# Gun Community Helps Nursing Students; DOJ Attorney Attracts Fans; Pistols As Classic Cars

An episode of [Gun Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/190516844), 26 Apr 2026, 27 min.

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In This Hour: -- When a father looked for help with security for his daughter and other nursing students, the Second Community stepped up with volunteers. -- While the 1911 may be the "classic car" of the pistol world, it still "drives" just fine. -- Justice Department's Harmeet Dhillon attracts new fans with her talk of target shooting. Gun Talk 04.26.26 After Show Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.

## Transcript

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[1:01] Speaker 6: is just leftover, pretty far leftover.
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[1:07] Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, we got Jim Kinsey and we got Tom
[1:09] Speaker 6: handed here. Anyway, man, what is the great show fin
[1:13] Speaker 6: show today? Yeah, it's a fine show today. A lot
[1:16] Speaker 6: of good interviews a lot of things going on, and
[1:18] Speaker 6: obviously you got the news about what happened at DC,
[1:21] Speaker 6: and we're getting more information about that. But now we're
[1:24] Speaker 6: in the trickle stage. It's just gonna eke out. We'll
[1:27] Speaker 6: get a little bit, a little bit and then maybe
[1:29] Speaker 6: maybe we'll find out. I mean sometimes we haven't found
[1:32] Speaker 6: out much about the shooters or the assassins. Anyway.
[1:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems months later something trickles out maybe, yeah, exactly. Well,
[1:40] Speaker 4: you know what it is a short attention span theater
[1:42] Speaker 4: number one. Yeah, and it's the constance and immediate gratification
[1:46] Speaker 4: and news cycles and they play off it.
[1:51] Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's like, okay, after thirty six hours, you know,
[1:54] Speaker 6: maybe forty eight hours, it's like we're moving on to
[1:56] Speaker 6: something else now. Yep, I get it. All right, Well,
[1:59] Speaker 6: let's go grab this because I am really happy about
[2:01] Speaker 6: getting this call. Craig is called in from Houston, and Craig,
[2:04] Speaker 6: I remember our conversations very well in Houston. How are you, sir?
[2:09] Speaker 7: I am great, sir, Thank you for taking my call.
[2:11] Speaker 7: I just wanted to call and give you a little
[2:14] Speaker 7: little feedback on the outcome of our circumstance and more
[2:19] Speaker 7: important to Tom, I wanted to express my gratitude to the
[2:23] Speaker 7: two A community.
[2:24] Speaker 6: All right, So Craig comes up to me, he says, hey,
[2:27] Speaker 6: and your son was there, he says, my daughter nursing student.
[2:31] Speaker 7: Right, yeah, she's a gradualy nursing student here coming up
[2:34] Speaker 7: in May at Corby Chirsty at A and M. They've
[2:39] Speaker 7: been given an assignment that's called transportation Day. So there's
[2:43] Speaker 7: a little contact on that. They're supposed to take public
[2:46] Speaker 7: transportation right Corpus Christy, get off at four different stops,
[2:50] Speaker 7: multiple stops, so this is kind of a I tell him,
[2:53] Speaker 7: you described it perfect as the poverty to work. And
[2:56] Speaker 7: the whole idea is that they're going to go to
[2:57] Speaker 7: the County Health Board of the new Aces County Health Board.
[3:01] Speaker 7: They've got to go to a public library, at grocery store,
[3:04] Speaker 7: a faith based organization. It's kind of like a kid
[3:07] Speaker 7: shelter or things like that. They're going to get off
[3:10] Speaker 7: the bus, go interview some of the folks in there
[3:12] Speaker 7: talking about how they interacting with the community health and
[3:18] Speaker 7: then they get back on the bus. They do this.
[3:20] Speaker 7: So this is the expectation of this is about five
[3:22] Speaker 7: to six hour assignment and that's all good up until
[3:26] Speaker 7: the fact that last February, in the beginning of February,
[3:29] Speaker 7: they split these the students up into what they call rotations.
[3:32] Speaker 7: And those rotations the first one in February on the project,
[3:37] Speaker 7: it got off a bus, were waiting for another bus.
[3:40] Speaker 7: The bus never came, so they, of course, as students,
[3:43] Speaker 7: didn't have a contingency plan, so they looked up online
[3:46] Speaker 7: real quick. Well the next bus station, it's not too
[3:48] Speaker 7: far away. Of course, they just started walking, so they
[3:52] Speaker 7: encountered a threat. A gentleman gets out of them van,
[3:58] Speaker 7: chasing them, running after what's cell phone. The van continues
[4:02] Speaker 7: to drive next to them. You know, the students seek
[4:05] Speaker 7: shelter and a little bit this.
[4:07] Speaker 6: Yeah, a bunch of young women here, bunch of young here.
[4:09] Speaker 7: Predominantly female. Yeah, all female that in that rotation, right,
[4:13] Speaker 7: so yeah, twenty something year olds. Uh, police are called
[4:16] Speaker 7: and ultimately the faculty comes to getting to give them
[4:19] Speaker 7: safe transportation back to the university. They kept getting to
[4:23] Speaker 7: multiple emails. You know, I will call it the professional
[4:26] Speaker 7: brush off. Ultimately it's kind of more of a middle finger,
[4:29] Speaker 7: but either way, no response. All I kept getting was
[4:32] Speaker 7: you know, how we keep our students safe. But surprisingly
[4:36] Speaker 7: no changes in the safety protocol.
[4:39] Speaker 6: Okay, and then and then you were going to I
[4:41] Speaker 6: guess did they call your daughter in for a meeting
[4:43] Speaker 6: if I remember.
[4:44] Speaker 7: Correctly as we were speaking, Yes, sir, while we were
[4:48] Speaker 7: at the NA Animal meeting speaking with you, they actually
[4:51] Speaker 7: had three faculty members come up to her or come
[4:55] Speaker 7: to her clinical she was at a school, she was
[4:57] Speaker 7: doing a school nursing clinical and come and spend an
[5:00] Speaker 7: hour talking to her. What I didn't find out that
[5:04] Speaker 7: was that until afterwards, was that, uh, they made her
[5:08] Speaker 7: place her cell phone on the table for full transparency.
[5:14] Speaker 7: So it was kind of a bullying session as you'd expect.
[5:16] Speaker 7: That wasn't the wouldn't fall into what I call it.
[5:20] Speaker 6: You had brought up, Yeah, you had brought up the
[5:21] Speaker 6: issue of safety on this, and they're basically trying to
[5:24] Speaker 6: get her to pull away and say that knock it off,
[5:28] Speaker 6: don't do this anymore, don't don't don't question what we're doing.
[5:32] Speaker 5: Right.
[5:32] Speaker 7: So our requests were very simple, you know, could we
[5:35] Speaker 7: do this other public transportation, how about a you know
[5:37] Speaker 7: what the university ban? Could we achieve the same coals
[5:41] Speaker 7: of this side? But more importantly was you know, my
[5:43] Speaker 7: daughter asked, can I carry my firearm or can I
[5:46] Speaker 7: carry pepper spray? And that was another question that we
[5:49] Speaker 7: asked the university was is it okay for the gear?
[5:51] Speaker 7: You know the students se carry personal safety gear? Could
[5:54] Speaker 7: you know, in an addition, could we hire you know,
[5:58] Speaker 7: often share deputy, a third party and any abomb So
[6:02] Speaker 7: our conversation was, is there somebody in that corporse area
[6:05] Speaker 7: that'll be will to ride with us or join that
[6:08] Speaker 7: just be another another male presence, you know, along for
[6:12] Speaker 7: the ride. So uh, you had posted on x We'll
[6:16] Speaker 7: got some great responses from that, but he also also
[6:19] Speaker 7: reached out and introduced me to Ken Cambell from Gunsign.
[6:21] Speaker 7: So Ken was so kind to post it on Monday.
[6:24] Speaker 7: He put it out, generated a lot of response, and
[6:29] Speaker 7: ultimately we got a law enforcement office here from Porpose
[6:33] Speaker 7: that reached out to us and said, I have the
[6:35] Speaker 7: day off our Friday. My wife and I saw this.
[6:37] Speaker 7: We think it's important enough, I'd like to volunteer to
[6:40] Speaker 7: come along. So we had Yeah, we had a third
[6:44] Speaker 7: not only a third, we had We'll call him Chuck
[6:47] Speaker 7: to protect his identity, but Chuck wrote along. We got
[6:51] Speaker 7: to know each other over the week because it's like,
[6:52] Speaker 7: you know, this is one of those where, wow, this
[6:55] Speaker 7: is a kind of precarious situation. We developed a kind
[6:59] Speaker 7: of strategy ultimately said look, if you've got access to
[7:03] Speaker 7: your off duty or your undercover car, just f on
[7:07] Speaker 7: the bus. So he was always there. He was loitering,
[7:10] Speaker 7: hanging around, you know, pretty identifiable vehicle, right, but he
[7:16] Speaker 7: followed the bus, which was incredible. So everywhere we stopped,
[7:21] Speaker 7: he was there. He was in the parking lot, he
[7:22] Speaker 7: was next to us. So it worked out extremely well
[7:26] Speaker 7: in that regard. My son and I sat like two
[7:29] Speaker 7: angry men at the back of the bush, just you know,
[7:32] Speaker 7: eyeballowing anybody that. So we uh, everything went very well.
[7:40] Speaker 7: Uh And I was glad we went because the one
[7:44] Speaker 7: is seeing firsthand and you're thinking to yourself, the worst
[7:48] Speaker 7: is it bad?
[7:49] Speaker 5: Uh.
[7:50] Speaker 7: There were two scenarios that played out that I thought,
[7:53] Speaker 7: you know this, I'm extremely pleased to be here. One
[7:56] Speaker 7: was the transfer stations. As the students get off of us,
[8:02] Speaker 7: You're hanging out on this deck of Trent for fifteen
[8:05] Speaker 7: to twenty minutes waiting for the next bus. Yeah, you're target,
[8:08] Speaker 7: We're there. A guy gets off, comes off stops looks
[8:13] Speaker 7: at all these girls and stops and stairs and then
[8:17] Speaker 7: almost motions towards getting back on the bus, like hey,
[8:19] Speaker 7: wait a minute, this is something I know, this is interesting.
[8:23] Speaker 7: Of course my son and are just staring at him.
[8:25] Speaker 7: So he ultimately moved on. But you had a couple
[8:28] Speaker 7: of the guys that were just called a trolling. They
[8:31] Speaker 7: were just moving around looking, you know, around the transfer station.
[8:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, they're predators.
[8:37] Speaker 7: Having that presence pushed off a lot of folks. But yeah,
[8:42] Speaker 7: well I.
[8:43] Speaker 6: Am, I'm really glad. I mean it just happened with
[8:45] Speaker 6: you and I were standing there talking and you're over
[8:47] Speaker 6: about the Gun Talk booth and King Cambell from Gunsite,
[8:50] Speaker 6: he's the CEO gun Site, comes by and said again
[8:52] Speaker 6: I grabbed me. You talked to Craig. He's got a
[8:55] Speaker 6: situation he needs some help in corpus since like, okay,
[8:57] Speaker 6: I haven't to step out of the way, and you
[9:00] Speaker 6: just went from there is great.
[9:03] Speaker 7: Yeah, it was again the tension that we got from folks.
[9:08] Speaker 7: So more aside from that, I listened to you on
[9:11] Speaker 7: nine twenty Talk Gradio or Patriot Talk here in Houston.
[9:15] Speaker 7: The owner of that Matt Velosts, you know, introduced me
[9:19] Speaker 7: to a group called the Armed Attorneys, who I've never seen.
[9:22] Speaker 7: Their local here in Houston predominantly self defense. They do
[9:26] Speaker 7: a He's like, hey, if you're seeing their YouTube, and
[9:28] Speaker 7: I'm like no. One of the attorneys reached out. We said,
[9:32] Speaker 7: o opinian help with this, you let me know. So
[9:34] Speaker 7: we ended up connecting on Monday. They took a hold
[9:38] Speaker 7: and a partial interest in this, like I've never seen.
[9:41] Speaker 7: They went after him. By Tuesday afternoon, we had a
[9:45] Speaker 7: letter that essentially told them that you know, your sovereign
[9:48] Speaker 7: immunity is gone as an organization, that you're you know,
[9:53] Speaker 7: any teacher or professor that's involved in this, because you've
[9:56] Speaker 7: had already a threat in the safety violation or the
[10:01] Speaker 7: safety threat during the assignment previously. You know it's a
[10:07] Speaker 7: dangerous activity and you're.
[10:09] Speaker 6: Putting it back out of the dangers at you. So
[10:11] Speaker 6: now you don't have your legal protection.
[10:12] Speaker 7: I like, you just lost your legal protection. And I
[10:15] Speaker 7: mean they covered everything, uh surprisingly a and m ignored
[10:19] Speaker 7: that as well.
[10:21] Speaker 6: Well. Yeah now yeah, yeah for that exactly. Greg. I
[10:28] Speaker 6: am really appreciate the follow up. I'm glad we were
[10:30] Speaker 6: able to connect you with some good people, but all
[10:33] Speaker 6: that goes to say that there are a lot of
[10:35] Speaker 6: good people who will step up and help if they
[10:38] Speaker 6: know that somebody needs help.
[10:40] Speaker 7: Yes, I think I was talking to a friend of mine.
[10:44] Speaker 7: I told me, so, you know what, I understand now
[10:46] Speaker 7: why liberals are so so I'm happy half the time.
[10:49] Speaker 7: It's not part of a Second Amendment community.
[10:51] Speaker 5: That's it.
[10:54] Speaker 6: Well, and we talked about that, NRA. It's like, you know,
[10:56] Speaker 6: everybody walked around there by half the people are carrying guns.
[10:59] Speaker 6: I mean, I'm interviewing the Acting Attorney General of the
[11:04] Speaker 6: United States and he's surrounded by FBI agents and I'm
[11:07] Speaker 6: standing there. I don't know if they knew or not,
[11:09] Speaker 6: but I mean, I've carried a gun while I'm interviewing
[11:13] Speaker 6: the Acting Attorney Generals Like, yeah, but so it's half
[11:16] Speaker 6: a third or half the people in the halls. It
[11:18] Speaker 6: was all good, Craig, I got scwed here. I appreciate
[11:20] Speaker 6: the follow up. Please say hello to your son, and
[11:23] Speaker 6: thank you for letting us know how it worked out. Man.
[11:26] Speaker 7: I appreciate everything you did for song. Thank you, sir.
[11:29] Speaker 6: You bet take care.
[11:31] Speaker 5: Well.
[11:31] Speaker 6: That was a heck of a story, wasn't they guys?
[11:33] Speaker 6: Thank you? Well, yeah, he just kind of came up
[11:36] Speaker 6: to me and says, let me tell you a story.
[11:38] Speaker 6: I mean, he's a longtime listener. And he starts telling me.
[11:39] Speaker 6: I said, you know, let's see if we can't get
[11:42] Speaker 6: some volunteers. I mean, of course, my first thought was
[11:44] Speaker 6: we need people who are trained X cops or cops
[11:47] Speaker 6: or maybe guns like graduates and all, of course a
[11:49] Speaker 6: lot of guns that graduates are in fact cops or
[11:51] Speaker 6: X cops. And then I connected him with Ken and
[11:54] Speaker 6: then he put out the word and it's like, okay,
[11:56] Speaker 6: we got this taken care of. I just at that
[11:58] Speaker 6: point I knew it wasn't a problem.
[12:00] Speaker 4: I would love to hear like a Wayne Black's take
[12:02] Speaker 4: on that. Yeah, from his perspective, you know.
[12:04] Speaker 6: Yeah, from security for protecting your protectee and all that,
[12:09] Speaker 6: but honestly just being there so that it's obvious that
[12:14] Speaker 6: there are guys there who are with those young women.
[12:18] Speaker 6: It's like, okay, I described it, says, look, when these
[12:22] Speaker 6: young women get off the bus in a bad part
[12:24] Speaker 6: of town, it's like a whole bunch of ice cream cones.
[12:27] Speaker 6: Pop it off and everybody's going, oh wow, yummy. It's like,
[12:30] Speaker 6: you know, it's like, holy what are you.
[12:32] Speaker 4: Thinking, Yeah, I just don't understand that. I'm sure they
[12:36] Speaker 4: can't carry on campus, right, No, they cannot. They can't
[12:39] Speaker 4: carry to and from their assignment. I mean if they're.
[12:43] Speaker 6: Well, that's the gray areas, like, okay, we're not at
[12:46] Speaker 6: the university, even though it's the university activity function, right
[12:50] Speaker 6: And you know, of course, I am of the attitude
[12:52] Speaker 6: of don't ask if you don't want to know. Why
[12:56] Speaker 6: Why in the world would you ask in the first place? Right, Yeah,
[13:00] Speaker 6: because worse they tell you no, Now, you could be
[13:02] Speaker 6: a problem. But if you don't ask or just carry
[13:05] Speaker 6: number one, they'll probably never know. And if they do,
[13:07] Speaker 6: thes because you need it and we'll worry about the
[13:10] Speaker 6: other consequences later.
[13:11] Speaker 5: Yep, yep, I'll see that.
[13:14] Speaker 6: All right. Hey, let's take a quick break. We'll come
[13:16] Speaker 6: back and talk guns and stuff.
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[13:58] Speaker 6: All right, we are back after seeing the blessing from
[14:00] Speaker 6: Tom over. What was that anyway?
[14:02] Speaker 8: By the way, the father Guido, Oh, I love it.
[14:09] Speaker 6: That's a way back, way back. He was great, funny stuff.
[14:14] Speaker 6: We're doing silly stuff during the break. That was a surprise,
[14:16] Speaker 6: right us. Shocking he speaking of silly. I've got a
[14:19] Speaker 6: feudal venture I'm about to undertake. It should be good.
[14:23] Speaker 4: At my local bank insert name here, they have a
[14:27] Speaker 4: sign on the door that says firearms are not permitted
[14:31] Speaker 4: here by federal law.
[14:34] Speaker 5: Well, no, yeah, it does not permitted here by federal law.
[14:38] Speaker 4: I think they're trying to play off their connection to
[14:40] Speaker 4: the fd I see.
[14:42] Speaker 5: But that which is it is.
[14:46] Speaker 4: So I'm going to go there and photograph it and
[14:49] Speaker 4: go through the steps of reaching out to whoever their
[14:51] Speaker 4: attorneys or PR people are or whatever, and say, I
[14:54] Speaker 4: realize you're not going to take down the size of morons,
[14:56] Speaker 4: but could at least state the truth, say it's our policy,
[15:00] Speaker 4: we don't want guns anything.
[15:01] Speaker 6: Can I make a suggestion that you go a different way?
[15:04] Speaker 5: No, Tom, I'm always right in everything. I do this,
[15:07] Speaker 5: We're gonna save me a lot of time. Yeah, what's up,
[15:12] Speaker 5: what's up? Talk to me, Talk to me.
[15:14] Speaker 6: I would reach out to Buckeye Firearms, Oh, because they're
[15:17] Speaker 6: going to want to take that on, because these guys
[15:20] Speaker 6: have branches and everything else, and they're gonna want to
[15:23] Speaker 6: go in there and say no, no, no, no, no no no.
[15:25] Speaker 6: I mean I would. I would turn the group because
[15:27] Speaker 6: they're pretty effective.
[15:28] Speaker 5: Yeah. I like the idea because and you know, they're
[15:30] Speaker 5: not going to take the signs down. They're gonna have
[15:32] Speaker 5: to be forced to get the signs. But no, no,
[15:34] Speaker 5: they will.
[15:34] Speaker 6: They will take the sign those signs down. They may
[15:36] Speaker 6: put up something else.
[15:37] Speaker 5: Well that's what I'm saying. But they're gonna have to
[15:38] Speaker 5: tell the truth, and they're in their news signage.
[15:41] Speaker 6: Well here's the question. And I don't without looking it up,
[15:44] Speaker 6: I don't know. And some states pretty up, a no
[15:47] Speaker 6: gun sign has absolutely no weight in Ohio.
[15:50] Speaker 4: Does if a bank puts up that sign that you
[15:52] Speaker 4: are breaking law by going in?
[15:54] Speaker 6: But a banker is that anybody puts up a sign.
[15:57] Speaker 8: I think it's anybody, is it. I don't think like
[16:01] Speaker 8: if a bar puts up a sign and you carry
[16:04] Speaker 8: in there anyway you can be liable.
[16:06] Speaker 5: Well, let's go to the bar and find out there's
[16:08] Speaker 5: some of them around here.
[16:10] Speaker 6: Yea, that's right right now, bro Hio.
[16:15] Speaker 4: No, I know it is for banks and obviously post
[16:18] Speaker 4: office of that kind of stuff.
[16:19] Speaker 5: But I thought the signers didn't hold weight. If it's
[16:23] Speaker 5: you know, the Mom and Pops shoe store.
[16:25] Speaker 8: My painting doesn't. Well it depends on the branch or
[16:29] Speaker 8: is it a usually go to has no sign? Right
[16:32] Speaker 8: the one downtown has a sign in Ohio?
[16:35] Speaker 6: Do no gun signs have the force of law? The
[16:38] Speaker 6: answer is yes. So if they put up all locations anywhere,
[16:44] Speaker 6: well that's no funing yep.
[16:47] Speaker 8: So I just put one up in the front of
[16:49] Speaker 8: my house and I'm okay, there you go.
[16:51] Speaker 6: Okay.
[16:51] Speaker 4: So if Mom and Pops guns shoeter puts up a
[16:54] Speaker 4: no gun sign, all right, and for some reason you
[16:57] Speaker 4: do are you is it a trespassing charge or is
[17:02] Speaker 4: that a firearms.
[17:03] Speaker 6: You know, it's a violation of the law, not trespass. Okay, yep.
[17:08] Speaker 6: And according to change that law dot us.
[17:11] Speaker 5: You got to change that yeah, yep.
[17:13] Speaker 6: And there I mean once again talk to buck Eye firearms.
[17:17] Speaker 6: But that being the case. Okay, since this is the case,
[17:22] Speaker 6: the bank may or may not change the sign, but
[17:25] Speaker 6: it's not going to have any different make any difference
[17:28] Speaker 6: in terms of what's happening, because they can prohibit. Yeah,
[17:31] Speaker 6: your point.
[17:32] Speaker 5: My feudal part of it is that they're passing it
[17:34] Speaker 5: off on the FED law. There is no Fed law.
[17:36] Speaker 6: No, there's not. But all they have to do is
[17:39] Speaker 6: put no gun sign up in their covered anyway, So it's.
[17:42] Speaker 5: Just a chance to be a thorn in their side.
[17:44] Speaker 8: Time mean, I suggest you close your accounts there first
[17:47] Speaker 8: before you do.
[17:50] Speaker 6: You really have experienced that annoying people, right.
[17:54] Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm a tenured Actually, okay, there you go.
[17:57] Speaker 4: Almost eleven you beat me to it.
[18:03] Speaker 6: It was bad, but we were going there anyway. Sure,
[18:06] Speaker 6: here you go.
[18:07] Speaker 8: Just like my practicing drawing my pistol.
[18:09] Speaker 6: Oh that was a great I was talking about drawing him.
[18:12] Speaker 6: You got to really practice you're drawing your pistol. So
[18:14] Speaker 6: Tom sends me a text in the middle of the show,
[18:17] Speaker 6: what are you supposed to be working? By the way, Well,
[18:21] Speaker 6: it's got a sketch pad with a drawing of a pistol.
[18:25] Speaker 6: He says, Yeah, I'm drawing my pistol.
[18:26] Speaker 5: That's the hennig nine milimeter, isn't.
[18:28] Speaker 8: It it is?
[18:30] Speaker 6: Yeah, it's actually a zero point seven. Oh oh, I
[18:36] Speaker 6: forgot to put this out on the air. But you're
[18:39] Speaker 6: familiar with the seven militer Backcountry cartridge one that has
[18:43] Speaker 6: the eighty thousand PSI and all of that. Federal has
[18:48] Speaker 6: been putting out uh posters, ads, mailings, whatever, saying, uh,
[18:53] Speaker 6: something new is coming, something new is coming, you know
[18:56] Speaker 6: what's going on? What's going on? Said, well, we're releasing
[18:59] Speaker 6: it on on June the fifth. Oh, you're releasing it
[19:05] Speaker 6: on six five. Oh, I get it.
[19:12] Speaker 5: It's all starting to make sense.
[19:13] Speaker 6: It's always gonna be. I'm sure it's gonna be some
[19:16] Speaker 6: kind of sixty five back country be my guests. No,
[19:18] Speaker 6: they're not talking. They haven't told me. I don't have
[19:20] Speaker 6: an NDA, so it's like, so I'm making all this
[19:24] Speaker 6: up as I always do. But but yeah, when and
[19:27] Speaker 6: all they would say is it's coming out on June
[19:31] Speaker 6: the fifth, and go, yeah, but what is it? And
[19:33] Speaker 6: they would say it's June the fifth. It's like hello,
[19:42] Speaker 6: so that'll be happening.
[19:45] Speaker 4: Now if they've got a six five that's cranking out
[19:47] Speaker 4: eighty thousand PSI.
[19:48] Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to pick up another two hundred plus
[19:51] Speaker 6: feet per second out of it.
[19:53] Speaker 4: Right, But aren't you going to destroy any existing six
[19:55] Speaker 4: fives you have that weren't built to take that kind
[19:57] Speaker 4: of pressure.
[19:58] Speaker 6: Well, it's a six' five, caliber but it's not necessarily
[20:01] Speaker 6: a six five creed more cartridge. Cartridge, okay so it
[20:05] Speaker 6: may it probably has a different cartridge, shape so that. Thing, Okay,
[20:10] Speaker 6: YES i was almost certain about. That, yeah which brings
[20:15] Speaker 6: us to an interesting. QUESTION i was talking to somebody
[20:18] Speaker 6: about this AT nra and he, said, YEAH i think
[20:20] Speaker 6: you're right with these cartridges where you can get the
[20:25] Speaker 6: same velocity out of a shorter, barrel you can get
[20:27] Speaker 6: more velost out of a standard, barrel but you can
[20:29] Speaker 6: shorten your barrel good bit and get the same, velocity
[20:33] Speaker 6: and combine that with no tax on. SUPPRESSORS i think
[20:38] Speaker 6: we're going into a new era of what rifles look.
[20:42] Speaker 6: Like and you, know in twenty thirty, years we'll look
[20:47] Speaker 6: back on hunting rifles to have twenty four and twenty six,
[20:50] Speaker 6: barrels and we will look at those like there are
[20:52] Speaker 6: a blunderbus or.
[20:53] Speaker 4: Something, right be running a fourteen with a six inches. Suppressor, yeah.
[20:58] Speaker 6: Exactly you do a twelve fourteen inch barrel with a
[21:02] Speaker 6: six inch. Suppressor now you're back to the original length
[21:05] Speaker 6: of the barrel and you've got all the features that you're.
[21:07] Speaker 5: Looking, for and you're not that nose heavy because the
[21:09] Speaker 5: nose isn't out there as far, right you, know, leverage.
[21:13] Speaker 6: You know, exactly and you know you got these lightweight titanium. Cans.
[21:17] Speaker 6: Right it doesn't put a whole lot out, there.
[21:19] Speaker 4: Yep and then the less you put it out there the.
[21:22] Speaker 4: Better it's kind of like my personal. Life there's that.
[21:27] Speaker 6: Was it just because you're thinking that doesn't mean you
[21:29] Speaker 6: have to post. It let's see you doned. It, well
[21:32] Speaker 6: pictures it didn't. Happen there's that, too exactly. Right did
[21:36] Speaker 6: you notice that the video of the attack last, night
[21:40] Speaker 6: you see all these people holding their phones. UP i
[21:42] Speaker 6: mean there's secret, servers they're pointing guns, everywhere and these
[21:45] Speaker 6: dupes are standing around pointing their. Cameras it's like they
[21:49] Speaker 6: don't even understand it's real because they live in this
[21:52] Speaker 6: fantasy world where everything is you, know to be.
[21:54] Speaker 4: Videoed, yeah but the new iPhone seventeen's they have full body,
[21:57] Speaker 4: armor don't they they protect you while you're.
[21:59] Speaker 6: Shooting And i'll tell. You but we're a, journalist you. Know,
[22:02] Speaker 6: yeah well guess what journalists can get, dead just just
[22:04] Speaker 6: like anybody.
[22:05] Speaker 5: Else a ventilated. Journalist of, COURSE i did like.
[22:09] Speaker 6: It Jackie heinrich over At, fox she was talking, About,
[22:12] Speaker 6: Yeah i'm on my hands and, knees crawling underneath the
[22:15] Speaker 6: table in my evening. DRESS i, think smart, girl there you,
[22:19] Speaker 6: go that's making. Sense Harmiat dilon posted that she had
[22:22] Speaker 6: a cut and a bruise on her head from going
[22:26] Speaker 6: underneath the. Table i'm, thinking, Well i'm guessing that one
[22:29] Speaker 6: of our security agents shoved her down, there probably Her. John,
[22:34] Speaker 6: yeah because she's got martial service people around.
[22:36] Speaker 4: HER i love her met she she broke my heart
[22:39] Speaker 4: though today. Time, oh she slipped in a conversation that
[22:42] Speaker 4: she and her, Husband oh, GOD i.
[22:46] Speaker 6: Just you, Know, Jim i've never known that to slow you. Down.
[22:49] Speaker 5: Though, well plus they're From, california they don't shoot a.
[22:54] Speaker 5: Lot i'd have a chance she's shooting out.
[22:57] Speaker 6: Shooting, well, yeah she, says you got her glocks plural
[23:01] Speaker 6: where she says she can't take back To california. Now
[23:04] Speaker 6: so but, yeah she'shooting at THE fbi range and, going,
[23:07] Speaker 6: yeah this is gonna. Work you're gonna tune that one.
[23:09] Speaker 6: Up so she runs like ten miles a, day and
[23:14] Speaker 6: she's always posting pictures of the knit caps that she
[23:18] Speaker 6: is crocheting for. People she does that all the. Time,
[23:22] Speaker 6: yeah she would just sue you into. Oblivion you know
[23:26] Speaker 6: she she is a tough.
[23:28] Speaker 5: Lady.
[23:30] Speaker 6: Yees, yeah it was a fun. Interviewers she was a
[23:33] Speaker 6: very different demeanor than the first TIME i.
[23:35] Speaker 5: Interviewer did you ask about?
[23:37] Speaker 6: Me strangely?
[23:39] Speaker 8: Enough, no where CAN i put my order in for
[23:41] Speaker 8: a knit? Holster there you.
[23:45] Speaker 6: Go, Yes i'm not even gonna say that BECAUSE i
[23:49] Speaker 6: was GONNA i was actually gonna name a brand of.
[23:50] Speaker 6: Hulster that's so bad it's like a, nope, nope nope.
[23:55] Speaker 6: No but those flopping eyeline holsters are pretty close to A,
[23:58] Speaker 6: ye you're pretty. Lousy so, well you.
[24:02] Speaker 4: Can get A kaidex holster and just Have grandma wrap. It,
[24:05] Speaker 4: oh so like a stocking kind of a sleep a holster.
[24:09] Speaker 6: Holster, Hmmm well you know how they'll do the carbon
[24:13] Speaker 6: fiber finish and look on A kayex, holster you can
[24:16] Speaker 6: do a crochet. Finish, yeah there you.
[24:19] Speaker 5: Go if we talked to Zerrah. Coat do you have
[24:22] Speaker 5: anything like a tartan? Plaid?
[24:24] Speaker 6: Maybe there you, Go i'm liking.
[24:26] Speaker 8: It can we get a wellness check on this?
[24:29] Speaker 6: Guy? Yeah, no? Kidding all, Right, WELL i will be
[24:33] Speaker 6: here next week and then the following week after that
[24:37] Speaker 6: we'll be stewing the show remotely from gun. Site nice
[24:42] Speaker 6: and just Actually Mother's day at gun site now THAT
[24:44] Speaker 6: i look at, It oh, yeah because still. Yeah and
[24:48] Speaker 6: then then that next day we start our five, day
[24:52] Speaker 6: two fifty class with nineteen, eleven's so that'll be.
[24:56] Speaker 5: Fun those designs will never catch.
[24:58] Speaker 6: ON i, KNOW i know nobody's going to make fun of.
[25:00] Speaker 6: Me they didn't make the point they, said you, know
[25:02] Speaker 6: you want to bring a much magazines because you'll be
[25:04] Speaker 6: reloading more often than they do another. Class true, enough
[25:09] Speaker 6: if you got eighteen rounds in a mag versus, eight
[25:11] Speaker 6: you know you're doing a lot more.
[25:12] Speaker 4: RELOADING i think she'd get a drum oheen eleven drum
[25:17] Speaker 4: mag underneath.
[25:18] Speaker 6: Too probably it's just a little bit unwieldy in the.
[25:22] Speaker 6: Holster it's kind of keeps pulling your pants down and
[25:24] Speaker 6: finding the right holster for. It fifty, rounds the forty.
[25:27] Speaker 6: Five you know that's. Heavy it is interesting how much
[25:32] Speaker 6: heavier the forty five AM o is a case of
[25:34] Speaker 6: that versus. Nine, yeah it is real. NOTICEABLE i bet
[25:39] Speaker 6: there you. Go SO i went over to a friend's
[25:41] Speaker 6: house the other day to pick up some gear from,
[25:43] Speaker 6: him and he had a case of nine and his
[25:46] Speaker 6: wife had it out. There he wasn't, there and she
[25:48] Speaker 6: says that little box is heavy as. It, yes they.
[25:51] Speaker 6: Are there's a thousand rounds of nine in there. Going,
[25:55] Speaker 6: yeah that'll.
[25:55] Speaker 4: Be that's people don't always, understand is it when they
[25:58] Speaker 4: when somebody's offering you'll buy Ex, mountain we get free.
[26:00] Speaker 5: Shipping we free. Shipping that's no big. Deal, yes yes it.
[26:05] Speaker 6: IS i got a factory shop FOR i factor. That
[26:09] Speaker 6: When i'm, Shopping i'm looking for the free shipping. Deals for.
[26:11] Speaker 5: Sure it makes it.
[26:12] Speaker 4: Different you got to Really, yeah when we look at
[26:14] Speaker 4: the cost per, round for, example you got factor they
[26:16] Speaker 4: otherwise you're kidding.
[26:17] Speaker 6: Yourself, yep exactly. Right so NOW i got to see
[26:21] Speaker 6: IF i can find some lighter weight BULLET ammo for
[26:25] Speaker 6: my forty. Five just IF i can find, IT i
[26:27] Speaker 6: would definitely shoot that in the.
[26:29] Speaker 4: Class, yeah but you shoot supposed to be shooting those
[26:31] Speaker 4: uh coldwell copters with, Shotgun tom.
[26:35] Speaker 6: Not that is the most fun. Thing you got to
[26:38] Speaker 6: go look at the. Videos, yes it is. Crazy, YEAH
[26:41] Speaker 6: i love that. Though i'm definitely gonna get.
[26:43] Speaker 4: One, yeah we need some video you're shooting. THAT i
[26:47] Speaker 4: like the night option go in the, dark that would be.
[26:50] Speaker 5: Some. YEAH i mean the the.
[26:52] Speaker 6: Issue there is trying to figure out the. Distance if
[26:55] Speaker 6: you don't know what the distance is to, it then
[26:58] Speaker 6: it's hard to know the, speed so you don't know
[27:01] Speaker 6: how far to lead. It it's, like, oh this is
[27:03] Speaker 6: gonna be really.
[27:04] Speaker 5: Fine are they hard to? Cut?
[27:06] Speaker 6: Yeah, right you just ain't cooking them. Here you just
[27:08] Speaker 6: boil them for a, while like a week or. Two all,
[27:13] Speaker 6: right all, right, guys you have a good week to stay.
[27:16] Speaker 5: Safe my. Friend we'll catch you next time for the
[27:20] Speaker 5: gun talk after. Show

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