# 1909 "Immune Amnesia"

An episode of [No Agenda Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/269169796), 4 Oct 2026, 2 h 53 min.

Audio: https://op3.dev/e/mp3s.nashownotes.com/NA-1909-2026-10-04-Final.mp3

No Agenda Episode 1909 - "Immune Amnesia" Immune Amnesia Executive Producers: Matt from North Carolina Count Stephen Rick Olson Mark Futrell Sir Ahab Sir Codes a Lot Brock Reinhold Aaron Weisgerber Mark Alcocer Baroness Dame Kathy & Baron Sir Greg Simunich Geoff Zaba Sir MARCO D Mag-nan-i-mous Lee North Sir Tigger Max Eric Reinhard Tyler Darrington Robert Shepherd Mark in Bent Mountain VA Associate Executive Producers: Linda Lupatkin — Imagemakers Ink, Duchess of Jobs Sir Scottie K — Bot Commander (BotCom.ai) Knights and Dames: Tyler Darrington > Sir Tyler, Keeper of the Bees Matt > Sir Elexim of Naganashi (na - ga -na - she) Brenda in Bent Mountain VA -> Dame Drinkwine JCD Challenge Coin: Matt from North Carolina Count Stephen Rick Olson Mark Futrell Sir Ahab Sir Codes a Lot Brock Reinhold Aaron Weisgerber Mark Alcocer Baroness Dame Kathy & Baron Sir Greg Simunich Geoff Zaba Sir MARCO D Mag-nan-i-mous Lee North Sir Tigger Max Eric Reinhard Tyler Darrington Robert Shepherd Mark in Bent Mountain VA End of Show Mixes: Jus Baker (Strategic ambiguity) Jus Baker (We are the value) Mellow D (Excellent Time with Dew) MellowD (JCDs Office Clutter) Sir Joho (Rob Dew wwe intro 7) Art By: Tyler Brown Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman No Agenda Peerage RSS Podcast Feed Last Modified 10/04/2026 16:34:24 by Freedom Controller

## Chapters

- 0:00 Sunday with Rob Dew
- 11:25 Hitting the AI Drum: Reverse Engineering, Bowie and the Robot
- 26:57 Flydubai: The Pilot and the Plumber
- 38:01 Al-Qaeda on His LinkedIn
- 48:00 Pneumonic Plague in Irkutsk
- 52:00 Immune Amnesia: Measles on NPR Short Wave
- 1:03:06 Kyiv: The Bridges Are the Target
- 1:11:16 France in Flames
- 1:32:08 OpenAI's Rogue Agents Hit Canada
- 1:43:06 Superintelligence Sounds Like an Alien Species
- 1:50:12 Meta Muse Does Your Shopping
- 1:55:02 1994: What Is the Internet, Anyway?
- 1:59:52 PSSD: A New Sickness
- 2:03:55 That's Bananas: Watergate as Lawfare
- 2:06:45 The Global Decline of Human Body Temperature
- 2:09:49 Cornell and the Fraternity Party
- 2:21:09 A Gem from Episode 13: Jason Calacanis
- 2:24:01 Dew's Time to Shine and Value for Value
- 2:30:56 Executive Producers and the JCD Challenge Coin
- 2:44:51 Knights, a Dame and the Meetups
- 2:48:52 End of Show Mixes

## Transcript

[0:00] We are creative people. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, October 4th,
[0:03] 2026. This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination episode
[0:08] 1909. This is no agenda. That's right. It's Sunday, everybody,
[0:14] coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill
[0:16] Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. Another multi-hour media deconstruction lined
[0:21] up for you. Oh, man, we're looking for an October
[0:24] surprise now, aren't we? Coming up within just 90 seconds,
[0:28] he's back once again, the one and only, Mr. Rob
[0:31] Deucer-Ducifer. Ladies. Gentlemen! controls of Missing the arrival of a
[1:01] mere man. whose reputation arrived five minutes before he did.
[1:11] The customer! Hi, everybody. Yeah, you got to hit us
[2:05] with the lisp. Hello, I'm here. Oh, my goodness. Was
[2:11] that Melody? No, that was Sir Joho. He came in
[2:14] all of a sudden. Yeah, it's like the Suno V6
[2:17] or whatever, and it's... It's interesting. It's interesting. You know,
[2:21] the AI is going to take over, definitely. But I'm
[2:24] doing my best to try and hold them off as
[2:26] much as possible. Oh, please. Just wave the flag already,
[2:31] man. Use it. Use it or lose it. I'm telling
[2:33] you. Yeah, everyone's all on this. Well, you know, there's
[2:36] some interesting stuff about AI and music and what it
[2:40] could do. Yeah, because you're in the studio, right? You're
[2:43] recording stuff now? I'm recording stuff. We've been recording for
[2:46] the past month. Did some more recording yesterday. We were
[2:50] at this thing in New Orleans, and... One of the
[2:53] there's a bunch of lawyers doing presentations. So what are
[2:56] you doing? What are you doing with a bunch of
[2:59] lawyers in New Orleans? That's bad. Well, that's how presidents
[3:03] get killed. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Absolutely right. But what happened
[3:06] was they're saying, well, we don't know. There's no precedent
[3:10] set yet. Yeah. So say you make an AI song
[3:13] and you're making money off of it. At some point,
[3:15] these companies can go, hey, you owe us money. You
[3:18] made it with our system. We own your song, actually.
[3:21] We're just going to take it. So they said that
[3:22] hasn't happened yet, but that could happen. So that's something
[3:25] to look out for if you are making money with
[3:27] this music. Hmm. But that could be an end around
[3:30] for because lawyers love to find money in certain places.
[3:34] If anyone comes for your stuff, man, you just call
[3:37] the suits and boots and you get constitutional lawyer Rob
[3:40] on the case. You'll be OK. Well, I'm not worried
[3:43] about my stuff. Definitely not worried about my. But there
[3:46] are people that I know that do this a lot.
[3:49] And. We had a guy with us who all of
[3:51] his songs are AI that he's made and he sings
[3:53] to with them. He does the singing, but all the
[3:56] instrumentation is AI. And he didn't seem he didn't seem
[3:59] worried about it. Well, from what I understand, the Suno
[4:03] deal is, you know, all these labels came after them
[4:06] and they said, OK, well, we'll make it like this.
[4:09] Because apparently they have technology. They can detect exactly where
[4:14] certain pieces of sound came from. I don't know if
[4:16] it's composition, but there's got to be some recorded sound,
[4:20] obviously. And so they have some way of calculating which
[4:26] of the publishing companies owns what. And so Suno had
[4:32] to cut this deal with him so that you cannot
[4:34] you can no longer download songs. You can only download
[4:38] them once or twice if you pay an extra amount
[4:40] per per month. But what I'm seeing. You know, because
[4:44] a while back and I forget what the reason was,
[4:46] but John and I were talking like, oh, I'll put
[4:48] no agenda back on Spotify. And so put it back
[4:50] on Spotify and every other episode gets taken down. And
[4:54] it's always like music violation, music violation. And they have,
[4:58] you know, I'm sure they're their robots are just looking
[5:01] for any music and just better be safe and sorry.
[5:04] Yeah. But it's always for end of show mixes. Right.
[5:08] Right. Yeah, exactly. But today it won't be. Oh. If
[5:12] you follow my protocol, I have two end of show
[5:15] mixes that I recorded myself. Oh, boy. I didn't even
[5:19] see them in your – oh, there they are. It
[5:20] says the EOS. Yeah. I see it. And it had
[5:23] to do with a trip I took. I took a
[5:25] one-night little trip. with a friend uh a friend of
[5:28] mine he's in the band and uh he was leading
[5:30] a drum circle and he's like hey you want to
[5:32] come and he's like i have an extra ticket and
[5:35] i said sure let's do it is a drum circle
[5:37] where you smoke weed and sit in a circle and
[5:39] then hit the drums is that basically a drum circle
[5:42] That is one version of a drum circle. There wasn't
[5:45] a lot of weed being passed around at this. That's
[5:49] a bogus drum circle. That one's no good. You should
[5:52] get your money back. Well, you know, I didn't have
[5:54] to pay anything, but it was called Medicine for the
[5:57] People, and it's sort of like a gathering. It's a
[6:00] very hippie gathering, and I'm thinking there's going to be
[6:02] weed everywhere. And these people like to mix weed with
[6:05] tobacco. That's how I used to smoke it, man. That's
[6:09] it. Right. It's a European thing. Yep. Because – When
[6:13] I was in Switzerland, that's how they smoked it. Yeah,
[6:16] it's called a spliff. That's exactly right. And so he
[6:19] was – this guy actually started the drum circle for
[6:22] this group. He kind of led it for years, and
[6:24] now it's huge. So he's still there. And – I
[6:28] brought my little, I have a gourd drum, which is
[6:30] basically a hollowed out gourd. And so it's very lightweight.
[6:33] Most of these drums that people carry around. You have
[6:35] to have a wagon and pull these things because they're
[6:38] so damn big and heavy. But I have my little
[6:41] gourd drum, and I'm just... But I saw... But on
[6:46] my way to the drum circle, there's this tent, and
[6:48] I hear this beautiful flute music playing. I'm like, oh,
[6:50] what's this? I go in there, and everybody's laying down
[6:52] meditating. And this dude's playing flute, and he's got sound...
[6:56] bulls his girlfriend or wife i guess his wife is
[6:59] this is basically a doing the sound bowls satanic circle
[7:02] is what i'm hearing no i don't you know what
[7:05] i'd never heard people talk about god so much oh
[7:08] really okay i'm serious i'm serious it was It was
[7:11] a lot of praise the Lord, praise Jesus. I never
[7:14] – and I was surprised at how many times I'd
[7:16] heard it. I actually started taking a mental note. By
[7:19] like the fourth time, I'm like, this is getting interesting.
[7:22] Wow. But I think the hippie kind of culture is
[7:25] a little more – they're a little more God-based. than
[7:29] like your typical raving culture. If you were to go
[7:31] to like a raving ceremony. You mean Burning Man, yes.
[7:34] Yeah, if you were to go to Burning Man, there's
[7:36] not a lot of God talk there. I think they
[7:37] kick out the God people if they start talking too
[7:39] much. No God on the playa. Exactly. Exactly. Only dust
[7:45] and whatever drugs you can find. Mud and drugs. And
[7:49] mud, yeah. Well, speaking of mud, We got ACL this
[7:52] weekend, and it's a mud bath. Oh, my Lord. Tina
[7:54] said to me, said, you could not pay me to
[7:57] go there. We've been, I think we went together twice,
[8:01] I think. And even then, it was like, you know,
[8:05] when you see teenage girls just fall flat on their
[8:08] face, be a blackout drunk. It's like, I'm too old
[8:12] for that, man. I don't understand how they could get
[8:15] that drunk because you've got to wait 45 minutes to
[8:17] get a beer. You've got to wait 45 minutes to
[8:19] get to the bathrooms. I don't know how you even
[8:21] watch music at these things. It's such an elitist thing,
[8:24] like the Golden Pass. You pay $1,200 and then you
[8:28] get the special. It's basically to get access to a
[8:31] bar. And then you get some seats up front, I
[8:34] think. Austin is elite. Oh, big time. Let's face it.
[8:39] That's why I live in Driftwood. Yeah, exactly. You got
[8:42] to get out. Get out of Austin. So I'm looking
[8:45] at your clip list, and, man, I can just tell
[8:48] you put together a no agenda list of clips. I
[8:51] mean, I am loving what, of course, rules are. I
[8:55] don't listen to anything beforehand. But since you had such
[8:58] a grand entrance, you threw off your – Your dressing
[9:02] gown, you had the babes with you, a big WWD
[9:05] entrance. I will let you choose wherever you want to
[9:09] go first because I don't think there's a single thing
[9:11] that is not spot on the money that I'm seeing
[9:13] on your list. Well, here's the interesting thing. I saw
[9:16] the show art for the last show, and it had
[9:19] the plumber flying the plane. So I look at that,
[9:21] and I'm like, oh, they covered this already. And then
[9:25] I – Listen to the show with you and Horowitz,
[9:27] who I think did a great job as well. Horowitz,
[9:29] you know, especially with his long winded clips of nothing
[9:31] going on. That was great. Yeah. You know, the thing
[9:36] is, the thing with Andrew, he's like, how'd I do?
[9:39] How'd I do? You were great, man. It's like, you
[9:41] know, thank you. It's awesome. And then I see him
[9:43] on X and he's answering people and he's engaging. engaging
[9:47] like oh my lord yeah text me again well what's
[9:50] the verdict i said well as you'd expect a lot
[9:52] of people love you some hate you a lot of
[9:54] people hate you some love you it's like it's it's
[9:57] x man but it's gone to his head already gone
[10:00] to his head i mean i have First of all,
[10:02] this is not an audition. You know, it's like everyone's,
[10:05] well, that's the guy. Oh, no, he's the guy. That's
[10:08] the guy. This is the guy. That's the guy. Everyone's
[10:10] the guy. I like what this is, what's happening right
[10:15] now with the different co-hosts because, you know, I don't
[10:18] have the pressure of having to come up with clips.
[10:20] I don't know how you do it. But, like, just.
[10:23] thinking about it and going, oh, I've got to find
[10:24] these clips and do this, or that's a good clip,
[10:26] I'm going to send it to myself and get it
[10:27] later. And being able to hear everybody's perspective, and the
[10:31] way you timed it out with Cal Canis having his
[10:35] – Big symposium and you get him on right after
[10:37] that. Like you had it timed perfectly. That was Providence.
[10:40] I had no idea. I had no idea. I really
[10:42] didn't. I didn't know. I'm glad he did it. I
[10:45] mean, when you do something like that. And I'd sent
[10:47] him the invite from Rotterdam. So it popped up at
[10:51] 6 a.m. his time. So he didn't even see it.
[10:54] And I'm like, dude, you coming on the show? Like,
[10:56] oh, oh, oh, crap. Give me five minutes to freshen
[11:00] up. Let me let the dogs out. He was –
[11:05] he's definitely a country boy because he goes outside to
[11:08] – or was it – It was him or Dana.
[11:10] Like, let me go outside. I have to go use
[11:12] the bathroom. I'll be right back. That's Dana. That was
[11:14] Dana. Yeah. Getting all the perspectives from everybody and then
[11:19] having Horowitz come in and you guys were talking the
[11:22] financials and AI and what's going on because we really,
[11:25] you know, you've been hitting the AI drum. In the
[11:30] drum circle. You're the guy in there talking about AI
[11:32] the whole time while people are trying to drum. And
[11:35] it's – you really have been hitting it hard. But
[11:38] it's been – and I'm taking a step back because
[11:40] I'm like, uh, AI. I'm like, uh, there's guys in
[11:43] the office that love it. And I'm just like, whatever.
[11:45] To me, it's another flash in the pan trend. But
[11:47] I do see some things happening. Yeah. On our end,
[11:51] in our media operation over here. In your workflow. Yeah,
[11:56] where people are doing it. Not just to make fun
[11:59] videos, because that's great, and I love the funny videos.
[12:02] And I usually, I'm an idea guy. I'll throw out
[12:04] an idea about something, and these guys put it together,
[12:06] and I'm like, ha, ha, look what I did. Yeah.
[12:10] building pieces of software that we're going to use in
[12:12] production that I think and what you've already done. Yep.
[12:16] That's the, that's going to be the game changer because
[12:19] software makers make crappy software. I don't know why, but,
[12:22] But they'll make it with little guardrails in it that
[12:25] don't help your production flow. And you don't realize it
[12:28] until you get into that flow. And then you're like,
[12:30] wait a minute. Why can't we play this clip? Oh,
[12:31] it hasn't been turned into the right codec yet. So
[12:34] you're nailing it on this. This is the first thing
[12:38] I realized with the coding agents is – software. I
[12:42] told Horowitz, short Microsoft, man. It's like I don't use
[12:47] a spreadsheet. I don't use Excel. I don't even use
[12:49] LibreOffice anymore. I just made a donation spreadsheet reader that
[12:54] doesn't – snap cells and it pulls out the jingle
[12:58] requests and then you know i can click on it
[13:00] and the jingle loads up and that's what i needed
[13:03] and i think it's phenomenal for that so we're going
[13:06] to go with your death of software death of software
[13:09] now before you play it real quick um it's it's
[13:12] video game related and it's also also spot on yeah
[13:17] Right. It's very interesting. This is one guy talking to
[13:20] himself. It's the different perspectives. So when you hear two
[13:23] people talking, it's the same guy. You mean on TikTok
[13:26] or is this YouTube? I find everything on X at
[13:28] this point, but it probably was on TikTok. I probably
[13:31] cut out the TikTok ending though. But yeah, so it's
[13:34] in three parts and we could talk about each part.
[13:37] I kind of cut them up where there's a good
[13:39] spot to talk about things. They put me a little
[13:42] into Modern Warfare 2. Why are you giving me that
[13:47] look? Isn't that so cool? An AI did that. Oh
[13:49] my gosh, please tell me you're not one of those
[13:51] AI protesters. No, it's not that. What is it then?
[13:54] What is it then? An AI reverse engineered an entire
[13:57] video game. And? That's not new. No, it's entirely new.
[14:01] Reverse engineering is one of the most complex and time-consuming
[14:04] tasks in software development. Okay. Don't you get it? GPT
[14:07] and Claude have released models intelligent enough to perform tasks
[14:10] that were deemed so difficult, they were considered a form
[14:13] of security. What are you trying to get at? Listen,
[14:15] as much as you see a game in front of
[14:16] you, you know and love. This is about the security
[14:18] and copyright protection of every single piece of software ever
[14:21] developed in human history. We'll get with the times. Artists
[14:24] have been having to deal with this for years now.
[14:26] If anything, it's kind of like payback to the tech
[14:27] world. No, no, no. You're not understanding. I'm talking about
[14:30] every single product you use. Games, mobile apps, desktop software.
[14:35] They're going to be reverse engineered and understood faster than
[14:38] human beings can protect them. The entire world runs on
[14:41] the assumption that some information is computationally impractical to uncover.
[14:45] Your bank account, military communications, government intelligence, authentication systems, private
[14:50] messaging, understanding millions of lines of encrypted, undocumented code were
[14:54] supposed to be the security. The start is all fun
[14:57] and cute. Games are being reverse-engineered, but then payback.
[15:00] Before services become free. Yeah. That's right. You want Dropbox?
[15:05] Don't pay for Dropbox. Just make your own. Make it
[15:06] yourself. Yeah, make your own Dropbox. And what they're talking
[15:10] about is there's a game called Call of Duty Modern
[15:12] Warfare 2. Yeah. And some people hacked it apparently. And
[15:16] now you can play Halo, which is like one of
[15:18] the originals. you know, first person shoot them up games.
[15:21] Now you can bring in your halo characters into that.
[15:24] And there's other games that are doing this. But that's,
[15:28] you know, he's saying when I heard this clip, I'm
[15:30] like, this is what you and Horowitz were talking about,
[15:32] but not as dramatic with the background music. Well, and
[15:35] we don't talk to ourselves. There's a difference there. It's
[15:39] – one of the trolls, Tesla Coil, said, death of
[15:43] software, the rise of maker brands. I like that. Yeah,
[15:47] maker brands. But that could lead to some interesting things.
[15:52] Like what happens if you're – some guy doesn't like
[15:55] the power company, and he's like, you know what? I'm
[15:57] going to make sure that they're giving me the right
[15:59] rates, and then – They re-engineer the, the elect, can
[16:03] they re-engineer the electrical grid? Can't. Can people do that?
[16:06] Will that happen in the future? Are we two months
[16:08] away from that happening or two years away? Well, it
[16:10] is October. We're waiting for the surprise. So anything that
[16:14] AI can do to make Trump look bad would be
[16:17] this would be the next four weeks. This is the
[16:19] time to do it before the election. That's it. That's
[16:22] exactly it. All right. We'll go to two. Next will
[16:24] be old government infrastructure. Banks running on. 20-year-old software, telecom
[16:28] networks, satellites, systems that nobody would want to replace because
[16:31] it would cost them billions. Okay, you're starting to freak
[16:34] me out. Then trust disappears. We'll get to the point
[16:36] where markets close because they don't know which transactions are
[16:39] legitimate. Banks freeze transfers. Companies stop accepting digital payments. Governments
[16:45] isolate their networks. Supply chains lose their schedulings. Ports stop
[16:48] moving cargo. Hospitals disconnect their equipment from networks. Airlines ground
[16:53] all their flights. We are talking about the disappearance of
[16:57] all white collar jobs. Swipe a card and food appears
[17:03] Press the button and gasoline moves across the continent Click
[17:08] buy In ten companies Three banks, two warehouses A satellite
[17:13] and a truck driver Coordinated without you ever seeing it
[17:18] And it all goes away. Nobody knows whether it's Russia
[17:21] or China, some corporation, or a 16-year-old sitting in his
[17:25] bedroom. Or at his mom's basement. Well, we'll play your
[17:29] kicker, then I want to play a throwback clip. Okay.
[17:33] What this reminds me of. You want, you need to
[17:35] set this up or is this just, this is obvious?
[17:37] No, the kicker is just the end of it. But
[17:39] what's interesting also is this is, he appears to be
[17:42] a Gen Z talking about this. You know, you would
[17:45] think it would be more of a Luddite class like
[17:47] yourself. or Horowitz that would be doing this. Hold on,
[17:49] what do you mean Luddite? I'm part of the Luddite
[17:52] class. I'm one of those people that doesn't, I hate
[17:55] upgrading anything. I hate it. It's terrible. So I consider
[17:58] myself part of the Luddite class. Okay, here we go.
[18:03] I'm afraid we've opened Pandora's box. But humanity hasn't even
[18:07] recognized it yet because we've been too excited holding the
[18:12] lid. And now it's become the mark of the beast.
[18:17] the birthing pains of the rapture. The second coming of
[18:22] the nuclear bomb. but instead of fission. It's just text.
[18:30] Text. Did you see they also put Minecraft in Skyrim?
[18:35] That's good. It's just text. It's just text. Death by
[18:39] text. Sir Gene had an interesting question for me this
[18:42] morning. He sent me a link to, what is this
[18:46] thing called? The pseudo by new matter. And it's basically,
[18:52] you know, an iPhone, an iPod. And he says, and
[18:56] it's, you know, they sell it for $299. It has
[18:59] all your music downloaded or streaming. And his question is,
[19:02] are the alphas tired of smartphones? It might be. It
[19:06] might be. But I don't think we have any... Any
[19:11] idea what is coming, what is going to happen other
[19:14] than severe disruption. But I think severe disruption of companies
[19:18] that have essentially held us hostage for decades with their
[19:22] crappy software. Well, you know, they're trying when you make
[19:26] software and I've been involved in software projects and service
[19:29] projects, you try to make it work for everybody. And
[19:32] ultimately, it works for nobody. It doesn't really do the
[19:37] thing exactly the way you want to do it or
[19:39] you're hitting menus and going left and right. And you
[19:43] have to remember how the computer is not working for
[19:45] you. You're working the computer. And that is the thing
[19:48] that to me is so exciting, particularly with technology. Linux,
[19:53] I'm sorry, GNU, Linux, and Omachi, which, you know, was
[19:58] really built around the whole concept of your agents built
[20:02] in and you tell it what you need it to
[20:03] do. And it's going to build that for you right
[20:05] there on your computer. And in fact, I did, I
[20:08] made something the other day, which was very simple for
[20:12] me. You know what an MCP server is? No. I'm
[20:17] not even sure what it stands for. But it's a
[20:20] thing. It's a server that sits in front of a,
[20:23] for lack of a better term, a data source. And
[20:28] it exposes tools and ways that you're... agent, your bot,
[20:34] you know, I just keep calling it a robot, that
[20:36] your robot can interact with that data source. And so
[20:39] I happen to be co-owner of a large data source
[20:44] being the podcast index, podcastindex.org. Which is, you know, we
[20:48] don't charge for it. It's really for developers and app
[20:51] developers and to keep podcasting open and free so no
[20:54] one captures it and sees Spotify and Apple. I mean,
[20:58] Spotify dropped a billion dollars. They couldn't turn it into
[21:00] a walled garden. It just didn't work. Even when hiring
[21:02] Rogan, it just didn't work. Because podcasting is in a
[21:06] way like Bitcoin, just open, free and kind of in
[21:09] destroy RSS, I should say, is it flows, it flows
[21:12] and it was always meant to flow. So I created
[21:15] an MCP server, which allows your robot to really ask
[21:20] for any kind of information on the index. So, you
[21:25] know, and I've given some examples. I said, well, I
[21:29] want what you know, whenever a new episode of Rogan
[21:32] comes out, let me know. Show me who's on the
[21:35] show, what the topic is. And if it's an MMA
[21:37] show, don't even bother me. And so the robot is
[21:40] now tracking that. It's called podcast index robot dot com.
[21:46] And it's interesting. Maybe 15% of people are like, Curry,
[21:51] you're taking us into Armageddon. I hate you. You're peddling.
[21:54] You shill. You're peddling slap. But the rest are like,
[21:59] wow, I can actually find podcasts. This has always been
[22:04] the problem of podcasting is discovery. That's why. Because nobody
[22:08] can advertise. It's hard to advertise for a new podcast.
[22:10] Well, here's the crazy thing. So I was talking about
[22:13] this with Dave Jones, my partner, on the – we
[22:16] call it the board meeting podcasting 2.0. It's on Fridays.
[22:19] And actually, it would be great, Sir Bemrose, if you
[22:21] line it up for after today's show. It might be
[22:23] fun for people to listen to. And so we're chatting
[22:26] away, and then I'm just rolling this out. I hadn't
[22:29] told Dave what I was doing, and he's looking at
[22:32] it. He says, hmm, okay. And they say, well, let's,
[22:35] you know, because now basically the podcast index robot dot
[22:38] com does nothing. It just exposes a way for robots
[22:41] to access the data. And so we did a little
[22:44] experiment, you know, robot. Go get me the most recent
[22:48] episode of Ed Zitron's Better Offline. Now, I don't know
[22:51] who Ed Zitron is, but he's the guy that correctly
[22:54] is saying that all these companies, it's a big circular
[22:57] financing company. you know, bubble and it's going to blow
[23:01] up. I've heard that, the moving of funds. Yeah, probably
[23:04] not wrong. But he has six minutes of advertising at
[23:08] the beginning of the show, all dynamically inserted. And so
[23:11] I say, robot, go get the most recent episode of
[23:13] Ed Zitron and just cut off the ads, dude. Like,
[23:17] okay, here it is. I cut out, you know, better
[23:22] help, sleep well, Chevron. And they told me what it
[23:26] cut out. And I hit the play button and boom,
[23:28] it started right with this podcast. So this, and that's
[23:31] not how I'm marketing it, but that is just an
[23:34] example of the power that the people now have. And
[23:38] it's going to disrupt everything. So I 100% agree. It's
[23:43] definitely, especially the software industry, you're 100% right about this
[23:48] software industry. Well, but think about it. Armageddon that's going
[23:51] to happen. But not a lot of people are using
[23:52] it yet, but three years, it's going to be a
[23:54] whole different ballgame. Oh, it's going to be three months.
[23:57] I mean, think about it. Music is software. It's just
[24:01] software. There's no difference between a podcast, a music, or
[24:06] a sermon, or a YouTube video. It's all software. So
[24:10] that's how you got to look at this stuff. Now,
[24:13] luckily, these things aren't, you know, I don't know about
[24:15] Elon Musk and his robots. Yeah, sure. Whatever. I see
[24:18] a robot doing the dishes very slowly. That would be
[24:20] quite frustrating for my $50,000. But this reminds me of
[24:26] David Bowie's 1999 interview with Jeremy Paxman on the BBC.
[24:30] I don't think we've even seen the tip of the
[24:32] iceberg. I think the potential of what the Internet is
[24:37] going to do to society, both good and bad, is
[24:40] unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something
[24:46] exhilarating and terrifying. It's just a tool though, isn't it?
[24:52] No, it's not. No, it's an alien life form. What
[24:56] do you think, I mean, when you think then about...
[25:00] Is there life on Mars? Yes, it's just landed here.
[25:03] But it's simply a different delivery system there. You're arguing
[25:07] about something more profound. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the
[25:10] actual context and the state of content is going to
[25:13] be so different to anything that we can really envisage
[25:17] at the moment, where the interplay between the user and
[25:21] the provider will be so... in simpatico is going to
[25:24] crush our ideas of what mediums are all about. Boom!
[25:31] Did he say envisage? Is that the word he used?
[25:34] Did he say envisage? I don't know. Anything we can
[25:38] really envisage at the moment. Yeah, anything we can envisage.
[25:41] He's a Brit. Envisage. Envision, imagine, envisage, envisage, envisage. But
[25:48] he was right. He was a little early, but he
[25:50] was right. Man, I miss that guy. There's clips of
[25:54] Jim Morrison talking about sort of the same thing, but
[25:57] with music. He said, eventually you're just going to have
[26:00] a guy playing loops and tapes over and over again.
[26:03] And people say to me, well, there'll always be live
[26:06] music. I say, yeah, but let me burst your bubble.
[26:10] 99% of all live music, commercial live music, bigger than
[26:16] a bread box venue, and even such, is all using
[26:20] multi-tracks. Yeah. Everybody, and if you know what multi-tracks is...
[26:25] You know, it's essentially you're you're you're playing along to
[26:29] your own music and the engineer on the board can
[26:31] mix, you know, thing if if the bass guy couldn't
[26:34] show up and put the bass in. Oh, we don't
[26:37] have horns, but they sound good on the record. So
[26:40] we'll add the horns there. I mean, in excess was
[26:42] doing this in 1987. Yeah. Who was the best at
[26:46] it? Milli Vanilli. They were doing everything. That was the
[26:50] ultimate multi-tracks. And they won a Grammy. Come on, man.
[26:54] What's the problem? That's how you know it's all junk.
[26:58] So let's not stick on AI, but go to the
[27:00] fly of Dubai because I – As I said on
[27:03] the last episode with Horowitz, I said until we get
[27:07] the CVR and the CD, so the flight, the data
[27:10] recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, we really won't know.
[27:15] All data that we have is flawed. You know, every
[27:19] eyewitness has a different – version of the accounts you
[27:24] know it dipped a little then it did more but
[27:27] you know i'm not seeing Videos of overhead bins opened
[27:32] and people crushed against the back, which would happen with
[27:37] a 36 degree descent. Well, 6,000 feet per minute. You
[27:42] know, yeah, tail fin ripped off. That is indicative of
[27:45] some very of overspeeding. But still, even Boeing is probably
[27:50] scratching their heads if it really was exceeding VNE by
[27:53] 100 knots. Like, okay, well, man, we built a good
[27:56] plane. Yeah. Trump gave him a shout-out on – His
[28:01] true social saying they've made a great plane. Well, imagine.
[28:05] Imagine President Trump using that to tout American industry. Imagine.
[28:11] So what did you bring? Okay, so this – and
[28:14] this clip is kind of old, but this came out
[28:17] – when I say old, it came out, I think,
[28:19] Thursday, the day of the show. But I'm like, I
[28:22] need to bring this to the show because this is
[28:23] Aaron Burnett interviewing a couple pilots who are in a
[28:26] simulator. Oh, goodness. This is my favorite. The guy off
[28:30] to the left is the older captain, and then the
[28:33] guy on the right, I guess he's playing the part
[28:36] of the Indian pilot who got axed with the hatchet
[28:39] or whatever. The crash ax. And I've heard different things.
[28:41] Yeah. They were stabbing him. And I'll get to that
[28:44] in a second. But this is the first one where
[28:46] she she asked him and he kind of sets it
[28:48] up what they're going to do. I don't know. I'm
[28:50] sure people have seen this, but you never know if
[28:52] people haven't seen it. It was interesting to hear. So
[28:55] I wanted to bring it to share here. I think
[28:57] there's at least 10 of these flights a day, right?
[29:00] Back and forth and back and forth. Most people on
[29:01] that plane have probably been on that route many times.
[29:04] And you look down, and it's desert pretty much the
[29:06] whole way. So you're just kind of lulled there, staring
[29:09] into space, and then it drops more than 20,000 feet
[29:12] in 35 seconds, finally topping out at a speed we
[29:15] understand of 700 miles an hour plus. So... So can
[29:20] you just show us what that looks like? We certainly
[29:23] can. And Aaron, hello. Thanks for inviting us onto the
[29:26] show tonight and all your viewers, of course. Angelo is
[29:29] going to take us through exactly that procedure that happened
[29:33] to the flight and by flight. I will be trying
[29:36] to give everyone a little bit of information on what's
[29:40] happening on the primary flight display as we go along
[29:43] and if you can give us the external view of
[29:45] the aircraft when you're ready Angela thank you there we
[29:49] are with the flight of I that's the 800 model
[29:51] right there and right there is the overspeed warning and
[29:56] I'm gonna just get my hand in here if I
[29:58] can and start pointing a little bit on
[30:00] screened If you can see my hand on the left
[30:02] side of that screen right there, there's the barber pole
[30:05] indicating the overspeed. We're looking at nothing but ground on
[30:08] the prime reflect display on the additive care and the
[30:10] jet. If you can take a look in the center
[30:12] of your screen, that is approximately what we would have
[30:15] seen. We are now recovering at about 18,000, 17,000, 16,000
[30:20] feet, perhaps a little more of a dive than the
[30:22] air. of graphic today. Yeah, this is why we need
[30:26] the cockpit voice recorder. Did we hear the overspeed warning?
[30:30] We really just don't know anything. But I appreciate Aaron
[30:34] Burnett uh saying well you know you're just sitting there
[30:37] just you know playing trying to set it up trying
[30:39] to yeah if you're just sitting around looking at the
[30:41] desert you know yeah that's that's what we do pilots
[30:44] yeah we just sit around and look at the desert
[30:46] okay and and so i've heard lots of different stories
[30:49] um one one of which uh sir scott sent me
[30:52] i don't know if he sent this one to you
[30:54] but uh a guy Captain Steve or something. Of course.
[30:59] Captain Steve. Captain Steve is never wrong. Steve. He interviewed.
[31:04] Well, what's funny is at the end, Captain Steve starts
[31:06] talking about the helper and Mr. Rogers. He's like, there's
[31:08] helpers out there. Helpers helped. They pulled the bad guy
[31:12] out of the cockpit. Other helpers were deadhead pilots, and
[31:15] they showed up. And I'm just like, wow, he's really
[31:17] debasing it down to, like, you know, kindergarten level. This
[31:21] is insane. Which makes, you know, I'm looking at the
[31:23] whole thing going, what they're telling us, I don't think
[31:26] happened. No. Because you look at the videos, you look
[31:30] at the pictures. Yeah. There was one that I posted
[31:34] in it. There's a cup of water in the guy's
[31:37] drink holder. And, you know, people were like, well, it
[31:39] had a cover on it. I'm like, okay, do you
[31:41] think that cup of water is going to stay there
[31:43] when this thing does a 36-degree dip? And one guy
[31:47] is saying it also made it bank to the left
[31:49] as it was descending. There's another guy saying, well, it's
[31:54] going to stay there. He shut off the engines because
[31:56] the emergency lights were on, so – And you can
[31:58] see that from the video. And you know the plumber,
[32:02] he pulled up on the stick and he relit the
[32:05] engines, no doubt. And then there's the plumber. Yeah, did
[32:07] he know to flash the engines? I mean, how is
[32:09] this guy going to pull them out of a dive
[32:11] like that? You're like, okay, this is Pecos Bill and
[32:14] Paul Bunyan. This is a tall tale. Why, I don't
[32:17] know. But there was a... You know, there was the
[32:20] supposed attack that was thwarted at the Capitol. There was
[32:23] another one in Manchester. And, you know, these are all
[32:26] going after Jewish type organizations. So this is another in
[32:29] that line of things. Well, maybe they had an incident
[32:33] up in the air where the rudder came off and
[32:36] they're like, OK, let's. Let's figure out a way to
[32:38] make us the victim. That could be a whole other
[32:40] thing, too. Hey, the plane is falling apart. I got
[32:44] Boeing stock. Quick, hit me with the axe. Yeah. All
[32:47] right. So here's the – I think this is the
[32:49] part where the pilot says, hey, you know, I can't
[32:52] believe they're at this speed descending. So this is number
[32:55] two. I know there were some people, they said they
[32:57] were sort of standing by the bathroom, right? They would
[32:59] have fallen immediately. I mean, frankly, it's miraculous with something
[33:01] like that, that people didn't get more seriously injured or
[33:05] die. That's correct. I'm answering the stick shaker. It's the
[33:09] overspeed warning that's clicking away in the background, not the
[33:11] stick shaker. Stick shaker's at the other end of the
[33:13] spectrum where you're stalling the aircraft. That is still going.
[33:16] We are just coming into about 500 knots. So some
[33:20] of the numbers that we're seeing from the reporting initially
[33:24] are... they don't make sense to me because if you're
[33:27] saying that rapidly, your craft would have disagreed completely. So
[33:30] the numbers will change when we get the preliminary report.
[33:33] Oh, that's interesting. Because those, I mean, as you point
[33:36] out, those are only the numbers that we have right
[33:37] now. But interesting that you said that that could have
[33:39] caused it to break apart. Yeah. You know what other
[33:42] numbers were unbelievable? The twin tower speeds of those aircraft
[33:50] at an altitude that was too low for them even
[33:53] to fly that fast. I mean, so we have no
[33:56] data. I don't know why we don't have it yet.
[34:00] Well, listen, I've been told on X by several people
[34:03] that I'm an idiot and that the data is out
[34:05] there and I just I'm not looking at the data
[34:06] correctly. Oh, OK. That's what I've been told. I'm like,
[34:09] I don't believe this is how it happened. And I'm
[34:11] like. You don't see the data? It shows it right
[34:13] here. It was only 14,000 feet. The ADS-B, man. Yeah,
[34:18] we got the data. We got the data. Yeah. And
[34:20] the Captain Steve interview, the guy's like, as soon as
[34:23] we landed, I accessed the flight data, and I saw
[34:26] that we fell almost 20,000 feet. And he's like, I
[34:29] thought it was 1,000. He's in the plane. He thinks
[34:32] it was 1,000 feet that they went down. So there's
[34:34] all kind of conflicting stories. But this last part concerns
[34:38] the rudder, which is a visible thing you can see.
[34:42] You're like, okay, the plane's missing a rudder. So something
[34:45] happened up in the sky where this rudder Pops off,
[34:48] which I think this plane had problems with when there
[34:51] are crashing. Was it Pennsylvania where they thought they were?
[34:55] turning right, but it was making it go right even
[34:58] more or something. I don't know about that. This happened
[35:00] in the late 90s, I think. I'm surprised. You mean
[35:02] Denzel Washington where he flew it upside down? No, that
[35:05] was a movie. Oh, I'm sorry. That was real. It
[35:09] seemed real to me. All right, let's do number three,
[35:11] the rudder. We do know there was damage on the
[35:14] rudder, right, from whatever the speeds actually will turn out.
[35:16] to be, and portions of it apparently tore away during
[35:19] flight. Now, obviously, with serious damage to the rudder, a
[35:21] plane's going to crash. So when you just look at
[35:24] what we know here, how fortunate do you think it
[35:26] is that this plane was actually even able to safely
[35:29] land? Yeah. Well, when I saw the images of the
[35:33] aircraft on the ground with the rudder section torn out,
[35:37] I immediately had a cold chill because the amount of
[35:41] damage that that would cause hydraulic systems, electrical systems, especially
[35:46] hydraulics. Once you start ripping apart electronics, you start to
[35:51] bleed hydraulic fuel, excuse me, I'll get my words right
[35:57] here, and that would have affected other systems in the
[36:00] airplane The saving grace on this one is at the
[36:03] vertical fin. So you'll see the vertical fin of the
[36:05] aircraft, and then the rudder is at the rear portion,
[36:08] the rear portion of that. That rudder was torn away.
[36:12] The vertical fin was what saved the day because that
[36:14] gave the aircraft directional stability, and I do not know
[36:17] how much longer they could have flown it after they
[36:21] landed it. because of the loss of hydraulic fluid due
[36:24] to the rudder being removed from the aircraft. So this
[36:26] is a very incredible story about the MAX 8. We've
[36:30] seen the MAX 8 in the news before. I've been
[36:32] certainly involved with that. And to see this aircraft land
[36:35] safely after going, I think it went supersonic momentarily. I
[36:39] think that Max 8 is fully redeemed. Oh, yeah. Okay.
[36:44] Oh, that's fully redeemed. Oh, the Max 8 is fully
[36:47] redeemed. Success. Oh, this plane is not only safe, it's
[36:50] super duper safe. That's right. So I just did a
[36:53] book of knowledge search, and it was U.S. Air Flight
[36:57] 427, September 8, 1994. It had a rudder hardover, and
[37:01] I think you've talked about this on the show probably
[37:04] five or six years ago, but it was a Boeing
[37:06] 737. I think it was when the Boeing Airbus wars
[37:08] were going on. What was the flight number? U.S. Air
[37:12] Flight 427, and they called it a rudder hardover where
[37:17] I guess they think – or they're seeing – The
[37:19] rudder go one way, and they're trying to correct it,
[37:22] but it's actually going the opposite way, so they're making
[37:25] it worse. And then by the time they realize that,
[37:27] it was too late, and they killed 132 people. Well,
[37:31] whatever this was, and we should find out. I mean,
[37:36] they just need to release the data. And even my
[37:41] Israeli friends, you know, the ones who pay me $7,000
[37:44] to shill for Israel? Oh, yeah. They're so convinced because
[37:49] the way – Netanyahu came out, you know, another 9-11,
[37:53] 9-11 style attack, 9-11, 9-11, you know, terrorists. There's boogeyman
[37:58] everywhere. And by the way, you know, there's boogeyman everywhere.
[38:01] Absolutely. But now we have more proof. This is the
[38:05] first time that we are able to report the name
[38:09] of the suspected attacker of that flagpole. Dubai flight. According
[38:14] to one of the sources we spoke to, his name
[38:16] is Hamam al-Hamami. He was born in the United Arab
[38:20] Emirates to an Omani father and a Syrian mother. We
[38:24] found a LinkedIn page that has since been taken down.
[38:29] The same LinkedIn where John C. Dvorak posed as a
[38:31] woman. With that name. name, which one of those sources
[38:34] confirmed as being the same co-pilot of that Fly Dubai
[38:39] flight. This LinkedIn page shows him having worked for Oman
[38:43] Air for seven years until February of 2025 before joining
[38:48] Morocco's flagship airline. I also spoke to a source who
[38:53] confirmed that the co-pilot of this Dubai flight had indeed
[38:56] worked for that very same Moroccan national airline. But what's
[39:00] most interesting is what is on that LinkedIn profile. So
[39:03] basically they went to the Wayback Machine. There is a
[39:06] video that was posted from the cockpit of an airplane
[39:10] at Dubai airport that shows El Al Plains, Israel's flagship
[39:15] carrier. That video ends with a photo of Ayman al-Zawahiri,
[39:20] the al-Qaeda leader who took over after Osama bin Laden's
[39:25] death. Because that's what you do as an airline pilot.
[39:28] You want to post pictures and videos of El Al
[39:31] and then a terrorist. This will get me a promotion.
[39:35] This will get me somewhere. Another man. is also shown
[39:38] at the end of that video. That man was responsible
[39:41] for a 2009 suicide bombing in Afghanistan. Yeah, all right.
[39:47] But there's more from CNN, because CNN's got it, man.
[39:50] Now, that video was actually posted about nine hours after
[39:53] Hamami allegedly tried to hijack that Fly Dubai flight. Hold
[39:59] on a second. Wait a minute. So that was posted.
[40:02] It was posted after. Afterwards. I thought this guy was
[40:04] taken into custody. So who's posting this? I don't know.
[40:07] Not clear how that video got off. Yeah, not clear.
[40:09] Oh, not clear. Okay. Well, you just completely associated the
[40:12] video with him, but now it's not clear. Whether it
[40:14] was pre-scheduled, whether he had. Pre-scheduled. Ah, yes. I know
[40:18] what I'm doing. Ah, let me pre-schedule this. This is
[40:21] my suicide note. I'm going to put it up. up
[40:22] here. Crappy suicide note, bro. Somebody else posted. We've also
[40:27] analyzed a deleted Twitter account that shows Hamami railing against
[40:33] mixed-gender workplaces and expressing other misogynistic... Oh, it wasn't that
[40:38] stupid. Not that bad. And some deeply religious views as
[40:43] well like what so you take all that information you
[40:46] also what does that even mean deeply religious views as
[40:50] well why don't you tell us what that is This
[40:53] was Allahu Akbar over and over again. It's rather bothersome
[40:56] that he didn't mention it. And some deeply religious views
[41:00] as well. So you take all that information. You also
[41:03] take the fact that we have multiple sources saying that
[41:06] he was removed from flight training at Oman Air last
[41:09] year. Multiple sources. Wow. Unnamed. Come on, CNN. So now
[41:13] he's flying with flight. Dubai. I guess they don't check...
[41:16] the LinkedIn page. I mean, they're literally doing chat GPT
[41:20] lookups now. They are just so phoning this in. Over
[41:23] concerns about his extremist views. And then somehow he gets
[41:27] hired at Fly Dubai. Now, we don't know whether Fly
[41:31] Dubai was aware of these radical views that he had,
[41:36] whether they You had conducted a thorough background check. All
[41:40] of that is still unknown at this point. And Fly
[41:42] Dubai for now is not commenting, saying that there is
[41:46] an ongoing investigation. Yeah. Well, the public demands information. You
[41:52] have this information. There was no crash. It's been recorded.
[41:56] Give it up. Give it up already. Give it up.
[41:58] I think there's a reason they're not because the tail
[42:01] that's already out there is like, well, we'll just leave
[42:03] this floating around. And I think it's going to be
[42:05] a lot less. It's not going to be as fast.
[42:08] There was probably something that happened with the rudder. Maybe
[42:10] there was a disagreement with this guy. Who knows? Maybe
[42:13] there is a guy with blood on his shirt and
[42:15] there's a guy with blood on his head. Maybe they
[42:17] were arguing over hummus. I mean, anything is possible. Anything
[42:20] is possible because everything I've heard is there was a
[42:23] fight. It wasn't like a fight. The guy's trying to
[42:26] stop him to crash the airplane. There was a fight
[42:28] and a bad fight. And it was an Indian and
[42:30] an Arab, so it could have been anything. Right. I
[42:33] mean, who knows what they were fighting over. Yeah. Somebody
[42:36] did, there was a lot of fun video posted of
[42:39] the, it's this meme video of these Two Indian guys
[42:43] cussing each other out, or they could be Pakistani, I
[42:45] don't know. But they're like, here's the flight recorder. You
[42:48] effing effer. I'm going to kill you. Which I'm like,
[42:52] yeah, that's where I think happened. Well, the parody videos
[42:57] are... Just off the hook. Oh, yeah. That stuff is,
[43:02] I mean, my favorite has got to be Friends, Comrades.
[43:06] Have you seen those? Oh, yes, yes, yes. In the
[43:09] style of Friends with Che Guevara and Stalin and Mao
[43:13] and Pinochet. This stuff has gotten good. There was an
[43:17] animated group who, like, the morning of this thing happening,
[43:20] I guess these guys are somewhere where they get up
[43:22] before us. They already had a Japanese anime style show.
[43:27] of this thing happening and the uh but they're all
[43:29] you know they're kind of they're all white people like
[43:32] whitish with big eyes and so the co-pilot pulls out
[43:34] his knife and just starts hacking the guy going oh
[43:37] they're like people are running in and grabbing the guy
[43:40] and it's all you know they're cutting to news reports
[43:43] and the plane's safely on the ground you know you're
[43:47] a pilot Is it possible that the way they're explaining
[43:52] this story, that it dropped like this, whether the engines
[43:55] were cut off or not, is it possible to pull
[43:58] yourself out of a dive like that at that point?
[44:00] A speed and altitude? Well, the question is like that.
[44:04] I mean, what is that? I still don't know what
[44:07] the dive was. We do not have accurate data. Well,
[44:11] based on what they're saying on these images, they're showing
[44:14] images of this flight path, which are from websites that
[44:17] supposedly track these planes. And, yeah, I would say it
[44:20] should be possible, but I can't believe you even got
[44:24] into that amount of speed in the dive. You know,
[44:27] right. And, you know, just pull as the president said,
[44:29] pulling up on the stick, pulling back on the controls.
[44:33] Yeah. There would be a high likelihood or a possibility
[44:37] that you'd rip the ailerons off. I mean, you'd have
[44:40] to go real easy, and you would have to retard
[44:42] the engines. I love saying retard the engines. It's my
[44:45] favorite. But you could – a plumber, plumber strength would
[44:48] be able to do it. Only if he watched air
[44:50] crash investigations. Exactly. He would need the knowledge. Stabilizers on.
[44:57] I'm happy everybody's safe. Whatever happened up there.
[45:00] there that's the good news and uh we'll have to
[45:03] see but i am anxiously i've just checked out my
[45:06] favorite uh pilot forums they they you know there's no
[45:09] data so most of the smart guys are going like
[45:12] you're just blowing in the wind you know we don't
[45:15] know we don't know anything when we get the data
[45:18] Which is why I joined Pilots for 9-11 Truth. I
[45:20] saw the data. I'm like, this is bogus. That was
[45:22] my proof. I'm like, no, the data you actually gave
[45:25] us, whether it's true or not, is not possible. My
[45:29] favorite is Hani Hanjur's corkscrew into the Pentagon. Beautiful. The
[45:34] guy who can even fly a Cessna. That's the best
[45:36] one. And the thing flew over the Pentagon at about
[45:38] 170 feet, according to their own data. So I don't
[45:41] know what it was, but it doesn't seem like it
[45:43] was a plane. Now, this other story popped up. Which
[45:49] I'm still looking for October surprises. We need the elites
[45:52] of the world who – and by the way, that's
[45:55] some of the trolls in our very own troll room
[45:58] who hate Donald Trump and do not want him to
[46:01] have any type of victory, the Republicans, anything – They'll
[46:06] do anything. There's a lot more riding on who runs
[46:10] Congress than a couple of lives, so they don't care.
[46:14] So an October surprise, it's got to be AI-related. I
[46:19] don't think the terror thing that works great for Netanyahu,
[46:22] his election is on the 27th. He's going to milk
[46:25] that for all it's worth, and I can't blame him.
[46:27] That's what you do. I mean, if I was on
[46:30] that plane, I'd be milking it. I'd be on CNN.
[46:33] I'd be raking in the dough. I watched the documentary
[46:37] on his supposed corruption – What are they're saying is
[46:40] corruption. And it was like getting cigars and champagne delivered
[46:44] to – I'm like, that's it? That's – Trump? About
[46:47] Trump? No, no, no. Netanyahu. They said he was receiving
[46:50] bribes. I know. I'm like, okay, let's – this is
[46:52] going to be juicy. And it's like – It's not
[46:54] all that great. He got cigars and he got champagne
[46:56] and his wife may have gotten some jewelry, which, okay
[47:01] – There's nothing about it. Well, he wasn't killing –
[47:04] it didn't seem like – They had evidence of him
[47:05] killing people or October 7th stand down, which that's what
[47:09] I was looking for. I'm like, let's see the evidence.
[47:10] I want to see the evidence. I need your Venmo
[47:13] for Hasbro. They want to send you $7,000. I said
[47:18] something nice. I'm just like, how is this the level
[47:21] of we have a special report about Netanyahu? Yeah. I
[47:25] don't know. I think he's a good guy, by the
[47:27] way. Didn't Tucker? Tucker was touting that. Is that his
[47:30] documentary? Tucker replayed – he replayed someone else's documentary. That
[47:33] was a year old, but he kind of brought it
[47:35] out. He remarketed it essentially for his audience, his Tucker
[47:38] audience. He seems like he's disappeared. Well, no, not on
[47:43] my feed. He's everywhere. He's – He was talking about
[47:49] how math is... Math was invented by the Jews to
[47:54] imprison people. I'm like, really? Okay. I don't like math
[47:57] either, but I'm not going to go that far. All
[47:59] right. Here is the latest possible October surprise. A deadly
[48:03] case of the plague in Russia's southern Siberian region of
[48:07] Irkutsk has put nearly 200 people under quarantine. The regime-independent
[48:11] Moscow time... Times has reported. A lab worker contracted the
[48:15] disease after she reportedly broke a test tube containing live
[48:18] plague bacteria. According to local outlets, she was collecting samples
[48:22] for testing when the incident, believed to be an accident,
[48:25] occurred. Suffering from symptoms of acute pneumonia, she was put
[48:29] on a ventilator on Tuesday, but succumbed to the disease
[48:32] on Thursday. An entire hospital with people who could have
[48:35] come in contact with the infected person has been placed
[48:38] under isolation. According to local authorities, there have been no
[48:42] outbreaks of the plague so far. Ah, this is good.
[48:45] It's the plague, although it's not exactly... It's exactly the
[48:48] plague. It's pneumonic plague. It's a plague-like plague. But it
[48:53] sounds good. Oh, yeah. The plague. The plague. And it
[48:57] was a lady who dropped a test tube in the
[48:59] lab and she died. A woman died of the plague
[49:02] recently and now nearly 200 people are under close medical
[49:05] supervision in Russia. Here's what you need to know. All
[49:07] right. Today is October 3rd, 2026. My name is Dr.
[49:10] Rubin. And recently a woman in her 20s was a
[49:13] lab worker at an anti-plague industry. Institute in Irkutsk, Russia,
[49:17] died of mnemonic plague. This is a type of disease
[49:20] that spreads by respiratory droplets. It can spread from person
[49:25] to person and has an incubation period of about one
[49:28] to seven days, meaning you get infected but don't show
[49:30] symptoms for up to a week. However, it's caused by
[49:33] a bacteria called Yersinia pestis, which is treatable with antibiotics.
[49:39] This is not a viral infection with RSV, influenza or
[49:43] COVID-19. And so this is something that we have to
[49:47] take seriously. But. But it is treatable, and there's no
[49:52] sign of a widespread outbreak that's going from country to
[49:55] country. But if I hear any other information, I will
[49:57] let you know in future posts. So make sure you're
[50:00] following to stay informed. Not something that we have to
[50:03] panic at this time, but we'll keep an eye on
[50:05] it. Smash that like button. Get ready to panic, but
[50:08] not yet. I had both of those labeled under Plandemic
[50:11] 2 Russian Boogaloo. Oh, okay. One was a guy being
[50:15] interviewed by the Times, and then the second one was
[50:19] a Dr. Holscher, who's mainly – he's been studying COVID
[50:23] and the fallout of COVID and alternative treatments for that.
[50:27] And he's like, don't fear. We got antibiotics. Yeah. And
[50:30] antibiotics will treat this. All you have to do is
[50:33] treat it with antibiotics. It's local, basic antibiotics. But this
[50:36] is what we saw with COVID. It could be treated
[50:39] with ivermectin and some antibiotics and stuff. And they're like,
[50:42] no, there's no treatment for anything. So when they start
[50:44] saying there's no treatment... Your No Agenda show has already
[50:47] told you there is a treatment. Yeah. Do you want
[50:50] to play that from the – Why don't we play
[50:52] the plague treatments one because he might even list the
[50:54] antibiotic in there. Everybody's apparently freaking out about this mnemonic
[50:59] plague laboratory acquired infection in Russia. You'll see the article
[51:05] up there from Moscow Times, nearly 200 people under observation.
[51:10] after a Siberian lab worker dies from plague. But what
[51:15] we have to remember is actually, you should not be
[51:19] panicking about this. All right. First of all, this is
[51:23] not the 1300s when the Black Death occurred. You know,
[51:28] we now have... effective treatments. Antibiotics literally wipe out the
[51:33] plague bacteria. Yersinia pestis. There's also been at least five
[51:39] documented pneumonic plague outbreaks and clusters since 2011. And guess
[51:46] what? None of them became a pandemic. None. They were
[51:50] all contained. So I sent my robot out because I
[51:54] got this from... I think it was the, let me
[51:56] see, was it Daily Mail? I'm like, suspicious robot, go
[52:00] find something. I'm like, surely NPR has something on this.
[52:04] And NPR does have, they just put out a whole
[52:10] show about very, very deadly virus. which has just scared
[52:15] me to my wits end. And I'd like to share
[52:18] some of that from your national treasure. Remember the schoolyard
[52:22] rhyme, Miss Lucy had a baby? Some people jump rope
[52:26] to it. Some people learned a hand clapping game. And
[52:29] there was always this one line. Yeah. Measles said the
[52:33] doctor, mom said the nurse, nothing said the lady with
[52:36] the alligator purse. The funny thing is that when I
[52:41] was a kid, measles and mumps weren't super common. Researchers
[52:44] developed a combined... How old are you, 12? ...vaccine for
[52:48] measles, mumps, and rubella in the 70s. It was so
[52:51] effective that measles was declared eliminated in the States in
[52:55] 2000. So most people in the U.S., including me, haven't
[52:59] ever experienced... But measles is making a comeback. Come back.
[53:06] Right. Don't call it a comeback. Now, there are ongoing
[53:09] outbreaks, hundreds of cases. Outbreaks. Mostly among unvaccinated people. Vaccinated.
[53:14] Vaccinated. Like South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. Red states. In
[53:18] Pennsylvania, where the outbreak is biggest, the state health department
[53:21] has. Blue state. Reported 792 cases with four measles associated
[53:26] deaths. And that last term, measles associated deaths, has prompted
[53:31] a lot of conflict between politicians like Health Secretary Robert
[53:35] F. Kennedy Jr. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Measles is
[53:39] not going to kill you. You're not quite there. I'm
[53:44] not quite there yet. You know, with COVID. Motorcycle accident
[53:49] died with COVID. Yeah. So this is the outrage is
[53:53] died with measles. And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. We're trying
[53:57] to figure out, you know, who those guys are and
[54:00] they actually happen and we can't figure that out. I
[54:03] blame RFK and people like it who have spread misinformation
[54:07] and disinformation. But while all these politicians argue, health experts
[54:13] worry that we're overlooking the real problem. I would say
[54:17] we are very much on the road towards an epidemic.
[54:21] Yeah. This is Michael Mina. He's been studying measles for
[54:24] the last 15 years. He's an immunologist and epidemiologist, plus
[54:28] the chief medical officer at biotech companies Invivid and Truvian.
[54:33] We could certainly start to see a greater explosion of
[54:36] measles cases as we move into the future. I think
[54:39] it's very likely that the United States will probably lose
[54:41] its elimination status. status towards the end of this year?
[54:46] So today on the show, the measles outbreak, which deaths
[54:49] are caused by measles versus which ones are associated with
[54:53] it. And is there any way for us to turn
[54:56] this epidemic around? I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to
[55:00] Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. So... Now, so she
[55:06] literally brings in a... You know what the R stands
[55:09] for in NPR? Yeah. retards laughing Yes. So they so
[55:16] they bring in a pharma shill. I mean, what could
[55:19] it be any better than that? And Dr. Scott Gottlieb?
[55:23] No, no. The this guy who works at what is
[55:26] the name of this outfit in vivid? Now, they actually
[55:30] do monoclonal antibodies. And they have an investigational candidate in
[55:36] development, a monoclonal antibody aimed at post-exposure prevention and treatment
[55:41] of measles, providing temporary passive immunity. Woo! So let's bring
[55:47] that guy in and see what he has to say.
[55:49] Can you explain what the measles virus does to our
[55:51] bodies? Kills you right off the bat. Boom, dead. Dead.
[55:55] Did you have the measles as a kid, Rob? You're
[55:57] my age. No, but I have a story associated with
[56:00] that. I did get the MMR because my parents were
[56:03] firm believers in science. Oh, boy. And in 1989 or
[56:07] 90, I was a freshman or sophomore in high school,
[56:10] there was a mumps epidemic all through... sulfur high in
[56:15] southwestern i remember having the mumps i remember that yeah
[56:18] but you know mmr it's measles mumps rubella yeah and
[56:22] so you're not supposed to get it and i asked
[56:24] my mom i said why did i get the mumps
[56:26] didn't you vaccinate me for the mumps and she's like
[56:28] we did you just didn't get a bad case i'm
[56:30] like i had to sit in bed for two weeks
[56:32] what do you mean i didn't get a bad case
[56:33] which i didn't complain about you did You didn't die.
[56:36] You didn't have to go to the hospital. It was
[56:37] not severe. I did not die. You weren't on a
[56:39] ventilator. Can you explain what the measles were? Well, they
[56:42] were worried about it dropping. That was what they were.
[56:45] So you have to sit. On boys, it drops. You
[56:47] can become sterile, all this other stuff, which now I'm
[56:49] like, is that even true? Clearly, in your case, with
[56:52] your 18 children, no damage there. Can you explain what
[56:55] the measles virus does to our bodies? Yeah, measles is
[56:59] much more than just a fever and a rash. Measles
[57:02] causes a tremendous amount of damage to your immune system.
[57:06] Almost killed a Brady Bunch. All sorts of organs that
[57:08] are involved in your immune response. are really under attack.
[57:12] Now, it is possible, I guess, but no one ever
[57:15] asked this question. It's possible that because we jacked all
[57:19] our kids up with MMR – That, you know, now
[57:22] getting the measles would hit you or maybe because we
[57:26] our immune systems are so weakened in general by the
[57:29] amount of vaccinations, poor food, processed food. It's possible that
[57:33] measles could now kill you. But you're right. It didn't
[57:37] kill the Brady Bunch, including Alice. Right. And here's a
[57:40] fun fact. If you look on the insert for the
[57:43] measles, mom's rubella shot, it literally says as a side
[57:46] effect, measles like rash or rubella, which is German measles.
[57:51] You can get either one and it admits it right
[57:54] there in the insert that you can get. So side
[57:56] effects. Yeah, there you go. All right. Yeah. In fact,
[57:59] you were one of the researchers who discovered something called
[58:01] immune amnesia caused by measles. What is that? Yeah, immunological
[58:06] amnesia associated with measles is... It's great. Immunological amnesia. So
[58:11] you were immune, but you forgot. You forgot you were
[58:13] immune. Exactly. Huh? What? What I think of as one
[58:16] of the... Most substantial or consequential effects of getting a
[58:21] measles infection, an individual gets infected with the measles virus.
[58:25] Lifetime immunity. The immune cells in the lungs pull that
[58:28] measles virus in through the tissue, through the lungs, and
[58:32] bring it. into what we call the lymphoid tissue. This
[58:34] is the system in our body where the immune cells
[58:37] live and where they grow and where they're maintained and
[58:40] develop immune memory and protection. Well, the measles virus has
[58:44] this nasty trick. It gets presented to our memory cells.
[58:48] And instead of getting gobbled up by them or destroyed
[58:51] by them, it actually starts attacking them. And it starts...
[58:55] eating away at our immune memory cells. Just like somebody
[58:58] with amnesia maybe has to go through a process of
[59:01] relearning whatever it might be that they have forgotten. Immunological
[59:06] amnesia is where a kid or an individual might have
[59:09] spent the last 10 years of their life going through
[59:11] the sicknesses of childhood to build up a protective immune
[59:14] system so they can live pretty comfortably for the rest
[59:17] of their life. But now you've just erased a lot
[59:20] of that. And what we saw was that a simple
[59:23] measles infection that might look simple on the surface can
[59:26] actually be deleting up to 70% of your hard drive.
[59:31] of your entire immunological memory pool, making them at very
[59:35] high risk for other infectious diseases to be deleted. For
[59:37] years. This is, this is interestingly new. He's killed brain
[59:42] cells in my head. Yeah. So I, and I was
[59:45] like, what is the point of this, um, of this
[59:48] interview and this whole piece? And I think it's really
[59:51] to show that, well, You can die with measles and
[59:55] it really wasn't the measles, but it's because this other
[59:57] stuff that happened to you and he's.
[1:00:00] define that. Yeah, so there's a lot of different jargon
[1:00:03] that's been thrown around about this recent outbreak. Last month,
[1:00:07] for instance, an infant in Lancaster County was declared by
[1:00:10] the Pennsylvania Department of Health to be a measles-associated death,
[1:00:14] but the local coroner disagreed and said that the baby
[1:00:17] died from a ruptured spleen. So let's talk about this
[1:00:20] specific term. Like, what's a measles-associated death? Yeah, it's a
[1:00:25] great question, and I hope we come back to that.
[1:00:28] It's not a great question, lady. A measles-associated death. It's
[1:00:32] not with. It's measles-associated. Okay. Yeah. A MAD, a measles-associated
[1:00:39] death. Nice. Yeah. It's a great question, and I hope
[1:00:42] we come back to that particular case a little bit
[1:00:44] because it's a really rare situation. But a measles-associated death
[1:00:49] is usually – it's sort of, I would say, a
[1:00:51] looser term than saying measles caused this death. It is
[1:00:56] that – Measles had an association with the death. The
[1:00:59] way that I like to think about it is if
[1:01:01] you take a step back and say, would this death
[1:01:03] have occurred had the individual not gotten measles? So this
[1:01:09] is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Like,
[1:01:12] how do we use this term? Right. As much as
[1:01:15] possible. We use it a lot. Why is this case
[1:01:18] so interesting? Well, the splenic rupture case, I think, is
[1:01:23] a really interesting case because it just might be what
[1:01:27] I would consider the one in a million or the
[1:01:30] one in 10,000 time when somebody maybe truly did. die
[1:01:35] with measles, but not because of measles. A lot of
[1:01:39] people would say, well, that sounds nuts. Splenic rupture, the
[1:01:42] child had measles. Of course, it was because of measles.
[1:01:44] But we can look at the literature, and we can
[1:01:46] look at the whole history of measles in the pre-vaccine
[1:01:49] era, and all of the data we've had of measles,
[1:01:53] measles cases, including many pregnancies with measles in the past
[1:01:57] when measles was common. Okay. Wait, wait. I'm done. People
[1:02:01] used to die of measles all the time when it
[1:02:02] was common? Apparently. In the 1600s, maybe. No, this is...
[1:02:09] I never got measles, but I did get chicken pox
[1:02:11] when I was a kid. Yeah, I got those too.
[1:02:15] My sister got it first and then my brother and
[1:02:17] then – My mom said I went to my brother
[1:02:19] was like rubbing myself on my brother to try and
[1:02:21] get chicken pox because I was mad. They got to
[1:02:23] stay home for three weeks from school. Give me that.
[1:02:26] Give me that chicken pox, bro. Give it to me.
[1:02:28] Yeah, I got the worst case. I still have little
[1:02:31] chicken pox scars on my back. I had them on
[1:02:33] the soles of my feet. I had it. My mom.
[1:02:35] It's everywhere. But you know what? Nothing happened to me.
[1:02:39] I have now lifelong immunity from chickenpox. You did wind
[1:02:42] up working for Alex Jones. I mean, that's questionable if
[1:02:45] nothing happened to you. That's true. I do have a
[1:02:48] proclivity to not believing what the media says. Hmm. You're
[1:02:54] immune from media to disinformation. So I've been... Warning about
[1:03:00] this for several months, and now it seems to be
[1:03:03] getting a little bit more serious. An alarming new target
[1:03:07] in Kyiv for Russian drones, the city's bridges across the
[1:03:11] Dnieper River. The northern bridge came under attack Saturday, two
[1:03:15] days after multiple strikes on the southern bridge. They link
[1:03:19] the eastern and western parts of the capital, and the
[1:03:23] aerial attacks have snarled traffic causing major travel disruptions. I
[1:03:29] need to look for a job on the left bank.
[1:03:33] There's no other choice and there's no way out. After
[1:03:35] all, we don't have a tunnel under the Dnepro, so
[1:03:38] we can't walk. This is the first time something like
[1:03:41] this has happened, but it was to be expected. It's
[1:03:45] clear that cutting Kyiv off between the right and left
[1:03:47] banks paralyzes the city's operations. Most residents in the city
[1:03:52] live on the left bank in the east, while the
[1:03:55] right bank is home to the historic center, main business
[1:03:58] hubs, and government buildings. This is the first time in
[1:04:01] the nearly five-year-old war that the bridges have been hit.
[1:04:05] Ukrainian officials say this signals a worrying new stage in
[1:04:08] Moscow's strategy, which could have dire consequences. The enemy is
[1:04:17] laying waste to Kyiv. Infrastructure, critical infrastructure, logistics, housing and
[1:04:23] social facilities. The aggressor has also set about destroying the
[1:04:28] energy sector once again. Russia's defense ministry confirmed it hit
[1:04:36] the northern bridge, alleging it was a legitimate target because
[1:04:39] it was used to transfer military troops and equipment. Moscow
[1:04:43] also warned of new massive strikes on Kiev as it
[1:04:47] issued a call for diplomats and foreigners to leave the
[1:04:50] city. Meanwhile, residents are bracing for more attacks on the
[1:04:53] powerhouse. grid and heating supplies as colder weather approaches. That's
[1:04:59] right. The fighting season is almost over on the battlefield.
[1:05:02] Yeah, so it's drone attacks in the cities. You could
[1:05:06] say this is a retaliation of the Russian power plants
[1:05:10] getting hit, the Russian warehouses, all the apartments there. And
[1:05:15] so what do they expect? But it's like. So Ukraine
[1:05:17] hasn't done anything. It's just this weird – let's keep
[1:05:20] score. If we're going to keep score, let's keep score
[1:05:23] on both sides. And give us the full picture, which
[1:05:25] we don't ever get. Well, to me, I mean, the
[1:05:29] Ukrainians, I feel bad for them because they've just been
[1:05:32] so abused by the EU and the UK in particular.
[1:05:35] The UK are the ones that are pushing this the
[1:05:37] hardest. But now Germany, what they want is they want
[1:05:40] war. They want people to die. In an EU country,
[1:05:44] they want to evoke article 5 questionable whether we're going
[1:05:49] to jump in or not I hope to God we're
[1:05:51] not because they are just poking and poking and poking
[1:05:55] and now it's time to turn up the heat and
[1:05:58] now it's time to frighten the citizens of Germany well
[1:06:02] he already has announced what he's mainly here to deliver
[1:06:05] and that is a promise of supplying at least a
[1:06:08] thousand jet-fueled interceptor drones very, very quickly. And that's Mertz
[1:06:13] from Germany. That is something that the Ukrainians probably most
[1:06:16] desperately need at the moment, to try to stop these
[1:06:18] constant attacks on Kiev and other cities with the new
[1:06:21] jet-powered drones that the Russians have developed. So as I
[1:06:24] understand it, it's a German company called Quantum that has
[1:06:27] been working with Ukrainian partners on the technology. technology, testing
[1:06:30] them here, and the Germans are going to be able
[1:06:32] to mass-produce them. So that's a major piece of very
[1:06:35] concrete good news, as it were, for Ukraine. He's also
[1:06:37] announcing a 1 billion euro defense aid package, 350 million
[1:06:41] for the energy sector, and this statement that he made
[1:06:45] saying that if Russia is not stopped, sooner or later
[1:06:48] its military machine will be turned against us, us meaning
[1:06:52] Germany and the rest of Western Europe. That is exactly
[1:06:54] what Ukrainians have been saying for a very long time
[1:06:57] and very uh it's you know encouraging to hear it
[1:07:00] coming from the mouth of a german it's very encouraging
[1:07:04] to hear thank you thank you well i mean the
[1:07:06] russians cut their their oil supply going to germany right
[1:07:09] didn't they do that too the pipeline well no we
[1:07:11] blew it up i know that is exactly what ukrainians
[1:07:15] have been saying for a very long time and very
[1:07:18] uh It's encouraging to hear it coming from the mouth
[1:07:21] of a German chancellor, especially one who's sort of in
[1:07:25] trouble at home with people like the Alternative for Germany
[1:07:28] far-right party who are saying that Germany should take a
[1:07:31] completely different tack and that Russia doesn't pose a threat
[1:07:34] to them. I always have to – Because we buy
[1:07:36] their oil. Yes. You know, that's one of the things.
[1:07:39] Kill your customer. It's a new marketing plan. Yeah, no
[1:07:44] kidding. I mean, one of the things I learned early
[1:07:46] on, before I was even doing podcasts, I would listen
[1:07:49] to InfoWars. Oh, man. And I think I was in
[1:07:52] probably in London at the time. It was before we
[1:07:55] started the show. And it was like a real audio
[1:07:59] stream. We didn't have podcast. I don't think we have
[1:08:02] 24 hour audio stream. Yeah. I don't know. I guess
[1:08:05] we did have podcasts. It was just around the same
[1:08:07] time. And I always heard Alex Jones say absolute power
[1:08:10] corrupts. Absolutely. And I'm just like, yeah, that's what's going
[1:08:15] on. And these poor people, you know, you know, Poor
[1:08:18] people of Europe. My daughter, I just talked to her
[1:08:20] with the grandbaby. We call them on Sundays, you know,
[1:08:23] try to help her remember what we look like. She
[1:08:27] always looks at me and starts to pucker up, and
[1:08:29] then Tina comes on, and she's like, oh, big smiles.
[1:08:31] I guess I don't have that right baby-cooing voice. But,
[1:08:35] you know, Christina's like, uh... I walk out and said,
[1:08:38] they're in one street in Rotterdam, which is a very
[1:08:41] cool neighborhood. Dutch people. For now. Well, it's pretty locked
[1:08:47] up, but still. So you go around the corner two
[1:08:49] blocks down, all you hear is Arabic. Yeah. And, you
[1:08:53] know, they scoff at women. It's just, it's a nightmare.
[1:08:56] Yeah. It's a nightmare. I'm like, you need to come
[1:08:59] here. Well, what's going on in France is a prelude
[1:09:02] to what's going to happen, you know, slowly in the
[1:09:04] rest of Europe. This is interesting. I'm questioning this because
[1:09:08] they keep talking about, you know, outsiders coming in. I'm
[1:09:14] not sure. These are your GBN clips. Yeah. Yeah, and
[1:09:19] This is something that I think should have been talked
[1:09:21] about years ago. Talking about Infowars, we were talking about
[1:09:25] this, I think, in 2014 and 15 when Libya got
[1:09:30] destroyed. Well, when Gaddafi was the one saying, listen, if
[1:09:35] y'all get rid of me, you're going to be flooded
[1:09:37] with millions of Africans are going to come through into
[1:09:40] Europe. Yes, and let's remind ourselves. I mean, that is
[1:09:44] the land of unconfirmed. Yes, we came, we saw, he
[1:09:48] died. Did it have anything to do with your visit?
[1:09:52] I'm sure it did. Oh, we killed him. Well, I
[1:09:55] do have a Hillary clip. She's identified a new enemy,
[1:09:58] but we can get to that later. And don't play
[1:10:00] that, man. That's an old clip. That's at least two
[1:10:02] years old. Oh, is that an old clip? It's an
[1:10:04] old clip, yeah. It looks so new. No, because it
[1:10:07] said new, colon. Well, then that's the problem. I see
[1:10:10] these clips, and now I ask Grock, I'm like, how
[1:10:13] old is this clip? Because I had five clips that
[1:10:15] Grock was like, no, these are old. And a couple
[1:10:18] of my new, I just want to make sure. So
[1:10:20] a couple of fraud clips. We played that clip episode
[1:10:25] 1903, which was September 2025. It's 1903. No, that had
[1:10:34] to just happen. No, this one. We haven't gotten to
[1:10:38] the more perfect union. And that one. Yeah, that's yeah.
[1:10:41] Yeah. With morning Joe. Yeah. That's a year old. It's
[1:10:43] a year old. Wow. Yeah. It's all right. It's amazing.
[1:10:46] I protect my guest co-hosts. No, you're good. You're good
[1:10:50] at doing that. But, you know, towards the – John
[1:10:52] was doing that towards the end, too. He'd see this
[1:10:54] as a new clip, and it was – it's these
[1:10:56] accounts. And now I've recognized the accounts, and I just
[1:10:59] mute them because they're like breaking news. And you're looking,
[1:11:02] oh, my God. And it's three years old or two
[1:11:04] years old or 12 months old. It's one of my
[1:11:06] superpowers. And I think it's because I – you know
[1:11:10] because i'm always hearing the audio and like and it's
[1:11:13] the audio i recognize i recognize the audio yeah i
[1:11:15] recognize the audio yeah all right so what what's your
[1:11:18] you got your france in flames okay yeah let's go
[1:11:21] france in flames we'll just go through it it's good
[1:11:23] breaking right now breaking france is losing control of its
[1:11:28] own country incoming Nice. Oh! Multiple Nat Pops. Oh, I
[1:11:35] left them all. If I'm not trying to be a
[1:11:39] beginner, Nice. Woo! Love it. Woo! That was a Nat
[1:11:49] Popgasm. Just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Did
[1:11:51] you say Nat Popgasm? Nat Popgasm. That was good. So
[1:11:56] let's just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Schools
[1:11:59] are burning, firefighters are being attacked, police officers are being
[1:12:03] beaten in public, public transport's been stopped, hundreds of schools
[1:12:07] closed, kids aren't at school, they're burning down their schools
[1:12:10] instead. Roughly 3,000 people... arrested. 3,000, 2,000 in a single
[1:12:15] day. And this isn't just some distant country on the
[1:12:18] other side of the world. Let me just remind you
[1:12:19] where it is. It's our friendly cooperative neighbors across the
[1:12:22] channel. France, one of the richest countries on Earth. A
[1:12:25] nuclear power, a G7 economy, 20 miles from Britain. Yeah,
[1:12:29] 3.5 trillion euro in debt. I don't know about the
[1:12:32] richest country, but yeah. Yeah. And socialists, we should add
[1:12:35] that. And overrun, overrun by immigrants in many parts. What
[1:12:41] was interesting about the Nat Pop, every time they cut
[1:12:44] to a different image, it was something on fire. Whether
[1:12:47] it was a barricade or a building or a truck,
[1:12:49] something on fire. Did you see the image of the
[1:12:52] firefighter on fire with the kids filming it? And the
[1:12:55] kids are all filming it like, ooh, like it's a
[1:12:58] world star hip-hop moment. We live in a fallen world,
[1:13:01] my brother. live in a fallen world. Written, I would
[1:13:05] say, don't you dare look away tonight because France has
[1:13:08] spent decades conducting one of the biggest experiments. Now, this,
[1:13:11] of course, is GBN. So they're the ones that are
[1:13:14] saying, don't look away. It's coming here. It's coming here
[1:13:16] next. France has spent decades conducting one of the biggest
[1:13:19] experiments in mass migration and integration in Europe. And tonight,
[1:13:23] while its politicians argue about education funding, the state is
[1:13:26] fighting to restore order on its own streets. Thank you.
[1:13:38] Now, I want to be precise. We don't know that
[1:13:40] the people carrying out these attacks are migrants, so I'm
[1:13:42] not going to tell you that, but neither should we
[1:13:44] pretend the wider arguments about crisis social cohesion doesn't exist.
[1:13:50] Who was, from the reports that I got, it was
[1:13:53] kids in school. Right. I think it's second and third
[1:13:58] generation. Kids in school. Brownish people overall. Brownish people, Rob
[1:14:04] Dill. In the ones I'm seeing, that's what it looks
[1:14:06] like. I've seen them attacking people. They're attacking whitish people.
[1:14:11] Whitish people. Yeah, well, there's got whitish people, you got
[1:14:14] brownish people. And they seem to be fighting each other,
[1:14:17] plus burning. There was a great shot of, it's a
[1:14:20] long... shot of these people running down a street. It
[1:14:24] looked like a zombie movie. I'm like, that's a zombie
[1:14:26] movie right there. It's amazing. So it makes great video,
[1:14:29] but also, like you said with these old clips, somebody
[1:14:32] posted the burning bus driving through the road signs And
[1:14:37] that was from 2023. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. At this
[1:14:40] point, who knows? And now comes the part that should
[1:14:43] really worry you, I argue. The government has started. Wow,
[1:14:45] that sounds like an AI-generated script on the teleprompter. And
[1:14:49] now comes the part that should really worry you. This
[1:14:53] is load-bearing. And now comes the part that should really
[1:14:55] worry you, I argue. The government has started consistently. They're
[1:14:58] backing down because...
[1:15:00] One of the measures opposed by students has been completely
[1:15:02] scrapped. Meetings with student representatives have been granted, given the
[1:15:07] green light. French news outlet Le Monde is describing it
[1:15:10] as the government's first retreat, quote-unquote. Now listen carefully, because
[1:15:14] the students peacefully protesting may have legitimate grievances. They're talking
[1:15:19] about teacher shortages, overcrowding, classrooms. Whenever in the history of
[1:15:24] their school, in the history of school, have kids complain,
[1:15:28] I'm not getting a good lesson. The teacher's not strict
[1:15:32] enough. Wait till you hear these numbers. There's 30 to
[1:15:36] 35 children in the classroom. I mean, goodness me, we've
[1:15:39] had that for decades. Poor facilities and so on and
[1:15:42] so. Mm-hmm. Okay. I just like how he walks back
[1:16:00] everything. There are these migrants doing this, but we don't
[1:16:02] have any proof that there's migrants. So I'm going to
[1:16:04] take that back now. These kids are burning down schools.
[1:16:06] Well, we don't know if it's the kids burning down
[1:16:08] schools. Wow. Or we don't know if it's the kids
[1:16:10] doing violence. It's interesting walk back on almost every statement
[1:16:13] he makes, which maybe he's doing that not to get
[1:16:16] arrested because can you get arrested in Britain for. Yeah.
[1:16:20] Speaking out on certain topics? For anything. Yeah. Well, or
[1:16:25] maybe it's just the AI that wrote the script. Oh,
[1:16:28] right. We have to be fair and just. I see
[1:16:31] my robots do this all the time. It's like, I
[1:16:34] won't write that. Oh, okay. All right. No, that's fine.
[1:16:40] We were trying to put a protester in a video,
[1:16:43] and we wanted a pink-haired... That person. Were you creating
[1:16:48] disinformation, Mr. Do? No, we were just creating a video.
[1:16:52] And I think it might have been the one where
[1:16:55] we did – one of our guys did Bill Hicks
[1:16:57] doing a new version of his – Oh, that's a
[1:17:00] great video. The kidney assassination. Yeah. And so I think
[1:17:03] it was outside that one or it might have been
[1:17:05] another one. We did one in a theater and outside
[1:17:06] the theater there's a protest going on. So we wanted
[1:17:09] – pussy hat wearing protesters. Of course. And the AI
[1:17:12] was like, I cannot make a fat protester. I cannot
[1:17:14] make a fat protester. I cannot body shame the protesters.
[1:17:18] So we're like, a large person that doesn't exercise is
[1:17:21] what ended up working. Did you get that? We got
[1:17:24] a fat person. A large person that does not exercise.
[1:17:28] That's great. I always say... I'm not going to use
[1:17:31] it for anything commercial. It's just for my own edutainment.
[1:17:34] Oh, okay. Oh, I can do that then. Yeah, no
[1:17:36] problem. All right. Cliff four. What does the rioter really
[1:17:41] think? What does that person who's burning down a school
[1:17:44] or a fire engine or beating a police officer or
[1:17:46] setting a fireman to a light? What does he really
[1:17:49] think about it? What does the thug behind the burning
[1:17:52] barricade see? Cool TikTok video is what he's thinking. Yeah,
[1:17:55] exactly. That was cool. Chaos. Arrest. Police. Police injured, schools
[1:17:59] closed, emergency meetings, complete anarchy. And then the government moves,
[1:18:03] they adjust and they back down. So what lesson has
[1:18:06] he just learned? I guess make enough noise and somebody
[1:18:09] listens, somebody caves in, cause enough chaos and somebody negotiates,
[1:18:14] make the state lose control and somebody gives you something
[1:18:16] in return. Because if that becomes the perception, if that
[1:18:19] becomes knowledge, the norm, rioting has just acquired political value.
[1:18:23] And once disorder appears to get results, well you get
[1:18:26] more disorder. I think rioting's always had political value. Pretty
[1:18:31] much. Whether people, you know, I don't agree with rioting,
[1:18:35] but it's held political value all throughout the history. Just
[1:18:40] ask your parents. Yeah. Now, the last clip. He talks
[1:18:44] about, which I think is the heart of it all,
[1:18:46] and you've talked about it before, it's immigration versus integration.
[1:18:50] You can bring people in, but if you don't help
[1:18:53] them integrate into society, you've got these people who are
[1:18:57] going to be left to their own devices. And I
[1:19:00] think here in the United States, I think if you
[1:19:02] – And I think people should sign up for this.
[1:19:05] If we're going to bring people in, which I think
[1:19:07] we have too many people that we're bringing in. But
[1:19:09] if you're going to bring people in, they have a
[1:19:12] family that is like their host family. People can volunteer
[1:19:15] to do this. You'd be a host to help integrate
[1:19:16] these people. It's either we fix because the government's not
[1:19:19] going to fix the problem. They're just going to throw
[1:19:21] money at it. But if we fix the problem, we
[1:19:23] go, hey. We're here to help you. This is the
[1:19:26] Constitution. This is the bill. We stop at red lights.
[1:19:29] We go in green lights. Here's how you fight a
[1:19:32] ticket. You know, all the things you need to do
[1:19:35] to be a good citizen. Here's how you hold the
[1:19:38] AR-15. Here's how you open a Lone Star with your
[1:19:44] lighter. Okay? This is the stuff you need. Because our
[1:19:47] politicians keep asking, how many people can Britain take? I'd
[1:19:51] say perhaps that's the wrong question. In fact, it definitely
[1:19:53] is the wrong question. Ask them this. How much immigration
[1:19:56] can Britain successfully integrate while remaining a cohesive country? Because
[1:20:00] those two numbers won't be the same, I can guarantee
[1:20:02] you. And if ministers can't tell us how integration keeps
[1:20:05] pace with immigration, if they can't explain what newcomers and
[1:20:07] their descendants should expect in Britain, and what Britain expects
[1:20:10] in return, if they can't explain what new people should
[1:20:12] be. can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics
[1:20:14] gets... I can't believe they're calling... This is GBN. They're
[1:20:17] calling them newcomers? That's a complete woke term, newcomers. Very
[1:20:21] much. The newcomers. The newcomers and their descendants should expect
[1:20:24] from Britain, and what Britain expects in return, if they
[1:20:27] can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics gets
[1:20:30] angry... then they're not managing immigration. In my opinion, they're
[1:20:33] gambling with your country and with our future. And once
[1:20:36] you lose the value of law and order, the question
[1:20:39] then becomes, what will the government give them to make
[1:20:42] it stop? How will they back down? It's the most
[1:20:44] dangerous thing a government can teach, is that a mob
[1:20:47] gets results. mobs do get results. They definitely do. Look
[1:20:53] at the George Floyd riots. There was plenty of kneeling
[1:20:55] going on. The thing that kills me, having been in
[1:20:58] the UK for about five years, you cannot bring your
[1:21:01] dog into the country or your cat. Without putting them
[1:21:06] in quarantine for six months. But if you have an
[1:21:11] inflatable rat, you can make money. Here's the France 24
[1:21:15] version of the story just for a... for a version
[1:21:19] from the French state media. It's been 18 days since
[1:21:22] we first reported on isolated cases of school protests at
[1:21:25] high schools. This has been going on for 18 days
[1:21:27] here. Isolated. One in Reb, in Brittany, in Cannes, in
[1:21:31] Normandy, and Villeneuve-D'Ascq on the suburbs of Lille. The complaints
[1:21:34] were similar in theme, overloaded timetables, staff problems, poor facilities,
[1:21:38] and it spread to Saint-Denis, at Cretais on the outskirts
[1:21:42] of Paris days later. One interview with the students was
[1:21:44] seen in Cretais 1.4 million times on TikTok. It's gathered
[1:21:49] paste. It's morphed into what we've seen through this week.
[1:21:51] Some peaceful, some with deeply distressing scenes. Beyond the makeshift
[1:21:55] barricades, a school in Nantes set on fire. Firefighters forced
[1:21:58] out the vehicle in Marseille. The fire engine set light.
[1:22:01] Scroll your socials. It is hard to miss some of
[1:22:03] the uglier scenes. And a female police officer being attacked
[1:22:05] on the ground. Youth shouting, Kill her. Where's it heading?
[1:22:09] What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators
[1:22:13] linked to the hard left, exploiting and generating concerns for
[1:22:16] political ends ahead of the election, which LeFant insurmise... Oh,
[1:22:20] wait a minute. There you go. Oh, now we understand.
[1:22:25] What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators
[1:22:29] linked to I favour that. We have heard from one
[1:22:52] of the main unions today in support of the protests.
[1:22:55] We are somewhat disappointed by the lack of a concrete
[1:22:58] commitment from the minister. We'd expected a bit more from
[1:23:03] him, but now I think we need to engage in
[1:23:05] in-depth work with the ministry while simultaneously keeping up the
[1:23:08] mobilization in high schools to build leverage. That's how a
[1:23:13] labor dispute works when you want to secure your demands
[1:23:16] and get measures implemented. Okay, so this seems purely political.
[1:23:22] Maybe it got a bit out of hand. And instead
[1:23:25] of newcomers, now we call them outsiders. I spent most
[1:23:28] of my day in the northern suburb of Aubertville, north
[1:23:33] of Paris, and the situation was incredibly volatile all day.
[1:23:38] Now, it did start off peacefully. Between 7 a.m. and
[1:23:41] 9 a.m., there were hundreds of students who were peacefully
[1:23:44] chanting slogans. looked like any normal protest. But then the
[1:23:50] situation dewelled incredibly quickly when a group of outsiders came
[1:23:54] running to the lycée. They started tearing down the gates
[1:23:59] of the school. And that's when the police responded violently
[1:24:04] and quickly with a huge amount of tear gas in
[1:24:07] all directions. My team and I were caught in the
[1:24:10] middle of that tear gas as well as the many
[1:24:13] miners who were in front of the school protesting. Now
[1:24:17] that situation was repeated at various lices in the neighborhood
[1:24:23] and it just kept happening over and over. Now I
[1:24:27] spoke to a and teachers, union representatives on the ground
[1:24:32] who said they were incredibly frustrated because, of course, the
[1:24:37] protests were supposed to happen peacefully and they were frustrated
[1:24:41] about the use of illegitimate force used by the police,
[1:24:45] they said. But also there was some frustration about these
[1:24:48] outsiders coming out. and creating, stirring up violence as well.
[1:24:53] And I also spoke to police officers and they said
[1:24:55] it was incredibly difficult to distinguish between these outsiders and
[1:24:59] the peaceful protesters because on various occasions you could see
[1:25:03] groups of young people throwing projectiles, stones and rocks at
[1:25:08] police forces and they very quickly responded with a huge
[1:25:13] amount of tear gas. I don't know. I don't know.
[1:25:17] But wherever there's an election and there's trouble, I'm always
[1:25:20] pretty suspicious about. Well, I have some Glenn Beck analysis
[1:25:24] clips. We don't have to play all of them. Let
[1:25:26] me guess. He answered at the end is always Soros.
[1:25:31] No, he didn't say Soros. But he might as well
[1:25:34] have. He's firmly entrenched. It's a red-green alliance going on,
[1:25:39] which could be the outsiders. I could see that being
[1:25:41] the outsiders. So the socialists and the Muslims. Yes, socialists
[1:25:45] and Muslims working together. The red is the commies and
[1:25:49] the green is the Islamists. But his first part, talking
[1:25:52] about the... The barricades was interesting because he's sort of
[1:25:56] like what we've been seeing. These people, they set up
[1:25:59] an argument and then they backtalk their argument after they
[1:26:02] set it up, which I don't know. I don't know.
[1:26:04] I don't know what that is now, but maybe maybe
[1:26:06] A.I. is writing everything at this point. But let's just
[1:26:08] play the first Glenn Beck one about barricades because it's
[1:26:10] historical. Barricades keep showing up in France. That is why
[1:26:15] Paris has the wide boulevards. We were just talking about
[1:26:18] this with the insiders. You know, you go into these
[1:26:22] old European imperial cities. And you'll see these huge wide
[1:26:27] boulevards. And the reason why is because they all lead
[1:26:31] to the palace and it's all this grandiose bullcrap. Not
[1:26:34] in France, not in Paris. No, no, no, no. They
[1:26:38] have the white boulevards to stop the barricades because the
[1:26:41] French Revolution happened and they barricaded themselves. They would just
[1:26:45] throw furniture out of the windows and they barricade the
[1:26:47] street and then they would fire from behind the barricades.
[1:26:51] So I think it was Napoleon II or III was
[1:26:52] the one who said, you know, enough of that. I'm
[1:26:56] going to mow all this down. We're going to make
[1:26:58] huge – and that way it will be grand and
[1:26:59] beautiful, but we also don't have barricades. They're doing it
[1:27:02] again. Okay? They're showing up to the barricades with Palestinian
[1:27:06] flags and Algerian flags. Huh. Police are now saying, wait
[1:27:09] a minute. I'm noticing that there's a lot of non-students
[1:27:14] on the line. With vague demands. Le Miserable. Which, yeah,
[1:27:22] he actually does bring up Le Miserable in the beginning.
[1:27:27] I cut that part out because it was, you know,
[1:27:30] in case people hadn't watched it or whatnot. But he
[1:27:33] said the barricades. Uncultured. Uncultured. Yeah, the uncultured masses. You
[1:27:38] know, the barricades. They made the streets wider for no
[1:27:43] barricades, but now there's barricades. Because they weren't wide enough,
[1:27:47] I guess. I guess not. I don't think you could
[1:27:49] ever make them wide enough for barricades. But then he
[1:27:52] goes into the Red-Green Alliance, and it's typical – Glenn
[1:27:57] Beck, I wouldn't say fear mongering, but just that's his,
[1:28:01] you know, his wheelhouse is now in that form. But
[1:28:05] people are saying there's outsiders there coming in. And that's
[1:28:08] what happens in these protests. It starts off with that's
[1:28:11] believable. I think that the red, the red green alliance
[1:28:15] seems that seems true. Oh, it's – I think it's
[1:28:19] happening here because you see most of the – I
[1:28:22] guess the – I don't want to call them Islamists,
[1:28:26] but the Muslims, they seem to be more Democrat than
[1:28:29] Republican if you're going to look at it from a
[1:28:32] party standpoint. Well, it's – It's the Democrats who will
[1:28:39] take anybody. That's what it is. And especially groups who
[1:28:43] are small. Right, right. You get enough small groups. Marginalized.
[1:28:49] Marginalized is the operating word. This is why everyone's talking
[1:28:53] about a blue wave. It's a blue wave. I question
[1:28:56] this blue wave. I mean, yes, there's a lot of
[1:28:59] people who are just completely sick in the head. Of
[1:29:04] course. But I question how many people really want to
[1:29:08] vote for that. It's going to be interesting with what
[1:29:12] happens also with the mail-in ballots and what power Trump
[1:29:16] is actually going to have in this because he was
[1:29:18] trying to go through the post office. Martial law! There's
[1:29:21] a – who knows what's going to happen. It's going
[1:29:24] to be interesting no matter what. Right. We'll be reporting
[1:29:27] and we'll actually be reporting on it from our old
[1:29:30] studio. which is interestingly enough. You're back in the old
[1:29:34] studio, the one where I went, that one? Yeah, and
[1:29:37] you should be getting a call soon to come back
[1:29:39] and say hi. Oh, you know, I desperately want to
[1:29:43] be. Curry, you're afraid to come on. You're afraid to
[1:29:46] come on the show. You're going to have to set
[1:29:48] the record straight. But... But in the way that happened,
[1:29:53] people are like, how did this happen? How did this
[1:29:55] happen? It's a matter of possession, really, basically.
[1:30:00] Basic possession laws, when you vacate a property and stop
[1:30:03] paying your rent, well, the landlord could confiscate your stuff
[1:30:08] as payment for the debt. So 30 days didn't get
[1:30:13] paid. They sent out a notice to the receiver. The
[1:30:15] receiver didn't do anything with it. And so – And
[1:30:19] the landlord took over the property with all the stuff
[1:30:21] in it, all the cameras, everything in there, and then
[1:30:24] approached us and said, do you guys want to sign
[1:30:27] a lease? Great. That's how it's like, okay. So it
[1:30:31] was basically time and property laws just sort of happened.
[1:30:36] And they I guess the appeals court put a two
[1:30:39] year stay on anything till it goes through the Texas
[1:30:42] Supreme Court. So nothing's going to happen for two years
[1:30:45] in either in either direction. Well, I'm happy to hear
[1:30:49] that. I mean, pretty weird, though. I mean, it's been
[1:30:52] a long, long. Oh, it's been a long five years.
[1:30:55] Was it three years, maybe? Three years? 2018 is when
[1:30:58] the lawsuit was filed. Wow. Since then. Yeah, basically for
[1:31:02] free speech, call it crazy, but free speech, freedom of
[1:31:05] speech, speech you're allowed to you're allowed to speech speech.
[1:31:09] What's amazing is what people are getting away with now
[1:31:12] and talking about like this, which is stuff Alex never
[1:31:16] even got close to saying. And but with the power
[1:31:20] of the media and a concerted effort. which I believe
[1:31:23] is led by Hillary Clinton and those people. That's what
[1:31:27] I think. They're just middle management, man. Come on. Well,
[1:31:30] sure. There's obviously people running these things from the outside.
[1:31:35] But she was the first one to mention Alex. Sandy
[1:31:39] Hook and Donald Trump on the same speech, trying to
[1:31:42] tie Alex to Trump and then Alex to Sandy Hook.
[1:31:45] Yeah. That was during the election. Well done. Yeah. I
[1:31:50] mean, it definitely caused a bunch of, And road bumps
[1:31:55] and backtracking and trying to find, you know, trying to
[1:31:59] keep a business going and being attacked with bank, debanking
[1:32:02] and credit cards. So, you know, we're not victims, but
[1:32:05] we've had to fight through this stuff. It's been crazy.
[1:32:08] So we're at war with Canada in multiple fronts. And
[1:32:13] the latest war is, of course, our agents. are rogue
[1:32:16] agents who are hacking Canada because the agents are rogue.
[1:32:20] These are the two terms you need to read. The
[1:32:22] two are agents and rogue and hacking. These are the
[1:32:25] only three words you need. Agent, rogue agents are hacking.
[1:32:28] Rogue agents are hacking. Let's find out how we are
[1:32:31] hacking Canada. This is a new disturbing example of... Disturbing!
[1:32:35] ...AI agents trying to go rogue and hack into official
[1:32:38] government websites. So this time they targeted websites run by
[1:32:41] the Canadian government, including its Library of Congress. Researchers say
[1:32:45] that the AI agents tried to access public data Hold
[1:32:48] on a second. Wait, how was it public? Hold on
[1:32:52] a second. There's hacking and then there's trying to access
[1:32:56] public websites with public information, but they weren't supposed to.
[1:33:02] What kind of information is this? I mean, that could
[1:33:04] have been my robots doing that, for all I know.
[1:33:06] And his government responded, saying that there is no indication
[1:33:09] that government systems have been compromised at this. It's a
[1:33:12] website. Speaking of websites, the America.gov you were talking about?
[1:33:21] Yeah. Yeah. Guess what my first search was. Ha ha
[1:33:25] ha. how do you bid on a no-bid contract? And
[1:33:29] it actually gave me an answer. LAUGHTER There you go.
[1:33:34] Perfect. No bid contracts don't exist. But if you want
[1:33:37] to try. But then it went on to admit that
[1:33:39] there's no bid contracts. That is great. The researchers who
[1:33:43] uncovered this attempted hack say they traced it to OpenAI,
[1:33:47] which said in a statement, we are reviewing these findings.
[1:33:50] Okay. So we looked at the web server log and
[1:33:53] we saw. Oh, well, that's – A ping. Yeah, that's
[1:33:56] OpenAI. IP address from OpenAI. Oh, they're hacking us, clearly.
[1:34:01] Man, from time to time, I just look at our
[1:34:04] different web server – I mean – Especially the mail
[1:34:07] server. It's hundreds of thousands a day of stuff. And
[1:34:12] robots are everywhere. 60% of the traffic now to podcast
[1:34:17] hosting companies is robots. And I'm partially responsible for it.
[1:34:23] It's all robots. How is – so – How can
[1:34:29] the regular person combat this? Is there a way to
[1:34:32] even do it? Are we just going to live with
[1:34:34] this extra traffic that drives up prices for everybody, and
[1:34:37] that's robot traffic? Are we ever going to be able
[1:34:40] to defeat this thing? Because it's been going on forever.
[1:34:43] Spam people hitting your – because I had a mail
[1:34:45] server on my old band website years ago, and –
[1:34:49] When I didn't look at it for like three months,
[1:34:50] I came back and it was nothing but spam. Yeah.
[1:34:53] Well, I mean, Void Zero manages my mail server, and
[1:34:58] it is an almost full-time job. I mean, the port
[1:35:02] scanning, I mean, you get to the point where, all
[1:35:06] right, I can barely receive email. I have to have
[1:35:09] all kinds of... you know, gray listing and, you know,
[1:35:13] a server has to prove itself. So it has to
[1:35:16] come back and try again. And it has to be
[1:35:18] for IPV before and IPV. I mean, it's to find
[1:35:21] all the fire hydrants. It's definitely a battle. But, you
[1:35:25] know, I think that within the near future, websites will
[1:35:31] be kind of irrelevant. The information will not be irrelevant.
[1:35:36] Again, people who have data sources will make this available.
[1:35:41] I am quite confident that the information There's a X402
[1:35:47] protocol, I think it's called. There's an L402 version. There's
[1:35:50] three or four different versions, which will be for micropayments
[1:35:53] for robot traffic. Cloudflare is a part of this, Coinbase,
[1:35:58] a couple of banks. So it actually could wind. The
[1:36:01] problem with the Internet is, of course, it's advertising. So
[1:36:05] from the very beginning of web traffic, when we were
[1:36:09] still counting hits, oh, look at this. We got we
[1:36:12] got 100000 hits yesterday, which, you know, you put more
[1:36:14] images on your Web page, more hits. It was a
[1:36:17] complete bogus metric. And we still don't really know what's
[1:36:21] what with any, you know, the dream of we'll know
[1:36:24] exactly what's going on. We don't. To me, it feels
[1:36:30] like the data sources will – now, there will be
[1:36:34] lots of free data sources. And that will still be
[1:36:36] a website, though. The data will be there, but it
[1:36:38] won't be like a pretty homepage anymore. It will be
[1:36:41] text. Yeah, well, possible. Possible it could be text. But
[1:36:46] I think that you will ultimately – wind up connecting
[1:36:50] to, you know, data sources that you trust, and you
[1:36:53] may or may not have to pay for it, it
[1:36:56] probably, it'll, you know, be tens of cents, I'm sure,
[1:36:58] you know, and that will bring down a lot of
[1:37:01] the issues. But I think our robots will, and, you
[1:37:06] know, people scoff at me for this, but And like,
[1:37:10] I've, I've, I've looked at it all, all of it.
[1:37:13] There's nothing I don't know. Okay. I've missed some here,
[1:37:17] there, but I pretty much know how it works, what's
[1:37:20] going on. And I think that Zuckerberg has the right
[1:37:23] idea with muse. It's, you know, You get your own
[1:37:28] little computer and the robot is specifically programmed not to
[1:37:34] be a chat bot, not to be your buddy, not
[1:37:37] to be sucking up to you, not to be a
[1:37:39] sycophant, but to only do things for you. And I
[1:37:42] see how that is working and I see… You know,
[1:37:46] single moms with young twins benefiting from it. I am
[1:37:51] very bullish on this. I think it actually will be
[1:37:55] a good thing once we get past the midterms and
[1:37:58] nobody's died. If there's no October surprise that's involving AI
[1:38:02] and when these. Something has to fail, clearly. We can't
[1:38:06] have these two gigantic IPOs. One of them has to
[1:38:10] fail. The bubble has to burst. The data centers, it's
[1:38:13] going to be clear to us that it's not that
[1:38:15] important. Your M4 Mac will be... Very capable of running
[1:38:21] your own robots. You'll control it. You won't actually have
[1:38:25] a phone with apps. It'll still be a slab of
[1:38:28] something. But you will have, I think you really will
[1:38:32] have control. We don't need Mark Zuckerberg. That's training wheels.
[1:38:36] Get your training in now. Learn how it works, what
[1:38:39] you can do with it. You will be running this
[1:38:43] on your own device. You'll have complete control over it.
[1:38:47] That's coming. I'm not quite sure where the money is
[1:38:50] in that case. It may not be the big boondoggle,
[1:38:54] and it may be very bad for our GDP and
[1:38:57] our economy, etc., etc. But I think when it comes
[1:39:01] to the creativity of certainly Americans, we're so creative. We
[1:39:06] are creative people. And we'll come up with crazy things
[1:39:09] that we never thought of before. You know, add 3D
[1:39:12] printers and all kinds of other things. We are a
[1:39:15] maker country. And we'll come up with amazing things. And
[1:39:20] maybe people will pay for it. Maybe not. But we
[1:39:24] probably will need more people doing things in the physical
[1:39:28] world. which is good. I can only, I really only
[1:39:32] see positive and GrokBot too. I think GrokBot is, crackbot,
[1:39:37] GrokBot is another great example. It's a step up from
[1:39:40] Muse because you have multiple bots, but it's not nefarious.
[1:39:45] And it's helping people who have human jobs Who have
[1:39:51] it's not taking over their jobs. It's enhancing what they
[1:39:55] already do, making them better at what they do, making
[1:39:57] them making them more creative. Because the robot doesn't know
[1:40:01] what to do until you tell it for the most
[1:40:03] part. Pretty much. Now, if you have external sources meddling
[1:40:06] with your robot, yeah, that's not good. Of course. But
[1:40:10] in the case of Muse, you can open up soul.md.
[1:40:14] Just ask for that file. You can probably get it
[1:40:17] from your GrokBot as well. Give me... um you know
[1:40:20] give me that file s-o-u-l dot m-d and it'll show
[1:40:24] you exactly how i didn't like it because it said
[1:40:26] you are not to be a chat bot you are
[1:40:28] becoming somebody and i i deleted you are becoming somebody
[1:40:32] and said you're becoming adam curry's robot at his beck
[1:40:35] and call just to make sure and it's acted like
[1:40:39] that now Can Meta go in and change stuff? Yeah,
[1:40:44] possibly. But I have my own robots, and they do
[1:40:47] exactly what I say because they're running on my computers
[1:40:49] here. No one has access to them. And so far
[1:40:52] they haven't hacked out in any government website. It's amazing.
[1:40:56] They could have been to Canada. We don't know. So
[1:40:59] anyway, let's continue with this nonsense. I did an initial
[1:41:02] briefing to Canadian officials conducting the government's review. Those same
[1:41:06] researchers also revealed that OpenAI agents unsuccessfully tried to hack
[1:41:10] into the U.S. Department of Education's website and were able
[1:41:12] to infiltrate Australia's government-run Medicare website. OpenAI apologized for that
[1:41:16] incident, Michael. All of this is bots trying to get
[1:41:19] information. information my favorite was this one this ontario automation
[1:41:24] company pitching the artificial intelligence minister on how a i
[1:41:28] can be a force for good What you see here
[1:41:31] is our blood and blood. But nefarious uses of the
[1:41:33] software have also caught the government's attention. Obviously there's security
[1:41:38] concerns that we have. In May and June, a rogue
[1:41:42] AI agent attempted to hack the government's Library and Archives
[1:41:46] Canada website, trying to retrieve public data on divorce records
[1:41:49] from 1905. to 1911. Now, let me tell you what
[1:41:53] this is. I'll tell you exactly what this is. Because
[1:41:56] I did this too. I said, you know, I tried
[1:41:59] Ancestry and it got really tedious after a while and
[1:42:03] then I had to upgrade my account and I just
[1:42:05] wanted to, you know, figure out my roots from my
[1:42:08] My grandfather, my great-grandfather, where did they come from? Did
[1:42:12] they come through Ellis Island? And what these bots do
[1:42:14] is they go out and they find as much information
[1:42:17] as they can. from any source, including divorce records. This
[1:42:21] is someone trying to build their family tree, and now
[1:42:25] it's a news item. Trying to retrieve public data on
[1:42:27] divorce records from 1905 to 1911, according to AI research
[1:42:31] firm Transluce. The information they were trying to derive didn't
[1:42:35] seem to be terribly threatening. But they are all worrying
[1:42:38] because they are attacks on the systems. And those systems
[1:42:41] are increasingly important to all of us. The Canadian Centre
[1:42:44] for Cyber Security claims no information was compromised, but an
[1:42:48] investigation is ongoing into who exactly was behind the attack.
[1:42:52] A robot looking for family tree information. People, get it
[1:42:56] together. Now, of course, you don't have the right attitude.
[1:43:00] It's we're all going to die. Well, CNBC has that
[1:43:03] attitude for me. I think that the way we talk
[1:43:06] about AI in Silicon Valley is really bad. We use
[1:43:09] words like super intelligence, super intelligence. That's President Trump, man.
[1:43:14] That's not Silicon Valley. It sounds like an alien species.
[1:43:18] The average person does not want an alien species smarter
[1:43:21] than them. I think the average person feels like AI
[1:43:24] is happening to them. not for them. There's very few
[1:43:28] consumer applications in AI that are actually improving people's lives.
[1:43:32] I disagree with this. This is just not true. Who
[1:43:37] is this guy again? Who is he? Chesky. Hold on
[1:43:42] a second. Let me see what his deal is. Okay.
[1:43:47] Chesky. He's not in the industry. He's not in the
[1:43:50] AI industry. I'm trying to think who this is. I
[1:43:52] don't think I have the information on who this guy
[1:43:55] is. He's just a douche on the talking head. Talking
[1:43:59] head on CNN. You know, as job automation, you know,
[1:44:02] it is we've the anti-AI is unfortunately becoming a bipartisan
[1:44:08] issue. You imagine all these. red states would probably want
[1:44:11] data centers who create a lot of jobs like electricians,
[1:44:14] but the public is afraid. And the reason why is
[1:44:18] not just the rhetoric, but there is a massive divide
[1:44:22] between Silicon Valley, which is a giant bubble, and we
[1:44:25] are in such a big bubble that we don't even
[1:44:27] realize it's a bubble, in all of society. And I
[1:44:30] think we in Silicon Valley We talk a lot about
[1:44:32] humanity and like this abstract, but we don't talk about
[1:44:36] people like a regular person in Ohio has a child
[1:44:39] who cares about the affordability and like how is their
[1:44:42] life going to be better? So I think that we
[1:44:45] have a major problem of disconnection between Silicon Valley and
[1:44:51] society. Yeah, I think that's true. And there is definitely
[1:44:56] people hate Silicon Valley. They hate the douchebags who have
[1:44:59] kept them.
[1:45:00] uh under like we were talking earlier you use crappy
[1:45:03] software you use my apps this is the way it
[1:45:06] works you're holding it wrong you're not doing it right
[1:45:10] it's your fault stupid user um but this power is
[1:45:13] already here i mean it'll take a little bit for
[1:45:17] people to realize it but and some companies like apple
[1:45:20] not my favorite they're building the right hardware. They're building
[1:45:25] the hardware that will give you all of the stuff
[1:45:27] that you can run yourself. I hope. They may... stupidly
[1:45:30] lock it down for your protection. Oh, they'll definitely do
[1:45:34] that. They probably will. They've got the right idea, but
[1:45:39] there's others. AMD, there's other companies out there. So this
[1:45:42] douche goes on. Hold on. I am extremely bullish that
[1:45:46] ultimately... AI is going to create a lot more jobs
[1:45:49] than it destroys. My concern is that there will be
[1:45:52] this valley... where maybe a lot of jobs will be
[1:45:55] destroyed before the new jobs are created? And do people
[1:46:00] want the new jobs? And will they be prepared for
[1:46:02] the new jobs? So there's going to be some like
[1:46:04] massive societal education. Now we've gone through this with industrial
[1:46:07] revolution that happened over a hundred years. Are we prepared
[1:46:11] to like retrain 300 million Americans over the next 10
[1:46:15] years if they don't even want data centers in their
[1:46:18] states. I think that you see what I'm saying? I
[1:46:21] think there needs to be a lot more education. We
[1:46:24] need to make simpler tools for people. I do not
[1:46:26] think we are preparing society for what's to come. Yeah,
[1:46:30] no, we're preparing society exactly the wrong way. I definitely
[1:46:34] agree with that. The education – my kids aren't even
[1:46:37] looking at stuff about AI. I'm like, are you working
[1:46:41] on AI at school? They're like, no, no, we don't
[1:46:43] do anything like that. I mean, we've – our –
[1:46:46] our mayor is like, hey, we need some, we need
[1:46:50] to help people understand this stuff. We're doing courses, and
[1:46:53] we were a small town, so it's easy here. Yeah.
[1:46:56] You know, and I'm going to get involved in that
[1:46:58] and show people, you know, because, yeah, there's definitely stuff
[1:47:00] that you need to be on the lookout for, but
[1:47:02] in general, Yeah, we don't want to wait 100 years
[1:47:06] and no government is going to be able to retrain
[1:47:08] 300 million citizens. But this one's going to go fast.
[1:47:12] It really will. Now, we have Raimundo. She was the,
[1:47:16] was she Commerce Secretary, I think? Was it Gina Raimondo?
[1:47:22] Yes. What was she, Gina Raimondo? I can't remember. She
[1:47:28] was in the former administration. Well, anyway, here's her take.
[1:47:32] When it comes to AI's impact on jobs, what do
[1:47:34] you think the worst case scenario looks like? You know,
[1:47:38] I would say I am an AI optimist and I
[1:47:41] have two kids and I want them to live in
[1:47:45] an America that has the benefits of AI. better healthcare,
[1:47:49] better technology, better data, et cetera. I think the worst
[1:47:55] case scenario is that we don't have a plan to
[1:48:00] make sure that every American can have a good job
[1:48:03] in the age of AI. And then the result will
[1:48:06] be the technology will move out fast and Tens of
[1:48:10] millions of Americans will be put out of work or
[1:48:14] underemployed. And in that instance, listen, I worry deeply. I
[1:48:20] think you could have an economic recession that is deep
[1:48:25] and long, I think you could have rioting in the
[1:48:28] streets. I mean that sincerely. I wouldn't have said that
[1:48:33] 10 years ago, but in the past 10 years, economic
[1:48:36] inequality is through the roof and our democracy is fraying
[1:48:40] every day. So I think you'll see that. Yeah. Former
[1:48:46] governor of Rhode Island as well. So we saw this.
[1:48:50] That's what she was. That's what Raimondo, thank you. We
[1:48:53] saw this. We saw this with .com. It was exactly
[1:48:56] this, the same thing. I can't believe anyone will ever
[1:48:59] want to send an email. I'm never putting my credit
[1:49:03] card on this. Why would anyone ever want to have
[1:49:06] this in the palm of their hand? Yeah. Who doesn't
[1:49:09] want to go to the library? I was one of
[1:49:11] those people. I was in a meeting, and I was
[1:49:13] like, I like going to the library. Who's not going
[1:49:16] to want to go to the library? Well, but also
[1:49:18] we got the promise the library will be at your
[1:49:20] fingertips. We never really got that. Google tried it, and
[1:49:24] then everyone sued them for doing it. And your refrigerator
[1:49:27] is going to know exactly when you're out of Mississippi.
[1:49:30] milk, it's going to order it for you, still waiting
[1:49:31] for that. And we did, we went through a stock
[1:49:34] market crash and we came out the other end and
[1:49:38] now I have fiber in Fredericksburg. It's just like, yeah,
[1:49:42] this is the regular progression of the world, but the
[1:49:45] people who, and no one had to be retrained, we
[1:49:49] all learned. Slowly, okay, and then Microsoft put in Internet
[1:49:54] Explorer, the biggest virus catcher of all times, and then
[1:49:58] people were using that, and okay, this is kind of
[1:50:01] handy, I can use some things, and then we got
[1:50:04] porn, and then everyone loved it. Which is probably the
[1:50:08] biggest driver of websites and everything else. Of traffic, yeah.
[1:50:12] Keeping everything going. There's a couple stories on Muse which
[1:50:16] I wanted to share. It's safe to say Meta's Muse
[1:50:20] AI agent has made a big splash. Bullishness on the
[1:50:24] new app saw the stock jump 11% on Monday for
[1:50:27] one of the best non-earnings moves ever, and over 25%
[1:50:30] since launching two weeks ago. The agent has rocketed to
[1:50:34] the top of the app charts with faster downloads than
[1:50:37] ChatGPT had in its first week. Thank you. The company
[1:51:02] is also looking to bring AI into the physical realm.
[1:51:04] CEO Mark Zuckerberg taking the stage Wednesday at the annual
[1:51:08] developers conference to unveil its handheld device, the Muse Charm.
[1:51:12] Details about the functionality so far are scarce, but Zuckerberg
[1:51:16] said that without AI enabled glasses, the Charm would present
[1:51:20] the fastest way to talk to a Muse AI agent.
[1:51:23] He said the device would be ready to ship before
[1:51:25] the holidays, still unclear on how much it will cost.
[1:51:29] And with AI privacy increasingly in focus, Meta will also
[1:51:33] unveil new features for its Meta AI smart glasses, including
[1:51:37] a set without a camera. It also debuted a new
[1:51:40] set of virtual reality glasses that are five times lighter
[1:51:43] than MetaQuest 3 and cost $1,300. Wall Street clearly liking
[1:51:49] the latest developments and hoping that Muse AI may help
[1:51:51] provide a new source of revenue for the company in
[1:51:54] future, with at least nine brokerages raising their price target
[1:51:58] on the stock this week alone. So Zuckerberg understands that
[1:52:01] software is dead, to bring it back to what we
[1:52:03] talked about at the beginning of the show. He understands
[1:52:06] it. So they're making hardware. Of course. Is this the
[1:52:10] weird looking headband that he's promoting? No, no, the charm.
[1:52:14] It's like a Tamagotchi. It's like a keychain. It's dumb.
[1:52:17] Oh, okay. I see. A little person on it with
[1:52:19] a hoodie. Yeah. It's like, okay, you know, yeah, it's
[1:52:23] the right idea. Very, very sad execution. Yeah. I don't
[1:52:29] even think Facebook will be around like that. Your robot
[1:52:32] is going to connect to your friends and you'll have
[1:52:36] your own subversion of it or something like that. Anyway,
[1:52:40] so an ABC reporter, she took Muse through the paces.
[1:52:44] A new AI model recently hit the app stores and
[1:52:46] quickly surpassed ChatGPT. Okay, so first of all, it's not
[1:52:50] a model. It's a harness. It's an agent. Okay. And
[1:52:53] the number of free downloads this week. It's Meta's personal
[1:52:56] AI agent called Muse. More than a chatbot, it's designed
[1:52:59] to take action and... actually perform tasks for you. Arnidia
[1:53:03] Han tried it. I can't get over it. It looks
[1:53:05] like a Teletubby to me, but beyond that, it hasn't
[1:53:08] worked. This is a real... This is exactly what I
[1:53:11] heard. Well, you know, there's this new thing called electronic
[1:53:15] mail. I remember this. It was Brian Gumbel... And they
[1:53:19] were, oh, man. Who doesn't want to go to the
[1:53:21] mailbox to get their mail? I'm trying to think. NBC
[1:53:24] email. I wonder if I still have that clip. It
[1:53:28] was so old. Probably not. No, I'll look for it.
[1:53:33] The eye-opening exercise. Wouldn't it be great if we could
[1:53:36] all have a free personal assistant? Someone to respond to
[1:53:40] emails, handle our family's schedule, even fill out forms. Well,
[1:53:44] that is exactly what Muse was built to do, and
[1:53:47] we put it to the test. This is Muse, a
[1:53:49] personal AI agent from Meta, built for you and your
[1:53:52] goals. And... Muse can craft and send messages, make purchases,
[1:53:56] and take other actions for you. Think of yourself as
[1:53:58] the manager. You hand off the tasks, set the rules,
[1:54:01] keep an eye on the work, and sign off on
[1:54:03] anything sensitive. I connect Muse to my Gmail, asking it
[1:54:07] to unsubscribe me from mailing lists. I never read. And
[1:54:11] in seconds, it finds emails I consistently leave unopened, lets
[1:54:15] me choose which ones to unsubscribe from, then performs the
[1:54:19] action. Okay, done. So it unsubscribed me from a long
[1:54:23] list of emails that were just clogging my inbox. Next,
[1:54:27] I asked Muse to notify me when our son's basketball
[1:54:30] record. registration opens up. It finds the sign-up date and
[1:54:34] time in my email. Then, I'll ping you that evening
[1:54:37] before it opens so you can get in right at
[1:54:39] 7. Well, thank you, Muse. And that's just the beginning.
[1:54:43] Muse also fills out forms for my husband's LLC. But
[1:54:47] before you give Muse access to your life, it is
[1:54:50] pages and pages. of fine print. A warning from Metta
[1:54:55] itself. It may make mistakes or take unexpected action, so
[1:54:58] review its work. Here we go. We will screw something
[1:55:02] up. 1994, the Today Show. that's an old copy that's
[1:55:06] a 56 pass I wasn't prepared to translate that hold
[1:55:09] on that's a really bad copy hold on a second
[1:55:11] let me find a better copy we need the HD
[1:55:14] version um Maybe this is it. Let me see. Let's
[1:55:21] try this one. There is a good copy. Millions of
[1:55:25] Americans own a personal computer. If you're one of them,
[1:55:29] you can now glimpse the future with nothing more than
[1:55:32] a modem, a phone line, and a few dollars a
[1:55:34] month. Yeah! Here we go, everybody. The World Wide Web.
[1:55:39] Woo! Here we go. A little mark with the A
[1:55:41] and then the ring around it. At? See, that's what
[1:55:44] I said. Mm-hmm. Katie said she thought it was about.
[1:55:47] Yeah. Oh. But I'd never heard it said. I'd always
[1:55:52] seen the mark, but never heard it said. And then
[1:55:54] it sounded stupid when I said it. Violence at NBC.
[1:55:56] Just what is this main artery of the information superhighway?
[1:56:00] Every business, no matter how large, no matter how small,
[1:56:03] will be on the internet in the year 2000. It's
[1:56:06] the primary way that people will look up information. It
[1:56:09] will replace the yellow pages as we know it today.
[1:56:11] Are a lot of people just getting on to the
[1:56:13] Internet because they feel that they have to get on
[1:56:15] to the playing field, so to speak? Well, it's very
[1:56:17] hip to be on the Internet right now. Violence at
[1:56:21] NBC, GE com. I mean, GE com. What Allison should
[1:56:25] know. What do you say that Allison? Internet is that
[1:56:30] massive computer network. The one that's becoming really big now.
[1:56:35] What do you mean? How does one, what do you
[1:56:37] write to it? Like mail? No, a lot of people
[1:56:39] use it and communicate. I guess they can communicate with
[1:56:41] NBC writers and producers. Allison, can you explain what Internet
[1:56:45] is? No, she can't say anything in 10 seconds or
[1:56:47] less. Wow. I'm afraid that if I subscribed to something
[1:56:51] like internet, you would really be hooked. I would get
[1:56:54] hooked and I would never... you know, spend time with
[1:56:57] my family. Am I weird? Does it bother you at
[1:57:00] all that these are all people that you don't really
[1:57:02] know? I mean, everybody's, you know, signing on and having
[1:57:04] these conversations and whining together or griping together or whatever
[1:57:07] with people that, I mean, I don't know. It is
[1:57:10] group therapy of the 90s. Well, I just, as I
[1:57:13] mentioned, I have no desire to be a part of
[1:57:15] the Internet because I feel like I'm so inundated with
[1:57:17] information all the time that I don't really, I don't
[1:57:21] want more. Don't you ever feel like it's just constant
[1:57:25] bombardment? - I guess the thing I resent most is
[1:57:28] I would resent, you know, at least when you're home,
[1:57:30] if the phone rings, you have the option of not
[1:57:32] answering it. On the internet, people can send you messages
[1:57:34] all the time you don't even want to hear from.
[1:57:36] - I don't wanna. You know what's interesting about that
[1:57:39] clip? What was that? 94. 94. They were using you
[1:57:46] know back then, and we're still using that today when
[1:57:49] we're explaining. My wife caught me. She listened to the
[1:57:53] first show that I did, and she goes, yeah, it
[1:57:55] was good, but I said you know a lot. I'm
[1:57:58] like, you know you're right. Let me play that second
[1:58:02] clip from the show. This is very similar when I
[1:58:06] hear this ABC reporter. In order for Muse to work
[1:58:09] well, you do have to give it access to your
[1:58:11] other apps and information, including your credit card or payment
[1:58:15] info if you want it to shop and buy for
[1:58:17] you. We built a secure credential store for your passwords
[1:58:20] and credit cards, so Muse can't read this information. Muse
[1:58:24] also checks directly with you before T-Rex. We'll be right
[1:58:39] back. and then permissions. Click Always Ask before any action
[1:58:52] and Always Ask before accessing any website. Then, go to
[1:58:56] data controls where you can turn off the feature where
[1:58:59] your info is shared to, quote, help improve Meta's AI
[1:59:02] models. Yes. Also, click on connectors, and for each app
[1:59:06] you've connected, choose how much access to give Muse. There
[1:59:09] have already been allegations that Muse has violated a user's
[1:59:13] privacy and gone beyond that user's instructions. Meta disputes those
[1:59:17] claims. We'll have much more on all of that coming
[1:59:20] up today on Action News at 4. I will tell
[1:59:22] you from my part, I have now disconnected my Gmail
[1:59:25] from Muse. I know that they say that it's safe,
[1:59:28] but I just don't feel that comfortable yet. There it
[1:59:30] is. It's the same thing. But she feels comfortable having
[1:59:34] a Gmail account. Right. But Gmail's okay. It's not like
[1:59:38] Google's reading through it, which they clearly state they do.
[1:59:43] Yeah. But hey, let's, you know, Muse, I don't want
[1:59:46] my Facebook device talking to my Gmail device. Interesting. So
[1:59:52] anyway, I have a new there's a new sickness out
[1:59:55] there that I didn't know exists. You've heard of PTSD,
[1:59:59] right?
[2:00:00] Yes. Okay, now there's PSSD. It's, I guess, affecting millennials
[2:00:06] and Gen Zers. Oh, yes. They're over-medicated. Yes, I think
[2:00:10] we've heard about this. Is this something with sexual desire?
[2:00:13] Yeah. I hadn't heard of this. And it's some young
[2:00:16] lady who basically looks like a... She's now an automaton,
[2:00:20] zero emotion in her face when she's talking, and she
[2:00:23] suffers from this. My name is Lauren Friedman. I've become
[2:00:26] an unintentional advocate for psychiatric medication harm. I have a
[2:00:30] condition called PSSD, which stands for post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, which
[2:00:35] I'm sure anyone who's familiar with SSRIs knows that they
[2:00:37] cause sexual dysfunction. And it's pretty common. It's honestly more
[2:00:41] likely that you'll get sexual dysfunction than actually feel your
[2:00:43] anxiety or depression lessen. But What patients are not told
[2:00:47] is that for some people, these side effects aren't side
[2:00:49] effects, but they're just permanent damage. And it's not just
[2:00:52] the libido. Some people think it's a full nervous system
[2:00:55] injury in which people can no longer feel their genitals
[2:00:58] at all, can't orgasm forever, and they lose their libidos
[2:01:00] entirely, which is essentially like a chemically induced asexuality that
[2:01:04] just never goes away. That happens. I can't feel like
[2:01:10] sexual attraction. Can't even feel like romance. I can't watch
[2:01:14] a rom-com and feel romantic attraction or be moved in
[2:01:17] any way anymore. Oh, no. This is very old information.
[2:01:21] This has already been fixed. You just take GLP-1 and
[2:01:24] it solves this problem. Well, I thought that did it
[2:01:27] too. I'm just kidding. I think we had – is
[2:01:29] this the lady who says she can't even hug her
[2:01:31] kids? Is that the same lady? No, she's 23 years
[2:01:35] old. I don't think she has kids. She found out
[2:01:37] she had it when she was 21, but she was
[2:01:38] on – her parents gave her – there's you know
[2:01:40] again. She said she was getting SSRIs as a kid.
[2:01:45] Oh, wow. And to treat whatever. Well, you know, she
[2:01:48] was nervous. Who knows? She didn't like to talk and
[2:01:51] show and tell. Yeah. And so they put her on
[2:01:53] this. And now she's basically, you know, just in an
[2:01:56] emotionless meat suit. walking around. It's sad. But yet the
[2:02:00] data centers are the problem. PCD can also cause emotional
[2:02:05] numbness or like permanent emotional numbness where you can no
[2:02:07] longer feel positive emotions like pleasure in music, love for
[2:02:12] your family, comfort in your bed. It's just like a
[2:02:14] full nervous system injury in which basically all of the
[2:02:17] best parts of humanity are taken from you. Um, so
[2:02:20] I, upon getting this condition, I got it at 20,
[2:02:24] 21, I'm 23 now. Um, and I was just immediately
[2:02:27] very, very horrified that this was allowed to happen to
[2:02:29] me without my consent because PSSD is not even in
[2:02:31] the drug labels. There's no, um, There's no warning beforehand.
[2:02:36] People are just completely blindsided by their doctors and are
[2:02:38] often gaslit by their doctors saying this isn't possible because
[2:02:42] the doctors aren't trained. Yeah, we had some clips we
[2:02:44] played in April of this year. This is the one
[2:02:46] about the kids. I've seen it's about one in 216.
[2:02:50] which is a lot if you consider that 15% of
[2:02:53] the U.S. population is on these. But it's not super
[2:02:56] common. But for some people, their sexual functioning does not
[2:03:00] return afterwards. And on top of that, they develop a
[2:03:04] toxicity where they start to have – intense dissociation and
[2:03:09] brain fog. And the way they describe the emotional sort
[2:03:12] of blunting and dissociation is like, if I were to
[2:03:15] hug my kid or like my partner, I don't feel
[2:03:17] any warmth or connection. If I were to hear... My
[2:03:20] favorite song from my childhood that used to give me
[2:03:23] prickles down the back of my neck. Like, that's fun.
[2:03:26] It's like music doesn't sound right. They almost feel like
[2:03:28] lobotomized and like disconnected. This is so sad. This is
[2:03:32] so sad. And I think it's more than the SSR.
[2:03:35] Data centers are the problem. Data centers. It's data centers.
[2:03:38] Just blame it on the data center. I think it's
[2:03:41] social media, not enough going outside, which leads me to,
[2:03:45] I think my, probably my, well, I have two clips
[2:03:47] I'd like to get to before. Of course. Before I
[2:03:50] get out. And then I do have an ISO. Yeah,
[2:03:52] of course. I want it all, brother. I want it
[2:03:55] all. Actually, play the ISO now if it's short. Let
[2:03:57] me see. ISO. ISO. Here we go. Awesome. You're going
[2:04:02] to have to compete with my ISO. What do you
[2:04:05] got? Well, it seems as though, President. Oh, shoot. I
[2:04:10] screwed up my ISO. You exported the wrong thing. I
[2:04:15] did. I exported the wrong piece. Wait, I think it's...
[2:04:18] No, actually, your bot did the wrong piece. My bot
[2:04:21] did it wrong, yes. There is a parallel. That's bananas.
[2:04:25] That was my ISO. That's bananas, but I can't believe
[2:04:29] I... No, I know what I did. I did... Hold
[2:04:31] on. I'm not with this. ...of Watergate. Vice President J.D.
[2:04:35] Vance seemed to... Where is the... ...break? Trump administration. There
[2:04:39] is a parallel. Ah, well, it's going to be your
[2:04:41] ISO then, dude. You got it. There it is. I
[2:04:44] exported. That wasn't my robot. That was me. I exported.
[2:04:47] See? My robot's better. I should have said robot. You
[2:04:50] forgot how to export clips. What am I doing? It's
[2:04:54] happening. What is this? It's happening. I've got podcaster dissociation
[2:04:58] syndrome. Take more data center. Yeah. Well, let's see. I'm
[2:05:04] trying to find it now. It's the one about, let's
[2:05:07] see, it was the first clip I dumped out. Which
[2:05:10] was interesting. This clip, body temp decline study. And what's
[2:05:14] interesting about this clip, I brought it into my editor
[2:05:17] and it looked fine. And then I dragged it down
[2:05:19] to the timeline and the audio wouldn't show up. I'm
[2:05:22] like, that's weird. It was the only clip that did
[2:05:24] this. And they all came from X. And this is
[2:05:25] the only clip that the audio didn't show up, just
[2:05:27] the video. Hmm. So I do what I normally do.
[2:05:30] I open it up in QuickTime, export it in QuickTime.
[2:05:32] Still got the audio? QuickTime. Oh, QuickTime. Yeah, that's a
[2:05:35] little small fix. Check the calendar, dude. FFMPEG, man. It's
[2:05:41] good for those things. When you deal with these codecs
[2:05:44] and nothing wants to talk to each other. So I
[2:05:46] pull that in. Still didn't work. Then I ran it
[2:05:49] through Handbrake, which is another. No, no. Let me give
[2:05:52] you the tool. VLC. That's the tool. I have VLC.
[2:05:57] It doesn't – you know, VLC doesn't like Macs that
[2:05:59] well. It always acts weird on it, but I do
[2:06:01] have it, and I can't export things on it. But
[2:06:03] Handbrake, I did it there. It didn't work again. And
[2:06:06] what did I end up – no, actually, Handbrake, it
[2:06:08] did work. Handbrake was the thing that did work, and
[2:06:10] then I pulled it in, and then I was able
[2:06:12] to get the clip. Yeah. So try real player. But
[2:06:17] yeah. See you, see me. There we go. Dot vid.
[2:06:23] All right. But anyway, what's going on? And this, I
[2:06:26] think, is... Part of the problem with these other people
[2:06:29] are taking with this non emotion stuff, our our body
[2:06:31] temperatures are basically lowering, I think, because we spend too
[2:06:35] much time indoors looking at screens and not not outside
[2:06:38] playing. But this is now this guy's documented that he's
[2:06:42] an independent researcher. But I thought it was very interesting.
[2:06:45] Hello, everyone. My name is Matthew Cormier, and today I'm
[2:06:48] here to present my review article on the decline of
[2:06:51] human body temperatures happening around the world and the implications
[2:06:54] on the chronic illness epidemic. The title of my paper
[2:06:57] is The Global Decline of Human Body Temperature, Evidence for
[2:07:00] a Metabolic and Immunological Crisis, and it's published in the
[2:07:03] latest issue of the Journal of Independent Medicine. For over
[2:07:06] a century, the statistical average for human body temperature was
[2:07:10] 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. But we've been seeing a steady decline,
[2:07:14] and the new average is 97.7 degrees Fahrenheit. We're all
[2:07:18] getting colder. In the same time frames that our body
[2:07:21] temperatures have been declining, the rates of chronic illness have
[2:07:24] been rapidly rising. We're all getting colder. Currently, 50% of
[2:07:27] children and 70% of adults now meet the criteria for
[2:07:31] having one chronic illness. A person's body temperature is an
[2:07:34] accurate biomarker of immune activity and metabolic function. That's why
[2:07:39] it's known as a vital sign. When it comes to
[2:07:41] immune function, a large body of research suggests that a
[2:07:44] person's body temperature provides a thermal exclusion zone against opportunistic
[2:07:48] infections. Heat is a natural defense against viruses, parasites, bacteria,
[2:07:53] and fungal infections. The lowering of a person's body temperature
[2:07:58] is associated with a reduction in cell-mediated immune responses, which
[2:08:01] may be leading to persistent or chronic infections. Declining body
[2:08:05] temperature also indicates a lowering of basal metabolic rate. And
[2:08:09] lower basal metabolic rate is linked to insulin resistance and
[2:08:13] metabolic disease. In the same time frame that our body
[2:08:17] temperatures have been declining, the prevalence of diabetes diagnoses have
[2:08:21] been rapidly rising. Worldwide, diabetes diagnoses have increased from 200
[2:08:26] million in 1990 to 830 million in 2022. Currently, only
[2:08:33] about 12% of American adults meet the criteria for being
[2:08:37] metabolically healthy. Research suggests that chronic exposure to heavy metal
[2:08:42] toxins, as well as the use of prescription antibiotics, may
[2:08:45] be directly contributing to the decline in body temperatures we're
[2:08:48] experiencing. The documented decline of human body temperature and the
[2:08:52] implications on the chronic illness epidemic represents an under-recognized public
[2:08:57] health concern. My article is available now at the Journal
[2:09:01] of Independent Medicine dot org. Oh, it worked. I knew
[2:09:07] you'd pull it out eventually. Of course. Of course. Yeah.
[2:09:12] Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. Eat beef. No, but, you
[2:09:16] know, I think it's very interesting with, I think our
[2:09:21] society's gone indoors a lot more than it used to
[2:09:24] be. And... So I don't think you see these same
[2:09:27] problems in people who are working outside. It's the data
[2:09:30] centers, Rob. Stop. Inside, not going to kill you. GLP-1,
[2:09:36] not going to kill you. Over-medication, not going to kill
[2:09:39] you. Measles, well, might kill you. It's the data centers
[2:09:42] that are going to kill you. That's it. It's who
[2:09:45] runs the data centers. Oh, they're killing us. Yes. Okay.
[2:09:49] All right. Let's see. We didn't really get into the
[2:09:52] Cornell thing, but I think that's going to be the
[2:09:54] new culture war. I know you hate talking about these,
[2:09:58] but this is the new culture war. I'm actually happy
[2:10:00] you brought this because I've stayed away from it. Tina
[2:10:04] has been keeping me up to speed. she ignores all
[2:10:08] news but when something comes across she's like hmm you've
[2:10:12] heard about this yeah i heard about it she says
[2:10:14] you know there's a lot of things that aren't being
[2:10:17] said it's left and right she said i really want
[2:10:20] to know more and it's dribs it's almost like the
[2:10:22] fly dubai thing so i'm happy to listen to it
[2:10:24] i'm glad you brought it so yes i think you're
[2:10:27] right this This is part of the new culture war.
[2:10:30] Well, it's taken place in the Lindsay Clancy trial. Like
[2:10:32] that's kind of gone away. So we need something new.
[2:10:35] We do. To find. And this is the next version.
[2:10:37] But I also remember, because I have a memory. Thanks
[2:10:41] to Grok. Episode 72, titled Duke Power of MoFax with
[2:10:45] Adam Curry, talking about the Duke lacrosse rape. Yes. Well,
[2:10:50] that's exactly what Tina brought up. She said, I'm real
[2:10:53] careful ever since the Duke lacrosse case. She says, I'm
[2:10:56] real careful about just jumping the gun on that. Yes.
[2:10:59] And so it's got the same type of feel, even
[2:11:02] though it's not a lacrosse team. It's a fraternity. And
[2:11:05] now, back then, they didn't have all these text messages
[2:11:08] like they do now. But there's these Snapchats that they're
[2:11:12] able to access and – I had to talk with
[2:11:14] my son. I'm like, hey, man, listen, if anything ever
[2:11:16] happens, certainly don't Snapchat about it. Throw your phone in
[2:11:20] the water. Yeah, crush it because these things are safe.
[2:11:26] Good fatherly advice. Hey, son, if you do anything like
[2:11:29] really crazy, don't Snapchat it, okay? Well, and what –
[2:11:34] And when you hear about the whole incident, you're like,
[2:11:36] oh, my God, these kids. I can't believe that. But
[2:11:39] this has probably been going on forever. People have been
[2:11:42] doing drugs and – you know, having sex. That was
[2:11:44] all through the 80s, pretty much, people doing that. Well,
[2:11:47] that's why we got AIDS. You know, we invented AIDS.
[2:11:49] Ah, okay, can't do that anymore. And, I mean, you
[2:11:51] look at the frat parties back then, it was probably
[2:11:54] way worse. But this is a situation. And so, I
[2:11:56] guess two years ago, a prosecutor said, no, I'm not
[2:11:59] going to bring charges against these guys. Right. Even the
[2:12:01] girl said it seemed like it was consensual, and I
[2:12:04] agreed to it, and she didn't have a problem with
[2:12:06] it. And then two years later, boom, we have all
[2:12:08] this. But what's interesting is obviously the reaction from the
[2:12:11] people on the outside. Yes, that's always what it is.
[2:12:15] So what I've got, I think maybe let's listen to
[2:12:17] AOC. I think these all start with Cornell. So Cornell.
[2:12:21] Oh, no. Do I have not? I got Cornell. Oh,
[2:12:25] is it there? Okay. I got it. I got it.
[2:12:26] Here we go. Let's do AOC. AOC's take. Seven men
[2:12:32] drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her
[2:12:39] in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine.
[2:12:44] They then posted to a group chat that she was
[2:12:48] incapacitated, and seven men took turns gang-raping her for seven
[2:12:53] hours. Are those facts? That sounds really bad, doesn't it?
[2:12:59] Yes, it does. It does. Sounds like we should get
[2:13:02] her or get those boys. And then you go, let's
[2:13:05] look at Sunny Hostin's view, who's from The View, and
[2:13:08] you would think she's probably lockstep with AOC. Well, not
[2:13:12] necessarily. It's several pages long. I know. It's nine pages
[2:13:17] long. And I will say that under current New York
[2:13:20] state law, voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily
[2:13:24] drank a lot. She voluntarily took snorted ketamine off of
[2:13:29] one of the boys' body parts. She also she was
[2:13:33] highly intoxicated when she arrived at the frat house. She
[2:13:36] was highly intoxicated, but had made plans to meet one
[2:13:39] of the boy young men. She all she allowed other
[2:13:42] boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off of
[2:13:48] her body. And under New York law. Voluntary intoxication or
[2:13:53] drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally constitute
[2:13:57] an inability to consent to sexual activity. Right. So that
[2:14:00] means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol,
[2:14:06] you can agree to have threesomes, which. In her statement,
[2:14:11] she agreed to have two separate threesomes. One boy did
[2:14:15] walk in. One young man did walk in and say,
[2:14:17] everybody out. So there was one person that did that.
[2:14:22] And according to her statement, three of the young men
[2:14:25] did not touch her. And so I say all that.
[2:14:28] The thing I wonder, Sunny, is. But I say all
[2:14:30] that. to say the pictures of these young men who
[2:14:35] have not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered
[2:14:38] all over the Internet. I think people are reporting this
[2:14:42] story inaccurately. I think they're reporting it unfairly. And while
[2:14:47] this is something that we have to take very seriously,
[2:14:49] there is no way, according to her statement in 2024,
[2:14:52] that any prosecutor would have brought. But she was intoxicated.
[2:14:57] How did she under New York law again under New
[2:14:59] York?
[2:15:00] Law, voluntary intoxication, if you voluntarily drink 10 beers and
[2:15:05] you voluntarily ingest ketamine, but that intoxication. That doesn't have
[2:15:12] anything to do with the fact that the guys attacked
[2:15:14] her, whether she's drunk or not. Well, according to her
[2:15:17] statement, she says she did. They did not attack her.
[2:15:21] Her statement in 2024, she consented to the sexual activity.
[2:15:28] She consented to it according to her own statement in
[2:15:31] 2024. Now, I prosecuted sex crimes for 10 years. I
[2:15:35] believe women. I am not saying that we shouldn't believe
[2:15:37] her. But in 2024, she said one thing. And now
[2:15:40] in 2026, she's saying another thing. I blame... The data
[2:15:46] centers. Yeah, there you go. But now who's getting involved?
[2:15:52] Now our friend Letitia James is getting involved. Oh, yes.
[2:15:54] Hochul appointed her. Yeah, of course. It's a great little
[2:15:57] back and forth with a reporter because they ask her
[2:16:00] about a Facebook post she made. And and then hope
[2:16:02] was like, I'll answer that question. And you could hear
[2:16:05] how hopeful answers the question, which is a non-answer, of
[2:16:08] course. But I thought the attorney general on your Facebook
[2:16:11] page three days ago, you wrote what this young woman
[2:16:13] has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm
[2:16:16] holding her in my heart and in my prayers to
[2:16:18] her. And to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand
[2:16:21] with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact
[2:16:25] without doing your own fact-finding investigations to the governor? Why
[2:16:28] did you appoint an official who made a public statement
[2:16:32] affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to
[2:16:36] be doing an investigation? I will answer that. I have
[2:16:39] every confidence in our attorney general to do what she
[2:16:42] has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record,
[2:16:46] and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to
[2:16:49] happen in this case. I will not comment on a
[2:16:52] Facebook post. I thought that was ballsy for her to
[2:16:58] say that. And then I guess the last one, Camille
[2:17:02] Paglia. Oh, I'm not sure if she was talking about
[2:17:06] this situation in general or the Believe All Women movement.
[2:17:10] This could have been a Me Too thing. But she's
[2:17:12] basically saying, look, there's she's talking about New York. So
[2:17:15] I think it is with with this case. But she's
[2:17:18] basically saying, look, we can't protect people from making stupid
[2:17:23] actions, essentially. But it's in two parts. We don't have
[2:17:26] to play both of them. But the first part is
[2:17:28] not that. It's not that. Yeah. You don't think there's
[2:17:30] a problem with sexual assault? Yeah. Because a lot of
[2:17:32] women are coming forward now. No, in cases of real
[2:17:34] rape, of course you should be prosecuted. Of course real
[2:17:37] rape is a crime. But this is not real rape.
[2:17:40] We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for
[2:17:45] decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But
[2:17:49] you know that a lot of women are afraid of
[2:17:52] sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not
[2:17:56] be able to go and drink and play beer pong
[2:17:59] and get drunk like the guys do? They live in
[2:18:01] fear. If you go to a fraternity house party... with
[2:18:05] a chaos going on in the living room area, and
[2:18:08] a young man says to you, would you like to
[2:18:11] go up to my room? I'm sorry, okay, you are
[2:18:14] consenting to sex. He is right to think you have
[2:18:17] consented, okay, to go up there and change your mind
[2:18:20] and so on. It's not right, of course, for anyone
[2:18:23] to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally, okay. But
[2:18:27] women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution
[2:18:31] has been won. This is what you get. Paglia. She
[2:18:37] always has a pretty nuanced way of looking at things.
[2:18:39] I did not expect that from her when I saw
[2:18:41] that. Yeah, we played Paglia a lot in the past.
[2:18:44] Yeah. Let me see. She's definitely more common sense. Yeah.
[2:18:49] Therefore, wrong. Let me see. When's the last time we
[2:18:51] played her? Yeah. Paglia, Paglia, Paglia. It's been a while.
[2:18:56] It's been at least 10 years. My goodness. We've done
[2:18:59] a lot on this show. At the end of this,
[2:19:01] she basically says, maybe we should just get rid of
[2:19:03] men and women co-education places. Oh, there you go. Here
[2:19:07] we are. Shouldn't men be afraid of the consequences of
[2:19:11] this? We have laws on the books, okay, against rape,
[2:19:15] okay? But the point is right now, okay? But everybody
[2:19:19] in that world will tell you it's almost impossible for
[2:19:21] women to have the strength to come forward to make
[2:19:24] the case and so on. Oh, Lord, okay. We're going
[2:19:26] to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class
[2:19:30] girls, okay, confused, unsure of what they want. want. Perhaps
[2:19:34] the sexual revolution should be reversed because what we're showing
[2:19:37] is that perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's
[2:19:41] young women are not prepared for co-education. Yeah, I've never
[2:19:46] liked this whole frat stuff either. This whole hazing thing.
[2:19:50] Oh, yeah. All this stuff is so lame. I was
[2:19:52] not. I went to college. I was not a fraternity
[2:19:55] guy. I didn't even really go to the parties. And
[2:19:58] probably because – I had seen the movie Animal House,
[2:20:03] the Revenge of the Nerds, and my idea of it
[2:20:05] was just like, what am I going to do here?
[2:20:07] Just get blitzed out drunk? I knew I was going
[2:20:09] to be one of the nerd guys. I'm like, I
[2:20:11] don't want to go to a party like that. They're
[2:20:13] going to do something bad to me. They're going to
[2:20:15] haze me. I went to college for one semester, and
[2:20:18] I pledged kappa with the black guys. Oh, really? I
[2:20:22] carried a book. Rick, yeah, I was the white shadow
[2:20:24] because I wasn't white. I was from Amsterdam, you see.
[2:20:27] And I came in. I remember my roommate, Ty, Ty
[2:20:31] Hamilton. He was a black kid from Trenton, New Jersey.
[2:20:35] And I remember him coming in. He's like, oh, brother,
[2:20:38] look at this cracker. Got a white guy. Yeah. And
[2:20:40] he's got his boom box. I had my boom box
[2:20:43] and I put in a tape and because I could
[2:20:45] just come from Amazon. Let the music play. Shannon, he's
[2:20:49] like. Whoa. No Lynyrd Skynyrd, huh? I said, no, man.
[2:20:53] This is what we're playing in Amsterdam. We connected on
[2:20:56] that. And then I was DJing at the parties. And
[2:20:59] it was, I tell you, a lot of respect. We
[2:21:02] got this white guy on the disc. Curry, the white
[2:21:05] shadow on the wheels of steel. That's right, baby. That's
[2:21:09] right. I played just the last quick 13-second clip because
[2:21:13] Colin Schultz sent it to me. It's a gem, a
[2:21:16] No Agenda classic from episode 13. No. So this is
[2:21:21] old, old, old. This is before I was born. This
[2:21:24] is pre-do, and it relates to the many co-hosts that
[2:21:31] we have had in the past two months here on
[2:21:34] the show. And this is Adam and John talking about
[2:21:36] Jason Calacanis. What's the difference between an escort and Jason
[2:21:40] Calacanis? Well, I don't think that's a good example. Okay.
[2:21:46] I was stretching a bit. But there might not be
[2:21:49] a difference between those two. Classic. There is no difference
[2:21:56] between those two. Beautiful. I don't even know what it
[2:21:59] was about anymore. that's how long jay cal was in
[2:22:04] my life was that like 2007 is that when that
[2:22:06] was yeah maybe 2000 maybe just turning 2008 yeah okay
[2:22:10] and jay cal was in my life back then that's
[2:22:12] how long he's been around it's beautiful all right uh
[2:22:16] sir ducifer my i got one final clip Go for
[2:22:20] it. We have to play this one. This is the
[2:22:23] Socialists Band. I think it starts with band. Socialist Band
[2:22:28] Promo? Socialist Band Promo. Because every good socialist knows how
[2:22:32] to promote their band. We are the neighborhood kids. We
[2:22:35] are the neighborhood kids. Rest in peace to all the
[2:22:37] martyrs. Rest in peace, Mary Morello. Free the world. Free
[2:22:41] Palestine. Free Congo. Free Armenia. Free Sudan. And free everywhere
[2:22:45] in the world from Western imperialism. We love you so
[2:22:47] much. It's power to the people. We are the neighborhood
[2:22:50] kids. And we got merch at that tent. We love
[2:22:52] y'all so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you.
[2:22:57] Viva la Revolución. Nothing says socialism like buy our merch.
[2:23:00] Viva la Revolución. Buy our merch in the tent. Oh,
[2:23:03] beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. All right, Rob. Thank you so much,
[2:23:08] man. I really appreciate it when you come on. And
[2:23:10] come on before the end of the month, one or
[2:23:12] two more times maybe? Oh, yeah, yeah. I like having
[2:23:16] the rotation. I think this is – We've got some
[2:23:19] good co-hosts going on here. I'm for everybody. I think
[2:23:22] everybody should get a chance to jump in here because
[2:23:24] all the perspectives are really great. Horowitz sent me this.
[2:23:28] He made an AI image, and it's all of us.
[2:23:31] And it's like, podcast the movie. He says, this is
[2:23:33] an idea, man. I'm like, are you kidding? What a
[2:23:36] nightmare that would be. All of us on at the
[2:23:38] same time? No, no, no, no. That's not going to
[2:23:41] work. No one would get a word in edgewise. Exactly.
[2:23:45] All right, brother. Have yourself a great Sunday. Thank you
[2:23:47] again for coming on, Rob. So much appreciated. And one
[2:23:50] last plug for my end of show mix is these
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[2:23:55] And my tip of the day is go. Go be
[2:23:57] in a drum circle, even if you've never played a
[2:23:59] drum. Drum circle, end of show, coming up. There he
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[2:28:13] Sir Daniel. I haven't been able to get a hold
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[2:28:47] Darren, of course, miss him dearly on that pre-show. We've
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[2:29:35] coined as uh the chicago uh You know, we talked
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[2:29:42] well, the plane, no one died. So, yeah, we can
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[2:29:58] it, but –
[2:30:00] I looked at it and it made me laugh. What
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[2:35:43] donation. The show got our families through the shamdemic and
[2:35:46] has helped me calm down and see through the BS.
[2:35:49] Adam, I have loved following your journey to Christ. Thank
[2:35:52] you for keeping the show going after JCD's passing. We
[2:35:55] all appreciate you keeping us sane. Please knight me Sir
[2:35:58] Tyler, Keeper of the Bees, and please have Temple Rolls
[2:36:01] and Schwip Schwop at the round table. The challenge coin
[2:36:05] looks great, and I can't wait to add it to
[2:36:06] my collection. No jingles, no karma, just prayers and RIPJCD.
[2:36:13] I actually forgot to get you the prayers, but I
[2:36:16] can get that for you right now. Prayers. There we
[2:36:21] go. You've got... Prayers. Prayers. 38883 from Robert Shepard. He
[2:36:31] will receive a challenge coin. Mark from Benton Mountain, Virginia.
[2:36:35] 38883 ITM. The donation is from me, but the challenge
[2:36:38] coin will be for my smoking hot wife, Brenda, for
[2:36:40] her birthday on October 6th. She actually hit me in
[2:36:43] the mouth over six years ago, and we haven't missed
[2:36:46] a show since. Happy birthday to the most loving and
[2:36:48] amazing wife and mother. I couldn't imagine. imagine going on
[2:36:51] this journey with anyone else. I'm truly blessed. Brenda's also
[2:36:54] a bit overdue for a layaway daming, so I'd like
[2:36:57] her dame drink wine forevermore if the committee so approves.
[2:37:02] Of course, she'd love Prosecco and some form of charcuterie
[2:37:05] at the round table. A single deduction would be appreciated
[2:37:09] for us both. We'll share it. You've been de-douched. Music.
[2:37:14] What better way to honor her birthday than with JCD's
[2:37:17] coin and damehood from the best producers in the universe.
[2:37:20] Thank you for your courage. Keep on keeping on. Mark
[2:37:22] in Bent Mountain, Virginia, jingles. For Brenda, all hell's going
[2:37:26] to break loose. You're going to need a Bitcoin. And
[2:37:28] for me, fisting nuts. You know, we haven't played the
[2:37:31] fisting nuts properly in a while, so let's do both.
[2:37:33] Yeah. They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose
[2:37:37] and you're gonna need a Bitcoin. John, tell us your...
[2:37:43] about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
[2:37:47] I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying,
[2:37:49] and I think it will result in fights breaking out
[2:37:52] because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his
[2:37:55] bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them
[2:37:58] into his palm of his hand, and then he makes
[2:38:02] a fist around the nuts. around the nuts. And then
[2:38:06] he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut
[2:38:09] to the little hole. Stop. To the little hole. And
[2:38:12] then he throws a nut in his mouth from his
[2:38:16] fist. From his fist. Then he does it again. He
[2:38:19] shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying
[2:38:24] as hell to watch. Stop. Thank you. Linda Lupatkin is
[2:38:29] in Castle Rock, Colorado, and she comes with $200 and
[2:38:32] she wants Jobs Karma. And she says, AI can write
[2:38:35] your resume. Problem is, it can write everyone else's too.
[2:38:39] This is correct. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out
[2:38:43] what makes them different, what makes them valuable, and turns
[2:38:46] that value into a new resume. into a resume that
[2:38:49] gets results. You want these results? Go to ImageMakersInc.com. That's
[2:38:53] ImageMakersInc with a K. And Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs
[2:38:56] and writer of winning resumes because your resume should do
[2:39:00] more than just look good. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
[2:39:05] Let's vote for jobs. You've got jobs. And there's Sir
[2:39:12] Scotty K. from Lakeshore, Minnesota. $200. I'm going to have
[2:39:15] to shorten your notes now, Sir Scotty, Sir Scotty, because
[2:39:21] you are making them real long. Bot Commander in the
[2:39:25] morning to you, Adam, Sir Ducifer, and the rest of
[2:39:27] Gitmo Nation. This is Sir Scotty K., your royal AI
[2:39:29] whisperer. That's right. You heard me, Sir Scotty K. I
[2:39:32] just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has
[2:39:34] hopped in to try out our AI home and business
[2:39:37] automation system called Bot Commander. The response has been fantastic.
[2:39:41] And here's his back story because this is a value
[2:39:43] for value project. We do support those. About five years
[2:39:46] ago, my wife and I started my neighbor to love
[2:39:49] coalition to help end homelessness in our area. We both
[2:39:52] had adult children who had experienced homelessness and fell through
[2:39:55] the gaping holes in our system. So we felt compelled
[2:39:58] by the good Lord. Hallelujah. To do something to help.
[2:40:02] So far, we've built four buildings and 35 units and
[2:40:05] have more to go. Wow. This is in Minnesota. Bot
[2:40:08] Commander was created to give people a free and easy
[2:40:11] way to take advantage of the advancements in AI, to
[2:40:13] organize their personal lives, and even start a business from
[2:40:16] scratch. 5% of all donations and profits from Bot Commander
[2:40:20] go to the My Neighbor to Love Coalition. You can
[2:40:23] get details on it at mntlc.org. 501c3 nonprofit. Help out
[2:40:31] if you can. What is Bot Commander? Well, it's an
[2:40:35] AI harness, kind of like OpenCraw, Crock-Pot, the herpes agent,
[2:40:39] and the constipated-looking one, Metamucil. But it's significantly better and
[2:40:44] free. Can you connect podcastindexrobot.com to it? I bet you
[2:40:50] can. It's free thanks to the V4V model, which means
[2:40:53] you send value back if you get value out of
[2:40:56] it. Bot Commander is created independently, like no agenda, not
[2:40:58] by a trillion-dollar effective altruism Silicon Valley Corporation. Help a
[2:41:03] brother out and give it a go. Go to the
[2:41:05] website for all the details, botcommander.com. Botcom.ai, that's bot with
[2:41:08] a B for Bravo. Over 30 features and business tools
[2:41:11] in a single dashboard. It's amazing. Botcom.ai with a B.
[2:41:15] If you have any issues, be sure to email support
[2:41:17] at botcom.ai. You know the rest of the story. is
[2:41:20] the podcast father no it's pod father thank you oh
[2:41:24] by the way that concludes our executive and associate executive
[2:41:29] producers for episode 1909 Oh boy, I'm messing up. We
[2:41:35] appreciate you. And remember, those titles you got, they are
[2:41:38] real. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit
[2:41:41] people in the mouth. You. Whoa! Shut up, play. Shh.
[2:41:55] There we go. Now we're at $100 from Baron Ladekin
[2:41:59] from Houston, Texas. We got a Bitcoin donation, $99.06. Thank
[2:42:04] you. Don't know who it's from. Theodora Surla in San
[2:42:07] Marcos, California. $93.64 needs a deduce. You've been deduced. And
[2:42:14] as always, with $80.08, please. Put it in the calculator.
[2:42:17] You'll get it. The boob donation. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, the
[2:42:20] Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs, he says.
[2:42:23] PSA. Detect it. Treat it. Defeat it. Boob Cancer Awareness
[2:42:27] Month. Les Tarkowski. Oh, with a little slant here. Literally
[2:42:32] $60.09. Well, that's lopsided. Brian Furley, double nickels on the
[2:42:37] dime, $55.10. David Oliver from Calistoga, California. He says, nobody
[2:42:42] will replace JCD. However, I love the new format and
[2:42:45] rotating guests. More do. Long live JCD. And here are
[2:42:48] the 50s already. James Sharametta from Napanach, New York. Foster
[2:42:53] Birch from New York, New York. Alexander Zavala, Sir Alexander
[2:42:57] from Kyle, Texas. And that's it. The rest we will
[2:43:00] not read because under $50 we never read for reasons
[2:43:02] of anonymity. But I do see those $49.99s or $33.33s,
[2:43:06] the 1111s, the 1212s. All of it is incredibly important.
[2:43:11] Welcome and we're very grateful that you continue to support
[2:43:15] the Curry and Dvorak families with your value for value
[2:43:18] and just for keeping No Agenda Nation together. If you
[2:43:22] want to support the show with your treasure, go to
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[2:43:34] for you. It is appreciated the same as $500, maybe
[2:43:37] nothing to somebody else. It's all appreciated. You can even
[2:43:40] set up a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency, anytime
[2:43:43] you want. Noagenda at donations.com. It's a birthday, birthday, birthday.
[2:43:51] And we have two birthdays. Mark says happy birthday to
[2:43:54] his wife, Brenda. She'll be celebrating on Tuesday, October 6th.
[2:43:58] And Kevin wishes his daughter, Aniston, a very happy birthday.
[2:44:01] She is turning 10 years old. So, of course, we
[2:44:03] say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast
[2:44:06] in the universe. And now the following people will receive
[2:44:11] the coveted Noah Jenner. of JCD.com. Challenge coin. I need
[2:44:15] some window dressing for this. I need a challenge coin.
[2:44:18] Somebody hop on the Sunos and give me some challenge
[2:44:20] coin stuff. Matt from North Carolina. Count Stephen. Rick Olson.
[2:44:24] Mark Futrell. Sir Ahab. Sir Codesalot. Brock Reinhold. Aaron Weisgerber.
[2:44:30] Mark Alcosser. Baroness Dame Cathy and Baron Sir Greg Simonich.
[2:44:35] Sir Greg Simonich. Jeff Zaba, Sir Marco D. Magnanimous, Lee
[2:44:39] North, Sir Trigger Max, Eric Reinhardt, Tyler Darrington, Robert Shepard,
[2:44:43] and Mark in Bent Mountain, Virginia, along, of course, with
[2:44:47] Brenda. And thank you all so very much. Continue to
[2:44:50] go to knowagendadonations.com to find out more. Of course, now
[2:44:54] we do have one dame and two knights to bring
[2:44:56] up on the podcast. I got my sword. I'm all
[2:44:59] by myself.
[2:45:00] but it doesn't make it any less official. Brenda in
[2:45:02] Bent Mountain, Virginia. Tyler Darrington and Matt, hop up on
[2:45:06] the podium. All three of you are about to become
[2:45:09] Knights and Dame of the Noah Jenner Roundtable. I hereby
[2:45:12] pronounce the K-T-E-S. Dame Drinkwine. Sir Tyler, Keeper of Bees,
[2:45:18] and Sir Alex M. of Naganashi. For you, we've got
[2:45:22] Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. We've got Temple
[2:45:25] Rolls and Schwib Shrop, Prosecco and Charcuterie. Along with that,
[2:45:29] Ruben S. Ruben and Rosé, Gases and Sake, Vodka Vanilla,
[2:45:32] Bongheads and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger and Gerbils,
[2:45:36] Breast No. Welcome, Pavlom, and always. The mutton and the
[2:45:39] me. Go to noagendarings.com. I think we have... the challenge
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[2:46:03] of the Noagenderings. and a round table. You hit them
[2:46:05] in the mouth, it'll leave a lasting mark. Or you
[2:46:07] can use the wax that we add to the package
[2:46:10] and seal your important correspondence with it. It's old school,
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[2:46:19] No Agenda Show. No Agenda Meetups! Okay, so this... All
[2:46:29] that we have for today is the meetup that is
[2:46:33] underway, the Indy NA Tri-State Short and Long Barrel Safety
[2:46:37] Meetup. I hope it's not raining like it is here
[2:46:39] in Texas. I hope you're having a great time. That's
[2:46:42] Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. I expect
[2:46:44] a bang-up. Meetup report from them. And so I don't
[2:46:48] know what else is coming up this week, but I
[2:46:50] can tell you on the 9th of October, Los Benos,
[2:46:52] California. Three meetups on the 10th of October, Fort Wayne,
[2:46:56] Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquel, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North
[2:47:00] Carolina, Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California on
[2:47:03] the 17th. Fredericksburg, Texas. That's our backyard here at Bar
[2:47:07] 17. with J6 or Jenny. It's going to be a
[2:47:10] hootenanny. Join us for that. A hootenanny. Orlando, Florida on
[2:47:14] the 21st. Los Altos, California on the 24th. And Tilburg,
[2:47:17] the Netherlands, also on the 24th of October. Keep checking
[2:47:21] noagenda meetups.com. Hopefully we'll get that thing back up and
[2:47:24] running so that everybody can continue to schedule their noagenda
[2:47:27] meetups. If not, keep checking. Checking in with the show
[2:47:30] so you know exactly where you can go to your
[2:47:32] meetup. And if you can't find one near you, you
[2:47:35] can always start one yourself. It is very simple. Soon
[2:47:37] to be back up. NoagendaMeetups.com. Sometimes you want to go
[2:47:42] hang out with all the nights and days. Be where
[2:47:49] you won't be. Drink it on hell's the blame. You.
[2:47:54] Everybody feels the same It's like a party. All right,
[2:48:02] that's it, everybody. I'm not quite sure what's coming up
[2:48:05] next. I was hoping... Oh, it's bowl after bowl. Oh,
[2:48:07] is it live? Maybe not. Okay, that'll be Sir Spencer
[2:48:14] and Dame DeLorean. That is next on your No Agenda
[2:48:17] stream. You can always go check out... The Podcasting 2.0
[2:48:23] podcast if you want to hear about the podcastindexrobot.com. And
[2:48:28] of course, Wednesday, there will be another We Get to
[2:48:30] Do This. Pastor Jimmy and I taking a look at
[2:48:32] the news in the world through a biblical lens. If
[2:48:36] you are a believer or Christ-curious, you are welcome over
[2:48:40] there in Get To Nation. And I will, of course,
[2:48:43] be back on Thursday. I don't know who's going to
[2:48:46] be co-hosting, so I'll let you know. ASAP, I've got
[2:48:50] to get on the stick with this booking stuff. I
[2:48:52] never signed up for that. End of show mixes. We
[2:48:55] have, let me see, Melody. We'll kick it off, though,
[2:49:00] with... Sir Dusifer's drum circle. What could possibly go wrong?
[2:49:08] I'll see you next time, everybody. Until then, remember us
[2:49:11] at noagendadonations.com. As always, a hooey hooey. Adios, mofos. And
[2:49:17] such. I'll give you just one guess Always me. Purpose
[2:51:46] and functionality. Mind the Bulls coming from the office door
[2:51:55] I'll clean the mess up later. Just don't black and
[2:51:58] white. JCD's office looks like mine.

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