# Summer science: Bird bandit

An episode of [Our Changing World](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/208013620), 15 Jan 2025, 44 min.

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The summer science series continues with an episode from RNZ podcast Black Sheep. Freddie Angell was New Zealand's most notorious wildlife smuggler. His repeated attempts at stealing and exporting native wildlife in the 1990s, including kea and tuatara, made him all but a household name. William Ray speaks to documentary-maker Andy MacDonald about his extraordinary story. Black Sheep is an RNZ podcast produced and presented by William Ray. Listen to more episodes of Black Sheep. Guest: • Andy MacDonald, documentary-maker Sign up to the Our Changing World monthly newsletter for episode backstories, science analysis and more. Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

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