# CFP First Round Predictions + Lagway & Raiola Enter The Portal | College Football

An episode of [The Solid Verbal College Football Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/270037732), 16 Dec 2025, 1 h 27 min.

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The College Football Playoff is here. In this episode, we pop the hood on the four first round matchups and break down our biggest questions. Is Oklahoma more lucky than good? Can Alabama's offense get out of its rut? How will Miami's offensive line hold up against Texas A&M's front four and a loud Kyle Field? Are the Aggies trustworthy? To what degree will Ole Miss feel the absence of Lane Kiffin? Can Oregon run against James Madison? And do both Tulane and JMU belong in the College Football Playoff? Plus, breaking news with both DJ Lagway and Dylan Raiola reportedly jumping in the transfer portal, the latest names in the Michigan coaching search, and Fernando Mendoza's Heisman victory. Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro 3:47 - Latest News 30:14 - Alabama vs Oklahoma CFP Predictions 44:32 - Miami vs Texas A&M CFP Predictions 56:13 - Tulane vs Ole Miss CFP Predictions 1:16:52 - James Madison vs Oregon CFP Predictions Support the show!: https://www.patreon.com/solidverbal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull ah for me. I'm
[0:06] Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
[0:09] Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
[0:11] Speaker 1: for dake Edo State? Is that whoo whoom? And Dan
[0:16] Speaker 1: and tie Dan Rubertstein.
[0:19] Speaker 2: It's playoff League, baby, Yes, sir, the place, sir, it
[0:22] Speaker 2: is are upon us, my friend, welcome back to the show.
[0:25] Speaker 1: How you doing today? I'm good. I'm very cold. It
[0:28] Speaker 1: is very frigid here in the Midwest, and that's okay.
[0:32] Speaker 1: I signed up for it. I knew that this was
[0:33] Speaker 1: going to be a reality. But every winter strikes, and
[0:37] Speaker 1: no matter if it's mild, no matter if it's violent,
[0:39] Speaker 1: it is always a little bit depressing when the world
[0:43] Speaker 1: just comes to a standstill, when everything just sort of
[0:47] Speaker 1: freezes over and everything is sort of paralyzed, and I
[0:52] Speaker 1: have to go outside for eighteen minutes and walk a
[0:56] Speaker 1: kid to school. That's the tough I'm the real victim here,
[0:58] Speaker 1: ty Now. Other than that, I'm okay. I'm very excited
[1:01] Speaker 1: that it's playoff week. How you doing. I'm good.
[1:03] Speaker 2: You know, we got a surprise eight inch snowfall the
[1:07] Speaker 2: other night, and though it was miserable, for us humans.
[1:11] Speaker 2: My two snow dogs loved it, loved it.
[1:14] Speaker 1: Dan. They could not get enough of it.
[1:16] Speaker 2: I had to lure them in with more treats than usual,
[1:21] Speaker 2: and they are now whimpering by the door twenty four
[1:24] Speaker 2: to seven, wanting to go back out and play.
[1:26] Speaker 1: And wanting to get back out there and frolic.
[1:27] Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not great for the humans, but it's
[1:30] Speaker 2: great for the snow dogs. Welcome back, one and all,
[1:33] Speaker 2: wherever you may be. Hopefully you are warm and cozy
[1:37] Speaker 2: and ready to imbibe a full hour or so of
[1:40] Speaker 2: college football. We've got the four playoff games that Dan
[1:43] Speaker 2: and I are going to preview.
[1:44] Speaker 1: We've also got some news.
[1:46] Speaker 2: We've also got some news about our big postseason game
[1:49] Speaker 2: out at Verbalis Time. I will talk through that a
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[2:31] Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, Yes, by the way, I did notice, just
[2:34] Speaker 1: to tie some of what there's tie, tie this a
[2:37] Speaker 1: little bit together. I don't think unlike last season, I
[2:40] Speaker 1: don't think we have a frigid opening round playoffs that
[2:43] Speaker 1: you do not last year we had both Penn State
[2:46] Speaker 1: and Notre Dame hosting very cold, like twenties thirties. I
[2:49] Speaker 1: think Penn State might have dipped into the like sixteen seventeen.
[2:52] Speaker 2: I know Range, I know a handful of people that
[2:55] Speaker 2: were at that game, and they were all miserable.
[2:58] Speaker 1: That was a horrible sit for a.
[3:01] Speaker 2: Great stadium, a great event, very cool, a very big
[3:05] Speaker 2: win for the Penn State program.
[3:07] Speaker 1: A horrible experience for everybody else. Yes, Eugene, maybe like forties,
[3:13] Speaker 1: that's fine. I would love I would bask in forties.
[3:15] Speaker 1: Forties is tropical with what I'm dealing with right now.
[3:18] Speaker 1: But otherwise, right Oxford, Mississippi and College Station, Texas both
[3:26] Speaker 1: looking like nice days. Norman, Oklahoma should be nice out.
[3:29] Speaker 1: Everything looks like sixty seventies somewhere in there, so decent
[3:33] Speaker 1: enough football weather, so we're not going to get that
[3:35] Speaker 1: litteral element to it. But yeah, we don't have frigid tempts,
[3:39] Speaker 1: which is a win for everybody standing around, and I
[3:43] Speaker 1: guess a loss for those of us at home who
[3:45] Speaker 1: enjoy like the texture of it all. Dan, should we
[3:48] Speaker 1: jump into some of the news of the day. I
[3:50] Speaker 1: would love to. I'm not going to do the thing
[3:58] Speaker 1: where I yell here, I'm sure and serve my voice.
[4:01] Speaker 1: Is going to be a long week. You know what
[4:03] Speaker 1: this is.
[4:03] Speaker 2: This is load management tie, That's exactly what this is.
[4:06] Speaker 2: I'm doing a little Joelle and beat over here. Twenty
[4:09] Speaker 2: seventeen tie never would have stood for that, but here
[4:11] Speaker 2: we are. We have a Heisman Trophy winner. His name
[4:14] Speaker 2: is Fernando Mendoza of Indiana. He beat out Diego Pavia,
[4:20] Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, and Julian Saying, coming in fifth place, though
[4:24] Speaker 2: he wasn't there. Jacob Rodriguez shout out to him actually
[4:27] Speaker 2: got more first place votes as the fifth place finisher
[4:30] Speaker 2: than Julian Sayan did as the fourth place finisher.
[4:33] Speaker 1: Okay, not a huge surprise, right.
[4:35] Speaker 2: Fornana Mendoza was sort of the name that I think
[4:37] Speaker 2: most had expected would get this award. It really was
[4:41] Speaker 2: a question of is it going to be close? Is
[4:44] Speaker 2: it going to be a blowout? It kind of wasn't either,
[4:47] Speaker 2: but there was a pretty healthy margin between Fernanda Mendoza,
[4:51] Speaker 2: who had twenty three hundred total points after the vote,
[4:53] Speaker 2: and Diego Pavia, who had fourteen hundred and thirty five.
[4:58] Speaker 2: I guess the big story with this is not so
[5:00] Speaker 2: much Fernando Mendoza winning the Heisman as it was Diego
[5:02] Speaker 2: Pavia losing the Heisman and being a little bit weird afterwards. Yeah,
[5:07] Speaker 2: got some headlines by posting a picture or a video
[5:11] Speaker 2: or somehow it came out of him holding an f
[5:13] Speaker 2: Indiana sign shooting at the bird. He also had an
[5:17] Speaker 2: Instagram story saying f all the voters with him and
[5:20] Speaker 2: his boys saw that. He then came back after the
[5:23] Speaker 2: fact and issued an apology stated that Fernanda Mendoz is
[5:26] Speaker 2: an elite competitor gave compliments to the others. So honestly,
[5:30] Speaker 2: the thing that I noticed was it had nothing to
[5:32] Speaker 2: do with any of these Instagram stories or whatever derogatory
[5:36] Speaker 2: signs he was holding. Did you see the picture of
[5:39] Speaker 2: him next to the other competitors.
[5:42] Speaker 1: That he's more diminutive.
[5:44] Speaker 2: He looked tiny by comparison. This is not to take
[5:47] Speaker 2: away we love Diego Pavia ty. We celebrate our short
[5:51] Speaker 2: kings here, do we not.
[5:53] Speaker 1: We absolutely do. The Rogers brothers and that would be
[5:57] Speaker 1: Jaquiz and James, not Jordan and Aaron are absolutely in
[6:01] Speaker 1: the solid verbal ring of honor.
[6:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I noticed that. If you've ever seen
[6:07] Speaker 2: that old picture of like I think it was the
[6:10] Speaker 2: Rock with Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal, the three of
[6:14] Speaker 2: them standing in a row, A.
[6:15] Speaker 1: Rocket's just diminutive.
[6:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of got vibes of that looking at Diego Pavia,
[6:20] Speaker 2: who again deserved to be there, had a hell of
[6:22] Speaker 2: a campaign with Vanderbilt both this year, this year and
[6:25] Speaker 2: last and certainly a couple of years before that before
[6:29] Speaker 2: he came over to Dandy.
[6:30] Speaker 1: But that was the real eye opener to me, Like,
[6:32] Speaker 1: holy cal Well, I guess I mean speaking of Ring
[6:35] Speaker 1: of Honor, maybe Notre Dame after seeing such a sore loser,
[6:38] Speaker 1: will induct him into theirs, right, the Notre Dame Ring
[6:42] Speaker 1: of Honor, the like some sort of exemption for a
[6:44] Speaker 1: non Irish player, Diego Pavia for excellence in the field
[6:47] Speaker 1: of being a sore loser. No stop, I think that
[6:51] Speaker 1: tracks first of all, And may I say, Diego, I
[6:55] Speaker 1: don't have a Heisman vote, and probably for good reason.
[6:57] Speaker 1: I'm like Toby Gerhardt all day way back when I
[7:00] Speaker 1: I still am pissed about him, and you know, basically
[7:02] Speaker 1: any white Stanford running back. I guess with Christian McCaffrey too.
[7:06] Speaker 1: But Diego Pavia, to me, the combination of his dual
[7:10] Speaker 1: threat ability in that conference, what he accomplished, and just
[7:15] Speaker 1: I like to award a coolness factor, like I take
[7:17] Speaker 1: that in, like, how cool is it to watch this player?
[7:20] Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza was excellent. And we all know that there's
[7:22] Speaker 1: nothing you can say about an Indiana football player that
[7:25] Speaker 1: will satisfy Indiana fans at this point, right, So, like
[7:28] Speaker 1: you get to that level, not even possible, right, And
[7:32] Speaker 1: they'll never be They'll never have a scandal, which is cool.
[7:36] Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza was excellent and every bit earned the Heisman.
[7:40] Speaker 1: My vote would have been Diego Pavia because I just
[7:43] Speaker 1: enjoyed watching him more with the stats, with his accomplishment
[7:47] Speaker 1: that that was put up. I think what he has
[7:50] Speaker 1: done has more has provided me with more excellent entertainment
[7:56] Speaker 1: this year. And it's okay if you disagree, but that's
[7:58] Speaker 1: where I would have gone with my with my vote.
[8:01] Speaker 1: But yeah, I understand all perspectives here, so I probably
[8:04] Speaker 1: would have voted for Pavia too.
[8:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, personally, and again not to take anything away from
[8:09] Speaker 2: the other guys, they're all clearly deserving of being in
[8:13] Speaker 2: this conversation, But the way that Pavia kind of put
[8:17] Speaker 2: the Vanderbilt offense on his back, I think he showed
[8:21] Speaker 2: real improvement this year, which is something that sort of
[8:24] Speaker 2: gets lost in the wash of the national conversation around
[8:27] Speaker 2: Pavi and how entertaining he is. But if you look
[8:29] Speaker 2: a lot at his numb at a lot of his numbers,
[8:31] Speaker 2: he's improved. He got a lot better as a passer.
[8:34] Speaker 2: This is a better Vandy team than it was a
[8:35] Speaker 2: year ago. That's why, Yeah, the precipice of making the
[8:38] Speaker 2: college football Playoff.
[8:39] Speaker 1: They didn't, but kudos to him.
[8:42] Speaker 2: Kudos to Fernana Mendoz is a very big deal for
[8:44] Speaker 2: him after he transfers over from cal It's a very
[8:47] Speaker 2: big deal for the Indiana football program.
[8:49] Speaker 1: Look, they're ring.
[8:50] Speaker 2: This is only year two two under Kurt Signetti, and
[8:55] Speaker 2: they've already got a Heisman Trophy winner. They're going to
[8:57] Speaker 2: be the number one seed in the upcoming College FOOTBA Playoff.
[9:00] Speaker 2: It's a really, really good time to be a Hoosier fan.
[9:04] Speaker 2: And honestly, I just going through some of this playoff
[9:08] Speaker 2: stuff and trying to game plan out how I feel
[9:11] Speaker 2: the bracket's gonna work. I still have to twist myself
[9:14] Speaker 2: into a bit of a mental pretzel to remember that
[9:17] Speaker 2: Indiana is this good and that it is not your
[9:20] Speaker 2: father's Indiana. This is a very very good Indiana team
[9:23] Speaker 2: that's got a lot of balance and a bunch of
[9:25] Speaker 2: different ways to beat you, both on offense defense, and
[9:28] Speaker 2: Mendoza that has done this season is certainly a testament
[9:31] Speaker 2: to that. So good job to him, Good job to
[9:34] Speaker 2: all of the competitors here that made it to New York.
[9:37] Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Fernanda Mendoza, your twenty twenty five Heisman Trophy winner.
[9:41] Speaker 1: Is he the only or one of the only Heisman
[9:46] Speaker 1: winners or finalists who have like a robust linked in account.
[9:50] Speaker 1: Have you seen that from him? That he's has internships
[9:53] Speaker 1: and he's talked about being proficient in Excel. I think
[9:56] Speaker 1: it was like a real estate investment firm because he
[9:59] Speaker 1: was initially I want to see a Yale commit, right, Okay,
[10:02] Speaker 1: and then he went to CAL. Yeah, I think that's true.
[10:05] Speaker 1: Or he was either heavily recruited by Yale then went
[10:06] Speaker 1: to Cal. But I think he was a Yale commit,
[10:08] Speaker 1: went to Cal and was involved in like VC stuff
[10:12] Speaker 1: there as an intern, Like he was putting in like
[10:13] Speaker 1: a bunch. I think he got his degree at Cal
[10:16] Speaker 1: from like the business school at CAL. I could be
[10:18] Speaker 1: making up all of this. This is probably like eighty
[10:20] Speaker 1: three percent true and like super impressive dude, obviously both
[10:24] Speaker 1: on and off the field. But I want to say, I'm,
[10:28] Speaker 1: first of all, I'm raising my hand right now, not
[10:31] Speaker 1: proficient in Excel, and I've been out of school for
[10:34] Speaker 1: quite some time. I'm alright, I can, I can, so
[10:37] Speaker 1: you'd say proficient. Oh, I'm definitely proficient.
[10:40] Speaker 2: I'm a greade above proficient, but I'm probably not at
[10:42] Speaker 2: Mendoze levels with it.
[10:44] Speaker 1: But you didn't. You didn't exaggerate anything on your LinkedIn profile,
[10:47] Speaker 1: and like you didn't say like conversational in like Portuguese
[10:51] Speaker 1: or something. No, okay, just making sure so yes, all
[10:55] Speaker 1: worthy finalists and near finalists. Obviously, Jacob Rodriguez had an
[10:59] Speaker 1: enormous season. But by the way, just more from the weekend.
[11:03] Speaker 1: I know we've got a bunch to get to with
[11:04] Speaker 1: both the games and news and opinions and whatever. Navy
[11:10] Speaker 1: eked by Army in a really fun end of that
[11:12] Speaker 1: game with the fumble and the fourth and one conversion
[11:15] Speaker 1: at the end.
[11:16] Speaker 2: A great game, that was real fun, fun game. Mama
[11:20] Speaker 2: h texted me, She's like, what are you doing? And
[11:22] Speaker 2: I didn't have it all at the time. I was
[11:23] Speaker 2: sort of working on some stuff here around the house
[11:27] Speaker 2: and didn't have a chance to like watch it the
[11:28] Speaker 2: full way through. But she's like, you got get in
[11:30] Speaker 2: front of the TV. You're supposed to be a college
[11:32] Speaker 2: football guy. Enjoyed thoroughly that fourth quarter. A really really
[11:37] Speaker 2: great game. As you said, Navy wins. It's seventeen to sixteen.
[11:40] Speaker 2: As we said, you got to throw out.
[11:41] Speaker 1: The records in the Army Navy.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Gotta throw the record. Take the points, just take the
[11:45] Speaker 2: under points.
[11:47] Speaker 1: Yeah. Also saw that Washington wins the final Bucked Up
[11:52] Speaker 1: LA Bowl presented by Gronk Gronk whatever they're getting rid
[11:56] Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I think this was the final one.
[11:59] Speaker 1: Maybe it'll happen because before it was what the Jimmy
[12:01] Speaker 1: Kimmel l a bowl, right, and now it's the Bucked Up,
[12:04] Speaker 1: which we discovered makes various protein shakes, labl Washington throttled boise,
[12:10] Speaker 1: slowish competitive start, back and forth a little bit, but Washington,
[12:14] Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, was just too much. And
[12:18] Speaker 1: we'll see what Jedfish's future is because we're at his
[12:21] Speaker 1: magical time of like that two three year window where
[12:24] Speaker 1: he decided Jedfish is on tour. He's not the only
[12:26] Speaker 1: fish on tour, tie, he is not the only fit
[12:31] Speaker 1: and does does the tour stop in at ann Arbor TVD, TVD.
[12:35] Speaker 1: They're still serting out the dates. But Jedfish, I mean, look,
[12:39] Speaker 1: the Washington program was a mess after Kalin de Boor
[12:42] Speaker 1: left and all the starter's gone and everything, and he's
[12:43] Speaker 1: done a nice job recruiting and building this back into
[12:46] Speaker 1: like a pretty decent team. They had a really nice
[12:49] Speaker 1: offense for stretches. The defense is pretty good this year
[12:52] Speaker 1: as well. But man, that dude can't stay put. That
[12:55] Speaker 1: dude just gets restless. He always needs a new hobby,
[12:58] Speaker 1: he needs a new fix. And we'll see, we'll see
[13:00] Speaker 1: if that moves on to Ann Arbor.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the Michigan coaching search, and I did
[13:06] Speaker 2: refresh the old hot board a little bit before we
[13:10] Speaker 2: hit oh yeah, to see where things stood. And this
[13:13] Speaker 2: is from our friend Pete Nacos over at on three
[13:16] Speaker 2: Alabama and Kaylin de Borr are having ongoing talks about
[13:19] Speaker 2: an extension, but nothing has been agreed upon or signed.
[13:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking with sources.
[13:25] Speaker 2: The other five names that continue to come up the
[13:27] Speaker 2: most are Louisville's Jeff Brahm, Arizona State's Kenny Dillingham, Okay
[13:33] Speaker 2: missus Eli Drinkwitz, Washington's Jedfish and LA Chargers defensive coordinator
[13:40] Speaker 2: Jesse Minter.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Yep, some interesting names.
[13:43] Speaker 2: We have been hearing most of those names throughout this
[13:46] Speaker 2: coaching carousel cycle. Of course, that was all before the
[13:49] Speaker 2: Michigan job came open.
[13:51] Speaker 1: Minter as a show cause, by the way, I think
[13:53] Speaker 1: until the spring, I want to say, and that's around
[13:56] Speaker 1: recruiting violations. I don't believe it's tied to the the
[14:00] Speaker 1: cheating scandal right the Connor Stallion's scouting stuff. But you
[14:05] Speaker 1: can fact check me on that. That's fine, But I
[14:06] Speaker 1: want to say that's what it's regarding. I don't think
[14:09] Speaker 1: if he's truly the guy, Michigan will figure out a
[14:11] Speaker 1: way to figure it out. But obviously the Chargers of
[14:14] Speaker 1: the Middle, they're good, right, they're good this season? Yeah,
[14:16] Speaker 1: I think so. I think they're pretty decent. They swept
[14:18] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but the Chiefs aren't good. I don't know.
[14:20] Speaker 1: I don't really follow the NFL until the playoffs. Other
[14:23] Speaker 1: names are interesting. You know, Eli Drinkwitz reportedly turned down
[14:28] Speaker 1: interest in the Penn State job, and I want to
[14:31] Speaker 1: say extended or is in talks to extend at MISSOO.
[14:34] Speaker 1: The Kailen de Bor statement was interesting, like he said
[14:37] Speaker 1: I haven't had talks but didn't mention representation and like
[14:40] Speaker 1: it's sort of at this time, we haven't signed an extension,
[14:43] Speaker 1: so you know, I think there's careful wording there. But
[14:48] Speaker 1: also I don't think Kaylen de Bor after replacing Nick
[14:53] Speaker 1: Saban wants to get in a situation at Michigan with
[14:56] Speaker 1: that much uncertainty behind the scenes and with leadership, and
[14:59] Speaker 1: I don't you know, I think jet Fish would like
[15:02] Speaker 1: like in the way you would pay to host a
[15:03] Speaker 1: show on cable access. I think he would pay two
[15:05] Speaker 1: hundred and fifty grand a year to coach Michigan. I
[15:08] Speaker 1: don't think you would have to pay him. I think
[15:10] Speaker 1: he would pay a fee. So we'll see. I'm sure
[15:14] Speaker 1: there are mystery candidates that have spoken to Michigan that
[15:16] Speaker 1: we don't know about. But it's fascinating given I think
[15:20] Speaker 1: the uncertainty around Ward Manual that we have an interim
[15:22] Speaker 1: president at Michigan to deal with here A that's a
[15:27] Speaker 1: heavy job right now. That is a heavy job with
[15:30] Speaker 1: a lot behind it right now, And I'm sure they're
[15:32] Speaker 1: gonna have to pay a premium with everything right with
[15:35] Speaker 1: an assistant pool this late in the game, with nil stuff,
[15:38] Speaker 1: new guys gonna have to convince a ton of players
[15:41] Speaker 1: making a butt. They signed the number one running back,
[15:43] Speaker 1: they have Bryce Underwood, like, there's a lot of money
[15:45] Speaker 1: tied up in this current roster before whatever we see
[15:48] Speaker 1: from this portal stage with Michigan. It's a heavy job.
[15:53] Speaker 1: It's in a heavy ask right now.
[15:55] Speaker 2: We'll see, we will absolutely see. I saw something that
[15:59] Speaker 2: reference to them wanting to try and get a guy
[16:01] Speaker 2: in place by January the second. So look, it would
[16:04] Speaker 2: probably behoove him at this point. Take some time and
[16:06] Speaker 2: make sure you get it right. If nothing more, give
[16:09] Speaker 2: everything else a chance to die down, because it's still
[16:12] Speaker 2: very much, very much out in the public sphere. What's
[16:15] Speaker 2: been going on up at Michigan. What was Sharon Moore
[16:17] Speaker 2: being relieved of command, all the other stuff that followed.
[16:21] Speaker 2: Not a great situation up there been reading conflicting reports
[16:25] Speaker 2: about whether or not it is still an attractive job
[16:27] Speaker 2: to some of the top candidates. You would understand if
[16:29] Speaker 2: it wasn't clearly, you would still understand if it was,
[16:33] Speaker 2: because it's Michigan.
[16:34] Speaker 1: So I don't know.
[16:35] Speaker 2: I did the thing that I would react most to,
[16:37] Speaker 2: And I look, Jedfish isn't going to stay at Washington
[16:40] Speaker 2: all that long. He's just not That's not who Jedfish is.
[16:43] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter where he's coaching, it's just not that guy.
[16:46] Speaker 2: But I reacted a little bit to seeing Kenny Dillingham
[16:51] Speaker 2: get so emotional after one of his practices, the press
[16:55] Speaker 2: was asking him about, you know, potential interests, what have
[16:59] Speaker 2: you and other and he teared up. He got real
[17:02] Speaker 2: emotional about it, and my thought was, well, you don't
[17:04] Speaker 2: usually react like that if you're staying put right. He's
[17:07] Speaker 2: just emotional guy though, But he is an emotional guy.
[17:10] Speaker 2: I don't want to read too deeply into that, but
[17:13] Speaker 2: it was notable to me, if nothing more, just because
[17:15] Speaker 2: you know how it is this time of year when
[17:17] Speaker 2: we've got these big openings. Everyone is looking for whatever
[17:20] Speaker 2: little tell they can find, and I wasn't sure how
[17:23] Speaker 2: to take that. We know he's emotional and fiery, and
[17:26] Speaker 2: that's part of why we like him. Yeah, just wasn't
[17:29] Speaker 2: sure how to interpret that little emotional outpouring that we
[17:33] Speaker 2: saw after practice.
[17:34] Speaker 1: You're also catching me on the wrong day when I'm
[17:36] Speaker 1: seeing all these guys, like, why are you going to
[17:37] Speaker 1: leave the sun to come to this part of the world.
[17:40] Speaker 1: If you're paying millions of dollars to stay in the sun,
[17:43] Speaker 1: why don't you just hang out there? Why don't you
[17:45] Speaker 1: just enjoy? What is that voice that's me? Just like
[17:49] Speaker 1: pulling Kenny Dillingham aside after practice, be like dude, don't
[17:52] Speaker 1: even why would you even consider this?
[17:53] Speaker 2: Dude?
[17:54] Speaker 1: Just stick around Scottsdale. You're fine. That's that voice right now.
[17:57] Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm the literal devil on the sun. Devil
[18:01] Speaker 1: head coaches shoulder telling him like, forget what are you doing? No, no, no, no,
[18:05] Speaker 1: no no, just hang everything's cool here, hang out. You
[18:07] Speaker 1: got a nice path of the playoff. You've already been
[18:09] Speaker 1: in the playoff? Should it be Texas? Like, just be cool,
[18:12] Speaker 1: get an extension, fake interest and be cool? All right?
[18:17] Speaker 2: And uh our final bit of news here. And this
[18:20] Speaker 2: has been developing over the course of the day. We're
[18:23] Speaker 2: recording this on Monday, around one thirty Eastern time. Yeah,
[18:27] Speaker 2: got some portal names.
[18:28] Speaker 1: Dan oh, and that is heating up on this cold,
[18:32] Speaker 1: cold day, the portal names intending to hit the portal.
[18:36] Speaker 1: Those names are heating up.
[18:37] Speaker 2: DJ Lagway to the transfer portal, Brendan Soresby to the
[18:42] Speaker 2: transfer portal, Aiden Chiles to the transfer portal. Kenny Minshe
[18:47] Speaker 2: jumped in a few days ago, but Kenny minscheew noting
[18:49] Speaker 2: backup will be highly regarded in this portal cycle to
[18:53] Speaker 2: the transfer portal, and most notably, just before we hit
[18:55] Speaker 2: the go button here Dylan Ryola expected to enter or
[19:00] Speaker 2: the transfer portal Dan, So there's going to be some
[19:04] Speaker 2: far reaching ramifications for this. Royola was a centerpiece for
[19:10] Speaker 2: the project that Matt Ruhle was building out in Lincoln.
[19:14] Speaker 2: Matt Rule, of course, just got an enormous extension to
[19:16] Speaker 2: stay put if he loses Royola again. There was some
[19:20] Speaker 2: hints of this, right, They got rid.
[19:22] Speaker 1: Of Donovan Royola, his uncle who was the offensive line coach. Dylan.
[19:27] Speaker 2: You and I, I know we have disagreed at times
[19:30] Speaker 2: or whether or not Dilan Royola is any good. But
[19:32] Speaker 2: Dylan Royola, if nothing more, is a name that will
[19:35] Speaker 2: definitely garner some interest in this transfer portal cycle. I'm
[19:39] Speaker 2: sure there will be no shortage of suitors. We will
[19:41] Speaker 2: see what he can do at a different locale. But
[19:44] Speaker 2: this is just the start of this, bro. Yeah, We're
[19:48] Speaker 2: going to see many more names that enter the transfer portal,
[19:52] Speaker 2: not just high profile guys at quarterback, but all throughout.
[19:55] Speaker 2: This is not anything that is slowing down anytime soon.
[19:58] Speaker 1: So now I'll go up.
[19:59] Speaker 2: There will be other big names, but it's gonna be
[20:01] Speaker 2: hard to top Rail in terms of just name power
[20:05] Speaker 2: that are going to be part of this thing.
[20:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you're gonna we've already seen some
[20:09] Speaker 1: top receivers. We've seen some top I mean not all
[20:13] Speaker 1: at the power conference level. I know I saw it.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Was it Danny, is it Scutero, Scudero, whatever, It's Santose State,
[20:19] Speaker 1: you know, super prolific. There's a big wake forest defensive
[20:22] Speaker 1: lineman who just went in and guys who can come
[20:24] Speaker 1: in and be like one man disruption crews along defensive
[20:28] Speaker 1: lines and change the outlook of what a team looks
[20:30] Speaker 1: like upfront and how much gravity is you know, assigned
[20:33] Speaker 1: to them. They're gonna be in high demand.
[20:35] Speaker 2: Obviously, that's what Texas guys. That was the Texas Tech
[20:38] Speaker 2: model this.
[20:39] Speaker 1: Well, they rebuilt the entire starting defensive line, I believe.
[20:42] Speaker 1: But even like you look at like like Nick s
[20:44] Speaker 1: Gorton when he went to A and M from Prdue,
[20:46] Speaker 1: like those guys are just gonna be in demand, like
[20:47] Speaker 1: the best of Bear Alexander this year at Oregon he
[20:50] Speaker 1: announced he's coming back by the way next season to Oregon.
[20:53] Speaker 1: But yeah, this is that season, and I think what
[20:56] Speaker 1: you're going to see a lot of is calculus be
[20:59] Speaker 1: high the scenes. I don't think Sam Levitt is in
[21:02] Speaker 1: but that's been a story that there seems to be
[21:04] Speaker 1: smoke there, so not reporting that, but I don't think
[21:07] Speaker 1: he was at like the year end banquet and Kenny
[21:09] Speaker 1: Dillingham reportedly like wished him the best in the future
[21:12] Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think there are a lot of
[21:15] Speaker 1: these guys who are being paid like all conference quarterbacks
[21:18] Speaker 1: because they came in with those sort of aspirations and
[21:22] Speaker 1: hopes that like this high four star, five star guy
[21:25] Speaker 1: should be competing to be you know, all big ten,
[21:28] Speaker 1: all SEC whatever. And in the case of like Aiden
[21:32] Speaker 1: Childs at Michigan State coming over with Jonathan Smith and
[21:35] Speaker 1: from the West Coast, that they're being paid on a
[21:37] Speaker 1: certain level and the production and results aren't meeting it,
[21:42] Speaker 1: and behind the scenes, the money people are like, I
[21:44] Speaker 1: don't think we want to pay this dude one point
[21:46] Speaker 1: eight million dollars. I don't think we want to pay
[21:48] Speaker 1: this dude nine hundred and twelve thousand dollars. And so
[21:51] Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying that these quarterbacks all
[21:53] Speaker 1: wanted to stay, but I think in this era there
[21:56] Speaker 1: are some like salary cap decisions that are at play here,
[22:01] Speaker 1: and so that wouldn't surprise me. Obviously, Kenny minshe is
[22:03] Speaker 1: a different case because he didn't play at Notre Dame,
[22:06] Speaker 1: but I think he is heralded as you know, potentially
[22:09] Speaker 1: valuable dude in the way that Steve Angeli showed a
[22:12] Speaker 1: good amount of flash at Syracuse early on in the season.
[22:15] Speaker 1: But yeah, I and hiss of Brandon Sorez. But he
[22:18] Speaker 1: was very good for Cincinnati a lot of the time,
[22:21] Speaker 1: and so I think he's looking to see what his
[22:23] Speaker 1: market is, perhaps at a bigger place. But all these
[22:26] Speaker 1: situations are different. But when you look at like Ryola Lagway,
[22:31] Speaker 1: it was like new coach going to like sign off
[22:34] Speaker 1: on that maybe not, maybe not. You start off and
[22:37] Speaker 1: find your own guy who fits what you want to do,
[22:39] Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better, and you didn't recruit him.
[22:42] Speaker 1: That's what's at play here to me. And I guess
[22:44] Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood would be another domino here because whoever is
[22:48] Speaker 1: the new Michigan coach is not the guy who recruited him,
[22:51] Speaker 1: and is you know, not going to be running a
[22:53] Speaker 1: system necessarily that was sold to Bryce Underwood. We'll see.
[22:58] Speaker 1: So we a lot of eight potential names out there, absolutely.
[23:01] Speaker 2: So Soresby is also exploring whether or not to go pro,
[23:04] Speaker 2: which is an.
[23:05] Speaker 1: Option for him.
[23:06] Speaker 2: But as you said, had a really really good year
[23:08] Speaker 2: that the two things that kept bouncing around in my head.
[23:11] Speaker 2: A is Royl going to go to Texas Tech and
[23:13] Speaker 2: complete them a home cycle. I could see them being
[23:18] Speaker 2: in a sort of now, despite the fact that Texas
[23:22] Speaker 2: Tech people don't like us talk about this openly. They've
[23:27] Speaker 2: got the money man there obviously willing to spend. We'll
[23:30] Speaker 2: see how it goes for him this year in the
[23:32] Speaker 2: college football playoff, but I think they have aspirations to
[23:34] Speaker 2: be more of a fixture than just a one time thing.
[23:37] Speaker 1: I did joke in like early October that DJ, I
[23:40] Speaker 1: know you did go to Texas Tech.
[23:41] Speaker 2: I know, and we're closer. We're closer, So I want
[23:44] Speaker 2: to see what Iol ends up. I'm curious to see
[23:46] Speaker 2: what the market looks like for him. Certainly there will
[23:48] Speaker 2: be plenty of suitors again, whether you think he's good
[23:51] Speaker 2: or not.
[23:52] Speaker 1: The Lagway thing. By the way, I did buy extra
[23:56] Speaker 1: storage in my Gmail inbox for all the apologies that
[23:59] Speaker 1: will come in from the brass so I do you
[24:02] Speaker 1: won't be getting like the bounce back like this inbox
[24:05] Speaker 1: is full kind of thing. I did, you know, get
[24:06] Speaker 1: out ahead of that.
[24:08] Speaker 2: The Lagway thing, I think is crushing for Florida people.
[24:12] Speaker 2: And that's not even to say that DJ Lagway was
[24:14] Speaker 2: all that good the second half of the year. There
[24:15] Speaker 2: was a lot going on there, mind you, and they
[24:17] Speaker 2: were injured and so there. It's a little bit more
[24:20] Speaker 2: nuanced than to just say DJ Lagway wasn't very good.
[24:23] Speaker 2: But there were definite games this year where it's like
[24:26] Speaker 2: this dude kind of seems like he's getting worse. He's
[24:28] Speaker 2: making some bad decisions. He had bright spots. I mean,
[24:31] Speaker 2: I still think the ceiling for him is extraordinarily high.
[24:34] Speaker 2: He might be the number one guy in the portal.
[24:36] Speaker 2: But Layne Kiffin, I'll get it all fixed. I just
[24:40] Speaker 2: remember we talked with our friend David Waters from Gator's Breakdown. Yeah,
[24:45] Speaker 2: and he painted the picture of DJ Lagway being a
[24:50] Speaker 2: Florida guy through and through, like just love the university
[24:54] Speaker 2: and it at the time we spoke, was hard for
[24:57] Speaker 2: him to come up with a situation where Lagway would
[25:00] Speaker 2: want to leave. But the vultures are out when the
[25:02] Speaker 2: coach gets fired. Clearly there is money to be spent.
[25:06] Speaker 1: And he's not local, He's not local to the state
[25:08] Speaker 1: of Florida.
[25:09] Speaker 2: Correct, yeah, correct, So long story short, he is another
[25:13] Speaker 2: name that I think is going to be supremely interesting
[25:15] Speaker 2: and there are going to be more to follow. Whether
[25:17] Speaker 2: it's Levitt where you always have a couple guys that
[25:19] Speaker 2: are unexpected, maybe Lagway rises to that level. I don't know.
[25:23] Speaker 2: For me, kind of does a little bit. I didn't
[25:25] Speaker 2: expect that he'd be jumping in the portal this quickly.
[25:28] Speaker 2: I'm curious to see who else follows suit, because we
[25:31] Speaker 2: know there will be many surprises here to follow.
[25:34] Speaker 1: And by the way, some of these guys might jump
[25:37] Speaker 1: back to their team, they might negotiate, they might have
[25:39] Speaker 1: a change of heart, they might reconnect with somebody that's
[25:43] Speaker 1: a new coach or a new coordinator or something and
[25:45] Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, maybe that place wasn't so
[25:47] Speaker 1: bad after all. I am not.
[25:49] Speaker 2: I am still not used to seeing the posts on
[25:53] Speaker 2: social media talking about players renegotiating their contracts, like Lenora's Sellars.
[26:00] Speaker 2: It was sort of a new story within the last
[26:02] Speaker 2: forty eight hours or so that Leonoris is in the
[26:04] Speaker 2: process of renegotiating his deal with South Carolina to stay put.
[26:10] Speaker 2: I've seen a couple other such posts around college football,
[26:14] Speaker 2: various players renegotiate. USC was one that held onto a
[26:17] Speaker 2: couple guys I think on defense. So new era, it
[26:21] Speaker 2: is definitely requiring us to rethink how we treat the
[26:25] Speaker 2: sport and think about the sport and talk about the sport.
[26:27] Speaker 2: But this is just where we're at, and you're right, Yeah,
[26:30] Speaker 2: you're right. It could absolutely mean that some of these
[26:32] Speaker 2: guys are coming back. Maybe they just want to test
[26:33] Speaker 2: the waters.
[26:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, look to see what their leverage is. It's entirely possible.
[26:38] Speaker 1: We saw that with what Oklahoma and one of their
[26:40] Speaker 1: prize defensive linemen last portal cycle and he decided to return,
[26:45] Speaker 1: I want to say, David Stone. So yeah, all fascinating stuff.
[26:50] Speaker 1: And the portal hasn't even technically opened yet. No, so
[26:54] Speaker 1: I want to say the portal is open longer for
[26:56] Speaker 1: players playing in the National Championship as well. They extend
[27:00] Speaker 1: and that timeline for them. So even though the portal
[27:04] Speaker 1: is like that first week or so in January, it
[27:06] Speaker 1: does extend a little bit farther out as well to
[27:10] Speaker 1: give some of those guys added time to figure out
[27:12] Speaker 1: their future. So yeah, there will continue to be big
[27:15] Speaker 1: names in especially as you know, this has been a
[27:17] Speaker 1: pretty active coaching carousel cycle. This is Tie's favorite time
[27:23] Speaker 1: for good reason. I love it.
[27:24] Speaker 2: By the way, I was looking at a bunch of
[27:27] Speaker 2: stuff just our coaching carousel game to see how many
[27:31] Speaker 2: openings there were, and we're up till like seventeen wow.
[27:36] Speaker 2: Four openings so far this year. Many of them have
[27:40] Speaker 2: been filled. Most of them have been filled. There was
[27:42] Speaker 2: one other one that we found out about and it
[27:45] Speaker 2: wasn't a huge surprise, but it was notable. Kyle Whittingham
[27:49] Speaker 2: saw that going to be stepping away at Utaw. They
[27:51] Speaker 2: of course had a coach in waiting in Morgan Scaley,
[27:54] Speaker 2: and he's going to be taken over the reins.
[27:56] Speaker 1: I saw.
[27:57] Speaker 2: Stu mandel Or, a friend from the Athletic pointed out
[27:59] Speaker 2: that Kyle Whittingham is not full on retiring. He is
[28:03] Speaker 2: willing to entertain other offers if one comes available. What
[28:07] Speaker 2: that means is anyone's guess, but he will not be
[28:11] Speaker 2: the coach at Utah next year. Kyle Whittingham steps away
[28:14] Speaker 2: after a really, really brilliant career as Utah coach. Was
[28:17] Speaker 2: very solid for a long time in Salt Lake, but
[28:20] Speaker 2: going to pass the torch now to Morgan Scalley, yes.
[28:23] Speaker 1: Who has been a long time defensive coordinator, and Kyle Whittingham.
[28:27] Speaker 1: The wording I saw was stepping down. Stepping is very
[28:29] Speaker 1: carefully worded, stepping down, not retiring. So a lot of
[28:33] Speaker 1: people will quick to point out, like, oh, the mischie
[28:35] Speaker 1: like Kyle Whittingham's not going to Michigan him. He just
[28:38] Speaker 1: does not seem like a fit at all. And I
[28:42] Speaker 1: think Kyle Whittingham will be a fit for literally every school.
[28:45] Speaker 1: But I think that would be the last thing you
[28:47] Speaker 1: would want in his position right now, when maybe he
[28:52] Speaker 1: will take some time before figure out what he's going
[28:54] Speaker 1: to do next. But uh, that seems seems hot, tie,
[28:57] Speaker 1: Isn't that the like that's a it's a place that's
[29:00] Speaker 1: hot and in a good way, in a but not
[29:01] Speaker 1: so good way. So I can't see that right now.
[29:05] Speaker 1: But yeah, we're seeing a lot of like staff movement
[29:07] Speaker 1: around the sport as well, new coaches making coordinator hires
[29:10] Speaker 1: in the coordinator shuffling game, a lot of interesting hires
[29:13] Speaker 1: all over the place. You know, Blake Baker's sticking around LSU,
[29:16] Speaker 1: will Stein's making hires at Kentucky. Same goes for Auburn.
[29:19] Speaker 1: You know, DJ Diurkins sticking around for Alex golesh Florida's
[29:22] Speaker 1: making hires, Virginia Tech's making hires, James Franklin, Matt Campbell's
[29:26] Speaker 1: making hires Penn State. So this is the actual part.
[29:30] Speaker 1: I think what Jim Knowle's going to Tennessee because Tim
[29:32] Speaker 1: Banks was let go. So I kind of love the
[29:36] Speaker 1: coordinator part of this all more than I love the
[29:38] Speaker 1: head coach, because that sort of lets my imagination run
[29:42] Speaker 1: a little bit more. I saw Jay Bateman is on
[29:46] Speaker 1: his way leaving at Texas A and m never been
[29:50] Speaker 1: a Jay Bateman guy, but no, I know that he's
[29:53] Speaker 1: He's sort of well traveled at this point. But no,
[29:57] Speaker 1: I really do. I think that there was smoke around
[29:59] Speaker 1: what Kendall Brile's at South Carolina right, but nothing is
[30:02] Speaker 1: official there, And Shane Biemer was like sort of pumping
[30:04] Speaker 1: the brakes and everybody getting over their skis. So I
[30:07] Speaker 1: do I really like all that movement to see how
[30:11] Speaker 1: how places are evaluating these guys. Dan, we got playoff games, yes,
[30:16] Speaker 1: we don't time of the week. We got four of them.
[30:22] Speaker 1: They start on Friday night.
[30:23] Speaker 2: We'll get back to you guys before long and let
[30:25] Speaker 2: you know if we're doing any kind of live watch
[30:27] Speaker 2: along situation. Yes, Friday Night, the Big One at eight
[30:31] Speaker 2: pm on ABC and ESPN, called by Chris Fowler and
[30:36] Speaker 2: Kirk kurb Street. It is the nine seed the Alabama
[30:39] Speaker 2: Crimson tied at a mark of ten and three, a
[30:42] Speaker 2: one and a half point road favorite against the eight
[30:46] Speaker 2: seed Oklahoma Sooners, who finished their year ten and two
[30:51] Speaker 2: of note. Oklahoma's won the last two meetings between these teams.
[30:55] Speaker 2: I believe, and I do need to fact check this,
[30:58] Speaker 2: so forgive me if I get this wrong. I believe
[31:01] Speaker 2: that Oklahoma would be the first team in history if
[31:04] Speaker 2: they win. Yeah, to beat Alabama three times in two seasons, Man,
[31:12] Speaker 2: that would be wild new world. Man got all sorts
[31:15] Speaker 2: of new stuff going on. Oklahoma did win the first
[31:18] Speaker 2: time that these teams played, back in week twelve, mid
[31:21] Speaker 2: November twenty three to twenty one. That game took place
[31:25] Speaker 2: in Tuscaloosa.
[31:27] Speaker 1: I went back. I rewatched it.
[31:29] Speaker 2: Wanted to get the flavor for what went down. Story
[31:32] Speaker 2: of the game was Oklahoma getting seventeen points off turnovers.
[31:36] Speaker 1: That's the thing. Even though they won this game on the.
[31:40] Speaker 2: Road, which is an impressive win. Their post game expectancy
[31:45] Speaker 2: was only five percent, which means if you run it
[31:48] Speaker 2: back through the computer, if you get it to spit
[31:51] Speaker 2: out an adjusted scoring margin, the computer says that Alabama
[31:56] Speaker 2: was twelve points better.
[31:57] Speaker 1: For whatever that's worth, tea right, because of what Oklahoma
[32:00] Speaker 1: really couldn't accomplish on offense. That's correct. If they played
[32:03] Speaker 1: this game out one hundred times, with Oklahoma accomplishing what
[32:07] Speaker 1: they could on offense and obviously what they did on defense,
[32:10] Speaker 1: the outcome ninety five out of one hundred times is
[32:13] Speaker 1: Alabama's Alabama.
[32:14] Speaker 2: That's her comfortable margin. Now, the numbers don't mean everything,
[32:17] Speaker 2: They don't mean everything. That's why they play. That's why
[32:19] Speaker 2: they play. Does hint though, that Alabama, you know, had
[32:23] Speaker 2: a little bit of bad luck Oklahoma a little bit
[32:26] Speaker 2: lucky in that first matchup. Now, that said, the counterpoint here,
[32:33] Speaker 2: Alabama's offense has not been as killer over the back
[32:36] Speaker 2: half of the schedule. No, over the back half of
[32:40] Speaker 2: the extreme back half of the schedule, throughout the month
[32:42] Speaker 2: of November to present.
[32:43] Speaker 1: They haven't looked like a playoff team since like week seven,
[32:45] Speaker 1: week eight, somewhere in there. Yeah, if you take out
[32:48] Speaker 1: that Eastern Illinois game LSU, Oklahoma, Auburn Georgia. In every case,
[32:57] Speaker 1: every case.
[32:57] Speaker 2: The offense fell short of whatever the pre game projections were.
[33:02] Speaker 2: So I bring this to you now asking this very
[33:04] Speaker 2: simple question. I said there was a little bit of
[33:08] Speaker 2: luck in that first game. How much luck was it really?
[33:13] Speaker 2: Or were teams just figuring out how to stop the
[33:16] Speaker 2: Alabama offense, which, as we've said time and again is
[33:19] Speaker 2: a very one dimensional, very dependent on ty Simpson.
[33:27] Speaker 1: I don't think it was luck because I think the
[33:28] Speaker 1: best thing in this game is the Oklahoma defense. I
[33:31] Speaker 1: think the single best unit, the single best experience in
[33:33] Speaker 1: terms of you know, football excellence or whatever, is what
[33:35] Speaker 1: Oklahoma fields on defense. That's a terribly difficult thing to
[33:40] Speaker 1: figure out and succeed against. And so while I think
[33:44] Speaker 1: the end result of Oklahoma winning that game in that
[33:47] Speaker 1: specific manner is unusual, I think when you're propelled by
[33:53] Speaker 1: a defense like that, you can't call it luck. And
[33:55] Speaker 1: even with Alabama not looking like a powerful team for
[33:59] Speaker 1: the past few weeks, even still like they move the
[34:02] Speaker 1: ball some against Oklahoma, they strung together longer scoring drives.
[34:07] Speaker 1: Ty Simpson wasn't a full on wreck in this game.
[34:10] Speaker 1: He wasn't the most you know, careful with the ball,
[34:13] Speaker 1: but he completed passes. I think it was Josh Cuavis
[34:16] Speaker 1: had like a pretty good game. They succeeded to the
[34:18] Speaker 1: tight end a good deal. I mean. The other sort
[34:21] Speaker 1: of the quieter part of the Alabama struggles is like
[34:24] Speaker 1: Ryan Williams has not been a factor in quite some time.
[34:26] Speaker 1: It's been a lot of like three for forties and
[34:29] Speaker 1: like five for twenty eight's, Like, oh, he hasn't been
[34:32] Speaker 1: a stretch of I mean, it's been a stretch of
[34:35] Speaker 1: time ten games. They've yeah, ten games since he had
[34:38] Speaker 1: more than one hundred yards receiving. And I don't even
[34:40] Speaker 1: need one hundred yards. I just need him affecting the
[34:43] Speaker 1: game in a significant way to like cause gravity from
[34:46] Speaker 1: the defense, and he hasn't done that in a minute.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Like when he does get the ball, he can be electric.
[34:51] Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's them not finding creative
[34:53] Speaker 1: ways to get him the ball, or it's the lack
[34:55] Speaker 1: of run game that opens up passing lanes, whatever it is.
[34:58] Speaker 1: The protection hasn't been consistent, that has not been a
[35:01] Speaker 1: huge factor in Alabama's season and success. And now you're
[35:04] Speaker 1: taking this offense which has struggled to be to find
[35:08] Speaker 1: consistent explosion to Norman against a killer defense with playmakers
[35:14] Speaker 1: on all three levels. And you're sort of scratching me
[35:18] Speaker 1: where I itch? What was the line from the Seinfeld
[35:21] Speaker 1: like the swirl versus the pinch? Like it's just the
[35:24] Speaker 1: move right? You're telling me that Oklahoma's defense at home
[35:28] Speaker 1: is a dog? Is that what you're trying to tell me?
[35:30] Speaker 2: Here?
[35:31] Speaker 1: Ty?
[35:32] Speaker 2: They are a one and a half point dog at
[35:34] Speaker 2: time of recording.
[35:35] Speaker 1: I just I don't like the Oklahoma offense. But if
[35:39] Speaker 1: you're telling me they're playing at home with a lot
[35:41] Speaker 1: on the line against a team that just got absolutely
[35:45] Speaker 1: demolished with no repercussions in the SEC Championship game, Alabama
[35:50] Speaker 1: does have second life. We have seen a team as
[35:52] Speaker 1: recently as last year given second life, and Ohio State
[35:56] Speaker 1: didn't play in the Big Ten Championship game last year.
[35:59] Speaker 1: But you do have this opportunity to get right, to recover,
[36:02] Speaker 1: to get healthy, to evaluate what's been going wrong. Alabama
[36:06] Speaker 1: is coached by smart dudes. No matter what Alabama fans
[36:09] Speaker 1: probably rightfully feel, I believe that somewhere in Ryan Grubb's
[36:14] Speaker 1: brain and Kaylen Devor's brain and Ty Simpson's brain, like,
[36:17] Speaker 1: I feel like there is excellence in there somewhere that
[36:21] Speaker 1: can be tapped into against Oklahoma. I'm less clear on,
[36:25] Speaker 1: but I'm not writing this Alabama offense off entirely. But
[36:28] Speaker 1: I do think situationally, I'm going with Oklahoma here at home,
[36:33] Speaker 1: with the defense, with the crowd, and it's nighttime, right,
[36:38] Speaker 1: this is Friday night, Friday night, so people taking workoff,
[36:41] Speaker 1: taking school off, worked into a frenzy holiday time. I
[36:46] Speaker 1: just think everything is pointing to the Sooners here. I
[36:49] Speaker 1: don't know, Ty, Maybe you can convince me otherwise if
[36:51] Speaker 1: you feel otherwise. How do you feel?
[36:53] Speaker 2: I don't feel strongly about this one way or another.
[36:56] Speaker 1: Oh toy, get off the fence.
[36:57] Speaker 2: I don't Why don't this is a show about honesty.
[36:59] Speaker 2: I don't feel I would not bet this game with
[37:03] Speaker 2: American dollars because I don't have a strong lean one
[37:07] Speaker 2: way or another. One incredible like eye popping stat that
[37:12] Speaker 2: I pulled out from the first matchup this year, Oklahoma
[37:16] Speaker 2: has blitzed on about twenty nine percent of opposing dropbacks.
[37:22] Speaker 2: You know what the percentage was in that first Alabama game?
[37:25] Speaker 2: How often they will sixty seven percent of the time.
[37:28] Speaker 1: Damn wow.
[37:31] Speaker 2: Two out of every three dropbacks they were coming at
[37:34] Speaker 2: ty Simpson. And in fairness, the Bama line did an
[37:37] Speaker 2: excellent job.
[37:38] Speaker 1: Against the blitz.
[37:39] Speaker 2: Despite all of that blitzing, Oklahoma still didn't get as
[37:43] Speaker 2: much pressure as you would expect. Now, they still did.
[37:46] Speaker 2: They got four sacks, They did speed up Ty Simpson,
[37:49] Speaker 2: so it was successful, but the Bama line did its part.
[37:54] Speaker 1: It just clearly was part.
[37:56] Speaker 2: Of the game plan from Brent Venables, which totally tracks
[37:58] Speaker 2: with the Venables brand of DEFA hence, and I think
[38:01] Speaker 2: it is the template for what we're going to see
[38:03] Speaker 2: in this game. I don't know they're going to blitz
[38:05] Speaker 2: as much, but they're absolutely going to attack, attack, tack
[38:10] Speaker 2: the same way they did the first game to try
[38:12] Speaker 2: and force some mistakes. And that's the biggest question for me.
[38:16] Speaker 2: To what end does Oklahoma stick to that same plan,
[38:19] Speaker 2: And if so, how does Alabama counter it right?
[38:22] Speaker 1: How do they counter it? Because they saw it once?
[38:24] Speaker 2: What can they do differently now they get themselves in
[38:27] Speaker 2: a position to score a few more points.
[38:29] Speaker 1: The math likes Bama. It does well. The math likes Bama.
[38:33] Speaker 1: If we see what Oklahoma struggles again with with what
[38:39] Speaker 1: they struggled last time with what is it about a month
[38:41] Speaker 1: ago now? Yep, November fifteenth. So the math likes Alabama
[38:46] Speaker 1: if the rhythm of the game remains identical. The rhythm
[38:48] Speaker 1: of the game is not going to be identical to me.
[38:50] Speaker 1: I don't think. I think Oklahoma wins this and here's
[38:53] Speaker 1: going to be the shocker fifty six fifty three. Hold on,
[38:56] Speaker 1: hear me out. No Oklahoma wins this. I think in
[39:01] Speaker 1: similar fashion, but not as like, not in as rare
[39:05] Speaker 1: a way. I just think it's going to be a
[39:07] Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen Sledgie game. I think it's I think sledge game.
[39:11] Speaker 1: I'm with you on that front. I think there's gonna
[39:12] Speaker 1: be some sort of like busted play that Oklahoma succeeds with.
[39:16] Speaker 1: On offense, I think Alabama should be able to move
[39:19] Speaker 1: the ball better than they were able to do against Georgia,
[39:21] Speaker 1: but not with sustained success. So I think there's going
[39:25] Speaker 1: to be some sort of crazy special teams play some
[39:27] Speaker 1: sort of crazy turnover. Once again, I just I don't
[39:30] Speaker 1: think Alabama's playing winning football. They can't run the ball,
[39:33] Speaker 1: they don't have like I like Jeremy Bernard, but they
[39:37] Speaker 1: don't have the gravity in terms of consistent receiving threats,
[39:42] Speaker 1: or they have it, but they haven't able to weaponize
[39:45] Speaker 1: it in the way that we expected them to. And
[39:49] Speaker 1: I just think there's something off that's not necessarily fixable
[39:52] Speaker 1: with a couple extra weeks. So I'm going Oklahoma, rested
[39:55] Speaker 1: at home with the defense to muck this up and
[39:58] Speaker 1: win an Oklahoma style game.
[40:01] Speaker 2: Let me present an opposing point of view, please.
[40:05] Speaker 1: You've picked against Bama many times this year.
[40:07] Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I'm sure some BAMA fans
[40:09] Speaker 2: would prefer that I not say what I'm about to say,
[40:12] Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say it anyway.
[40:13] Speaker 1: Okay, I'm out in Oklahoma.
[40:17] Speaker 2: That's fine, I'm fully out. And the defense is great,
[40:22] Speaker 2: objectively great. The offense is not that good. They can't
[40:27] Speaker 2: run the ball, they're not explosive.
[40:29] Speaker 1: The game plan, as I.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Understand it, is a big play, as you just alluded
[40:34] Speaker 2: with Isaiah Satania, a broken play in some cases to
[40:38] Speaker 2: Isaiah Satania yep or whatever Ja Materier can draw up
[40:42] Speaker 2: in the dirt.
[40:43] Speaker 1: Totally true.
[40:45] Speaker 2: That's kind of it, right, And what I kept thinking
[40:47] Speaker 2: about when I was writing this down, is it not
[40:50] Speaker 2: a weirdly Iowa type conversation with Oklahoma, Like, we know
[40:55] Speaker 2: the defense is good. It's just a matter of what
[40:58] Speaker 2: are they going to be able to squeeze out of
[40:59] Speaker 2: this offense? You know, how much blood are we going
[41:01] Speaker 2: to get from that stone?
[41:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard jokes about, you know, Alabama taking on
[41:05] Speaker 1: southern Iowa. Yeah, have you? Yeah, I wanted I don't.
[41:10] Speaker 1: I didn't think it was Spencer Hall. I think I
[41:12] Speaker 1: saw it with Spencer Hall. I did not come up
[41:14] Speaker 1: with it. I want to say Spencer did. Yeah.
[41:17] Speaker 2: So I'm just like I look at Oklahoma. They had
[41:20] Speaker 2: an outstanding season. They absolutely deserve to be here. They
[41:23] Speaker 2: absolutely deserve to be hosting this game. It's a huge,
[41:27] Speaker 2: raging success for Brent Venables. I just don't think they're
[41:31] Speaker 2: that good. And I agree, I think it's a lower
[41:33] Speaker 2: scoring game. But I got Bama winning out right twenty
[41:35] Speaker 2: one seventeen.
[41:38] Speaker 1: Okay, I'm fine with that. Oklahoma has not been a
[41:41] Speaker 1: team that has scored I think more than like twenty
[41:45] Speaker 1: twenty five points on offense this year at their best.
[41:47] Speaker 1: I know they scored thirty three against Tennessee. I want
[41:49] Speaker 1: to say, but that was I forget it was a
[41:51] Speaker 1: pick six or a scoop and score. But I get
[41:54] Speaker 1: that you're gonna need to prevent big plays and generate
[41:57] Speaker 1: big plays with some sort of consistency in games like
[42:00] Speaker 1: this and win those big moments. Bred Vennables does not
[42:03] Speaker 1: have a Kalin debor problem. To be clear, though, no
[42:05] Speaker 1: he doesn't. It's vice versa after last season and this year,
[42:08] Speaker 1: so we'll see.
[42:10] Speaker 2: And to be clear, I think whichever team wins this
[42:12] Speaker 2: game loses t Indiana in the next round. Okay, I
[42:14] Speaker 2: think so too. But one step at a time here, Yeah.
[42:18] Speaker 1: Well, Indiana's down a big what defensive lineman? Now? Yeah
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[44:31] Speaker 2: Nice Saturday night High Noon Dan on ABC. This is
[44:36] Speaker 2: a McDonough and McElroy game. This is the ten seed
[44:40] Speaker 2: Miami Hurricanes at ten and two going to Kyle Field
[44:45] Speaker 2: to square off against the seven seed Texas A and
[44:48] Speaker 2: m Aggi's. We finished the year eleven and one. A
[44:51] Speaker 2: and m is a three and a half point favorite.
[44:54] Speaker 2: They had a great season, right their first eleven and
[44:56] Speaker 2: zero starts. Since I want to say nineteen ninety two,
[45:00] Speaker 2: only ninety somewhere in that range.
[45:03] Speaker 1: They're here. They deserve to be here.
[45:05] Speaker 2: Got a little hairy from Miami at the end there. Yeah,
[45:08] Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say they're not deserving
[45:10] Speaker 2: of this.
[45:11] Speaker 1: I think they're very deserving of it. I'm happy for
[45:13] Speaker 1: my clearly a playoff caliber team, absolutely.
[45:15] Speaker 2: Or happy that they are in this game. Yeah, happy
[45:18] Speaker 2: that they're in this game. Didn't play during the regular season.
[45:20] Speaker 2: They did play back in twenty twenty three. I pulled
[45:23] Speaker 2: some stats from that game.
[45:24] Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Miami won forty eight to thirty three behind
[45:28] Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy four yards and five passing touchdowns
[45:31] Speaker 1: from well Hold on twenty twenty three? Would that have
[45:35] Speaker 1: been TVD TVD Tyler Van Dyke, Yeah, I remember that
[45:39] Speaker 1: game that was that was an early game or the
[45:40] Speaker 1: first game or something like that that was looked at
[45:43] Speaker 1: as like, okay, Mario Christaballs figured out offense with Miami
[45:46] Speaker 1: and everything like that, and then less so. But I
[45:49] Speaker 1: remember that being a high point for hopes for the
[45:52] Speaker 1: Miami offensive future for sure.
[45:54] Speaker 2: I was also Jimbo's final season with Texas A and
[45:57] Speaker 2: m I remember. Yeah, these two teams did not play
[46:01] Speaker 2: this year, but they did have a common opponent, my
[46:03] Speaker 2: notre name fighting Irish. Miami won a week one, twenty
[46:07] Speaker 2: seven to twenty four A and one a few weeks
[46:09] Speaker 2: later forty one to forty in South Bend. So all
[46:14] Speaker 2: that context, Dan, I think this is going to be
[46:17] Speaker 2: a very close, a very physical football game. How do
[46:22] Speaker 2: you see this one going down?
[46:24] Speaker 1: So I think there's a couple of different ways to
[46:27] Speaker 1: underthink each of these teams really, where it's like, what
[46:30] Speaker 1: version of Texas A and M either half to half?
[46:33] Speaker 1: What version of Marcel Reed do we get? Texas A
[46:37] Speaker 1: and M has been off? You talk about how Alabama's
[46:39] Speaker 1: been off, Texas A and M has been off, you know,
[46:42] Speaker 1: going back to the South Carolina game, obviously the Texas game,
[46:45] Speaker 1: they haven't been their full selves on either side of
[46:48] Speaker 1: the ball. Really in a little bit, I kind of
[46:51] Speaker 1: think we know Miami for better or worse. I agree
[46:54] Speaker 1: with that in a more secure way than we do
[46:59] Speaker 1: about Texas A and M. And to me, if you're
[47:02] Speaker 1: gonna underthink Miami, it's defense is probably gonna do a
[47:06] Speaker 1: lot of great things, Like they just harass people up front.
[47:09] Speaker 1: The linebackers have been strong, the secondary has been more
[47:13] Speaker 1: together than it was last year, been making a lot
[47:15] Speaker 1: more plays. Now there's the penalty issues on both sides
[47:18] Speaker 1: of the ball for Miami, but obviously the Miami defense
[47:21] Speaker 1: is ahead of the Miami offense, which is still quite good,
[47:24] Speaker 1: just not where it was last season. But to me,
[47:26] Speaker 1: if you're gonna underthink Miami, it's just how many hijinks
[47:30] Speaker 1: does Malachi Tony get up to against Texas A and
[47:33] Speaker 1: M because he is their clear huge play threat now
[47:36] Speaker 1: that they don't have other guys who can. Like the
[47:38] Speaker 1: emergence of Gerard Pringle in the backfield, I think has
[47:41] Speaker 1: been a very positive thing. I think he has been
[47:43] Speaker 1: better and more explosive than the other two backs, was
[47:45] Speaker 1: it Marty Brown and Mark Fletcher? And like what version
[47:50] Speaker 1: of Carson Beck do we get? Obviously he's turnover prone
[47:54] Speaker 1: occasionally in a disastrous way. But I kind of like
[47:58] Speaker 1: this for Miami that it's an early start, though obviously
[48:00] Speaker 1: people are going to be hyped in out of their
[48:02] Speaker 1: minds for a playoff game at Kyle Field. I like
[48:05] Speaker 1: it that it's, you know, at noon Eastern instead of
[48:08] Speaker 1: six thirty, seven thirty whatever Eastern. There is something more
[48:13] Speaker 1: dependable about Miami, But I think there is something more
[48:19] Speaker 1: explosive about Texas A and m on both sides of
[48:22] Speaker 1: the ball. Explosive, Yeah, I think there's something more explosive
[48:25] Speaker 1: about the speed and consistency at receiver of Texas, A
[48:28] Speaker 1: and M. The best of Marcel Reed is more interesting
[48:30] Speaker 1: because of what he can do with his feet than
[48:31] Speaker 1: what Carson Beck can do. The pass rush on both
[48:34] Speaker 1: sides of the ball is I mean, the pass rush
[48:35] Speaker 1: for Miami, the pass rush for Texas A and M
[48:37] Speaker 1: both elite and incredible. I don't trust the A and
[48:40] Speaker 1: M secondary that much. I just they've given up a bunch.
[48:44] Speaker 1: The corners are fine, but not amazing. I think I'm
[48:50] Speaker 1: gonna go with Miami here and I hate it. I
[48:55] Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with Miami on the road because
[48:59] Speaker 1: there is some thing about the steady nature of Carson
[49:03] Speaker 1: Beck most of the time, the age, the experience, the
[49:07] Speaker 1: experience in big games, where like I just maybe I
[49:11] Speaker 1: just can't shake Marcel read in that second half against Texas,
[49:14] Speaker 1: and that was on the road. But there is something
[49:16] Speaker 1: about Carson Beck. There is something about this Miami defense
[49:20] Speaker 1: that again A and M has had an at times
[49:23] Speaker 1: incredibly elite defense. There's something that I am more familiar
[49:29] Speaker 1: with with Miami. I don't like Mario christ Baul in
[49:32] Speaker 1: big games. I just I have a better concept for
[49:36] Speaker 1: Miami right now. And so I'm leaning that direction. Does
[49:40] Speaker 1: that make sense? It makes total sense. I went back
[49:43] Speaker 1: and forth, and that is another game I wavered on. Yeah.
[49:46] Speaker 2: Kate came downstairs this morning. I was pacing in the
[49:49] Speaker 2: living room. She's like, what's wrong with you? What's going
[49:51] Speaker 2: on here? I'm like, A, Yeah, Texas and M. Miami
[49:53] Speaker 2: has just sort.
[49:54] Speaker 1: Of waved her hand at me and walked away.
[49:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Like, I have a big question
[50:01] Speaker 2: for each side of this, and I think an X
[50:04] Speaker 2: factor to pay attention to. A and M's been very
[50:09] Speaker 2: very good along both lines. Same is true for Miami.
[50:12] Speaker 2: I mean, both these teams are very very good upfront,
[50:15] Speaker 2: but there are a couple interesting differences here.
[50:17] Speaker 1: A and M's been able to do most of their.
[50:23] Speaker 2: I guess uh pressure generation for lack of better terms,
[50:26] Speaker 2: without blitzing.
[50:27] Speaker 1: That was the name of my tag team, by the way,
[50:29] Speaker 1: in high school, I was one half of the Pressure Generation.
[50:33] Speaker 2: Miami is one of the blitz heaviest teams in college
[50:37] Speaker 2: football right now. And so what I wonder from the
[50:40] Speaker 2: A and M side, what I wonder from the Miami side. Frankly,
[50:44] Speaker 2: when you blitz a guy like Barcel Reed, you got
[50:46] Speaker 2: to worry about his legs totally. He scrambles about twelve
[50:50] Speaker 2: percent of the time. Miami's a little bit more zone
[50:53] Speaker 2: heavy thanre not gonna have their backs to him. They're
[50:54] Speaker 2: going to see them, They're going to spy him. But
[50:57] Speaker 2: I think it's fair to point out that they haven't
[50:58] Speaker 2: played a whole lot of guys like Mars Read. You know,
[51:01] Speaker 2: they were fine against Tommy Castellanos, lost to Kevin Jennings
[51:05] Speaker 2: on the road. Marcel Read, I mean, Marcel reads better
[51:08] Speaker 2: than both those guys are. And so my question is,
[51:11] Speaker 2: what's Miami's plan to stop him?
[51:13] Speaker 1: They played what they played Byron Brown.
[51:15] Speaker 2: He can move, but us friends USF was not exactly
[51:19] Speaker 2: the same caliber of opponent.
[51:21] Speaker 1: But I'm saying the danger that he can provide an
[51:25] Speaker 1: offense is very clear. They handled him quite well.
[51:30] Speaker 2: Okay, they blew them out. So if you want to
[51:32] Speaker 2: tack him onto this conversation or not, that's that's up
[51:35] Speaker 2: to you. But I'm just saying the athletic nature, the
[51:37] Speaker 2: athletic nature for sure. So what's Miami's plan to stop
[51:40] Speaker 2: Marcel Reid and what does that look like? Do they
[51:44] Speaker 2: still bring the blitz with such regularity? Do they change
[51:48] Speaker 2: up what their plan is, I don't know, but that
[51:50] Speaker 2: I'm very interested in seeing what that part of it
[51:52] Speaker 2: looks like. My biggest question is something you alluded to
[51:55] Speaker 2: with A and M, and that's big plays. So like
[51:59] Speaker 2: on the end side, you get a mobile guy like
[52:02] Speaker 2: Marcel Reid. He can dance around back there. His receivers,
[52:06] Speaker 2: many of whom are averaging over ten yards per catch,
[52:10] Speaker 2: give them time to find holes in the zone.
[52:14] Speaker 1: Who knows what happens.
[52:15] Speaker 2: Right, This isn't a Miami defense that's prone to big plays, no,
[52:19] Speaker 2: but it is an A and M offense that is
[52:21] Speaker 2: top twenty in the nation at creating plays with twenty
[52:24] Speaker 2: yards or more. So there's an interesting push pull that
[52:28] Speaker 2: I think is going to go on on that side
[52:29] Speaker 2: of the ball. A and M's gonna need to pop
[52:31] Speaker 2: a few of those if they want to win, because
[52:33] Speaker 2: I don't think you can get into a pickle ball
[52:34] Speaker 2: game with Miami and win. It's a pickleball match, sir, whatever.
[52:39] Speaker 2: Don't don't put down pickleball.
[52:42] Speaker 1: But here's the reason I get the big plays.
[52:46] Speaker 2: Even though Miami has one of the least explosive offenses
[52:50] Speaker 2: in the country per Bill Connelly in the sp Plus
[52:54] Speaker 2: AM's giving up a ton of big plays this year.
[52:56] Speaker 2: They have going to a ton of big plays this year.
[53:00] Speaker 2: Because Miami hasn't generated a ton of explosives does not
[53:03] Speaker 2: mean that they don't have the playmakers to do it.
[53:06] Speaker 2: And I think they do it. You mentioned Malakai Toni.
[53:09] Speaker 2: Malachai Toni dropped exactly zero balls this year as a
[53:12] Speaker 2: true freshman.
[53:13] Speaker 1: Is that true?
[53:15] Speaker 2: Zero point zero percent drop rate this season?
[53:17] Speaker 1: Damn? Which is nuts for a true freshman. He is awesome.
[53:24] Speaker 2: And so I just wonder, like, if A and M
[53:26] Speaker 2: can't get pressure on Carson Beck, there's a very big
[53:29] Speaker 2: risk of a veteran quarterback picking them apart, hitting guys
[53:33] Speaker 2: like Tony. And they got three receivers. Three receivers, well,
[53:36] Speaker 2: they do and they don't.
[53:37] Speaker 1: Didn't they target Malachay Tony twice as many times as
[53:40] Speaker 1: the next guy. They did?
[53:41] Speaker 2: They did, But they got three guys that I look
[53:43] Speaker 2: at and I say, any one of the three can
[53:46] Speaker 2: create a big play if Carson Beck has a moment.
[53:50] Speaker 2: So that to me is the biggest question they on
[53:52] Speaker 2: the A and M side, are they going to be
[53:54] Speaker 2: able to get pressure on Beck? And even though Miami
[53:58] Speaker 2: hasn't generated a ton of explosives. Will they be able
[54:01] Speaker 2: to stop them? Because I do believe they have the playmakers.
[54:03] Speaker 2: The X factor, though, is a Miami offensive line. And
[54:07] Speaker 2: here's why I say that, across the board, one of
[54:11] Speaker 2: the most penalized in college football. This has been a
[54:15] Speaker 2: talking point among the Miami fan base all year. And
[54:17] Speaker 2: I know because I read State of the U I
[54:19] Speaker 2: lork on message boards.
[54:21] Speaker 1: Right, You and I both come underwood. Yeah, we both
[54:23] Speaker 1: do the same kind of thing.
[54:24] Speaker 2: This is exactly the type of game where the false
[54:26] Speaker 2: starts and a few penalties here and there come back
[54:29] Speaker 2: to bite you if you're Miami, because a false start
[54:31] Speaker 2: on like second and eight leads to a third and
[54:34] Speaker 2: six leads to a situation that is very favorable for
[54:38] Speaker 2: the A and M defense, which is the best third
[54:40] Speaker 2: down defense.
[54:40] Speaker 1: In America right now.
[54:41] Speaker 2: Great, So Kyle Field is going to be loud, It's
[54:43] Speaker 2: going to be proud. It's just something to be aware
[54:45] Speaker 2: of here, one of those things that could come back
[54:48] Speaker 2: to bite Miami if things start going south. I think
[54:51] Speaker 2: this is more of a shootout. I do think it's tough.
[54:54] Speaker 2: I do think it's close. I do think it's physical.
[54:57] Speaker 2: But I think this is the best first round matchup
[54:59] Speaker 2: that we're going to get this weekend, and I've got
[55:00] Speaker 2: Miami winning outright. I've got it at thirty eight thirty five.
[55:04] Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a freaking awesome
[55:06] Speaker 2: football game.
[55:08] Speaker 1: So the biggest pause I have in this game is
[55:11] Speaker 1: if we enter into a situation which this is back
[55:13] Speaker 1: and forth in the fourth quarter, exchanging puns, exchanging field goals,
[55:16] Speaker 1: something like that. I got to mash Mike Elco here, right,
[55:20] Speaker 1: I'm mashing the Mike Elko button. I cannot get on
[55:24] Speaker 1: board with Mario Crista ball. If it's tight in the
[55:25] Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I have it as twenty eight to twenty
[55:29] Speaker 1: Miami winning and it not being necessarily back and forth competitive,
[55:35] Speaker 1: but not like a chess match. That's where I would struggle.
[55:39] Speaker 1: If leads are being exchanged in that fourth quarter and
[55:43] Speaker 1: it's looking like it might be an overtime game, that's
[55:46] Speaker 1: when you know the ESPN like win probability graph, my
[55:50] Speaker 1: crystal ball trust probability is going to be all over
[55:54] Speaker 1: the place. It's going to look like the nineteen eighties.
[55:57] Speaker 1: It's going to look like the nineteen twenties, right, It's
[55:59] Speaker 1: going to look like those mar crafts. I'm going Miami
[56:03] Speaker 1: to win with that asterisk. I think they can only
[56:06] Speaker 1: win in one way, and that is controlling this one
[56:10] Speaker 1: for the majority of it. So I'm going Miami here
[56:12] Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty three point thirty on TNT.
[56:15] Speaker 2: It is the eleven seed two Lane the Green Wave
[56:18] Speaker 2: eleven and two this year won the American going to
[56:22] Speaker 2: Oxford taking on the sixth seeded ole Miss Rebels who
[56:27] Speaker 2: finished eleven and one. They are a seventeen and one
[56:30] Speaker 2: half point favorite. It's gonna be Joe Tess and Jesse
[56:34] Speaker 2: Palmer on the call again this game on TNT. Yeah,
[56:38] Speaker 2: they played earlier this year. Ole Miss won forty five
[56:42] Speaker 2: to ten. They had a two hundred and sixty six
[56:45] Speaker 2: yard edge. It was never close. This was never a
[56:48] Speaker 2: close game. Two big storylines coming into this one. One
[56:53] Speaker 2: is broad and national and I know you've got a
[56:55] Speaker 2: lot to say, so I'm going to tee you up here.
[56:57] Speaker 1: And then the other is the Lank Kiffin thing. Oh
[57:01] Speaker 1: I thought the Lake kiffn was talking about that. That's
[57:03] Speaker 1: a different directions start. Everyone's talking about Lane. Yeah. Yeah.
[57:08] Speaker 2: There is a chorus right now of commentary dunking on
[57:12] Speaker 2: the idea that Tulane and James Madison should be in
[57:14] Speaker 2: the playoffs at all.
[57:15] Speaker 1: I think less about Tulane and more about James Madison
[57:19] Speaker 1: because they're the clear second team in from the G
[57:22] Speaker 1: five G six ranks.
[57:23] Speaker 2: But yes, there is a chorus, right whichever one I mean,
[57:26] Speaker 2: whether you're more against Tulane or more against James Madison,
[57:31] Speaker 2: the mere fact that there are.
[57:32] Speaker 1: Two G five schools in this Yeah. I don't know
[57:35] Speaker 1: if a memo went out.
[57:37] Speaker 2: I didn't see a bat signal in my night sky,
[57:39] Speaker 2: but somebody got, like everybody got the message at once,
[57:43] Speaker 2: right that this was a take that everybody needed to have.
[57:48] Speaker 2: I feel we are uniquely qualified to talk about this
[57:50] Speaker 2: because your alma mater is playing one of them, and
[57:53] Speaker 2: my team got squeezed out at least in part because
[57:56] Speaker 2: of these teams.
[57:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, what's what says little guy more than Oregon and
[58:00] Speaker 1: Notre Dame. What says more than like legendary iconic program
[58:06] Speaker 1: like Notre Dame and most notorious booster behind the scenes
[58:10] Speaker 1: like Oregon's Phil Night. Yeah, Yeah, we're the ones that
[58:12] Speaker 1: are qualified to talk about the underdogs of this all. Yeah,
[58:16] Speaker 1: now I know what you're saying, because Oregon does play
[58:18] Speaker 1: James Madison. No, the messaging is out and it's weird, like,
[58:22] Speaker 1: you know, obviously not going to be surprised by like
[58:23] Speaker 1: the network on which this messaging occurs and the people
[58:26] Speaker 1: behind this messaging, Like, you know, this is the bread
[58:29] Speaker 1: and butter for a lot of these people to say
[58:31] Speaker 1: things like this and to say that there's like some
[58:34] Speaker 1: more like broad societal reason why smaller schools are in
[58:38] Speaker 1: the college football playoff. It's all nonsense. Obviously, of course
[58:42] Speaker 1: you already know that. But we've all sort of agreed
[58:46] Speaker 1: that there are never going to be twelve teams that
[58:49] Speaker 1: can legitimately compete for the national championship, right, We've all
[58:53] Speaker 1: sort of like, for a long time there were no
[58:56] Speaker 1: national championships and two teams which were like, oh yeah,
[58:58] Speaker 1: that makes sense. These are like the showdown at the
[59:00] Speaker 1: end of it, all USC Texas blah blah blah, and
[59:03] Speaker 1: then like four teams like well it's you know, the
[59:05] Speaker 1: talent is more spread, and like we have all these
[59:07] Speaker 1: you know, SEC teams or Big ten teams or Texas whoever,
[59:11] Speaker 1: that we should expand it and make four teams. And
[59:13] Speaker 1: then now we sort of all agree that we're expanding it.
[59:16] Speaker 1: To just like have more football and see more high
[59:19] Speaker 1: quality teams play. And you know, all these other sports
[59:21] Speaker 1: have bigger playoffs, why not college football? But like there
[59:24] Speaker 1: is an understanding that like we are not looking at
[59:27] Speaker 1: number nine, ten, eleven, fourteen, whatever and saying like if
[59:31] Speaker 1: things break right, no, probably not. That's I think that's true.
[59:35] Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
[59:36] Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't really the case last year, But
[59:40] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[59:41] Speaker 1: But in any year, I don't think Miami a number
[59:43] Speaker 1: eleven team. I think Miami's good enough to win it all. Maybe.
[59:47] Speaker 1: I mean last time they went to the State of Texas,
[59:50] Speaker 1: they weren't, right.
[59:51] Speaker 2: I think you could make a realistic case for Miami.
[59:54] Speaker 1: Sure. I think you can make a realistic case for.
[59:56] Speaker 2: A number of teams outside the top four this year, especially,
[1:00:00] Speaker 2: I mean Indiana seems like they're the juggernaut, right, and
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: I guess we have questions now about Ohio State. But
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: like otherwise, I think there are a lot of teams
[1:00:11] Speaker 2: filling out this field. Maybe not so much TU Lane
[1:00:14] Speaker 2: or JMU, which is more to the point here, right,
[1:00:17] Speaker 2: But I think you can make a strong case for
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: some of those teams outside the top four.
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they have championship elements. Sure, I think
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: Miami has a championship caliber defense. I don't know if
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: they have a championship caliber offense and coaching staff. That's
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: the problem you get into. I think when you start
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: going down like they have really good starters, but what
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: are their twos and threes look like this part of
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: the season, when you're dealing with attrition and depth issues, right,
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: that I think is what separates the teams that are
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: in earnest competing and like have elements that could compete.
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Whatever. I just think when you get
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: down to eleven and twelve, like you're taking however many
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: G five, G six teams and they're basically fighting for
[1:00:53] Speaker 1: table scraps, right, They're fighting for in normal years one spot,
[1:00:58] Speaker 1: seventy teams, one spot right from the Mountain West, the
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: Sun Belt Conference, USA, the American whatever, and so usually
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: it's gonna be one spot. Why is it two spots?
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe this. It's probably Dabosweeney's fault. It's
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: probably like a member of your country club, it's his
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: fault that he couldn't build a Clemson defense to keep
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: Duke under forty five points. And we're not having this conversation.
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: But nobody assigns blame there, right, nobody assigns blame to
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: schools that are in the gilded conferences because that sort
[1:01:25] Speaker 1: of defeats the purpose because it's so much more difficult
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: tie to win the SEC or the Big Ten or
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: the Big twelve, blah blah blah. And these schools are
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: just like doing their best, which, by the way, these
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: schools and not even just like Tulane and James Madison,
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: all of these schools, the excellent schools in the American
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: or the Sun Belt or whatever, they with regularity lose
[1:01:45] Speaker 1: their coaches all of their time. If they're good, they
[1:01:48] Speaker 1: lose all of their best players. And they're told like
[1:01:51] Speaker 1: that's just the way of the world. They have a
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: fraction of the money to deal with because they're a
[1:01:56] Speaker 1: smaller program and they can't get into a bigger conference.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: And yet they win ten to eleven games with different coaches,
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: and they build infrastructure, and they figure out ways to
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: recruit and develop and even find guys to transfer in there.
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: And yet we're looking at them as like you haven't
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: earned this, you haven't gone through this, like brutal schedule
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: and so we must put in like Kentucky, ass Texas
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: or something to make this a legitimate tournament, or something
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: like Notre Dame, who's like throwing a hissy fit and
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: won't even play in the postseason because we have James
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: Madison instead of Notre Dame. Like, just there is something
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: about that that you can just like you can miss
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: me with that that apparently like all of these great
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: coaches on the G five, G six level are totally
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: okay to go to Auburn and Florida and Uclair or whatever,
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: but like they didn't earn it at the same time.
[1:02:43] Speaker 1: I just I get why people are making this argument.
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: I just don't know why there are so many like
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: dweeds out there simping for like the SEC, Like, you
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: don't need to do this to yourself. You don't need
[1:02:54] Speaker 1: to debase yourself for Greg Sankee. You just don't. You
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: can just live your life and enjoy football and enjoy
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: like variety for once. We need to watch more Texas
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: against Texas A and M. We need to watch more
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: of this. No, the SEC has five of the ten
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: Power Conference teams in there. Give me a percentage tie
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: fifty fifty percent. People aren't happy people are not happy
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: with fifty percent of the Power Conference teams. I just
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: I think people are punching down because they need to,
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: Like they feel victimized constantly. And there's a lot like
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: worldview at play here that we don't need to get into.
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: But like there is a country club thing where it's like,
[1:03:30] Speaker 1: how dare we let James who's gonna watch James Madison,
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: who's gonna watch? To like just enjoy it. It's football.
[1:03:37] Speaker 1: We're getting more football. And if it's a blow out,
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: it's a blow out. If it's competitive, it's competitive. Like
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: it's okay to like get Korean barbecue once in a while.
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: It just is it's okay to enjoy like the spice
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: of life, or get Korean barbecue every other night. I
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: don't care. But like this idea that like how can
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: you have a playoff with no Texas or actually Vanderbilt,
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: I'd like to watch Vanderbilt would be fun for me
[1:04:00] Speaker 1: to watch in this playoff. Well, Like, I just I
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: don't understand why people are like bending over backwards to
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: like make fun of JMU and Tulane when it is
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: the ACC's fault, it is a Power conference's fault that
[1:04:12] Speaker 1: we're in this situation, and I just I don't know.
[1:04:17] Speaker 1: It bugs me that we have to have this conversation
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: every year when like they're good teams, maybe not as tested,
[1:04:24] Speaker 1: but like Texas, a third of Texas's wins are against
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: G five G six teams, a third of them tie,
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: and we're having this conversation. I just I don't know.
[1:04:35] Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good faith argument. I don't
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: think so either.
[1:04:37] Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good faith argument because, like
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: most takes, none of these are fully baked. If you
[1:04:44] Speaker 2: believe that Tulane and Jmu and whoever else should be excluded,
[1:04:49] Speaker 2: then you also need to present to me an actual plan,
[1:04:54] Speaker 2: a rational way, so that we don't have one hundred
[1:04:57] Speaker 2: and thirty six teams that are playing under the same umbrella,
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: that being FBS. I have not seen any of the
[1:05:04] Speaker 2: takesmen out there present a rational plan for something that
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: lives between the FBS and the FCS. I haven't seen it.
[1:05:12] Speaker 2: If it's out there, i'd send it to me. Soliverbal
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: A Gmail, I haven't seen it. Nobody has sent that
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: to me yet. I would like to see more about that.
[1:05:20] Speaker 2: A plan, Sure, give me a plan, not a take.
[1:05:23] Speaker 2: Give me a plan. Yeah, I'll really do a plan.
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: But until I actually see a plan, the.
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: Plan is all about excluding teams just to be I
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: just think I think that's ridiculous. And again i'm speaking,
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: I know Notre Dame is not.
[1:05:34] Speaker 2: The little guy, okay, And I'm not necessarily a fan
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: of what's been going on here over the last week,
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: not endorsing any of that.
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: Again, diego Pavia, ring of honor ring, but.
[1:05:47] Speaker 2: Either we've got a system that we all agreed to
[1:05:49] Speaker 2: or we don't.
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: They all agreed to this, and.
[1:05:52] Speaker 2: Whether it's the ACC's fault or the Conference Commissioner's fault
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: or the cfp's fault, this is what they are too.
[1:06:00] Speaker 2: And it's one year, so I don't have a problem
[1:06:03] Speaker 2: with it.
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: And I'm with you.
[1:06:04] Speaker 2: I tend to think variety is the spice of lif
[1:06:06] Speaker 2: Let's see what they can do. And we're going to
[1:06:08] Speaker 2: talk about that here in just a second. Furthermore to
[1:06:10] Speaker 2: your point on Texas, if teams like Tulane and JMU,
[1:06:15] Speaker 2: if they're so lowly, yeah, if there's so much less then, if.
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: Their path is so much less impressive, yeah.
[1:06:22] Speaker 2: If there's so much less then and if it isn't fair.
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: Power five teams should not be able to count those wins.
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: I agree, they shouldn't be able to count them. I
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: haven't heard that take.
[1:06:34] Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the takes and the plans, and I'm
[1:06:37] Speaker 2: waiting for the fully fleshed out idea here to back
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: up all of these claims.
[1:06:41] Speaker 1: I haven't heard it. I don't know. If they're not
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: playing playoff worthy conferences, they shouldn't count as playoff worthy wins.
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: Where you agree where yet I didn't hear it. It
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: gets quieter, which, by the way, like what constitutes a
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: power four team, it just changes that the whims of
[1:07:00] Speaker 1: like three guys, Stanford's a Power four team, Well, they
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: were a Power conference team before. What I'm saying is
[1:07:06] Speaker 1: like Cincinnati was until it was decided they weren't, and
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: then it was decided they were again, And like Louisville
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: wasn't but then they were, and then they weren't again,
[1:07:17] Speaker 1: and then they were again. Like the Power four is
[1:07:22] Speaker 1: happy not only to eat the G six, they're happy
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: to eat their own. The PAC twelve does not exist
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: in any sort of meaningful similar way to where it
[1:07:30] Speaker 1: was before. Right like the SEC tried its best to
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: kill the Big twelve, and so I just think people are, like,
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: I think they're very shortsighted that if they're trying to
[1:07:43] Speaker 1: like give as few teams oxygen as possible, and they
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: think that's gonna be good for the sport, it's gonna
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: sort of take away football fans from the like we're
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: trying to make college football really exciting as a business.
[1:07:58] Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a brain dead take,
[1:08:00] Speaker 2: is what I think. Yeah, and I understand, Listen, you
[1:08:03] Speaker 2: have your right to believe it if that's how you feel.
[1:08:05] Speaker 2: I don't feel that way. I think it's a brain
[1:08:07] Speaker 2: dead take personally.
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: I mean, it really does come back to, like, well,
[1:08:11] Speaker 1: who's going to want to watch James Madison? Like, that's
[1:08:13] Speaker 1: not my problem. It's just not my problem.
[1:08:16] Speaker 2: Look at the bull ratings last year, Dan, the bulls
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: don't mean anything. They literally mean nothing. I mean my
[1:08:22] Speaker 2: previous years. Did you look at ESPN's ratings last year
[1:08:25] Speaker 2: for Bowl Week? They were way the hell up, way up.
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: And those games don't mean a lick of course. So
[1:08:30] Speaker 2: don't tell me no one's gonna watch I'm sure relative
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: to like Alabama, Oklahoma or Miami Texas a and m
[1:08:38] Speaker 2: the ratings for Oregon JMU or this game that we're
[1:08:41] Speaker 2: going to talk about here too, lene O, Miss, I'm
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: sure comparatively speaking they will be lower.
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: I do not care. I do not live in the
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: world of ratings.
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: I also do not live in the world where whatever
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: Vegas says is the point spread should be taken as gospel.
[1:08:56] Speaker 1: It is a data point.
[1:08:58] Speaker 2: It does not mean that I can have fun watching
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: a game if one team is favored by seventeen and
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: a half points.
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: It's for people that are proficient in excel, is what
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: you're saying, all right, It's it really like the country
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: club of it all never becomes more obvious around now
[1:09:17] Speaker 1: when they're like, well, they don't deserve to be in
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: here with us. They haven't earned their way into these
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: pearly gates.
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: I've heard so many people with this take, and it
[1:09:28] Speaker 2: drives me crazy. And it's not about the people who
[1:09:30] Speaker 2: have the take. It's about the idea.
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: He's wearing a Costco Polo shirt tie. He can't be
[1:09:37] Speaker 1: in our country club invitation. By the way, Kirkland Signature
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: not a sponsor. Make a hell of a polo a
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: hell of a winner jacket? Have you gone full Kirkla
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: now that you're living the dead my whole I'm wearing.
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: I'm wearing an SEC shirt right now. To be clear,
[1:09:50] Speaker 1: Frank Thomas playing for Auburn. Yeah, you're watching on YouTube
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: dot com Slash Solidary hurt Yeah, big her of course, Alzheimer.
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: But the full war Drobe is not Kirkland signature, but
[1:10:01] Speaker 1: it can be for a price. We all have our price, Kirklets.
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Man. I don't think I have a
[1:10:07] Speaker 1: price for the SEC. But otherwise, yeah, one of my
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: winter jackets. It's great.
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: Very story line for this game is Lane Kiffin. Okay,
[1:10:19] Speaker 2: back to the game. Lane Kiffin up and left. Ole
[1:10:23] Speaker 2: Miss has a home game. Maybe they'll go on a
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: playoff run.
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:10:26] Speaker 2: The coordinators are still there, so Pete Golding was elevated
[1:10:30] Speaker 2: from defensive coordinator to full time head coach. Charlie Weis
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: Junior is going to be going with Lane Kiffin. L
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: see you, but he came back. He's going to be
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: coaching the rest of the way here for the ReBs.
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: How much of a factor do you think that plays?
[1:10:45] Speaker 1: No Lane A good amount. Lane Kiffin is a very
[1:10:50] Speaker 1: aggressive in game manager with regard to fourth downs and
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: how he calls the game. Not to say, Charlie weis junior,
[1:10:57] Speaker 1: isn't a big part of the game planning and big
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: part of those in game decision and doesn't have access
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: to the same metrics lane Kiffin has access to, and
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: you know, the same analytics cards whatever, or probability cards,
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: whatever they are. But it does feel very much like
[1:11:10] Speaker 1: Ole miss these past few years has been very reflective
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: of Lane Kiffin's personality and appetite for aggression. So without
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: Lane there, I just don't know that we're seeing this
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: team coached with the same degree of confidence that Also
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: Pete Golding has been dealing with becoming a first time
[1:11:32] Speaker 1: SEC head coach on the fly. Can I say something
[1:11:35] Speaker 1: about that, please, At the risk of making myself sound
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: like an idiot and people out there clowning, We're far
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: too late for that, the two of them. We're far
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: too late for that. Yeah.
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: Did you happen to see Pete Golding's like opening message
[1:11:51] Speaker 2: to his team when they first announced that he was
[1:11:53] Speaker 2: going to be the head coach? He did, like, you know,
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: the team meeting. You stood there before the team and
[1:11:58] Speaker 2: kind of gave a few remarks so you happen to see.
[1:12:00] Speaker 1: That I did.
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: I was detecting zero swagger.
[1:12:08] Speaker 1: That's what I got a lot of my first dates
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: in New York. Same. Absolutely.
[1:12:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying that that's going to have a
[1:12:15] Speaker 2: huge impact in this game. I think that's going a
[1:12:17] Speaker 2: little too far afield, but moving forward, I.
[1:12:21] Speaker 1: Just something to be mindful of.
[1:12:23] Speaker 2: And it was just it was a few minutes worth,
[1:12:26] Speaker 2: And that's probably being tremendously unfair to Peak Golding, who's
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: done a good job and you know, as much as
[1:12:33] Speaker 2: you can earn that job. So I'm not but I'm
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: just watching this and I'm thinking, I don't know how
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: this is going to play long term.
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: It didn't do it for me. I'm not a player.
[1:12:46] Speaker 2: He's obviously been very good at what he does. But anyway,
[1:12:50] Speaker 2: I'll put that inside.
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: He's got to beat a team Ole Miss was already
[1:12:54] Speaker 1: thirty five points better than so he has to be
[1:13:00] Speaker 1: decent to win this game. He has to just kind
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: of not screw it. I don't even think he needs
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: to be decent, like they have to be one point
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: better than Tulane, who doesn't do I mean, we haven't
[1:13:11] Speaker 1: really talked about the matchup itself, but obviously ole Miss
[1:13:13] Speaker 1: has thrown the ball super well. With Trinidad Chambliss, he won,
[1:13:16] Speaker 1: Lacey has had some huge games on the ground. They've
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: shown a ton of balance on offense. You can run
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: the ball a little bit on ole Miss, but the
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: defense did improve over the course of the season, and
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: I just don't think Tulane does anything specifically well enough.
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: They overwhelmed North Texas upfront with their own pass rush,
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: and that game was like a weird back and forth
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: with weird calls. I just think, if you are going
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: to pull an upset like this, even if they hadn't played,
[1:13:39] Speaker 1: I would love to know what or I'd love to
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: feel confident in a specific thing that Tulane will rally
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: behind to win this game and they can throw the ball.
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: Some running has been a challenge. Defense has been sort
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: of all over the place up and down this year.
[1:13:52] Speaker 1: They finished the season strong, but I just think there's
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: too much speed, there's too much talent on ole Miss,
[1:13:58] Speaker 1: and I think they win this game a couple touchdowns.
[1:14:00] Speaker 2: I said this a few weeks ago. Tulane's offense looks
[1:14:03] Speaker 2: a lot to me like the Aaron Roderick offense at
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: Byu where it's not really yeah, it's not really one thing.
[1:14:11] Speaker 2: It's just sort of whatever it needs to be to win,
[1:14:14] Speaker 2: which I'm not necessarily against.
[1:14:16] Speaker 1: And also they're losing their coach to be Claire and
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: they lose their coach.
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: But like I'm not fundamentally against being a shape shifting
[1:14:23] Speaker 2: kind of offense. It can be a bare game plan
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: against that, and Byu has done that to great effect
[1:14:28] Speaker 2: over the year. Is why Colone's talking. You got a
[1:14:30] Speaker 2: huge raise and they're thrilled to keep him. I mean,
[1:14:32] Speaker 2: he does that, he's very good at it. My problem
[1:14:36] Speaker 2: with this matchup is it's all dependent on Jake Rhetz
[1:14:38] Speaker 2: left and if all Miss takes him away, it's over.
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened the first time. He started the
[1:14:45] Speaker 2: game zero for nine. He finished five for seventeen with
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: fifty six yards passing. I think he ran for fifty
[1:14:51] Speaker 2: some odd yards. He was their main weapon on offense,
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: but it just wasn't enough to get them anywhere close
[1:14:56] Speaker 2: anywhere to the same ballpark as all Miss. It was
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: twenty three to three at halftime, it was a scoreless
[1:15:03] Speaker 2: third quarter, and then Ole Miss ran away and hid right.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: I think Ole miss is going to come out with
[1:15:08] Speaker 2: the chip on their shoulder after Lane abandoned him.
[1:15:11] Speaker 1: I really do.
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: And regardless of what I think of Pete Golden Golden,
[1:15:15] Speaker 2: I I think they're gonna win this one going away.
[1:15:19] Speaker 2: I don't think it's as lopsided as the first time around.
[1:15:22] Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me if there is a bit of
[1:15:25] Speaker 2: hiccups here now with a new head coach stepping in
[1:15:28] Speaker 2: getting the big boy chair, and there's going to be
[1:15:30] Speaker 2: a little.
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: Bit of a feeling out period in this game.
[1:15:32] Speaker 2: But I don't have a really good reason to go
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: with Tulane, be it with the points or outright.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: They did play more recently, right, so there is the
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: like rust factor with almost obviously, but they're not as good.
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: They're not as good, They're not as good, they're not
[1:15:46] Speaker 2: as talented. I've got it at thirty seven to seventeen.
[1:15:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I said, yeah, thirty one seventeen, thirty
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: one eighteen, something like that. I think it's double digits,
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: but not as pronounced. I just think there are going
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: to be some growing pains for not in this one.
[1:16:01] Speaker 1: But you could see them falling down ten nothing. Who
[1:16:03] Speaker 1: they have Georgia if they win this game, they fall
[1:16:06] Speaker 1: down ten nothing and then just like they're all over
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: the place and they're having to call timeouts that they
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: shouldn't be calling because of procedural stuff and getting lined
[1:16:14] Speaker 1: up and nobody knows what they're doing on fourth and
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: two and taking too much time. And I don't think
[1:16:19] Speaker 1: that's going to happen against Tulane now. But here we are.
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: If you're an All Miss fan and if you're just
[1:16:25] Speaker 2: sort of digesting everything that transpired over the last month
[1:16:29] Speaker 2: with your coach leaving and all that hullabaloo around it,
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: having a first round playoff game against Tulane is actually
[1:16:36] Speaker 2: a nice little runway for your new coaching staff.
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: It's actually a nice litt runway.
[1:16:40] Speaker 2: Get used to the playoff setting, get the swing of
[1:16:43] Speaker 2: it before you get to the big boys, or the
[1:16:45] Speaker 2: bigger boys. I should say, play Georgia next round if
[1:16:49] Speaker 2: you win. Yeah, seven point thirty TNT final college football
[1:16:56] Speaker 2: playoff game in the first round on this one's on
[1:16:58] Speaker 2: Saturday Night. Number twelve James Madison at a mark of
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: twelve and one. They won the Sun Belt. Number five
[1:17:05] Speaker 2: Oregon at a mark of eleven and one. They are
[1:17:08] Speaker 2: a twenty one and one half point favorite. That's a
[1:17:11] Speaker 2: big number. It's a lot of potatoes.
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: That's a lot of potatoes.
[1:17:16] Speaker 2: We got Bob with shoes in and Lewis Riddick on
[1:17:18] Speaker 2: the call of note. Here's sixty three percent of the bets.
[1:17:22] Speaker 2: Seventy four percent of the money is on Oregon at
[1:17:25] Speaker 2: time of recording. That is by far the most lopsided
[1:17:29] Speaker 2: game in the first round of college football playoff betting
[1:17:33] Speaker 2: from a betting standpoint, right, I'm curious to get your
[1:17:37] Speaker 2: take on this one. As a resident resident Oregon expert.
[1:17:43] Speaker 2: Let me say, I've been high on James Madison all
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: year because that defense, the defense to me is intriguing.
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: But let me kick it over to you. Where do
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: you come down on this one? My crazy take is
[1:17:57] Speaker 1: Oregon wins. I don't know about them. It's a big number,
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: and it's a big number against a team with a
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: good defense. You know, there's a limited sample size, obviously
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: with the teams that James Madison played, and that's I mean,
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: it's not an unreasonable take to look at James Madison's
[1:18:17] Speaker 1: schedule and sort of doubt not the veracity but the
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: meaning of like I think they finished with it, like
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: the number one success rate defense in America. They were
[1:18:27] Speaker 1: very even against the run. In the past, they stifled teams.
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: I don't think they've allowed more than twenty points since
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: like mid October something like that. Obviously slow start against
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: who they played, Troy, but eventually just sort of sat
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: on them. This is not an accidentally good defense. This
[1:18:42] Speaker 1: took a lot. There's talent on this defense. They played
[1:18:45] Speaker 1: discipline football. They don't get lost, They play well in
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: the red zone, they prevent big plays like they do
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: a lot of the things that very strong defenses should do,
[1:18:54] Speaker 1: and they do them excellently, so I don't think it's
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: smoking mirrors. At the same time, Oregon has had one
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: of the most lethal offenses in the country this year.
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: They're EPA is top ten. They run, they pass, They
[1:19:09] Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback in Dante More. It looks
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: like they're getting healthier at receiver. They might have the
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: best tight end in the country, one of the best
[1:19:15] Speaker 1: offensive lines in the country. I think if Oregon can
[1:19:18] Speaker 1: figure out what James Madison is doing in terms of
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: run defense, then it could get ugly quickly. That's where
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: we've seen it this year that even against teams like Iowa. Now,
[1:19:31] Speaker 1: they struggled against Washington, but it opened up a little
[1:19:33] Speaker 1: bit against USC Like, if they can figure out the
[1:19:36] Speaker 1: ground game, it could get pretty ugly. And I think
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: it's going to take a minute in this one, but
[1:19:42] Speaker 1: I think Oregon will And so I just there's like
[1:19:47] Speaker 1: a magic number that James Madison needs to keep Oregon
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: under twenty or something like that. And at home with
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: this crowd, this is the night game, right, night game,
[1:19:55] Speaker 1: seven thirty Eastern. Yeah, I just think you know, Oregon
[1:19:57] Speaker 1: hasn't played in a few weeks. They're gonna be excited.
[1:20:00] Speaker 1: It has him in the holidays, So I don't think
[1:20:01] Speaker 1: there's gonna be the rust that we saw last year.
[1:20:04] Speaker 1: I think Oregon's gonna come out and really look strong
[1:20:06] Speaker 1: in this one. And Alanza Barnett, for as exciting as
[1:20:10] Speaker 1: he's been as a quarterback, he's not been the most
[1:20:13] Speaker 1: consistent accurate passer. No, I don't think he did anything
[1:20:16] Speaker 1: against Troy through the air, right, He's had some down moments.
[1:20:20] Speaker 1: I just I think the Oregon defense is going to
[1:20:23] Speaker 1: be suffocating. I think they're going to figure things out
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: on the ground. I think we're going to see some
[1:20:27] Speaker 1: big plays from this Oregon offense, and I think we
[1:20:30] Speaker 1: see a bit of a crock potting. I have it
[1:20:32] Speaker 1: at like thirty five thirteen, so I guess that's barely
[1:20:34] Speaker 1: covering maybe THEE seven thirteen, thirty three ten, I don't know.
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: I think they went by like twenty two to twenty four.
[1:20:41] Speaker 1: I like James Madison. I'm glad James Madison made this. Yeah,
[1:20:44] Speaker 1: and their defense is really interesting to me. As he said,
[1:20:49] Speaker 1: overall top success rate against they've been very very solid,
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: even against both the run in the past. I think
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: they're technically second against both the run in the past,
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: but when you run all the numbers, it comes to first. Nationally,
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: they're very pretty good, very very good. My concern about
[1:21:05] Speaker 1: the defense though, is that there is a tendency to
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: give up big plays and against an Oregon offense that
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: creates a big gainer of twenty or more yards about
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: ten percent of the time. That's an issue. That's number
[1:21:17] Speaker 1: one in the country right number one in the country.
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: More often than any other team, they're creating twenty yard
[1:21:22] Speaker 1: plus plays.
[1:21:22] Speaker 2: That's a problem for James Madison. My biggest issue with
[1:21:26] Speaker 2: JMU though, is that I've watched every single game, every
[1:21:31] Speaker 2: single game this season. I watched it the first time through,
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: I went back and I watched a couple games again
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: before putting this together. Yeah, they're not good enough to
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: keep paced with the Oregon that's the issue. I watched
[1:21:44] Speaker 2: that Sun Belt Championship game against Troy. They did not
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: look like a playoff team in that game. Their defense
[1:21:48] Speaker 2: was solid. Their defense rose to the occasion because their
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: offense put them in some bad spots. So I still
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: like the defense a great deal. All the runs back offensively,
[1:21:58] Speaker 2: though not where it needs to be. And so I
[1:22:03] Speaker 2: just wonder, even if the defense is stingy enough to
[1:22:05] Speaker 2: hold Oregon to like thirty points, are they going to
[1:22:12] Speaker 2: be good enough to play the physical brand of football
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: that they want to with Wayne Knight?
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: Oh, thank you? You know, the kind that Bob Chesney likes,
[1:22:20] Speaker 1: by the way, outgoing coach Bob ches right, Yeah, he's
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: he's on his way out in a good way for
[1:22:27] Speaker 1: him taking the UCLA job, and Oregon's losing both of
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: their coordinators Writstein and tash Lupoi. I'm just not sure.
[1:22:36] Speaker 2: How JMU scores the points that they're going to need
[1:22:38] Speaker 2: to score against Oregon, even if the defense is good
[1:22:40] Speaker 2: enough and to your point, I like Alonza Barnett. His
[1:22:44] Speaker 2: story coming back from an ACL tear late in the
[1:22:47] Speaker 2: year last year but not missing any action this year
[1:22:50] Speaker 2: has been awesome. He is a very very good quarterback.
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: He is not a good enough passer to truly challenge
[1:22:57] Speaker 2: the Oregon duck defense here. In fact, I'll go out
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: in a limb. There's going to be a mind boggling,
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: mind bogglingly bad interception at some point in this game, Okay,
[1:23:08] Speaker 2: a true folly floater that gets popped up over the
[1:23:11] Speaker 2: middle of the field and you just scratch your head afterwards.
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: That is what we are headed towards in this game.
[1:23:16] Speaker 1: Now.
[1:23:16] Speaker 2: Because I dislike Alonzo Barnett, I just think his receiving core,
[1:23:21] Speaker 2: especially his offensive line, is going to be overmatched.
[1:23:24] Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable.
[1:23:25] Speaker 2: Oregon is good enough to sell out to stop the
[1:23:27] Speaker 2: run and still stop the pass without having to over
[1:23:30] Speaker 2: commit one way or the other.
[1:23:32] Speaker 1: I've got it at thirty three fourteen, Oregan, Okay, so
[1:23:35] Speaker 1: that is quick math went to a state school, got
[1:23:38] Speaker 1: the fifty five of ten earlier, so that is nineteen
[1:23:41] Speaker 1: point nineteen points. So jam you covering? Yeah, okay, I'll
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: give you limit a couple of early possessions. I'll kick
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: with that, But there's a the uh oh god, what
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: was I going to say something about, Yeah, there's I
[1:23:55] Speaker 1: just don't trust that pop from the passing game. Like
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: you mentioned Oregon, the games that they have lost under
[1:23:59] Speaker 1: Dan Landing, by and large, right, it's Michael Panics games,
[1:24:02] Speaker 1: it's this year, the Heisman winning quarterback in Fernando Mendoza,
[1:24:05] Speaker 1: Ohio State's offense last year in the Bowl game. I
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: just I don't think it meets that bar So I'm
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: going ducks. There.
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