# Debt Matters

An episode of [The Truth of the Matter](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/214886950), 1 May 2025, 31 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS9559885450.mp3?updated=1746116015

CSIS’s Phil Luck joins the podcast to discuss the U.S. national debt, why it matters and what the Trump administration and Congress can do to address it.

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