# Soap Box: Where does AI fit into cloud security?

An episode of [Risky Business](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/216478078), 15 May 2026, 34 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/media3.risky.biz/SOAPBOX107.mp3

In this sponsored soap box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Toni de la Fuente, the founder of Prowler. Prowler started off as a bunch of scripts in a trenchcoat, then became an open source cloud security tool, and it’s now a venture-funded cloud security business. In this interview Toni talks us through how AI is changing the game for him as an open source project owner, and as a vendor. In short, reports of the death of IT and security tooling at the hands of frontier models have been greatly exaggerated. This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes

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