# Soap Box: Why AI can't fix bad security products

An episode of [Risky Business](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/216478078), 1 Aug 2025, 37 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/media3.risky.biz/soapbox98.mp3

In this Soap Box edition of the show Patrick Gray chats with the CEO of email security company Sublime Security, Josh Kamdjou. They talk about where AI is useful, where it isn’t, and why AI can’t save vendors from their bad product design choices. This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes

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