# Morrie’s Next Move: Atticus Shaffer and Phil Lollar on “Kris-Crossed”

An episode of [The Official Adventures in Odyssey Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/193181775), 19 Mar 2025, 19 min.

Audio: https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/6b62b447-e557-44a9-ae88-af6300da5440/51f96c51-29f2-40a8-b3e0-af95000ecd1e/eafeccdb-e3be-4b37-b21a-b2a400f868ba/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=13fcc980-8f6c-4071-ab82-af95000ecd35

Morrie Rydell is changing from manipulative villain to surprising hero. Actor Atticus Shaffer and writer/director Phil Lollar take us inside “Kris-Crossed,” discussing Morrie’s changes, behind-the-scenes stories, and insight into the Christian underpinnings of the character. Plus, hear a preview of “Better Buck Next Time, Part 2!”

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