Speaker 3: that I was like, I was like, who are the
[36:06] Speaker 3: guys that we would talk about like they're not good?
[36:08] Speaker 3: This guy's got like kind of fun, this guy's got
[36:11] Speaker 3: some some spirit. The other one was wap Filiar because
[36:14] Speaker 3: you just want to talk. Yeah, I thought, maybe you're
[36:17] Speaker 3: gonna go Cody Latimer.
[36:18] Speaker 1: That was another one.
[36:19] Speaker 3: No mind, No, but like, look, this is Indiana program
[36:22] Speaker 3: where like they had a decent quarterback in Peyton Ramsey,
[36:25] Speaker 3: and as he's finishing out his career at Indiana.
[36:27] Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I want to give myself
[36:29] Speaker 1: one real shot.
[36:30] Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Northwestern, right Yeah, And that's that's
[36:37] Speaker 3: been Indiana. So that sort of reversal, right, it it
[36:40] Speaker 3: sort of cements Kurt Signetti as a modern miracle worker.
[36:45] Speaker 3: It's cements you know, Fernando Mendoza as an absolute college
[36:49] Speaker 3: football legend.
[36:50] Speaker 2: For doing this in a year.
[36:52] Speaker 3: Like even if you want to look at recent extremely
[36:55] Speaker 3: dominant teams like twenty nineteen LSU or whatever, like Joe
[36:58] Speaker 3: Burrow was there two years, He was decent in his
[37:01] Speaker 3: first year and then was a monster there. I guess
[37:03] Speaker 3: you could talk about Joe Brady in that context, however
[37:05] Speaker 3: you want to look at it. Sure, but it's just
[37:09] Speaker 3: the time of this happening. This happened in the Big Ten.
[37:13] Speaker 3: This is Indiana winning games against Ohio State and Michigan
[37:17] Speaker 3: and Oregon and Penn State, like all of these major
[37:20] Speaker 3: major programs that have decades upon decades of goodwill built
[37:24] Speaker 3: on the football field. Over Indiana and Indiana just coming
[37:28] Speaker 3: in and be like that's old news, that's old news.
[37:31] Speaker 1: Who cares. I remember watching a game and I don't
[37:34] Speaker 1: even remember what it was. It might have been like
[37:37] Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, something like that. I remember Andre
[37:42] Speaker 1: Ware was on the call for ESPN, and every other
[37:46] Speaker 1: word out of his mouth was about James Hardy Theers,
[37:50] Speaker 1: a big wide receiver they used to have who was
[37:52] Speaker 1: very good there. But you're right, it's all too often
[37:56] Speaker 1: been a conversation about a player or two who's interesting
[38:00] Speaker 1: on Indiana, not the team. I think we got to
[38:03] Speaker 1: talk about the case for each team, Dan, and we'll
[38:07] Speaker 1: flip it over to the Miami side of the coin here,
[38:09] Speaker 1: because I think there's more to talk about with respect
[38:12] Speaker 1: to Miami. Build the case for Miami to win this game.
[38:15] Speaker 1: What are the keys for them to win this game?
[38:18] Speaker 2: How do you see it?
[38:19] Speaker 1: If Miami ends up winning this how do they do it?
[38:23] Speaker 3: They dictate the terms right, It's the line play on offense,
[38:28] Speaker 3: generating a bunch of third and threes and converting backbreaking
[38:32] Speaker 3: third downs like we saw against I think CJ. Daniels
[38:34] Speaker 3: has been sort of the master of that recently, you know,
[38:37] Speaker 3: catching those tight passes in traffic on third and six
[38:39] Speaker 3: for seven and a half yards knowing where the sticks are.
[38:42] Speaker 3: That's a big deal on offense. I think riding the
[38:46] Speaker 3: balance really nicely, not abandoning Mark Fletcher like they sort
[38:50] Speaker 3: of did against Texas A and M and the wind
[38:52] Speaker 3: until going back to Mark Fletcher. I think that was
[38:54] Speaker 3: a big deal when they sort of went with what
[38:57] Speaker 3: was working. So yeah, Miami under thinking this and going
[39:02] Speaker 3: with what's working would be a great, great.
[39:04] Speaker 2: Leg up in this game.
[39:07] Speaker 1: Let me add something to that please. I jotted down
[39:11] Speaker 1: play big dumb Mario ball. Okay, Miami is bigger than
[39:16] Speaker 1: Indiana on the lines, and we have seen Miami use
[39:21] Speaker 1: this to great effect with how they've run the ball
[39:23] Speaker 1: through the playoffs and they dominated with their defensive line. Obviously,
[39:27] Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about that. Yep, zoom out a
[39:30] Speaker 1: little bit more, and I think what we have seen
[39:36] Speaker 1: with the big dumb Mario ball is one of the
[39:39] Speaker 1: big reasons why Miami has been able to turn two
[39:43] Speaker 1: of their three playoff games into slug fests. I think
[39:47] Speaker 1: it is essential that they play a slug fest, play
[39:50] Speaker 1: bully ball against Indiana f they want to win this game.
[39:54] Speaker 1: You do not want Indiana playing with momentum. That to
[39:58] Speaker 1: me feels like when they're most dang and when they
[40:00] Speaker 1: take your soul.
[40:01] Speaker 3: Oh, you don't think gifting pick sixes and uh punt.
[40:04] Speaker 3: I don't about it. I don't think it's good. Is
[40:08] Speaker 3: that not the move against Indiana? I just not told
[40:11] Speaker 3: that to Dan Lanning a couple of weeks ago.
[40:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, send it to Danny. I'm gonna call him that now.
[40:16] Speaker 2: I like Danning.
[40:17] Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. If I'm Miami, I want to beat him up.
[40:19] Speaker 1: I want to beat up Indiana. Nobody's really been able
[40:22] Speaker 1: to stop Fernana Mendoza, So let's just do our best
[40:24] Speaker 1: to keep him off the field, right, play the big
[40:27] Speaker 1: dumb merriiaball right, play the volleyball, eat the clock, try
[40:32] Speaker 1: to keep.
[40:32] Speaker 3: Fernando off the field as best you can. To our
[40:34] Speaker 3: earlier conversation, though, you can't come away with zero on
[40:37] Speaker 3: a seven minute trive.
[40:38] Speaker 1: No no no, no no no. Right.
[40:40] Speaker 3: So that's that's the worry that when you play slow,
[40:42] Speaker 3: when you play deliberate, when you convert every third and
[40:44] Speaker 3: three and then suddenly you're on the Indiana thirty seven
[40:48] Speaker 3: and it's third and nine.
[40:49] Speaker 1: Absolutely don't convert. You're like, that's the killer.
[40:52] Speaker 3: That's that's why it's such a high wire act to
[40:55] Speaker 3: play this way, because if you fall behind once, it
[40:58] Speaker 3: kills you.
[40:59] Speaker 1: Couldn't a Green Moore. Couldn't a Green Moore? What else
[41:01] Speaker 1: you got?
[41:03] Speaker 3: I got a bunch on Miami. I mean again, the
[41:05] Speaker 3: case from Miami is not that complicated. The beat Ohio
[41:07] Speaker 3: State by more than Indiana did recently and pulled out
[41:10] Speaker 3: a losable game there. They beat the SEC's Alpha again
[41:13] Speaker 3: Ole miss in a losible game. They want a rock
[41:16] Speaker 3: fight against Texas A and m in a losible game.
[41:18] Speaker 3: To me, this looks like a losible game. When you're
[41:20] Speaker 3: a dog by what seven and a half, eight and
[41:22] Speaker 3: a half points in this moment, it's a losible moment
[41:24] Speaker 3: for Miami. Miami is not going to play out of itself, right.
[41:30] Speaker 3: They're not going to be an air ra team all
[41:31] Speaker 3: of a sudden. They're not going to alter their identity
[41:34] Speaker 3: because it's going to be unexpected and we'll catch them
[41:36] Speaker 3: by surprise.
[41:37] Speaker 2: Miami's just not going to be that team.
[41:38] Speaker 1: There is a little bit of too Q to clock
[41:41] Speaker 1: though in Shannon Dawson. I mean, we've seen that with
[41:44] Speaker 1: the times with the Malacat thing that they do, the
[41:46] Speaker 1: Wildcat featuring Malachai Tony. And we've seen a couple of
[41:49] Speaker 1: trick plays like the flea flicker that I think we
[41:53] Speaker 1: saw the last game, Like I mean, I could we've
[41:55] Speaker 1: seen some of these weird play calls from them at times.
[42:00] Speaker 1: But beyond that, You're right, they're not really playing outside
[42:03] Speaker 1: what they're good at. There very much. I can tell
[42:05] Speaker 1: you this.
[42:05] Speaker 3: I can tell you this, and Malchai Toni can throw.
[42:10] Speaker 3: But there has never been a time where I've watched
[42:13] Speaker 3: a team line up for a direct snap to a
[42:15] Speaker 3: running back or receiver and felt, ooh, the defense is
[42:19] Speaker 3: in trouble. Now, the defense is in real trouble.
[42:22] Speaker 1: Now. It works better in the video game than it
[42:24] Speaker 1: does in real life. I'll tell you that. Yeah.
[42:26] Speaker 3: And if there's one team that's likelier to run a
[42:29] Speaker 3: direct snap and a crucial time, it's Miami. Yes, but
[42:31] Speaker 3: you asked me what's the case for Miami? So I'm
[42:33] Speaker 3: going to continue.
[42:34] Speaker 1: Please.
[42:35] Speaker 3: The ceiling of their collective line talent seems very high,
[42:38] Speaker 3: and in a spot like this that seems important. Carson
[42:41] Speaker 3: Beck has experience. This is not his first BRIG game,
[42:44] Speaker 3: this is not his first time against an excellent defense
[42:47] Speaker 3: like this moment is not too big for his experience
[42:50] Speaker 3: and story thus far.
[42:52] Speaker 2: How about you were talking.
[42:53] Speaker 3: About the connective tissue by the way of Fernao Mendoza
[42:56] Speaker 3: and the city of Miami and his dad and Cristball
[42:58] Speaker 3: and everything like that.
[42:59] Speaker 2: Corey Heatherman is from the Kurt Signetti tree.
[43:02] Speaker 1: Yep, that's right.
[43:03] Speaker 3: He was a James Madison defensive coordinator. I'm not saying
[43:06] Speaker 3: that's a huge difference in this game. Corey Heatherman's was
[43:09] Speaker 3: like Broyle's quality assistant this year. He's a very very
[43:12] Speaker 3: good defensive coach, and so maybe, just maybe he remembers
[43:17] Speaker 3: a couple of like the rhythms, the in game rhythms
[43:19] Speaker 3: of Kurt Signetti. I'm not saying he's diagnosing everything well,
[43:23] Speaker 3: but he's familiarity there.
[43:25] Speaker 1: I do think one of the keys for Miami is
[43:30] Speaker 1: can Heatherman dial up away to stop the run without
[43:33] Speaker 1: over committing. Sure, let me give credit to Robbie Kallen
[43:37] Speaker 1: over at CBS now who put this nugget out there
[43:43] Speaker 1: a few days ago. When Indiana averages four or more
[43:47] Speaker 1: yards per carry, the Hoosiers average margin of victory is
[43:51] Speaker 1: forty two point eight points per game. That's ten games
[43:54] Speaker 1: so far this year. When they average less than four
[43:57] Speaker 1: yards per carry, their average margin of victory is nine points,
[44:01] Speaker 1: and that happened in five games. Now Indiana won all
[44:03] Speaker 1: those games, but it does speak a little bit. I
[44:05] Speaker 1: think to the formula on defense. Indiana runs a bunch
[44:08] Speaker 1: of RPOs that are dependent on Fernanda mendoz that will
[44:12] Speaker 1: process what's going on. But the run game, the run
[44:15] Speaker 1: game on the Indiana side, despite the fact that Fernanda
[44:18] Speaker 1: Mendozi won the Heisman and as the talk of the
[44:20] Speaker 1: town is probably be the first overall pick and all
[44:22] Speaker 1: that right, the Indiana run game is an underrated aspect
[44:27] Speaker 1: of this offense, and I think they need it in
[44:29] Speaker 1: order for the whole thing to work. Sure, Miami needs
[44:32] Speaker 1: to stop it. I think if they can stop it,
[44:34] Speaker 1: if they can sort of make Indiana a little bit
[44:37] Speaker 1: more one dimensional than they're used to, that could have
[44:39] Speaker 1: some positive ramifications for them, to say the least. But
[44:43] Speaker 1: they cannot do so by over committing, because if they
[44:46] Speaker 1: over commit, that's when Elijah Surat beats you one on one.
[44:49] Speaker 1: That's when guys like Charlie Becker beat you over the top,
[44:52] Speaker 1: and they don't drop passes that'll drop. Nobody ever drops
[44:55] Speaker 1: a pass on this team. No, So you gotta find
[44:59] Speaker 1: a way to stop that run without the over committing thing.
[45:01] Speaker 1: Otherwise that's when Banana Mendoza diagnoses very quickly the saft
[45:06] Speaker 1: spot of the defense and he kills you. I don't
[45:08] Speaker 1: know if Miami can do this, but I think if
[45:10] Speaker 1: anybody can do this, it's Miami with the beef that
[45:12] Speaker 1: they have up front. So whether that's a Heatherman thing
[45:15] Speaker 1: and knowing any kind of tendency on the signette side,
[45:18] Speaker 1: whether it's just a Jimmy's and Joe's thing, where Miami
[45:21] Speaker 1: feels like they've got the talent up front and in
[45:23] Speaker 1: the front seven to break down the run without you know,
[45:25] Speaker 1: stretching themselves too thin. I don't know if this is doable,
[45:28] Speaker 1: but I've got that jotted down as a key because
[45:31] Speaker 1: I think if they can stop the run, more to
[45:32] Speaker 1: my earlier point, if Indiana can't run, if it makes
[45:35] Speaker 1: them a little bit more one dimensional, I think we've
[45:37] Speaker 1: got a different type of game on our hands than
[45:39] Speaker 1: we've seen thus far in the playoffs.
[45:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Indiana has excuse me. Miami has the ability
[45:45] Speaker 3: to make a quarterback, any quarterback, supremely uncomfortable. And we've
[45:51] Speaker 3: seen mistakes from Fernando Mendoza. Not often, but if he
[45:54] Speaker 3: doesn't see a clear path to a skate pressure, he
[45:58] Speaker 3: has thrown and made mistakes. He you know, fumbled against
[46:02] Speaker 3: Oregon early on. That seemed like it may have changed
[46:05] Speaker 3: the rhythm of that game. It very much did not,
[46:07] Speaker 3: but it was a big moment where he fumbles against
[46:10] Speaker 3: the ball back on a big third down. It takes
[46:11] Speaker 3: them out of a drive. I threw a pick six
[46:13] Speaker 3: against Oregon that first time on the road.
[46:15] Speaker 1: This is very much a.
[46:16] Speaker 3: Road spot for Indiana against Miami. By the way sidebar there,
[46:20] Speaker 3: the ticket allotment is not the same, no, for like,
[46:23] Speaker 3: this is not a Miami home game. Obviously, there's you know,
[46:26] Speaker 3: ticket a lotman for season ticket holders for each of
[46:28] Speaker 3: these teams and fans of each of these teams, and
[46:31] Speaker 3: a lot of it's like corporate interests. This is the
[46:33] Speaker 3: college Football Playoff controlling the tickets in this game. So
[46:36] Speaker 3: maybe in Miami fans buy up everything that's available, and
[46:40] Speaker 3: that's certainly you know possible, But there's eight hundred thousand
[46:43] Speaker 3: or whatever living Indiana alumni, right, So I think it's
[46:47] Speaker 3: the biggest alumni base in America. So that's something. But
[46:51] Speaker 3: it's still like Miami has the ability to throw Fernando
[46:56] Speaker 3: Mendoz's brain into chaos if he's scrambling without like an
[47:00] Speaker 3: exit plan. So that's something there that I think you
[47:04] Speaker 3: have to consider it to be a really nice thing
[47:06] Speaker 3: for for Miami.
[47:08] Speaker 2: I have down here.
[47:09] Speaker 3: This year's Miami team is exclusively lost to inferior teams
[47:13] Speaker 3: and played to the moment. They didn't lose any of
[47:16] Speaker 3: their big games. SMU is not a big game. SMU
[47:19] Speaker 3: is a decent team, but that was not a huge
[47:21] Speaker 3: moment for Miami. They just blew the moment, and same
[47:26] Speaker 3: goes for Louisville. So that was those were not huge
[47:29] Speaker 3: games for Miami emotionally or just within the rhythm of
[47:32] Speaker 3: the season. I have the you know, they're playing at
[47:35] Speaker 3: de facto home game with no pressure because they're underdogs, right,
[47:38] Speaker 3: you'd like to be playing from Miami's spot emotionally here
[47:41] Speaker 3: than Indiana. Yes, I think there's a certain amount of
[47:45] Speaker 3: pressure because they're playing in this game at home, but
[47:48] Speaker 3: they're not being looked at as like, well, this is
[47:52] Speaker 3: all just a formality for Miami. Now they're playing at
[47:54] Speaker 3: home and they're favored. I kind of think playing I
[47:57] Speaker 3: think it's more of a formality for Indiana. I think
[48:00] Speaker 3: playing at home ratchets up the pressure from where could
[48:03] Speaker 3: have been.
[48:04] Speaker 1: Yes, the pressure that has been on this program for
[48:06] Speaker 1: the last twenty five years to get back to where
[48:08] Speaker 1: they once were has been suffocating, and to the point
[48:13] Speaker 1: that you made earlier, Crystal Ball has stayed away from
[48:15] Speaker 1: it artfully. So Yeah, they don't want to draw too
[48:18] Speaker 1: close a comparison to any of those old teams because
[48:20] Speaker 1: they know that there's a trap there to constantly be
[48:24] Speaker 1: compared to the past. I kind of think there's more
[48:26] Speaker 1: pressure on Miami, even though they're a dog. But the
[48:30] Speaker 1: fact that they got this one at home, the fact
[48:32] Speaker 1: that they snuck in, the fact like there they've got
[48:36] Speaker 1: this roster, many of whom will be drafted in the
[48:39] Speaker 1: pros either now or later. There's just so much working
[48:44] Speaker 1: for them. It feels like the window is open and
[48:46] Speaker 1: that this is the time to really bring this whole
[48:48] Speaker 1: thing full circle and win again. Indiana's playing with house money.
[48:52] Speaker 1: Nobody thought Indiana would be here. That's true, So for me,
[48:55] Speaker 1: I kind of come at it this from the other
[48:58] Speaker 1: side of it. Two other things that I'll bring up here, Okay.
[49:02] Speaker 2: Please, I have a couple more as well from Miami,
[49:04] Speaker 2: But continue while we're.
[49:05] Speaker 1: Talking about the case from Miami. You mentioned Carson Beck,
[49:08] Speaker 1: but I want to go back to that for a second.
[49:11] Speaker 1: Carson Beck's forty two career starts. Yeah, forty two career starts.
[49:17] Speaker 1: This will be a supreme test of how he handles
[49:20] Speaker 1: a moment like this. We've seen him on big stages before.
[49:22] Speaker 1: He's not a stranger to this. But I think for me,
[49:28] Speaker 1: this is the chess match here because Indiana and their
[49:32] Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Bryant Haynes have been lauded for showing one
[49:37] Speaker 1: thing pre snap and then doing another after the snap. Right.
[49:42] Speaker 1: The Indiana defense I think deserves a ton of credit
[49:45] Speaker 1: for being able to pull this off because it speaks
[49:47] Speaker 1: to the culture that they've built around communication and discipline
[49:51] Speaker 1: and just putting new guys into a system and having
[49:54] Speaker 1: everybody understand it right away. This is not a simple
[49:58] Speaker 1: defense to understand. It's pretty and what they do, even
[50:01] Speaker 1: if it doesn't look like that pre snap all the time.
[50:04] Speaker 1: Carson Beck cannot allow himself to be baited by that,
[50:09] Speaker 1: because there will be moments in this game when they
[50:11] Speaker 1: can't run and they can't throw the quick screen or
[50:14] Speaker 1: the RPO, and his decision making in those moments is
[50:19] Speaker 1: almost certainly something that we're gonna have to talk about
[50:21] Speaker 1: on Monday night on the recap. So while I think
[50:25] Speaker 1: there is a tug of war that I'll speak to
[50:28] Speaker 1: a little bit later on in this episode, for me,
[50:31] Speaker 1: the chess match is Carson Beck diagnosing this defense and
[50:36] Speaker 1: moving the ball down the field, not doing anything stupid.
[50:38] Speaker 1: We haven't seen him do anything stupid thus far in
[50:41] Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's been really good. Even if the stats
[50:44] Speaker 1: aren't great, He's been really good. That needs to continue
[50:47] Speaker 1: for one more game, and I think this will be
[50:49] Speaker 1: the toughest test of that. And to the point then
[50:52] Speaker 1: Miami just can't beat themselves. Can't beat yourself. It's pretty
[50:56] Speaker 1: well established at this point that Miami was a heavily
[50:59] Speaker 1: penalized team. They averaged seven penalties per game, one hundred
[51:02] Speaker 1: and fourth in the nation. The offensive line in particular
[51:06] Speaker 1: one of the most penalized in the country. Yep, and
[51:09] Speaker 1: I spoke about this before. You may recall how it
[51:15] Speaker 1: was driving the fine folks over at State of the
[51:18] Speaker 1: U crazy, because, like we read that site all the
[51:21] Speaker 1: time to get the inside track on what's going on
[51:23] Speaker 1: with Miami football. They're going nuts about it. After the
[51:26] Speaker 1: Louisville lost. I remember reading it. So this is something
[51:30] Speaker 1: that we have certainly been paying attention to throughout the
[51:32] Speaker 1: course of the season for Miami, and they can't do
[51:34] Speaker 1: it again. Indiana is just very good at what they do,
[51:37] Speaker 1: and part of that is waiting for you to make
[51:39] Speaker 1: a mistake. And I know I've said this before, I'll
[51:42] Speaker 1: say it again. Indiana is Scotti Scheffler. That's who they are.
[51:47] Speaker 1: They're not the longest driver, they're not the best putter,
[51:49] Speaker 1: but they're great with their irons and they never make
[51:52] Speaker 1: bogie right. And so it's hard enough to beat any team,
[51:55] Speaker 1: but it's really tough to beat a team that sort
[51:58] Speaker 1: of waits around for you to screw up. See can't
[52:01] Speaker 1: screw up. And whether that's Carson sand it's quickly, whether
[52:04] Speaker 1: it's Carson Beck going up against the defense that shows
[52:07] Speaker 1: a lot and then does something else, whether it's putting
[52:09] Speaker 1: the ball on the ground. We saw mal chay TONI
[52:11] Speaker 1: do that a little bit whatever it is penalties. You
[52:15] Speaker 1: cannot beat yourself against a team like Indiana, otherwise going
[52:18] Speaker 1: to come back to bite. Yet. So for me, the
[52:20] Speaker 1: four keys that I jotted down a don't beat yourself
[52:23] Speaker 1: be the Carson Beck chess match, see stopping the run
[52:26] Speaker 1: without over committing, and then going back to what I
[52:29] Speaker 1: said at the very top, play big dumb Mario crystal
[52:32] Speaker 1: ball football. Those are my four keys from Miami.
[52:35] Speaker 2: I think they're down their tight end right.
[52:36] Speaker 3: Elijah Lofton got hurt, which I mean not the biggest
[52:40] Speaker 3: pass catcher, but has made some big catches for Miami
[52:42] Speaker 3: this year. The other thing on the Carson back point
[52:45] Speaker 3: is yes, there is a lot of blame with the
[52:48] Speaker 3: passing game and mistakes in their losses to SMU and Louisville.
[52:53] Speaker 3: He's been really clean in terms of turnovers since that
[52:56] Speaker 3: SMU game. He had tipped pass in the red zone
[52:59] Speaker 3: against the Old Man, which yes, is partially on him.
[53:01] Speaker 3: He threw into a hand, which is not advisable in
[53:06] Speaker 3: my opinion. They also committed i want to say, zero
[53:09] Speaker 3: penalties against Ohio State as well. So Miami has it
[53:13] Speaker 3: in them to play extremely clean. We'll see, and you know,
[53:16] Speaker 3: Obviously it's dependent on how the referees are feeling, and
[53:19] Speaker 3: you know what the rhythm of the game is. But
[53:21] Speaker 3: they have it in them to play very clean, both
[53:24] Speaker 3: from a passing perspective and a penalty perspective. So agree,
[53:26] Speaker 3: I think I think those are all right. I have
[53:29] Speaker 3: down here also as well. The best of Miami is
[53:33] Speaker 3: essentially asked kicking to wear teams down. And this is
[53:36] Speaker 3: game sixteen for Indiana. At some point, he says, they
[53:42] Speaker 3: can't keep getting away with this. At some point, a
[53:44] Speaker 3: linebacker has to get tired mentally or physically. At some point,
[53:47] Speaker 3: a corner has to. At some point, a left tackle
[53:49] Speaker 3: has to. And Miami is the type of team if
[53:53] Speaker 3: they identify somebody who is weary, somebody who appears to
[53:57] Speaker 3: be sluggish mentally or physically, that they can pound that
[54:00] Speaker 3: dude into the ground phrasing. So there is that that
[54:06] Speaker 3: Miami is one of the last teams, if not the
[54:09] Speaker 3: last team, you want to face if you are not
[54:11] Speaker 3: feeling like your full self after fifteen games. No, that's
[54:17] Speaker 3: my case for Miami. There's a lot of players that
[54:18] Speaker 3: are gonna be difference makers that they've won in different ways.
[54:22] Speaker 3: They were able to survive, like the both starting corners
[54:25] Speaker 3: out for the second half of that game, and Oj
[54:26] Speaker 3: Frederick and Xavier Lucas, who will not be playing in
[54:29] Speaker 3: the first half of this game after the targeting call
[54:32] Speaker 3: against Ole miss right that they're able to weather these things.
[54:35] Speaker 3: They're able to count on youth. You know that, there's
[54:37] Speaker 3: just different things they've turned to to sort of enhance
[54:41] Speaker 3: their ability to win.
[54:44] Speaker 1: My case for Indiana revolves around three keys in particular. Okay,
[54:52] Speaker 1: the very first one is they need to protect Fernando Mendozo. Yep,
[54:58] Speaker 1: not a great mystery, not a great secret. Gotta protect him.
[55:02] Speaker 1: Mendoza has been the highest graded quarterback of this year
[55:05] Speaker 1: under pressure, and on top of that, he is extremely
[55:09] Speaker 1: difficult to confuse. That doesn't mean Miami shouldn't try Dan, right, Yeah.
[55:15] Speaker 1: I feel like we get down the rabbit hole of
[55:17] Speaker 1: these conversations all too often and it's like, well, you
[55:19] Speaker 1: can't confuse them, so now what are they gonna do? Well,
[55:22] Speaker 1: they're gonna try. Corey Heathman's gonna try because he has
[55:25] Speaker 1: elite edge rushers that are gonna test that Indiana line.
[55:29] Speaker 1: I've also discussed how Indiana's line is equally as difficult
[55:33] Speaker 1: to confuse, but again that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
[55:37] Speaker 1: And I think Corey Heatherman is going to dial up
[55:39] Speaker 1: some exotic blitzes, some complex pressure schemes to try and
[55:44] Speaker 1: figure out a way to get to Mendoza. Part of
[55:47] Speaker 1: it will be the stunts and the twist that we
[55:48] Speaker 1: have seen from them all year, But I think the
[55:51] Speaker 1: other part of it is just proving that Indiana can
[55:53] Speaker 1: block them one on one, because they gotta like the
[55:56] Speaker 1: Jimmies and Joe's again that they have up front. Definitely,
[56:00] Speaker 1: So let's see what Indiana could do against Reuben Bain Junior.
[56:03] Speaker 1: Let's see what they can do against a key Mesador.
[56:05] Speaker 1: Let's put those guys in different positions. We've seen them
[56:08] Speaker 1: do that throughout the course of the season. In this playoff.
[56:11] Speaker 1: Move those guys around, put them next to each other,
[56:14] Speaker 1: have them loop around. Let's see what these guys can
[56:17] Speaker 1: do trying to block Miami. And I'm speaking about the
[56:21] Speaker 1: Indiana line. They got to give them time. This, to me,
[56:26] Speaker 1: I think is the big tug of war in this game.
[56:29] Speaker 1: Indiana's line has passed every test so far this season.
[56:33] Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that they can't handle Miami
[56:35] Speaker 1: over the course of sixty minutes. But it would also
[56:38] Speaker 1: be malpracticed to assume that it's no big deal that
[56:42] Speaker 1: ah asually just handwave it. They've handled everybody, they can
[56:44] Speaker 1: handle Miami. This will be a real challenge for them,
[56:48] Speaker 1: and so I think there are some things that Indiana
[56:51] Speaker 1: can learn from how Old miss handled the Miami front.
[56:56] Speaker 1: The pass rush was way less of a factor in
[56:59] Speaker 1: that game than I think we expected. But I think
[57:02] Speaker 1: it goes without saying I hope it goes without saying that.
[57:06] Speaker 1: Even though the line has been good and Fernando Mendoz
[57:08] Speaker 1: has been great against pressure, this is still a different
[57:11] Speaker 1: kind of puzzle to solve for that Indiana front. And
[57:15] Speaker 1: they got to protect Fernando. They got to protect protect him.
[57:19] Speaker 1: They got to get enough of a push up front
[57:21] Speaker 1: to establish something of a ground game, so they have
[57:23] Speaker 1: the necessary balance here against this defense. Point Number one
[57:26] Speaker 1: for me, Okay, keep going. Point number two third downs.
[57:36] Speaker 1: Over the last two games, Miami's been about fifty five
[57:40] Speaker 1: percent or so on third downs, a little bit under
[57:43] Speaker 1: that last game, they were what eleven of nineteen. Yeah,
[57:47] Speaker 1: it's great, it's a great number. I think Miami is
[57:50] Speaker 1: going to play slow and methodical, and as I mentioned earlier,
[57:55] Speaker 1: big dumb Mario ball and I know it's Mario, but
[58:00] Speaker 1: the Woods we call it Mario. Yeah.
[58:01] Speaker 3: Tyl live's in a very specific sliver of America that
[58:04] Speaker 3: pronounces everything just slightly off.
[58:06] Speaker 1: And says HOGI water and in some cases water yeah.
[58:12] Speaker 1: Do you know people who say use I do yeah yousse?
[58:16] Speaker 1: To be clear, yeah, are you related to any of
[58:19] Speaker 1: these people? I am not, thankfully.
[58:20] Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
[58:22] Speaker 1: I think the only way Miami can play that style
[58:26] Speaker 1: of football is if they're converting on third downs. So
[58:30] Speaker 1: on the Indiana side third down defense, it's not just
[58:34] Speaker 1: on third down, it also extends to first and second
[58:37] Speaker 1: down as well. Can you stop Miami from getting into
[58:40] Speaker 1: third and manageable? Can you create more third and eights
[58:43] Speaker 1: that type of thing. Miami, to their credit, has been
[58:46] Speaker 1: averaging one hundred and seventy three yards on the ground
[58:49] Speaker 1: thus far through the playoffs. They have leaned on their
[58:52] Speaker 1: offensive line to get that push. It is a matchup
[58:56] Speaker 1: again to watch in the trenches. We can talk about
[58:59] Speaker 1: the Indiana line and how it's going to handle the
[59:02] Speaker 1: Miami front. I'm most curious, I think how this matchup
[59:07] Speaker 1: goes down, and that is can the Indiana defensive line
[59:13] Speaker 1: make enough hay against that Miami front to get these
[59:17] Speaker 1: into third and longer situations? So it's not just a
[59:20] Speaker 1: gimme for Miami stop them on third downs and the
[59:24] Speaker 1: big dumb Mario crystal ball football point two right, and
[59:30] Speaker 1: my third point is very specific to something we have
[59:33] Speaker 1: seen Miami do over the last couple games. And I
[59:37] Speaker 1: think this is going out to the Indiana defense, but
[59:40] Speaker 1: it's a world dan where all the rational people are
[59:43] Speaker 1: trying to get away from their screens, trying to watch
[59:46] Speaker 1: less of their screens. I think the Miami offense has
[59:50] Speaker 1: proven to us that the Indiana defense needs to watch
[59:55] Speaker 1: all of the screens because Miami wants to get the
[59:59] Speaker 1: ball to guys life like malachay TONI in space, and
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: we have seen them have great success doing it this
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: year with screens with quick RPOs, stuff like that. He's shifty,
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: he'll make you pay. He made all misspay. So if
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: you're not fundamentally sound, if you can't tackle him in
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: open space, that's a problem. If he's able to make
[1:00:18] Speaker 1: Indiana miss, that affects the whole third down defense thing too, right,
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: It has further reaching ramifications than just one thing. So
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: if Miami is getting him the ball in space, if
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: he's making people miss, if they're getting chunk plays, that
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: is a problem. That is a real issue that Indiana
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: needs to do something about. They're a zone heavy team, Indiana,
[1:00:42] Speaker 1: Miami's going to try to overload one side of the zone.
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: They're going to play a numbers game. They're going to
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: try and get guys the ball in space. My hunch
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: is that if you're Shannon Dawson, you like Malachay Tony's
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: chances of making a guy miss, Indiana cannot let that happen,
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: maybe once or twice, but consistently. You got to be
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: able to get this guy on the ground. Otherwise that
[1:01:02] Speaker 1: screen game is something they're going to use to pick
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: them to death.
[1:01:06] Speaker 2: Yep.
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: So for me, the three keys to victory, protect Fernando,
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: third down, defense, watch the screen, I eat al Kai
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: Toni on the screen.
[1:01:19] Speaker 3: By the way, when an instructive game, I think just
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: in terms of like what can get to Indiana is less.
[1:01:25] Speaker 3: The Oregon game that was on the road, and just
[1:01:28] Speaker 3: earlier on in the season, the Penn State game was interesting.
[1:01:31] Speaker 3: It was Penn State was really good on third down
[1:01:34] Speaker 3: all things considered, they were ran a backup quarterback and
[1:01:36] Speaker 3: interim everything like that, and couldn't really run.
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: They couldn't run. But what's really interesting about that if
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: you look at how Indiana played against Penn State, and
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a respect thing. I
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: don't know, if it's like an Ethan grunka Meyer thing.
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: I really don't know what they were thinking defensively, But
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: compared to all the other games that we have seen
[1:01:57] Speaker 1: from the Indiana defense this year, they barely blitz than
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: that one. Right, they dialed up almost no pressure. The
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: number that comes to mind is twenty percent of the time,
[1:02:06] Speaker 1: and that number has been considerably higher against nearly every
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: other opponent. So I don't know if it was the
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: situational side of the game that caused them to take
[1:02:15] Speaker 1: a little bit of a left turn, But it does
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: seem as if, for whatever reason, they broke tendency in
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: that game in State College and they damn your lost
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: if not for an incredible catch by Omar Cooper Junior.
[1:02:26] Speaker 1: I have less in terms of bullet points for the
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: case for Indiana.
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: One.
[1:02:31] Speaker 3: They're impervious to mistakes. That's a really good case for
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: an that's it. Let's close the show out right.
[1:02:38] Speaker 1: Two.
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: They just rocked Oregon in Alabama. They didn't beat them,
[1:02:41] Speaker 3: they didn't comfortably win those games.
[1:02:43] Speaker 2: They rocked them.
[1:02:44] Speaker 3: Okay, those are two really good teams, at least at
[1:02:47] Speaker 3: their best, and in every important metric regard they're superior.
[1:02:55] Speaker 3: They do every little, medium and big thing better more
[1:02:59] Speaker 3: consist instantly over time. When you weigh a sample size,
[1:03:03] Speaker 3: whether it's third down, whether it's red zone, whether it's
[1:03:07] Speaker 3: first down, whether it's passing downs, whether it's rushing the passer.
[1:03:12] Speaker 3: I don't have the exact pass rushing numbers in front
[1:03:14] Speaker 3: of me, but if they're not superior, they're nearly identical.
[1:03:18] Speaker 3: There is no statistical point in this game is played
[1:03:21] Speaker 3: on the field that is not played on paper. Also
[1:03:24] Speaker 3: check out Game on Paper. They do a great job
[1:03:26] Speaker 3: with advanced college. Will just launch some.
[1:03:28] Speaker 1: New features too, by the way, yes, yeah, go and
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: check out Game on Paper dot Com. A lot of
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: interesting ways to look at the sport. Oh yeah, all right.
[1:03:36] Speaker 3: In terms of production in the whole Kurt Signetti product
[1:03:39] Speaker 3: production over what projection or potential or whatever Indiana produces.
[1:03:44] Speaker 3: They get the job done more often on more downs
[1:03:47] Speaker 3: and more situations, on more stages in a more difficult
[1:03:51] Speaker 3: conference this season than Miami was able to do so,
[1:03:54] Speaker 3: just in terms of the path to get here, it's
[1:03:57] Speaker 3: paved with more success more often when you look at
[1:04:01] Speaker 3: Indiana's road, and that to me is meaningful, and so
[1:04:07] Speaker 3: at a certain point you have to pick a team,
[1:04:10] Speaker 3: and I've sort of been doubting. I mean, I haven't
[1:04:12] Speaker 3: been doubting Indian. Indiana has been excellent all season long.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: I guess I doubted them maybe a little bit heading
[1:04:17] Speaker 3: into the Illinois game.
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: Early on. I saw them winning that game and covering,
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: but you probably did. I don't think I did. I
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: know you didn't. I didn't know. I didn't I didn't.
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: I mean, I've been picking them since then.
[1:04:30] Speaker 3: But they're a murder machine. They are everything you want
[1:04:35] Speaker 3: a national champion to look like. And maybe I'm overestimating
[1:04:41] Speaker 3: them after Oregon and you know, thinking Oregon had a
[1:04:44] Speaker 3: shot in.
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: That game, but.
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: I don't know. They just have the look of a
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: team who can't lose this moment. I don't know.
[1:04:55] Speaker 3: I mean, the case is not complicated. They're they're better coached,
[1:04:59] Speaker 3: they ex acute better, they have a better quarterback, and
[1:05:02] Speaker 3: they have more ways to win more often.
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: What's your final score prediction?
[1:05:09] Speaker 2: My final score in this one is.
[1:05:12] Speaker 3: Twenty eight to seventeen Indiana. Okay, I have them winning
[1:05:17] Speaker 3: by eleven. I have it being back and forth somewhat.
[1:05:20] Speaker 3: I do have some kind of killer Miami mistake in
[1:05:23] Speaker 3: this one, and the rhythm not being a blowout, not
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: being last second.
[1:05:30] Speaker 2: I have a reasonably comfortable Indiana win here.
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: I also have Indiana by eleven. Again, we don't who
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: to thunk. We don't run these past one another before
[1:05:42] Speaker 1: we go live.
[1:05:43] Speaker 2: But quick math on your part, by the way.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, not great at math. I've got it
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty Indiana, so a little bit higher scoring.
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: I guess it would hit the over there's just too
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: much to like, you know, they're so buttoned up. This
[1:06:00] Speaker 1: isn't to say they won't make mistakes or can't make mistakes,
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: but Indiana is definitely less mistake prone. That's the understatement
[1:06:08] Speaker 1: of the century as compared to Miami. Not that Miami
[1:06:11] Speaker 1: is super mistake prone in terms of the backbreaking stuff,
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: but it's a lot of the little stuff, a lot
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: of the little stuff with penalties, some of the play calling,
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: some of the decisions. It just doesn't feel like that's
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: as much of a risk on the Indiana side. So
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: Indiana favored by eight and a half again at time
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: of recording. I guess we're both going oh with the Hoosiers. Yeah,
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: thirty one twenty is my final.
[1:06:36] Speaker 3: Twenty eight to seventeen. I think low scoring first quarter,
[1:06:40] Speaker 3: if any scoring, like a three to nothing first quarter,
[1:06:42] Speaker 3: as teams get a feel for the game.
[1:06:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:06:45] Speaker 3: But yeah, ultimately, I think you know, one of the
[1:06:48] Speaker 3: things that I guess we didn't fully mention, but you
[1:06:50] Speaker 3: were talking about run defense in this one. Iowa was
[1:06:54] Speaker 3: able to run some on Indiana this year. Oregon was
[1:06:57] Speaker 3: able to run some in that first match up Ohio State,
[1:07:01] Speaker 3: I want to say, was able to run a little bit.
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: I know that was, you know, a big Jeremiah Smith
[1:07:06] Speaker 3: game against Indiana. But if you are going to you know,
[1:07:11] Speaker 3: in this again something you've mentioned, if you are going
[1:07:14] Speaker 3: to dictate a little bit in this game against Indiana,
[1:07:17] Speaker 3: it seems like it has to be on the ground.
[1:07:20] Speaker 3: It just does not seem like we're gonna walk away
[1:07:22] Speaker 3: from this game. We're like, Wow, I was a Carson
[1:07:23] Speaker 3: back game.
[1:07:24] Speaker 1: Who to thunk. So that's that's a place where Miami
[1:07:30] Speaker 1: can make some hay.
[1:07:30] Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I have you know.
[1:07:35] Speaker 3: Ultimately it's a a combination of quarterback and lines, defense
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: and coach. I think Indiana is just they measure up
[1:07:42] Speaker 3: a little bit better.
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I'd love to hear from Arvard
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: ballerhood on this one. As you know, you can't go
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: out to Verballers dot com to help support the team.
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: You can, of course look us up on any of
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: our social platforms. We can always email sOliver Well at
[1:08:00] Speaker 1: gmail dot com and let us know your thoughts. For
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: what it's worth. I did post a pull out on
[1:08:05] Speaker 1: our solid Verbal YouTube channel asking people which side of
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: the bet they would take Indiana minus seven and a
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: half at the time this was a few days ago,
[1:08:17] Speaker 1: or Miami plus seven and a half seventy seven percent
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: of the respondents and we got a good number of
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: people who responded over eighteen hundred seventy seven percent when
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: Indiana minus the number.
[1:08:30] Speaker 3: What is what are the like the betting numbers? I
[1:08:31] Speaker 3: don't know if you pulled those, like where is the
[1:08:34] Speaker 3: where are the majority of the bets? Where's the majority
[1:08:36] Speaker 3: of the money? I don't know if you have that
[1:08:38] Speaker 3: on any of those wagering sites.
[1:08:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, I can pull it up real quick. My hunch
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: is that there is a lot of steam on Indiana.
[1:08:45] Speaker 1: Because the opening number was seven and a half in
[1:08:49] Speaker 1: favor of the Hoosiers. The fact that that has now
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: gone up a little bit tells me that we're probably
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: seeing a little bit of a move towards, you know,
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers. Right now, eighty nine percent of the
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: money and eighty percent of the bets are on Indiana.
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: So if you are of the mind that you want
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: to fade the public, and it's not always the worst strategy,
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: Miami plus eight and a half could be interesting. Maybe
[1:09:14] Speaker 1: that number jumps up a little bit to nine. I
[1:09:16] Speaker 1: think in some places it's already at nine. If betting is.
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: Your thing, did you weigh the fact that Miami has
[1:09:22] Speaker 3: its own self sustaining energy source in Michael Irvin on
[1:09:25] Speaker 3: their sideline.
[1:09:25] Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you should mention that because one of
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: the other questions that I jotted down here that I
[1:09:30] Speaker 1: was going to ask as a bit of a gag
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: to close out the show. Yeah, maybe this is my moment.
[1:09:35] Speaker 1: But on our bol Bingo card again, thirty props. It's
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: free to play. All you gotta do is pick six.
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: I interject couple of my own in there, of course,
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: to keep things interesting, and one that I added was
[1:09:47] Speaker 1: Michael Irvin will be flagged for some kind of sideline warning. WHOA.
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: I like that, So we can't rule it out, and
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, but seeing him sort of
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: convulse on the side sidelines throughout the course of this
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: playoff run, there's at least a chance that Michael Irvin
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: could somehow be involved in a sideline fracas and be
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: flagged for a sideline violation.
[1:10:10] Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I like that.
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: And you know, at time of recording, I don't believe
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: ESPN has released yet what their full broadcast strategy is
[1:10:22] Speaker 1: going to be, so obviously they're going to cover the game.
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: It would be Fouler and Herbie on the call, but
[1:10:27] Speaker 1: typically they have a bunch of alt casts. So I
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: think we saw they're going to be doing a coaches
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: room again, saw that.
[1:10:33] Speaker 2: Who have they announced who I haven't seen.
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: Who's going to be in it. They'll probably do the
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: sideline thing with the McAfee show like they've been doing
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: for the other games Skycast, they'll have the command center
[1:10:43] Speaker 1: of the one where they've got all the stats up
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: on ESPN News or something. That's my assumption. I haven't
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: seen official announcements on that yet, but my hunch is
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: that they're going to have a whole host of those.
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: I stand by what I said a couple of weeks ago.
[1:10:56] Speaker 1: We need the Irvin cast. We need the Irvin casts.
[1:10:59] Speaker 1: Just show them, show him, put him on a split
[1:11:02] Speaker 1: screen with what's going on in the game. That would
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: be high entertainment. You can you stream live from like
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: the Meta glasses, the Facebook.
[1:11:10] Speaker 2: It's gonna be wear those.
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: That'd be perfect, absolutely perfect.
[1:11:15] Speaker 2: That'd be great.
[1:11:16] Speaker 1: You saw that the halftime show is Seventh Floor Crew reuniting. No,
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: it's not the halftime show. I did look it up.
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: It's the marching bands.
[1:11:24] Speaker 2: They do that, but oh, that's it.
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: Pitbull is going to be performing in the lead up
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: to the game, Mister three h five, Well obviously obviously
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: got to perform.
[1:11:33] Speaker 3: Do you think he is going to to like bring
[1:11:35] Speaker 3: back the Dr Pepper, Like, is that going to be
[1:11:37] Speaker 3: part of his set list?
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate it, you know, I wouldn't hate it.
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate that. I have a real good time.
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: That's that song, right, that's the Dodtor Pepper song. It's
[1:11:48] Speaker 2: been so long.
[1:11:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I have any other
[1:11:52] Speaker 3: like throwaway. There's gonna be a lot of cutaways to
[1:11:56] Speaker 3: former Miami players on the sideline. We'll probably to get
[1:12:00] Speaker 3: at least one shot of Mark Cuban of cubes in
[1:12:03] Speaker 3: a suite in this one. Are there other Indiana luminaries
[1:12:07] Speaker 3: Joe are going to.
[1:12:09] Speaker 1: I don't have Joe Buckle be there, but Joe bucksa
[1:12:13] Speaker 1: Indiana luminary.
[1:12:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There's what's his name?
[1:12:18] Speaker 3: Has the like has his own like a suite, right,
[1:12:21] Speaker 3: so he can smoke at the Indiana Games. John Mellencamp,
[1:12:26] Speaker 3: John Mellencamp. But you know about this, right, he has
[1:12:27] Speaker 3: his own suite on the roof so he can smoke
[1:12:30] Speaker 3: during Indiana games. So you got John Mellencamp. I'm trying
[1:12:33] Speaker 3: to think of other Indiana or Indiana sports luminaries that
[1:12:37] Speaker 3: would be there. I don't know, but yeah, we'll have
[1:12:42] Speaker 3: we'll have a good amount of Miami cutaways the other
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: By the way, here's the other thing.
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: I probably should have mentioned this earlier.
[1:12:49] Speaker 3: Kind of crazy that this is the retirement year of
[1:12:52] Speaker 3: former Indiana head coach Lee Corso from college football and
[1:12:55] Speaker 3: Indiana's in the championship.
[1:12:56] Speaker 1: Is it is a little weird, isn't it.
[1:12:58] Speaker 2: He's going to be in in Indiana sweater.
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: There has to be.
[1:13:02] Speaker 3: There's going to be like in our old friends. Oh yeah,
[1:13:05] Speaker 3: the legendary leak course, so Sunshine, it would be cool
[1:13:08] Speaker 3: if they brought him back as the guest picker.
[1:13:11] Speaker 1: That would be. That would be incredible. That would be
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: pretty cool. I don't hope they got yeah, but that
[1:13:16] Speaker 1: would be that would be pretty awesome. Yeah. No, I'm
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: excited to see luminary cutaways.
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there, we're both on Indiana.
[1:13:26] Speaker 1: Let us know who you are picking anywhere you can email,
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: social media, uh comments as you're watching this video or
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: listening to this out on Spotify or any of the
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: apps that allow it. We'd love to hear from you. Yes,
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: let us know where we're right, let us know where
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: we're wrong.
[1:13:43] Speaker 3: We've got they always do tie. They always let us
[1:13:45] Speaker 3: know where we need no prompting.
[1:13:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, they're always letting us know where we're right and wrong,
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: especially the Indiana people this year, especially the Indiana people
[1:13:53] Speaker 1: this year.
[1:13:54] Speaker 3: They're they're shooting out of the ground, Tye, you never
[1:13:57] Speaker 3: saw them before. You can always see like those eight
[1:14:00] Speaker 3: year locusts that just sort of emerge. Yes, yes, yeah,
[1:14:04] Speaker 3: what are they? The what's it called, Taye? Look at
[1:14:09] Speaker 3: the Cicada's right, The sig cadas is what I called
[1:14:12] Speaker 3: them during the season. But I don't know if you've
[1:14:14] Speaker 3: ever seen the clip of who's the guy that did
[1:14:16] Speaker 3: gangdam style him? Like shooting out of the floor. They
[1:14:20] Speaker 3: just shoot out of nowhere. These Indiana fans all honestly
[1:14:26] Speaker 3: thrilled for him. Think about the life of like a
[1:14:29] Speaker 3: true blue Indiana football fan. Like if you go back
[1:14:32] Speaker 3: and look at like any Indiana football preview that we've done,
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: that anybody's done, there's always like one guy.
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: Be like, oh no, if we could break right away,
[1:14:39] Speaker 1: we go four to eight, and.
[1:14:42] Speaker 3: I just, I don't know, it's pretty crazy and I'm
[1:14:44] Speaker 3: pretty happy for everybody involved in this one.
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: Fan wise, Indiana against Miami got one big one left.
[1:14:51] Speaker 1: On Monday night, January nineteenth, kicking off from hard Rock
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: Stadium in Miami, Dan and I will be back with
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: you guys right after the game. We'll do it live
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: on YouTube. We'll also put it out here on the
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: audio feed. That'll are we doing a watch along? Have
[1:15:05] Speaker 1: we even discussed that? I don't think we discussed it.
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: I'd be open to it.
[1:15:08] Speaker 2: If you want to, I'm open to it. Sure.
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think social media, Email
[1:15:15] Speaker 1: out on Patreon, what have you. If it's something you want,
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: leave us a comment. We'll see if it's something we
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: can put together. We got one big one left. Everybody
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: care win national championship. We'll catch you all on Monday night.
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: In the meantime for that guy, my good friend Dan
[1:15:30] Speaker 1: Rubenstein from myself, Ty Hildebrand. Enjoy your weekend, enjoy the game,
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: and until next time, stay solid.
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: Peace.

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