# Joyce Carol Oates Reads Cynthia Ozick

An episode of [The New Yorker: Fiction](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/256945396), 30 Sep 2014, 30 min.

Audio: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/uJwtcKQUPuqBQPfusm59/traffic.megaphone.fm/CNE5114040057.mp3

Joyce Carol Oates joins Deborah Treisman to read and discuss Cynthia Ozick’s “The Shawl,” from a 1980 issue of the magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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