# Piecing Together What Happened in Syria

An episode of [The Truth of the Matter](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/214886950), 12 Dec 2024, 22 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS8286817557.mp3?updated=1734040655

CSIS’s Norman Roule, who served for thirty-four years in the Central Intelligence Agency, managing significant programs relating to the Middle East, joins the podcast to discuss the actors that enabled the Assad regime to survive for so long, how bureaucratic rot in Russia and Iran enabled Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) to move south so quickly, and actions the U.S. can take to support peace in the region.

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