# 1764 - "Rage Quit"

An episode of [No Agenda Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/269169796), 15 May 2025, 3 h 37 min.

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## Transcript

[0:00] Boom, boom, crop, boom.
[0:01] Adam Curry, John C.
[0:03] Dvorak.
[0:03] It's Thursday, May 15, 2025.
[0:05] This is your award-winning Give on Asian
[0:07] Media assassination episode 1764.
[0:10] This is no agenda.
[0:13] It's been six weeks and we're still broadcasting
[0:16] live from the heart of the Texas hill
[0:18] country here in FEMA region number six in
[0:20] the morning, everybody.
[0:22] I'm Adam Curry.
[0:23] I'm from northern Silicon Valley where you've noticed
[0:25] that Trump finally looks tired.
[0:26] I'm John C.
[0:27] Dvorak.
[0:28] It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
[0:33] He does look tired, doesn't he?
[0:36] Well, he's wandering around the guy in Abu
[0:38] Dhabi.
[0:39] Yeah.
[0:40] And he's just on his last legs.
[0:42] You could, it just doesn't have, you know,
[0:44] it's like, uh.
[0:45] I'm tired just watching the guy.
[0:47] It doesn't, doesn't surprise me.
[0:48] I'm like.
[0:49] Pooping every, yeah.
[0:51] Hey, but before we get anywhere, breaking, breaking,
[0:54] breaking, breaking.
[0:56] Ow, Isis.
[1:00] We will follow them to the gates of
[1:03] hell.
[1:07] Yeah.
[1:11] Say goodbye to the old boss.
[1:13] Say hello to the new boss.
[1:14] Everything remains the same.
[1:15] Strike one for Kash Patel, who was out
[1:18] on the social medias this morning touting this.
[1:22] Oh yeah, we took care of him, boy.
[1:24] We protect you Americans.
[1:25] Six weeks cycle, cycle still in full effect.
[1:29] And now it's time for.
[1:30] Sorry.
[1:32] I was, was so well-timed.
[1:34] It was so well-timed.
[1:35] No wonder we're getting no donations.
[1:37] You're going to blame me now.
[1:39] Police and the FBI say they have stopped
[1:42] a planned terror attack at a Metro Detroit
[1:44] military base.
[1:46] The accused mastermind, a 19-year-old former
[1:48] member of the Michigan Army National Guard.
[1:51] Again, a lot developing here at this hour.
[1:53] Going to bring in Robin Murdoch with our
[1:55] Fox 2 Detroit team.
[1:57] Joining us live with what we know and
[1:59] what is still left to figure out.
[2:01] Good morning, Robin.
[2:02] Good morning, Josh.
[2:03] Yeah, what could have happened here is absolutely
[2:05] frightening.
[2:06] As you just mentioned, a 19-year-old
[2:08] Melvindale man is behind bars this morning for
[2:12] allegedly planning a terrorist attack at the TACOM
[2:15] military facility here in Warren, where we are
[2:19] right now.
[2:19] He apparently, according to court documents, had been
[2:23] planning this attack for about a year, and
[2:26] he was arrested on the day that he
[2:28] was supposed to carry this out.
[2:30] So he was arrested on Tuesday.
[2:32] 19-year-old Ammar Syed had allegedly been
[2:34] taking a couple or talking to a couple
[2:37] of different undercover officers who were posing as
[2:40] ISIS supporters.
[2:41] Now, federal investigators say that he told them
[2:43] how to make Molotov cocktails, gave them ammunition,
[2:47] and even flew a drone over the military
[2:49] base here to help plot that attack against
[2:52] Syed.
[2:53] Was arrested on the very same day he
[2:55] was supposed to carry out this mass shooting.
[2:58] Now, neighbors, as you can imagine, they were
[3:00] just shocked when they saw the FBI raiding
[3:02] his home in Melvindale.
[3:04] The allegations are alarming and simply frightening.
[3:08] Yeah, okay.
[3:09] Same as it ever was.
[3:11] They talked to this poor 18-year-old
[3:13] kid for a year, hyping him up.
[3:15] They got pictures of him doing Alawak bar
[3:18] with the ISIS flag.
[3:19] Hey, kid.
[3:20] Hey, fly this drone around.
[3:22] And the minute he gets to go, we
[3:24] got you.
[3:24] We're protecting you, America.
[3:26] Cash in peace, Cash Patel.
[3:28] That is lame.
[3:30] It would be one thing if he was
[3:31] like, oh, you know, that was the previous
[3:33] FBI.
[3:35] But no.
[3:35] Why would they change the formula that works?
[3:38] It doesn't work.
[3:39] Except for you and I.
[3:40] It's entrapment of children.
[3:43] The guy always ends up getting off.
[3:45] Most of these guys end up getting off.
[3:46] This is a child who was just being
[3:48] jacked up.
[3:49] And they should have said to him, hey,
[3:50] hey, son, sit down.
[3:52] A year ago.
[3:53] Sit down, son.
[3:54] What is wrong with you?
[3:55] Let's talk to you about this.
[3:57] Get your parents in here.
[3:58] Oh, that's 30 years ago.
[4:01] Yeah, but this is MAGA.
[4:02] This is America.
[4:03] This is New America.
[4:04] This is not Biden's America.
[4:06] What is this nonsense?
[4:09] Bush era did it.
[4:10] Yeah, well, of course.
[4:12] Everybody did it.
[4:13] But this is MAGA time.
[4:14] The Kash Patel was going to be different.
[4:16] He's going to be different.
[4:17] I'm going to do everything different.
[4:18] No.
[4:18] When's the last time that happened?
[4:20] Well, I'm just saying that I'm very disappointed.
[4:26] Very disappointed.
[4:27] What a, what a loser system.
[4:30] Oh, come on, kid.
[4:32] Here, I'll show you how to make a
[4:33] Molotov cocktail.
[4:35] Make your own ammunition.
[4:37] Like you just can't, like you can't go
[4:38] out and buy it.
[4:40] Make your own ammo.
[4:41] I'll show you how to make some ammo.
[4:41] We'll keep you busy.
[4:42] These guys have been working this for a
[4:44] year, wasting our money on this nonsense.
[4:46] Well, that I agree with that part of
[4:48] it.
[4:49] Nonsense.
[4:50] No, it's just, it is, it is not
[4:53] cool.
[4:54] Very disappointing.
[4:56] He's up there now with A.G. Barbee.
[4:58] Strike one against, actually, A.G. Barbee has
[5:01] two strikes for Epstein and for JFK.
[5:05] I'm sure she was probably, she's probably out
[5:07] there today too.
[5:08] Well, we saved everybody.
[5:10] I don't know if you're going to go
[5:11] with that.
[5:11] Terrorist attack.
[5:12] The strikes.
[5:13] What about Diddy?
[5:14] What about Diddy?
[5:16] Where's the, where's the tapes?
[5:19] Well, the tapes apparently were showed in court.
[5:22] Well, some, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[5:25] The freak off tapes here.
[5:26] Sean Diddy combs in Cassie Ventura on the
[5:29] red carpet for a movie premiere in March
[5:31] of 2016.
[5:32] Jurors shown similar pictures from that night today
[5:35] in court in the sex trafficking and racketeering
[5:37] trial of Combs.
[5:38] He has pleaded not guilty to all charges
[5:41] against him.
[5:42] Ventura and Combs were dating at the time,
[5:44] but split in 2018.
[5:46] Taking the stand for a second day, she
[5:48] told jurors she wore a lot of makeup
[5:49] and sunglasses that night to cover bruising on
[5:52] her face.
[5:53] Ventura testifying those bruises were caused by Combs
[5:56] two days before the premiere during a drug
[5:58] -fueled sex party he called a freak off.
[6:01] She told jurors Combs threw a vase of
[6:03] flowers at her when she tried to leave
[6:05] the hotel.
[6:05] The jury seeing this image showing shards of
[6:08] glass on the floor in the hotel hallway.
[6:10] This video of Combs throwing Ventura to the
[6:13] ground- The hallway beating.
[6:14] What?
[6:15] No, no, no, no, no, listen.
[6:16] And kicking her in that hallway was also
[6:18] entered into evidence.
[6:20] Prosecutors showing the jury seven still images from
[6:23] those videos in court today.
[6:25] Ventura testified when she got home, a friend
[6:27] noticed that injury at her swollen lip and
[6:29] called police.
[6:30] She said she didn't want to name Combs,
[6:32] so police left.
[6:33] Jurors showed a text message from Ventura to
[6:36] Combs saying you are sick for thinking it's
[6:38] okay to do what you've done.
[6:40] A prosecutor asked how frequently did Sean put
[6:42] his hands on you during freak offs?
[6:45] Ventura responded too frequently.
[6:47] A lot.
[6:48] The singer testified the freak offs also became
[6:50] private pornography shoots with Combs setting up video
[6:53] equipment to record that she felt humiliated, testifying
[6:57] it was just not okay for me and
[6:59] that she felt like an object without a
[7:01] choice in whether or not to participate.
[7:03] Ventura testifying Combs threatened.
[7:05] I'm sure that this clip said they showed
[7:07] the freak off videos.
[7:08] Hold on her career and family.
[7:10] Prosecutors showing the jury and only the jury.
[7:13] Some of those videos in court today.
[7:15] Uh huh.
[7:16] Told you the defense is arguing Ventura that
[7:19] tells us that they saw some of the
[7:21] only the jurors.
[7:22] Some of the what videos?
[7:23] Which one?
[7:24] The freak off video.
[7:24] She said it right there.
[7:25] The freak off videos that were that were
[7:27] recorded by Combs here saying she feared for
[7:30] her career and family.
[7:32] Prosecutors showing the jury and only the jury.
[7:34] Some of those videos in court today.
[7:36] Yeah, the freak off videos.
[7:37] They've shown them some of the freak off
[7:39] video.
[7:40] So do you keep throwing the word freak
[7:42] off in there?
[7:43] They said it.
[7:44] She said they showed the jury some of
[7:46] the videos.
[7:47] They didn't say freak off videos.
[7:49] You play it over and over again and
[7:50] you're hearing it wrong.
[7:52] They're talking about the porn pornographic video shot
[7:55] during the freak.
[7:56] Listen, listen, open your ears and listen from
[7:59] Ventura to Combs.
[8:00] Saying you are sick for thinking it's OK
[8:02] to do what you've done.
[8:03] A prosecutor asked how frequently did Sean put
[8:06] his hands on you during freak offs?
[8:08] Ventura responded too frequently.
[8:11] A lot.
[8:11] The singer testified the freak offs also became
[8:14] private pornography shoots with Combs setting up video
[8:17] equipment to record that she felt humiliated, testifying
[8:21] it was just not OK for me and
[8:23] that she felt like an object without a
[8:24] choice in whether or not to participate.
[8:26] Ventura testifying Combs threatened to release the videos
[8:29] when he was upset about something saying she
[8:32] feared for her career and family.
[8:34] Prosecutors showing the jury and only the jury
[8:37] some of those videos in court today.
[8:39] That's so it's those videos.
[8:41] That's clear from the report.
[8:43] You agree?
[8:44] No.
[8:46] OK, I inferred.
[8:49] Yes, it's implied.
[8:50] They're saying the video, the freak off videos
[8:52] that she was OK, but they don't use
[8:55] it.
[8:55] They don't present it that way.
[8:57] OK, I'm going to parse it because that's
[9:00] what they do.
[9:01] That's what the media does.
[9:02] They they say one thing and then they
[9:03] kind of lead you astray and then make
[9:05] you sound like you're something like something's going
[9:07] on when it's not.
[9:09] Unless they said they showed them freak off
[9:12] videos, I'm not.
[9:14] They showed videos.
[9:15] OK, well, it showed some of those videos.
[9:17] And OK, whatever you just hear it differently.
[9:20] That's fine.
[9:21] That's fine.
[9:22] It's fine.
[9:22] You know what?
[9:23] I spoke to those high school kids here
[9:24] yesterday morning and it was really that's right.
[9:28] You were a big guy.
[9:28] You were the you were the.
[9:32] Superstar speaker to the high school.
[9:34] Yes.
[9:36] And and I it was actually very good
[9:39] for me because I realized as I was
[9:41] sitting there talking about, you know, it was
[9:44] supposed to be a propaganda.
[9:45] And, you know, if you look up the
[9:46] definition of propaganda, it is influencing people through
[9:50] communications.
[9:51] Doesn't have to be mass communications can even
[9:53] be through hairdos or hats or anything like
[9:56] that to work on their on their emotions.
[10:03] That's exactly what it is.
[10:04] And, you know, I referred to Edward Bernays,
[10:07] who wrote the book, and that was all
[10:09] before Hitler.
[10:09] And that was 1929 when he had the
[10:12] suffragettes and the torches of freedom.
[10:15] And this is cigarettes.
[10:16] Yeah.
[10:17] And as I'm going through it, I'm like,
[10:18] you know, every single thing, even stuff you
[10:22] and I say is all propaganda.
[10:24] And when I said, who do you think
[10:26] is the biggest propagandist in America right now?
[10:28] One kid, Levi, stuck up his hand.
[10:30] He went, President Donald Trump.
[10:31] I said, yes, MAGA.
[10:33] He's got hats.
[10:34] He's got a slogan.
[10:36] It's just he's not playing on fear necessarily.
[10:39] And then I just remember.
[10:40] You don't have to play on fear to
[10:41] make it propaganda.
[10:42] No, but fear is much easier to do.
[10:44] But, you know, all most people have is,
[10:46] he's Hitler.
[10:48] He's taking free jets.
[10:54] Speaking of which, I see you have a
[10:56] 3x3.
[10:57] I guess the Jones Brothers syndicate has brought
[10:59] you back into their inner circle.
[11:01] Am I assuming this correctly?
[11:02] They chum the water once in a while.
[11:05] And now it's time for 3x3.
[11:07] Chum the water.
[11:09] Experiment by JC Dean.
[11:10] Oh yeah, baby.
[11:11] Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC.
[11:17] So before you get into it, I just
[11:19] want to say that is it possible that
[11:23] someone in the M5M news media will figure
[11:26] out the algorithm that is President Donald Trump?
[11:29] Do they not understand by now that this
[11:33] is, to use a term, chum in the
[11:37] water to look over here while I'm doing
[11:39] something over there?
[11:41] Because if you even try to figure out
[11:43] where did this story come from about the
[11:46] jet?
[11:46] Where did it come from?
[11:48] It came from the Trump administration themselves.
[11:52] They planted this.
[11:54] They launched it.
[11:55] And everybody, everyone, everyone went for it.
[12:00] It is baffling how...
[12:02] He's the master troller.
[12:04] Everybody knows this.
[12:05] He's a master propagandist.
[12:07] It was fantastic.
[12:08] He played right into them.
[12:11] No, they played right into him.
[12:13] Yes, they played right into him.
[12:16] And I'm just like the BBC is doing
[12:18] a better job at reporting these days than
[12:20] anything we have.
[12:21] And oh man, they even have it.
[12:23] What was the name they have now for
[12:25] it?
[12:27] What was it?
[12:28] I saw the rising.
[12:29] What is the rising?
[12:30] Had something, the rising.
[12:32] The rising.
[12:33] Oh yeah, listen to this.
[12:36] Bride Force One controversy.
[12:38] Bride Force One.
[12:39] Oh, we have a name for it.
[12:40] Oh yes, it's a controversy.
[12:42] He's taking favors from Qatar.
[12:44] He can't fly in a jet that might
[12:46] explode him in air because they've planted bombs
[12:48] on it.
[12:49] Or are eavesdropping.
[12:51] How feeble minded are you people?
[12:55] Or are they just playing a game?
[12:56] Do you think they really know it all?
[12:57] And they're like, okay, we'll play the game.
[12:59] Is that possible?
[13:01] No, I worked in there.
[13:03] Then we are, you and I are working
[13:05] amongst people who are below our intelligence level.
[13:08] I don't know if we can do this
[13:09] anymore.
[13:10] It is so insulting that this just, you
[13:13] know, the news is filled with it.
[13:16] Here in the United States, we have no
[13:17] news.
[13:19] No news.
[13:20] It's all entertainment tonight.
[13:23] It reminds me, you know, I was watching
[13:25] CBS.
[13:25] I didn't get any clips from the show,
[13:27] but CBS with John Dickerson and this other
[13:30] character whose name I can never remember is
[13:32] French.
[13:34] And they're trying to recreate the Chet Huntley,
[13:39] David Brinkley combo.
[13:41] Two guys yakking with each other.
[13:44] And it's just not working.
[13:45] You can tell that both these guys, the
[13:48] one guy's big.
[13:49] He's a big dark skinned guy with a
[13:51] French name.
[13:52] He's maybe black and maybe Spanish.
[13:54] I can't tell.
[13:56] And John Dickerson, who's, you know, white as
[13:59] you can be.
[14:01] And Beta, you know, he's very soft spoken.
[14:06] And these two guys are like, just like
[14:09] water and oil.
[14:11] I mean, they don't, you can tell they
[14:13] don't like each other because Huntley and Brinkley,
[14:16] people don't remember them.
[14:17] I'm old enough to.
[14:19] They were cordial.
[14:21] They liked each other.
[14:23] They'd hang out.
[14:23] You could just tell it was a good
[14:25] team.
[14:26] You watch these two guys.
[14:27] It's like watching, you know, a couple that
[14:30] just hates each other.
[14:31] Here's another thing I realized in preparation for
[14:35] my big speech for the high school.
[14:39] These kids, why would they listen to this
[14:42] show?
[14:42] The next generation is not interested in what
[14:45] we're doing.
[14:46] They don't watch television at all, at all,
[14:49] at all, at all.
[14:50] Zero.
[14:51] They don't watch PBS.
[14:53] They don't listen to NPR.
[14:55] None of this.
[14:57] It's, it's, you know, we're, we're.
[15:01] You brought this up.
[15:03] And it reminds me, as I have seen
[15:05] some notes from some of these, this group.
[15:08] There are some kids who do, but it's
[15:10] rare.
[15:10] A few, a few.
[15:11] Sure.
[15:12] But I've seen notes to this effect, what
[15:15] you just said, condemning the show because who
[15:19] cares about what CBS said?
[15:21] I mean, it's not the fact that CBS
[15:23] still has millions and millions of viewers.
[15:27] And it does affect the public and it
[15:30] definitely affects Washington more than anything.
[15:33] Because the people in Washington, our leaders all
[15:37] watch these networks.
[15:38] Our leaders all read the New York Times,
[15:42] etc.
[15:44] And so there's some reason to do this,
[15:47] but.
[15:48] Not much.
[15:48] Basically, basically condemning us for being, what difference
[15:53] does it make?
[15:54] We need to be screaming and yelling about
[15:56] other podcasters.
[15:57] Here was my test.
[15:59] Anyone hear about the President Trump jet controversy?
[16:03] Three hands.
[16:04] Three, three hands.
[16:07] This has been blanketing our media for a
[16:09] week.
[16:10] Three, three hands.
[16:11] How many kids were there?
[16:12] A hundred?
[16:13] No, less than that.
[16:15] And I say, how many of you have
[16:16] heard about the TikTok ban?
[16:17] Boom, all hands up.
[16:20] What was it about?
[16:21] China's tracking us.
[16:23] Of course, I dispelled that for them.
[16:25] But that's, that's, that's the whole point.
[16:28] It's like you actually, I've been withholding you
[16:31] from the right direction from the show.
[16:34] We just need to do wall-to-wall
[16:36] TikTok clips, man.
[16:37] Wall-to-wall.
[16:38] Don't forget some today.
[16:39] Yeah, I just need to do wall-to
[16:40] -wall TikTok clops.
[16:42] TikTok clops.
[16:43] Tick-tick-tock-tock clops.
[16:45] And we just got to be commenting on
[16:47] them.
[16:47] And we got to be talking about Megyn
[16:48] Kelly.
[16:49] And we got to be talking about Dave
[16:51] Smith on Tucker Carlson.
[16:53] And about all these people.
[16:55] That's, that's, that is the future of the
[16:57] show.
[16:57] Otherwise, we're riding our audience into the pearly
[17:00] gates.
[17:01] Into the pearly gates.
[17:03] There's something to be said for that.
[17:05] And I think others would agree.
[17:08] Now, I do have a Dave Smith clip
[17:11] I want to play later.
[17:12] Which reiterates, the reason I caught this.
[17:16] It's a real good one too.
[17:17] You'll get a kick out of it.
[17:18] I don't think most people caught it.
[17:20] But it reiterates something else that we've, in
[17:24] the background, have discussed.
[17:26] Well, do you want to do the three
[17:27] -by-three first?
[17:28] Or do you want to go?
[17:28] I'm sorry.
[17:29] You already introduced the three-by-three.
[17:31] We've got three clips about the stupid jet.
[17:34] Three clips from stations you kids don't watch.
[17:38] The kids don't care about.
[17:39] But I'll tell you this.
[17:42] This is not an emolument situation as far
[17:45] as I can tell.
[17:45] You have to remember that we receive, we
[17:47] receive gifts from foreign countries all the time.
[17:50] We do?
[17:52] The Statue of Liberty?
[17:53] Oh no, I thought you and me, like
[17:55] the show.
[17:55] I'm like, what?
[17:56] Oh, I wish.
[17:58] Send me a jet.
[17:59] We get a box of candy once in
[18:01] a while.
[18:02] From out of state.
[18:03] Yeah.
[18:07] Yes.
[18:07] I do get some sweatshirts and hoodies.
[18:09] Yeah, but your point is well made.
[18:11] Of course, there's all kinds of gifts.
[18:13] But you know, the whole idea here is,
[18:17] let's start some noise that makes it look
[18:19] like Trump is trying to benefit from his
[18:22] kids.
[18:24] You know, they're doing hotels in Qatar.
[18:26] And this is all, this is a grift.
[18:29] It's a grift, man.
[18:30] It's a bunch of grifters.
[18:31] That's the implication.
[18:33] So let's start with, let's start with the
[18:38] CIA, the CBS.
[18:41] Air Force One, an undeniable representation of American
[18:45] power, ferried President Trump to the Middle East
[18:47] today.
[18:48] But three months ago, the president toured an
[18:50] opulent Boeing 747, described as a flying palace
[18:54] with a master bedroom, elegant bathrooms and staircase,
[18:57] offered to the U.S. government free of
[18:59] charge by the royal family of Qatar.
[19:01] Trump seems all in.
[19:04] And I could be a stupid person and
[19:06] say, no, we don't want a free, very
[19:08] expensive airplane.
[19:10] But it was, I thought it was a
[19:12] great gesture.
[19:12] Frank Kendall served as Air Force Secretary in
[19:14] the Biden administration and says this idea shouldn't
[19:17] fly.
[19:18] It's a symbol of the presidency.
[19:19] It's a symbol of the American people.
[19:21] And it's just frankly wrong for the president
[19:23] to be flying an airplane, which when anyone
[19:25] sees it will be seen as a gift
[19:27] from Qatar.
[19:27] The Qatari plane is built by Boeing in
[19:30] the U.S., but it would have to
[19:31] be scrubbed for spyware.
[19:33] And it lacks at least a billion dollars
[19:34] worth of presidential parts, a flying situation room,
[19:37] a medical clinic and top secret technology.
[19:40] Air Force One is a flying White House.
[19:42] It is equipped with everything the president needs
[19:44] that you can get into a 747 so
[19:46] he can do his job while he's traveling.
[19:49] This aircraft will not have those things.
[19:51] So how much is it going to cost
[19:52] to retrofit a palace into the White House?
[19:55] It would take years and it would be
[19:57] very expensive.
[19:58] But Kendall says the commander in chief has
[20:01] the power to fly on any aircraft he
[20:03] wants.
[20:04] And he can say, I don't care about
[20:05] any of those things.
[20:06] All I want is a luxurious airplane that
[20:08] I can fly around on.
[20:11] And is our other lawmakers in Washington OK
[20:13] with this gift?
[20:14] No.
[20:15] Oh, there's bipartisan condemnation of this.
[20:18] Democrats are saying they're going to block Justice
[20:19] Department nominees because officials there have signed off
[20:22] on this agreement.
[20:23] The president himself, back in his first term,
[20:25] accused Qatar of being a funder of terrorism.
[20:27] But for now, he says he wants the
[20:29] plane.
[20:30] You know, the thing that I don't think
[20:32] anyone mentioned might be in your three by
[20:34] threes, not a single person, news person or
[20:38] not, mentioned that the term Air Force One
[20:42] is any if the president decides to get
[20:45] into a Cessna 172 and fly around, that
[20:49] is then Air Force One.
[20:53] So just a small point.
[20:55] But they didn't even make that.
[20:57] They don't make any points that said this
[20:58] is all bad.
[20:59] By the way, that's interesting.
[21:01] These not the guys on the networks, but
[21:03] all these people, these spokespeople, I'm starting to
[21:05] hear this more and more.
[21:06] People are pronouncing, you know, Qatar's been pronounced.
[21:10] Gutter.
[21:11] Gutter.
[21:11] Gutter.
[21:12] You noticed it, too.
[21:13] Oh, yeah.
[21:13] Gutter.
[21:14] It's gutter.
[21:15] It's.
[21:16] Cutter.
[21:17] You could say cutter or Qatar.
[21:18] I always I like Qatar better.
[21:20] Qatar's.
[21:21] I like Qatar better.
[21:22] Sounds like a guitar.
[21:23] You know, yeah, guitar.
[21:24] I play my guitar in Qatar and my
[21:26] chicks for free.
[21:30] So, yes, I've noticed this gutter thing myself.
[21:32] Well, I'm sure the subliminal gutter.
[21:34] It's just the gutter.
[21:35] There's the gutter over there.
[21:36] That's the reason.
[21:37] There's a reason to say gutter.
[21:39] Well, there's a reason to say Keeve.
[21:42] So let's go with let's move to I'm
[21:45] going to say let's go to NBC.
[21:47] The president is defending his decision to accept
[21:49] a super luxury jumbo jet from the Qatari
[21:52] government for the Pentagon to use as the
[21:54] new Air Force One amid ongoing delays for
[21:57] a replacement jet from Boeing.
[21:59] A White House official confirms these are pictures
[22:01] of its interior.
[22:02] The president says the jet will be transferred
[22:04] to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation when he
[22:07] leaves office.
[22:09] The White House says legal details are still
[22:11] being worked out on the proposed gift, while
[22:13] Qatar says no final agreement has been reached.
[22:16] I think that was a very nice gesture.
[22:18] Now, I could be a stupid person and
[22:20] say, oh, no, we don't want a free
[22:21] plane.
[22:22] We get free things.
[22:23] We'll take one, too.
[22:24] Aviation experts tell NBC News the jet would
[22:27] likely have to be dismantled part by part
[22:29] to look for listening devices, then upgraded with
[22:32] expensive systems.
[22:34] Same story.
[22:34] And missile defense.
[22:36] Democrats are blasting the proposed gift as a
[22:39] threat to national security.
[22:41] What people will now see is.
[22:42] Wait a minute.
[22:43] Don't they want him dead?
[22:44] Isn't this wouldn't this be great?
[22:46] Yeah.
[22:47] Get on that plane, man.
[22:48] Who knows what's going on now?
[22:50] It's a threat to national security.
[22:52] All of a sudden.
[22:52] Blasting the proposed gift as a threat to
[22:55] national security.
[22:56] What people will now see is the most
[22:58] powerful man on Earth flying around in a
[23:00] plane paid for by a foreign government.
[23:04] It's disgusting.
[23:06] It's wildly corrupt.
[23:08] It's corrupt.
[23:09] There you go.
[23:10] It's corrupt.
[23:12] They all took the chum.
[23:14] It's like a chew toy.
[23:16] Like, you know, there's another aspect of my
[23:20] chew toy.
[23:21] Another aspect of this is to give the
[23:23] needle to Boeing for not finishing the jet.
[23:27] They're supposed to be.
[23:28] This was taking 10 years and they can't
[23:30] get this, you know, the 747 presidential upgrade
[23:33] done.
[23:34] To me, that was the whole point of
[23:36] saying it.
[23:37] That's what I think.
[23:37] I think it was one of the.
[23:39] Yeah, for sure.
[23:39] Well, but then he subsequently went and did,
[23:41] you know, like a hundred billion plus dollar
[23:44] deal for Boeing.
[23:46] Like, and he said, get those jets out
[23:48] there, boys.
[23:48] Come on now.
[23:49] So, yeah.
[23:52] Can't believe we're discussing this.
[23:55] But that's exactly what your propagandistic news media
[23:58] all around the world has done.
[24:00] And we only have one left.
[24:02] And this will take it to any reason.
[24:04] Saving ABC to the end.
[24:05] I do want to mention that on today's.
[24:08] It was very interesting on today's The View.
[24:12] They had the regular team and then they
[24:15] brought Kelsey Grammer on to talk about his.
[24:18] What does he have?
[24:19] He has a new movie book, a new
[24:22] book.
[24:23] What is it?
[24:24] Tell all book, because he's been 5 5
[24:26] about the murder of his sister 50 years
[24:30] ago.
[24:31] Kelsey Grammer is an interesting dude, man.
[24:35] So he's got this book.
[24:37] So they brought him out.
[24:38] Yeah.
[24:39] Sonny Hauston and Joy Behar were not on
[24:42] the set when Kelsey was on the set.
[24:44] Now, I thought, well, maybe they filmed it
[24:47] some other time.
[24:48] But once Kelsey left the set, those two
[24:50] came back on.
[24:51] I wonder why.
[24:52] Well, because Kelsey works for Fox and he's
[24:55] a Republican.
[24:57] Kelsey Grammer works for Fox?
[24:59] Yeah, he's on the Fox, whatever that streaming
[25:02] services doing history lessons.
[25:05] I missed that.
[25:07] Yeah, it's a gig.
[25:11] Well, it is a gig.
[25:12] But the fact is that those two stiffs
[25:14] would not.
[25:16] ABC has got to get it together.
[25:18] They can't put up with this guy.
[25:20] This is you can't do that.
[25:22] You can't walk out on a guest because
[25:24] of politics when they're talking about a book
[25:27] about a dead sister.
[25:29] Like anyone, like anyone cares what they do
[25:32] on The View.
[25:33] Who cares?
[25:34] Well, I guess the ABC execs sure don't
[25:36] care.
[25:37] No, no, they don't.
[25:39] But so here we go.
[25:40] So I save ABC for last because they're
[25:42] the worst.
[25:43] President Trump today defended the $400 million gift
[25:46] he wants to accept from the government of
[25:48] Qatar, a massive 747-8 luxury jet that's
[25:53] been called a flying palace.
[25:55] The jet, which is bigger and more luxurious
[25:57] than Air Force One, would almost certainly be
[25:59] the most expensive gift ever from a foreign
[26:02] power.
[26:03] It has two fully furnished floors, plush carpet,
[26:06] leather couches and two bedrooms.
[26:08] Under the entirely unprecedented arrangement, the Qatari royal
[26:11] family would give the plane to the Pentagon
[26:13] to be used as Air Force One.
[26:15] But shortly before Trump leaves office, ownership would
[26:18] transfer to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation.
[26:22] I would never be one to turn down
[26:24] that kind of an offer.
[26:26] I mean, I could be a stupid person
[26:27] and say, no, we don't want a free,
[26:30] very expensive airplane.
[26:31] Democrats say accepting the Qatari jet would be
[26:34] clearly illegal, violating the Constitution's ban on gifts
[26:38] from foreign heads of state.
[26:40] His shameless self-enrichment is without equal in
[26:43] American history.
[26:44] Hillary Clinton pointed to the president's comments that
[26:46] children might have to settle for just two
[26:49] dolls because of the impact of his tariffs.
[26:51] Clinton posting, so American children should make do
[26:54] with two dolls while Donald Trump gets a
[26:57] free sky palace from the Qatari government.
[27:00] Well done, ABC.
[27:02] Oh, well done.
[27:03] OK.
[27:04] And the top Democrat on the Armed Services
[27:06] Committee, Jack Reed, flagged alarming national security concerns,
[27:10] warning using the Qatari jet as the new
[27:12] Air Force One would, quote, pose immense counterintelligence
[27:16] risks by granting a foreign nation potential access
[27:20] to sensitive systems and communications.
[27:22] Trump today angrily dismissed the criticism.
[27:25] They're giving us a free jet.
[27:27] I could say, no, no, no, don't give
[27:29] us.
[27:29] I want to pay you a billion or
[27:31] 400 million or whatever it is.
[27:34] Or I could say, thank you very much.
[27:35] Attorney General Pam Bondi argues the arrangement with
[27:38] Qatar is legal, insisting the plane is not
[27:41] a bribe because the Qatari royal family is
[27:44] getting nothing in return.
[27:46] So that was Jonathan Karl, right?
[27:49] Yep.
[27:49] So then.
[27:50] So John, did you see Jonathan Karl getting
[27:52] interviewed about this huge story he's been talking
[27:55] about?
[27:56] No.
[27:57] Oh, oh, yes.
[27:59] In the meantime, we turn to the uproar
[28:00] over the 400 million dollar gift from the
[28:03] government of Qatar tonight, a luxury 747 jumbo
[28:06] jet to be used as Air Force One
[28:09] until the end of Trump's term when the
[28:11] White House says it would be decommissioned and
[28:13] donated to the Trump Library.
[28:15] Tonight, President Trump answering questions on this.
[28:17] And there are many critics asking, is this
[28:18] ethical?
[28:19] Is it legal?
[28:20] And how safe is it for an American
[28:21] president to be flying on a jet given
[28:23] to him by a foreign nation?
[28:25] President Trump saying he would be a stupid
[28:27] person to turn the offer down.
[28:29] Jonathan Karl broke the story.
[28:31] And John's back on this tonight.
[28:32] He broke the story.
[28:34] Not break the story.
[28:36] He broke it, baby.
[28:37] Jonathan Karl is the man.
[28:40] He broke the story.
[28:41] He had inside sources that, oh, they're giving
[28:43] Trump a jet.
[28:45] Someone in the White House called Jonathan Karl
[28:48] and said, that's why, by the way, that's
[28:52] why Trump did this.
[28:54] Mr. President, what do you say to people
[28:56] who view that luxury jet as a personal
[28:58] gift to you?
[28:59] Why not leave it behind?
[29:00] Your NBC fake news, right?
[29:02] Only ABC.
[29:03] Well, a few of you would.
[29:05] Let me tell you.
[29:06] So he calls out ABC fake news because
[29:09] he gave the story to ABC to humiliate
[29:12] them.
[29:13] It's so obvious what's going on here.
[29:15] And they took the bait and the hook
[29:18] and the line and the sinker.
[29:20] But Jonathan Karl, he's a hero.
[29:22] President Trump today defended the 400.
[29:25] That's similar to your clip.
[29:26] I want to get to the Jonathan Karl.
[29:27] He listens to this.
[29:30] OK.
[29:30] Trump today angrily dismissed the criticism.
[29:34] They're giving us a free jet.
[29:35] We had all that.
[29:36] Maybe this.
[29:37] OK, John, you broke the story.
[29:38] All right, John Karl, you broke the story.
[29:40] John, you laid out there many of the
[29:41] questions, but there's another one.
[29:42] And it's a big one.
[29:43] You know, folks are asking how safe would
[29:44] this be for an American president to be
[29:46] flying around on a jet given by a
[29:48] foreign government?
[29:48] And wouldn't this jet have to be significantly
[29:51] taken apart to make sure it's secure from
[29:53] surveillance, from spying?
[29:54] And how long would that take?
[29:56] David, it would require extensive modifications.
[29:59] The Air Force has strict requirements for any
[30:02] presidential aircraft in terms of the security and
[30:05] communications features.
[30:07] A presidential plane must be able to operate
[30:09] even in the event of a nuclear blast.
[30:12] And of course, as you mentioned, it would
[30:13] have to go through a security sweep to
[30:16] search for listening devices and tracking devices.
[30:19] How long would it take?
[30:20] The White House, White House officials have suggested
[30:22] it could be done by the end of
[30:24] the year.
[30:24] But many experts say it could actually take
[30:27] years to accomplish all of that.
[30:29] John Carl, who broke the story on this
[30:31] week.
[30:31] John, thank you.
[30:32] He broke the story.
[30:32] He was handed the story so they could
[30:36] be human.
[30:36] Trump is in his element here.
[30:38] And he got everything he wanted, including delusional
[30:42] Democrats.
[30:43] And the Democrats are fighting it only because
[30:44] they want to fight.
[30:45] They have Trump derangement syndrome.
[30:47] You know, if it was somebody else, they
[30:48] wouldn't fight.
[30:49] If you had a normal person, you had
[30:51] some stiff sitting behind you, they'd be fine.
[30:54] But they have Trump derangement syndrome.
[30:56] You know, Senator Schumer has become a Palestinian.
[31:00] Welcome.
[31:01] I don't know when they're going to give
[31:03] him the ceremony, whatever the ceremony may be.
[31:06] It's terrible what's happened to the Democrats.
[31:09] Yeah.
[31:09] So he got that extra.
[31:11] I thought France 24 did a great job
[31:14] because they pulled in some of his classic
[31:16] quotes while he was on the road.
[31:17] Touchdown of Air Force One in Doha for
[31:20] the second leg of Donald Trump's Middle East
[31:22] tour.
[31:23] And the red carpet is rolled out.
[31:25] Greeted on the tarmac by Qatar's emir, Tamim
[31:28] bin Hamad Al Fahmy.
[31:31] The U.S. president was treated to a
[31:33] traditional sword dance and a procession of camels
[31:36] for a formal welcome at Qatar's royal court,
[31:39] where Trump got down to business, signing an
[31:42] array of deals between Washington and Doha, including
[31:45] a record order of Boeing planes by Qatar
[31:47] Airways.
[31:48] From Boeing, that's the largest order of jets
[31:50] in the history of Boeing.
[31:51] That's pretty good.
[31:52] Over 200 billion dollars.
[31:55] Didn't hear anyone on ABC, NBC or CBS
[31:57] talk about that.
[31:59] But 160 in terms of the jets.
[32:02] That's fantastic.
[32:03] A joint statement on defense cooperation and a
[32:06] drone deal were also signed.
[32:08] The lavish welcome also saw a sit down
[32:10] in the luxurious Al Emiri Palace, where the
[32:13] U.S. president was full of praise.
[32:15] You're going to have a look at this.
[32:16] It's so beautiful.
[32:17] As a construction person, I'm seeing perfect marble.
[32:21] This is what they call perfecto.
[32:24] What a beautiful place.
[32:25] And we appreciate those camels.
[32:27] I haven't seen camels in a long time.
[32:29] Best camels ever.
[32:30] I love your camel.
[32:31] So you got beautiful camels.
[32:33] Trump also expressed his admiration for the Qatari
[32:35] emir and Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman,
[32:39] who he met in Riyadh on Tuesday.
[32:41] You two guys get along so well and
[32:42] like each other.
[32:43] You sort of remind me a little bit
[32:45] of each other, if you want to know
[32:46] the truth.
[32:47] They're both tall, handsome guys that happen to
[32:49] be very smart.
[32:51] A charm offensive in Qatar as Trump comes
[32:53] under fire for saying he wanted to accept
[32:56] a luxury jet worth $400 million from the
[32:59] oil rich Gulf country, arguing that he would
[33:02] be stupid to turn down a free gift.
[33:04] So, as I said, the BBC, they actually
[33:08] were reporting on stuff about this major trade
[33:12] deal.
[33:12] It's, you know, it's reported between 600 billion
[33:15] and 1.2 trillion dollars.
[33:17] I don't know exactly where it comes from,
[33:19] but it's impressive numbers.
[33:21] And at least they had some some journalistic
[33:23] reporting.
[33:24] President Trump is continuing his tour of the
[33:26] Middle East.
[33:27] On Wednesday, he was in Qatar, where he
[33:30] signed a series of deals, including a huge
[33:33] order for Boeing planes.
[33:35] It's the largest order of jets in the
[33:37] history of Boeing.
[33:38] That's pretty good.
[33:39] It's over 200 billion dollars, but 160 in
[33:44] terms of the jets.
[33:45] That's fantastic.
[33:46] So that's a record.
[33:47] And congratulations.
[33:48] What?
[33:50] What?
[33:50] Was that error message in the middle of
[33:52] that clip?
[33:53] Was that from your clip?
[33:55] He said 160.
[33:57] No, no, I'm talking about the window sound.
[34:00] No, I didn't hear a window sound.
[34:01] That's on your end.
[34:03] Mr. Boeing, get those planes out there.
[34:06] Our North America editor, Sarah Smith, is traveling
[34:09] with Mr. Trump.
[34:11] So what sort of welcome?
[34:12] Well, was Jonathan Karl traveling with Mr. Trump?
[34:15] I doubt it.
[34:16] Has he had on his tour so far?
[34:19] It's been very lavish.
[34:20] These Arab states that he's visiting seem to
[34:22] be competing with each other to show who
[34:25] can put on the more sumptuous welcome for
[34:28] Donald Trump.
[34:29] So as he came in from the airport
[34:30] this afternoon, he was met by a caravan
[34:33] of camels and there were dancing men with
[34:37] swords along the length of the highway.
[34:39] And now he's turning up for a state
[34:42] dinner at the Royal Palace.
[34:44] And yet again, there is all kinds of
[34:45] ceremony to greet him there.
[34:47] And he loves it.
[34:48] I mean, you can see how much he
[34:50] is enjoying this tour of the Middle East,
[34:53] where he is being feted by royalty and,
[34:56] you know, as he visits some of the
[34:58] wealthiest countries in the world.
[35:00] And he's able to seal some very lucrative
[35:02] deals as he goes around clearly enjoying himself.
[35:05] Not just lucrative deals, but of course, there's
[35:07] this huge arms deal with Saudi Arabia, which
[35:10] is a clear signal to the Iranians like,
[35:14] hey, we're not going to do anything, but
[35:16] these guys will.
[35:17] They don't like you.
[35:19] So all I have to do is snap
[35:20] my fingers and you guys are in trouble.
[35:22] So let's make a deal.
[35:24] We begin in Saudi Arabia.
[35:26] President Trump has made a raft of significant
[35:29] announcements in the Gulf state on the first
[35:31] day of his tour of the Middle East.
[35:34] Speaking after a lavish lunch hosted by the
[35:37] kingdom's crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, he said
[35:41] the two had signed commercial agreements worth more
[35:44] than $600 billion.
[35:46] The White House said these included the largest
[35:49] defense sales deal in history.
[35:52] That was a minor detail Jonathan Karl didn't
[35:54] bring up.
[35:55] Mr. Trump spoke at an investment forum in
[35:58] the Saudi capital Riyadh, heaping praise on his
[36:01] hosts.
[36:02] I want to thank his royal highness, the
[36:04] crown prince, for that incredible introduction.
[36:08] He's an incredible man.
[36:10] Known him a long time now.
[36:12] There's nobody like him.
[36:13] I've never forgotten the exceptional hospitality show to
[36:17] us by King Salman, who's just, we talk
[36:22] about a great man.
[36:23] That is a great man.
[36:25] That is a great man, a great family.
[36:28] President Trump said Iran was the most destructive
[36:31] force in the Middle East and contrasted its
[36:34] actions with what he deemed as positive developments
[36:37] on the Arabian Peninsula.
[36:39] In his speech, Mr. Trump urged Tehran to
[36:42] make what he called a deal with Washington
[36:44] or face devastating consequences.
[36:47] I'm here today not merely to condemn the
[36:50] past chaos of Iran's leaders, but to offer
[36:53] them a new path toward a far better
[36:56] and more hopeful future.
[36:58] I want to make a deal with Iran.
[37:00] If I can make a deal with Iran,
[37:02] I'll be very happy if we're going to
[37:03] make your region and the world a safer
[37:06] place.
[37:07] But if Iran's leadership rejects this olive branch
[37:10] and continues to attack their neighbors, then we
[37:13] will have no choice but to inflict massive
[37:16] maximum pressure.
[37:18] Pressure.
[37:18] Drive Iranian oil exports to zero and take
[37:22] all action required to stop the regime from
[37:25] ever having a nuclear weapon.
[37:27] Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.
[37:30] This is so good.
[37:32] He's in Saudi Arabia and says, I'm here
[37:35] to make a deal with Iran.
[37:36] This is called the $600 billion deal of
[37:39] devastation we will unleash on you if you
[37:42] don't do a deal.
[37:44] It's baffling that no news media puts these
[37:48] two little bits together.
[37:49] Well, NTD did.
[37:51] Wow, NTD.
[37:53] NTD.
[37:54] I mean, Fox did.
[37:57] Not where's your clip?
[37:59] Well, I don't have to play those clips.
[38:01] But the point is, is that it has
[38:04] it was discussed.
[38:05] But you're right.
[38:05] What you're saying is that the big three.
[38:08] Yes.
[38:09] Said nothing because they were there in the
[38:12] bag for the Democrat Party and Chuck Schumer.
[38:15] Yes.
[38:16] And I agree.
[38:17] And then this was underplayed, I felt in
[38:19] the United States.
[38:20] But the meeting with the the new the
[38:24] new guy in Syria, who's not a new
[38:26] guy.
[38:27] We've known about this guy, but it's OK.
[38:29] This is a guy.
[38:30] And Trump will go meet him.
[38:31] It wasn't expected to be a long meeting.
[38:33] Donald Trump had merely said he would say
[38:36] hello to the Syrian president, Ahmed al-Shara.
[38:39] I'll just say hello to Saudi Arabia.
[38:43] But this was the first time in a
[38:45] quarter of a century that an American leader
[38:48] met their Syrian counterpart.
[38:49] And more than that, Mr. al-Shara leads
[38:52] a group still listed as a terrorist organization
[38:55] by many countries, an offshoot of al-Qaeda.
[38:58] But speaking afterwards, President Trump made clear his
[39:01] name.
[39:01] That brief hello is intended to be just
[39:04] the start of a new diplomatic era between
[39:07] the two countries.
[39:08] Brief hello.
[39:08] We are currently exploring normalizing relations with Syria's
[39:12] new government, as you know, beginning with my
[39:15] meeting with President Ahmed al-Shara.
[39:19] Secretary Rubio's meeting with the Syrian foreign minister
[39:23] in Turkey.
[39:25] I am also ordering the cessation of sanctions
[39:28] against Syria to give them a fresh start.
[39:30] Fresh start.
[39:31] And that, of course, represents a major concrete
[39:33] development in the new U.S.-Syria diplomacy, a
[39:36] concrete step which is not merely of interest
[39:39] to businesspeople and economists.
[39:41] Just listen to these ordinary Syrians welcoming the
[39:44] news on the streets of the capital, Damascus.
[39:48] The feeling is indescribable.
[39:51] Unbelievable happiness.
[39:53] Hopefully, God helps this country and it will
[39:56] be better for everyone.
[39:58] Congratulations to everyone.
[40:02] There is incredible happiness for all Syrians.
[40:05] It will be great for our country.
[40:07] Construction will return.
[40:09] The refugees will return.
[40:10] Everyone will return.
[40:11] The prices will drop.
[40:13] There is good to come, God willing.
[40:14] It just needs a bit of patience.
[40:16] But good things are coming our way.
[40:18] So you and I would just be like,
[40:20] OK, well, that's interesting.
[40:21] A guy used to be a terrorist.
[40:23] And now we're going to wipe the slate
[40:25] clean.
[40:25] It's probably a little jab towards Israel at
[40:28] the same time.
[40:30] But see, this is where we're doing things
[40:32] wrong.
[40:33] We need to be like Scott Horton.
[40:36] We need to go on Judge Knapp show
[40:38] and talk about what a horrible dictator.
[40:41] And this is no good.
[40:42] Before you go on to that clip, since
[40:45] you're going and going, I don't want you
[40:47] to get too far off the track.
[40:50] But I know what you're headed.
[40:54] Just as a subtext, I want to mention
[40:56] the fact that this show has determined early
[40:59] on during the ISIS era that ISIS was
[41:02] created by us.
[41:04] And the one thing that was very noticeable
[41:06] about ISIS is they never attacked Israel.
[41:08] They never had anything negative to do with
[41:10] Israel.
[41:10] No, Israel is their handlers.
[41:12] I think that's pretty well established now.
[41:15] So so when Trump meets with his ex
[41:18] ISIS guy.
[41:20] He's an employee.
[41:21] Yeah.
[41:23] Yeah, exactly.
[41:24] But you see, that's not the way to
[41:26] go.
[41:27] That's not what gets people to listen to
[41:29] our show.
[41:30] I'm just I'm doing media deconstruction on ourselves.
[41:33] This is going to be the theme for
[41:34] the show.
[41:34] It is.
[41:35] Don't worry, I've got to.
[41:36] I got TikTok clips coming.
[41:37] I know.
[41:37] I know.
[41:38] You're going to save the day with TikTok
[41:39] clubs.
[41:40] I can't say it.
[41:41] TikTok, TikTok, Klop Klip Klops.
[41:44] So, yeah.
[41:44] So, of course, Scott Horton, who wrote the
[41:47] book.
[41:47] He wrote the book on everything.
[41:48] He went on Judge Knapp to set the
[41:50] record straight.
[41:51] According to Max Blumenthal, they are slaughtering Alawites
[41:55] and Christians in Syria.
[41:58] By the thousands.
[41:59] This is the guy that Trump embraced.
[42:01] This is the guy that Trump praised.
[42:03] And this is the guy, the head of
[42:05] the government, theoretically, from which Trump removed sanctions.
[42:10] This is a guy who, until a month
[42:12] ago, Trump's own State Department had a $10
[42:14] million bounty on his head.
[42:17] Yeah.
[42:17] And look, the thing is, I wrote my
[42:20] book is called Enough Already, Time to End
[42:23] the War on Terrorism.
[42:24] And I don't argue in there that there's
[42:25] no enemies out there.
[42:26] There are Bin Ladenites out there.
[42:28] And I would never recommend in a million
[42:30] years that Trump lead another war against this
[42:33] new Bin Ladenite state in Syria.
[42:35] Somebody else is going to have to work
[42:36] that out.
[42:37] But for God's sake, we shouldn't be backing
[42:39] him.
[42:40] So lift the sanctions, yes, but officially normalize
[42:43] relations with them.
[42:45] I don't know why.
[42:46] Why can't we lean on the Turks to
[42:47] put somebody who's not a former, supposedly, sworn
[42:52] blood oath member of Al-Qaeda in charge
[42:55] of Damascus?
[42:56] It's crazy.
[42:56] And clearly, it's up to the Turks to
[42:58] decide.
[42:58] They have 100,000 times the state power
[43:02] that this new Syrian regime has.
[43:05] They can go in there and change things.
[43:07] Why does this have to be the status
[43:08] quo?
[43:08] See, this is what we're doing wrong.
[43:10] You need to go on Judge Knapp's show,
[43:11] and you really need to get out there,
[43:12] John.
[43:13] You need to say, listen, I wrote the
[43:15] book on vinegar.
[43:16] And I know that this is not the
[43:18] way to go with Syria.
[43:19] We can't do this.
[43:21] This is a murdering butcher.
[43:22] We can't have any of this happening.
[43:24] And Trump is corrupt.
[43:26] With respect to Mohammed bin Salman, Trump has
[43:31] to cozy up to him.
[43:32] Trump's boys are building high-rises in Saudi
[43:35] Arabia.
[43:38] Yeah, Trump's boys.
[43:40] I'm not going to talk to you because
[43:41] you butchered, I forget the fellow's name, the
[43:44] reporter from the Washington Post.
[43:47] Khashoggi, I can't remember his name.
[43:49] Khashoggi's name.
[43:51] Yeah, Khashoggi, Crown Prince Bonesaw, we used to
[43:56] call him there.
[43:57] No, NBC called him that.
[43:59] There's still no actual evidence that took place.
[44:02] Scott Horton wrote the book.
[44:03] I think I might have got Kennedy in
[44:05] trouble on Fox Business Channel for calling him
[44:07] that.
[44:08] But yeah, he is a murderer.
[44:11] And he's, of course, the butcher of the
[44:13] Yemenis from 2015 through 22 as well.
[44:17] Mohammed bin Salman is a terrible guy.
[44:19] And I don't know the intricacies of Trump's
[44:21] son's business relations over there.
[44:23] They ought to be able to keep that
[44:24] separate, even if they are doing that.
[44:26] And they should not be doing that while
[44:27] he is in power.
[44:28] But even if they are, they ought to
[44:30] be able to keep that separate.
[44:31] And just like Joe Biden ought to be
[44:33] able to say, I'm sorry, your business interests
[44:36] don't mean anything compared to the foreign policy
[44:38] interests of the United States of America.
[44:40] And if we have to play hardball with
[44:41] these countries, we're going to.
[44:44] But yeah, clearly, it's a major disincentive for
[44:46] doing that.
[44:47] Yeah, see, this is our problem.
[44:48] We're too glib.
[44:49] We're too cavalier.
[44:50] We're laughing.
[44:51] We're laughing about everything to make people happy
[44:53] and to make them not so somber about
[44:54] the news.
[44:55] We have to be like, well, this is
[44:57] serious business, man.
[44:58] And they can't accept a jet.
[45:00] What is your opinion of this $400 million
[45:04] plane as a gift that the Qataris want
[45:08] to give to the Defense Department and then
[45:11] to Trump's library?
[45:13] I mean, do the Qataris give these things
[45:15] not expecting a quid pro quo?
[45:18] I can't imagine.
[45:20] And, you know, it's really a shame.
[45:24] I mean, the whole idea is just crazy.
[45:26] Trump ought to obviously just turn them down
[45:28] and say thank you.
[45:29] But no, thank you.
[45:30] It's a massive conflict of interest.
[45:32] Just that there any foreign state, if it
[45:34] was the English or the French or anybody
[45:36] else, the Statue of Liberty, anybody, Germans, we
[45:39] shouldn't be doing this kind of deal with
[45:41] any foreign country.
[45:43] And clearly, when it's a monarchy, a royal
[45:47] monarchy in the Middle East, it's crazy.
[45:49] They were camel drivers, man, not a monarchy.
[45:52] They just made them made up some titles
[45:54] for themselves that we would have that kind
[45:56] of relationship with there.
[45:58] And then, yes, of course, just like with
[46:00] every foreign expenditure in this country, there's a
[46:03] massive conflict of interest, you know, with all
[46:06] of the exactly.
[46:07] And it's you got to take responsibility.
[46:09] Don't worry, I'll spare the rest.
[46:11] But it gets down to Israel eventually.
[46:13] Believe me, we should not be paying for
[46:15] Israel to slaughter innocent people.
[46:18] That's what it always comes down to with
[46:19] these guys.
[46:20] Well, there's also there's another thing going on.
[46:23] I have a clip that kind of backs
[46:24] up that clip again on Judge Knapp.
[46:27] Hey, you're fishing in my in my pond.
[46:31] Well, this clip has been floating around and
[46:34] this is Scott Ritter.
[46:37] Another fine, another fine, another fine example.
[46:41] And I'll say this.
[46:43] This is this started once Trump.
[46:47] Here's the backstory was written up in the
[46:49] newsletter about how it's possible that Hexeth was
[46:55] set up.
[46:55] Yes.
[46:56] They wanted him out.
[46:58] They wanted him out because they want because
[47:02] Mike Waltz and all that.
[47:03] There's still neocons around and people don't like
[47:06] using the term anymore because it's I don't
[47:08] know why.
[47:09] But Mark Levin is part of this.
[47:12] And he went after Tucker Carlson on his
[47:15] on his radio show and calling him Oswald
[47:19] the 30 mocking him for being a kind
[47:23] of a pretty boy.
[47:24] And I went back and listened to the
[47:27] Dave Smith thing where Tucker brought up Mark
[47:29] Levin and Dave Smith.
[47:32] The Dave Smith clip, which is the one
[47:35] I have is going to do with this
[47:36] particular topic.
[47:39] But Tucker was very mild about complaining about
[47:41] Mark Levin.
[47:42] He said that Mark Levin is once war
[47:44] with Iran.
[47:45] And he does.
[47:46] If you listen to Mark Levin radio show
[47:48] or his TV stuff, he wants war with
[47:51] Iran.
[47:51] He wants Iran to be bombed to oblivion.
[47:53] You know, Israel's the greatest place in the
[47:55] world.
[47:56] And bomb Iran bomb.
[47:58] He's the bomb bomb bomb.
[48:00] Yes, bomb Iran McCain.
[48:02] John McCain.
[48:03] Yes.
[48:04] And Mike Waltz apparently was doing a thing
[48:08] with Netanyahu and the whole set up to
[48:12] get Hex was actually a set up.
[48:14] It was kind of a double crossed.
[48:17] And the idea was to get rid of
[48:19] Mike Waltz because he has been.
[48:23] Doing back deals with Netanyahu to bomb Iran.
[48:27] Yes.
[48:27] And Trump is totally against it.
[48:30] And but that's one of the reasons he
[48:31] went to the Middle East to tell everybody
[48:33] there that, look, we'll do it, but we
[48:35] don't want to.
[48:36] No, well, we'll have the Saudis do it.
[48:38] We don't want to.
[48:39] But if we have, we don't want anybody
[48:40] to do this.
[48:41] He doesn't want to.
[48:43] No, he doesn't want to do anything like
[48:45] that.
[48:45] He's more anti war than Dave Smith and
[48:47] Scott Horton combined.
[48:49] So you got these guys coming out of
[48:51] the woodwork.
[48:54] And he would include Douglas Murray in that,
[48:57] as I discussed in that article in the
[48:59] newsletter that people should be subscribed to.
[49:02] But here is a Scott Ritter all of
[49:06] a sudden turning into a neocon and turning
[49:09] on the whole administration, Trump and everybody in
[49:13] between in a way that is just like,
[49:15] what is wrong with this guy?
[49:17] Marco Rubio is a bigger traitor to Donald
[49:19] Trump and Donald Trump's policies than Mike Pompeo
[49:22] was.
[49:23] It is it is Marco Rubio that has
[49:26] sunk the Russia policy and he's sinking the
[49:28] Iran policy.
[49:29] He's preventing Trump from achieving the policies.
[49:32] When I say prevent Trump, it's because Trump
[49:34] is ultimately, at the end of the day,
[49:35] a very weak and insecure man who doesn't
[49:39] have what it takes to stand up, look
[49:41] people in the eye and say, you're fired.
[49:43] And that's what he needs to do to
[49:45] Marco Rubio right now, fire him, terminate his
[49:47] existence.
[49:48] But he took 100 million dollars from Edelman's
[49:51] widow.
[49:51] And, you know, gosh, he surrounded himself with
[49:54] the wrong people.
[49:55] But Donald Trump, this is why he's failing
[49:57] right now because of Marco Rubio.
[49:59] And Marco Rubio is behind Mike Walsh being
[50:02] kicked out.
[50:03] Does Donald Trump understand what's at stake in
[50:07] the special military operation in Ukraine?
[50:09] No, I don't think Donald Trump.
[50:11] I don't think Donald Trump can spell Russia,
[50:13] let alone understand the complexities of Russia.
[50:15] He certainly doesn't understand Ukraine because he is
[50:18] although he's a schizophrenic when it comes to
[50:21] Zelensky.
[50:21] One minute he rightly calls him out as
[50:23] this irresponsible dictator.
[50:24] The next minute he speaks about him as
[50:26] if he's the legitimate leader of a viable
[50:28] nation state.
[50:29] He doesn't know how to deal with NATO
[50:31] or Europe.
[50:32] He's all over the place.
[50:34] And one of the reasons because of the
[50:35] conflicting guidance he's getting from his national security
[50:38] team, led by Marco Rubio, who is, you
[50:41] know, continues to sell, you know, Europe is
[50:44] a viable ally.
[50:45] Europe is not our ally.
[50:48] This is a very enlightening clip for me.
[50:51] The Fred freak out crew has been talking
[50:54] this way about Rubio for a couple of
[50:56] weeks, which means it's in the it's in
[50:59] the it's in the transom is being transmitted.
[51:01] And we know exactly where that comes from.
[51:03] Defense.
[51:05] Former defense intelligence people.
[51:08] And so Rubio not to be trusted.
[51:10] Be careful.
[51:12] And and our problem here, John, is that
[51:15] we are swimming against the tide.
[51:18] And the tide is you've got to be
[51:20] against our tax dollars paying for Israel to
[51:24] kill people.
[51:25] Forget our tax dollars anywhere else, killing people
[51:28] in much larger numbers.
[51:30] But that is exactly what we are up
[51:33] against.
[51:33] And that's why people like.
[51:37] And and I hope you go to the
[51:39] Tucker clip next, because I listened to the
[51:41] Dave Smith.
[51:43] Ball spike show with Tucker.
[51:48] And I think it was complete, a complete
[51:51] mistake the way they analyze that conversation.
[51:54] I'll just reiterate it very shortly.
[51:56] Douglas Murray went there and he can't because
[51:59] Tucker's correct.
[52:00] Douglas Murray's like a boarding school kid and
[52:04] he debates in a certain way and he
[52:05] and he says things in a certain way
[52:07] in that regard.
[52:09] And but what he was saying was.
[52:12] We on the right and speaking for him,
[52:15] not for me, we on the right have
[52:17] to be careful what we're saying, because the
[52:20] kind of stuff that we're talking about with
[52:22] Israel leads to Jew hate.
[52:26] That's what he was trying to say.
[52:28] And he just couldn't say it that way
[52:30] because he knew that, you know, I'm Jewish,
[52:33] you know, everyone, Scott Horton, I'm Jewish.
[52:35] That's not the point.
[52:37] The point is, that's what's going on.
[52:40] That is the narrative, regardless of what our
[52:43] tax dollars are doing in every other nook
[52:45] and cranny of the world, killing many more
[52:48] people.
[52:49] That's the narrative which is based on the
[52:51] whole Whitney Webb conspiracy bull crap that Israel
[52:55] has the goods on everybody and that this
[52:58] is why we don't have the Epstein papers,
[53:00] because we'll find out that the entire Congress
[53:03] and Senate and everybody's being blackmailed for for
[53:06] kiddie fiddling.
[53:08] You know, is there some of that?
[53:09] No doubt.
[53:10] But is that rampant?
[53:11] No, it's the other way around.
[53:13] We control Israel, as is witnessed by President
[53:17] Trump doing a deal with the Houthis.
[53:19] Hey, stop bombing our ships.
[53:20] Do whatever you want to Israel.
[53:23] It's the other way around.
[53:25] And people are just they can't stand us
[53:27] for it, John.
[53:28] That's the problem.
[53:29] That is it.
[53:30] That's the only thing.
[53:32] What else am I going to do?
[53:35] What else am I going to do?
[53:36] So no, I'm not going to play the
[53:39] Dave because the Dave Smith clips are not
[53:42] about what you just said.
[53:43] I think you summarized it beautifully.
[53:45] OK, I do have some Trump in the
[53:47] Middle East analysis clips that bring in all
[53:50] kinds of interesting information that nobody discussed.
[53:53] And I think it's all good stuff.
[53:55] This is NTD, I'm presuming.
[53:57] Yes, because I have to say this NTD,
[54:00] they bring in these experts and they go
[54:03] back and forth with Tiffany and they really
[54:06] bring out a lot of stuff that other
[54:08] analysts on other shows and Fox and all
[54:11] the rest and Fox is really shallow, which
[54:14] is what the Dave Smith clips about, by
[54:16] the way.
[54:16] I'm sorry, I have to interject one more
[54:18] thing and then I'll be quiet about it
[54:19] because.
[54:20] No, if you're on a roll on this
[54:22] topic, so keep talking.
[54:24] OK, so again, I can see in the
[54:26] troll room.
[54:27] OK, so we control Israel by having an
[54:29] Israeli handler for every one of our congressmen.
[54:31] It's AIPAC, man.
[54:32] OK, I'll say it to you one more
[54:34] time.
[54:36] Follow the money.
[54:37] AIPAC gets its money from the American Israeli
[54:41] Education Foundation.
[54:44] Yeah, there's some rich Jews and American Jews
[54:47] who donate to that.
[54:48] But the bulk of the money that goes
[54:50] to AIPAC is all from military contractors.
[54:54] It's Raytheon, it's Boeing.
[54:57] AIPAC is a military industrial complex system that
[55:02] that's where the money is coming from, not
[55:04] from Israel.
[55:05] It's coming from our own companies who want
[55:08] to are our congressmen and senators controlled by
[55:12] the military industrial complex.
[55:14] Hello, Eisenhower.
[55:15] Yes, of course they are.
[55:18] And the few that go against it.
[55:20] I see you guy from Missouri whose wife
[55:23] died all of a sudden.
[55:26] After he told everybody exactly how it worked.
[55:29] It is not Israel that's controlling our Congress.
[55:32] It is the it is the contractors, the
[55:35] big military industrial complex.
[55:38] Where does the term come from?
[55:40] From the warning President Eisenhower gave to us.
[55:44] That's the warning.
[55:45] He didn't say, watch out for Israel.
[55:47] They're going to get us.
[55:48] They're going to control us.
[55:49] No, you're being fooled by AIPAC nonsense.
[55:54] All right, I'm done.
[55:56] I got to say, I just got to
[55:57] reiterate.
[55:58] No, we were wrong before.
[55:59] We've said it before.
[56:02] And we say it again.
[56:03] And I'm sorry, Massey from Kentucky.
[56:06] I'm sorry.
[56:07] Yeah, Massey.
[56:07] Poor Massey.
[56:09] And he just keeps, he's oblivious.
[56:12] He's a good guy.
[56:13] And he said exactly how it works.
[56:16] And everyone took that to be Israel's got
[56:18] the goods.
[56:19] No, they will primary you.
[56:21] How do they primary you?
[56:22] With lots of money.
[56:23] Where does the money come from?
[56:24] Follow the money.
[56:26] American-Israeli Education Foundation.
[56:28] Look at the 10 at the form 990s.
[56:31] Look at the money.
[56:32] It's Boeing.
[56:33] It's Raytheon.
[56:34] It's the huge military contractors.
[56:36] That's the problem.
[56:42] Yes.
[56:43] Let's do some analysis.
[56:45] Let's go to the analysis from NTD.
[56:49] Progress report on President Trump's first trip to
[56:51] the Middle East.
[56:52] Like much of his presidency, it involves a
[56:54] lot of deals and surprises.
[56:56] One of which was his meeting today with
[56:58] Syria's leader, a former member of Al Qaeda,
[57:01] urging him to normalize relations with Israel.
[57:03] That happened after Trump announced he would lift
[57:05] sanctions on Syria.
[57:07] His actions are even drawing some support from
[57:10] congressional Democrats.
[57:11] Joining me now to discuss all of this
[57:13] is David Wormser, Middle East Affairs Analyst at
[57:15] the Center for Security Policy and Foreign Policy
[57:18] Specialist.
[57:18] Oh, it sounds like a spook.
[57:20] What kind of guy is this?
[57:21] How come we don't have one of these
[57:23] operations?
[57:24] The Center for Security Policy.
[57:27] Yeah.
[57:27] Okay.
[57:28] David, thank you so much for joining us.
[57:29] A slew of developments coming out of Trump's
[57:31] Middle East trip, as mentioned above, Trump's lifting
[57:34] sanctions on Syria and met with the current
[57:36] leader who calls himself a reformed terrorist.
[57:39] How big of a change in diplomacy is
[57:41] this on Trump's part?
[57:42] What are his goals here?
[57:44] Well, I think he did it somewhat as
[57:45] a favor to the Saudis.
[57:47] The Saudis really were pushing for this.
[57:50] And there wasn't an overarching reason that he
[57:53] saw to completely stiff the Saudis on it.
[57:57] So while there's grave reservations, and those are,
[58:00] first of all, his terrorist past, Shara, the
[58:04] leader of Syria's terrorist past, number one.
[58:06] And number two, the fact that Syria is
[58:08] a divided country, it's not unified.
[58:11] So when Trump met Shara, he essentially said,
[58:14] listen, I'm willing to work with you.
[58:16] He said it in very diplomatic ways, and
[58:18] it was very kind.
[58:19] But he said, listen, I'll work with you,
[58:21] but you've got to put your country together
[58:22] and you're on probation.
[58:24] So he did lift the sanctions, but they
[58:27] can be reimposed if necessary.
[58:29] So I think this was more what he
[58:31] was giving the Saudis.
[58:33] And he walked into something he may have
[58:36] realized, he may not have realized.
[58:37] I'm not sure.
[58:38] But it was really a very aggressive power
[58:41] play by the Saudis against the Qataris, who
[58:44] are at strategic odds with each other.
[58:47] This was really in the backdrop to this.
[58:50] The backstory to this is the Saudis were
[58:52] trying to outdance the Qataris.
[58:56] Wow.
[58:57] Yes.
[58:59] Well, President Trump is genius.
[59:00] Hey, I'm going to go get money from
[59:02] all these guys.
[59:03] Oh, no, this is what you, this is
[59:05] sales.
[59:05] Yeah, it's- They used to, PC Magazine
[59:07] sales guys I used to work with, I
[59:10] mean, I never got to deals or anything,
[59:12] but I used to always take sales training
[59:14] and try to see what they were up
[59:15] to, because it was interesting.
[59:16] And one of the publishers said, well, yeah,
[59:18] here's what I like to do.
[59:19] You got these two computer companies and you
[59:22] say, you go into one of them and
[59:24] you say, look how much your competition's going
[59:27] to spend on advertising this next quarter.
[59:29] Yes, that's what you do.
[59:31] Yes.
[59:31] You're not going to let them outspend you,
[59:33] are you?
[59:34] I forgot to look.
[59:35] Was President Trump wearing his brown shoes?
[59:39] I don't know, but he wore the purple
[59:41] tie, which is very rare in Saudi Arabia.
[59:44] This is a tip.
[59:46] And then he goes to, when he goes
[59:48] to Qatar, he goes and he compliments the
[59:52] two guys and he keeps bringing in Ben
[59:53] Salman's name.
[59:54] And the thing is that anyone who follows
[59:57] this closely, they hate each other.
[59:59] Yeah, of course.
[1:00:01] And so Trump is playing it, you know,
[1:00:03] and he's just having, he must be amusing
[1:00:05] the hell out of himself.
[1:00:07] But I like this guy's analysis that it
[1:00:09] was Ben Salman that got Trump to, hey,
[1:00:11] I want meet the guy from Syria.
[1:00:14] Maybe you can fix, you know, patch that
[1:00:15] up.
[1:00:18] And that's what he did.
[1:00:20] Ben Salman's a more powerful guy than in
[1:00:22] this whole picture.
[1:00:24] You mean Prince Bonesaw?
[1:00:28] Bonesaw.
[1:00:29] Bonesaw's pretty, pretty talented.
[1:00:31] I love how they think that that guy,
[1:00:33] like Ben Salman himself, saw Saad Khashoggi in
[1:00:37] little bits and pieces.
[1:00:38] Yeah, I'm sure.
[1:00:39] I'm sure of it.
[1:00:40] You're following the mainstream narrative, people.
[1:00:46] Yeah, let's go on.
[1:00:47] I have five of these.
[1:00:49] Yeah, OK, we'll move on.
[1:00:50] I want to get to that.
[1:00:51] But first, how likely are we to see
[1:00:52] Syria sign on to the Abraham Accords?
[1:00:55] I don't think it's going to be very
[1:00:57] time soon, very soon.
[1:01:00] First of all, Syria, the government only controls
[1:01:02] 40 percent of the country.
[1:01:04] Number one.
[1:01:05] Number two.
[1:01:05] Number one.
[1:01:06] Number two.
[1:01:06] Number one.
[1:01:07] Number two.
[1:01:07] OK, stop the clip.
[1:01:10] I'm stopping.
[1:01:11] I am sick and tired.
[1:01:13] This started with Biden.
[1:01:14] I'm sick and tired.
[1:01:15] You start to hear it all the time.
[1:01:17] Number one.
[1:01:17] Number two.
[1:01:18] Yes, I'm hearing it on Fox.
[1:01:20] I'm hearing it from Emily Campagno.
[1:01:25] I'm hearing it from Gutfeld.
[1:01:27] Everybody.
[1:01:28] Number one.
[1:01:29] Number two.
[1:01:29] Number one.
[1:01:30] Number two.
[1:01:31] Number one.
[1:01:31] Number two.
[1:01:32] I'm sick of it.
[1:01:34] I'm with you.
[1:01:35] First or well, first of all, there's a
[1:01:39] million things you can say.
[1:01:40] They're number one.
[1:01:41] Number two.
[1:01:42] Well, it's because these people all got a
[1:01:44] briefing, a memo, and it had little numbers
[1:01:45] next to it.
[1:01:46] One.
[1:01:47] Say this.
[1:01:47] Two.
[1:01:48] Say that.
[1:01:49] OK, that's number one.
[1:01:51] And what was number two?
[1:01:52] I got number two.
[1:01:53] Number two was this.
[1:01:53] That's what's happening there.
[1:01:55] Number one.
[1:01:55] Number two.
[1:01:56] Number one.
[1:01:57] Number two.
[1:01:57] Number one.
[1:01:58] Number two.
[1:01:58] The minorities are gravitating toward Israel.
[1:02:01] So there's some tension between Syria and Israel
[1:02:04] over the minorities.
[1:02:05] The Israelis are protecting now the Christians to
[1:02:08] some extent, certainly the Druze and some of
[1:02:10] the others.
[1:02:12] So I think it's a long time coming
[1:02:14] before Syria is put together and Syria is
[1:02:17] in a comfortable state to deal with Israel.
[1:02:20] Then you have the strategic overlay where Syria
[1:02:23] is part of a larger strategic battle.
[1:02:26] And that may be more the key to
[1:02:27] what drives the Abraham Accords in the long
[1:02:30] run.
[1:02:30] But for the moment, Syria is way too
[1:02:32] much of a political football to initiate and
[1:02:35] join those accords.
[1:02:37] Where is someone talking about the son-in
[1:02:40] -law, Jared?
[1:02:44] Hasn't anyone brought up Jared yet?
[1:02:46] Jared's been completely out of this.
[1:02:48] Jared has.
[1:02:48] Oh, Jared's taken a billion dollars from the
[1:02:50] Saudis.
[1:02:51] Jared, Jared, Jared, Jared.
[1:02:52] Another Jew.
[1:02:53] Jared the Jew.
[1:02:58] Somebody should ask the question, where's Jared?
[1:03:02] Hereby asked.
[1:03:02] But nobody does.
[1:03:03] No, of course not.
[1:03:04] With Trump's Middle East trip, how do you
[1:03:07] see this fitting in with his strategy for
[1:03:09] dealing with Iran?
[1:03:10] Because, for instance, we heard in Trump's speech
[1:03:12] with the Saudis that he doesn't believe in
[1:03:14] permanent enemies, signaling a softening on Tehran, but
[1:03:17] reiterating that the U.S. will not allow
[1:03:19] it to have a nuclear weapon.
[1:03:21] How are you reading that?
[1:03:22] Yeah, it's a great question.
[1:03:23] I think what happened here is that there's
[1:03:26] a number of reasons why he went to
[1:03:27] Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
[1:03:28] UAE is kind of with Saudi Arabia.
[1:03:31] So by bringing Qatar and Saudi Arabia into
[1:03:35] this happy family, and again, I think in
[1:03:37] the long run, it's not such a happy
[1:03:39] family.
[1:03:40] I think Qatar and Saudi Arabia have two
[1:03:41] very different agendas and are not very friendly
[1:03:44] to each other.
[1:03:45] But nevertheless, the strategy here, I think, was
[1:03:48] if you get Qatar and Saudi Arabia, you
[1:03:51] pull them out of the Chinese orbit, which
[1:03:53] is protecting Iran.
[1:03:55] You pull them away from Iran, and you
[1:03:58] essentially isolate Iran in the region.
[1:04:01] And when you isolate Iran in the region,
[1:04:03] and then if you impose sanctions, Iran really
[1:04:06] starts facing binary choices.
[1:04:08] You're alone.
[1:04:09] You're sanctioned.
[1:04:10] You're blockaded.
[1:04:11] The Chinese can't help you.
[1:04:13] The rest of the region's abandoned you, and
[1:04:15] the Israelis are about to come after you.
[1:04:17] So you have a choice.
[1:04:18] Give up your nuclear program and join this
[1:04:21] happy family or pursue that, but then you're
[1:04:25] going to face the consequences.
[1:04:27] So I think that's really the Iran strategy
[1:04:29] behind some of this.
[1:04:32] Yes, yeah, of course.
[1:04:34] Give it up, Iran.
[1:04:36] And it's not the Iranian people.
[1:04:37] You know, this is another thing.
[1:04:39] I'm so tired.
[1:04:41] You know, I was tired of now.
[1:04:45] I was talking to some Fred Freakout people,
[1:04:48] and I'm like, you know, Trump's abandoning Israel.
[1:04:54] What do you mean?
[1:04:55] Well, he's no longer talking to Netanyahu.
[1:04:57] Netanyahu is not Israel.
[1:04:59] It's Netanyahu.
[1:05:01] Now, Iran is not all the Iranian people.
[1:05:03] Iran is actually pretty cool looking these days.
[1:05:06] It's modern.
[1:05:07] People aren't wearing the hijabs anymore.
[1:05:09] Women are walking around in skirts, showing their
[1:05:12] ankles.
[1:05:13] You know, Russia, Russia is not, it's Putin.
[1:05:18] You have a problem with Putin.
[1:05:19] This is all dumb.
[1:05:21] It's completely dumb.
[1:05:23] And the people just sit around, go, what
[1:05:27] are they feeding me?
[1:05:28] Let me eat it all up.
[1:05:30] The Jews, I got it.
[1:05:33] They're running the world, man.
[1:05:38] Yeah, this all started when we got rid
[1:05:41] of no agenda social.
[1:05:42] This is when it all started.
[1:05:44] This is when we would start on the
[1:05:45] downhill slope.
[1:05:48] Because we got rid of them.
[1:05:49] You mean when it formed?
[1:05:51] No, no, no.
[1:05:52] When they pulled the plug, that's, I call
[1:05:55] that getting rid of them.
[1:05:56] When they pulled the plug, I didn't pull
[1:05:57] any plug.
[1:05:58] When they pulled the plug, that's when people
[1:05:59] know those guys, they're all in on Israel.
[1:06:02] They're getting checks.
[1:06:03] They know where their bread is buttered.
[1:06:06] We are going against everything we've always gone
[1:06:08] against.
[1:06:08] And we've been right every single time.
[1:06:10] Oh, no, we're always right.
[1:06:12] COVID, Ukraine, everything.
[1:06:14] When Ukraine started, we're like, no.
[1:06:16] People are like, you're horrible.
[1:06:18] Look at my Ukraine flag.
[1:06:19] Oh, we lost a lot of audience because
[1:06:22] of Ukraine.
[1:06:22] Yeah, yeah.
[1:06:23] They're all in on this.
[1:06:24] But you know what?
[1:06:25] We're not, we don't have that quirky face
[1:06:27] like Whitney Webb.
[1:06:28] The little face.
[1:06:29] We don't live in Chile.
[1:06:30] And we can't talk about, you know, how
[1:06:32] it's the Jews.
[1:06:33] And it goes back to, you know, all
[1:06:36] the rich Jews.
[1:06:37] And then Palantir, Palantir and Elon Musk, they're
[1:06:42] all going to control us.
[1:06:46] Your Honor, you did get your gigawatt coffee.
[1:06:51] I did.
[1:06:51] Yes, I did get the gigawatt coffee.
[1:06:54] And we also got some decaf for Tina,
[1:06:55] which I did not drink.
[1:06:58] That's obvious.
[1:07:00] But this is important stuff.
[1:07:02] Because you and I have other things to
[1:07:05] do if people are not going to listen
[1:07:06] to us.
[1:07:08] I don't know what, but we'll find something.
[1:07:10] We'll find something to do.
[1:07:12] I would normally try to stop you from
[1:07:15] this never-ending lament.
[1:07:16] Yeah, but you're not.
[1:07:18] But you're not.
[1:07:18] Well, no, it's because I'm reminded of another
[1:07:21] great evangelist, I don't want to call him
[1:07:26] an evangelist, TV guy, TV religious guy, Gene
[1:07:31] Scott.
[1:07:33] Gene Scott used to come on and complain
[1:07:36] and complain.
[1:07:37] About not getting enough donations.
[1:07:40] Exactly.
[1:07:41] He would stop the show.
[1:07:42] Yeah, I'm stopping this.
[1:07:44] I'm walking away.
[1:07:45] He stopped the show.
[1:07:47] I'm pulling the plug.
[1:07:47] And he'd lower his glasses.
[1:07:50] Sometimes you wear two or three pairs of
[1:07:51] glasses on top of each other.
[1:07:53] These glasses.
[1:07:54] I'm wearing them now.
[1:07:55] I'm wearing them now.
[1:07:56] Look, I'm lifting up one.
[1:07:57] And he'd drop his glasses over his nose
[1:07:59] and he looked down over the glasses and
[1:08:01] he said, is this okay?
[1:08:03] Is this important to you?
[1:08:04] Does this matter?
[1:08:06] You're listening?
[1:08:07] You don't care?
[1:08:08] And he'd go on.
[1:08:09] The whole show would be that.
[1:08:11] I don't want the whole show to be
[1:08:12] that because I got more clips.
[1:08:13] Let's go to clip four.
[1:08:14] And I want to dig into some of
[1:08:15] those deals with the happy family you just
[1:08:17] mentioned, because Trump did strike a deal with
[1:08:20] the Saudis.
[1:08:21] That's about $600 billion.
[1:08:23] And a $244 billion one with Qatar.
[1:08:26] You just mentioned they're very different.
[1:08:27] But how significant are these two deals?
[1:08:29] And how do you see that changing the
[1:08:31] dynamic in that region?
[1:08:32] Maybe pulling away from China, for instance.
[1:08:35] Oh, they're very big.
[1:08:35] They really make America the economic focal point
[1:08:39] of these massive economic powers, these oil powers.
[1:08:43] We haven't even seen yet what's going to
[1:08:45] be unveiled in the UAE in the next
[1:08:47] two days.
[1:08:48] But that will probably add a considerable amount
[1:08:50] to the total of purchases, consumption, and investment
[1:08:57] in the West, and specifically in the United
[1:08:59] States, America first, by these countries.
[1:09:02] I think if you add it all up,
[1:09:04] at the end of the day, we're talking
[1:09:05] close to $2 trillion worth of deals and
[1:09:09] investments and arms sales that will come out
[1:09:12] of this trip.
[1:09:13] That's an awful lot of money to infuse
[1:09:15] in the American economy.
[1:09:17] And it really helps the president with his
[1:09:19] America first agenda, especially to get through the
[1:09:22] immediate period of offsetting the damage done by
[1:09:26] tariffs until the longer term gains of the
[1:09:29] tariffs would kick in, according to what he
[1:09:31] believes.
[1:09:32] Oh, we move quickly to tariffs.
[1:09:34] That's interesting.
[1:09:36] Now, it's interesting to remember something that we,
[1:09:39] because of Biden, for four years as we
[1:09:43] did this show, we forgot about, because before
[1:09:47] Biden, we had other presidents that this show
[1:09:49] has been on forever.
[1:09:51] And we've noticed that one of the things
[1:09:53] all the presidents do is that they're ultimately
[1:09:56] salesmen for the military industrial complex, and they
[1:10:00] go overseas, if you remember.
[1:10:01] Yes.
[1:10:03] All of them would go overseas and do
[1:10:04] deals.
[1:10:05] By the way, that's all, just to remind
[1:10:07] everybody, that's all we really make.
[1:10:09] Have you seen an American car recently?
[1:10:11] What does it look like?
[1:10:12] They're all militaristic looking.
[1:10:13] That's all we know how to make.
[1:10:15] War stuff.
[1:10:15] We make war stuff.
[1:10:18] It's high margin.
[1:10:20] Yes.
[1:10:20] Oh, war stuff is super high margin.
[1:10:23] Yeah.
[1:10:23] So, you know, it's a winner.
[1:10:25] Yeah.
[1:10:26] Our presidents would always go over and do
[1:10:29] these deals.
[1:10:29] Biden never did, because he couldn't sell anything.
[1:10:32] This guy was lost.
[1:10:33] He couldn't sell his way out of a
[1:10:34] paper bag.
[1:10:38] So we go on, and so, but Trump's
[1:10:40] just, yeah, I mean, Trump, as old as
[1:10:41] he is, he's still a killer salesman.
[1:10:45] And that's what we have to remember.
[1:10:47] And this is what benefits the country.
[1:10:49] It benefits the country beyond belief.
[1:10:51] So let's go on, no matter how much
[1:10:53] they hate him.
[1:10:56] By the way, the TikTok clip's coming up
[1:10:58] will prove that.
[1:10:59] So let's go to the final clip.
[1:11:00] Zooming out a bit here during Trump's speech
[1:11:03] in Saudi Arabia, he criticized those he called
[1:11:05] neocons and interventionists, saying they messed up Middle
[1:11:08] East policy.
[1:11:09] What are your thoughts on all of that?
[1:11:11] Yeah, he's really reacting to the Iraq war
[1:11:13] and especially not just knocking Saddam out, which
[1:11:17] had its own strategic issues, but there were
[1:11:19] ways to do it.
[1:11:20] What he's really reacting to is that we
[1:11:21] sat there after the war, occupied Iraq and
[1:11:25] had sort of a, we had a nation
[1:11:27] building presence trying to rebuild Iraq, which became
[1:11:31] kind of an endless bogged down situation.
[1:11:35] The Iranians and Syrians were taking potshots at
[1:11:38] us there, and we lost four or five
[1:11:41] thousand soldiers doing this, which is a horrific
[1:11:44] price.
[1:11:46] And I think that's what he's really reacting
[1:11:47] to.
[1:11:48] Even if you have to do something, do
[1:11:50] it like what you did just now in
[1:11:52] Yemen.
[1:11:52] You go in, you send a signal, you
[1:11:55] destroy the enemy or you make it clear
[1:11:57] to one there's a huge price to pay
[1:11:59] being in conflict with the United States.
[1:12:01] But don't go in, take over the country,
[1:12:04] have a semi-colonial presence to rebuild it
[1:12:06] and take responsibility for the country.
[1:12:09] It's much more important to let them do
[1:12:11] that, let the Iranians do it, let the
[1:12:13] Iraqis do it, let the Yemenis do it.
[1:12:16] It's just something America can't do in that
[1:12:18] region.
[1:12:18] We're not Middle Eastern and we don't play
[1:12:20] that game well.
[1:12:20] And we stop playing that game because we
[1:12:23] can't motivate a single smart young American person
[1:12:27] to go over there and die for this
[1:12:29] nonsense anymore.
[1:12:30] We're not going to do it.
[1:12:32] This is why we have Israel.
[1:12:34] Let them do it.
[1:12:35] This is why we have Saudi Arabia.
[1:12:37] Let them do it and let them pay
[1:12:39] to do it by buying our stuff.
[1:12:42] They have ideological problems.
[1:12:44] That is the region that they live in.
[1:12:47] That's the world they live in.
[1:12:50] Trump's long-winded speech in Saudi Arabia.
[1:12:53] It was very interesting.
[1:12:54] It was kind of interesting.
[1:12:55] It was a very good speech.
[1:12:57] It got no coverage by the mainstream media,
[1:12:59] but it was quite good.
[1:13:00] It was well written.
[1:13:01] It was too long, as usual, because it's
[1:13:04] just the way it is.
[1:13:05] You put up with it.
[1:13:06] By the way, I'm reminded of, I was
[1:13:08] thinking about this because the speech was on
[1:13:10] forever.
[1:13:11] It was a long one.
[1:13:12] And I remember.
[1:13:14] When he puts his arm down, he's leaning
[1:13:16] on his elbow, reading the teleprompter, you know,
[1:13:18] oh, we're in for a long one.
[1:13:19] This is going to be a long speech,
[1:13:21] isn't it?
[1:13:21] And so I'm reminded the first time I
[1:13:24] went to China.
[1:13:26] We went to the mainland.
[1:13:28] I've been to Taiwan and I've been to
[1:13:30] Hong Kong, but I never was in China
[1:13:32] itself.
[1:13:32] And the first time I went there, the
[1:13:35] government came out and gave us, we're a
[1:13:38] bunch of touring journalists or managers.
[1:13:42] We couldn't put the word journalist on the
[1:13:44] passport because they didn't like that.
[1:13:47] So if you go to China, you're always
[1:13:49] a manager.
[1:13:52] So there's these guys that would come out
[1:13:53] and start lecturing us.
[1:13:55] And it was like a Chinese harangue.
[1:13:58] It was going on forever.
[1:13:59] I mean, it was like you wanted to
[1:14:01] shoot yourself.
[1:14:02] It's yak, yak, yak, yak.
[1:14:03] And that's what, for some reason, this is
[1:14:06] Trump style.
[1:14:08] Oh, interesting.
[1:14:09] You can't take it after a while.
[1:14:11] It's like, just end it, man.
[1:14:12] But I'm with you.
[1:14:13] Where do I sign?
[1:14:15] Let me buy that.
[1:14:17] It's part of it.
[1:14:18] Where do I sign?
[1:14:19] You've worn me down, salesman.
[1:14:21] You've worn me down.
[1:14:23] Well, actually, interestingly enough, if we can move
[1:14:27] away from the Middle East for a second,
[1:14:30] the sales continue in the EU.
[1:14:37] And our boy Mark Rutte, Mark, has paid
[1:14:41] off.
[1:14:42] Germany has now come out and said, yep,
[1:14:44] we're going to push it to 5%
[1:14:48] for NATO defense spending.
[1:14:51] That was the ask, continuously, 5%.
[1:14:55] And Germany just said, when does this come
[1:14:57] out, this announcement?
[1:14:59] I think it came out.
[1:15:00] I'm crediting Rutte.
[1:15:02] Well, of course, Rutte did it.
[1:15:04] Here, German Foreign Minister Johann Waderspul said the
[1:15:07] country was backing US President Donald Trump's call
[1:15:10] to increase the defense spending target of NATO
[1:15:12] members to 5%.
[1:15:17] Before Trump, before Trump in 2016, they weren't
[1:15:20] even putting up to 2%.
[1:15:21] Yep.
[1:15:22] Well, now they got the go-ahead from
[1:15:24] Queen Ursula that they can borrow the money.
[1:15:26] So like, okay, we can borrow the money.
[1:15:28] We're good to go.
[1:15:28] Let's do it.
[1:15:30] And just to give him the props, here
[1:15:32] is the obligatory marketer to clip.
[1:15:34] I really want to welcome you to Antalya
[1:15:37] for this important foreign ministers meeting.
[1:15:40] And I want to thank our colleague from
[1:15:43] Turkey.
[1:15:44] Really, Hakan.
[1:15:45] He can't say.
[1:15:47] So in Dutch, it's Turkey.
[1:15:49] But he can't say Turkey for some reason.
[1:15:52] So he says, Turkey.
[1:15:53] Our colleague from Turkey.
[1:15:55] Really, Hakan, thank you so much for making
[1:15:58] this possible and the hospitality.
[1:16:00] It is really amazing.
[1:16:01] Oh, it's amazing hospitality.
[1:16:03] It was just great.
[1:16:04] I had cookies in my room.
[1:16:06] We will have a very important meeting today
[1:16:08] in the run-up to the summit in
[1:16:11] The Hague.
[1:16:11] Oh, The Hague.
[1:16:13] You know what's happening in The Hague.
[1:16:14] The Hague is my home country.
[1:16:16] This is where we're going to have our
[1:16:17] big, big meeting.
[1:16:18] And you know what it's going to be.
[1:16:20] We need to discuss how to make sure
[1:16:22] that NATO will be stronger.
[1:16:24] That means more defence spending.
[1:16:26] That means more defence industrial production.
[1:16:30] But also how to make sure that NATO
[1:16:31] is fairer.
[1:16:32] That we equally distribute the burden amongst allies.
[1:16:37] And that is only fair.
[1:16:38] But also a NATO which is more lethal.
[1:16:41] Not by becoming offences.
[1:16:43] We need to be killing machines.
[1:16:46] By being so strong that nobody will ever
[1:16:50] attack us.
[1:16:50] No.
[1:16:51] Because they know if they would, this defensive
[1:16:54] alliance, if we will be attacked, our reaction
[1:16:56] will be devastating.
[1:16:57] That's going to, it's going to cost a
[1:16:58] lot of money.
[1:16:59] That's what we will discuss today.
[1:17:01] How to make sure that we make a
[1:17:02] success out of the The Hague summit.
[1:17:04] It will be a splash.
[1:17:07] It's a splash.
[1:17:08] Of a NATO which is standing there at
[1:17:11] the world stage.
[1:17:13] Stronger than ever.
[1:17:15] So again, thank you for being here.
[1:17:17] And now it is my honour.
[1:17:18] This is the best.
[1:17:19] This guy is the most effeminate, weak, girly
[1:17:22] man ever.
[1:17:23] And he's just walking around like a peacock.
[1:17:25] Like, we're the rulers of the world.
[1:17:28] NATO will have all, we're going to make
[1:17:30] a splash on you.
[1:17:31] We'll splash you here.
[1:17:32] We'll splash you there.
[1:17:34] Yeah, don't mess with us.
[1:17:36] Just make sure you pay for it.
[1:17:39] It's amazing.
[1:17:40] It's amazing.
[1:17:42] That this guy can actually, that he succeeded.
[1:17:45] He got Germany to the 5%.
[1:17:47] And once Germany goes, how can France stay
[1:17:50] behind?
[1:17:50] No, no, everybody has to go.
[1:17:52] Everybody's got to go.
[1:17:53] And he's fantastic.
[1:17:54] He's great.
[1:17:58] You know, Rutte was there.
[1:17:59] I mean, Rubio was there.
[1:18:01] Rubio was with Mark.
[1:18:03] Hanging out together.
[1:18:04] Because they're all in Istanbul.
[1:18:08] And you want to hear...
[1:18:09] That's right.
[1:18:09] Yes, for the...
[1:18:10] Yeah.
[1:18:10] And so I have a little bit of
[1:18:12] Marko.
[1:18:12] Who, by the way, is not to be
[1:18:14] trusted.
[1:18:15] He's a snake.
[1:18:15] He's no good.
[1:18:16] Careful with this guy.
[1:18:17] Thank you.
[1:18:18] And I think today's meeting sets up what
[1:18:19] I hope will be, I believe will be
[1:18:21] a very successful leaders level meeting coming up
[1:18:23] very shortly.
[1:18:25] NATO has the opportunity to grow even stronger
[1:18:28] in the alliance.
[1:18:29] You know, the alliance is only as strong
[1:18:30] as its weakest link.
[1:18:31] And we intend and endeavour to have no
[1:18:33] weak links in this alliance.
[1:18:34] That's interesting.
[1:18:35] The alliance is only as strong as its
[1:18:37] weakest link.
[1:18:38] So if someone doesn't pay up, the 5
[1:18:39] % were weak for some reason.
[1:18:41] This is an interesting analogy.
[1:18:43] So it's setting up nicely.
[1:18:44] And it's good to see, you know, the
[1:18:45] president has just submitted a budget for a
[1:18:48] trillion dollars of defense spending, which is unheard
[1:18:50] of.
[1:18:50] It's unparalleled.
[1:18:51] And it's not just spending money.
[1:18:52] It's spending money on the capabilities that are
[1:18:54] needed for the threats of the 21st century.
[1:18:56] It's not just spending money.
[1:18:58] It's spending money for important things.
[1:19:01] We need the Golden Dome.
[1:19:04] All kinds of different threats that look different
[1:19:06] from the threats in the past.
[1:19:08] And so I think today sets up that
[1:19:10] leaders meeting, which will be very productive.
[1:19:12] I also think, obviously, that the big issue
[1:19:15] on everyone's mind is what's happening with Russia
[1:19:17] and Ukraine.
[1:19:17] The president of the United States has been
[1:19:19] abundantly clear.
[1:19:19] He wants the war to end.
[1:19:21] He's open to virtually any mechanism that gets
[1:19:23] us to a just, enduring and lasting peace.
[1:19:27] And that's what he wants to see.
[1:19:28] He wants to see an end to wars.
[1:19:30] He wants to keep wars from happening.
[1:19:31] The purpose of NATO is to prevent wars
[1:19:33] through its strength.
[1:19:35] And that's why, you know, we want to
[1:19:36] see it grow stronger.
[1:19:40] The purpose...
[1:19:41] Let me just hear that again.
[1:19:42] I just want...
[1:19:42] That should be on his tombstone.
[1:19:44] The purpose of NATO is to stop wars.
[1:19:47] And that's what he wants to see.
[1:19:49] He wants to see an end to wars.
[1:19:50] He wants to keep wars from happening.
[1:19:51] The purpose of NATO is to prevent wars.
[1:19:53] Okay.
[1:19:54] Okay.
[1:19:54] Can we just write that down?
[1:19:56] The purpose of NATO is to prevent wars
[1:19:58] in places like, I don't know, Ukraine.
[1:20:02] All the states that we expanded eastward.
[1:20:05] Libya.
[1:20:06] Libya.
[1:20:07] Prevent wars.
[1:20:08] Prevent destruction.
[1:20:09] Prevent it through its strength.
[1:20:10] And that's why, you know, we want to
[1:20:12] see it grow stronger.
[1:20:14] Spending levels among all partners that allow everyone
[1:20:16] to be stronger.
[1:20:17] It makes the alliance stronger.
[1:20:18] And also he wants to end wars.
[1:20:20] And that's the hope with Russia and Ukraine.
[1:20:22] We'll see what happens over the next couple
[1:20:23] of days in that regard.
[1:20:25] But we want to see progress made in
[1:20:27] that regard.
[1:20:27] And whatever mechanism is outlined.
[1:20:31] Whatever the process is that needs to happen.
[1:20:33] I mean, we are open to being constructive
[1:20:35] and helpful in any way we can to
[1:20:36] end a conflict.
[1:20:38] No, and end the conflicts by spending more
[1:20:40] money on our stuff.
[1:20:41] It's genius.
[1:20:42] It's just genius.
[1:20:44] There will be wars and rumors of wars.
[1:20:46] It all has to happen.
[1:20:47] It's never going to stop.
[1:20:48] That is just the world the way it
[1:20:49] is.
[1:20:50] There is something much more important playing out
[1:20:52] this Saturday.
[1:20:53] Saturday is a big day when it comes
[1:20:55] to competing countries.
[1:20:56] Are you aware of this?
[1:21:01] Saturday.
[1:21:02] Saturday.
[1:21:02] Saturday is a big thing taking place in
[1:21:04] Switzerland of all places.
[1:21:07] This is a big meeting of the creative
[1:21:10] minds.
[1:21:11] It's that time of year again.
[1:21:15] World Economic Forum.
[1:21:17] Close.
[1:21:17] To Switzerland, where the first of two Eurovision
[1:21:20] Song Contest semifinals have taken place in the
[1:21:23] city of Basel.
[1:21:25] Fifteen countries performed on Tuesday night, including Sweden.
[1:21:29] This just took place a couple of months
[1:21:30] ago.
[1:21:31] No, it's once a year.
[1:21:32] That's how fast the time is going.
[1:21:34] And for you, it's even worse.
[1:21:36] See, I thought it was like maybe half
[1:21:37] a year ago.
[1:21:38] You're like, this was last week.
[1:21:39] That's what happens when you get older.
[1:21:41] Time is accelerating.
[1:21:43] Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Norway and Croatia.
[1:21:47] Among the favorites was Sweden, with a catchy
[1:21:49] tribute to sauna culture.
[1:21:51] Ah, Sweden with a catchy tribute to sauna
[1:21:55] culture.
[1:21:55] And Dutch singer Claude, with his emotional ballad,
[1:21:59] C'est la vie.
[1:22:00] Ah, the Dutch are in the running.
[1:22:02] In total, 37 countries will compete for a
[1:22:05] place in Saturday's grand final.
[1:22:07] I heard more about the first semifinal from
[1:22:10] our correspondent, Charlotte Gallagher, who's in Basel.
[1:22:14] She began by telling us how the Swedish
[1:22:16] band got on.
[1:22:18] Well, they did really well.
[1:22:19] They are a huge favorite here in Basel.
[1:22:22] They're also currently the bookies' favorite as well,
[1:22:25] which is no surprise, really, because if there's
[1:22:28] one thing that Sweden does really well, it's
[1:22:31] writing a Eurovision banger.
[1:22:33] They have won it.
[1:22:34] A Eurovision banger.
[1:22:35] A Eurovision banger.
[1:22:37] John, have you got a new Eurovision banger?
[1:22:39] How is this even news?
[1:22:41] It's lightheartedness because they, of course, will make
[1:22:44] it political.
[1:22:44] Really well.
[1:22:45] It's writing a Eurovision banger.
[1:22:47] They have won it so many times.
[1:22:50] We were in Malmo last year because they
[1:22:51] won it the year before.
[1:22:53] Switzerland obviously won it last year, so that's
[1:22:55] why we're in Basel.
[1:22:56] But it could well be going back to
[1:22:58] Sweden next year.
[1:23:00] It's a hugely popular song.
[1:23:01] It's got a great staging.
[1:23:03] They're sat in a sauna, so it really
[1:23:04] catches the eye.
[1:23:06] It's really funny.
[1:23:06] I met a lady from Stockholm earlier, Karen.
[1:23:09] She was really excited, and I said, but
[1:23:10] what will it mean for the song, you
[1:23:12] know, Eurovision, to come to Sweden again?
[1:23:14] She went, it'll probably mean higher taxes for
[1:23:16] us, but I'm still excited.
[1:23:18] This is a big deal.
[1:23:19] We do have a lot of people listening
[1:23:20] in Europe, and all Europeans, believe me, the
[1:23:23] streets are quiet on Saturday night.
[1:23:25] Everybody is checking it out, and I need
[1:23:28] your insight and your expertise as a musical,
[1:23:36] what is it?
[1:23:37] Listener.
[1:23:39] Aficionado is what I was going to say.
[1:23:41] That's a good word.
[1:23:42] These are the top three contenders.
[1:23:43] I have about 30 seconds of each, and
[1:23:46] I would like to get your opinion as
[1:23:48] we start off with three entrants.
[1:23:50] Ukraine, of course.
[1:23:52] We still need to have the political angle.
[1:23:54] Ukraine could pull in the top prize because,
[1:24:00] hey, Ukraine, right?
[1:24:02] We have Sweden because they are clearly the
[1:24:05] favorites with their sauna culture, and we have
[1:24:07] the Netherlands with Claude.
[1:24:10] So I give you Zifferblatt, bird of prey
[1:24:13] from Ukraine.
[1:24:14] This person, I don't know if it's a
[1:24:16] dude.
[1:24:16] I don't know if it's a woman.
[1:24:18] The person looks just like Zelensky.
[1:24:36] What do you think?
[1:24:38] Journey from the 70s.
[1:24:39] Yes, journey.
[1:24:41] Yes, nailed it.
[1:24:49] All right.
[1:24:50] So you say that's a journey from the
[1:24:52] 70s, not bad.
[1:24:53] I think the Netherlands has an interesting entrant.
[1:24:56] Claude with C'est La Vie.
[1:24:59] The song is apparently in French spoken so
[1:25:02] often in the Netherlands.
[1:25:04] But C'est La Vie is a good
[1:25:07] title because everyone knows the term C'est
[1:25:10] La Vie.
[1:25:27] And you complain about our end of show
[1:25:29] mixes.
[1:25:33] All right.
[1:25:34] So that's C'est La Vie.
[1:25:35] Cliché on that one.
[1:25:36] What a dog.
[1:25:37] But I think Sweden will win because they
[1:25:41] have...
[1:25:42] It's a banger.
[1:25:43] It's a banger.
[1:25:43] It is...
[1:25:44] Believe me, Europe, particularly the Germanic side and
[1:25:47] the Viking side, they still want drinking songs.
[1:25:52] They still want to go...
[1:25:56] That's what they want.
[1:25:58] And I think...
[1:25:58] Yeah, so they can hold the beer stein.
[1:25:59] Yes, and I think Sweden has it locked
[1:26:01] up.
[1:26:27] See, that's the hook.
[1:26:29] This is an anthem style.
[1:26:31] Yes, exactly.
[1:26:33] Which should catch...
[1:26:35] Could win the award.
[1:26:36] You might be right.
[1:26:37] It goes...
[1:26:38] But it still sucks.
[1:26:39] It's bad.
[1:26:40] It's mediocre.
[1:26:41] Who let the dogs out?
[1:26:42] Why don't you just do that?
[1:26:43] But here's the hook.
[1:26:46] Sauna.
[1:26:50] Sauna.
[1:26:51] See, the whole world will be singing this
[1:26:53] song.
[1:26:53] Holy, holy, holy sauna.
[1:26:57] Sauna.
[1:26:58] Sauna.
[1:26:58] Yes.
[1:26:59] Yes, they win.
[1:27:01] Okay, just to wrap this up.
[1:27:02] It's just code for get naked.
[1:27:04] Yeah, here's...
[1:27:06] And here is the political angle.
[1:27:07] And what's the atmosphere been like there in
[1:27:09] Basel?
[1:27:10] Well, no one likes the Jews.
[1:27:11] It's very different, I'd say, from Malmo last
[1:27:15] year.
[1:27:15] It does seem a bit more relaxed.
[1:27:17] Malmo was quite tense at times because of
[1:27:21] the conflict in Gaza and Israel.
[1:27:23] And you felt that as soon as you
[1:27:24] got into the city.
[1:27:25] We haven't seen that yet in Basel.
[1:27:28] There is a protest, though, tomorrow against Israel's
[1:27:30] inclusion in Eurovision.
[1:27:32] And also when Israel perform in the second
[1:27:34] semifinal on Thursday.
[1:27:36] The contestant says she expects to be booed,
[1:27:39] essentially.
[1:27:39] And people will be allowed to bring Palestinian
[1:27:41] flags into the arena.
[1:27:42] They weren't necessarily allowed to do that in
[1:27:44] Sweden last year.
[1:27:45] People had those flags taken off them.
[1:27:46] This year, they will be allowed to bring
[1:27:48] them in.
[1:27:48] So I think we'll probably see the mood
[1:27:50] towards Israel and the Israeli contestant here in
[1:27:54] Eurovision on Thursday.
[1:27:56] But at the moment in town, in the
[1:27:58] city centre, people seem pretty happy that Eurovision's
[1:28:00] here.
[1:28:01] There's lots of turquoise flags.
[1:28:03] Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
[1:28:03] The only reason they should be against Israel
[1:28:06] is because they're not...
[1:28:08] Why are they part of Eurovision?
[1:28:10] There's nowhere near Euro.
[1:28:12] This is the problem I've had.
[1:28:14] Won't they have a Nigerian candidate?
[1:28:17] They could, if you're a member of Eurovision.
[1:28:20] That's the only reason to pro...
[1:28:21] But oh, no.
[1:28:22] Oh, I've got a protest.
[1:28:23] Oh, whoa.
[1:28:24] Whoa, Israel can't sing songs.
[1:28:27] It's a problem.
[1:28:31] It's rampant.
[1:28:33] And we are...
[1:28:33] What's next?
[1:28:34] What's next?
[1:28:35] We're fighting upstream, John.
[1:28:37] We're upstream.
[1:28:44] All right, time to get real.
[1:28:46] Hey, young people.
[1:28:47] We're hip.
[1:28:48] We're with the in crowd.
[1:28:49] We can do TikTok TikTok clops.
[1:28:53] Well, I got a bunch of them.
[1:28:54] I got actually five TikTok clips that are
[1:28:58] all various...
[1:28:59] They're various styles.
[1:29:00] Oh, let's start with this one.
[1:29:02] Here's a black woman complaining...
[1:29:03] Or not complaining.
[1:29:04] She's trying to educate us about gingers.
[1:29:07] Gingers are no good.
[1:29:08] They have no soul.
[1:29:09] I just need to remind y'all again,
[1:29:11] everyone who is ginger, who has red hair,
[1:29:14] those are black people.
[1:29:15] All gingers are black people.
[1:29:18] If they have red hair, they are black.
[1:29:20] You see a white man with red hair.
[1:29:22] That's a black man.
[1:29:23] You see a white woman with red hair.
[1:29:25] That's a black woman.
[1:29:27] Gingers are black.
[1:29:30] All gingers.
[1:29:31] Wow.
[1:29:33] Wow.
[1:29:33] Okay.
[1:29:34] Well, that's...
[1:29:35] I can write that one down.
[1:29:36] That's a T-shirt, by the way.
[1:29:38] Gingers are black.
[1:29:40] All right.
[1:29:42] I'm loving this insight from TikTok.
[1:29:46] Well, that was a different woman than the
[1:29:49] one that keeps going on about how all
[1:29:51] white people are cannibals.
[1:29:52] Remember that one?
[1:29:53] It's true.
[1:29:55] It's true.
[1:29:56] Everyone knows it.
[1:29:57] It's on TikTok.
[1:29:57] Now, of course, we have the wimpy guy.
[1:30:01] Like, just really a wimpy guy threatening everybody
[1:30:05] because you're MAGA.
[1:30:06] Me, MAGA.
[1:30:07] Peter Thiel.
[1:30:08] Trump.
[1:30:09] JD Banz.
[1:30:10] Elon Musk.
[1:30:12] Fear us.
[1:30:13] We are the masses.
[1:30:15] You are the 1%.
[1:30:17] We are the 99%.
[1:30:19] Think about it.
[1:30:21] Think about it, keyboard warrior.
[1:30:25] You know...
[1:30:26] Think about it.
[1:30:26] It's sad because he's clearly angry.
[1:30:30] You know, this is the...
[1:30:31] He has no other means to show his
[1:30:34] anger other than speaking into the deep void
[1:30:37] on TikTok to people like you.
[1:30:39] So it's...
[1:30:40] I feel for these people.
[1:30:42] I feel bad for this guy.
[1:30:43] I'm in the minority.
[1:30:44] I'm inside the majority.
[1:30:46] You're in the minority on this.
[1:30:47] What do you mean?
[1:30:48] Oh, no, I feel bad for all these
[1:30:49] people.
[1:30:50] I hope all these people, you know, that
[1:30:54] they calm down and they stop out of
[1:30:56] this.
[1:30:57] Eventually it will.
[1:30:58] One day it will.
[1:31:00] So let's go to Department of Education nut.
[1:31:03] Good morning.
[1:31:03] It's Monday.
[1:31:05] I have a question for those that have
[1:31:07] voted for this administration.
[1:31:09] Did you vote for the Department of Education
[1:31:12] be taken out?
[1:31:14] Yeah, let me check.
[1:31:15] Yeah.
[1:31:15] Yeah, I did.
[1:31:16] Yes.
[1:31:17] Dismantled.
[1:31:18] Did you vote for that?
[1:31:19] Yep.
[1:31:19] Yeah.
[1:31:20] I'm just curious.
[1:31:20] I'm sure you wanted them to change things,
[1:31:23] but dismantling a department that helps your children.
[1:31:26] You mean the department that puts those books
[1:31:29] into my children's schools?
[1:31:30] No, I'm pretty sure that I voted against
[1:31:32] that.
[1:31:33] And helps a lot of people.
[1:31:35] Putting it with the states is not the
[1:31:37] answer, especially if the states don't have income
[1:31:39] taxes and if they're going to start taking
[1:31:41] those away too.
[1:31:42] Hold on a second.
[1:31:44] We have a state that doesn't have income
[1:31:46] taxes.
[1:31:47] We have some of the most beautiful roads,
[1:31:50] some of the best infrastructure.
[1:31:53] We get taxed in other ways, for sure.
[1:31:56] But I think you're wrong on this, TikTok
[1:31:59] gal.
[1:32:00] Our children will hurt for this.
[1:32:03] They want to take away abortion.
[1:32:07] This is a great phrase.
[1:32:10] They want to take away abortion.
[1:32:13] Our children will hurt for this.
[1:32:15] They want to take away abortion.
[1:32:17] Well, if you don't take away abortion, that's
[1:32:19] when the children will really hurt for this.
[1:32:20] You know, they get aborted.
[1:32:23] If you have a baby, you got to
[1:32:25] take care of it.
[1:32:25] They don't help you there.
[1:32:26] Then you take away education support.
[1:32:30] I just, I'm curious.
[1:32:31] What's your mastermind thought plan?
[1:32:33] And I wonder if it's good as is,
[1:32:35] then whatever.
[1:32:36] Have a great day.
[1:32:38] But this is just people who are grossly
[1:32:40] misinformed.
[1:32:41] That's all.
[1:32:42] She doesn't even understand how a taxless, income
[1:32:45] taxless state like Texas works or Nevada or
[1:32:50] others just doesn't seem to understand it.
[1:32:53] And she, I don't know if she has
[1:32:54] children.
[1:32:55] If she had children.
[1:32:56] What do you think?
[1:32:58] Probably not.
[1:32:59] Probably not.
[1:33:00] So she's just under-informed and a little
[1:33:02] over-socialized.
[1:33:04] She, you know, again.
[1:33:05] You can make excuses all you want for
[1:33:07] these people.
[1:33:08] I'm not making excuses.
[1:33:09] I have compassion for them because I feel
[1:33:11] bad.
[1:33:11] Yeah, I don't.
[1:33:11] I know you don't.
[1:33:12] Well, it's okay.
[1:33:13] You don't need to shut me down just
[1:33:14] because I have compassion.
[1:33:16] No, this is the toxic empathy is what
[1:33:20] you have.
[1:33:20] Oh no.
[1:33:21] Oh no, there's no empathy.
[1:33:23] Empathy is something completely different.
[1:33:25] There's no empathy here.
[1:33:26] No, sir.
[1:33:27] It is compassion, not empathy.
[1:33:29] Toxic compassion is what you have.
[1:33:32] Toxic compassion.
[1:33:34] Oh, here we go.
[1:33:34] The only one who's toxic is you.
[1:33:37] Which one?
[1:33:37] Here we go.
[1:33:38] Here we go with the idiot leaving the
[1:33:40] United States.
[1:33:41] Okay, so since Trump won the election, we're
[1:33:44] cooked.
[1:33:45] Yup.
[1:33:46] I'm going to be leaving the US and
[1:33:48] I'm going to be moving to Hawaii.
[1:33:51] So we'll see how it goes.
[1:33:53] And I'll update you guys.
[1:33:56] Again, someone who has not been educated and
[1:33:59] completely over-socialized, who does not understand the
[1:34:02] United States includes Hawaii.
[1:34:04] That is a kicker.
[1:34:06] You should have held that one for last
[1:34:07] unless this is the best of the bunch.
[1:34:09] No, they're all good.
[1:34:10] This one, this is not.
[1:34:12] That may have been the best, but we'll
[1:34:14] try this one.
[1:34:14] It was pretty good.
[1:34:15] I just saw this video.
[1:34:17] I mean, I've been seeing a lot of
[1:34:19] videos.
[1:34:20] You need to set this up.
[1:34:21] I don't know what's happening.
[1:34:22] What's going on with this?
[1:34:23] Okay, here's a woman crying and she's letting
[1:34:25] it be known that this is the way
[1:34:27] everyone must be feeling because she is.
[1:34:30] You know, if you're feeling a certain way
[1:34:32] because of Trump, obviously everybody's feeling that way.
[1:34:36] And so she's eliciting kind of like she's
[1:34:40] hoping, I guess, but yeah, yeah, yeah, we
[1:34:42] should overthrow the government.
[1:34:43] I'm not sure what the goal of this
[1:34:45] is.
[1:34:46] Overthrow the government.
[1:34:47] Okay, yeah, I'm all for it.
[1:34:49] Let's do it.
[1:34:50] Let's do it.
[1:34:50] I just saw this video.
[1:34:53] I mean, I've been seeing a lot of
[1:34:54] videos.
[1:34:56] Anyone else having a hard time not just
[1:35:00] breaking down crying several times a day because
[1:35:03] you're just watching the horror happen.
[1:35:07] The horror of so many people around you
[1:35:09] that either have no idea, don't care or
[1:35:13] pretending it's not.
[1:35:14] And like you're crazy and you're just a
[1:35:16] conspiracy theorist and you're just insane and you
[1:35:18] just are too dramatic and you just need
[1:35:19] to calm down and you just need to
[1:35:20] shut the fuck up.
[1:35:21] But you want to help and there's nothing
[1:35:23] you can do because you don't have money.
[1:35:25] You don't have billions of dollars.
[1:35:27] You don't have, I don't have any dollars
[1:35:29] that I can spare.
[1:35:30] Frankly, like truly.
[1:35:32] But that's the only thing that seems to
[1:35:34] kind of make a difference.
[1:35:35] And you can't even do that.
[1:35:37] You can't even do that.
[1:35:38] You can only speak.
[1:35:39] And now we can't even speak.
[1:35:41] So watch and cry.
[1:35:43] It is, I guess.
[1:35:46] You know, the worse it gets, it's not
[1:35:48] like the quieter I want to get.
[1:35:50] It's the angrier I get, the louder I
[1:35:52] want to be.
[1:35:54] I've just been screaming for so long that
[1:35:56] I'm not sure I, who I'm even talking
[1:36:00] to anymore.
[1:36:01] Who's left?
[1:36:03] It's still, what else do you need to
[1:36:05] see?
[1:36:05] Oh no, there's lots of you left.
[1:36:07] There's, there's a lot.
[1:36:08] So I think the reason I have compassion
[1:36:11] for these people, we have a family member
[1:36:12] who does this on TikTok.
[1:36:15] Exactly this.
[1:36:17] And it's, it is, I can tell because
[1:36:20] I know this family member that it is,
[1:36:23] it's an outlet and the feedback is important.
[1:36:27] Yeah, you're right on.
[1:36:28] You're spot on.
[1:36:29] Yes, I'm with you.
[1:36:30] I'm also crying.
[1:36:31] I'm also worried.
[1:36:32] I'm also scared.
[1:36:33] These people are scared because these dark media
[1:36:38] forces have scared them to no end about
[1:36:41] stuff.
[1:36:42] They can't, she did in a minute and
[1:36:44] 15, she didn't even say what she's scared
[1:36:46] of.
[1:36:47] It's just scared.
[1:36:49] She's scared of people.
[1:36:51] She's scared, scared.
[1:36:54] So this is just, it's just a, that's
[1:36:57] real.
[1:36:57] That's probably the realest clip that you played
[1:36:59] of the bunch.
[1:37:00] This really happens.
[1:37:02] And people need this feedback because no one
[1:37:05] else in their right mind can have a
[1:37:06] conversation with them.
[1:37:08] So that's for sure.
[1:37:10] Yeah, so, and so the algos put those
[1:37:12] people together and they see more people saying
[1:37:14] this and they believe that the whole world
[1:37:16] is like them.
[1:37:16] That is the, the true genius of TikTok
[1:37:19] is that whatever you're into, you're going to
[1:37:22] get a lot of it all the time.
[1:37:23] It's not just going to switch all of
[1:37:25] a sudden midstream.
[1:37:27] And so in that regard, she needs to
[1:37:30] get off the internet.
[1:37:31] She needs to get off her TikTok for
[1:37:33] sure.
[1:37:35] None of those kids really had phones by
[1:37:36] the way at the high school.
[1:37:38] Three, three had a smartphone.
[1:37:41] Well, that was, that's new information that needed
[1:37:44] to be discussed.
[1:37:45] Oh yeah.
[1:37:46] In fact, the most common phrase heard from
[1:37:50] their parents.
[1:37:52] So they have phones.
[1:37:53] They have like flip phones and other phones,
[1:37:55] but nothing.
[1:37:57] Now they have computers at home and so
[1:38:00] they can go on YouTube.
[1:38:01] Okay.
[1:38:03] The most common phrase heard is you can
[1:38:05] have a smartphone as a wedding present.
[1:38:09] And that's the attitude of the parents here
[1:38:11] in Fredericksburg which I think is a good
[1:38:13] thing.
[1:38:14] And they all wear uniforms.
[1:38:16] It was nice.
[1:38:17] Oh, you went to a school where there
[1:38:18] were uniforms.
[1:38:19] Almost all the schools here have uniforms.
[1:38:23] I think even the public school may have
[1:38:25] a uniform.
[1:38:26] I think.
[1:38:27] Yeah, I'm for that.
[1:38:28] I always liked that when we were in
[1:38:29] England and Christina went to school, uniform.
[1:38:32] You know, it takes away a lot of
[1:38:33] issues.
[1:38:35] You know, you don't have the cooler kicks
[1:38:37] on or whatever.
[1:38:39] Everyone's got the same duds.
[1:38:41] No, I'm for that.
[1:38:41] You against that?
[1:38:42] You don't like uniforms at school?
[1:38:44] Well, I've never gone to a school that
[1:38:48] had uniforms.
[1:38:51] Ever.
[1:38:52] And I don't know anybody who did except
[1:38:54] you.
[1:38:57] So I can't say one way or the
[1:38:59] other.
[1:38:59] I think that theoretically, in some situations, it
[1:39:03] would be a good idea.
[1:39:05] But then again, it's kind of militaristic.
[1:39:08] No, it's not.
[1:39:09] Yeah, it's totally militaristic.
[1:39:10] Hmm.
[1:39:12] So no agenda millennial in the troll room
[1:39:14] says, kids don't have phones, but they have
[1:39:16] Adam Curry speak.
[1:39:17] What the F kind of school is that?
[1:39:21] This is what's happening, John.
[1:39:22] We're alienating everybody.
[1:39:24] Even the no agenda millennials.
[1:39:27] What?
[1:39:28] I don't think we've alienated any no agenda
[1:39:31] millennials.
[1:39:32] Well, the no agenda millennial literally just said
[1:39:34] that.
[1:39:35] Yeah, but that's it still is.
[1:39:37] Did he quit?
[1:39:38] I quit.
[1:39:39] I'm off.
[1:39:39] I'm quitting the chat room.
[1:39:41] Never hear from me again.
[1:39:42] No, it would never do that.
[1:39:44] Because, you know, that's that's where they get
[1:39:46] their feedback.
[1:39:47] That's they need that.
[1:39:48] They need the troll room.
[1:39:49] They need it as part of their DNA.
[1:39:52] So here's a tick tock crowd for the
[1:39:54] elites.
[1:39:56] Different venue to complain about America and Donald
[1:39:59] Trump.
[1:40:00] And guess where that is?
[1:40:01] Con, baby, in France.
[1:40:04] The 78th Cannes Film Festival opened on Tuesday,
[1:40:07] bringing together the world's most famous cinema personalities
[1:40:10] to celebrate another year of storytelling.
[1:40:12] Day one featured a star studded lineup from
[1:40:15] world renowned filmmaker Quentin Tarantino to supermodel Bella
[1:40:18] Hadid.
[1:40:19] American actors Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro,
[1:40:22] who've worked alongside each other on three occasions,
[1:40:25] stole the show on the opening day.
[1:40:27] DiCaprio, who skipped the red carpet, awarded veteran
[1:40:30] 81 year old De Niro with an honorary
[1:40:32] Palme d'Or.
[1:40:34] But every once in a while, even the
[1:40:36] most private of giants deserves their moment.
[1:40:40] A moment to be acknowledged, not just for
[1:40:42] their work, but for the quiet, lasting influence
[1:40:46] they've had on so many lives.
[1:40:47] We are so important, everybody.
[1:40:50] We, we, we are important to you.
[1:40:55] On my life.
[1:40:56] So without trying to speak for the entire
[1:40:59] world of cinema here tonight, but probably doing
[1:41:01] it anyway, there is no one more deserving
[1:41:04] of this Palme d'Or lifetime achievement award.
[1:41:07] Who is no more deserving for this Palme
[1:41:10] d'Or lifetime achievement award?
[1:41:13] Who is no more deserving?
[1:41:17] None of them.
[1:41:18] Can you give me a name?
[1:41:19] Well, De Niro got it, didn't he?
[1:41:21] Mr. Robert De Niro.
[1:41:24] De Niro, an outspoken critic of Donald Trump,
[1:41:27] quickly shifted the moment to politics as he
[1:41:29] slammed the US president for his administration's attacks
[1:41:32] on arts and culture.
[1:41:35] America's Philistine president has had himself appointed head
[1:41:39] of one of our premier cultural institutions.
[1:41:42] He has cut funding and support to the
[1:41:45] arts, humanities, and education.
[1:41:47] And now he has announced a 100%
[1:41:50] tariff on films produced outside the US.
[1:41:54] Let that sink in for a minute.
[1:41:56] Stop the clip for a second.
[1:41:58] Couple of things to note.
[1:41:59] Philistine was funny.
[1:42:03] Couple of things to note.
[1:42:04] Why is the government supporting the arts?
[1:42:07] It's the government.
[1:42:09] You don't want the government involved, it seems
[1:42:11] to me, because they're going to try to
[1:42:13] influence one way or the other.
[1:42:14] So you don't want that.
[1:42:15] I would say you are correct.
[1:42:17] The second thing is the reason about taxing
[1:42:20] the foreign films was as, which was not
[1:42:24] fully understood by me when I first heard
[1:42:26] about it, is to keep the business in
[1:42:29] the United States and help locals make money,
[1:42:32] the people in Los Angeles, the Angelenos, and
[1:42:35] the people in New York.
[1:42:36] He's got a studio that he built in
[1:42:38] New York City with his buddy.
[1:42:40] They built a giant soundstage, De Niro did,
[1:42:45] and the idea is to keep the business
[1:42:47] there and to keep the business in Hollywood.
[1:42:50] So what's wrong with that exactly?
[1:42:53] What's wrong is what's wrong between the ears
[1:42:56] of Mr. De Niro, who I guess he
[1:43:00] gets accolades for doing this, and he has
[1:43:02] taken every opportunity at every award show for
[1:43:05] the past eight years, maybe longer, to do
[1:43:10] this at award shows.
[1:43:11] Like, I'm going to show him, hold my
[1:43:14] beer.
[1:43:15] If you're the award show guys, I'd have
[1:43:19] to say I'd probably do it.
[1:43:21] Your worst show guy said, well, you know,
[1:43:23] our awards aren't getting any attention.
[1:43:25] What are we going to do?
[1:43:27] No one ever pays attention to the con
[1:43:29] Palme d'Or.
[1:43:31] Well, no one's ever been televised, and I
[1:43:34] know of the Palme d'Or, especially the
[1:43:36] Lifetime Achievement Award, which who knows who got
[1:43:38] it.
[1:43:38] You name one person who's gotten it before,
[1:43:40] I can't think of one.
[1:43:41] But your original point is spot on.
[1:43:44] You don't want, you don't actually want the
[1:43:46] government involved in the arts for the obvious
[1:43:50] reasons.
[1:43:51] But here they are complaining because said the
[1:43:56] millionaire De Niro, well, I'm not making enough
[1:43:59] money now, I guess.
[1:44:00] What else is he saying?
[1:44:01] Because he's saying that they're cutting the money
[1:44:03] off.
[1:44:03] That's no good.
[1:44:04] Or is he saying, because I hear a
[1:44:06] lot of this too, like, so here I
[1:44:08] am rich, rich director, producer, movie star.
[1:44:13] I presume he's rich.
[1:44:14] I have no idea.
[1:44:15] But no, he's got plenty.
[1:44:16] He's got plenty of money.
[1:44:17] You would think he does.
[1:44:17] What he's kind of saying is all those
[1:44:20] little unsuccessful people get no chance like me.
[1:44:24] That's what I mean.
[1:44:25] It's very an elitist position to take.
[1:44:27] It's like, well, all the things that are
[1:44:30] not sponsored, you know, it's almost like the
[1:44:32] music business.
[1:44:34] You know, it's like, ah, the little people,
[1:44:36] they have no chance.
[1:44:37] They can't get on the radio.
[1:44:38] They can't get on Spotify.
[1:44:41] It's an elitist position.
[1:44:44] He happens to be a very good actor.
[1:44:46] And I think a decent director.
[1:44:48] He's produced a lot of things, which means
[1:44:50] he put his money into it.
[1:44:51] I don't know if he's directed anything.
[1:44:52] I think he's directed some things.
[1:44:54] But even that series I watched on, I
[1:44:57] think Netflix was, you know, about him being
[1:44:58] president was good.
[1:44:59] And I watched it because I wanted to
[1:45:01] rid myself of bias.
[1:45:02] And I'm very, I'm very able to separate
[1:45:05] the arts and his art from him, the
[1:45:09] person.
[1:45:10] But remember, this is the guy who literally
[1:45:12] was saying what Robert Kennedy Jr. saying now
[1:45:16] about the MMR vaccine and has a child
[1:45:19] with it and all this stuff.
[1:45:20] It's just dark forces.
[1:45:23] Hollywood must be controlled by Satan.
[1:45:26] And support to the arts, humanities and education.
[1:45:29] And now he has announced a 100%
[1:45:32] tariff on films produced outside the U.S.
[1:45:36] Let that sink in for a minute.
[1:45:38] OK, I'm letting it sink in because he's
[1:45:41] outside the U.S. He's trying to curry
[1:45:43] favor to term to coin a term with
[1:45:48] the foreign audience.
[1:45:50] Fully well knowing that if you want to
[1:45:52] be successful in the film business, you need
[1:45:54] the American audience.
[1:45:56] You can't put a price on creativity, but
[1:45:59] apparently you can put it.
[1:46:01] Well, why don't you work for 10 bucks
[1:46:03] or scale?
[1:46:04] Then it's creativity.
[1:46:05] You can't put a price on it as
[1:46:06] long as it's 10 million dollars a film.
[1:46:07] You can't put a price on creativity, but
[1:46:11] apparently you can put a tariff on it.
[1:46:14] Of course, this is unacceptable.
[1:46:18] All these attacks are unacceptable.
[1:46:21] The opening ceremony concluded.
[1:46:24] Yeah, unacceptable.
[1:46:25] Poor Robert.
[1:46:30] He made a he made a bad deal.
[1:46:32] That's what happened.
[1:46:32] He made a bad, bad deal and he
[1:46:35] can't get out of it.
[1:46:36] He has to stay stuck in that.
[1:46:40] So Jake Tapper is out with his book.
[1:46:43] He's shopping it around.
[1:46:44] Have you had a chance to read his
[1:46:45] book?
[1:46:46] No, I have not.
[1:46:47] Have you?
[1:46:48] Of course not.
[1:46:49] But it's about.
[1:46:51] Of course not.
[1:46:52] They did not send me an advanced copy.
[1:46:54] So how could I read it?
[1:46:56] They didn't ask me to do a blurb.
[1:46:58] So what can I say?
[1:46:59] Otherwise, I would have been like best analysis
[1:47:02] of the Biden presidency ever.
[1:47:05] So here he is.
[1:47:06] Well, I don't have the clips.
[1:47:07] At least as a good.
[1:47:10] But I will say this, that Fox in
[1:47:13] particular are spiking the ball because they were
[1:47:16] under Biden being seen a little fart forever.
[1:47:20] And so they have.
[1:47:21] So they've found every clip from Tapper's past
[1:47:25] that they can.
[1:47:26] I have that one.
[1:47:27] Well, there's the one about with Laura Trump,
[1:47:30] but there's a ton more.
[1:47:33] I have a ton more.
[1:47:34] Well, let's play him.
[1:47:35] Well, you want that?
[1:47:36] You want to hear the the promotion of
[1:47:39] the book first?
[1:47:41] I want to hear the hear the clips
[1:47:43] first, then the promotion of the book.
[1:47:44] How do you think it makes little kids
[1:47:45] with stutters feel when they see you make
[1:47:48] a comment like that?
[1:47:49] It's very clearly a cognitive decline.
[1:47:52] That's what I'm referring to.
[1:47:53] It makes me uncomfortable.
[1:47:54] You have you are no.
[1:47:56] This is so amazing.
[1:47:58] It's so amazing to me that.
[1:47:59] And then try and figure out an answer.
[1:48:01] Cognitive decline of Biden embraces his stutter talking
[1:48:04] about it while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it,
[1:48:07] belittles it.
[1:48:07] He's sharp physically.
[1:48:09] I mean, mentally.
[1:48:10] I think the question is physically right.
[1:48:12] Right.
[1:48:12] Or so.
[1:48:13] Right.
[1:48:13] Right.
[1:48:13] And the guy who's his chief opponent is
[1:48:15] only three or four years younger than me.
[1:48:17] I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age,
[1:48:19] mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting
[1:48:22] Biden.
[1:48:22] You said, quote, shame on all of you
[1:48:23] pretending everything is OK.
[1:48:25] You're leading us and him into a disaster.
[1:48:27] Do you worry that you damaged him at
[1:48:28] all?
[1:48:28] I don't doubt that you got hugs and
[1:48:31] handshakes behind closed doors today and maybe even
[1:48:34] publicly some of them because they like you
[1:48:36] personally.
[1:48:37] But I've heard a lot of really nasty
[1:48:40] stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues.
[1:48:42] I mean, just like what is he thinking?
[1:48:45] Exercise and narcissism.
[1:48:47] I mean, false claims to The Wall Street
[1:48:48] Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity.
[1:48:52] He's 81 claims and his memory.
[1:48:54] You know, it doesn't seem great.
[1:48:56] It's not horrible.
[1:48:57] But I don't understand the outrage behind closed
[1:49:00] doors.
[1:49:00] Biden's shows signs of slipping.
[1:49:03] Unquote.
[1:49:03] The Wall Street Journal is owned by News
[1:49:04] Corp, which is run by the Murdoch's.
[1:49:06] Oh, yeah.
[1:49:07] Beyond the headline, there is some critical nuance
[1:49:08] here.
[1:49:09] The article is mostly based on observations of
[1:49:11] Republicans with former speaker Kevin McCarthy, the only
[1:49:14] one going on the record.
[1:49:16] They do note in the article that most
[1:49:18] of the criticism comes from Republicans.
[1:49:20] Have you heard any concerns from anyone who
[1:49:23] has met with President Biden about him seeing
[1:49:26] a little slower?
[1:49:27] No, the Russians are trying to do to
[1:49:29] make us and the public not trust the
[1:49:32] our election integrity.
[1:49:33] Joe Biden has dimension, all this stuff.
[1:49:35] It's all crazy.
[1:49:36] It's all crazy.
[1:49:37] Jake Tapper on the defense for years and
[1:49:40] now years and years and years.
[1:49:42] He did this continually.
[1:49:44] Laura Trump is still demanding an apology.
[1:49:47] He brought he's the one who promoted the
[1:49:50] stuttering idea.
[1:49:51] And as somebody pointed out, we've noticed this.
[1:49:54] He never stuttered before.
[1:49:55] Never had a stutter in his maybe when
[1:49:57] he was three, but he never stuttered throughout
[1:50:00] his career as a senator or even the
[1:50:02] vice president.
[1:50:02] Now, all of a sudden, he's a stutterer.
[1:50:04] You know, so Jake Tapper is a big
[1:50:06] phony.
[1:50:07] Well, what's amazing is how Jake Tapper can
[1:50:10] get up in the morning and shave and
[1:50:11] look at himself and think, yeah, I wrote
[1:50:13] a good book.
[1:50:14] A new book is outlining new claims about
[1:50:16] former President Biden's physical and mental health.
[1:50:19] The book Original Sin claims Biden's health had
[1:50:22] become so severe that there were internal discussions
[1:50:24] about putting the president in a wheelchair after
[1:50:27] the election.
[1:50:28] They started putting aids around him as he
[1:50:30] walked to Marine One, the helicopter that was
[1:50:33] to kind of hide from public view how
[1:50:35] bad his gait was, how bad his walking
[1:50:38] was.
[1:50:38] At a fundraiser last year with actor George
[1:50:40] Clooney, the author's claim Biden seemed severely diminished
[1:50:43] and did not recognize Clooney despite Biden knowing
[1:50:46] him for decades.
[1:50:47] According to the book, former President Obama, also
[1:50:49] at that fundraiser, had difficulty making sense of
[1:50:52] Biden's behavior and blamed Biden's busy schedule.
[1:50:55] But the authors say Obama would come to
[1:50:57] realize that scheduling was not the fundamental problem.
[1:51:00] A Biden spokesperson refutes the book, saying, we
[1:51:02] continue to await anything that shows where Joe
[1:51:05] Biden had to make a presidential decision or
[1:51:07] where national security was threatened or where he
[1:51:10] was unable to do his job.
[1:51:11] In fact, the evidence points to the opposite.
[1:51:14] He was a very effective president.
[1:51:16] Last week, Biden and the former first lady
[1:51:18] pushed back against a slate of new books
[1:51:19] claiming he was dealing with cognitive decline at
[1:51:22] the end of his presidency.
[1:51:24] You are wrong.
[1:51:25] There's nothing to sustain that.
[1:51:28] The people who wrote those books were not
[1:51:30] in the White House with us.
[1:51:32] And they didn't see how hard Joe worked
[1:51:35] every single day.
[1:51:37] A Biden spokesperson says the authors did not
[1:51:39] fact check the book with them.
[1:51:41] That's the best part.
[1:51:43] It didn't fact check it, man.
[1:51:45] None of it's true.
[1:51:46] This is, it's just amazing.
[1:51:49] Did ABC Good Morning America call them out
[1:51:52] for like, hey, everyone defended this sharp as
[1:51:54] attack over and over.
[1:51:56] And now, oh, it's a great.
[1:51:57] Does ABC own a publishing company like CBS
[1:52:00] does?
[1:52:00] Is that possible?
[1:52:01] I think they do.
[1:52:02] But I don't think that's the group that
[1:52:03] brought the book out.
[1:52:04] It's, I was.
[1:52:06] So there's a couple of different things here.
[1:52:08] But you continue and I'll, I was going
[1:52:11] to say was they should stop all of
[1:52:14] this.
[1:52:14] It's just elder abuse.
[1:52:15] The guy's over.
[1:52:16] He's done.
[1:52:17] It's like, let him just leave the guy
[1:52:19] be.
[1:52:20] Here's the problem.
[1:52:21] Here's the problem I have.
[1:52:23] The 25th Amendment doesn't work.
[1:52:27] It doesn't do Jack.
[1:52:29] It's pretty obvious.
[1:52:30] It wasn't from the last month of this
[1:52:32] administration.
[1:52:33] We saw it when he's wandering around, going
[1:52:36] into the jungle.
[1:52:37] He's loses his train of thought.
[1:52:41] Constantly losing his train of thought and then
[1:52:43] screaming dignity.
[1:52:45] And one thing or another.
[1:52:47] And obviously other people were running the White
[1:52:50] House.
[1:52:50] And there was the auto pen signing the
[1:52:52] documents.
[1:52:53] The 25th Amendment is a fraud.
[1:52:56] It doesn't work.
[1:52:58] No, it's never going to get executed.
[1:53:00] There has to be a coup.
[1:53:02] Do you, what do you recommend?
[1:53:04] I don't know.
[1:53:05] I think it has to go to Congress
[1:53:07] or somebody or some other form.
[1:53:09] I mean, the Congress could impeach, but that's
[1:53:12] no good because it's pretty almost impossible in
[1:53:14] this day and age.
[1:53:15] We know that doesn't work.
[1:53:16] Well, it won't work because you can't get
[1:53:18] enough people in the Senate because you need
[1:53:20] like 60 or 70 people to say yes.
[1:53:23] And that's not going to happen.
[1:53:25] And I don't know.
[1:53:27] I have no idea.
[1:53:28] All I know is that the 25th Amendment's
[1:53:30] a fraud.
[1:53:31] It was put in place because of Wilson.
[1:53:34] And this situation would have been the one
[1:53:37] where it should have been executed.
[1:53:39] But nobody's going to bring themselves to do
[1:53:41] it.
[1:53:41] Well, government is a fraud in that regard
[1:53:44] then.
[1:53:45] It's a governmental amendment, you know, the Senate
[1:53:47] and the Cabinet, and they can do this.
[1:53:51] But they don't.
[1:53:53] Because they were running the show and they
[1:53:57] loved it.
[1:53:58] Anthony Blinken.
[1:53:58] Where's Anthony, by the way?
[1:53:59] What's he doing?
[1:54:02] Does he have his consulting business up and
[1:54:03] running yet?
[1:54:04] No, he's probably working for some think tank.
[1:54:07] He'll be back.
[1:54:07] So of all the big news that the
[1:54:10] president had, which is, you know, trillions, well,
[1:54:13] no, he had $600 billion in deals, deals
[1:54:17] everywhere, deals.
[1:54:19] Of course, we're going to spend a trillion,
[1:54:21] we heard on defense, which is a good
[1:54:23] 100 to 200 billion more than the last,
[1:54:26] the last, the last, the last completely waste
[1:54:29] of money for an operation that can't be
[1:54:31] audited.
[1:54:31] The last big, beautiful bill.
[1:54:34] But I think the, the drug price executive
[1:54:36] order was, was big news because outside, you
[1:54:43] know, Congress is very hesitant to ever do
[1:54:49] anything against insurance companies.
[1:54:51] And of course, the unspoken of middlemen, the
[1:54:54] pharmacy benefit managers.
[1:54:56] And President Trump did just a beautiful job
[1:55:00] of explaining how massive the scam is of
[1:55:04] the overpayment we make in the United States
[1:55:08] with the insurance and the drug companies and
[1:55:12] the pharmacy benefit managers, where your copay is
[1:55:15] basically what every other country in the world
[1:55:17] pays for something.
[1:55:19] But somehow you got screwed.
[1:55:21] And you're still paying premiums for something.
[1:55:24] You have to pay the premiums and you
[1:55:27] have to pay the drug price to the
[1:55:29] premiums just to go into somebody's pocket.
[1:55:31] That's just like stealing.
[1:55:33] It's completely stealing.
[1:55:34] Of course, insurance companies really are nothing more
[1:55:36] or less than banks.
[1:55:37] And that's why everyone's deathly afraid of them.
[1:55:40] They don't do anything.
[1:55:41] But President Trump brought it to the people
[1:55:42] and he explained very well what was going
[1:55:45] on.
[1:55:46] I thought this was probably one of the
[1:55:47] best things he's ever done when it comes
[1:55:49] to explaining the problem.
[1:55:51] I brought it up with the drug companies
[1:55:52] represented by somebody who's very, very.
[1:55:54] I'm sorry, wrong one here.
[1:55:55] I mean, I'll tell you a story.
[1:55:56] A friend of mine who's a businessman, very,
[1:56:00] very, very top guy.
[1:56:02] Most of you would have heard of him.
[1:56:03] Yep.
[1:56:04] Highly neurotic.
[1:56:05] Who?
[1:56:05] What fat neurotic guy do we know that's
[1:56:08] very successful?
[1:56:09] Who could this be?
[1:56:10] Plenty of them.
[1:56:10] Okay.
[1:56:11] Brilliant businessman, seriously overweight.
[1:56:15] And he takes the fat, the fat shot.
[1:56:18] The fat shot.
[1:56:21] Everybody loved this.
[1:56:22] The fat, the fat shot.
[1:56:24] He's taking the fat shot.
[1:56:26] And he called me up.
[1:56:27] And he said, President, he calls me.
[1:56:31] He used to call me Donald.
[1:56:32] Now he calls me president.
[1:56:33] So that's nice respect.
[1:56:34] But he's a rough guy.
[1:56:35] Smart guy.
[1:56:36] Rough guy.
[1:56:37] Very successful.
[1:56:38] I wouldn't even know how we would know
[1:56:40] this.
[1:56:41] But because he's got comments, the president, could
[1:56:43] I ask you a question?
[1:56:44] What?
[1:56:44] I'm in London and I just paid for
[1:56:47] this damn fat drug I take.
[1:56:49] I said, it's not working.
[1:56:51] I love the Trump throws that in.
[1:56:53] It's not working, right?
[1:56:54] Is that the problem?
[1:56:55] It's not working.
[1:56:55] No, man, it's too.
[1:56:57] I'm a billionaire.
[1:56:58] It's too expensive.
[1:56:58] This fat shot.
[1:56:59] He said, he said, I just paid $88.
[1:57:05] And in New York, I pay $1,300.
[1:57:08] What the hell is going on?
[1:57:11] He said, so I checked.
[1:57:13] And it's the same box made in the
[1:57:16] same plant by the same company.
[1:57:19] It's the identical pill that I buy in
[1:57:21] New York.
[1:57:22] Hey, hold on a second.
[1:57:25] It was a shot.
[1:57:26] Now it's a pill.
[1:57:27] Yeah, there's a bunch of people that jumped
[1:57:29] on that.
[1:57:29] That's interesting.
[1:57:30] Do you think that was just an oversight
[1:57:32] on his part?
[1:57:33] He just made a mistake?
[1:57:34] Yeah, he's doing winging it.
[1:57:37] He's doing stick.
[1:57:38] He's doing stick.
[1:57:39] He's doing a stick.
[1:57:41] He just is not rehearsed.
[1:57:42] Most of his material that's funny is just
[1:57:44] off the cuff and he's working it.
[1:57:48] Yeah.
[1:57:48] And it's the same box made in the
[1:57:51] same plant by the same company.
[1:57:54] It's the identical pill that I buy in
[1:57:57] New York.
[1:57:58] And here I'm paying $88 in London.
[1:58:01] In New York, I'm paying $1,300.
[1:58:04] Now this is a great businessman.
[1:58:06] So but he's not familiar with this crazy
[1:58:08] situation that we have.
[1:58:10] But he was stunned.
[1:58:12] Stunned.
[1:58:13] He was stunned.
[1:58:14] And so then what does our president do?
[1:58:16] He goes and talks to the drug companies.
[1:58:18] Hey, drug man, the fat shot.
[1:58:21] Why is it so cheap over there and
[1:58:23] so expensive over here?
[1:58:24] I brought it up with the drug companies
[1:58:26] represented by somebody who's very, very smart.
[1:58:28] Good person too.
[1:58:30] And we argued about it for about half
[1:58:32] hour.
[1:58:32] And then finally, he just said, because they
[1:58:34] can't justify it.
[1:58:36] He just said, look, look, you got me.
[1:58:39] You got me.
[1:58:39] Yeah, you got me.
[1:58:40] Prez, you got me.
[1:58:42] You got me.
[1:58:43] It's like a couple of gangsters are on
[1:58:45] a table.
[1:58:45] Hey, man, how come that vig is so
[1:58:47] high?
[1:58:47] Hey, Mario, you got me.
[1:58:49] You got me.
[1:58:50] You got me.
[1:58:51] I can no longer just.
[1:58:52] They've been justifying this crap for years.
[1:58:55] They said, oh, it's research and development.
[1:58:57] I said, well, research and development.
[1:58:59] Other countries should pay research and development too.
[1:59:01] It's for their benefit.
[1:59:02] It was just one of those things.
[1:59:04] And the other countries would set a price
[1:59:06] and they'd meet the price.
[1:59:08] And they'd say, if you don't meet the
[1:59:10] price, you can't sell it in our country.
[1:59:12] I said, well, then you walk away.
[1:59:14] And, you know, they'll call you back and
[1:59:16] they'll sell it in the country.
[1:59:17] But now they'll have to do that.
[1:59:18] So for the first time in many years,
[1:59:20] we'll slash the cost of prescription drugs.
[1:59:23] And we will bring fairness to America.
[1:59:25] Drug prices will come down by much more,
[1:59:29] really, if you think.
[1:59:30] 59.
[1:59:30] If you think of a drug that is
[1:59:33] sometimes 10 times more expensive, it's much more
[1:59:36] than the 59%.
[1:59:38] You know, it depends on the way you
[1:59:40] want to analyze it.
[1:59:40] But in one way, you could analyze it
[1:59:42] that way.
[1:59:42] But between 59 and 80, and I guess
[1:59:45] even 90%.
[1:59:48] So when I worked so hard in the
[1:59:50] first term, and if I got prices down,
[1:59:53] I remember I was the only one to
[1:59:54] ever get prices down for a full year.
[1:59:56] But I'd get them down like 2%.
[1:59:58] And I thought it was like a big
[1:59:59] deal.
[2:00:00] Well, we're getting them down 60, 70, 80,
[2:00:03] 90%.
[2:00:07] So have you read the executive order about
[2:00:09] this?
[2:00:10] No, you have it right there, though.
[2:00:12] Of course I do.
[2:00:13] There's a couple of things that are of
[2:00:14] note, and this kind of flows into another
[2:00:18] freak out, not here in Fred, of course.
[2:00:20] Another freak out is about Medicare.
[2:00:23] That, you know, the big, beautiful bill, because
[2:00:26] they never really explained this part.
[2:00:29] The big, beautiful bill will have, you know,
[2:00:32] Medicare steep, steep cuts.
[2:00:34] Here, actually, I'll play this.
[2:00:35] House Speaker Mike Johnson today working to solve
[2:00:37] Republican in-party fighting.
[2:00:39] I think we'll get everybody to yes.
[2:00:40] As their proposed cuts to Medicaid divide the
[2:00:43] party.
[2:00:43] Late Sunday, Johnson unveiling their plan to cut
[2:00:45] hundreds of billions of dollars to Medicaid, fueling
[2:00:48] concerns it would leave millions of low-income
[2:00:51] and disabled Americans without care.
[2:00:53] You're going to die.
[2:00:54] I continue to maintain my position.
[2:00:57] We should not be cutting Medicaid benefits.
[2:00:58] Republican Senator Josh Hawley yesterday with an op
[2:01:01] -ed in the New York Times, writing, if
[2:01:02] Congress cuts funding for Medicaid benefits, Missouri workers
[2:01:05] and their children will lose their health care
[2:01:07] and hospitals will close.
[2:01:09] It's that simple.
[2:01:10] And that pattern will replicate in states across
[2:01:13] the country.
[2:01:13] I love how hospitals will close has nothing
[2:01:16] to do with hospitals.
[2:01:17] But Hawley is jumping on the bandwagon.
[2:01:20] And he's wrong in this case, because the
[2:01:21] numbers add up.
[2:01:22] If you look at what's happening here.
[2:01:24] We are struggling with rural health care coverage.
[2:01:27] And, you know, Republicans, we need to be
[2:01:28] making that better, not worse.
[2:01:32] Protesters today blocking the doors to one of
[2:01:34] the hearings on Capitol Hill, where members of
[2:01:36] Congress dissect the proposed cuts.
[2:01:38] A critical piece of the big, beautiful bill.
[2:01:40] President Trump has been asking for to fund
[2:01:42] his agenda.
[2:01:43] With the one big, beautiful bill, we can
[2:01:46] ignite the second Trump economic boom and improve
[2:01:50] the lives of millions of our neighbors back
[2:01:52] home.
[2:01:52] If the cuts are approved, it would go
[2:01:54] against what Trump said back in February.
[2:01:56] Can you guarantee that Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security
[2:01:59] will not be touched?
[2:02:00] Yeah, I mean, I have said it so
[2:02:02] many times.
[2:02:03] You shouldn't be asking me that question.
[2:02:05] OK, this will not be read my lips.
[2:02:08] It won't be read my lips anymore.
[2:02:11] We're not going to touch it.
[2:02:13] Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says the cuts
[2:02:15] would slash Medicaid more than ever before.
[2:02:18] It's cruel.
[2:02:19] It's heartbreaking.
[2:02:21] Senate Democrats will continue to expose this devastating
[2:02:24] plan and fight for American families.
[2:02:26] Blah, blah, blah.
[2:02:27] So the whole point of the executive order,
[2:02:30] which, of course, is an executive order.
[2:02:31] So if it doesn't turn into legislation at
[2:02:34] some point, it goes away.
[2:02:36] But the whole point is you can slash
[2:02:38] money from the Medicaid budget because Medicaid is
[2:02:42] overpaying for all of these drugs.
[2:02:45] Because, of course, Medicaid pays pretty much full
[2:02:47] price.
[2:02:49] What the insurance companies and the pharmacy benefit
[2:02:52] managers have jacked this all up to.
[2:02:54] But President Trump's executive order is to make
[2:02:57] it a most favored nation pricing.
[2:03:00] And there's a whole bunch of existing laws
[2:03:02] on the books, like the Sherman Act and
[2:03:04] all kinds of stuff where this can be
[2:03:06] done.
[2:03:06] So that Medicaid will have to pay a
[2:03:08] lot less.
[2:03:09] No one will actually lose anything.
[2:03:11] That's the theory, at least.
[2:03:12] No one will lose any medicines.
[2:03:16] They will just be cheaper to the United
[2:03:18] States government and the United States people.
[2:03:20] But the real gotcha in here is Section
[2:03:23] 4, enabling direct-to-consumer sales to American
[2:03:27] patients at the most favored nation price.
[2:03:30] To the extent consistent with the law, the
[2:03:34] Secretary of Health and Human Services, Bobby Beopp,
[2:03:36] shall facilitate direct-to-consumer purchasing programs for
[2:03:40] pharmaceutical manufacturers that sell their products to American
[2:03:44] patients at the most favored nation price.
[2:03:47] So you will finally be able to buy
[2:03:49] your medication at a normal price, which most
[2:03:52] of you are already doing, from India, from
[2:03:55] any other place.
[2:03:56] That's the big gotcha here.
[2:03:59] You know, if you look for ivermectin, you
[2:04:03] can get 2,000 ivermectin pills for like
[2:04:07] 50 bucks from India.
[2:04:08] If you can buy it in America, it's
[2:04:11] going to be hundreds of dollars.
[2:04:13] So he's really put in a bypass here
[2:04:15] that also goes for hospitals and pharmacies, etc.,
[2:04:20] where you can get your stuff at most
[2:04:22] favored nation pricing and go around the system.
[2:04:25] I think it's long overdue.
[2:04:30] And everything else is just bullcrap.
[2:04:36] Okay.
[2:04:37] I don't have anything to add to that.
[2:04:39] No, there's nothing to add.
[2:04:41] Just staying with pharma for one minute.
[2:04:44] I told you it was coming, that the
[2:04:46] Deutsche Lady, she had her commission, the Pfizer
[2:04:50] commission.
[2:04:51] They investigated what happened with Pfizer and Ursula
[2:04:55] and the text messages.
[2:04:57] And they figured it all out.
[2:05:00] And nothing will happen.
[2:05:01] This is a legal and political thunderclap.
[2:05:04] The general court of the European Union has
[2:05:06] condemned the European commission's lack of transparency in
[2:05:09] the negotiations on vaccines during the COVID-19
[2:05:12] pandemic.
[2:05:13] The judges annulled the commission's refusal to disclose
[2:05:15] the text messages exchanged between its president and
[2:05:18] the head of Pfizer.
[2:05:19] These text messages between Ursula von der Leyen
[2:05:21] and the pharmaceutical giant took place during negotiations
[2:05:24] on the purchase of almost 2 billion doses.
[2:05:27] The commission maintains that it does not hold
[2:05:29] these text messages and that their content was
[2:05:32] insubstantial.
[2:05:33] Not a convincing line of defense.
[2:05:35] For the moment, it's still unclear why they
[2:05:38] thought that these messages did not include important
[2:05:41] information.
[2:05:42] So this needs to be clarified.
[2:05:45] And also, in a way, we can see
[2:05:47] that in general, there is still a lot
[2:05:49] of secrecy around this.
[2:05:50] We still don't know.
[2:05:51] It's still unclear if these messages were deleted,
[2:05:54] if, as the courts say, were deleted on
[2:05:56] purpose, automatically.
[2:05:57] What happened there?
[2:05:58] In our opinion, since the beginning, text messages
[2:06:01] should be included.
[2:06:03] The court criticized the commission for failing to
[2:06:05] provide credible evidence to explain why it was
[2:06:08] unable to provide these text messages at the
[2:06:10] request of a journalist from the New York
[2:06:12] Times.
[2:06:13] In addition, the judges considered that the institution
[2:06:15] was unable to clearly specify whether or not
[2:06:18] these text messages had been deleted.
[2:06:20] The commission remains unclear on this issue.
[2:06:23] I didn't say that any messages were deleted.
[2:06:25] What I did say were that, as in
[2:06:28] any access to documents request, what we first
[2:06:31] do is to check, are there any registered
[2:06:34] documents that fall within the scope of the
[2:06:36] request?
[2:06:37] We did that, didn't find any.
[2:06:38] The commission considers that the judgment does not
[2:06:41] call into question the procedures for registering documents,
[2:06:43] but rather a lack of explanation.
[2:06:45] It interprets the court decision as an indication
[2:06:48] that it will have to justify itself better
[2:06:50] in the future.
[2:06:51] Oh, you know, they deleted themselves.
[2:06:55] It's, you know, it's just what happens.
[2:06:59] This, and Ursula just wafts away, no problem.
[2:07:05] She's gonna walk away with no problem anyway.
[2:07:08] Yeah, there is, of course, somewhere there's a
[2:07:10] record of these text messages.
[2:07:12] Yeah.
[2:07:13] The NSA has it.
[2:07:16] I'm sure the NSA does have it.
[2:07:17] I'm sure somebody has it.
[2:07:20] So, well, I'm glad the German lady did
[2:07:22] all that work for nothing.
[2:07:24] Nothing, nothing, nothing comes out of these things.
[2:07:26] They're corrupt.
[2:07:28] Corrupt.
[2:07:31] R.F.K. Jr. Well, I guess I
[2:07:35] got one clip from the hearing.
[2:07:36] They were grilling him left and right.
[2:07:39] R.F.K. Jr. is in front of
[2:07:40] Congress, in front of, first he's in front
[2:07:42] of Congress, then he was in front of
[2:07:44] the Senate.
[2:07:45] What was it all about?
[2:07:46] Was it just to grill him?
[2:07:47] Because he's a bad guy and he's, they're
[2:07:49] trying to get rid of him.
[2:07:51] And so they're trying to embarrass him.
[2:07:53] They can't do it.
[2:07:55] Trying to contradict him.
[2:07:56] That clip that was, what was it, we
[2:08:00] talked about a couple of shows ago of
[2:08:03] the guy, head of one of the committees
[2:08:05] that's supposed to be running Kennedy.
[2:08:07] R.F.K. Jr. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2:08:08] I'm in charge of him.
[2:08:10] I own him.
[2:08:11] He has to talk to me every month.
[2:08:13] That guy?
[2:08:13] R.F.K. Jr. Yeah, that guy.
[2:08:15] So he's got a couple of compatriots.
[2:08:18] They're all Democrats.
[2:08:19] These Democrats, I mean, they loved Kennedy until
[2:08:21] he became a Republican.
[2:08:22] This is really simple.
[2:08:24] But let's listen to him go.
[2:08:26] This is it's went on with all of
[2:08:27] them.
[2:08:28] But especially the Democrats, the Republicans were fine.
[2:08:30] But the Democrats kept trying to, you know,
[2:08:34] they're pushing vaccines.
[2:08:35] Oh, the measles thing.
[2:08:36] You had two dead kids.
[2:08:38] My God.
[2:08:39] And we had 20 shootings in Oakland.
[2:08:42] Doesn't matter.
[2:08:42] But these two dead kids.
[2:08:44] No, they're black.
[2:08:45] It doesn't matter.
[2:08:46] This doesn't matter.
[2:08:46] So so here's one of the back and
[2:08:49] forths.
[2:08:50] Health Secretary Robert F.
[2:08:51] Kennedy Jr. says that reducing dependency on China
[2:08:54] for critical medicines is a priority for him
[2:08:56] and the Trump administration.
[2:08:58] NTT correspondent Jason Blair has more from Kennedy's
[2:09:01] testimony on Capitol Hill.
[2:09:03] They're directly and narrowly focused on creating dominance
[2:09:07] across the globe.
[2:09:08] During a House committee meeting, HHS Secretary Robert
[2:09:11] F.
[2:09:11] Kennedy Jr. agreed when asked if over relying
[2:09:15] on China for critical pharmaceuticals poses a threat.
[2:09:18] We saw the problem with supply chain control
[2:09:21] by the Chinese during COVID.
[2:09:23] And this is a priority for me and
[2:09:25] for this administration.
[2:09:26] RFK Jr. says that they've been working hard
[2:09:28] to bring more medicine production into the US
[2:09:31] and that he's been meeting with pharmaceutical CEOs.
[2:09:35] I've met repeatedly with Eli Lilly, which is
[2:09:39] now building nine facilities, nine factories in this
[2:09:41] country.
[2:09:42] Kennedy says that China also has a program
[2:09:45] called the Thousand Talents Program that is designed
[2:09:48] to steal US IP and technology.
[2:09:51] And we have facilitated that at NIH.
[2:09:54] I funded Chinese scientists with contracts that don't
[2:09:58] require them even to report their science back
[2:10:01] to our country.
[2:10:01] But they give it directly to Chinese military
[2:10:03] scientists on bioweapons research that we gave them
[2:10:07] the technology for.
[2:10:08] After testifying in front of the House Appropriations
[2:10:11] Committee, Kennedy was a witness in a second
[2:10:14] hearing in front of the Senate.
[2:10:18] He was interrupted by protesters during his opening
[2:10:22] statement.
[2:10:22] The witness will suspend.
[2:10:23] The committee will come to order.
[2:10:25] Tina told me that the guy from Ben
[2:10:28] and Jerry's was protesting.
[2:10:31] I don't get the protests at all.
[2:10:33] What are they protesting against?
[2:10:35] I don't get it.
[2:10:37] It seems like a plant to me.
[2:10:38] But then the best clips are these, which
[2:10:40] is Chris Murphy comes on and he starts
[2:10:43] asking Kennedy a bunch of pointed questions.
[2:10:46] And Chris Murphy is a showboater from Connecticut.
[2:10:48] He shows up a lot.
[2:10:50] He's trying to become president.
[2:10:52] He sucks.
[2:10:52] He's stupid.
[2:10:54] And here he goes into it.
[2:10:56] This is a Chris Murphy series.
[2:10:58] This is him talking to Kennedy.
[2:10:59] That is not what happened.
[2:11:00] You've done the opposite.
[2:11:01] You canceled $12 billion in grants to the
[2:11:04] states, including my state, that are used to
[2:11:06] administer and track vaccines.
[2:11:08] You promised Chairman Cassidy.
[2:11:10] When did I do that?
[2:11:12] Madam Chair, would you allow me to finish
[2:11:13] my question?
[2:11:15] Keep going with your questions.
[2:11:15] When did I do that?
[2:11:16] Let me, let me, let me finish my
[2:11:19] question.
[2:11:20] Just tell me when I did it so
[2:11:21] I can understand what the question is.
[2:11:24] You have canceled $12 billion in public health
[2:11:28] grants to states, whether you know this or
[2:11:30] not.
[2:11:31] That funding is used by the states in
[2:11:33] part to be able to administer and dispense
[2:11:38] information about vaccines.
[2:11:40] Hmm.
[2:11:42] Why does it take $12 billion to administer
[2:11:48] information about vaccines?
[2:11:50] Hey, I'll take $1 billion and talk about
[2:11:53] it three hours long, twice a week.
[2:11:56] It's unbelievable.
[2:11:57] That's just scam, obviously.
[2:11:59] For one state.
[2:12:00] But could he answer the question about it?
[2:12:02] Did he even know why it had been
[2:12:04] canceled?
[2:12:04] Well, it continues pretty much in order.
[2:12:07] So here he comes.
[2:12:08] Let me give you, Mr. Secretary, let me
[2:12:10] give you, let me, let me give you
[2:12:12] the full panoply of the things you said
[2:12:17] before this committee that didn't turn out to
[2:12:19] be true.
[2:12:19] You also promised Chairman Cassidy that the FDA
[2:12:23] would not change vaccine standards from, quote, historical
[2:12:26] norms.
[2:12:27] But what happened as soon as you were
[2:12:29] sworn in?
[2:12:29] You announced new standards for vaccine approvals that
[2:12:33] you proudly referred to in your own press
[2:12:35] release as a radical departure from current practice.
[2:12:39] And experts say that that departure will delay
[2:12:41] approvals.
[2:12:43] You also said specific to the measles vaccine
[2:12:45] that you support the measles vaccine.
[2:12:47] But you have consistently been undermining the measles
[2:12:51] vaccine.
[2:12:51] You told the public that the vaccine wanes
[2:12:53] very quickly.
[2:12:54] You went on the Dr. Phil show and
[2:12:56] said that the measles vaccine was never fully
[2:12:58] tested for safety.
[2:12:59] You said there's fetal debris in the measles
[2:13:02] vaccine.
[2:13:03] And this morning- All true, all true.
[2:13:05] This morning in front of- Do you
[2:13:06] want me to lie to the public?
[2:13:08] That's not, none of that is true.
[2:13:09] None of that is true.
[2:13:09] Of course it's true.
[2:13:10] That is true.
[2:13:11] Of course it's true.
[2:13:12] I'm sorry, Mr. Secretary, that is true.
[2:13:13] You've got your senator begging your property.
[2:13:15] And I will submit- You do not
[2:13:15] know what you're talking about.
[2:13:17] For the record.
[2:13:18] Let's have a little bit of order so
[2:13:20] that you can get your question and he
[2:13:22] can get his.
[2:13:22] I didn't ask, I didn't ask for a
[2:13:24] response yet.
[2:13:25] I understand that.
[2:13:25] I'd like to lay out the predicate of
[2:13:26] my question before I'm interrupted by the witness.
[2:13:28] He should have some respect for this committee.
[2:13:31] By the way, the Ben and Jerry's guy,
[2:13:35] Ben, Ben Cohen, he was kicked out of
[2:13:39] the hearing with Robert Kennedy Jr. for protesting
[2:13:41] Congress's funding of the Israeli military.
[2:13:46] He went to the wrong hearing somehow.
[2:13:49] Oh, that's funny.
[2:13:51] It's just like, uh, no.
[2:13:54] It's like a Woody Allen movie.
[2:13:57] Exactly.
[2:13:58] So we wrap it with this one.
[2:14:00] Just this morning in front of the House
[2:14:02] of Representatives, you also said that you, in
[2:14:04] fact, would not recommend that kids get vaccinated
[2:14:07] for measles.
[2:14:08] You said you would just lay out the
[2:14:10] pros and cons.
[2:14:12] Okay, so this is the summation of everything
[2:14:15] that you have said to compromise people's faith
[2:14:19] in the measles vaccine in particular is contrary
[2:14:22] to what you said before this committee.
[2:14:24] You said you support the measles vaccine.
[2:14:26] But then you have laid out a set
[2:14:28] of facts that are contested.
[2:14:29] And I will submit information for the record
[2:14:31] from experts who contest what you've said about
[2:14:34] the vaccine.
[2:14:35] And the result is to undermine faith in
[2:14:37] the vaccine.
[2:14:37] It's kind of like saying, listen, I think
[2:14:39] you should swim in that lake.
[2:14:41] But, you know, the lake is probably toxic
[2:14:43] and there's probably a ton of snakes and
[2:14:44] alligators in that lake.
[2:14:45] But I think you should swim in it.
[2:14:47] Nobody's going to swim in that lake if
[2:14:48] that's what you say.
[2:14:49] And so I want you to acknowledge that
[2:14:51] when you say you support the measles vaccine
[2:14:53] and then go out and repeatedly undermine the
[2:14:56] vaccine with information that is contested by public
[2:14:59] health experts, that is not supporting the vaccine.
[2:15:03] And so I guess I have two simple
[2:15:05] questions for you.
[2:15:06] One is, can you clarify what you said
[2:15:09] in the House this morning?
[2:15:10] Are you or are you not recommending that
[2:15:13] families get their children vaccinated?
[2:15:15] Or are you just giving people the pros
[2:15:18] and cons?
[2:15:19] And do you understand that when you say
[2:15:22] these things about the measles vaccine, what ends
[2:15:24] up happening is less people get the vaccine?
[2:15:26] That may be what you want.
[2:15:28] But do you understand that the result of
[2:15:30] constantly questioning the efficacy or safety of the
[2:15:33] vaccine results in less people getting the vaccine?
[2:15:36] So I don't necessarily want to spend the
[2:15:38] remaining 20 seconds in an argument over the
[2:15:40] science, but you at least understand that that's
[2:15:43] the consequence of what you're saying.
[2:15:45] And are you actually still recommending people get
[2:15:47] the vaccine or are you not?
[2:15:49] Senator, if I advise you to swim in
[2:15:51] a lake, then I knew there to be
[2:15:53] alligators.
[2:15:53] And wouldn't you want me to tell you
[2:15:55] there were alligators in it?
[2:15:56] So are you recommending the measles vaccine or
[2:15:59] not?
[2:15:59] What I've said and what I said-
[2:16:02] Doesn't sound like you are, if that's-
[2:16:04] Are you going to let me answer?
[2:16:06] Are you going to keep it or are
[2:16:07] you not?
[2:16:08] Are you going to let me answer?
[2:16:10] What I pledged before this committee during my
[2:16:13] confirmation is that I would tell the truth,
[2:16:14] that I would have radical transparency.
[2:16:17] I'm going to tell the truth about everything
[2:16:19] we know and we don't know about vaccines.
[2:16:21] Are you recommending the measles vaccine or not?
[2:16:22] I am not going to just tell people
[2:16:24] everything is safe and effective if I know
[2:16:26] that there's issues.
[2:16:27] I need to respect people's intelligence.
[2:16:30] Thank you for answering the question.
[2:16:31] Wow, I don't think I saw that clip
[2:16:33] on mainstream news.
[2:16:35] I wonder why.
[2:16:38] I have a lot of really good clips
[2:16:41] about big pharma because outside of the military
[2:16:44] industrial complex, which runs a lot, that is
[2:16:48] probably number two.
[2:16:49] They certainly run the media.
[2:16:50] But before we do that, I'd like to
[2:16:54] thank you for your courage to say in
[2:16:55] the morning to you, the man who put
[2:16:56] the C's in the caravan of camels, say
[2:16:58] hello to my friend on the other end,
[2:17:00] the one, the only, Mr. John C.
[2:17:03] DeWaar.
[2:17:05] Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
[2:17:07] Adam Crane.
[2:17:07] Morning to you, Mr. Steve Woodson.
[2:17:08] Raffy in the air.
[2:17:09] Sub's DeWaar.
[2:17:09] Name's nice out there.
[2:17:10] And in the morning to the trolls in
[2:17:11] the troll room.
[2:17:12] Hello there, trolls.
[2:17:13] How you doing?
[2:17:14] How you rocking?
[2:17:14] How you rolling?
[2:17:15] Hello.
[2:17:16] Oh, we don't have a peak troll count
[2:17:18] for some reason.
[2:17:19] Why is that now?
[2:17:21] Always something.
[2:17:23] It's always something.
[2:17:24] We're around 1500 right now, but usually it's
[2:17:29] probably around 18, 1900.
[2:17:32] Interesting.
[2:17:32] Didn't show up.
[2:17:33] Anyway, the trolls are there.
[2:17:34] The trolls are very cynical.
[2:17:36] I've noticed.
[2:17:36] I've been paying attention to them today.
[2:17:38] They're like, it's all performative.
[2:17:41] No, they don't care.
[2:17:42] These people are no good.
[2:17:44] We're all going to die.
[2:17:47] They have no joy.
[2:17:49] Where's your joy and chaos, trolls?
[2:17:51] It's all good.
[2:17:52] It's all good.
[2:17:53] It really is.
[2:17:53] Everything's going to be fine.
[2:17:55] This is a show put on for your
[2:17:57] benefit.
[2:17:58] It's just a show.
[2:18:01] Bobby the Op is right.
[2:18:02] I'm not going to tell you to swim
[2:18:03] in the lake if there's alligators in that.
[2:18:05] I'm not going to do that.
[2:18:06] No.
[2:18:10] So the trolls are in the troll room,
[2:18:12] trollroom.io. If you want to go in
[2:18:14] there and be beaten around like you're in
[2:18:15] a bouncy ball, fill, you know, one of
[2:18:17] those ball bins with kids.
[2:18:19] Yeah, that's a good place to go.
[2:18:21] And of course, you can listen to the
[2:18:22] live stream or use a modern podcast app.
[2:18:24] Fountain, by the way, is coming out with
[2:18:26] a new version where you can boost with
[2:18:30] dollars right from the app.
[2:18:31] Did I tell you that already?
[2:18:33] Yeah, you did last show.
[2:18:34] Oh, okay.
[2:18:35] Yeah.
[2:18:35] You went on and on about it.
[2:18:36] Yeah, because that's what I've been...
[2:18:38] Ever since Apple made the change where you
[2:18:40] can have an alternative payment method in your
[2:18:42] app, because that was the whole thing, is
[2:18:45] you can't do it now.
[2:18:47] No, they lost that big epic court case
[2:18:49] and the judge excoriated them.
[2:18:52] So they have to.
[2:18:53] They have to allow buttons and links in
[2:18:55] apps that do not use the Apple in
[2:18:59] -app payment system, i.e. Apple gets 30
[2:19:02] % of it.
[2:19:03] So that's good news.
[2:19:04] It's good news for freedom, John.
[2:19:06] For freedom.
[2:19:08] Freedom, baby.
[2:19:09] Screw your freedom.
[2:19:11] That's right.
[2:19:12] It's a good day for freedom.
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[2:19:19] bat signal when we go live.
[2:19:21] Many of these shows go live, and you'll
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[2:19:25] Everything is all there.
[2:19:26] You get the chapters.
[2:19:27] You get all kinds of groovy stuff.
[2:19:28] And, of course, when we post the show,
[2:19:31] within 90 seconds, these modern apps know about
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[2:19:33] Don't spend hours of your time wasting around
[2:19:36] waiting for Apple to update.
[2:19:38] It's just not worth it.
[2:19:40] Value for value is how we hope to
[2:19:42] continue with this podcast, which means if you
[2:19:45] get anything out of the program, and you
[2:19:48] feel like, you know, I got a good
[2:19:50] stock tip.
[2:19:51] I learned something that I can impress my
[2:19:53] family with.
[2:19:54] I felt better.
[2:19:55] I just felt better because I don't feel
[2:19:57] all spun up about all the nonsense that's
[2:19:59] being thrown at me 24-7 online and
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[2:20:05] Well, then just send something back to us.
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[2:20:18] They do it live while we're on the
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[2:20:22] They use a variety of tools.
[2:20:26] And it's clear that the tool of choice,
[2:20:29] although expertly applied, was artificial intelligence generative AI
[2:20:34] for the episode 1763, which was on Sunday.
[2:20:37] We titled that AI Factory.
[2:20:39] We were contemplating doing A1 Factory to stay
[2:20:43] online with our fine secretary of education, but
[2:20:47] we decided against that because we thought people
[2:20:49] would probably look at it and think that
[2:20:50] we were the dopes and not the secretary
[2:20:52] of education.
[2:20:53] I know, it's a fine line.
[2:20:55] Very fine line, very fine line.
[2:20:57] However, Francisco Scaramanga, I mean, we went way
[2:21:02] off base.
[2:21:03] We're traditionalists when it comes to holidays and
[2:21:07] observances for veterans or for Christmas or Easter,
[2:21:14] and Mother's Day has always been kind of
[2:21:16] sacred for us, and we veered off the
[2:21:19] path.
[2:21:20] No.
[2:21:21] What do you mean, no?
[2:21:22] We went over this and over this and
[2:21:24] over this, and I came...
[2:21:26] You, yes, you.
[2:21:28] I said, I like this piece, and you
[2:21:29] said it was gruesome, which is a rule.
[2:21:32] I said, does it apply to the gruesome
[2:21:35] rule?
[2:21:36] Can we apply that to this piece of
[2:21:38] art?
[2:21:38] The gruesome rule, I think, was in play,
[2:21:40] and so I looked at it, and I
[2:21:42] think it's a hilarious piece.
[2:21:43] It's very funny.
[2:21:44] By the way, I will say this.
[2:21:47] There is a bunch of these AI art
[2:21:49] pieces that come out dingy.
[2:21:52] Yeah, dingy.
[2:21:53] And somebody's got to fix this.
[2:21:56] The art is dingy.
[2:21:58] We had this, the last couple of pieces
[2:22:00] came out dingy.
[2:22:01] There's no white.
[2:22:04] The dynamic range of the piece is minimal.
[2:22:08] So it's muddy looking.
[2:22:09] Because it's a photocopy of something else.
[2:22:11] Who knows what it is.
[2:22:13] But the piece I really liked was Happy
[2:22:15] Mother's Day by Darren O'Neill with the
[2:22:18] flying mom.
[2:22:19] You're not an NPC.
[2:22:21] I was pushing that at the end, but
[2:22:23] then you, because I had first chosen this,
[2:22:26] you had said, No, you're going to eat
[2:22:28] it.
[2:22:28] And this is going to be your fault.
[2:22:31] And you insisted that we take this horrible
[2:22:34] piece by Scaramanga.
[2:22:35] You are turning history around.
[2:22:37] I'm telling you the story.
[2:22:38] The pregnant mom, the kid in a body
[2:22:40] suit, with a package, as you put it.
[2:22:43] And the poor girl with the eyes got
[2:22:46] poked.
[2:22:48] I mean, it's just a tremendously gross piece.
[2:22:51] From now on, I'm taping our conversations about
[2:22:54] art so I can play back the truth.
[2:22:56] You said, I love this piece.
[2:22:59] This is a great piece.
[2:23:00] And I said, I said, no, this is
[2:23:02] horrible.
[2:23:03] And by the way, the kid has a
[2:23:04] huge package.
[2:23:05] This is weird.
[2:23:06] This is not good.
[2:23:07] That's what I said.
[2:23:08] That's what you said.
[2:23:09] Yeah, but you were pushing for this.
[2:23:11] You weren't pushing for anything else.
[2:23:12] She's like, this is the one, man.
[2:23:13] This is it.
[2:23:14] This is the one.
[2:23:16] And you said Francisco Scaramanga is great.
[2:23:19] I heard you say it.
[2:23:20] I heard you say it.
[2:23:21] He is great.
[2:23:22] He's great.
[2:23:23] But so is Darren.
[2:23:24] Darren is very good.
[2:23:25] I actually use the mom with the flying
[2:23:28] mom as a bat signal piece of art.
[2:23:30] I like that as well.
[2:23:31] However, it was Francisco Scaramanga who scores once
[2:23:35] again with his kegger for mom art.
[2:23:37] That's what the title is.
[2:23:39] And I'm just looking to see if there
[2:23:40] was anything.
[2:23:41] I think I pushed maybe for one other
[2:23:44] Mother's Day.
[2:23:45] No, there really wasn't.
[2:23:47] It was weak.
[2:23:50] Yes, and a lot of the art is
[2:23:51] dingy.
[2:23:52] You're right.
[2:23:52] You're so right about that.
[2:23:54] That's an interesting observation.
[2:23:55] A lot of Pope.
[2:23:57] A lot of Pope stuff.
[2:23:58] A lot of raw dogging.
[2:23:59] A lot of raw dogging.
[2:24:00] I probably noticed this more with this, with
[2:24:02] not this piece, but the one, the last
[2:24:04] piece would look good on the art generator.
[2:24:06] But then when it showed up on the,
[2:24:07] it was dingy.
[2:24:09] It didn't have any white.
[2:24:11] Yeah.
[2:24:12] Yeah.
[2:24:12] It's not white.
[2:24:13] The contrast was minimized.
[2:24:16] And they said the Scaramanga piece is probably
[2:24:18] the worst example of this.
[2:24:20] There is no dynamic range.
[2:24:22] No, no.
[2:24:23] But don't worry.
[2:24:24] We'll fix it.
[2:24:24] Once we have more compute.
[2:24:28] Try a different system.
[2:24:30] I had lunch with a new guy in
[2:24:32] town.
[2:24:32] He's a little bit younger than me, which
[2:24:33] was nice.
[2:24:34] Everyone's a little bit older than me.
[2:24:36] Wait, wait.
[2:24:37] How did this come about?
[2:24:39] Oh, they moved.
[2:24:40] He's just walking down the street and just
[2:24:41] had lunch with some rando?
[2:24:42] Hey, now he actually does the mixing at
[2:24:46] church for the worship team, which is Christianese
[2:24:49] for band.
[2:24:52] And he's a musician.
[2:24:53] So he plays guitar, but he's doing all
[2:24:56] the mixing.
[2:24:57] And finally, it's starting to sound good.
[2:24:58] It really sounds good.
[2:25:00] And he is a sales guy for the
[2:25:03] hyperscalers.
[2:25:05] And so he said, so I won't mention
[2:25:08] his company, but they sell AI products and
[2:25:10] they sell products where you can select the
[2:25:13] model you want.
[2:25:15] And so I said, oh, this is great.
[2:25:16] So we sit, so I go out to
[2:25:18] lunch.
[2:25:18] We go out to lunch, have a little
[2:25:19] chat.
[2:25:20] And I said, well, what do you think
[2:25:21] of this AI?
[2:25:21] He says, you know, people in the industry
[2:25:24] are saying, this is like jet travel.
[2:25:26] This changes everything.
[2:25:27] He says, this is bull crap.
[2:25:29] He says, it's all still machine learning and
[2:25:31] it's pretty good at it.
[2:25:33] But there's no, like me, he says, there's
[2:25:34] no intelligence in this artificial intelligence.
[2:25:37] Zero, zero.
[2:25:38] He says, we're not even at 0.1
[2:25:40] % of anything intelligent.
[2:25:42] Now, if you give it structured data and
[2:25:45] you want to sift through it and find
[2:25:46] things and categorize, yeah, that's machine learning.
[2:25:49] It's machine learning.
[2:25:50] That's where we were before the AI hype
[2:25:52] took off.
[2:25:53] Then it took off because people like Scaramanga
[2:25:55] can make this stuff.
[2:25:56] And we're like, we're gobsmacked.
[2:25:58] Like, wow, this is great.
[2:25:59] How did you do that?
[2:26:00] Or you can make a country song because
[2:26:02] all the AI generators only make country songs.
[2:26:05] You notice that?
[2:26:07] Oh man, I made a great song with
[2:26:08] AI.
[2:26:09] It's always a country song.
[2:26:11] So that's just, he agrees with me.
[2:26:13] It's just a parlor trick.
[2:26:15] So that made me feel very good.
[2:26:17] I paid for lunch.
[2:26:18] Good to go.
[2:26:19] Wow.
[2:26:20] He got you.
[2:26:22] What else do you want me to say
[2:26:24] that I agree with?
[2:26:26] Hey, a big $49 check at Werner's Cafe.
[2:26:29] I think- 49 bucks for lunch is
[2:26:31] a lot.
[2:26:32] It's Fredericksburg, baby.
[2:26:34] It's better to eat at home here.
[2:26:36] For two people?
[2:26:37] Two sandwiches, two drinks, and pie?
[2:26:40] 49 bucks is kind of- What do
[2:26:42] you pay for in California for that?
[2:26:46] $3.50. Okay.
[2:26:47] All right.
[2:26:49] I'm moving to Cali.
[2:26:50] They'll tax you on the back end.
[2:26:52] Don't worry.
[2:26:52] They make it up in volume.
[2:26:54] So thank you very much, Francisco Scaramanga.
[2:26:56] Thank you to all of our artists who
[2:26:58] diligently participate in this wacky contest at noagendaartgenerator
[2:27:02] .com.
[2:27:03] We really do appreciate what you do.
[2:27:06] Now to the donations.
[2:27:07] It'll be a quick list.
[2:27:08] And of course, I've been grousing about this
[2:27:11] because this is the lowest that's been in
[2:27:12] a long time.
[2:27:13] I want to point out that this is
[2:27:15] the only gig we have.
[2:27:16] So, you know, and this is a full
[2:27:19] -time job.
[2:27:20] And it's not so much about, you know,
[2:27:23] executive producers, associate executive producers.
[2:27:25] That's really nice.
[2:27:27] But it's really where are the people who
[2:27:28] just appreciate us and just give us five
[2:27:31] bucks a show?
[2:27:32] That's what I'm missing.
[2:27:34] Well, the over 50s today.
[2:27:36] Yeah.
[2:27:36] In other words, everybody, including associate executive producers
[2:27:39] and people paid over 50, is a grand
[2:27:41] total of 28 people.
[2:27:43] Yeah.
[2:27:44] Since the newsletter is 29,000 something.
[2:27:47] This is less than one person per thousand.
[2:27:50] That's the newsletter.
[2:27:51] And we have about 800,000 to a
[2:27:53] million listeners.
[2:27:54] Well, I'm going to take a look right
[2:27:55] now.
[2:27:56] I'll take a look at that.
[2:27:57] And only 28 people.
[2:28:01] That's telling me something.
[2:28:03] That's telling me.
[2:28:03] It's telling us that they're listening.
[2:28:08] We still have the terabytes that are flowing
[2:28:10] from the server.
[2:28:12] Well, here I have.
[2:28:13] In April, we had down in April.
[2:28:18] We had 743,000 unique listeners.
[2:28:24] That's April.
[2:28:25] That's down.
[2:28:26] That is down.
[2:28:27] It's down from about 800.
[2:28:30] 850, 860.
[2:28:31] We used to be up floating around in
[2:28:33] a bump.
[2:28:33] We're on our way down, baby.
[2:28:35] We're on our way out.
[2:28:36] We're old.
[2:28:37] We're yesterday's news.
[2:28:38] We're not enough TikToks.
[2:28:39] Wrap us in fish.
[2:28:41] I mean, that's nothing.
[2:28:42] We're just a whole bunch of old boomers.
[2:28:44] Got to play with boomers.
[2:28:45] Nobody cares.
[2:28:46] So maybe we play TikTok clips.
[2:28:48] Anyway, we do like doing this.
[2:28:52] By the way, I have to say the
[2:28:53] TikTok clips come in bunches.
[2:28:55] Like, you know, you don't see anything.
[2:28:58] Every once in a while, someone will send
[2:29:00] me one.
[2:29:00] Say, look at this one.
[2:29:01] And I catch it.
[2:29:02] And it's just hooked to a bunch of
[2:29:04] other ones.
[2:29:04] Bang, bang, bang, bang.
[2:29:05] They're all, you know, they're nailing it.
[2:29:07] It's called an algo, by the way.
[2:29:09] Yeah, but the algo doesn't trigger right all
[2:29:11] the time.
[2:29:12] Because if, for example, if I'm using Jay's
[2:29:14] phone.
[2:29:15] Yeah.
[2:29:16] Oh, no.
[2:29:16] The algo always drives me to the same.
[2:29:18] But it's a phone.
[2:29:19] It's an app.
[2:29:20] The app is doing all kinds of stuff
[2:29:22] under the hood that you don't see.
[2:29:23] That's why it knows.
[2:29:24] I'll tell you what I get a lot
[2:29:25] of.
[2:29:26] If it's if I'm left on my own,
[2:29:28] if the thing figures who I am and
[2:29:30] they want to give me stuff, I like
[2:29:31] lousy cooking videos.
[2:29:34] People who can't cook.
[2:29:35] Yeah, there's a lot of that.
[2:29:37] And they can.
[2:29:38] And it's like a joke to watch.
[2:29:40] I mean, you can't.
[2:29:41] It's like watching a train wreck.
[2:29:43] You just can't.
[2:29:44] Now, watch what is who would eat this?
[2:29:46] And that's one.
[2:29:49] That's one.
[2:29:49] The other ones are the phony baloney elaborate
[2:29:53] videos that show you that something you could
[2:29:55] do this, that and the other thing.
[2:29:57] And then magically something happens, which is bogus.
[2:30:00] My fate.
[2:30:01] The most recent one I had, there's a
[2:30:02] guy.
[2:30:03] OK, guy takes a he takes a wine
[2:30:05] glass and he wraps the bottom in foil
[2:30:06] and put some foil on the bottom of
[2:30:08] the stem.
[2:30:08] So it's all foil up.
[2:30:10] Then he puts lays it on a on
[2:30:11] a box and the bar and he's got
[2:30:14] the wine glass pointed against the wall and
[2:30:16] he's got all the foil around it.
[2:30:18] And then he takes his phone, turns on
[2:30:20] a video, puts the phone up against a
[2:30:22] foam block.
[2:30:23] So it's so it is being so it's
[2:30:26] up kind of up against the wine glass.
[2:30:28] And suddenly, magically, the image on the phone
[2:30:31] is projected onto the wall.
[2:30:33] Oh, no.
[2:30:36] Yeah, there's a lot.
[2:30:37] It's like dead serious.
[2:30:38] It's bullcrap.
[2:30:40] Well.
[2:30:41] You know, if you just gave up on
[2:30:44] this show and spent your time making tick
[2:30:46] tock videos of you cooking, you would do
[2:30:48] better.
[2:30:50] I guarantee you, you would do better.
[2:30:52] Thank you.
[2:30:52] Cotton gin.
[2:30:52] Eighteen hundred and four was the total.
[2:30:55] The script broke.
[2:30:56] That's all right.
[2:30:56] That's decent.
[2:30:58] But you're right.
[2:30:59] Twenty nine, twenty eight, twenty nine people above
[2:31:02] 50.
[2:31:03] And it's and a lot of the executive
[2:31:05] associate executive producers, they figured out, oh, I
[2:31:08] can I can put an ad in here.
[2:31:11] So I'm a little I'm a little down
[2:31:13] on twenty nine.
[2:31:14] But you got to remember the first cell
[2:31:16] is OK.
[2:31:16] It's twenty eight.
[2:31:17] So the bottom line is it's value for
[2:31:20] value.
[2:31:21] And if we don't feel that we get
[2:31:22] the value back, whatever that means to us,
[2:31:24] whatever it means to you, if you don't
[2:31:26] give us anything, then we will find I
[2:31:28] will find something else to do.
[2:31:29] And if I find something else to do,
[2:31:30] John, you have to find something else to
[2:31:32] do.
[2:31:32] You're not going to do the show on
[2:31:33] your own.
[2:31:35] It's not a threat.
[2:31:36] It's a promise of the value for value
[2:31:38] show that now I would watch that I
[2:31:42] would watch the John Tick-Tock show.
[2:31:44] I mean, Tina shows me the cooking videos
[2:31:46] all the time.
[2:31:48] This is one old bag.
[2:31:49] And she and I say that because she
[2:31:52] says about herself and she she's cooking.
[2:31:55] Her son is always there.
[2:31:56] And you were you apologize.
[2:31:58] You were using the term old bag.
[2:32:00] Yeah, I don't want to be mean.
[2:32:04] And and she's thrown like everything is cheese
[2:32:07] and I throw a lot of cheese.
[2:32:09] All these guys, they always top it with
[2:32:11] a bunch of cheese, cheese, cheese, melt the
[2:32:14] cheese on it.
[2:32:15] And she always tastes it.
[2:32:16] Oh, it's delicious.
[2:32:19] There's yes.
[2:32:20] People love that.
[2:32:21] People love cooking stuff.
[2:32:22] It's putting everybody out of business.
[2:32:25] It's Tick-Tock is a scourge.
[2:32:27] We should ban it.
[2:32:27] The Chinese are tracking you with it's no
[2:32:29] good.
[2:32:30] And we do want to thank our Dutch
[2:32:32] producer, who was the top executive producer today
[2:32:34] with five hundred and twenty six thirty six.
[2:32:37] And this is a longtime supporter, Marcel van
[2:32:40] Dongen from Schravenhagen in the Netherlands.
[2:32:43] ITM Gents, he says my first donation was
[2:32:46] a fifteen hundred dollar in double up episode
[2:32:50] fifteen oh one.
[2:32:51] I was announced but not knighted.
[2:32:53] Whoa.
[2:32:54] So I think that makes me a black
[2:32:56] Insta Baron douchebag.
[2:32:57] Well, you're not a douchebag.
[2:32:58] That's for sure.
[2:32:59] I hope I'm not too late for the
[2:33:01] title of Commodore.
[2:33:02] I think we made an exception for him.
[2:33:03] Did we not?
[2:33:04] Yeah, because of this complaint.
[2:33:06] Well, and he's a spot on.
[2:33:09] I'd oh, I hope I'm I says I
[2:33:13] hope I am too late.
[2:33:14] I think it means not too late for
[2:33:15] the title of Commodore.
[2:33:16] I'd rather have a ZX Spectrum title.
[2:33:19] My 60th birthday is coming up this Thursday,
[2:33:21] May 15th.
[2:33:22] So happy birthday.
[2:33:23] Can I have a deducing?
[2:33:26] You've been deduced.
[2:33:30] And for the roundtable, some drop shot and
[2:33:33] stroopwafels.
[2:33:35] Drop shot.
[2:33:36] Okay, you got it.
[2:33:37] And a title change from night of the
[2:33:39] I remember.
[2:33:42] That's he said.
[2:33:43] Try with two bleeds tonight or Baron of
[2:33:45] the Calangela hideout.
[2:33:48] We are planning on building a resort on
[2:33:50] the Calangela Island in.
[2:33:52] Is that pronounced that right?
[2:33:53] Calangela Island in Lake Victoria and thinking how
[2:33:58] to do the V for V model there.
[2:34:01] Don't.
[2:34:02] I advise against it now.
[2:34:03] It won't work.
[2:34:05] Douchebag show up and they'll just take advantage
[2:34:07] of you.
[2:34:08] Any tips?
[2:34:08] Yeah, don't.
[2:34:09] Thank you for your courage.
[2:34:10] Marcel van Dongen.
[2:34:11] Marcel, I don't know if we ordered.
[2:34:14] Let me make sure we get that order
[2:34:15] for you.
[2:34:15] 52636 was his donation.
[2:34:18] Yes, and I'm making sure that we have
[2:34:20] your drop shot and the stroopwafels at the
[2:34:22] roundtable.
[2:34:23] You bet, sir.
[2:34:23] Thank you very much, Marcel.
[2:34:25] Kevin Cuneo Cuneo.
[2:34:27] One of the two in San Carlos is
[2:34:30] over here with our anonymous cop, I guess.
[2:34:33] 350 93.
[2:34:34] I can John and Adam, please deduce me.
[2:34:37] You've been deduced.
[2:34:40] This donation of 33333, which is what it
[2:34:43] amounts to before the fees, which, by the
[2:34:45] way, are only 15 cents.
[2:34:47] If you use a check.
[2:34:48] That's right.
[2:34:48] May I please request baby making karma and
[2:34:51] Trump jobs karma.
[2:34:53] Cheers, Casey in San Mateo County.
[2:34:56] Jobs, jobs.
[2:35:00] You've got karma.
[2:35:07] There you go, Kevin.
[2:35:08] And remember, if it works, you got to
[2:35:11] name your kid after John and Adam.
[2:35:14] Kevin Cuneo, San Carlos, California.
[2:35:17] ITM Adam and John, please deduce.
[2:35:19] Well, there we go.
[2:35:21] You've been you're reading the same note.
[2:35:24] Oh, I'm sorry.
[2:35:25] Well, he got a double deducing.
[2:35:26] Sir Brian with an eye.
[2:35:27] That's the one I needed to do.
[2:35:29] Sir Brian with an eye.
[2:35:30] Who does not know Sir Brian with an
[2:35:32] eye?
[2:35:32] He's from Cedar Park, Texas.
[2:35:34] Three thirty three.
[2:35:35] And he says I shall now be gallivanting
[2:35:37] and meetups as a baronet.
[2:35:39] But I request no title changes.
[2:35:41] My current name already carries too much clout.
[2:35:43] And I don't want to confuse my fans.
[2:35:45] And if fans want to meet Sir Brian
[2:35:48] with an eye, he will, of course, be
[2:35:49] at the meetup, the Fredericksburg meetup coming up
[2:35:51] this Saturday.
[2:35:52] It's actually in Lukenbach at the 1776 bar.
[2:35:55] We will all be there.
[2:35:56] Three thirty three p.m. Thank you, Sir
[2:35:58] Brian with an eye.
[2:35:59] And we look forward to you and your
[2:36:01] fans.
[2:36:02] The town is named Lukenbach?
[2:36:04] Lukenbach, yes.
[2:36:05] Very famous town.
[2:36:06] Very fine.
[2:36:06] Very famous.
[2:36:07] Lukenbach.
[2:36:08] That whole area must just have been taken
[2:36:10] over by the Germans.
[2:36:11] Well, yes, it was founded by the Germans
[2:36:14] in, I want to say, 1840 something.
[2:36:20] And supposedly...
[2:36:21] Anybody ever ask why?
[2:36:23] Who were these Germans that went to Texas
[2:36:25] in 1840?
[2:36:27] These were very brave people who were looking
[2:36:29] for a better life than jolly old Deutschland.
[2:36:33] And they settled here and they apparently, the
[2:36:36] Fredericksburgians, made a deal with the Comanche Indians
[2:36:40] that was never broken.
[2:36:42] They treated them right.
[2:36:44] And there you go.
[2:36:45] That's the history of Fredericksburg.
[2:36:47] You might notice the name Fredericksburg.
[2:36:50] You know, name after...
[2:36:51] Oh, yeah, I know that.
[2:36:52] Frederick.
[2:36:53] I didn't know they had a bunch of
[2:36:55] ancillary towns named with German names all over
[2:36:58] it.
[2:36:58] We've got the Schlitterbahn over there an hour
[2:37:01] away.
[2:37:01] Everything is German here.
[2:37:03] And how this went over during World War
[2:37:05] II?
[2:37:06] So a friend of mine of ours, he
[2:37:09] does estate sales, which means you go into
[2:37:13] dead people's homes and you find all the
[2:37:15] gems and you buy them up and then
[2:37:17] you sell them.
[2:37:18] He says, here in Fredericksburg, there's a lot
[2:37:22] of paraphernalia and flags and stuff with swastikas
[2:37:28] on it at the estate sales.
[2:37:32] I don't know if he puts those up
[2:37:33] for sale right away, I find a lot
[2:37:36] of interesting stuff.
[2:37:38] I bet he does.
[2:37:39] Dave Sorensen probably finds interesting stuff.
[2:37:41] He's in Winthrop, Washington.
[2:37:42] It came in with $233.99. Forgive me,
[2:37:46] fathers, for I have sinned.
[2:37:49] It has been 301 days since my last
[2:37:51] donation.
[2:37:51] This row of ducks, I guess it was
[2:37:54] 22222 plus the fees.
[2:37:57] It was hardly absolved me, but I do
[2:37:59] appreciate you both so much and still haven't
[2:38:02] missed an episode since the first one I
[2:38:04] listened to.
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[2:39:01] Lastly, as I embark on what will hopefully
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[2:39:11] ITM.
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[2:40:27] Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
[2:40:30] Let's vote for jobs.
[2:40:35] Now we have a note from the Dale
[2:40:36] family.
[2:40:37] It's our last associate executive producer title and
[2:40:40] it is written, uh, it looks like, uh,
[2:40:43] written, this is, it's very 3D.
[2:40:47] Uh, it was written with pen and ink
[2:40:49] or one of those really fat, uh, nubs.
[2:40:51] Nub?
[2:40:52] Is it a nub?
[2:40:52] A nib?
[2:40:52] A nub?
[2:40:53] What do you call that?
[2:40:54] I don't know.
[2:40:55] Nib.
[2:40:56] Nib, yes.
[2:40:57] ITM John Adam, until now we have only
[2:40:59] made small token donations, but I'm afraid it
[2:41:01] wasn't enough to de-douche.
[2:41:03] So please de-douche our team post haste.
[2:41:07] You've been de-douched.
[2:41:09] Over the years, the Noah Jenner Show has
[2:41:11] filled an important modern events and critical thinking
[2:41:14] component in our home school.
[2:41:16] Ah, I love this.
[2:41:18] That's right.
[2:41:18] By the way, hello to all the kids
[2:41:20] from heritage school listening, all three of you.
[2:41:23] This is not a school though.
[2:41:24] It's a family education project and we wrote
[2:41:27] a book about it.
[2:41:28] We didn't go through a publishing house.
[2:41:32] This book did not have to be approved
[2:41:34] by a corporate editor.
[2:41:35] It told the story as best we could
[2:41:37] of our 19 year home education journey and
[2:41:40] the educational pedagogy we developed that led to
[2:41:44] our daughter getting a 1460 on the SAT.
[2:41:47] Whoa.
[2:41:49] Among other amazing accomplishments.
[2:41:51] Boost this value for value audio book on
[2:41:53] podcastindex.org now by searching.
[2:41:56] This is not a school.
[2:41:59] So you can get that a modern podcast
[2:42:00] to look for it in fountain or podcast
[2:42:03] guru.
[2:42:04] I like that.
[2:42:04] Thank you, John Adam, Albie, fountain and the
[2:42:08] Noah Jenner.
[2:42:08] I was thinking fountain.
[2:42:09] And the Noah Jenner Nation for helping us
[2:42:11] navigate the value for value model and giving
[2:42:13] us an opportunity to work outside the system
[2:42:16] to tell our story our way.
[2:42:18] Keep up the great work.
[2:42:20] Jingles.
[2:42:21] Resist we much.
[2:42:24] R2D2 karma.
[2:42:26] And ants.
[2:42:27] And oh, and a you might die.
[2:42:29] I'm sorry.
[2:42:29] I didn't get my you might die.
[2:42:32] Hold on.
[2:42:34] Might die.
[2:42:35] Yes, of course.
[2:42:36] We always have that handy.
[2:42:38] Okay.
[2:42:39] Oh, it's the Dale family.
[2:42:41] John, Jessica, Caitlin, Casey and Kayla.
[2:42:44] And John has been working on this for
[2:42:46] a long time in this project.
[2:42:47] I've helped him from time to time.
[2:42:49] He had questions.
[2:42:51] You know, they were doing the RSS feed
[2:42:52] by themselves, but they did what most people
[2:42:55] don't do is actually reach out to someone
[2:42:57] who knows how to do this stuff.
[2:42:59] So that was a double.
[2:43:00] I know what what they ask for advice
[2:43:04] and help.
[2:43:05] So I get a lot of emails from
[2:43:07] John.
[2:43:07] And so go boost those kids.
[2:43:09] They are pretty cool.
[2:43:10] But resist we much.
[2:43:13] We must and we will much about that.
[2:43:19] Be committed.
[2:43:19] You might die.
[2:43:21] All right, everybody.
[2:43:22] Stand by.
[2:43:23] Here comes a little bit of John's ant
[2:43:25] song.
[2:43:43] And that concludes our executive and associate executive
[2:43:47] producers for episode 1764.
[2:43:50] It still is the best podcast in the
[2:43:52] universe.
[2:43:52] And I love getting notes like that.
[2:43:54] That really does make my day.
[2:43:55] And when you say that, that it helped
[2:43:57] in your homeschooling project.
[2:43:59] Not a homeschool, but your schooling project at
[2:44:02] home.
[2:44:02] That gives me hope.
[2:44:04] Hope for humanity.
[2:44:05] Hope for America.
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[2:44:18] I'm an executive producer.
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[2:44:20] Oh, yeah.
[2:44:20] What up with the no agenda show?
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[2:44:42] for episode 1764.
[2:44:44] Our formula is this.
[2:44:47] We go out.
[2:44:48] We hit people in the mouth.
[2:45:05] Before we continue on our merry way, I
[2:45:07] do want to play this Dave Smith.
[2:45:10] OK, get closer to the microphone, though, so
[2:45:12] we can all hear you.
[2:45:13] I'll try to.
[2:45:14] OK.
[2:45:15] If there's any closer, I'd be behind it.
[2:45:16] Yeah, well, that way it might work.
[2:45:18] So he was on Tucker.
[2:45:21] Talked bitching and moaning about Douglas Murray and
[2:45:25] they went on Murray.
[2:45:27] They went on and on.
[2:45:28] But a couple of things came out of
[2:45:30] that had nothing to do with that.
[2:45:31] One was the the comment by Tucker that
[2:45:35] it's possible that they're going to because there's
[2:45:37] the way Smith saw it.
[2:45:39] And I think Tucker, to some extent, they
[2:45:41] saw the future as podcasting.
[2:45:46] No kidding.
[2:45:47] Wait, wait.
[2:45:48] Did they say that that Adam Curry had
[2:45:51] something to do with that?
[2:45:53] They didn't mention your name, of course.
[2:45:54] No.
[2:45:55] Why would they?
[2:45:56] No.
[2:45:56] But the point is, is that they talked
[2:45:58] about how media has when a new guy
[2:46:01] comes along and exploits the media presidential candidate,
[2:46:04] for example, like Roosevelt exploited radio before anybody
[2:46:08] else did.
[2:46:09] Kennedy did television, did the fire fireside chat.
[2:46:12] Kennedy did television.
[2:46:14] Trump did social media.
[2:46:15] And then he got on the podcasting thing,
[2:46:17] did the three hour podcast.
[2:46:18] They talked about that.
[2:46:19] That's right.
[2:46:19] And Tucker said, oh, I think they're going
[2:46:22] to crack down.
[2:46:23] And I said what I think, which I
[2:46:28] said to myself, what I think is I
[2:46:30] still think that someday down the road to
[2:46:32] be licensing or something like that, because they
[2:46:34] can't let this thing go crazy.
[2:46:36] Well, we have the only but the most
[2:46:38] thing I thought mostly about you and podcasting
[2:46:41] 2.0, which means they can't crack down.
[2:46:43] Correct.
[2:46:44] So so to give you kudos, that's, you
[2:46:48] know, minor compared to the one I thought
[2:46:50] when I got this clip where they brought
[2:46:53] up the fact that Smith was, you know,
[2:46:55] they were maybe giving him a gig on
[2:46:58] Fox as a contributor.
[2:47:00] He did mention the amount of money they
[2:47:01] get paid.
[2:47:02] This is rando contributors on Fox make a
[2:47:04] hundred K a year.
[2:47:05] Whoa, that's not bad.
[2:47:07] No.
[2:47:08] And so they just show up and do
[2:47:11] a comment, you know, there's a slow.
[2:47:13] It's all the same as usual suspects.
[2:47:15] But they brought this little ditty up, which
[2:47:18] is something you've been asserting since day one
[2:47:20] about Fox.
[2:47:21] And I let it play.
[2:47:23] Greg Gutfeld and Tom Shalhoub, who was hosting
[2:47:26] Red Eye at the time, they started using
[2:47:28] me on their Fox News shows.
[2:47:29] And so it was like the first time
[2:47:30] in my career I'd like started getting on
[2:47:32] TV.
[2:47:32] And I remember a few people at Fox
[2:47:35] had told me that they were like, hey,
[2:47:37] there's like some people in management are like
[2:47:40] interested in you like they're they're taking, you
[2:47:43] know, some interest in you.
[2:47:45] And then it was kind of explains me
[2:47:46] not like ever directly, but it was like,
[2:47:48] you know, you're you're a little out there.
[2:47:50] For Fox News.
[2:47:51] And I remember at the time I was
[2:47:54] broke.
[2:47:55] I mean, dead broke.
[2:47:57] Only on just to put a finer point
[2:47:59] in that.
[2:47:59] What do they mean?
[2:47:59] Not in your personal life, your personal.
[2:48:01] Oh, no, no, no.
[2:48:02] More buttoned down than most people who are
[2:48:04] at the time.
[2:48:04] It wasn't.
[2:48:04] This is before I was married and had
[2:48:05] kids and stuff.
[2:48:06] But that's what they don't care.
[2:48:08] I found out pretty quickly by just doing
[2:48:11] shows at Fox News and then going to
[2:48:13] the bar afterward with some of the people
[2:48:14] there.
[2:48:15] You're like, oh, conservatism, Inc.
[2:48:17] Is not exactly what you thought.
[2:48:18] They're actually pretty liberal to the bar hang
[2:48:21] after the show, I would say.
[2:48:23] But vindicated once again, vindicated.
[2:48:28] Yes, of course.
[2:48:29] They're a bunch of Democrats running Fox News.
[2:48:31] We know that.
[2:48:32] Yeah.
[2:48:33] Yeah.
[2:48:33] But it is confirmed with that clip.
[2:48:35] And of course, Tucker said, yeah, yeah, they're
[2:48:38] a bunch of what you get.
[2:48:40] Go to the bar and you'll find out
[2:48:41] what they're really thinking.
[2:48:42] Well, I since you brought up podcasting, I
[2:48:45] have a question for you.
[2:48:46] This is a industry wide question.
[2:48:49] It is it is rampant throughout the PIC,
[2:48:53] the podcast industrial complex, which is basically people
[2:48:56] who do advertising.
[2:48:58] By the way, we could switch to advertising
[2:49:00] and do pretty well.
[2:49:01] I'm just telling you, even with our, you
[2:49:03] know, because we have a million downloads a
[2:49:05] month.
[2:49:05] That's a thousand CPMs. That's not bad.
[2:49:11] We could do OK.
[2:49:12] I'm just saying.
[2:49:13] Yeah, we don't want to do that, people.
[2:49:15] No, of course I don't want to do
[2:49:16] that.
[2:49:17] I'd rather give up.
[2:49:18] I'd rather rage quit.
[2:49:19] Would you be cool?
[2:49:21] Adam Curry rage quits.
[2:49:22] Anyway, Adam Curry rage quits.
[2:49:25] So because aging co-partner in the lurch,
[2:49:30] we have a picture of you in a
[2:49:33] rocking chair like he left me.
[2:49:37] He stranded me.
[2:49:39] I got nothing to do.
[2:49:40] No one visits me nowhere to go.
[2:49:42] Anyway, this is a good question for you.
[2:49:45] Because of the nature of how podcast advertising
[2:49:48] works, which I will say right off the
[2:49:49] bat is a scam because it is.
[2:49:52] It's based upon downloads and you can buy
[2:49:56] downloads.
[2:49:57] You can create bots that do downloads.
[2:49:59] Yeah.
[2:50:00] You know, most of the hosting companies, they
[2:50:01] all adhere to the IAB standards and they're
[2:50:05] they've been verified, which cost them $50,000
[2:50:09] or some crazy amount because, you know, in
[2:50:12] order to be verified, which means they came,
[2:50:14] we checked your logs.
[2:50:15] There's no fake downloads here.
[2:50:17] Whatever.
[2:50:18] Of course, when Apple decided they weren't going
[2:50:20] to have past episodes download automatically, everything went
[2:50:24] down 20% and people had to pay
[2:50:26] millions of dollars and make goods.
[2:50:27] We'll just leave that by the side.
[2:50:29] Downloads, not a scam, people.
[2:50:30] Okay.
[2:50:32] But the nature of the measurement is iffy
[2:50:36] at best.
[2:50:37] So what happened is and so podcasting is
[2:50:40] under attack, not podcasting 2.0, but podcasting
[2:50:43] itself is under attack because YouTube in particular
[2:50:47] came in and said, oh, no, we're the
[2:50:50] number one podcasting platform in the universe.
[2:50:54] Have you heard this?
[2:50:55] Have you seen the numbers?
[2:50:56] Have you seen the press releases?
[2:50:57] They barrage the market.
[2:50:59] I'm about to find out.
[2:51:00] Well, they barrage the market.
[2:51:03] We have the most podcast.
[2:51:05] Now, of course, they're not a podcast platform
[2:51:07] because, yes, you can give them your RSS
[2:51:11] feed, but they just use it to slurp
[2:51:13] in your videos and that's it.
[2:51:16] Or even your podcast.
[2:51:17] You can't change your feed or take something
[2:51:20] out.
[2:51:21] You know, no, it's ingested.
[2:51:22] It's done.
[2:51:23] And you can mark your YouTube channel as
[2:51:25] a podcast.
[2:51:27] Now, advertisers love this because, oh, I can
[2:51:30] advertise on podcasts and I can get real
[2:51:34] numbers.
[2:51:35] Of course, YouTube has very detailed statistics and
[2:51:39] they can say, well, you got a million
[2:51:40] plays.
[2:51:41] What is a play?
[2:51:42] Well, it's 60 seconds.
[2:51:44] It's not even it's like 20 seconds of
[2:51:47] someone watching.
[2:51:47] But OK, that's fine.
[2:51:48] That's a view or that's a play.
[2:51:51] So the advertising industrial complex for podcasting started
[2:51:55] to call videos on YouTube podcasts.
[2:52:00] Do you see the problem here?
[2:52:04] Well, the problem is every the whole thing
[2:52:07] is a scam.
[2:52:08] Right.
[2:52:09] But so when you don't have to me,
[2:52:12] you have an RSS feed.
[2:52:13] That's a podcast.
[2:52:14] You host it at a hosting company or
[2:52:17] we happen to have void zero.
[2:52:19] We hosted ourselves.
[2:52:20] We're in control.
[2:52:22] YouTube can't you can even upload audio with
[2:52:26] a picture on it or whatever.
[2:52:28] But that's not a podcast.
[2:52:29] A podcast is independent.
[2:52:31] It's just it's decentralized.
[2:52:33] It's distributed.
[2:52:34] No government, no Silicon Valley company can take
[2:52:37] you down even if Apple decides, which they've
[2:52:40] done in the past.
[2:52:41] They don't want your podcast on the on
[2:52:43] the Apple podcast apps.
[2:52:44] They do it all the time.
[2:52:46] Spotify deletes episodes all the time.
[2:52:50] That can't happen.
[2:52:51] And that to me is a podcast.
[2:52:53] You have your RSS feed and it's an
[2:52:55] independent thing.
[2:52:57] Do you do you have an opinion on
[2:52:59] this?
[2:53:00] Can you tell me what is a podcast?
[2:53:02] If someone said what's a podcast, how does
[2:53:06] John C.
[2:53:06] Dvorak define that?
[2:53:08] I would say a podcast is an independently
[2:53:10] produced audio product that might have a video
[2:53:16] component, but it's basically an audio product that's
[2:53:18] distributed through RSS to various mechanisms.
[2:53:23] And it can be anything from A to
[2:53:25] Z in terms of how it's structured or
[2:53:27] how it exists or what it's about.
[2:53:30] Thank you.
[2:53:33] I'm with you on that.
[2:53:35] Let's listen to Bill O'Reilly's definition of
[2:53:38] what a podcast is.
[2:53:40] I drives me crazy.
[2:53:42] People go, oh, I watch your podcast on
[2:53:43] a podcast.
[2:53:45] Look, if you guy has tattoos and dirty
[2:53:47] sneakers, it's a podcast.
[2:53:49] If he's dressed as dapper as I dress,
[2:53:53] it's a broadcast.
[2:53:55] There you go.
[2:53:57] If you have dirty, if you have dirty
[2:53:59] sneakers and tattoos, then it's a podcast.
[2:54:02] If you're dressed like Bill O'Reilly, it's
[2:54:04] a broadcast.
[2:54:08] He says this on his podcast.
[2:54:10] No, it's he refuses.
[2:54:12] He's moving to netcast next, I hear.
[2:54:15] Yeah, I'm surprised he doesn't do netcast, which
[2:54:17] was another denial.
[2:54:21] All right.
[2:54:22] Hey, the saga continues.
[2:54:24] So that was a shaggy dog story.
[2:54:26] It was a shaggy dog story.
[2:54:27] It was indeed.
[2:54:28] But I'm glad that you have a better
[2:54:30] definition of what a podcast is than Bill
[2:54:32] O'Reilly.
[2:54:33] Well, anybody would.
[2:54:34] Anybody would, yes.
[2:54:36] So the scam continues.
[2:54:37] They continue to scam the American public and
[2:54:41] everyone's in on it.
[2:54:43] Oh, man, it's falling apart.
[2:54:46] It's dangerous to fly.
[2:54:47] Don't go to New Jersey.
[2:54:48] Happening today, the FAA will continue discussions with
[2:54:51] six major airlines about the ongoing delays at
[2:54:54] Newark Liberty International Airport.
[2:54:55] The agency wants to reduce the number of
[2:54:57] flights at the airport in North Jersey.
[2:54:59] Meanwhile, we're learning new information about the two
[2:55:02] radar outages in the last two and a
[2:55:04] half weeks at a Philadelphia facility that manages
[2:55:06] flights for Newark.
[2:55:08] During that time, air traffic control could not
[2:55:10] see or talk with planes.
[2:55:12] The FAA explained on Capitol Hill yesterday that
[2:55:14] the primary and backup lines both failed.
[2:55:17] The agency says it is now working to
[2:55:19] add a third line.
[2:55:22] Again, our air traffic controllers who are in
[2:55:25] this grand Gitmo nation all say that happens
[2:55:29] all the time.
[2:55:31] And adding another one of these lines to
[2:55:34] communicate with the radios is not going to
[2:55:35] help.
[2:55:36] We just need a whole different system.
[2:55:37] But they're really going to go out.
[2:55:38] It's going to be billions and it will
[2:55:40] take forever to implement.
[2:55:42] And this is just like the drone story
[2:55:44] or just like any other story that hypes
[2:55:47] the media and scares everybody.
[2:55:48] Oh, they can't see us on the radar.
[2:55:50] We're all going to die.
[2:55:51] Hasn't happened yet.
[2:55:53] And as predicted, the blame goes to the
[2:55:56] previous administration, specifically Pete Buttigieg.
[2:55:59] So I was all set before we had
[2:56:02] the rigged election to give out a brand
[2:56:04] new gorgeous system to one company that was
[2:56:07] going to do it all thing.
[2:56:08] One of the best companies in the world
[2:56:10] that you know very well.
[2:56:10] You know, there are three or four of
[2:56:12] them that do it.
[2:56:13] And when they took over, Buttigieg has no
[2:56:17] clue.
[2:56:17] You know, he drives to work on his
[2:56:18] bicycle with his with his in all fairness
[2:56:21] with his husband on the back, which is
[2:56:22] a nice loving relationship.
[2:56:25] But he didn't have a clue.
[2:56:27] This guy didn't have a clue.
[2:56:29] As predicted, blame it on Buttigieg.
[2:56:31] I'm glad you got that clip because I
[2:56:33] saw that clip.
[2:56:35] It's old.
[2:56:35] It's great.
[2:56:36] It's great.
[2:56:37] But it's so funny.
[2:56:38] This is his bicycle with his husband.
[2:56:41] It's hilarious.
[2:56:42] It's hilarious.
[2:56:44] He never stops.
[2:56:46] He doesn't.
[2:56:47] Back to the kind of the medical industry.
[2:56:52] Another huge controversy.
[2:56:54] This is the controversy that we've been tracking
[2:56:56] with Casey Means.
[2:56:58] You know, we can't have her as Surgeon
[2:56:59] General.
[2:57:00] The meaningless post.
[2:57:02] But OK.
[2:57:02] Oh, no, we can't have her because she's
[2:57:05] a shill for big pharma with her brother.
[2:57:07] And it's no good.
[2:57:08] And NPR investigated.
[2:57:09] President Trump has a new pick for U
[2:57:12] .S. Surgeon General.
[2:57:13] He's tapped wellness influencer Dr. Casey Means.
[2:57:16] That's in place of his original.
[2:57:19] We need to be wellness influencers.
[2:57:20] Maybe that's a gig for us.
[2:57:22] What do you think?
[2:57:22] Well, I mean, you're living a long time.
[2:57:25] We just say, well, this is how we
[2:57:27] live.
[2:57:27] This is how we've stayed alive so long.
[2:57:29] Don't you think that's a good gig?
[2:57:30] Wellness influencer?
[2:57:32] Yeah, and wine reviewer.
[2:57:33] Choice.
[2:57:34] Former Fox News contributor Dr. Jeanette Neshwat.
[2:57:38] NPR's Will Stone is here with the details.
[2:57:40] Hi, Will.
[2:57:41] Hey there.
[2:57:42] Hey there.
[2:57:42] Why did Trump drop his first pick for
[2:57:45] Surgeon General?
[2:57:46] So no official statement from Trump or the
[2:57:48] White House on that.
[2:57:50] But it seems there may have been a
[2:57:51] few issues at play here.
[2:57:53] So first, Neshwat had come under scrutiny recently
[2:57:56] for misrepresenting her medical credentials, including where she
[2:58:00] went to medical school.
[2:58:01] This was revealed by an independent reporter, Anthony
[2:58:03] Clark, and has been matched by other outlets,
[2:58:06] though NPR has not independently confirmed the reporting.
[2:58:09] At the same time, Neshwat was also facing
[2:58:11] some strong opposition from those on the right.
[2:58:14] And in Secretary Robert F.
[2:58:16] Kennedy Jr.'s Make America Healthy Again or Maha
[2:58:19] movement, one reason was her support for COVID
[2:58:22] policies like masking and vaccines.
[2:58:25] So whatever the rationale, Trump took to social
[2:58:27] media this week and announced he tapped Dr.
[2:58:30] Casey Means instead, saying she has, quote, impeccable
[2:58:34] Maha credentials.
[2:58:36] Well, we're about to find out about those.
[2:58:38] By the way, the three stooges were far
[2:58:41] ahead of their time with Maha.
[2:58:42] Maha.
[2:58:45] Yeah, we continue.
[2:58:46] Well, tell us more about Casey Means.
[2:58:48] Who is she?
[2:58:50] Yeah, she's a wellness influencer, author, and entrepreneur.
[2:58:53] She has a company that sells glucose monitoring
[2:58:56] devices to consumers.
[2:58:58] Her background is in medicine.
[2:59:00] She went to Stanford Medical School and went
[2:59:02] on to surgical residency, but she dropped out
[2:59:04] pretty far along in the program.
[2:59:06] Her book is kind of a self-help
[2:59:08] diet type of book.
[2:59:09] It really catapulted her into the online wellness
[2:59:12] space.
[2:59:13] She's been on big podcasts.
[2:59:15] She appeared at a highly publicized congressional roundtable
[2:59:18] on nutrition last year that featured Secretary Kennedy
[2:59:21] and other big names in the Maha world.
[2:59:24] But her resume is definitely a problem for
[2:59:26] many in medicine and public health.
[2:59:28] She did have a practice in Oregon, but
[2:59:30] again, never completed her residency, and she doesn't
[2:59:33] have an active medical license right now.
[2:59:36] I called up Dr. Richard Carmona to get
[2:59:38] his take on this.
[2:59:39] Carmona was the surgeon general under George W.
[2:59:41] Bush.
[2:59:42] Every previous surgeon general, when you look, they've
[2:59:45] got the license.
[2:59:46] They've got the residency.
[2:59:47] They have had at least some leadership ability
[2:59:50] that's scalable, and we don't see any of
[2:59:52] that here.
[2:59:52] I think that our nation deserves better.
[2:59:56] I think this is so great.
[2:59:58] Can you name three former surgeon generals?
[3:00:03] I can name Coop.
[3:00:04] That's one.
[3:00:06] The bearded guy.
[3:00:06] I can add this last guy.
[3:00:09] The weird Indian character.
[3:00:11] You can't name him.
[3:00:12] You can't name him.
[3:00:13] Navish Shreem Shreem.
[3:00:15] Navish Navidat.
[3:00:18] No, you can't, because they're not.
[3:00:20] They're not just not that important.
[3:00:22] Sorry to say.
[3:00:25] And Coop said, don't smoke.
[3:00:27] And it didn't stop me.
[3:00:29] How are her supporters responding to this?
[3:00:33] Well, Secretary Kennedy is doubling down on his
[3:00:35] support.
[3:00:35] He's claiming Dr. Means will be the greatest
[3:00:38] surgeon general in American history.
[3:00:40] It's also worth noting her brother, Callie Means,
[3:00:43] is a prominent advisor
[3:00:47] to
[3:00:57] Kennedy.
[3:00:58] A lot of her messaging aligns with the
[3:01:00] secretary.
[3:01:01] She rails against the health care industry, big
[3:01:03] food and big pharma.
[3:01:04] Talks a lot about nutrition and lifestyle.
[3:01:07] Here's what Kennedy said on Fox News just
[3:01:10] the other day.
[3:01:11] Casey Means, we felt, was the best person
[3:01:14] to really bring the vision of Maha to
[3:01:17] the American public.
[3:01:18] She has a unique capacity to articulate it.
[3:01:22] Now, Casey Means has made statements casting doubt
[3:01:25] on the safety of certain vaccines and the
[3:01:27] vaccine schedule.
[3:01:28] She's also endorsed things like raw milk, similar
[3:01:30] to Kennedy.
[3:01:31] All of this is concerning to experts in
[3:01:34] public health.
[3:01:35] But some in the Kennedy coalition are not
[3:01:38] happy with the pick.
[3:01:39] For example, Kennedy's former running mate, Nicole Shanahan,
[3:01:42] has criticized the choice heavily, as have others.
[3:01:45] And some of the pushback has to do
[3:01:47] with her vaccine stance, that she has not
[3:01:49] come out strongly enough against vaccines, especially the
[3:01:53] COVID shots.
[3:01:54] So this choice is revealing, I'd say, some
[3:01:57] fractures in the Maha coalition.
[3:01:59] And that, plus concerns about her lack of
[3:02:02] experience, could derail her nomination.
[3:02:05] We'll see.
[3:02:06] That's NPR's Will Stone.
[3:02:07] Thank you so much for talking with us.
[3:02:09] Thank you.
[3:02:10] Glad that NPR finally got the story.
[3:02:13] Yes.
[3:02:13] Yes, there's a lot of problem because she
[3:02:15] has not come out strongly enough against the
[3:02:18] COVID shot.
[3:02:20] And this is the criticism.
[3:02:21] And of course, I think Kelly, the last
[3:02:23] show we played, Kelly.
[3:02:27] That's right.
[3:02:27] Megyn Kelly's clip where she, I think, you
[3:02:31] know, does a reasonable job of defending the
[3:02:33] woman and says that you can't come out
[3:02:35] as a big anti-COVID shot person and
[3:02:38] expect to get.
[3:02:39] No.
[3:02:40] Confirmed.
[3:02:41] But because the half of Congress is bought
[3:02:43] and paid for by the pharma companies, and
[3:02:45] they don't want to, they could, as far
[3:02:48] as they're concerned, fax is the way to
[3:02:50] go.
[3:02:50] Get vaccinated for everything.
[3:02:52] Get 86 when you're a little baby.
[3:02:54] But this has been going on for a
[3:02:56] long time.
[3:02:56] Before she was even in play for Surgeon
[3:02:59] General, she and her brother had been accused
[3:03:01] of being shills coming out of nowhere.
[3:03:03] All of a sudden, they're on all the
[3:03:05] big podcasts.
[3:03:07] I don't think you're anything until you've come
[3:03:09] on the No Agenda Show.
[3:03:10] Oh, wait, we don't have any guests.
[3:03:13] And they would not denounce the COVID vaccine.
[3:03:17] And that is the problem.
[3:03:18] And Maha is going uh-uh to her.
[3:03:23] So it'll be interesting to see how this
[3:03:25] confirmation goes.
[3:03:27] In the meantime, this was very peculiar this
[3:03:30] morning that I saw on Fox News when
[3:03:32] it comes to vaccinations.
[3:03:34] And they brought out Tucker Carlson's old doctor
[3:03:37] pal.
[3:03:37] Remember that guy?
[3:03:38] The old dude?
[3:03:40] Whenever Tucker was on Fox, yeah, he had
[3:03:43] this one doctor.
[3:03:44] And it was the same guy over and
[3:03:46] over.
[3:03:46] We always made fun of him.
[3:03:47] Usual suspects.
[3:03:48] That's what they do.
[3:03:48] Usual suspects.
[3:03:49] And here's the news.
[3:03:50] HHS Secretary R.F.K. Jr. $500 million
[3:03:54] from COVID-19 projects with the goal of
[3:03:57] a universal vaccine to protect against multiple strains
[3:04:00] of a virus at once.
[3:04:01] Fox News Senior Medical Analyst Dr. Mark Siegel
[3:04:04] is here to tell us all about this.
[3:04:05] This would be getting one shot for the
[3:04:08] flu that could maybe last 10 years.
[3:04:10] How long have we heard this story?
[3:04:12] One shot.
[3:04:13] Only one.
[3:04:15] One and done.
[3:04:15] It's good to go for the flu.
[3:04:17] Never get another one for the rest of
[3:04:18] your life.
[3:04:19] I'm surprised we haven't got clips on this
[3:04:21] from 10 years ago.
[3:04:23] We probably do.
[3:04:24] I think it's going to start with the
[3:04:25] flu.
[3:04:25] And if we get there with the flu,
[3:04:27] maybe we can broaden it to more shots.
[3:04:29] The whole idea is that you get a
[3:04:30] different flu shot every year.
[3:04:32] Right.
[3:04:32] Or we did that with COVID.
[3:04:34] So it's because we look at the virus
[3:04:36] that enters the cell.
[3:04:37] Only that protein.
[3:04:38] Just that protein that gets it into the
[3:04:40] cell.
[3:04:40] And it causes a lot of problems and
[3:04:42] a lot of changes.
[3:04:43] And you have to change the shot all
[3:04:44] the time.
[3:04:45] And it doesn't always work with flu.
[3:04:46] So now, President Trump and RFK are bringing
[3:04:49] into place Jeffrey Taubenberger, who's the number one
[3:04:53] flu researcher in the world, in my opinion.
[3:04:55] Very excited about this guy, Taubenberger.
[3:04:58] He's now the head of the National Institute
[3:05:00] of Allergy Infectious Diseases, which is the job
[3:05:02] that Fauci had.
[3:05:03] And you know who this guy is?
[3:05:05] He went into the tundra in Alaska and
[3:05:08] discovered the Spanish flu.
[3:05:09] That's how amazing he is.
[3:05:11] Amazing.
[3:05:11] And he's been working on flu vaccines for
[3:05:13] a really long time.
[3:05:14] You already nailed it, which is you try
[3:05:16] to get into the shot different proteins.
[3:05:18] So you get one response that will work
[3:05:21] for all flu.
[3:05:22] We got to get there.
[3:05:23] We got to get great.
[3:05:24] Then you don't have to get a shot
[3:05:25] every year.
[3:05:25] Absolutely.
[3:05:26] Absolutely.
[3:05:26] Great.
[3:05:27] Great program.
[3:05:27] Great program.
[3:05:30] I'm not for this.
[3:05:32] I don't think this is a good idea.
[3:05:34] Well, the vaccine companies aren't for it either.
[3:05:36] Obviously, that's why it's never going to happen.
[3:05:38] That's true.
[3:05:39] That's not good.
[3:05:39] Why would you want that when you can
[3:05:41] give a shot every year, every year?
[3:05:43] Could be dog crap in this shot.
[3:05:45] Who cares?
[3:05:47] You're not liable for anything.
[3:05:49] So you just manufacture could be distilled water.
[3:05:52] Shot, shot, shot, shot.
[3:05:54] Do you think this is free here at
[3:05:56] the pharmacy?
[3:05:57] Do you think this is Robert Kennedy Jr.?
[3:06:00] You think he's just like, go over here,
[3:06:03] work on that for a while?
[3:06:04] Is that what this is?
[3:06:05] Could be.
[3:06:06] Yeah, possible.
[3:06:07] All right.
[3:06:07] Last thing I have is about fluoride.
[3:06:10] Because, of course, and this is, I think,
[3:06:12] a very good thing.
[3:06:14] Bobby has said, we've got to stop this.
[3:06:17] States everywhere are stopping fluoridating their water.
[3:06:19] Should have happened decades ago.
[3:06:21] But the pharma industry is not taking this
[3:06:23] lightly because, oh, no, it's bad.
[3:06:27] It's really bad.
[3:06:28] And what?
[3:06:28] Fluoride tablets?
[3:06:29] No, it's bad.
[3:06:30] In today's health watch, the FDA is getting
[3:06:32] ready to take prescription fluoride drops and tablets
[3:06:34] for kids off the market.
[3:06:36] So this comes as Health Secretary Robert F.
[3:06:39] Kennedy fights to remove fluoride from our drinking
[3:06:41] water.
[3:06:41] Let's bring in CBS News medical contributor.
[3:06:44] That's Dr. Selene Gounder.
[3:06:45] Yes.
[3:06:46] Editor-at-large for public health at KFF
[3:06:47] Health News has sorted it out for us.
[3:06:50] Good to see you, Dr. Selene.
[3:06:51] KFF Health News, by the way, as far
[3:06:54] as I know, a bought-and-paid-for
[3:06:55] publication.
[3:06:57] It's like one of these, oh, we do
[3:06:58] health news.
[3:06:59] OK.
[3:07:00] No, KFF is the Kaiser Family Foundation.
[3:07:03] Yes, exactly.
[3:07:04] Yeah, they're just a Kaiser shill.
[3:07:06] Yes, exactly.
[3:07:07] They sorted it out for us.
[3:07:08] But they sorted it out for us.
[3:07:10] Good to see you, Dr. Selene.
[3:07:11] So how big a deal is this move
[3:07:13] from the FDA?
[3:07:14] So FDA Commissioner Marty Macri announced yesterday that
[3:07:18] they are considering or planning to phase out
[3:07:21] fluoride supplements such as tablets and drops for
[3:07:24] kids.
[3:07:24] And what we know is that fluoride supplements
[3:07:27] really do still make a difference despite fluoride
[3:07:30] in the water.
[3:07:30] In some places, you don't have fluoride in
[3:07:32] the water.
[3:07:32] And many kids don't actually brush their teeth
[3:07:35] regularly with fluoridated toothpaste.
[3:07:37] They don't all make it to the dentist
[3:07:39] on a regular basis.
[3:07:40] And so we know that fluoride in general
[3:07:43] can reduce the rate of cavities by about
[3:07:46] 25 percent, despite having other layers of protection.
[3:07:50] So, OK, so what she's saying here is
[3:07:53] for kids who don't brush their teeth and
[3:07:57] don't get regular checkups, I can understand that,
[3:08:00] but they don't brush, you don't brush your
[3:08:01] teeth.
[3:08:02] Fluoride can help.
[3:08:03] No, you can't have gunk in your teeth
[3:08:06] all day.
[3:08:07] I know a lot about teeth.
[3:08:08] You cannot have gunk in your teeth and
[3:08:10] think that a fluoride tablet is going to
[3:08:12] solve that.
[3:08:13] But she, Selene Gounder, is on the sales
[3:08:16] path.
[3:08:16] Is there any evidence of kids getting access
[3:08:18] to these drops and overusing them or any
[3:08:21] kind of negative effects?
[3:08:22] Oh, we need access to it.
[3:08:23] Well, it's interesting that you ask that, Tony.
[3:08:24] So the attorney general of Texas.
[3:08:27] Interesting you ask that because it was in
[3:08:29] your prompter.
[3:08:30] The script was there.
[3:08:31] It's interesting that you ask that, Tony.
[3:08:32] So the attorney general of Texas is suing
[3:08:36] Colgate and Procter and Gamble over flavored kid
[3:08:40] friendly toothpaste.
[3:08:41] We do know that, for example, with tobacco
[3:08:44] or vapes, flavoring can encourage more use.
[3:08:48] And the argument here is it could encourage
[3:08:50] overuse of toothpaste if they're flavored for kids.
[3:08:53] That'll be the day kids are eating the
[3:08:55] toothpaste.
[3:08:56] Give me a break.
[3:08:59] Mommy, can I brush my teeth another 10
[3:09:01] times today?
[3:09:02] Because the toothpaste is so tasty.
[3:09:04] All right.
[3:09:05] So fluoride is banned from water and fluoride
[3:09:07] supplements.
[3:09:08] What are parents to do?
[3:09:09] Well, at least for now, you still have
[3:09:11] the toothpaste, the mouthwashes, the dental applied dentist
[3:09:15] applied varnishes.
[3:09:16] But as I mentioned, in Texas, they're actually
[3:09:18] going after some of the toothpastes.
[3:09:21] So, you know, the big concern here is
[3:09:25] that you have 70 million Americans who do
[3:09:27] not have dental insurance.
[3:09:28] We know that kids, low income kids have
[3:09:31] three times the risk of dental cavities that
[3:09:34] go untreated to other kids.
[3:09:36] And so we know that certain populations are
[3:09:38] really going to go.
[3:09:40] What did she say?
[3:09:41] They go untreated to other kids make it
[3:09:43] sound like it's infectious somehow.
[3:09:44] I have dental insurance.
[3:09:46] We know that kids, low income kids have
[3:09:49] three times the risk of dental cavities that
[3:09:52] go untreated to other kids.
[3:09:53] And so we know that certain populations are
[3:09:56] really going to see a surge in cavities.
[3:09:59] Surge that was always raised.
[3:10:00] Fluoride.
[3:10:01] Good, good, good.
[3:10:02] Now this stuff is so confusing to all
[3:10:03] about good.
[3:10:04] Yes.
[3:10:04] OK, got it.
[3:10:05] Got it.
[3:10:06] Thank you.
[3:10:06] Thank you.
[3:10:06] All right.
[3:10:07] Good, good, good.
[3:10:08] Good, good, good.
[3:10:09] It is that they mentioned throughout these reports
[3:10:11] that the dentist can put a coating of
[3:10:13] fluoride on your teeth, which is the way
[3:10:14] it's supposed to be done.
[3:10:15] Direct contact with the enamel.
[3:10:17] She said the fluoride tray.
[3:10:19] Yes, she did mention that briefly.
[3:10:23] But the issue is the true issue is
[3:10:26] we need to have better dental care.
[3:10:28] People need more education on dental care.
[3:10:30] It's very important.
[3:10:30] Take it from a person who has a
[3:10:32] small car in his mouth.
[3:10:35] And it's a set us back quite a
[3:10:37] bit.
[3:10:37] And it was so that I would be
[3:10:38] able to still speak and not have dentures.
[3:10:43] So and that's because it's not because I
[3:10:46] didn't brush with fluoride.
[3:10:47] Believe me.
[3:10:52] All right.
[3:10:52] Well, that went nowhere.
[3:10:53] Now, what do you mean?
[3:10:54] Nowhere.
[3:10:55] It's important information.
[3:10:58] Man, you're supposed to say man, man.
[3:11:01] All right.
[3:11:02] Take us out.
[3:11:02] You get one more shot.
[3:11:04] I got one shot.
[3:11:05] One shot.
[3:11:06] You got one shot.
[3:11:07] I got a screw.
[3:11:08] Well, let's do the Trump in the judiciary
[3:11:10] because that that's going on as we speak.
[3:11:13] This is a big deal going on in
[3:11:15] the Supreme Court right now about all the
[3:11:17] crap that's being thrown at Trump by these
[3:11:19] just rando judges.
[3:11:21] So let's play these two clips.
[3:11:23] A legal fight over one of America's oldest
[3:11:25] national security laws is heating up.
[3:11:27] The Trump administration just won a federal judge
[3:11:29] in Pennsylvania has ruled that President Trump can
[3:11:32] invoke the Alien Enemies Act, an 18th century
[3:11:34] wartime statute to deport migrants suspected of gang
[3:11:38] ties.
[3:11:39] The ruling from U.S. District Judge Stephanie
[3:11:41] Haines marks the first judicial support for Trump's
[3:11:44] use of the law, putting her at odds
[3:11:46] with three other federal judges in Texas, Colorado
[3:11:48] and New York.
[3:11:50] Trump invoked the law in March targeting members
[3:11:52] of Tren de Aragua, or TDA, a Venezuelan
[3:11:55] gang he labeled a foreign terrorist group.
[3:11:58] Clip was supposed to go.
[3:11:59] This has been misclipped.
[3:12:01] I'm playing your clip.
[3:12:03] All right.
[3:12:04] Well, pull it.
[3:12:05] Pull it.
[3:12:06] I pulled it.
[3:12:07] Pull it.
[3:12:07] Oh, no.
[3:12:07] There goes building seven.
[3:12:11] I'll give you one up.
[3:12:12] One more shot.
[3:12:13] Not on this.
[3:12:14] All right.
[3:12:14] This time we're going to go back to
[3:12:15] the public complaining about something.
[3:12:17] This is a complaint of mine, too, which
[3:12:20] has been about EULAs and licensing and all
[3:12:23] the whole background that started with WordStar, where
[3:12:26] you never really bought their software product.
[3:12:29] This stems back in the early days of
[3:12:31] mainframes.
[3:12:32] You never bought the software product.
[3:12:33] You bought a license to use it.
[3:12:35] Now Nintendo's making poor kids buying a game.
[3:12:39] Nintendo's making poor kids buying a game.
[3:12:42] Now you don't own the game anymore.
[3:12:44] You get the license to use it.
[3:12:45] Nintendo are updating our user agreement for the
[3:12:48] Switch 2.
[3:12:49] If you make any unauthorized modifications to your
[3:12:52] Switch 2, we will remotely deactivate your console
[3:12:55] so that you cannot play any more games.
[3:12:57] Whoa.
[3:12:58] I understand deactivating online play and the store
[3:13:01] with mods installed, but deactivating the console itself?
[3:13:05] People will own the Nintendo Switch 2.
[3:13:08] They should have rights to do what they
[3:13:10] want with it.
[3:13:10] Actually, they will not own the Switch 2.
[3:13:13] They will own the license to play the
[3:13:15] Switch 2, and that license can be revoked
[3:13:17] at any moment.
[3:13:18] What?
[3:13:19] You sound like the big brother of gaming.
[3:13:21] In addition to this, physical games will no
[3:13:23] longer be installed on the game cartridge.
[3:13:26] The game cartridge will only contain a key
[3:13:28] to install the game over the internet.
[3:13:30] Then what's the point of physical?
[3:13:32] And why are you charging another $10 for
[3:13:34] it?
[3:13:34] People will be paying $80 for a key?
[3:13:37] Yes, exactly.
[3:13:37] A key to access the license to the
[3:13:40] game.
[3:13:40] So we won't own anything.
[3:13:43] This is insane.
[3:13:44] You know what else is insane?
[3:13:45] Selling out Switch 2 pre-orders within an
[3:13:47] hour.
[3:13:50] Do you know my car?
[3:13:52] I have a console with like, you know,
[3:13:54] a screen.
[3:13:55] It popped up a EULA the other day.
[3:13:58] Oh no.
[3:14:00] Oh yeah.
[3:14:00] One of these days, it's like the insurance
[3:14:02] company taking over everything.
[3:14:04] They took over the medicine business.
[3:14:06] They took over, you know, they're trying to
[3:14:08] take over car repair business.
[3:14:10] They're trying to take over home appliance business.
[3:14:12] The insurances create these middlemen.
[3:14:14] The other big scam going on, it's never
[3:14:17] going to end, is the idea of licensing
[3:14:19] the car.
[3:14:20] In other words, you're not going to buy
[3:14:21] a car, but you don't really own the
[3:14:23] car.
[3:14:24] You bought a license, $20,000, $30,000,
[3:14:27] $40,000, $50,000 for a license to
[3:14:29] use the car.
[3:14:30] That's where it's headed.
[3:14:32] That's what's coming.
[3:14:33] And if you don't agree to the license,
[3:14:35] they turn your car off.
[3:14:37] You know who's going to do that first?
[3:14:39] Elon.
[3:14:40] I guarantee you Tesla will be the first.
[3:14:42] They already do it, basically.
[3:14:46] Yeah.
[3:14:48] This is, you don't, you won't own anything
[3:14:50] and be happy.
[3:14:50] This is what it stems from.
[3:14:52] I'm going to show my support by donating
[3:14:54] to No Agenda.
[3:14:55] Imagine all the people who could do that.
[3:14:57] Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
[3:15:00] Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning.
[3:15:06] At New Rules starting Sunday, we're going to
[3:15:08] make shorter shows.
[3:15:10] We're crazy.
[3:15:11] What are we doing?
[3:15:12] We were way over today.
[3:15:14] It's my fault.
[3:15:15] Oh, not over again.
[3:15:17] Well, let's start with getting these people out
[3:15:19] of the way here.
[3:15:20] Let's move them out.
[3:15:20] All right, move them out.
[3:15:21] Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, our buddy
[3:15:24] there in the old space area.
[3:15:26] An alien Roswell, $100.
[3:15:29] Boom, right at the top, Kevin McLaughlin.
[3:15:32] Shows you how dire it is.
[3:15:34] Conquer North Carolina.
[3:15:35] He should be like 10 deep.
[3:15:38] Yes, he should be.
[3:15:39] 8008, he's the Arstuk Aluna lover of America,
[3:15:41] lover of boobs.
[3:15:42] We have another 8008 from Al, I don't
[3:15:47] know, Gonsulin in Missouri City, Texas.
[3:15:52] Let me see.
[3:15:52] Missouri City.
[3:15:55] 8008.
[3:15:56] Yeah, Gonsulin.
[3:15:57] He's a gigawatt coffee lover.
[3:15:58] Oh, aren't we all?
[3:16:00] The Last Fast Eddie in Alameda, 8008.
[3:16:05] He's got some 8008s in.
[3:16:09] Urine Snellders.
[3:16:10] Urine.
[3:16:11] Urine.
[3:16:11] Urine.
[3:16:12] Urine.
[3:16:16] Urine Snellders in Ennis, Texas, 75.
[3:16:21] He's got a call out to his friend,
[3:16:22] Veronica.
[3:16:26] Dame Toni.
[3:16:27] Oh, no, Dame Toni Helps.
[3:16:29] Haven't heard from her for a while.
[3:16:31] She's been here the last couple of times
[3:16:33] with the On Gigi donation.
[3:16:35] She's in Oklahoma City.
[3:16:37] And she wants the full On Gigi.
[3:16:40] Here it comes.
[3:16:43] I'll just have an apple in my room.
[3:16:46] Adam Herbert, South Windsor, Connecticut, 6161, which should
[3:16:50] be an...
[3:16:51] Give her another On Gigi.
[3:16:52] That's On Gigi, 6161.
[3:16:55] I'll just have an apple in my room.
[3:16:58] Christopher Dechter, 5678.
[3:17:01] Jonas Malpas in Belgium.
[3:17:06] He's in Belgium.
[3:17:07] 5272.
[3:17:12] Adam Hurst in Alexandria, New South Wales, 5272.
[3:17:18] Sur Economic Hitman in Tombill, Texas, 5001.
[3:17:21] And boom, we're already at the 50s.
[3:17:22] And there's not that many of them, but
[3:17:24] there's a few.
[3:17:25] Name and location, starting with Gary Ma in
[3:17:28] Woodland Hills, California.
[3:17:29] Dame Patricia Worthington, our friend in Miami, Florida.
[3:17:32] She hasn't given up.
[3:17:34] Brandon Savoie, another one in Port Orchard, Washington.
[3:17:37] What's his title?
[3:17:38] Get a title.
[3:17:43] Kennel Petalia.
[3:17:44] What do you think?
[3:17:45] Petalia in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
[3:17:47] Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina.
[3:17:49] Diane Schwannenbeck in Johnsburg, Illinois.
[3:17:53] Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut.
[3:17:56] Easy Landscapes.
[3:17:57] Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
[3:18:01] Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
[3:18:04] And last on a very, very, very, very
[3:18:06] short list, Robert Dreykosen in Oshkosh, Bogosh, Wisconsin.
[3:18:15] And we thank these donors, $50 and over
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[3:18:24] We'd like to see more people doing that,
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[3:18:26] Even at these levels, it's great.
[3:18:28] We appreciate it all.
[3:18:29] Of the amount of people who are...
[3:18:31] What is that?
[3:18:32] What is...
[3:18:32] What am I hearing?
[3:18:33] What is going on?
[3:18:36] That's weird.
[3:18:37] It's like some kind of earthquake happening.
[3:18:39] So maybe you got an earthquake.
[3:18:40] No, maybe not.
[3:18:42] Anyway, the point being, we appreciate anybody who
[3:18:45] supports the show.
[3:18:46] And we'd love to see more people step
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[3:18:48] And of course, thanks everyone under $50 for
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[3:18:51] We will not mention these, but we see
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[3:19:10] noagendadonations.com Short list, but Marcel van Dongen
[3:19:18] turned 60 years old today.
[3:19:20] We say happy birthday to him.
[3:19:21] And Eric wishes Lauren Palo Oda a very
[3:19:24] happy one.
[3:19:25] She is also celebrating today.
[3:19:26] And she turns 30.
[3:19:28] Happy birthday from everybody here.
[3:19:29] The best podcast day in the universe.
[3:19:42] Two title upgrades.
[3:19:43] One for Sir Marcel van Dongen.
[3:19:45] He is the knight of the Iver...
[3:19:47] And he now becomes Sir Marcel van Dongen.
[3:19:50] Baron of Calag...
[3:19:52] Calangala Hideout.
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