# “Intelligence & the World’s Largest Democracy” - Indian Spy Chief Vikram Sood

An episode of [SpyCast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/201680433), 18 May 2021, 59 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/YfZO4tERxneauNcW9Fgn/traffic.megaphone.fm/CYBW6160382557.mp3?updated=1644874010

In a first for the show, this week’s guest is a former spy chief from the world’s largest democracy. Vikram Sood was the Director of India's Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW). Andrew and Vikram talk Pakistan, China, the United States, human capital, intelligence reform and the power of narratives: because spies can be sensitive souls too.

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