# David Sanger’s “New Cold Wars”

An episode of [The Truth of the Matter](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/214886950), 29 Apr 2024, 28 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS5617201241.mp3?updated=1714408290

The New York Times’ David Sanger joins the podcast to discuss his best-selling new book, “New Cold Wars: China’s Rise, Russia’s Invasion, and America’s Struggle to Defend the West.”

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