# RIVALRY WEEK REACTIONS: Texas A&M Goes Down, Iron Bowl Madness, Ohio State Finally Beats Michigan | College Football

An episode of [The Solid Verbal College Football Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/270037732), 30 Nov 2025, 1 h 25 min.

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The 2025 college football regular season is officially in the books after a Rivalry Week that gave us a little bit of everything. In this episode, we unpack the results, from Texas's big upset of Texas A&M on Friday night to the thrilling finish of the Iron Bowl. Listen in as we break down Georgia's rock fight with Georgia Tech, Ohio State's triumph over Michigan, Miami's destruction of Pitt, Oklahoma's close call against LSU, and more. Plus, a quick look ahead at what next week's championship matchups look like, our Week 14 Dude Alerts and a momentous Reverbs segment. Timecodes: 0:00 - Intro & Reverbs 6:00 - Texas upsets Texas A&M 13:55 - Georgia beats Georgia Tech 17:14 - Alabama wins the Iron Bowl 24:36 - Ohio State wins The Game 35:17 - Miami destroys Pitt 37:48 - ACC Championship Weirdness 43:11 - Big 12 Championship Rematch 48:13 - Other SEC Storylines 1:01:48 - Other ACC Storylines 1:02:12 - Other Big Ten Storylines 1:10:43 - Other Big 12 Storylines 1:14:46 - G6 Championship Update 1:20:38 - Dude Alerts Support the show!: https://www.patreon.com/solidverbal See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull.
[0:05] Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.
[0:08] Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
[0:10] Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Ato State?
[0:13] Speaker 3: Is that?
[0:13] Speaker 4: Whoo whoo?
[0:14] Speaker 5: And no, Dan and tie.
[0:18] Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein, Congratulations, my good friend. We have completed our
[0:24] Speaker 4: eighteenth regular season as a college football show. Not to
[0:29] Speaker 4: make us all feel old here, but it's been a
[0:31] Speaker 4: wild ride the whole way through. But certainly with respect
[0:36] Speaker 4: to the twenty twenty five college football season, Dan, we
[0:38] Speaker 4: have results to discuss. We have much to discuss here.
[0:42] Speaker 4: My rivalry week has come to a conclusion, sir, welcome back.
[0:46] Speaker 1: How are you good? I mean there's still what Stanford
[0:49] Speaker 1: Notre Dame at time of recording. Are there any other
[0:51] Speaker 1: active games? I saw Cal got by SMU with obviously
[0:55] Speaker 1: huge acc implications late in the evening. Is there anything
[0:59] Speaker 1: else ongoing? And I'm not talking about with playoff implications.
[1:02] Speaker 1: I'm not talking about conference implications. I'm talking about pure
[1:05] Speaker 1: emotional implications going into this long, cold off season.
[1:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've got UNLV still in progress, We've
[1:13] Speaker 4: got Fresno State and Wyoming still in progress. But by
[1:16] Speaker 4: and large, we are winding down here as we come
[1:19] Speaker 4: on the airwaves tonight, okay, midnight. We did a live
[1:23] Speaker 4: stream on Friday night during Texas Texas A and M,
[1:25] Speaker 4: which of course we will discuss on today's reaction stream.
[1:30] Speaker 4: We did a live stream earlier today looking at the
[1:32] Speaker 4: Ohio State Michigan game, Ohio State finally getting over the
[1:36] Speaker 4: hump snap in their four game losing streak. Of course
[1:39] Speaker 4: we will talk about that game as well. We have
[1:42] Speaker 4: much to discuss here as we have conference championship matchups
[1:45] Speaker 4: that are now officially or almost officially said.
[1:49] Speaker 5: I will get to that as well.
[1:51] Speaker 4: We also have a bunch of dood alerts and we're
[1:54] Speaker 4: going to do our normal thing here running through all
[1:56] Speaker 4: of the action that was Dan Rubinstein. I thought as
[2:02] Speaker 4: maybe a bit of a treat, and especially since I
[2:04] Speaker 4: teased it out on the last episode, that this could
[2:08] Speaker 4: potentially be the final reverb segment. I thought maybe we
[2:12] Speaker 4: could do something like we used to back in the day. Okay,
[2:15] Speaker 4: I used to use the reverbs as sort of a
[2:18] Speaker 4: moose boush yeah, a launching point, an appetizer, and icebreaker.
[2:24] Speaker 5: So if this is the end for the reverbs, I
[2:26] Speaker 5: don't know.
[2:27] Speaker 4: We can discuss that in the off season, but it
[2:29] Speaker 4: is the end for this regular season. Let's hear from
[2:32] Speaker 4: the verbalerhood. Let's get this thing started off on the
[2:35] Speaker 4: right foot. We'll pick it up on the flip side.
[2:37] Speaker 4: Here are your rivalry week reverbs.
[2:39] Speaker 6: Hey, Dan and Zai, this is Tommy calling in from
[2:42] Speaker 6: Point Pleasant, New Jersey, and I just wanted to give
[2:44] Speaker 6: the verbalers an update on someone who called in earlier
[2:48] Speaker 6: in the season. I just proposed to my girlfriends and Babe,
[2:52] Speaker 6: what do you got to say? I think we may
[2:54] Speaker 6: be the first solid verbosal todlu Go Tigers.
[3:00] Speaker 5: All right, this is Chester from Columbus. Hey, this is
[3:02] Speaker 5: Shash and San Antonio.
[3:03] Speaker 3: Hey, this is Caleb from Albuquerque. The New Mexico Lobos
[3:07] Speaker 3: had one of their best wins in thirty years today.
[3:10] Speaker 3: The stadium was packed. We won in double overtime. We're
[3:13] Speaker 3: going to the conference championship. And then Bronco Minden Hall
[3:17] Speaker 3: ruined it again. God, I hate you Bronco Minden Hall.
[3:22] Speaker 3: Two thousand days and the Bucks finally got it done.
[3:27] Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be weirder when I called that.
[3:29] Speaker 2: I wasn't.
[3:30] Speaker 7: So if you do the math, Michigan paid Bryce Underwood.
[3:34] Speaker 5: They paid him one point five million dollars per completion.
[3:38] Speaker 2: I'm walking out of Michigan Stadium in the snow, and
[3:41] Speaker 2: this is the best day ever.
[3:42] Speaker 6: Investco QQQ more like Investco Turkey, back yard football, pumpkin
[3:49] Speaker 6: pie and beating little.
[3:51] Speaker 5: Brother hook them damn horn.
[3:54] Speaker 2: My disappointment isn't measurable, and my wife is runned to
[3:59] Speaker 2: be an agg It's to no pay.
[4:01] Speaker 4: It's a day later, and I'm still basking in the fact.
[4:05] Speaker 1: That the iowahaw Gys and the Chicago Bears won a
[4:08] Speaker 1: football game on the same day.
[4:10] Speaker 6: Gohawks, Baby got you moss from a snowy day up
[4:13] Speaker 6: here in Minneapolis.
[4:14] Speaker 1: It's just like Luke Fickle. The axe has been retained
[4:16] Speaker 1: for one more year.
[4:17] Speaker 2: You know. I agree with the hog fans that this
[4:20] Speaker 2: isn't really a rivalry they have with Miszoo, because rivalries
[4:23] Speaker 2: are usually competitive.
[4:25] Speaker 5: I received many thoughtful, touching.
[4:28] Speaker 2: Gifts for my friends and family on this November twenty nine,
[4:32] Speaker 2: to my thirtieth birthday, but it is hard to cop
[4:36] Speaker 2: an Oregon win over the wash Agon oscar.
[4:39] Speaker 5: The cop is coming home bear down. I never doubted
[4:42] Speaker 5: you for a minute. Brett Brennan maybe for a minute.
[4:46] Speaker 1: Sorry to all of my sheracuse friends.
[4:48] Speaker 2: On bass of my Boston College Eagles.
[4:51] Speaker 1: I also don't know what happens two and ten.
[4:54] Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, Just like we drew it up, Dan
[4:57] Speaker 2: and tie, Penn State fairly beats Rutgers to make it's
[5:00] Speaker 2: six and six record and being Bowl eligible. We are
[5:05] Speaker 2: One set of accounting majors from New Jersey is crying.
[5:08] Speaker 2: One set of accounting and business majors from New Jersey
[5:11] Speaker 2: is celebrating.
[5:12] Speaker 1: Wahoo, wah, baby go.
[5:15] Speaker 5: Who's so?
[5:15] Speaker 7: If we can all agree that the college Football Playoff
[5:20] Speaker 7: is an entertainment product for making money, why wouldn't you
[5:24] Speaker 7: want arch manning in your entertainment product? Your move CFP committee,
[5:30] Speaker 7: hookem horns.
[5:31] Speaker 4: If this truly be the final reverb line, I have
[5:35] Speaker 4: something very important I need to get off my chest.
[5:37] Speaker 5: All of your school stink, Mine is the only good one.
[5:41] Speaker 5: Stay solid, all right? What a batch of reverbs.
[5:45] Speaker 4: Thank you to our chief reverb engineer Shay for cutting
[5:50] Speaker 4: those together. The reverbline officially closed, at least for now,
[5:55] Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein, we appreciate the verballerhood getting us off on
[5:59] Speaker 4: the right foot, where do you think the most appropriate
[6:02] Speaker 4: place is to start? Now that we've got Week fourteen
[6:05] Speaker 4: slash Rivalry Week mostly in the books again, a couple
[6:09] Speaker 4: of games still going on as we record at midnight
[6:11] Speaker 4: Eastern time, but much action to discuss a lot going
[6:16] Speaker 4: on in and around the world of college football on
[6:18] Speaker 4: the field, off the field, you name it.
[6:19] Speaker 5: Where do you want to go first?
[6:22] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin just pooped, and I guess we're going to
[6:26] Speaker 1: get a podcast from a bunch of different networks about
[6:30] Speaker 1: how solid it was and what that might mean for
[6:32] Speaker 1: his future decision making. What he had for lunch, maybe
[6:36] Speaker 1: what it implies he's going to have for breakfast tomorrow.
[6:38] Speaker 4: Are you hinting that maybe you're tired of the incessant
[6:42] Speaker 4: Lane Kiff in coverage?
[6:43] Speaker 5: Is that what I am detecting here?
[6:44] Speaker 2: Well?
[6:44] Speaker 1: No, I mean I have so many playoff memories involving
[6:48] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin as a head coach that I'm just trying
[6:51] Speaker 1: to organize all my thoughts at once, because obviously we
[6:54] Speaker 1: have to put that kind of effort and thought into
[6:56] Speaker 1: his future. Where should we start?
[6:59] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[7:00] Speaker 1: Let's start with the Texas game. How about that? It
[7:03] Speaker 1: was Friday, It was huge, It was exciting. It has implications.
[7:06] Speaker 1: Let's go there.
[7:07] Speaker 4: We did a live stream on Friday night and this
[7:10] Speaker 4: is sort of what kicked off the weekend. Of course,
[7:12] Speaker 4: we had games throughout the day on Friday. Some were
[7:16] Speaker 4: better than others. Right, I didn't have George Georgia Tech
[7:19] Speaker 4: being a rock fight. Did not foresee that one. That
[7:22] Speaker 4: was not in the cards for me, not in the
[7:24] Speaker 4: cards for you. We had a couple other games throughout
[7:27] Speaker 4: the day. We will talk about the Egg Bowl that
[7:30] Speaker 4: took place a new Eastern time on Friday, but the
[7:34] Speaker 4: big one was at night and it was between Texas
[7:37] Speaker 4: A and M and Texas the Lone Star Showdown returning
[7:40] Speaker 4: to Austin for the first time in fifteen years. Texas
[7:45] Speaker 4: A and M came in I think a slight favorite
[7:47] Speaker 4: two and a half, three points, something of that nature.
[7:50] Speaker 4: Both of us were on Texas A and M for
[7:52] Speaker 4: a whole multitude of reasons.
[7:54] Speaker 5: But this game evolved in a really strange way. You know.
[7:58] Speaker 4: It went from I thought early looking like arch Manning
[8:04] Speaker 4: was going to be constantly under duress and was not
[8:06] Speaker 4: going to have much much to say with the final outcome,
[8:09] Speaker 4: just because of how ferocious it seemed the A and
[8:12] Speaker 4: M defense was But then is the game were on,
[8:14] Speaker 4: he started to grow into it.
[8:15] Speaker 5: His game were on.
[8:16] Speaker 4: Texas started to actually lean on its run game. It
[8:20] Speaker 4: became apparent that Marcel Reid and the otherwise really potent
[8:24] Speaker 4: Texas A and M offense was not able to just
[8:27] Speaker 4: flip a switch and get it going against his Texas defense.
[8:31] Speaker 4: And before you knew it, Texas pulled the big time
[8:33] Speaker 4: upset at home and through the SEC title chase to
[8:37] Speaker 4: some extent, the College Football playoff chase a bunch of
[8:40] Speaker 4: things into a I don't know, a mini tailspin, let's say,
[8:45] Speaker 4: headed into the college football weekend.
[8:48] Speaker 1: Yes, nook. It was a disappointing first half for arch
[8:53] Speaker 1: Manning and Texas offensively. Texas AM did a nice job
[8:56] Speaker 1: of speeding him up, but Texas did a good job
[8:59] Speaker 1: of not having any back breaking mistakes. They were just
[9:02] Speaker 1: off in that first half. Whereas Texas A and M
[9:06] Speaker 1: was making plays at times, Casey Concepcion was making plays,
[9:10] Speaker 1: Marcel Reid's ankle rolled from under him and it was,
[9:13] Speaker 1: you know, actually really nice to see him come back
[9:15] Speaker 1: pretty quickly from that after what looked like it could
[9:19] Speaker 1: have been a pretty scary situation, and then Texas came
[9:22] Speaker 1: out in the second half and made place. It was
[9:25] Speaker 1: as comfortable as we've seen arch Manning against a very
[9:29] Speaker 1: good team this season in a high leverage moment, and
[9:32] Speaker 1: there have been a lot of them for Texas this season,
[9:34] Speaker 1: given the quality of their opponents over the course of
[9:36] Speaker 1: this season. But stepping into the pocket, you know, forging
[9:39] Speaker 1: that connection with Jack injuries, the tight end transfer from
[9:42] Speaker 1: cal not getting a ton from his running game leading
[9:45] Speaker 1: up to this game, and then all of the sudden
[9:48] Speaker 1: being able to pop some in play action both you know,
[9:51] Speaker 1: with his own arm and then using his own legs
[9:54] Speaker 1: and getting Trey Wisner to get I mean, this wasn't
[9:57] Speaker 1: arch Manning getting Trey Wiser, but Texas getting Trey Wisner
[10:00] Speaker 1: to sort of find grass, find turf and open up
[10:04] Speaker 1: holes for him. And you could just see Texas riding
[10:09] Speaker 1: the energy in the stadium in that second half, getting
[10:12] Speaker 1: stops on defense. And that's without Anthony Hill that this
[10:17] Speaker 1: was when Texas sort of ascended to what we all
[10:21] Speaker 1: expected them to more consistently be this year. I would
[10:25] Speaker 1: argue a little too little, too late in terms of
[10:27] Speaker 1: the Texas fan postseason hopes, but in terms of the
[10:33] Speaker 1: vibes around this specific performance. The ending was immaculate for Texas.
[10:39] Speaker 4: It was I was really impressed with Texas's ability to
[10:42] Speaker 4: rally in the second half with twenty four points. I
[10:45] Speaker 4: was impressed by their defense and as I said, its
[10:49] Speaker 4: ability to contain Marcel Read and otherwise really solid A
[10:53] Speaker 4: and m ground assault. And I've look I've been impressed
[10:57] Speaker 4: the last couple weeks, but I'll say it again with
[10:59] Speaker 4: what we saw out of our I don't want to
[11:00] Speaker 4: be labor the point, but we've seen real growth from
[11:03] Speaker 4: March Manning. It seems like ever since he knocked his
[11:06] Speaker 4: head a couple weeks ago, he's played a lot freer
[11:09] Speaker 4: out there. He's been a lot more decisive. It feels
[11:12] Speaker 4: like he's got better control of the offense. He doesn't
[11:14] Speaker 4: have happy feet, you know, the mechanics at times can
[11:17] Speaker 4: still be a bit wonky. But he is delivering and
[11:19] Speaker 4: he is finding ways to get results. In this case,
[11:22] Speaker 4: it wasn't so much through the air, though there was
[11:24] Speaker 4: a little bit of that. He was getting it done
[11:26] Speaker 4: on the ground at a big run, big thirty five
[11:28] Speaker 4: yard touchdown run at the very end to sort of
[11:30] Speaker 4: give them some distance. They end up winning this one
[11:33] Speaker 4: at home by a twenty seven to seventeen margin. So
[11:37] Speaker 4: I credit Texas on a bunch of different fronts. So
[11:39] Speaker 4: Texas A and M is still going to be in
[11:40] Speaker 4: this thing. But I think you pushed up against the
[11:43] Speaker 4: point now that we are going to hear endlessly over
[11:47] Speaker 4: the next week and a day or so, and that
[11:50] Speaker 4: is going to be can three loss Texas? Should three
[11:53] Speaker 4: loss Texas be actually considered to be part of the
[11:56] Speaker 4: College Football Playoff?
[11:57] Speaker 5: Again?
[11:58] Speaker 4: It's kind of getting tight there at the back end
[12:02] Speaker 4: of the College Football Playoff rankings. Anywhere between nine and
[12:06] Speaker 4: like thirteen could go a bunch of different directions depending
[12:10] Speaker 4: on how the committee feels. Now you add in this
[12:12] Speaker 4: Texas element, and who knows. I don't personally think they should.
[12:16] Speaker 5: Be up there.
[12:17] Speaker 4: I think they made a hell of a run here
[12:18] Speaker 4: and this was a fantastic win, one of the best
[12:21] Speaker 4: wins we've seen all season. But I don't have a
[12:23] Speaker 4: three loss Texas in at this point.
[12:26] Speaker 1: Do you think we have a lot to get to
[12:27] Speaker 1: do you think the time is right to bring back
[12:30] Speaker 1: Mac Brown to start campaigning in the way that only
[12:33] Speaker 1: Mac Brown knows how to do, and he can take
[12:36] Speaker 1: shots at Cal once again like he did way back when. Yes,
[12:39] Speaker 1: for old time sake, but this is the time for
[12:42] Speaker 1: Mac Brown to make his beautiful return to Austin to
[12:46] Speaker 1: start the politicking because while Sark is doing his best,
[12:50] Speaker 1: there's nothing like ol Mac and maybe Sally, you know
[12:54] Speaker 1: Sally to get involved with the Texas PR blitz that
[13:00] Speaker 1: a certain network based in Bristol, Connecticut may or may
[13:02] Speaker 1: not be behind. So it was great for Texas. Obviously,
[13:07] Speaker 1: the Georgia game still happens, So it hasn't been a
[13:09] Speaker 1: great November for Texas, but certainly there have been more
[13:14] Speaker 1: promising moments for Texas, and Texas A and M had
[13:18] Speaker 1: been getting away with it for a little while against
[13:20] Speaker 1: some down opponents. It hasn't been an incredible schedule like
[13:22] Speaker 1: Texas has faced for Texas A and M and some
[13:25] Speaker 1: close wins, some close calls. Most recently against South Carolina,
[13:28] Speaker 1: we called the lro the luck running out. I don't
[13:30] Speaker 1: think Texas A and M is a lucky team. I
[13:31] Speaker 1: think they're a very good team. But you can't keep
[13:34] Speaker 1: winning like that and expect to keep winning like that
[13:37] Speaker 1: as opponents get better, And it just couldn't happen in Austin.
[13:40] Speaker 1: I'm glad the energy and malice and emotional violence is
[13:46] Speaker 1: back in this matchup and in this sport.
[13:47] Speaker 4: I am too. I am too. And it actually worked
[13:50] Speaker 4: out quite well. Doing it on a Friday night. This
[13:52] Speaker 4: was nice, great, I have yeah Friday. I appreciated that.
[13:55] Speaker 4: So by virtue of the A and M loss that
[13:59] Speaker 4: set into a series of events that A put Georgia
[14:03] Speaker 4: into the SEC Title Game. And then by virtue of
[14:06] Speaker 4: the win in the Iron Bowl just a short while ago,
[14:09] Speaker 4: a very good game, a crazy game in the Iron
[14:12] Speaker 4: Bowl between Alabama and Auburn. It looks like we're going
[14:15] Speaker 4: to get a rematch in the SEC title game between
[14:18] Speaker 4: the George Bulldogs and the Alabama Crimson tied down.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel good about that. As a
[14:25] Speaker 1: television viewer, I imagine both of these teams would rather
[14:28] Speaker 1: not play this game and just move to sim this
[14:31] Speaker 1: game and move on to the College Football playoff. But
[14:35] Speaker 1: the way we got here, obviously, Georgia beating Georgia Tech
[14:39] Speaker 1: had no bearing on their their clinching. Obviously, there was
[14:42] Speaker 1: other elements of this that clinched it, namely Texas A
[14:45] Speaker 1: and M losing. But it's an easy transition to Georgia
[14:48] Speaker 1: and Georgia Tech and an absolute rock fight before the
[14:51] Speaker 1: Texas Texas A and M matchup. It was arguably Gunner
[14:55] Speaker 1: Stockton's worst game as the starting quarterback.
[14:57] Speaker 5: Seventy set ti seventy yard. Show some respect for.
[15:01] Speaker 4: The seventy yards passing that Gunner stock that had in
[15:04] Speaker 4: this football game against a very bad, otherwise very bad
[15:07] Speaker 4: Georgia Tech defense.
[15:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, the Georgia Tech secondary played very well for the
[15:12] Speaker 1: most part against this Georgia offense. They got off the
[15:15] Speaker 1: field over and over and over again and out of nowhere.
[15:18] Speaker 1: By the way, because the Georgia defense, Georgia Tech defense
[15:21] Speaker 1: these past five six weeks has been pretty abysmal, but
[15:25] Speaker 1: a great game plan executed really well, and Georgia had
[15:28] Speaker 1: to fight for tough yards. They made plays when it matters,
[15:30] Speaker 1: and it did come down, by the way, a beautiful
[15:32] Speaker 1: Haines King ball up the left sideline to set up
[15:36] Speaker 1: a hail Mary attempt at the end of this game.
[15:38] Speaker 1: And this was a is a tough offensive game for
[15:41] Speaker 1: Georgia Tech by and large, both on the ground and
[15:44] Speaker 1: through the air. A great game plan execution for Georgia's
[15:47] Speaker 1: defense as well, but they weren't positioned to I think
[15:51] Speaker 1: tie this game late and came up short there, but
[15:56] Speaker 1: it was if you like offensive football, I'm sorry this
[16:01] Speaker 1: one didn't have a ton of it, but it was
[16:03] Speaker 1: still a fun, weird back and forth with I think
[16:07] Speaker 1: a decent amount of offensive slop thrown in at times.
[16:10] Speaker 1: Gunner Stockton just looked pretty tentative going into this Georgia
[16:14] Speaker 1: Tech defense. But we say win your clunkers for a reason,
[16:17] Speaker 1: and Georgia absolutely did in this one. In it was
[16:21] Speaker 1: a disappointing visual for me that this game was in
[16:23] Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz Stadium, but all the same, good win for
[16:27] Speaker 1: Georgia as they move forward as a likely top four
[16:31] Speaker 1: or five seed in this playoff.
[16:32] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[16:33] Speaker 4: I mean it's clean, old fashioned hate. As with most
[16:35] Speaker 4: of the rivalries we're going to talk about here tonight,
[16:37] Speaker 4: it's not about winning by thirty. It's about winning by three,
[16:40] Speaker 4: or just finding a way to win by point three,
[16:41] Speaker 4: anything you can do to get past the rival. We
[16:45] Speaker 4: throw the records out. I don't have the sound handy,
[16:47] Speaker 4: but you know the drill here. I did not have
[16:49] Speaker 4: a rock fight in this game, though in the Bengo
[16:50] Speaker 4: card no we found at far was sixteen to nine.
[16:53] Speaker 4: Either team eclipse more than two hundred and sixty total yards.
[16:57] Speaker 4: And you know I had the difference as George is
[16:59] Speaker 4: just ability to run the ball a little bit better
[17:02] Speaker 4: control the clock. I think they had about an eleven
[17:04] Speaker 4: minute edge in terms of time of possession.
[17:07] Speaker 5: And Georgia just says, alligator blood this year.
[17:09] Speaker 4: Man, they just keep freaking hanging around. Can't kill them.
[17:12] Speaker 4: And this is another instance of that. They will get
[17:14] Speaker 4: another crack now at Alabama, who just won the Iron Bowl.
[17:19] Speaker 4: This game was nuts. I was on pins and needles
[17:23] Speaker 4: the entire time watching this game for two reasons. For
[17:26] Speaker 4: three reasons actually. The first is it was just a
[17:29] Speaker 4: hell of a game, a lot of emotion. You could
[17:32] Speaker 4: feel that coursing through the speakers in your television. The
[17:35] Speaker 4: second is I picked Auburn out right. I think you
[17:38] Speaker 4: picked Auburn outright as well. I can't remember for that
[17:42] Speaker 4: far back continue, but we both were at least keen
[17:46] Speaker 4: on Auburn to keep this one close and make a
[17:48] Speaker 4: really good game out of it.
[17:49] Speaker 5: Okay, So there was that side of it.
[17:52] Speaker 4: And then just speaking personally as somebody who has a
[17:55] Speaker 4: rooting interest in Notre Dame, who I don't know what
[17:58] Speaker 4: the Committee is going to do with Miami after they
[18:01] Speaker 4: knocked off Pitt.
[18:01] Speaker 5: We will talk about that game.
[18:03] Speaker 4: It didn't just knock them off, handle them. Yeah, took
[18:06] Speaker 4: care of Pit, you know, no big deal. I do
[18:10] Speaker 4: have a little bit of a concern as to how
[18:11] Speaker 4: the Committee might feel about Notre Dame in light of
[18:14] Speaker 4: some of the results we saw today. So I just
[18:17] Speaker 4: as a fan, was rooting for Auburn to pull the w.
[18:21] Speaker 1: Yes.
[18:21] Speaker 4: I don't know how Auburn fans have put themselves through
[18:25] Speaker 4: this for twelve straight games.
[18:27] Speaker 1: This is like twelve straight decades.
[18:29] Speaker 4: But yeah, every play of the Auburn offense is either
[18:34] Speaker 4: a spectacular moment or an utter disaster, and there is
[18:39] Speaker 4: no in between. People die every day with lesser ailments
[18:44] Speaker 4: than this. Jeez, Okay, I don't know how you survive
[18:50] Speaker 4: this if you are an Auburn fan. It makes sense
[18:53] Speaker 4: why they got rid of Hugh Freeze. They don't want
[18:55] Speaker 4: to deal with this anymore either. This was a very
[18:59] Speaker 4: win of game for the Auburn Tigers. I will credit
[19:03] Speaker 4: Alabama because there were some moments in this game where
[19:07] Speaker 4: they needed to rise to the occasion. A hu I
[19:10] Speaker 4: got all time big balls moment, I'm gonna call it
[19:13] Speaker 4: for Kaitlin de Bor going for it on fourth and
[19:16] Speaker 4: whatever instead of kicking the chip shot field goal to
[19:19] Speaker 4: take the late lead.
[19:20] Speaker 5: They score the.
[19:21] Speaker 4: Touchdown, they end up winning this one twenty seven to twenty.
[19:23] Speaker 4: So clearly Alabama rose to the moment when they had to,
[19:27] Speaker 4: even though it wasn't their best game. But on the
[19:30] Speaker 4: Auburn side, and I will speak to that just because
[19:32] Speaker 4: I was watching from that perspective. I was an Auburn
[19:35] Speaker 4: fan for the day. Okay, this game was infuriating because
[19:41] Speaker 4: it was there. It was there. But if it's not
[19:45] Speaker 4: a drop, it's a fumble, it's a penalty, it's a
[19:49] Speaker 4: blown coverage, it's this was a poorly coached team on
[19:53] Speaker 4: display that still had enough talent to win the Iron Bowl,
[19:58] Speaker 4: and ultimately they lost it on fumble. Fittingly, they lost
[20:02] Speaker 4: it on a cam Coleman fumble. So all's well, I
[20:05] Speaker 4: guess that ends well at least if you're sticking to
[20:09] Speaker 4: the brand that was.
[20:10] Speaker 5: Auburn football in twenty twenty five. This is a hell
[20:12] Speaker 5: of a game.
[20:13] Speaker 1: Man. You just think you can fire Hugh Freese and
[20:16] Speaker 1: get rid of that stank in your program in the
[20:19] Speaker 1: same season. What have we been calling them elite losers?
[20:26] Speaker 4: This is a different echelon of elite loser dumb. Okay, Yes,
[20:32] Speaker 4: I don't know how you do this and sustain it
[20:36] Speaker 4: for a full twelve game season. It has been this
[20:39] Speaker 4: way the whole time. It didn't matter who the quarterback was,
[20:42] Speaker 4: didn't matter who the coach was. They have been this
[20:44] Speaker 4: team all year. And I feel deeply, deeply for the
[20:49] Speaker 4: Auburn fans out there in the for baller hood because
[20:53] Speaker 4: you all need like take a gummy or hit like
[20:56] Speaker 4: hit the bottle, do something, Go get them at size,
[21:00] Speaker 4: whatever it takes. Man, find some way to alleviate the stress,
[21:05] Speaker 4: because this is finally over now and you can move on,
[21:08] Speaker 4: hopefully and get.
[21:09] Speaker 5: To a more stable place.
[21:10] Speaker 1: It's never over, Ty. We're about to have signing day
[21:13] Speaker 1: next week, We're about to have the portal opening, We're
[21:15] Speaker 1: about to have Auburn hire a coach. Ty, We're just
[21:19] Speaker 1: starting this. Being an Auburn fan is like somebody putting
[21:23] Speaker 1: an air tag in your car without you knowing it
[21:25] Speaker 1: right that you're just being followed by this misery. It's
[21:29] Speaker 1: tracking you. You're afflicted with Auburn fandom at this point,
[21:33] Speaker 1: So yes, I mean the end of this game was wild,
[21:36] Speaker 1: absolutely wild. They somehow they lose the ball on the
[21:38] Speaker 1: cam Coleman fumble out of bounds there by the way
[21:41] Speaker 1: leading up to that point, they go down seventeen to nothing.
[21:44] Speaker 1: Then absolutely hound Ty Simpson in the Alabama offense and
[21:48] Speaker 1: he makes a couple of incredible plays. I think it
[21:50] Speaker 1: was Isaiah Horton who had I think five catches, three
[21:52] Speaker 1: of which went for touchdowns. Just like an insane game
[21:55] Speaker 1: on all levels. Jam Miller goes out hurt midway through
[21:59] Speaker 1: this one. Alabama keeps sort of finding a way to
[22:03] Speaker 1: outpace Auburn slightly. Auburn and Ashton Daniels keep sort of
[22:06] Speaker 1: clawing back, and I think it was Simmons who was
[22:09] Speaker 1: the receiver who was shining, you know, sort of all
[22:11] Speaker 1: or nothing plays for Auburn and able to move them
[22:14] Speaker 1: all some on the ground, but they keep clawing back.
[22:17] Speaker 1: Have an opportunity a couple times late in this game,
[22:19] Speaker 1: even after that fumble, they get a punt with like
[22:23] Speaker 1: twenty seconds left after stopping Bama with an opportunity to
[22:26] Speaker 1: at least get to midfield for a heave, completely muff
[22:30] Speaker 1: the punt. The returner tries to catch it with his larynx.
[22:35] Speaker 4: I don't know what the plan was there here whatever,
[22:38] Speaker 4: This is like where your collar bones meet the sternum.
[22:41] Speaker 5: That's where he tried to catch the punt.
[22:43] Speaker 1: It fumbles. It just bounces straight up into the air
[22:47] Speaker 1: to four awaiting Alabama players who all somehow bat it
[22:50] Speaker 1: out of bounds, giving Auburn even more life, but taking
[22:53] Speaker 1: off a few seconds off the clock. Ashton Daniels both
[22:57] Speaker 1: doesn't there's no plan at the end. He both doesn't
[23:00] Speaker 1: throw like a quick outer or crossing pattern to get
[23:02] Speaker 1: out of bounds, hopefully closer to midfield. He's just immediately besieged,
[23:07] Speaker 1: tries to make a play and basically gets two seconds
[23:12] Speaker 1: left on the clock after completing a pass. Is in
[23:14] Speaker 1: shotgun formations, so not even attempting a miraculous spike, and
[23:19] Speaker 1: they attempt some sort of miracle play that goes nowhere,
[23:21] Speaker 1: and there's the ending.
[23:23] Speaker 4: There were some controversial calls and no calls in this
[23:26] Speaker 4: game as well. Always has very much been the theme
[23:29] Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five as well. If we are putting
[23:32] Speaker 4: a bow on this thing, so this game had at
[23:34] Speaker 4: all just whether you're a Bama fan an Auburn fan,
[23:38] Speaker 4: God bless you.
[23:39] Speaker 5: If you're an fan, oh my god, or if.
[23:42] Speaker 4: You're a fan of the SEC, or just college football
[23:44] Speaker 4: in general, this was a hell of an ending.
[23:45] Speaker 5: You love to see great.
[23:46] Speaker 1: I think if you're an Alabama fan, you're walking through
[23:48] Speaker 1: a car wash after that one too.
[23:49] Speaker 5: My god. Yeah, I'm not a fan of either team.
[23:52] Speaker 5: I'm walking through a car wash. That was nuts.
[23:54] Speaker 4: So your final score twenty seven to twenty. Alabama finishes
[23:57] Speaker 4: the year ten and two. They are going to the
[23:59] Speaker 4: SEC Championship Game for a rematch with the Georgia Bulldogs.
[24:03] Speaker 4: That one's going to take place on Saturday at four
[24:06] Speaker 4: pm Eastern time. There was some other SEC action, but
[24:10] Speaker 4: I do want to move on and talk about some
[24:12] Speaker 4: other conferences and we can circle back to the likes
[24:15] Speaker 4: of Oklahoma and others, and maybe Old miss as well.
[24:19] Speaker 4: I don't want to lead off with the Lane Kiff
[24:21] Speaker 4: and stuff, because it feels like the whole world has
[24:23] Speaker 4: gone full Lane Kiffin. So let's give everybody a little
[24:26] Speaker 4: taste of what else took place in college football.
[24:28] Speaker 1: I'm told Lane Kiffin just had a granola bar.
[24:30] Speaker 4: Continue and then we could come back, yeah, and talk
[24:32] Speaker 4: about mister Lane Kiffin.
[24:33] Speaker 5: If that's okay with everybody else there, let's talk about
[24:37] Speaker 5: the Ohio State Michigan game.
[24:39] Speaker 4: Okay, Ohio State Michigan. Obviously, this game is a ton
[24:43] Speaker 4: of fanfare. It is known as the game Michigan had
[24:46] Speaker 4: won four in a row. This one was in ann Arbor.
[24:49] Speaker 4: There were snow flurries about the stadium that intensified as
[24:54] Speaker 4: the game were on. By the end of the game,
[24:56] Speaker 4: we had a nice little light layer. Yeah, freshly fallen
[25:01] Speaker 4: snow on the Michigan Stadium turf. It was Ohio State
[25:05] Speaker 4: finally getting over the hump, knocking off the Michigan Wolverine
[25:09] Speaker 4: s dan. We did a live stream for this one.
[25:11] Speaker 4: Had a great turnout. Appreciate everybody stopping on by. You know,
[25:15] Speaker 4: it felt like Michigan got off to a nice start.
[25:18] Speaker 4: It really did.
[25:19] Speaker 5: They weren't able to get touchdowns no.
[25:21] Speaker 1: But or touchdown singular, yeah.
[25:24] Speaker 4: Or touchdown singular. It felt like they got off to
[25:26] Speaker 4: a nice start though the crowd was into it. It
[25:27] Speaker 4: felt like they had some really early momentum. Julian saying,
[25:31] Speaker 4: second his first pass was incomplete, his second pass was
[25:34] Speaker 4: underthrown and picked off. So the crowd is going nuts.
[25:37] Speaker 4: I mean, everybody is into this game, right, But then,
[25:41] Speaker 4: slowly but surely, over the course of the next let's say,
[25:44] Speaker 4: fifty minutes or so, it just felt to me like
[25:47] Speaker 4: we sort of had a low key crock potting Yeah.
[25:58] Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
[25:58] Speaker 4: It just felt like, very slowly but surely, Ohio State
[26:01] Speaker 4: was cooking.
[26:02] Speaker 5: Yes, they were cooking.
[26:04] Speaker 4: Michigan really couldn't string enough together to build any kind
[26:07] Speaker 4: of serious momentum, and Ohio State was good enough on
[26:11] Speaker 4: the ground, They were good enough through the air. I
[26:13] Speaker 4: don't know if any element of any of this was spectacular,
[26:16] Speaker 4: but it was good enough to win. Ohio State I thought,
[26:19] Speaker 4: looked really impressive in this matchup, and they went from
[26:24] Speaker 4: early on maybe trying to play the Michigan style football.
[26:27] Speaker 5: We were on the stream talking.
[26:28] Speaker 4: It through, like are they running the same playbook as
[26:30] Speaker 4: last year's Ohio State Michigan game? Slowly graduated away from that,
[26:35] Speaker 4: started throwing balls over the top. Had some really nice
[26:38] Speaker 4: receiving days to talk about, not as much from Jeremiah Smith,
[26:41] Speaker 4: but it ended up being a really good day for
[26:42] Speaker 4: Julian saying they ran the ball effectively.
[26:46] Speaker 5: I thought a complete performance in the.
[26:48] Speaker 4: End for Ohio State on the road in Michigan Stadium
[26:51] Speaker 4: to get over the hump.
[26:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, this morning, this day had it all for Ohio State.
[26:56] Speaker 1: You mentioned the sort of draining the life out of
[26:59] Speaker 1: me Chigan drives. Near the end of the game. We
[27:02] Speaker 1: saw some big plays through the air. We saw more
[27:05] Speaker 1: of an emergence, a continued emergence from Bo Jackson. On
[27:08] Speaker 1: the ground, Julian saying remains extremely accurate outside of you know,
[27:11] Speaker 1: a couple balls here and there. Against Michigan, he was just,
[27:13] Speaker 1: you know, sort of just crazy efficient. He was a
[27:17] Speaker 1: killer for Ohio State. We had the like slight bobble
[27:21] Speaker 1: controversy for Jeremiah Smith.
[27:24] Speaker 5: I think that was a touchback.
[27:27] Speaker 1: Look, you want to go, you want to take it
[27:28] Speaker 1: to a thousand frames per second, and you want to
[27:31] Speaker 1: you want to show me exactly where the bobble was
[27:34] Speaker 1: in relation to when he crossed the goal line. I
[27:38] Speaker 1: will watch the zuppruter of the bobble. Yeah, but when
[27:43] Speaker 1: I see a dB and a defense get cooked like
[27:46] Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith cooked them, and the ball slightly shifts as
[27:49] Speaker 1: he crosses the plane, it's especially with the benefit of
[27:53] Speaker 1: watching that entire game that had basically no bearing on
[27:57] Speaker 1: the outcome. I'd love a little bit more explanation from refs.
[28:02] Speaker 1: I'd love, you know, the transparency that the ACC has
[28:05] Speaker 1: in going to the sort of command center the HQ.
[28:09] Speaker 1: But I don't know. For whatever reason that didn't bother
[28:12] Speaker 1: me so much. Wasn't rooting for Michigan or Ohio State.
[28:14] Speaker 1: I just watched a great play happen and felt like,
[28:18] Speaker 1: we don't need to litigate this in super slow mo
[28:22] Speaker 1: when I was pretty sure it wasn't going to have
[28:23] Speaker 1: a bearing on the final game. But I get if
[28:25] Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan that it's infuriating, and you have
[28:27] Speaker 1: that right. I'm not going to tell you not to
[28:28] Speaker 1: be angry. Ohio State just backed him down in the
[28:32] Speaker 1: post and dunked on him constantly in that second half.
[28:35] Speaker 1: If I were a Michigan fan, I'd also be infuriated
[28:37] Speaker 1: over whatever the non vision is and game planning and
[28:42] Speaker 1: play calling is for this offense. You have a true
[28:45] Speaker 1: freshman quarterback. I understand you're not going to have a
[28:47] Speaker 1: complicated playbook. He's not going to go through progressions like
[28:50] Speaker 1: you would for a sophomore, a junior, a senior, or
[28:52] Speaker 1: something like that it just seems like there's no rhyme
[28:55] Speaker 1: or reason for this Michigan offense. Now they're playing arguably
[28:58] Speaker 1: the best defense in America, so there's just always going
[29:00] Speaker 1: to be limitations about what you're able to do against
[29:03] Speaker 1: Ohio States defense this season, but it just seemed super
[29:08] Speaker 1: vanilla and predictable, and in a game like this, this
[29:11] Speaker 1: is the time to just really go for it, really
[29:15] Speaker 1: throw everything at Ohio State, do everything you can to
[29:17] Speaker 1: keep them off balance, especially early on in drives to
[29:20] Speaker 1: stay ahead of the sticks. And I know Michigan doesn't
[29:24] Speaker 1: have the talent that they did in these last couple
[29:26] Speaker 1: of seasons, but man, I just I felt like they
[29:30] Speaker 1: came into this game with, you know, a plane scoop
[29:33] Speaker 1: of very bland vanilla ice cream and said, Okay, top chef,
[29:37] Speaker 1: here we come. And I just I was so disappointed
[29:41] Speaker 1: with the lack of fire in sort of like intellectually
[29:45] Speaker 1: behind Michigan's offense that I something needs to change. I
[29:49] Speaker 1: don't know if it's a new coordinator. I don't know
[29:50] Speaker 1: if it's a new vision for how Like why would
[29:53] Speaker 1: a receiver transfer in? Why would Bryce Underwood stay obviously financially,
[29:58] Speaker 1: but like seems so uninspired from the Michigan end, playing
[30:02] Speaker 1: at home with a ton on the line. Maybe I'm wrong.
[30:04] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[30:04] Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.
[30:07] Speaker 4: That game plan has worked, That game plan has worked
[30:11] Speaker 4: the last couple of years against Ohio State.
[30:14] Speaker 1: Not with this team this year, with a true freshman quarterback,
[30:18] Speaker 1: with this offensive line and these limitations that they have
[30:22] Speaker 1: on offense.
[30:23] Speaker 5: I listen. It is not apples to apples.
[30:24] Speaker 4: I understand that, but it looked to me very much
[30:27] Speaker 4: like some of the Ohio State Michigan games we have
[30:30] Speaker 4: seen recently. And maybe because this Ohio State team had
[30:34] Speaker 4: a better plan.
[30:35] Speaker 5: Maybe it's just because they're better. I believe they're better.
[30:37] Speaker 4: I think most people believe they're all around a better
[30:39] Speaker 4: team than Michigan this year. Michigan is still relatively young,
[30:43] Speaker 4: but it, for whatever reason, did not work as well.
[30:46] Speaker 5: It did feel relatively uninspiring.
[30:48] Speaker 4: Bryce Underwood was eight of eighteen for just sixty three
[30:51] Speaker 4: yards passing and interception. They had a couple nice early
[30:55] Speaker 4: runs from Jordan Marshall right, but it just never felt
[30:59] Speaker 4: like they could string enough together to establish any kind
[31:03] Speaker 4: of real momentum and seriously challenge Ohio State.
[31:06] Speaker 5: Outside of the first.
[31:07] Speaker 4: Couple minutes of the game. From that point forward, it
[31:09] Speaker 4: was really all Ohio State. And I think it's a
[31:11] Speaker 4: great metaphor to say they backed them down in the
[31:16] Speaker 4: post and dunked on them.
[31:17] Speaker 1: But like a dad with an eight year old, right,
[31:20] Speaker 1: like an unfair advantage, it seemed in the second half
[31:24] Speaker 1: because there was no threat from the Michigan offense to
[31:27] Speaker 1: throw the ball consistently to receivers running intermediate routes, let
[31:32] Speaker 1: alone deep routes.
[31:33] Speaker 5: No, no, there wasn't.
[31:35] Speaker 4: And you know, on the flip side of it too,
[31:38] Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things that we discussed was, again,
[31:41] Speaker 4: you're gonna have this problem all the time.
[31:42] Speaker 5: If you're playing Ohio State, at least this year.
[31:45] Speaker 4: And I've often used the I Love Lucy comparison for
[31:48] Speaker 4: our older viewers out there who are familiar with nineteen
[31:51] Speaker 4: fifty two episodes of I Love Lucy. But the cookies
[31:55] Speaker 4: on the conveyor belt, they're just like, too many things
[31:59] Speaker 4: to keep track of on the Ohio State side, Yeah,
[32:02] Speaker 4: too many guys to cover, too many different ways that
[32:04] Speaker 4: they can kill you. And Michigan was up against that,
[32:08] Speaker 4: as all the teams have been this year. What Michigan
[32:10] Speaker 4: needed to try and do to take away some element
[32:13] Speaker 4: of it was get pressure on, Julian saying, and they couldn't.
[32:16] Speaker 4: They really did not do that. The Ohio State offensive line,
[32:19] Speaker 4: I thought did a really good job in this game
[32:20] Speaker 4: keeping him upright, giving him time. And when you give
[32:22] Speaker 4: him time, we talked about it in the build.
[32:25] Speaker 5: Up to this game.
[32:25] Speaker 4: He had a seventy nine point four percent completion percentage.
[32:28] Speaker 4: I don't know what it is on the season now.
[32:30] Speaker 4: I don't know if he broke the single season record
[32:32] Speaker 4: or not, but that's beside the point. He's been a
[32:35] Speaker 4: damn accurate passer and when you give him time to
[32:37] Speaker 4: throw to these receivers. Granted, Jeremiah Smith didn't really eat
[32:41] Speaker 4: outside of that touchdown, but the rest of the receiving
[32:44] Speaker 4: corps did a pretty good job here. Julian Sayin's going
[32:46] Speaker 4: to beat you. I think we've come to know that
[32:48] Speaker 4: about him in his first year as a starter, and
[32:50] Speaker 4: Michigan just was not able to upset his rhythm enough
[32:54] Speaker 4: to get any serious traction here on stopping this offense.
[32:56] Speaker 4: Twenty seven to nine was your final score. It wasn't
[33:00] Speaker 4: as if Ohio State went out there and put up
[33:02] Speaker 4: fifty points or anything crazy, but it still felt like
[33:05] Speaker 4: a rather complete and dominating effort from the Buckeyes as
[33:07] Speaker 4: they go on the road to win.
[33:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate coming back
[33:11] Speaker 1: from injury. This Over the course of the season, this
[33:14] Speaker 1: has been a new look offensive line that I think
[33:16] Speaker 1: has had some up and down moments relatively speaking when
[33:19] Speaker 1: you go twelve to zero in the Big Ten, But
[33:21] Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line was pretty sensational against Michigan today.
[33:26] Speaker 5: I would agree with that. Ohio State finished as the
[33:28] Speaker 5: year twelve and oh.
[33:29] Speaker 4: They are going to the Big Ten Championship to square
[33:32] Speaker 4: off against the Indiana Whoho Hoosiers DAN.
[33:35] Speaker 5: It has been a.
[33:35] Speaker 4: Charmed two year run for Indiana. They won fifty six
[33:40] Speaker 4: to three, took the Old Oaken Bucket a knockoff Perdue Dan.
[33:45] Speaker 4: Been a rough year for Purdue, but they're kind of rebooting.
[33:48] Speaker 5: Under Barry Odom.
[33:49] Speaker 4: Indiana also finishes the year twelve and oh, which means
[33:52] Speaker 4: we're going to get a one versus two Big Ten
[33:55] Speaker 4: title in Indianapolis next week on Fox at Night.
[34:00] Speaker 1: Yep. And by the way, I just saw that Lane
[34:03] Speaker 1: Kiffin is having trouble finding his iPhone charger. I don't
[34:06] Speaker 1: know if you have a breaking nose. He has found
[34:09] Speaker 1: his iPhone charger. Everything is okay. Continue.
[34:12] Speaker 5: We have had far too many Lane kiffen updates. The latest.
[34:16] Speaker 4: Now, as we're watching this at halftime or as we're
[34:19] Speaker 4: recording this, I should say, at halftime of the Notre
[34:21] Speaker 4: Dame game, Lane Kiffin's going to hold a team meeting
[34:23] Speaker 4: Sunday at nine am, whatever that means. So it sounded
[34:28] Speaker 4: as though the sticking point was Lane wants to go
[34:31] Speaker 4: to LSU, but he wants to coach ole Miss if
[34:33] Speaker 4: he can in the playoff. That obviously presents something of
[34:36] Speaker 4: a conflict of interest. Perhaps we could debate the merits
[34:39] Speaker 4: of that as we go on on.
[34:41] Speaker 1: There's a debate. I'm just saying, unless maybe you work
[34:44] Speaker 1: you're represented by the same agency as Lane Kiffin, which
[34:47] Speaker 1: apparently the people shilling for this idea are.
[34:50] Speaker 4: We can dabble in the marketplace of ideas a little
[34:53] Speaker 4: bit later on.
[34:53] Speaker 5: I want to talk about other things not named Lane Kiffin.
[34:56] Speaker 1: That's fine, let's do that.
[34:58] Speaker 5: Let's head on over to the ACC.
[35:04] Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. Holy hell, Dan, Yeah, sorry, the
[35:10] Speaker 1: ACC Colin Duke runs this bitch. Okay, continue, excuse my language.
[35:16] Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
[35:18] Speaker 4: Miami won their game earlier in the day on Saturday
[35:22] Speaker 4: over Pitt. They won thirty eight to seven. This game
[35:24] Speaker 4: was over pretty much the second it started.
[35:27] Speaker 5: It was apparent. You know, I was high on Pitt.
[35:29] Speaker 4: I've been talking up Pitt since the beginning of our
[35:32] Speaker 4: what August, end of July, I've been all in on Pitt.
[35:36] Speaker 4: I thought Pitt, the way Pitt rallied with their new quarterback,
[35:39] Speaker 4: Mason Hydel, all of that was very admirable. Yeah, definitely
[35:42] Speaker 4: agree with of course, for sure. We had made a
[35:45] Speaker 4: nice little run Boozy Turner last week and lighting up
[35:49] Speaker 4: Georgia Tech on the road putting up I went four
[35:52] Speaker 4: hundred plus yards. It was great, had a nice little run,
[35:56] Speaker 4: and I credit them for what they did. Miami came
[35:59] Speaker 4: out with an ax to grind. They were the better
[36:01] Speaker 4: team from the jump. I had this game on as
[36:04] Speaker 4: we were doing our live stream of Ohio State Michigan.
[36:07] Speaker 4: Every time I looked over, it just felt like Miami
[36:09] Speaker 4: was doing whatever the hell it wanted.
[36:11] Speaker 1: Yes, did you, by the way, did you see Mario
[36:13] Speaker 1: Cristo Ball's quote about the weather. Going into this weather, no,
[36:16] Speaker 1: I did not, so I mentioned that it was going
[36:21] Speaker 1: to be quite cold in Miami. Obviously it's not a
[36:23] Speaker 1: place that is quite cold at kickoff and Mario Cristobal said,
[36:27] Speaker 1: there's no such thing as cold weather. Just soft people.
[36:31] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that was perfect, perfect, Just soft people,
[36:37] Speaker 5: tough people.
[36:39] Speaker 4: Thirty eight to seven was your final here, and I listen,
[36:43] Speaker 4: it's hard to watch this game and come away unimpressed
[36:47] Speaker 4: with Miami. You know, there's a whole playoff conversation that's
[36:50] Speaker 4: going to take place about the Canes and should they
[36:52] Speaker 4: move up, If so, how far they will not be
[36:55] Speaker 4: playing for the ACC championship. They did not hit the
[36:58] Speaker 4: parlay that we had discussed in previous episodes, but they
[37:01] Speaker 4: want in resounding fashion, and I got to believe that
[37:03] Speaker 4: the committee is going to reward them to some extent.
[37:05] Speaker 4: To what extent, We're gonna have to wait until Tuesday
[37:07] Speaker 4: night to find that out. But these are exactly the
[37:10] Speaker 4: types of games that Miami has lost in the past.
[37:13] Speaker 4: We saw it happen last year, big game on the road,
[37:16] Speaker 4: late in the season, perhaps to close out the season.
[37:20] Speaker 5: You gotta win in resounding fashion.
[37:21] Speaker 4: You got to go out on a high note, especially
[37:24] Speaker 4: if you may not have that extra chapter in a
[37:27] Speaker 4: conference championship game.
[37:28] Speaker 5: So to that end, Miami passed the assignment.
[37:30] Speaker 4: I mean, Miami was awesome in this game against Pitt
[37:32] Speaker 4: Day again won by thirty one points on the road
[37:36] Speaker 4: against the Pitt Panthers. That is not the story though
[37:38] Speaker 4: in the ACC that might be the story with respect
[37:42] Speaker 4: to the college football playoff rankings debate that has been
[37:45] Speaker 4: ongoing now for what feels like in eternity. The bigger
[37:49] Speaker 4: talking point now is going to be this ACC championship game.
[37:52] Speaker 1: But who's baby get used to it?
[37:54] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
[37:55] Speaker 4: The Virginia Cavaliers, uh, well, in twenty seven to seven
[37:58] Speaker 4: over Virginia Tech, Virginia Tix looked like they were ready
[38:01] Speaker 4: to cash it in. Virginia Tech fully mailed it in.
[38:04] Speaker 4: Kyron drones went four of sixteen for seventy eight yards.
[38:08] Speaker 4: They were two of fourteen on third downs. Virginia Tech
[38:10] Speaker 4: was officially your one, two three cancun Keem of the week. Okay,
[38:13] Speaker 4: scrolling Black Friday deals on the side. They did not
[38:16] Speaker 4: want to be there. Even if they said they did,
[38:19] Speaker 4: they most certainly did not play that way. The Commonwealth
[38:21] Speaker 4: Cup went almost immediately to Virginia. Vaw Tech never had
[38:24] Speaker 4: anything going. Virginia's opponent in the ACC Championship game is
[38:29] Speaker 4: going to be seven and five Duke. It is going
[38:33] Speaker 4: to be the Duke Blue Devils because SMU went on
[38:36] Speaker 4: the road to the hinterlands of the California Golden Bearers, who,
[38:39] Speaker 4: by the way, just fired their coach and lost by
[38:42] Speaker 4: a thirty eight to thirty five bargain. Duke playing for
[38:46] Speaker 4: the ACC Championship against Virginia opens up the possibility of
[38:52] Speaker 4: a no bid ACC college football playoff and how likely
[38:57] Speaker 4: that is. My suspicion is that the committee is going
[38:59] Speaker 4: to roll, at least to some extent, what they saw
[39:02] Speaker 4: from Miami this week. Do they jump Notre Dame, do
[39:04] Speaker 4: they bounce Notre Dame.
[39:06] Speaker 5: There's gonna be some real.
[39:09] Speaker 4: Debate over what happens on the back end of that
[39:11] Speaker 4: college football playoff field. Yeah, but if seven to five
[39:16] Speaker 4: Duke were to win the ACC Championship, it opens up
[39:18] Speaker 4: the very real and almost likely possibility that the winner
[39:23] Speaker 4: of the American gets into the playoff. Maybe James Madison
[39:27] Speaker 4: gets into the playoff, Maybe the winner of the Mountain
[39:29] Speaker 4: West gets into the playoff, but I think it is
[39:33] Speaker 4: very likely that you would have two G six teams
[39:35] Speaker 4: getting in over the conference champion in the ACC only
[39:39] Speaker 4: if Duke wins. If Virginia wins, then it's probably a
[39:42] Speaker 4: completely different conversation. But just the fact that we are
[39:45] Speaker 4: going into conference championship week and that remains a possibility
[39:49] Speaker 4: is kind of wild.
[39:50] Speaker 5: In its own right. If I don't say so myself.
[39:54] Speaker 1: It's what it's gonna be. North Texas Tulane in the
[39:58] Speaker 1: American Championship Game. So Tulane was ranked. They were the
[40:03] Speaker 1: lone non quote unquote power conference team ranked in this
[40:08] Speaker 1: last College of Ball playoff rankings. So they're in a
[40:11] Speaker 1: position to be ranked ahead of Duke should they beat
[40:14] Speaker 1: North Texas. And I don't know, you can look at
[40:17] Speaker 1: James Madison in the A people, however instructional that might
[40:21] Speaker 1: be instructive. I don't know that might be in terms
[40:23] Speaker 1: of where the committee's heads might be at with you know,
[40:27] Speaker 1: how it relates to James Madison, who was going to
[40:29] Speaker 1: be playing for the Sun Belt next week. That's very real,
[40:33] Speaker 1: that's extremely real. And have Miami potentially get in not
[40:39] Speaker 1: even playing for the conference championship game, which we've seen
[40:43] Speaker 1: in the playoff, a team not playing for in the
[40:45] Speaker 1: fourteen version, not playing in the conference championship game, but
[40:48] Speaker 1: making it as not large but just a wild turn
[40:52] Speaker 1: of events Darien Mensa. By the way, it was a
[40:54] Speaker 1: good game for Duke, to be clear. Darren Mensa set
[40:56] Speaker 1: the single season Duke touchdown passes record with I think
[40:59] Speaker 1: twenty seven. So a good game for Duke in their rivalry,
[41:04] Speaker 1: their their comfortable rivalry win over well pseudo rivalry. They
[41:08] Speaker 1: beat up on Wake, right, But I mean, I don't know,
[41:13] Speaker 1: all things considered weird non conference portion of their schedule,
[41:16] Speaker 1: but Duke put themselves in a position and won a
[41:18] Speaker 1: bunch of ACC games.
[41:19] Speaker 4: Forty nine to thirty two was the final score. I
[41:22] Speaker 4: did see an interesting thought from our friendical hour back
[41:25] Speaker 4: from over at NBC.
[41:27] Speaker 5: Yeah, who said that the ACC should just override their
[41:29] Speaker 5: tiebreakers to put Miami through.
[41:32] Speaker 4: Put them into the conference championship as only college football
[41:36] Speaker 4: can do.
[41:37] Speaker 5: Let's do that.
[41:39] Speaker 4: Let's make it even more controversial. I endorse this plan, Nicole,
[41:43] Speaker 4: thank you for putting me.
[41:44] Speaker 1: Look, if there's if there's like a little amedman, if
[41:47] Speaker 1: there's a little is the word I'm looking for Cotta
[41:49] Speaker 1: sil Tie, I'm at the bottom of this small you've
[41:52] Speaker 1: ever heard cotta sil Never?
[41:53] Speaker 3: No.
[41:53] Speaker 1: I think my dad always threatened me with that whenever
[41:55] Speaker 1: I would do something wrong and'd be like, I'm gonna
[41:57] Speaker 1: change the will. I think it's an amendment, like if
[42:00] Speaker 1: there's like an at the discretion of the commissioner, little
[42:03] Speaker 1: fine print for the ACC to move forward with Miami. Obviously,
[42:07] Speaker 1: Miami is very clearly one of the best two teams
[42:11] Speaker 1: at this point, because, as Tie has been pointing out
[42:14] Speaker 1: all year long for a couple of years, now, we'll
[42:16] Speaker 1: know more by December. Tie, And here we are, here.
[42:20] Speaker 5: We knocking on the door almost in December. Baby, it's
[42:23] Speaker 5: gonna be December next week.
[42:25] Speaker 1: I can say with a good degree of confidence that
[42:28] Speaker 1: Miami is arguably one of the best two teams in
[42:31] Speaker 1: the ACC. How about that.
[42:33] Speaker 4: I'll go with that. Yeah, okay, I'll go with that.
[42:37] Speaker 4: Not much defense in the Duke Wake game. I was
[42:39] Speaker 4: watching that one because I was just curious to see
[42:42] Speaker 4: if Duke could obviously get the win or if Wake
[42:45] Speaker 4: could mount the charge. Because if Wake were to win
[42:47] Speaker 4: that game, it would have been what nine and three
[42:49] Speaker 4: finished the year nine and.
[42:49] Speaker 1: Three which would have been a great story.
[42:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, an incredible story, but four turnovers for Wake, they
[42:54] Speaker 4: had a bunch of fumbles. It just again they couldn't
[42:58] Speaker 4: really stop Duke, as he said dariy Man, So it
[43:00] Speaker 4: sort of went off in that game. Forty nine to
[43:02] Speaker 4: thirty two. Is your final again? Duke is going to
[43:04] Speaker 4: be playing for the conference championship again. We got a
[43:07] Speaker 4: bunch of other games here, Yes, we discussed momentarily, but
[43:11] Speaker 4: let's head on over to the Big twelve and highlight
[43:14] Speaker 4: what went down over there. We've got our conference championship
[43:19] Speaker 4: games set as Texas Tech against BYU as opposed to
[43:23] Speaker 4: many of the other games that needed Saturday's action to
[43:27] Speaker 4: tell us what's going to happen.
[43:29] Speaker 5: Who's going to play? When are they going to play?
[43:31] Speaker 4: We knew this one going into Saturday because Arizona State
[43:35] Speaker 4: lost the Territorial Cup on Friday night. Because of that,
[43:39] Speaker 4: it automatically put Texas Tech in BYU threw.
[43:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going.
[43:44] Speaker 4: To have Texas Tech BYU part DUA coming up next weekend.
[43:48] Speaker 1: Kind of the most other than I guess the Territorial Cup,
[43:51] Speaker 1: which was exciting for a stretch, it wasn't great offensively
[43:55] Speaker 1: for four quarters, but kind of the most boring conference
[44:00] Speaker 1: in a good way. I say that as a complement,
[44:02] Speaker 1: like the teams that needed to take care of business
[44:03] Speaker 1: did so emphatically. A slow star for BYU, but otherwise
[44:07] Speaker 1: like kind of a good day for a lot of
[44:09] Speaker 1: teams to finish out their their schedules. Strong.
[44:12] Speaker 4: Let me let me get something off my chest here
[44:13] Speaker 4: for a second, if I could please. How long has
[44:16] Speaker 4: Brett Yormark.
[44:17] Speaker 5: Been running this conference?
[44:18] Speaker 3: Now?
[44:18] Speaker 5: How long has it been a couple of years?
[44:20] Speaker 1: Something like a few two three years?
[44:22] Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember came over with much fanfare from rock
[44:24] Speaker 4: Nation whatever it was.
[44:25] Speaker 5: Remember it was working with Jay Z.
[44:27] Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, August first, twenty twenty two.
[44:29] Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two.
[44:31] Speaker 4: We've been putting up with a lot of crap from
[44:33] Speaker 4: this guy, and by that I mean just weird ideas, Okay.
[44:36] Speaker 1: Right, right, weird.
[44:37] Speaker 5: He's got a lot of good ideas, to be clear, Yeah,
[44:40] Speaker 5: many of.
[44:40] Speaker 4: Which I have supported every now and again. Though there's
[44:45] Speaker 4: a little too much Tony Petiti in him, all right,
[44:47] Speaker 4: where he comes up with something and he just he's
[44:49] Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna float.
[44:50] Speaker 5: It out there.
[44:52] Speaker 4: Sure, if he would put some of his time and
[44:56] Speaker 4: energy into fixing the Big Twelve's rivalry week instead of
[45:00] Speaker 4: trying to play games in I don't know, Brazil.
[45:03] Speaker 1: And Ireland this year, yeah.
[45:04] Speaker 5: Wherever the hell.
[45:06] Speaker 4: If you would put a little bit more elbow grease
[45:09] Speaker 4: into fixing this week, the conference would be better for it.
[45:12] Speaker 4: Because we only had the Territorial Cup. Yeah, that was
[45:15] Speaker 4: all we had. We didn't have a Sunflower Showdown. We
[45:17] Speaker 4: didn't have farm again. That one was over in Ireland
[45:20] Speaker 4: early in the year.
[45:21] Speaker 1: We used to have Bedlum. Yeah, we didn't have Bedloe.
[45:23] Speaker 5: We don't have the Revivalry. We didn't have the Holy
[45:25] Speaker 5: War this week. Again.
[45:27] Speaker 4: Territorial Cup was nice. But take some time in the
[45:31] Speaker 4: offseason see what you can. Talk to your member institutions
[45:35] Speaker 4: and see if there is some way to get in
[45:37] Speaker 4: on this party. Because I hate to see the most
[45:41] Speaker 4: exciting conference, the Big Twelve, that is always in fux,
[45:44] Speaker 4: that is always up in the air, that is always
[45:46] Speaker 4: a ton of fun to watch the other thirteen weeks
[45:49] Speaker 4: of the season.
[45:50] Speaker 5: I hate to see them be completely left out.
[45:53] Speaker 4: And we got games like byu UCF. That's not a rivalry,
[45:58] Speaker 4: I know, but we get those special games games when
[46:00] Speaker 4: perhaps other conferences are having you know, are deciding to
[46:04] Speaker 4: play Mercer right that that the Big twelve is finding
[46:08] Speaker 4: space for themselves to play some of their bigger matchups
[46:11] Speaker 4: when perhaps we have some down matchups otherwise on the schedule.
[46:15] Speaker 1: I don't hate it.
[46:17] Speaker 4: TCU Cincinnati really got the blood flowing for you.
[46:21] Speaker 1: It was a good game for TCU's offense. Complete game
[46:23] Speaker 1: for TCU.
[46:24] Speaker 5: Shut up, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
[46:26] Speaker 1: Brandon Sorosby is about to take like Texas tex money
[46:29] Speaker 1: next year. Who knows.
[46:31] Speaker 5: It was a good game for TCU.
[46:33] Speaker 4: They had two thirty eight on the ground to go
[46:35] Speaker 4: along with three hundred yards for Josh Hoover.
[46:38] Speaker 1: Anyway, listen, they had a tough schedule and they finished
[46:41] Speaker 1: what eight and four this year and four?
[46:42] Speaker 5: That's the end of my rant.
[46:43] Speaker 4: Brett, you or Mark, I know you don't listen, but
[46:45] Speaker 4: if you do, please see if you can fix this.
[46:47] Speaker 4: Texas Tech one forty nine to ZIP over West Virginia.
[46:51] Speaker 4: They left no doubt and BYU won by twenty over UCF.
[46:55] Speaker 4: UCF jumped out to an early lead. They were up
[46:57] Speaker 4: fourteen zip in this one, but then by you sort
[47:00] Speaker 4: of woke up. They outscored them forty one to seven.
[47:03] Speaker 4: The rest of the way, you seef just could not run.
[47:06] Speaker 4: They had forty two yards and nineteen carries. David Jackson
[47:10] Speaker 4: had an okay game. It's year one, had some fun motes,
[47:14] Speaker 4: but I think all things considered, UCF had a better
[47:17] Speaker 4: year than many had expected.
[47:18] Speaker 5: But they were no match for BYU in this game.
[47:20] Speaker 1: No, Yeah, bear Bachmeyer lit them up.
[47:22] Speaker 5: How do we feel about this rematch next week.
[47:26] Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give it some thought, but I'm
[47:28] Speaker 1: not sure what Texas Tech has shown in terms of
[47:32] Speaker 1: a weakness that can be exploited in a more dramatic
[47:36] Speaker 1: way than what BYU wasn't able to do last time
[47:39] Speaker 1: they played. But I'm going to give it some thought.
[47:41] Speaker 1: I'm going to rewatch some BYU and see if I
[47:43] Speaker 1: feel differently.
[47:45] Speaker 4: Okay, now that we have covered the tops of the conferences,
[47:49] Speaker 4: let's go back through. Let's make a second pass here,
[47:53] Speaker 4: and let's talk about some other games that had importance.
[47:57] Speaker 1: There's a bunch of playoff teams potentially who played we
[48:00] Speaker 1: haven't discussed.
[48:01] Speaker 4: I will circle back to the SEC now because the
[48:03] Speaker 4: one that I was watching intently and the game that
[48:07] Speaker 4: again for me just speaking as somebody who is a
[48:10] Speaker 4: Notre Dame fan. Well, no, Notre Dame fan. Oklahoma seventeen
[48:14] Speaker 4: LSU thirteen was a game that I was yelling about. However,
[48:20] Speaker 4: you thought this game was gonna go, it was at
[48:26] Speaker 4: least twenty five percent uglier. Yeah, this was a horrible
[48:32] Speaker 4: viewing experience this game. It felt like both schools joined
[48:35] Speaker 4: the Big Ten West from twenty seventeen from twenty seventy.
[48:40] Speaker 4: I hated this game. I hate watched the whole thing.
[48:44] Speaker 5: Huh. It was ugly, but Oklahoma got it done.
[48:48] Speaker 4: Three picks for John Mattier. He came through in the clutch,
[48:50] Speaker 4: He had the big throw late. It was really just
[48:52] Speaker 4: two big plays for Oklahoma. Dan They had the long
[48:55] Speaker 4: catch and run to Dion Burks earlier in the fourth quarter,
[48:59] Speaker 4: and then the busted coverage the fifty eight yard touchdown
[49:02] Speaker 4: pass from Matier to Isaiah Stana with four minutes left
[49:05] Speaker 4: that gave them the late lead. Yeah, but it was
[49:08] Speaker 4: a mistake prone game for Oklahoma. They're going to end
[49:12] Speaker 4: up hosting a playoff game now. I think, unless the
[49:16] Speaker 4: committee decides they should be jumped by some of the
[49:18] Speaker 4: teams behind them. But I and I hate to do
[49:21] Speaker 4: this because they just won and this was like a
[49:23] Speaker 4: moment of triumph. They end up going ten to two
[49:25] Speaker 4: against an incredible schedule. Yeah, I mean, there is a
[49:28] Speaker 4: lot to like about Oklahoma, so we should probably start
[49:31] Speaker 4: there before I give my other thoughts on the.
[49:33] Speaker 1: Seat Michigan and then you know, scheduled a big non
[49:36] Speaker 1: conference game, right Michigan at home?
[49:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a very very big moment for the
[49:40] Speaker 4: Oklahoma Sooners, and I do not want to be the
[49:42] Speaker 4: guy that throws cold water on it right away.
[49:44] Speaker 1: Okay, pepe Bama?
[49:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, So what say you about what we saw from Oklahoma,
[49:49] Speaker 4: not just in this game, but throughout the course of
[49:52] Speaker 4: the season. Has this team gotten better to you as
[49:55] Speaker 4: we have watched them over the last six weeks or so.
[49:57] Speaker 1: I enjoy that they're self aware. I enjoy that they
[50:00] Speaker 1: know how they have to win and steer into that
[50:03] Speaker 1: they know that they have to win by abusing teams
[50:07] Speaker 1: on defense, forcing mistakes, giving themselves short fields, and hopefully
[50:12] Speaker 1: setting up John Mattier to not throw potentially backbreaking interceptions, yes,
[50:17] Speaker 1: which he can do and has done this season, sometimes
[50:21] Speaker 1: with a working hands, sometimes less. So you know what
[50:25] Speaker 1: I in rewatching this game. I watched it on and
[50:27] Speaker 1: off when other games were on, because I want to say,
[50:30] Speaker 1: this game was happening while Oregon Washington was going, so
[50:32] Speaker 1: I was obviously I had a more focused eye on
[50:34] Speaker 1: that one. But something I came back to was like, man,
[50:39] Speaker 1: it wasn't that long a though, that both of these
[50:41] Speaker 1: long ago, that both of these schools had incredible quarterbacks repeatedly.
[50:48] Speaker 1: And He's like, I'm watching an Oklahoma LSU game, and
[50:51] Speaker 1: this is the quarterback play I'm getting with John Mattier
[50:54] Speaker 1: and MVB.
[50:55] Speaker 4: The sen tools of Matier had three picks, but he
[50:57] Speaker 4: had good numbers otherwise. He did come through in the clubs.
[51:00] Speaker 4: They were bad picks, though, Man, they were bad picks.
[51:02] Speaker 4: But in the end, in the end, he did what
[51:05] Speaker 4: he does and he got the job done. He came
[51:07] Speaker 4: through in the clutch and ended up winning the game,
[51:09] Speaker 4: which is all that matters, you know.
[51:11] Speaker 1: And I mean, he is he's your what, he's your
[51:13] Speaker 1: Duff Beer quarterback of the Year. He is the cause
[51:16] Speaker 1: of and solution for all of Oklahoma's offensive products.
[51:19] Speaker 5: I don't think that's fair.
[51:21] Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, the offensive line still isn't great.
[51:23] Speaker 1: The receivers still aren't consistent. The running game came and
[51:26] Speaker 1: went this season. But if you're capable of throwing three
[51:29] Speaker 1: interceptions in a big game and those were on him,
[51:32] Speaker 1: I mean there was a tip ball that I think
[51:34] Speaker 1: Harold Perkins ran back almost all the way. But he's
[51:38] Speaker 1: very good. He makes plays, he's you know, maximizing what
[51:42] Speaker 1: the Oklahoma offense has. But at the same time he
[51:47] Speaker 1: has clunkers, and so there were opportunities for MVB and
[51:51] Speaker 1: the LS. Like, he just was late, he's short. He
[51:54] Speaker 1: was late on some open passes that you know, the
[51:57] Speaker 1: one in the end zone, he had an open tight
[51:58] Speaker 1: end running and just was and got picked I think
[52:00] Speaker 1: by Peyton Bowen. This quarterback play was not incredible in
[52:05] Speaker 1: this game. I was impressed with the LSU defense, honestly
[52:08] Speaker 1: that as a team, given everything that's ongoing behind the scenes,
[52:14] Speaker 1: given everything that happened behind the scenes this season, like
[52:17] Speaker 1: still played pretty hard, ran the ball decently well at times.
[52:20] Speaker 1: But it was a winnable moment for them. But Oklahoma is,
[52:25] Speaker 1: like the consummate winning, is a skill team, it seems,
[52:29] Speaker 1: given their schedule this.
[52:30] Speaker 5: Year, well listen, and that deserves some praise.
[52:32] Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think Brent vannables the way he pieces
[52:35] Speaker 4: roster together and especially against his schedule. I was, you know,
[52:38] Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody earlier about this, and it's
[52:42] Speaker 4: it's sort of mind blowing now in hindsight, thinking back
[52:46] Speaker 4: to the conversations we had when we previewed the SEC
[52:49] Speaker 4: in August, and I remember looking at Oklahoma's schedule and thinking,
[52:53] Speaker 4: there is no way, there is no way, even if
[52:56] Speaker 4: they get fifty percent better, there is no way they
[53:00] Speaker 4: are ripping through this and they're going to have a
[53:03] Speaker 4: real shot at playing for anything of real merit. You know,
[53:06] Speaker 4: Bowl game for sure, but the playoff, you know, on
[53:09] Speaker 4: the fringes of the SEC conference discussion, no chance. But
[53:13] Speaker 4: they found a way to do it. So I credit
[53:15] Speaker 4: them for that. I just don't think they're that good.
[53:17] Speaker 4: Dan Well, I just don't think they're that good. I
[53:20] Speaker 4: think they're very.
[53:21] Speaker 5: Limited on offense. I think the defense is legit.
[53:24] Speaker 4: There's no denying that is a very very good defense,
[53:27] Speaker 4: and that has clearly taken them places.
[53:30] Speaker 5: But I don't think they're that good.
[53:32] Speaker 4: And when it comes time to pick against them in
[53:34] Speaker 4: the playoff, I will.
[53:35] Speaker 1: The offense, once again, we've hammered this. I've hammered this.
[53:38] Speaker 1: Did not score thirty points in an SEC game this year. No,
[53:41] Speaker 1: And they're going to the playoff.
[53:43] Speaker 5: They're going to the playoff, and they deserve to be
[53:44] Speaker 5: the playoffs.
[53:45] Speaker 1: That's just the degree of difficulty. That's a high wire act.
[53:48] Speaker 4: I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I'm just saying,
[53:49] Speaker 4: once they get there, I'm not picking them to win.
[53:51] Speaker 1: Right, Okay, fair enough.
[53:54] Speaker 4: All Miss also won. This game was of course clouded
[53:58] Speaker 4: by all the Lane Kiff and stuff. We get a
[54:00] Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin update, Dan.
[54:02] Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I'm told there was a call to Lane
[54:05] Speaker 1: Kiffin's house. It was an HVAC repair guy. They were
[54:08] Speaker 1: trying to schedule something.
[54:10] Speaker 4: But he is which house, the one that he's got
[54:12] Speaker 4: now in Oxford or the one that he might buy
[54:14] Speaker 4: in Baton Rouge.
[54:16] Speaker 1: Oh, it's the Oxford house. So he's unsure how to
[54:19] Speaker 1: proceed because you know, it does get a little chilly
[54:21] Speaker 1: in the winter. Yeah.
[54:22] Speaker 4: Thirty eight to nineteen, Old Miss doubles up on Mississippi State.
[54:28] Speaker 5: Mississippi State was feistyep for a bit.
[54:31] Speaker 4: In this game, but eventually, through the course of sixty minutes,
[54:33] Speaker 4: it was clear that Old Miss was a better team.
[54:35] Speaker 4: They just gradually pulled away. I don't have my boat
[54:39] Speaker 4: race sound. I probably should have been more prepared, but
[54:41] Speaker 4: this felt like a boat racing to me.
[54:43] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[54:44] Speaker 1: Eventually it was Trinidad Chambliss sort of an up and
[54:48] Speaker 1: down day. Made some huge throws, missed some throws, but
[54:51] Speaker 1: what he was able to do through the air. Kiwan
[54:53] Speaker 1: Lacy obviously paced this one, especially in the second half.
[54:58] Speaker 1: I want to say Trey Wallace had a couple of
[54:59] Speaker 1: big ca de Jehn stribbling, the Oklahoma State transfer had
[55:02] Speaker 1: a couple of big moments. It was just very clear
[55:06] Speaker 1: that Ole miss had more in this second half, as
[55:10] Speaker 1: they quite literally ran away with it. It was a
[55:12] Speaker 1: game though, it was what twenty one to thirteen in
[55:14] Speaker 1: the third quarter, but it was just sort of an
[55:17] Speaker 1: again again, again again and Mississippi State pretty clearly ran
[55:21] Speaker 1: out of gas.
[55:22] Speaker 5: They ran out of gas.
[55:23] Speaker 4: It was a really good game for Trinidad Chamblis, who
[55:25] Speaker 4: had three fifty nine and four touchdowns. It did see
[55:28] Speaker 4: some rumors out there that if Lane decides he's going
[55:30] Speaker 4: to go elsewhere, Trinidad Chambliss could follow him. I think
[55:34] Speaker 4: he can petition the NC DOUBLEA and still get another
[55:36] Speaker 4: year of eligibility if memory serves So, there was.
[55:39] Speaker 1: A Camaro Taylor game, by the way for.
[55:41] Speaker 5: To Mario Taylor Mississippi State.
[55:43] Speaker 4: I thought had some nice flashes in this game that
[55:47] Speaker 4: left me feeling pretty encouraged about what his.
[55:49] Speaker 5: Future could look like.
[55:50] Speaker 4: So ran, well, yeah, I mean, there are a lot
[55:52] Speaker 4: of talking points that I think are going to come
[55:54] Speaker 4: out of this one, really on both sides of it.
[55:56] Speaker 4: Chief among them, though, is going to be the kiff
[55:58] Speaker 4: and stuff, and we'll have to wait to see what transpires. Look,
[56:02] Speaker 4: we're recording this late on Sunday night. We don't have
[56:05] Speaker 4: an update other than to say there's going to be
[56:07] Speaker 4: a team meeting. My hunch Dan is that he is gone.
[56:11] Speaker 4: Otherwise they wouldn't have dragged this out as long as
[56:13] Speaker 4: they have. It sounds as though the sticking point was
[56:16] Speaker 4: he wants to coach him in the playoff. I don't
[56:20] Speaker 4: know how you coached two teams at once. That could
[56:23] Speaker 4: be kind of hard, especially.
[56:26] Speaker 1: Is it weird? Do you think that's strange? If the
[56:29] Speaker 1: LSU coach is just in the Ole miss facility, everyone.
[56:32] Speaker 4: Understand where he's coming from. I understand where he's coming from.
[56:36] Speaker 4: But it is hard when you reach this level of
[56:42] Speaker 4: the absolute heights of the coaching profession to try and
[56:45] Speaker 4: get your cake and eat it too. And I'm not
[56:47] Speaker 4: sure how that's going to go over.
[56:48] Speaker 1: Is there somebody I don't know about who's making him
[56:51] Speaker 1: take the LSU job? Is that somebody that is he's
[56:55] Speaker 1: being held against his will and being forced to take
[56:57] Speaker 1: this job. He could just coach Miss. He could just
[57:01] Speaker 1: coach ole Miss in the college Football Playoff and continue
[57:04] Speaker 1: to be their coach for double digit millions of dollars
[57:08] Speaker 1: and an enormous budget to recruit players via the portal.
[57:11] Speaker 1: He could do that. He might still do that.
[57:14] Speaker 5: This is Lane Kiddy.
[57:15] Speaker 1: He's not, but I'm saying nobody's making him leave. He
[57:18] Speaker 1: could coach the playoff and be happy.
[57:21] Speaker 5: He absolutely could.
[57:22] Speaker 4: Look, we'll get more clarity on this, and as I
[57:25] Speaker 4: said earlier, there's going to be a team meeting bright
[57:28] Speaker 4: and early on Sunday morning. There's also going to be
[57:31] Speaker 4: plenty of other coaching news out there. I don't even
[57:33] Speaker 4: think that's a debate. So we will do our part
[57:36] Speaker 4: here to keep you up to speed on the situation.
[57:40] Speaker 4: At a minimum, you can listen to the Tuesday episode
[57:42] Speaker 4: where I think we're going to recap a bunch of
[57:44] Speaker 4: this stuff and talk through playoff scenarios and a bunch
[57:46] Speaker 4: of other odds and ends throughout the course of I
[57:50] Speaker 4: guess the next forty eight hours what transpires. Yeah, Ole
[57:53] Speaker 4: miss with a big win again. Thirty eight to nineteen
[57:56] Speaker 4: was your final. The only other game here that I
[57:58] Speaker 4: wanted to pay a little bit more attention to is
[58:02] Speaker 4: Vanderbilt commodore s Dan.
[58:03] Speaker 1: In the SEC.
[58:04] Speaker 4: To be clear, Yeah, in the SEC Vandy wins forty
[58:07] Speaker 4: five to twenty four over Tennessee on the road. Yes,
[58:11] Speaker 4: they outscored Tennessee twenty four to three in the second half.
[58:14] Speaker 4: A ton of offense for both teams, with Diego Pavia.
[58:17] Speaker 5: Again goes off.
[58:19] Speaker 4: Guy's incredible. He is incredible, And this was an incredible win.
[58:25] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was super impressive. He goes over one
[58:28] Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing, Cedric Alexander goes over one hundred yards rushing,
[58:32] Speaker 1: throws a couple of bad picks. I was trying to
[58:36] Speaker 1: think of the word that best encapsulates in my mind
[58:38] Speaker 1: when I watched Diego Pavia. I mean, Tennessee's defense hasn't
[58:41] Speaker 1: been great this season. Obviously, they've dealt with a ton
[58:44] Speaker 1: of attrition and it's affected the way that they've been
[58:47] Speaker 1: able to perform against the better teams on their schedule.
[58:49] Speaker 1: Diego Pavi is a menace. No, he is just a menace.
[58:54] Speaker 1: He's horrendous to try and bring down. Keeps making play
[58:57] Speaker 1: after play and high leverage moments. Did so again today
[59:01] Speaker 1: and Vandy really, I mean defensively, that's been the question
[59:05] Speaker 1: right that they allowed what they allowed to Auburn. But
[59:09] Speaker 1: I mean Deshaun was it? Who was it? The Tennessee
[59:13] Speaker 1: Backs made plays in that first half. It was Deshaun
[59:15] Speaker 1: Bishoh excuse me, Yeah, but the great I think he
[59:18] Speaker 1: sort of hurtled and had a great run for a touchdown.
[59:22] Speaker 1: The Vanderbilt defense really clamped in the second half. And
[59:26] Speaker 1: that's been the question mark, right with what they allowed
[59:28] Speaker 1: against Texas and Austin, what they allowed against Auburn when
[59:31] Speaker 1: Ashton Daniels took over, and for them to do this
[59:33] Speaker 1: and make the adjustments they did against Joey Aguilar and Tennessee,
[59:37] Speaker 1: that answered an interesting question to me about like what
[59:40] Speaker 1: Vanderbilt can look like against a decent team that can
[59:44] Speaker 1: move the ball pretty consistently. And Vandy came to play,
[59:47] Speaker 1: and this was on the road too.
[59:48] Speaker 4: This was on the road, and look, Pavia is a
[59:52] Speaker 4: really interesting character in the college football.
[59:55] Speaker 5: Story over the last two year.
[59:56] Speaker 2: Men.
[59:57] Speaker 5: Yeah, he is a menace.
[59:58] Speaker 4: He is the type of guy where if he is
[1:00:01] Speaker 4: on your team, you love him. If he is not
[1:00:03] Speaker 4: on your team and you are playing his team, you
[1:00:06] Speaker 4: hate his guts. Yes, he is that type of guy.
[1:00:09] Speaker 4: But he is a menace and he does deserve to
[1:00:12] Speaker 4: be in New York. I don't know if he deserves
[1:00:14] Speaker 4: the Heisman. We can have that discussion on Tuesday, but
[1:00:17] Speaker 4: I think he absolutely earned his way to New York. Yeah,
[1:00:21] Speaker 4: absolutely no question about that. Any other thoughts around the
[1:00:26] Speaker 4: sec DAN. We had a few other games. We had
[1:00:27] Speaker 4: Miszoo knocking off Arkansas thirty one seventeen. We had Florida
[1:00:32] Speaker 4: knocking off Florida State by a forty to twenty one score.
[1:00:36] Speaker 5: Any of those moved the needle for you.
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: I just didn't really watch much of those specific games.
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: I did see that Missoo ran all over Arkansas Boprabulah
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: through for like thirteen feet and they won by double digits.
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: So that was good for Miszoo. That's a game I'm
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: gonna watch Sunday or Monday morning sccwise. Now, I did
[1:00:54] Speaker 1: not watch Florida Florida State, and I saw, like right
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: away Louisville just absolutely smoked Kentucky.
[1:01:02] Speaker 5: Oh my god.
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: And it's inter conference, But like, kind of good for
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: Clemson for winning this game against South Carolina at least
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: ended on a high note after a disappointing season, especially
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: the start of it. So yeah, I watched a little
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: bit of that on the second screen, a little bit
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: of Miller Moss coming back and playing well. Obviously Louisville's
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: dealt with a ton of injuries as well that they're
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: able to close the season like they did. So no, no,
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: no in depth thoughts in this moment. Didn't watch a ton.
[1:01:30] Speaker 4: My takeaway after what we saw this evening is that
[1:01:33] Speaker 4: if Kentucky had played Virginia Tech, that game would still
[1:01:37] Speaker 4: be in overtime with the zero to zero score.
[1:01:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, those are.
[1:01:41] Speaker 4: Two teams that did not look at all like they
[1:01:43] Speaker 4: wanted to play this week, and I think the result
[1:01:46] Speaker 4: showed it.
[1:01:48] Speaker 5: That's pretty much my closing thought there.
[1:01:51] Speaker 4: You mentioned Louisville winning forty one to zip over Kentucky
[1:01:55] Speaker 4: over in the ACC you mentioned the Clemson game, but
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: we also had NC State knocking off UNCE. We mentioned
[1:02:02] Speaker 4: briefly that Cal knocked off SMU. That game was kind
[1:02:07] Speaker 4: of wild, and Boston College gets the win over Syracuse
[1:02:10] Speaker 4: thirty four to twelve.
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: I think we have some big ten things to talk about.
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: I've I've given you an hour and three minutes thus far,
[1:02:19] Speaker 1: ish and we haven't even mentioned Oregon Washington.
[1:02:22] Speaker 5: Fine, Fine, let's talk about Oregon wall.
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned Matt Ruhle being paid four hundred million
[1:02:29] Speaker 1: dollars to continually lose to Iowa.
[1:02:33] Speaker 5: Fine, let's go there. Okay, what do you got for me?
[1:02:37] Speaker 1: Uh? Good game, back and forth, game a little bit.
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: Oregon kind of controlled things on the scoreboard, but were
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: they were unable to sort of take advantage of opportunities
[1:02:46] Speaker 1: to open this up, in large part because Washington played
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: the run really really well. Organ was not able to
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: get anything going on the ground and Washington themselves were
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: able to get I think it was Adam Mohammad, it
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: wasn't even Jonah Coleman. Adam Haha look like he's been
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: playing for like the Chargers for four years. Yeah, he
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: looked like an NFL running back. He has not been
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: a huge deal for Washington this season. I think he
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: was a Jetfish recruit at Arizona who transferred up. But
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: he looked terrific, you know, slamming into the Oregon defensive
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: front and succeeding a ton. Dante Moore had to win
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: this game because they took away the run and he
[1:03:23] Speaker 1: had to win this game with Kenyon Sadik with a
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: couple of drops and not a huge factor and obviously
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: no to Corean Moore and Gary Bryant junior. They're numbers
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: one and two wide receivers and made some incredible throws.
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: The Oregon defense came up big with some interceptions. One
[1:03:40] Speaker 1: of them was game ceiling. They hounded Demon Williams, who
[1:03:44] Speaker 1: seems to be untackleable maybe like he did an incredible
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: job evading the Oregon pass rush and defenders. But Washington
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: just didn't have the pop on offense, didn't have the
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: rhythm on offense other than what they were doing on
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: the ground for stretches in this game to finish drives.
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: Jedfish teams have notoriously been disappointing, to say the least
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: in the red zone, and it continued today and Orgon
[1:04:09] Speaker 1: got a ton out of their kicker. Your your favorite
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: name in the sport, Atticus Sappington.
[1:04:13] Speaker 4: Can't be a real name, seems to be, but I
[1:04:16] Speaker 4: can't confirm it that that can't be real.
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: Malik Benson was huge in this one. He had a
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: long touchdown catch. The Florida State transfer Jamari Johnson a
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: very good game tight end number two behind Kenyon Sadik,
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: and Oregon protected Dante More pretty well all things considered
[1:04:32] Speaker 1: with how their offensive line is beat up, and they
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: will secure somewhere between like the five and seven seed.
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: It seems right.
[1:04:41] Speaker 4: It does, and I do think depending on what the
[1:04:44] Speaker 4: committee ends up doing, and we talked about this on
[1:04:47] Speaker 4: one of the episodes from.
[1:04:48] Speaker 5: This past week.
[1:04:49] Speaker 4: Though it looked for a minute like the Solidver Bowl
[1:04:52] Speaker 4: would be off, I think there are real possibilities now
[1:04:56] Speaker 4: that the solid For Bowl between Notre Dame and Oregon
[1:04:58] Speaker 4: could be back on.
[1:04:59] Speaker 5: It depends in the seating.
[1:05:01] Speaker 4: I do think there's a real chance here that or
[1:05:03] Speaker 4: Penn State, Penn State's not going to be playing in
[1:05:05] Speaker 4: the playoff, that Notre Dame is going to get bumped
[1:05:08] Speaker 4: down to like number ten. Yeah, And if that's the case,
[1:05:12] Speaker 4: then it could open up the door for potentially hmmm,
[1:05:18] Speaker 4: sOliver Bowl in the first round between Notre Dame and Oregon.
[1:05:20] Speaker 4: Oregon would likely host that game, but I think it's.
[1:05:24] Speaker 1: As opposed to who as opposed to the Tokyo Dome,
[1:05:27] Speaker 1: as supposed to the I think Oregon. That's the five
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: seed playing against the ten. Yes, very interesting. I hope
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: we can watch it together in some way because we've
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment for seventeen eighteen years now. Yeah,
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: it'll be very interesting if Notre Dame makes the playoff,
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: which seems like they are as a conversation for another day,
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: but I'm hopeful that we get that matchup at some point.
[1:05:51] Speaker 5: So I am as well. Penn State and Rutgers is
[1:05:54] Speaker 5: kind of nuts in the big time.
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Penn State found themselves a quarterback.
[1:05:59] Speaker 4: I guess it might be eighth in caliak manis. But
[1:06:05] Speaker 4: Penn State won this game over Rutgers forty to thirty six.
[1:06:07] Speaker 4: Is a wild game. They beat Rutgers for the eighteenth
[1:06:10] Speaker 4: straight time. This game featured an absolutely absurd scoop and
[1:06:13] Speaker 4: score that gave Penn State the lead for good in
[1:06:15] Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. So eighth in kliak Mannis drops back
[1:06:19] Speaker 4: to pass for Rutgers straight up drops the ball, just
[1:06:23] Speaker 4: drops the ball. Amari Cooper or Mari Campbell, excuse me,
[1:06:27] Speaker 4: Marik Cooper, former receiver, different guy. Mark Campbell, the linebacker
[1:06:31] Speaker 4: for Penn State who's had a really good year after
[1:06:34] Speaker 4: he transferred up from North Carolina, picks it up, run
[1:06:36] Speaker 4: sixty one yards for a touchdown that gives Penn State
[1:06:39] Speaker 4: the lead in the fourth quarter. Otherwise, it was a
[1:06:41] Speaker 4: really good day for Kateron Allen had a career day
[1:06:43] Speaker 4: on the ground to twenty six is high for a
[1:06:46] Speaker 4: single game. Five hundred and nine total yards for Penn
[1:06:49] Speaker 4: State's offense. Friends were texting me throughout this one saying
[1:06:54] Speaker 4: fire Terry Smith fired Jim Knowles because the defense did
[1:06:58] Speaker 4: not play a very good game State, but we did
[1:07:00] Speaker 4: see a little bit more out of them on offense.
[1:07:03] Speaker 4: Penn State, by the way, has been relatively anonymous in
[1:07:06] Speaker 4: the coaching search.
[1:07:07] Speaker 5: We've been hearing a lot about these other.
[1:07:09] Speaker 4: Schools, about the likes of LSU, about the likes of Florida,
[1:07:13] Speaker 4: even the likes of Arkansas. What would Ole Miss potentially
[1:07:17] Speaker 4: do Auburn? Might they promote from within haven't heard a
[1:07:21] Speaker 4: whole lot about the Penn State Nitney Lyons and I
[1:07:24] Speaker 4: genuinely have no idea which.
[1:07:25] Speaker 5: Direction they're going to go. We've all heard rumors at
[1:07:27] Speaker 5: this point.
[1:07:28] Speaker 4: My hunch is that we're going to get some clarity
[1:07:30] Speaker 4: on that one before long, probably before Monday. But that
[1:07:35] Speaker 4: is sort of the elephant in the room right now
[1:07:37] Speaker 4: in the Penn State community.
[1:07:39] Speaker 1: I mean, Deon Sanders is right there, No, Deon Sanders
[1:07:44] Speaker 1: right there, Dan Hawkins, let's just go through Colorida and yeah,
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: let's go through the coaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Penn State
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: is Rutgers esque this year, and it's better to beat
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: Rutgers than to lose to Rutgers. Penn State is going bowling.
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: They gave their all for Terry Smith and needed all
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: of it to beat Rutgers, and winning is better than losing.
[1:08:05] Speaker 4: Once again, any other thoughts here on what went down
[1:08:09] Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. We had usc winning the Victory
[1:08:12] Speaker 4: Belt twenty nine to ten over UCLA.
[1:08:15] Speaker 5: We had an or.
[1:08:18] Speaker 4: A snowball game right between both Minnesota and Wisconsin as
[1:08:22] Speaker 4: well as I believe Northwestern Illinois Land of Linking game.
[1:08:27] Speaker 4: We had Michigan State, Maryland, I believe Michigan State won
[1:08:30] Speaker 4: that game.
[1:08:30] Speaker 5: I didn't see the final score before we hit go here.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: Maryland loses their final eight incredibles and bringing Mike Loxley back.
[1:08:38] Speaker 4: And on Friday, Iowa absolutely destroyed Nebraska by a forty
[1:08:43] Speaker 4: to sixteen score.
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, and was never truly that close. Mark Ronowski had
[1:08:48] Speaker 1: a complete game and Nebraska I did see that TJ
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: Latif I think tore his hamstring early on in this one,
[1:08:55] Speaker 1: which you never liked to see. No, but yeah, this
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: one was a frigid affair as well. And Iowa, you
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: pointed out, are like a dozen points from being undefeated,
[1:09:06] Speaker 1: Like they were very close when you look at how
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: close it was against USC, how close it was against Oregon,
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: how close it was against Iowa States. Who else am
[1:09:13] Speaker 1: I missing on Iowa's schedule loss wise?
[1:09:17] Speaker 4: I mean, look, it was four losses by a combined
[1:09:19] Speaker 4: fifteen points is what it amounts to.
[1:09:21] Speaker 5: So they were very good. And you know, I look, even.
[1:09:25] Speaker 4: Though it didn't quite go Indiana by five, Indiana by five,
[1:09:29] Speaker 4: that's right, twenty to fifteen. Even though it didn't go
[1:09:31] Speaker 4: quite as swimmingly as I expected with Mark Ronowski, Iowa
[1:09:35] Speaker 4: did pull together down the stretch, and I thought looked
[1:09:39] Speaker 4: much better on offense second half the season, either because
[1:09:42] Speaker 4: they were playing worse teams or because they were just
[1:09:44] Speaker 4: getting better, probably a combination of both, but good for them.
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: So they were they were a Trinidad Chambliss away from
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: going eleven and one. Crazy yeah elsewhere, Yeah, I mean,
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: I'll never like skim over Minnesota winning the acts, right,
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: I know you're doing a zoom call, a support call,
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: but it ends in a positive way for sky Yuma.
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: So that was a weather game you mentioned Northwestern, a
[1:10:11] Speaker 1: weathering game with Illinois and what's the Land of Lincoln Trophy.
[1:10:16] Speaker 1: Disappointing season given some of the expectations early on, but
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: Illinois going eight and four is never going to be
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: that huge piece of misery if you're an Illinois fan
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: in some of the depths to which Illinois has fallen
[1:10:28] Speaker 1: throughout the years. So good for Illinois for winning that game.
[1:10:32] Speaker 1: And you know, the USC UCLA game was somewhat close.
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: I think I only watched a little bit of that,
[1:10:36] Speaker 1: so maybe I'm wrong on that. We'll rewatch that one
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: later on. And I think that concludes my big ten thoughts.
[1:10:43] Speaker 4: Let's close things out here. I mean, I have much
[1:10:45] Speaker 4: else to discuss here. I want to talk about the
[1:10:47] Speaker 4: G five. We obviously have due alerts to do as
[1:10:49] Speaker 4: well before we let the fine people go. But just
[1:10:52] Speaker 4: to check back in on the Big twelve front, we
[1:10:54] Speaker 4: paid a lot of mind to text attack and BYU
[1:10:57] Speaker 4: and how by virtue of that, ASU lost their.
[1:11:00] Speaker 5: Going to be playing in the conference championship game.
[1:11:01] Speaker 4: But we had Utah beating Kansas in a game that
[1:11:06] Speaker 4: had some intrigue to it.
[1:11:07] Speaker 1: Oh man, Kansas had so many shots at that they.
[1:11:10] Speaker 5: Did, didn't they?
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: Yep?
[1:11:12] Speaker 4: Man, I was really surprised at how this game went.
[1:11:18] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[1:11:18] Speaker 4: I mean, they scored thirty one points, so it's hard
[1:11:20] Speaker 4: to look down your nose too much at them. But
[1:11:23] Speaker 4: I kind of expected a better performance, at least defensively.
[1:11:25] Speaker 5: Does that make sense? Is that fair to say?
[1:11:27] Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense when Kansas and Kansas State combined
[1:11:32] Speaker 1: to run for like seven hundred yards against this Utah
[1:11:35] Speaker 1: defense in consecutive weeks. I don't know what happened to
[1:11:37] Speaker 1: this Utah defense. Maybe there are a bunch of injuries
[1:11:40] Speaker 1: I am not referencing correctly here. That seems out of character.
[1:11:43] Speaker 5: I mean, I let me rephrase.
[1:11:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, the Utah defense did show up in this game.
[1:11:50] Speaker 4: They picked off Jalen Daniels three times. They had, but
[1:11:54] Speaker 4: it was it was a lot of bend but don't break.
[1:11:56] Speaker 4: They did for a ninety seven yard touchdown. Yeah, Kansas
[1:12:00] Speaker 4: tried to run the ball over and over again against Utah.
[1:12:03] Speaker 4: They tried to take a page out of Kansas State's playbook.
[1:12:07] Speaker 4: They ran the ball what fifty one times two hundred
[1:12:09] Speaker 4: nine yards something like that.
[1:12:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, they two hundred yard rushers they did.
[1:12:11] Speaker 4: So it was it was sort of a lumpy performance.
[1:12:14] Speaker 4: There were some good, there was some bad. On the
[1:12:17] Speaker 4: Utah defensive front. They seemed to wear Kansas down and
[1:12:21] Speaker 4: they were clearly the better team. They kind of cemented
[1:12:24] Speaker 4: that over the course of the game. But in terms
[1:12:27] Speaker 4: of their playoff viability, it I don't know.
[1:12:33] Speaker 5: I kind of feel like it took a hit here.
[1:12:36] Speaker 5: That's just me.
[1:12:36] Speaker 4: Maybe that sounds fair to Utah and Utah people can
[1:12:38] Speaker 4: yell at me if they want, but I just feel
[1:12:41] Speaker 4: like with the other teams that are grouped in that
[1:12:43] Speaker 4: in that cluster of two lost schools, I this one
[1:12:47] Speaker 4: didn't move the needle much for me.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: So they've only lost to the two teams playing in
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: the Big twelve championship game in Texas Tech and BYU.
[1:12:58] Speaker 1: Until these last two weeks, they've exclusively blown out everybody,
[1:13:03] Speaker 1: so they didn't finish strong. I think I'm with you
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: that when you look at Utah, it's very obviously they're
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: a very good team. But when you stack resumes, I mean,
[1:13:19] Speaker 1: they beat ASU, I think was that a Sam Levitt
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: game or was that a Jeff Simms game? That was
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: a Jeff Simms game, and ASU was a fringe top
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: twenty five team. Cincinnati's not going to be obviously losing
[1:13:31] Speaker 1: what they did at the down the stretch, so the
[1:13:34] Speaker 1: resume is just not going to be either. They don't
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: have a huge non conference win. I just think we
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: should look at Utah as a very good team that
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: is going to get leapt Over.
[1:13:43] Speaker 4: Lept Over the only other game that I want to
[1:13:45] Speaker 4: bring up here that that did something for me, and
[1:13:48] Speaker 4: I do want to go back and watch some of
[1:13:50] Speaker 4: the others here to get more of a fully fully
[1:13:52] Speaker 4: formed opinion on what transpired in the final week of
[1:13:54] Speaker 4: the year. But Houston thirty one Baylor twenty four was
[1:13:58] Speaker 4: a really fun back and forth game.
[1:14:00] Speaker 5: Yes, Houston pulls it off because they.
[1:14:03] Speaker 4: Were just better at executing when it really mattered. They
[1:14:06] Speaker 4: had four hundred and seventeen total yards. But obviously this
[1:14:09] Speaker 4: is a Baylor school that knows how to score, knows
[1:14:11] Speaker 4: how to put up yards on their own four to
[1:14:14] Speaker 4: twenty one for them. Houston ran the ball really well.
[1:14:17] Speaker 4: They had two hundred and sixteen yards. Connor Wegman was
[1:14:20] Speaker 4: a dude, had three touchdowns, two on the ground. Baylor
[1:14:26] Speaker 4: put a lot on Sawyer Robertson and he only completed
[1:14:29] Speaker 4: about fifty percent of his passes. So he's a good quarterback,
[1:14:34] Speaker 4: but they put a lot of strain on him to
[1:14:36] Speaker 4: go out there and win this one. He wasn't able
[1:14:38] Speaker 4: to get it done. A great season, by the way
[1:14:39] Speaker 4: for Houston, finishing this one out strong, winning by Baylor,
[1:14:43] Speaker 4: winning over Baylor by seven. Agree, Dan Rubinstein, I want
[1:14:48] Speaker 4: to give you a very brief G.
[1:14:51] Speaker 5: Six update if I can do so right now, Okay?
[1:14:54] Speaker 1: Are you also going to include the fact that Yale
[1:14:56] Speaker 1: scored twenty one points in the fourth quarter to beat
[1:14:59] Speaker 1: youngstown'st eight by one in the FCS plays on a.
[1:15:02] Speaker 5: Very long run.
[1:15:03] Speaker 4: Did you see that they kept showing the highlights they
[1:15:05] Speaker 4: kept showing the highlights throughout the course of the day
[1:15:07] Speaker 4: on ESPN.
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, continue.
[1:15:11] Speaker 5: The group of six.
[1:15:14] Speaker 4: Your American Championship is going to be between North Texas
[1:15:19] Speaker 4: and Twulane, North Texas, TWU Lane and Navy all one.
[1:15:24] Speaker 4: But it's going to be North Texas versus TWU Lane. Yes,
[1:15:29] Speaker 4: I'm excited about that matchup. Eric Morris is going to
[1:15:32] Speaker 4: Oklahoma State. We found out about that earlier in the week,
[1:15:35] Speaker 4: but sounds like both he Andrew Mestmaker at least going
[1:15:37] Speaker 4: to hang around for this.
[1:15:38] Speaker 5: That's good.
[1:15:40] Speaker 4: James Madison's going to play Troy in the Sun Belt
[1:15:43] Speaker 4: Championship game. They won fifty nine to ten over Coasts Carolina.
[1:15:47] Speaker 4: They're clearly trying to get some style points right now.
[1:15:49] Speaker 4: Bobby Chez Bob Chesney might be headed elsewhere. The rumor
[1:15:53] Speaker 4: is that he could be going to UCLA right hopefully,
[1:15:56] Speaker 4: if he decides to leave before any sort of postseason
[1:16:00] Speaker 4: James Madison won't be punished beause they're a fun team.
[1:16:03] Speaker 4: But who knows where It really gets interesting though, And
[1:16:08] Speaker 4: I say this especially now because of this duke circumstance
[1:16:11] Speaker 4: that I talked about at the top of the show.
[1:16:14] Speaker 4: The Mountain West Conference Dan Rubertstein, Okay, the mount West
[1:16:18] Speaker 4: Conference is going to be down to their third tiebreaker.
[1:16:23] Speaker 4: The third tiebreaker is made up of composite rankings across
[1:16:28] Speaker 4: the following analytics platforms, Sports Source Analytics, ESPN's Strength of
[1:16:33] Speaker 4: Record KPI rankings, and the Bill Connolly sp plus.
[1:16:41] Speaker 1: Continue.
[1:16:43] Speaker 4: We've got four teams and we'll fight out tomorrow who
[1:16:47] Speaker 4: is playing in this game. It is Boise State, it
[1:16:50] Speaker 4: is San Diego State, it is New Mexico, and it
[1:16:53] Speaker 4: is UNLV.
[1:16:54] Speaker 5: Among those four teams, we're going.
[1:16:56] Speaker 4: To find out who is playing tomorrow in the mount
[1:16:58] Speaker 4: West Championship. That really the only remaining matchup that we
[1:17:02] Speaker 4: do not officially know at time of recording.
[1:17:04] Speaker 1: Yes, New Mexico with a wild wind by the way
[1:17:09] Speaker 1: over San Diego State.
[1:17:10] Speaker 5: Wearing beautiful, beautiful lobos.
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: My beautiful Lobos wearing their dapper turquoise lucky.
[1:17:15] Speaker 5: I did like them.
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea how they're going to sort
[1:17:18] Speaker 1: all that out. So those are the two big things
[1:17:20] Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, Right, we get the Mountain West calculations and
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and Lane KIVN.
[1:17:26] Speaker 4: Do we have a Lane Kiffin update before we put
[1:17:28] Speaker 4: a bow in this one.
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has put in his retainers and is going
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: to sleep.
[1:17:33] Speaker 5: It's about time. It's been a long day for Lane.
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really funny image. Lane Kiffin Like, all right, guys,
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: I got go, I got Mark Tanner for and I'm
[1:17:41] Speaker 1: done taking calls.
[1:17:43] Speaker 4: Any other action that you want to highlight here before
[1:17:45] Speaker 4: we get to do the lords to let these people
[1:17:47] Speaker 4: go to bed.
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: Across like the American or Sun Belt Ross, whatever you want, sir,
[1:17:55] Speaker 1: I don't think teams like Arkansas State and Louisiana won
[1:17:59] Speaker 1: their sixthxas State won their six to get to a bowl.
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: Your guy Jared Parker got to eight and four with
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: Troy pretty quietly. I mean we mentioned guy James Madison
[1:18:10] Speaker 1: won by forty nine points at Coastal. So the style
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: points seemed to be with JMU. Navy beat Memphis Thursday night,
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: not nothing. As Navy goes to nine.
[1:18:21] Speaker 5: And two, sev went on Thanksgiving Eve.
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: Yes, and so they would be eligible. Yes, they would
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: be eligible to the American Championship. And yet they will
[1:18:31] Speaker 1: still play Army in two weeks coreat so we have
[1:18:35] Speaker 1: that North Texas, as you mentioned, Drew Mestamaker went wild
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: as he normally does, and they beat up on Temple,
[1:18:42] Speaker 1: Tulane shut out Charlotte's UAB without Trent Dilferd beat Tulsa
[1:18:48] Speaker 1: so got to four and eight. That's something. Army beat
[1:18:50] Speaker 1: Utsa in the Alamodome, which we've discussed as being difficult,
[1:18:53] Speaker 1: and Army gets their sixth wins, so they'll go bowling.
[1:18:57] Speaker 1: USF not going to play for the American but they
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: beat Rice by forty nine as well, So you are
[1:19:02] Speaker 1: high on USF, and USF largely came through. Though they're
[1:19:06] Speaker 1: not going to make the College Football Playoff, it's something.
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: It's something to potentially win ten games and looks like
[1:19:13] Speaker 1: they're probably losing their coach in the process. Fresnel looks
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: like they're gonna get to eight wins. Hawaii looks like
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: they're going to get to eight wins. UNLV and Dan
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: Mullen's first year ten and two.
[1:19:24] Speaker 5: That's a nice that's a nice year.
[1:19:27] Speaker 1: I just we're also going to be talking about Dan
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: Mullen coaching candidate in a year from tonight somewhere else.
[1:19:36] Speaker 1: I think that's it. And Boise State was able to
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: manage to come back against Utah State on.
[1:19:40] Speaker 4: The road, if you've got anything else to say, of course,
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[1:20:02] Speaker 4: first part of the season is over, and now is
[1:20:04] Speaker 4: when it really gets interesting. As we get into the postseason.
[1:20:07] Speaker 4: Of course we're going to have games. We're going to
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[1:20:38] Speaker 4: Dan Rubistein would you like to give out some dood alerts. Sure,
[1:20:44] Speaker 4: we give out dood alerts to the individual, mostly individual
[1:20:49] Speaker 4: performances that move the needle for us every College Football Week,
[1:20:53] Speaker 4: Dan Rivalry Week.
[1:20:54] Speaker 5: Who did it for you?
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: Well, we got some suggestions. Obviously, will long time for
[1:20:59] Speaker 1: baller says Virginia Defense holding Virginia Tech to under two
[1:21:02] Speaker 1: hundred yards, which many middle schools might be able to do,
[1:21:05] Speaker 1: but Virginia also was able to do it. We got
[1:21:08] Speaker 1: a couple of nominations for officiating crews, including the Ohio
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: State Michigan replay official, the Iron Bowl officiating crew Ahmad Hardy. Obviously,
[1:21:19] Speaker 1: the dude of dudes had a sensational year for Miszoo.
[1:21:23] Speaker 1: Freaky Leak Malik Benson came through once again. He's had
[1:21:26] Speaker 1: a number of He had the huge catch for Oregon
[1:21:28] Speaker 1: against Iowa if you remember, he had a big punt
[1:21:30] Speaker 1: return touchdown against USC, and he had a big touchdown
[1:21:33] Speaker 1: to open up the game against Washington today. So most
[1:21:36] Speaker 1: certainly a dude Malik Washington in a losing effort against
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: Michigan State through for over four hundred and fifty yards
[1:21:43] Speaker 1: three touchdowns, unfortunately was now able to get it done.
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss for Ole Miss once again. How about Ethan
[1:21:50] Speaker 1: caliac manis just tip of the cap against Penn State.
[1:21:54] Speaker 1: Had some down years there for Minnesota, has revitalized things
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: for Rutgers. In that same game, k Tron Allen goes
[1:22:00] Speaker 1: for over two hundred yards. Camaro Taylor in a losing
[1:22:03] Speaker 1: effort for Mississippi State, thrust into a starting role and
[1:22:07] Speaker 1: goes for two hundred on the ground against Ole Miss,
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: who does not have a great rush defense, but all
[1:22:11] Speaker 1: the same, an impressive performance. Malcolm Simmons we mentioned for
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: Auburn and a losing effort goes for one hundred and
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: forty three yards. Isaiah Horton had those three touchdown catches.
[1:22:20] Speaker 1: Dudes across the sport. How about Jayden Ba Jaden baw
[1:22:24] Speaker 1: just kept running for a disastrously chaotic and bad Florida season.
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: Jaden Ba every week gave everything he had. He goes
[1:22:33] Speaker 1: for two sixty six in a winning effort in a
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: rivalry game, in a lame duck situation. Good for Jaden Ba.
[1:22:41] Speaker 5: Good for Jadenba.
[1:22:42] Speaker 4: If you got any of the suggestions again, hit us
[1:22:44] Speaker 4: up with social media or soliverbo at gmail dot com.
[1:22:48] Speaker 4: So here's the way this is gonna work for bowlers. Yes,
[1:22:53] Speaker 4: we're gonna have our normal compliment of episodes this week.
[1:22:56] Speaker 4: We're going to do one for Tuesday. We'll have another
[1:22:58] Speaker 4: one for Thursday. You can stop back in next Saturday night,
[1:23:02] Speaker 4: same time, same place. We will do our conference championship recap. Typically,
[1:23:07] Speaker 4: those are some of the biggest shows that we do.
[1:23:09] Speaker 4: We're still working on the exact timing and schedule for
[1:23:12] Speaker 4: what we're going to do this time next weekend, because
[1:23:16] Speaker 4: not only do we have games that we need to
[1:23:18] Speaker 4: discuss in the immediate aftermath, but one o'clock twelve pm
[1:23:23] Speaker 4: Eastern whatever it is on Sunday, that's where we're going
[1:23:26] Speaker 4: to get the final playoff rankings we're going to need
[1:23:28] Speaker 4: to react to.
[1:23:28] Speaker 5: So stay tuned.
[1:23:29] Speaker 4: We'll give you more information as we can on when
[1:23:32] Speaker 4: we're going to be talking about all that stuff, but
[1:23:34] Speaker 4: for the time being, tuned back in on Tuesday, we're
[1:23:38] Speaker 4: going to go through I think a little bit of
[1:23:42] Speaker 4: more detail here over teams that exceeded expectations, teams that
[1:23:46] Speaker 4: made bowls, go through records over unders, things of that nature.
[1:23:51] Speaker 4: Just a little bit of a retrospective. Now that the
[1:23:53] Speaker 4: regular season is over, and of course we'll give you
[1:23:55] Speaker 4: the latest Lane Kiffin and coaching news.
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely can't wait more Lane.
[1:24:02] Speaker 4: More Laane, indeed Dan Rubinstein, enjoy the rest of your evening.
[1:24:06] Speaker 1: You as well, can't wait to talk all things Conference
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: Championship week. Watch more of these games to discuss early
[1:24:12] Speaker 1: on in the week, have playoff takes that people are
[1:24:16] Speaker 1: going to be infuriated by that are going to be
[1:24:19] Speaker 1: so mild you can't even believe it. And head into
[1:24:24] Speaker 1: this very active time of this.
[1:24:25] Speaker 5: We have signing day, right, signing day.
[1:24:28] Speaker 1: Early, signing day. Excuse Yeah, got coach hires. Yeah, this
[1:24:31] Speaker 1: is when it gets real spicy for that guy.
[1:24:33] Speaker 4: There, my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Ty Hildon Brand,
[1:24:36] Speaker 4: thank you all for downloading, for listening, for supporting, for
[1:24:38] Speaker 4: watching live. We will talk to you all soon.
[1:24:41] Speaker 5: In the meantime, you know the drill, stay solid, Peace,

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