# “Special Operations & Intelligence” – A Conversation with the President of SOF’s “Think-Do Tank”

An episode of [SpyCast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/201680433), 14 Dec 2021, 1 h 15 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/YfZO4tERxneauNcW9Fgn/traffic.megaphone.fm/CYBW2970569230.mp3?updated=1644873227

Post 9/11, special operations and intelligence worked together side-by-side, shoulder-to-shoulder and hand-in-glove (or any other heavily-hyphenated term you care to mention that connotates BFFness). What will happen with the relationship now, though, and in American history how have these two important components of national security related to each other? Enter the Joint Special Operations University (JSOU), located in Tampa, Florida, and more particularly their President Isaiah “Ike” Wilson, who sits down with Andrew for this week’s episode of #SpyCast. “I think, therefore I am” Nope. “I think, therefore I do”

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