# Colt Pistols Get Red Dots; Your Safe Area Isn't Safe; Shoot A WW1 Rifle

An episode of [Gun Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/190516844), 28 Jun 2026, 44 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72730461/062826guntalkb.mp3

In This Hour: -- The venerable Colt 1911 pistols now have the option of mounting electronic dot sights. Mark Redl explains this move as well as the hot M5 carbine. -- Crazy and evil travels, which means your "safe area" really isn't. -- He bought a World War 1 rifle and loves it. Gun Talk 06.28.26 Hour 2 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Forged m lock ready and I try to bolt Carrier group.
[0:04] Speaker 1: The Ruger Harrier is completely re engineered for today's shooter.
[0:08] Speaker 1: Innovation without compromise comes standard with the Harrier.
[0:13] Speaker 2: From the range to the field. CZ firearms are built
[0:16] Speaker 2: to perform when it counts. Known for accuracy, durability, and reliability,
[0:21] Speaker 2: CZ stands apart. CZ built for those who demand more.
[0:26] Speaker 2: CZ Firearms dot com.
[0:28] Speaker 3: Especially with a nine no meter mo today, if you
[0:30] Speaker 3: run even a plus pm off, is this got'll handle
[0:32] Speaker 3: plus PMO no prompt You almost got a three fifty
[0:34] Speaker 3: seven velocity.
[0:35] Speaker 4: Coming out of that nine milimeter gun. Yeah, think about it.
[0:38] Speaker 3: You get a plus p if you're running fourteen hundred
[0:40] Speaker 3: feet per second with one hundred and twenty four grand bullet.
[0:43] Speaker 3: You know that the hollow points going to open up.
[0:45] Speaker 5: Always spouted to talk about cool guns and with cool people,
[0:49] Speaker 5: and we've got We're joined right now by Mark Reddel
[0:51] Speaker 5: from Cold Firearms. I'm sitting here looking at your website,
[0:55] Speaker 5: and you know, I know Cold. Everybody knows Cold is
[0:58] Speaker 5: one of the most recognized names in the world. You
[1:01] Speaker 5: go around the world, people know what Cold firems. I
[1:04] Speaker 5: had no idea how many different nineteen elevens you guys
[1:09] Speaker 5: are making. I mean, yeah, you got the revolvers, you
[1:11] Speaker 5: got you know, the in fours and all of that,
[1:13] Speaker 5: But just just that category of nineteen eleven is it
[1:16] Speaker 5: goes on for page after page after page.
[1:18] Speaker 3: Well, one gun doesn't do every job number one, and
[1:22] Speaker 3: not everybody likes the same features on a gun. Some
[1:26] Speaker 3: like checkering, some don't site systems. So you gotta listen
[1:31] Speaker 3: to the consumer, which I can say we have been
[1:34] Speaker 3: over the last few years and really trying to revamp
[1:38] Speaker 3: our lines into what the public wants.
[1:42] Speaker 5: Well, it's just going to say, you know, we like
[1:44] Speaker 5: our old things, but you got a new bunch of
[1:46] Speaker 5: shooters coming along, and they say, you know, I like
[1:49] Speaker 5: that butt, and it's always the butt, right, But I
[1:52] Speaker 5: really want an optics cut. But I really want a
[1:55] Speaker 5: maguell But I really Okay, great, you know what, We'll
[1:58] Speaker 5: make it for.
[1:58] Speaker 4: You one percent.
[2:01] Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons we went in kind
[2:03] Speaker 3: of hot and heavy on the optic cuts.
[2:05] Speaker 4: Not only do we have them in a wide variety
[2:08] Speaker 4: of our models.
[2:10] Speaker 3: Between the competition guns, the combat unit gun, which is
[2:13] Speaker 3: more of a duty gun, but you know commanders also
[2:16] Speaker 3: because commanders in my opinion, one of the best nineteen
[2:20] Speaker 3: eleven carry guns you can have. I just like the
[2:23] Speaker 3: balance in away runs and everything.
[2:25] Speaker 4: So why not. We have the ability to do it,
[2:29] Speaker 4: We have the knowledge to.
[2:30] Speaker 6: Do it, and you know, we did tons and tons
[2:33] Speaker 6: of testing on those guns to make sure that we
[2:37] Speaker 6: didn't have any plates coming loose, optics coming loose thread,
[2:41] Speaker 6: hooles prolling out.
[2:42] Speaker 4: It takes a lot. A lot of people don't.
[2:44] Speaker 3: Understand how much testing goes into a gun before you
[2:47] Speaker 3: release it, and the amount of money it takes you
[2:49] Speaker 3: to do it.
[2:49] Speaker 5: The funny part to me is that you talk about
[2:51] Speaker 5: the company testing, but I know there's also the mark
[2:54] Speaker 5: rental testing. You've been a professional shooter for decades and
[2:57] Speaker 5: I think before we got on there, you said over
[2:59] Speaker 5: the last twenty years or so, you figure you've put
[3:02] Speaker 5: close to a million rounds through nineteen eleven pistols. That's
[3:06] Speaker 5: just you yourself.
[3:06] Speaker 4: Shooting correct, not at work.
[3:12] Speaker 3: But yeah, it's funny when yeah, I drive a nineteen eleven.
[3:18] Speaker 4: I drive it.
[3:19] Speaker 3: And when I was doing a lot of testing for Coal,
[3:24] Speaker 3: a lot of things I would recommend as we got
[3:26] Speaker 3: a hotspot, a hotspot where you would feel pain, a
[3:30] Speaker 3: sharp edge or something.
[3:31] Speaker 4: You can't have that.
[3:32] Speaker 3: I tell people where I grip the gun has to
[3:35] Speaker 3: almost feel.
[3:36] Speaker 4: Like a bar soap uh huh.
[3:38] Speaker 3: I don't want sharp edges because if it hurts when
[3:41] Speaker 3: you're shooting it, you're not going to shoot it.
[3:43] Speaker 4: And you know as well as I do a hanggun,
[3:45] Speaker 4: you can lose proficiency very quickly.
[3:47] Speaker 3: Is one more difficult firearms to shoot my handgun versus
[3:50] Speaker 3: a rifle or a shotgun.
[3:52] Speaker 5: Yeah, and your proficiency goes downhill really fast. And you're right,
[3:55] Speaker 5: you know, if you shoot it. Look, if you go
[3:57] Speaker 5: out and shoot a box of m it's not a
[4:01] Speaker 5: big deal. But if you go out and shoot several
[4:04] Speaker 5: hundred rounds a day, day after day, it didn't take
[4:08] Speaker 5: you long to say, Okay, this thing hurts, that thing's
[4:10] Speaker 5: poking into me, that that little thing over there is
[4:12] Speaker 5: cutting my hand. We've all been out there at the
[4:14] Speaker 5: range and go, yeah, I need some more band aids
[4:16] Speaker 5: because I'm just cutting my hands up on this gun.
[4:19] Speaker 4: Sharp edges, Yep, it's amazing. You've been at the gun
[4:23] Speaker 4: site a ton of times. I've been out there, you know.
[4:26] Speaker 3: I took a quick three day class last summer and
[4:30] Speaker 3: it was funny.
[4:31] Speaker 4: By day two, I was still the only one that
[4:34] Speaker 4: didn't have.
[4:35] Speaker 7: Band aids or tape on my hands.
[4:38] Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody else.
[4:39] Speaker 4: Them up because they had sharp spots on their gun.
[4:41] Speaker 5: Well, exactly right, and let's kind of get that what
[4:44] Speaker 5: they call it the worn out bar of soapie where
[4:46] Speaker 5: you knock off all those sharp edges. You got a
[4:48] Speaker 5: gun that got my attention. Then we were talking before
[4:51] Speaker 5: we got on there. There's Custom Carry Limited. It's a
[4:53] Speaker 5: commander sized gun in nine milimeter. I'm looking at that
[4:57] Speaker 5: and thinking that is like one of the sweetest carry guns.
[5:00] Speaker 5: And then you said, yeah, but it's out of the
[5:02] Speaker 5: custom shop and they're hard to get. What's the story
[5:05] Speaker 5: with the custom shop in the back ordering?
[5:07] Speaker 3: Because the custom shop is literally each gun is put
[5:11] Speaker 3: together by one of our master gunsmiths.
[5:15] Speaker 4: It's not fast production like you get on an OEM thing.
[5:19] Speaker 3: So basically, frame slides and barrels are built to slightly
[5:24] Speaker 3: different tolerances than the floor models, tighter so each barrel's
[5:29] Speaker 3: hand fit it the frame lapp to the slide. You know,
[5:34] Speaker 3: these are all one master gunsmith from Colt assembles this
[5:39] Speaker 3: gun from start to finish and test fires it and
[5:42] Speaker 3: every gun that leaves there comes with the test target,
[5:45] Speaker 3: the commander that you're talking about. We do a nine
[5:47] Speaker 3: millimeter and forty five and when you look at not
[5:52] Speaker 3: only the COLT parts in it, but the who's who
[5:55] Speaker 3: of after market parts, is the best way for you
[5:57] Speaker 3: to say, when we have EGW edition part, we have
[6:00] Speaker 3: to stand ten parts in the gun.
[6:03] Speaker 4: We didn't skip on it. You know, you know John
[6:05] Speaker 4: Harris medium link trigger in it. We made sure we
[6:09] Speaker 4: got quality parts to go in that gun.
[6:12] Speaker 5: It really is a custom pistol. It's just made by
[6:15] Speaker 5: a factory. It's a custom pistol where you went out
[6:17] Speaker 5: and got the very best aftermarket parts just to make
[6:20] Speaker 5: sure there's nothing better than that correct.
[6:22] Speaker 3: And it's you know when people talk about the custom shop,
[6:26] Speaker 3: which as a matter of fact, this year is the
[6:28] Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary of our Customers Show. Yeah, a lot of
[6:32] Speaker 3: people think of those really nicely engraved single action armies
[6:37] Speaker 3: are nicely engraved righteen eleven.
[6:39] Speaker 4: But but we do, if.
[6:42] Speaker 3: You want to call it semi production, we do that
[6:46] Speaker 3: custom carry gun. We do a custom competition gun, which
[6:50] Speaker 3: is the way I set up my competition pistols that
[6:53] Speaker 3: are also being made there.
[6:55] Speaker 4: So there's all.
[6:56] Speaker 3: And they also will work on customers guns and do
[6:59] Speaker 3: upgrades and every thing from the custom shop.
[7:01] Speaker 5: I don't know that.
[7:02] Speaker 4: Wow, it's a really interesting place to go.
[7:07] Speaker 3: It's funny when a lot of the VIPs come to visital,
[7:10] Speaker 3: you bring them in there, and that's where they spend
[7:12] Speaker 3: most of their time watching these guys hand file and
[7:17] Speaker 3: talk to them and watch John Paves, a master engraver
[7:21] Speaker 3: chisel metal, and he's like, all we'll talk.
[7:24] Speaker 5: About him in just a second. I do want to
[7:26] Speaker 5: mention it. The nineteen elevens you have are available in
[7:28] Speaker 5: different sizes, but also in nine, ten, forty five, and
[7:32] Speaker 5: thirty eight supers. There's still an interest in thirty eight.
[7:35] Speaker 3: Supers, Yes, there is, well, we heard or not usually
[7:38] Speaker 3: down southwestern states have a big interest in it yet
[7:42] Speaker 3: because it's still that flat shooting round that everybody likes
[7:46] Speaker 3: down there. Bobby personally, it has his pluses and minuses.
[7:51] Speaker 3: But you know, you know as well as I do,
[7:53] Speaker 3: the way nine millimeters plus p's are coming out, they're
[7:57] Speaker 3: rivaling what you're getting speed at A.
[8:00] Speaker 5: Yeah, there really are all right, you mentioned you're engraver.
[8:03] Speaker 5: We've got to talk for a second about this Revolver
[8:06] Speaker 5: promotion thing you're doing with the Second Amendment Foundation.
[8:09] Speaker 3: Yes, Cole guns dot com have partnered up with Second
[8:14] Speaker 3: Amendment Foundation the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our
[8:17] Speaker 3: country and you're doing a one off special Python. John
[8:24] Speaker 3: Pas has done c class engravings, patriotic role engraving special
[8:32] Speaker 3: grips that are smooth walnut with eagle medallions in it.
[8:36] Speaker 3: So this is gonna be one off. It's going up
[8:39] Speaker 3: for auction. It starts live tomorrow. All proceeds are going
[8:44] Speaker 3: to the Second Amendment Foundation, and it's great because that's
[8:48] Speaker 3: an organization that has been fighting for our rights to
[8:53] Speaker 3: keep our firearms.
[8:54] Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely in doing some good work. We've just had
[8:56] Speaker 5: a couple of really big wins. So we got this
[8:58] Speaker 5: custom Python available guns dot You go to guns dot
[9:02] Speaker 5: com and that's going to be the you get a
[9:04] Speaker 5: chance and it's not auction. Is an auction or raffle auction.
[9:07] Speaker 4: Auction Okay, starts tomorrow and goes to July twelfth.
[9:11] Speaker 5: Very good, All right, very good. And of course for
[9:14] Speaker 5: those people know you've been expanding the Python line, you've
[9:17] Speaker 5: been expanding the Revolver line. You doing a lot of
[9:20] Speaker 5: stuff there.
[9:21] Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you there has been a huge resurgeon
[9:24] Speaker 3: in the modern sporting rifles this year. It's been pretty
[9:29] Speaker 3: amazing from what I've seen, a lot more interest in it.
[9:33] Speaker 3: Maybe it's because some of these states are trying to
[9:36] Speaker 3: pass laws that are unconstitutional as far as un concerned.
[9:40] Speaker 4: But yeah, and of course, you know.
[9:43] Speaker 3: One of the big pluses, we just had our M five,
[9:46] Speaker 3: which is our ambidextrious gun, ambidexrious lower with a totally
[9:51] Speaker 3: different upper, the way the barrel is held in and
[9:55] Speaker 3: everything for more accuracy, total free float, it gets rid
[10:00] Speaker 3: of heat guns and am actually named America's gun, So
[10:05] Speaker 3: that that was a pretty big thing for us to have,
[10:08] Speaker 3: right with all the manufacturers out there that they chose us.
[10:13] Speaker 4: It was pretty interesting to watch the M four.
[10:17] Speaker 3: With serial number one million come off the assembly line.
[10:20] Speaker 5: Wow was that recently?
[10:22] Speaker 4: Yes? Springtime?
[10:23] Speaker 5: Wow?
[10:24] Speaker 4: Pretty impressive to think about the M four.
[10:28] Speaker 3: You know, the military's M four serial number one million
[10:32] Speaker 3: is like.
[10:32] Speaker 5: Well, as far as I'm concerned, the AR fifteen, the
[10:35] Speaker 5: AR does stand for America's Rifle, and that's the way
[10:38] Speaker 5: it should be. All right, Mark Rendtl, I appreciate your time.
[10:41] Speaker 5: Always fun to get together with you. We got to
[10:42] Speaker 5: do that, and I think we're gonna be together at
[10:45] Speaker 5: the Gunsight gas match out there in October. Let me
[10:48] Speaker 5: send people to cult dot com. It's just simply cult
[10:51] Speaker 5: dot com to see all of these cool guns. Mark Redold,
[10:54] Speaker 5: thanks again, and I will see you out of Gunsight
[10:57] Speaker 5: all right, don't go far. Gun Talk will be right back.
[11:01] Speaker 1: Ruger didn't just update the ar, they rebuilt it from
[11:04] Speaker 1: the ground up. The Harrier is the modern sporting rifle
[11:07] Speaker 1: reimagined for the serious shooter. Millspec four seventy seventy five
[11:11] Speaker 1: receivers and I tried to bold Carrier group with stacked
[11:14] Speaker 1: gas key mlock handguard, with full length accessory rail, access
[11:18] Speaker 1: threaded barrel, ready for whatever you add to it. This
[11:21] Speaker 1: isn't an iteration, it's an evolution decades of Ruger engineering
[11:26] Speaker 1: discipline poured into the platform.
[11:28] Speaker 5: You love the Ruger Harrier. Put all your gear on
[11:32] Speaker 5: that you carry and then roll around on the ground. Now,
[11:35] Speaker 5: get up all your gear that's on the ground. That's
[11:37] Speaker 5: what you're not going to have in a fight.
[11:39] Speaker 4: Gun Talk should be in your podcast feed. Check out
[11:42] Speaker 4: gun Talk Nation. What's it like to be blown up?
[11:44] Speaker 4: You know if it's like C four. It's almost like
[11:47] Speaker 4: a smack hunting. Yeah, we talk about that too.
[11:51] Speaker 2: On your cross hairs, I like a thin crosshair.
[11:54] Speaker 4: AJ you're really dating yourself by calling things cross hairs.
[11:57] Speaker 4: You're redical whatever. Have some fun and informed with the
[12:00] Speaker 4: gun Talk podcast.
[12:06] Speaker 8: Whether it's for self defense or everyday carry, a quality
[12:09] Speaker 8: Surefire light can be a lifesaver. Surefire builds the most
[12:14] Speaker 8: rugged handheld and weapon mounted lights on the planet, manufactured
[12:18] Speaker 8: right here in the USA, to give you the upper
[12:20] Speaker 8: hand when it counts most. Don't settle for good enough
[12:23] Speaker 8: when your life is on the line. Go with a
[12:25] Speaker 8: proven performer, Go Surefire. Find your setup at surefire dot com.
[12:36] Speaker 9: Want the latest in guns, gear and shooting info straight
[12:39] Speaker 9: into your inbox. Sign up for the gun Talk newsletter.
[12:42] Speaker 9: Get insider access to reviews, exclusive deals, training tips, and
[12:47] Speaker 9: the hottest stories from the range, delivered every week. Don't
[12:50] Speaker 9: miss out on the news and offers every shooter needs
[12:54] Speaker 9: to know. It's fast, free and easy. Sign up today
[12:57] Speaker 9: at gun talk dot com. That's gun talk dot com.
[13:04] Speaker 1: Ruger our exam self defense focused. When things go sideways,
[13:08] Speaker 1: your gear better go forward. The Ruger RXAM is built
[13:11] Speaker 1: for real world defense, simple, intuitive and ready. When you
[13:16] Speaker 1: are with a flat face trigger for consistent control, excellent
[13:19] Speaker 1: ergonomics and reliability, you can bet your life on the
[13:23] Speaker 1: RXAM makes no excuses. One of Ruger's most versatile and
[13:27] Speaker 1: modular designs. The RXAM is ready because when it's go time,
[13:31] Speaker 1: you won't have time.
[13:48] Speaker 5: It is an incredibly exciting time if you are a
[13:52] Speaker 5: supporter of the Second Amendment. We just had two major
[13:56] Speaker 5: cases come out of the Supreme Court. Both of them
[13:59] Speaker 5: went our way, was unanimous. One was a six to
[14:02] Speaker 5: three decision. We had the Hamadi case which said that
[14:07] Speaker 5: you cannot be banned from owning a gun because you
[14:09] Speaker 5: smoke marijuana. And then we had the Wolford case out
[14:15] Speaker 5: of Hawaii, and that one's a very interesting one, and
[14:19] Speaker 5: both of them have very favorable Well, I would say
[14:26] Speaker 5: unintended consequences, but I think maybe the Supreme Court intended
[14:29] Speaker 5: the consequences the way they wrote them. One of the
[14:35] Speaker 5: most interesting parts of the Wolford case out of Hawaii
[14:39] Speaker 5: was Justice Catangie Brown Jackson in her descent, actually bolstered
[14:49] Speaker 5: the Second Amendment. I think, as I think it was
[15:00] Speaker 5: one of the gun rights supporters was quoted as saying
[15:02] Speaker 5: she needs to go back to law school, which is
[15:06] Speaker 5: a kind way of saying what I often say, which
[15:09] Speaker 5: is she's dumb as a bag of rocks. She in
[15:14] Speaker 5: no way understood that her descent would be quoted and
[15:20] Speaker 5: already has been used in several amikas files. The breaches
[15:28] Speaker 5: have been filed over the last two or three days
[15:32] Speaker 5: where she's supporting the methodology, and we hear about this
[15:35] Speaker 5: all the time. What is the methodology? It is the
[15:37] Speaker 5: way that courts are instructed to look at these cases.
[15:41] Speaker 5: You have to do this before you can do that. Well,
[15:44] Speaker 5: it's really important because what's the big vad No, no, no,
[15:47] Speaker 5: it's really important because what has been happening, and let
[15:51] Speaker 5: get into the weeds on this for a second. What
[15:54] Speaker 5: has been happening is that the Supreme Court had the
[15:57] Speaker 5: Heller decision, then the McDonald decision, and then the brew decision,
[16:00] Speaker 5: all good decisions for the Second Amendment, and then they
[16:04] Speaker 5: would get these the lower courts, which essentially ignore them
[16:09] Speaker 5: and do what they wanted to do because they didn't
[16:11] Speaker 5: like the law the way the Supreme Court interpreted it.
[16:17] Speaker 5: They said, well, we're just going to ignore it and
[16:19] Speaker 5: we'll do what we could do here, and basically, thinking
[16:22] Speaker 5: that the Supreme Court isn't going to take all these cases,
[16:24] Speaker 5: they're not going to take this one. In the way
[16:27] Speaker 5: we rule against the Second Amendment and against gun owners
[16:30] Speaker 5: and against gun rights will simply stand. And that's been
[16:35] Speaker 5: largely true up until now. I think it's changing. One
[16:40] Speaker 5: of the things that's been happening. And here's where we
[16:42] Speaker 5: really get into the weeds. There's a thing called GVR
[16:46] Speaker 5: where the Supreme Court, the case gets appealed to the
[16:50] Speaker 5: Supreme Court and they grant certuary, which says we're going
[16:54] Speaker 5: to take the case, and then they vacate the lower
[16:58] Speaker 5: court's decision to throw it out, and then they remand
[17:02] Speaker 5: it they send it back to the lower court. So
[17:04] Speaker 5: it's a GVR grant, vacate and remand basically the Supreme
[17:09] Speaker 5: Court has looked at this case, we've thrown it out.
[17:12] Speaker 5: We send it back to you to do it again
[17:15] Speaker 5: in accordance with the way we the Supreme Court have
[17:18] Speaker 5: ruled on this issue. Unfortunately, up till now, what has
[17:25] Speaker 5: been happening is some of these lower courts, Ninth Circuit
[17:28] Speaker 5: some of the others, they get the case back from
[17:30] Speaker 5: the Supreme Court. This has happened in the last few
[17:33] Speaker 5: days of a couple of them. They get the case
[17:36] Speaker 5: back from the Supreme Court, which is said, Okay, you
[17:38] Speaker 5: got it wrong, go back and look at it again
[17:41] Speaker 5: with a night of what we've done here and the
[17:42] Speaker 5: way we've set up the guardrails. And the lower court
[17:46] Speaker 5: looks at it and then re examines it and then
[17:50] Speaker 5: reissues its opinion and says, we got this from the
[17:53] Speaker 5: Supreme Court and they ask us to look at it again,
[17:56] Speaker 5: and we have and we think we've got it right
[17:58] Speaker 5: the first time, So we're going to stick with what
[18:00] Speaker 5: we had, in other words, just flipping the bird at
[18:04] Speaker 5: the Supreme Court. Of course, those get appealed back to
[18:08] Speaker 5: the Supreme Court. It's the most amazing thing, is the
[18:12] Speaker 5: most incredible display of hubris on part of the lower courts.
[18:19] Speaker 5: We got with these two cases some real clear signs
[18:22] Speaker 5: that the Supreme Court wants to see some more cases.
[18:26] Speaker 5: Almost certainly we will see what is commonly called a
[18:31] Speaker 5: hardware case. These bands on air fifteens and bands on
[18:36] Speaker 5: standard capacity magazines. I think that's going to becoming I
[18:41] Speaker 5: would bet in the next term with it. This term
[18:44] Speaker 5: is almost over, like we were a week or so
[18:46] Speaker 5: before this term is over, but they might decide to
[18:49] Speaker 5: grant cert on one of these cases to look at
[18:53] Speaker 5: it next term. I think that's probably going to happen,
[18:57] Speaker 5: and we're gonna win. I would say we're close to
[19:00] Speaker 5: one hundred percent that we're going to win. And all
[19:03] Speaker 5: the air fifteen bands and all these states are going
[19:05] Speaker 5: to go away, and the magazine capacity limits in these
[19:09] Speaker 5: states are going to go away. I mean, I am
[19:12] Speaker 5: convinced that is going to happen. And as I've said
[19:16] Speaker 5: many times here before, people say, yeah, but I get it.
[19:21] Speaker 5: Nobody is more frustrated with the process than I am.
[19:25] Speaker 5: I understand that. Look, I've been doing this for fifty years.
[19:29] Speaker 5: I wanted all this to get fixed fifty years ago,
[19:32] Speaker 5: and then forty years ago, then thirty and twenty ten
[19:35] Speaker 5: years ago. But there's a process. You got to go
[19:39] Speaker 5: through the process. And for the longest time, for decades,
[19:42] Speaker 5: we had no chance of getting favorable rulings out of
[19:46] Speaker 5: the Supreme Court. What wasn't going to happen. The Supreme
[19:49] Speaker 5: Court was packed with leftists, and the cases brought to
[19:55] Speaker 5: them were brought to them with an eye toward we
[19:58] Speaker 5: can't get this pass in Congress. In other words, the
[20:02] Speaker 5: people of the United States don't want this to be law,
[20:06] Speaker 5: so we need you, the Supreme Court, to make law
[20:09] Speaker 5: where no law exists. And they did, and they did
[20:13] Speaker 5: it over and over again, from Roe v. Wade all
[20:15] Speaker 5: the way to a whole bunch of other things. They
[20:17] Speaker 5: just said, we're going to make up a law. We're
[20:19] Speaker 5: going to make up a right that's not in the Constitution.
[20:23] Speaker 5: And who's going to stop us with the Supreme Court. Well,
[20:26] Speaker 5: of course, now we've got a new Supreme Court different makeup.
[20:28] Speaker 5: Thank you, Donald Trump. He did exactly what he said
[20:30] Speaker 5: he was going to do. And all you people who
[20:32] Speaker 5: say he's not doing enough for us, he gave us
[20:34] Speaker 5: this Supreme Court, and we're winning because of this Supreme Court,
[20:42] Speaker 5: and a number of those decisions made by the super
[20:45] Speaker 5: leftist liberal courts of the past are being overturned over
[20:50] Speaker 5: and over again. And that's about to happen on more
[20:52] Speaker 5: gun cases. It's going to be fascinating to watch. Mark
[21:01] Speaker 5: coursed a weigh in on this online too. Hey, Mark,
[21:04] Speaker 5: you got a comment about Justice Ktanji brown Jackson.
[21:08] Speaker 10: Well you should be bringing to Katanji Brownes Jackson's attention
[21:12] Speaker 10: that she made it made a mistake here. We want
[21:15] Speaker 10: her to keep going and keep going on making mistakes
[21:18] Speaker 10: like that. You know, there is an old thing. I
[21:20] Speaker 10: think it was some sun view or something that was
[21:24] Speaker 10: making a mistake. Don't interrupt them.
[21:26] Speaker 5: Don't interrupt them, you know. But the thing is, you
[21:28] Speaker 5: would be and I would agree with you normally if
[21:31] Speaker 5: we were dealing with somebody who I thought would actually
[21:33] Speaker 5: recognize what we were saying and understand that she screwed up.
[21:36] Speaker 5: But I don't think that's possible in this case, because
[21:39] Speaker 5: I don't think her record shows that she's capable of
[21:41] Speaker 5: understanding what she just did or the ramifications of it,
[21:45] Speaker 5: or that her dissent in this gun case is actually
[21:49] Speaker 5: going to be used to bolster more gun rights cases.
[21:52] Speaker 5: And it will. I mean, it's already has been. There
[21:55] Speaker 5: have been several letters sent to courts in the last
[21:58] Speaker 5: two or three days quoting Justice Catangie Brown Jackson and saying,
[22:06] Speaker 5: because of what she said, we need to go back
[22:08] Speaker 5: and look at these other cases which we lost at
[22:11] Speaker 5: the lower court. I mean, it's an amazing time. And
[22:14] Speaker 5: that's not even to talk about what's going on in Virginia.
[22:16] Speaker 5: But we now have a temporary injunction on the enact
[22:20] Speaker 5: re enforcement of this AR fifteen band there. We'll have
[22:24] Speaker 5: an update on that in about thirty minutes. Here a
[22:26] Speaker 5: lot of stuff going on. What's on your mind, Give
[22:29] Speaker 5: me a shout, we'll talk about it. I'm Tom Gresher.
[22:38] Speaker 5: I'm glad you're here. I'm glad i'm here. I'm Tom Gresher,
[22:40] Speaker 5: and this is gun Talk. You can see some of
[22:41] Speaker 5: the other things we do over at guntalk dot com,
[22:45] Speaker 5: or just look for gun talk online with your web searches.
[22:48] Speaker 5: We have a massive Facebook page now. It's incredible. It
[22:51] Speaker 5: keeps going, I mean by hundreds of thousands of followers
[22:56] Speaker 5: at a time. It's quite amazing. So go follow gun
[22:59] Speaker 5: talk media over on Facebook. We put a lot of
[23:02] Speaker 5: videos there that you can't see other places because frankly,
[23:06] Speaker 5: YouTube doesn't like gun videos keeps taking them down, but
[23:09] Speaker 5: we can put them up on Facebook. So you can
[23:12] Speaker 5: take a look at those there, and oh, a lot
[23:14] Speaker 5: of them are sixty seconds or less, but fun stuff,
[23:17] Speaker 5: cool stuff. I spent a fair amount of time over
[23:21] Speaker 5: on x you know, the formerly known as Twitter place.
[23:26] Speaker 5: It's a good place for having conversations and putting out information,
[23:29] Speaker 5: And if you follow me over there, I am at
[23:32] Speaker 5: gun Talk on X you'll see a lot of the
[23:36] Speaker 5: stories that I link to a lot of it's just
[23:38] Speaker 5: sharing information. And then every once in a while, because
[23:42] Speaker 5: that's what I do, I poked the bear. I stirred
[23:46] Speaker 5: up a little bit. Yeah, big surprise, right, And did
[23:49] Speaker 5: that a couple of days ago because somebody online had
[23:53] Speaker 5: posted he sentially, if I remember it right, that he
[23:59] Speaker 5: has plastic strucker fired guns. He's got the modern plastic pistols,
[24:07] Speaker 5: he says, but he likes to carry his nineteen eleven
[24:11] Speaker 5: says because those plastic guns have no soul. I thought
[24:16] Speaker 5: that was an interesting thought. So I put that up
[24:20] Speaker 5: and let the follies begin, and you got the typical
[24:26] Speaker 5: reaction of the anti nineteen eleven folks. You've got the
[24:31] Speaker 5: folks who say, yeah, that novel, enough, ammo. You got
[24:35] Speaker 5: something to say, Yeah, guns don't have souls. Yeah no,
[24:37] Speaker 5: it's not they don't have a soul. They have soul.
[24:40] Speaker 5: It's a different thing. Or you just have a feeling
[24:43] Speaker 5: about a gun. Sometimes I put it this way, sometimes
[24:48] Speaker 5: you just choose to carry a gun because you like
[24:52] Speaker 5: that gun. Can I make an argument that it makes
[24:59] Speaker 5: a lot of sense to have it nine milimeters with
[25:01] Speaker 5: twenty one rounds in it, and you're plastic, fantastic with
[25:04] Speaker 5: red dots, sight and a weapon mounted light. Yeah. Absolutely,
[25:08] Speaker 5: is that what I carried. No, it's not for any
[25:12] Speaker 5: number of reasons. I I do understand how people say, well,
[25:20] Speaker 5: it's not practical, it's not logical, it's not the most efficient,
[25:24] Speaker 5: it's not the most effective. I understand all that. And
[25:29] Speaker 5: if you told me today you're gonna have to go
[25:30] Speaker 5: into a battle of something, I pick up one of those.
[25:34] Speaker 5: But for what I'm gonna carry all day every day,
[25:36] Speaker 5: the thing I'm gonna put on each day, I kind
[25:40] Speaker 5: of want to like the gun, if that makes any sense.
[25:47] Speaker 5: And as I say, sometimes it's a P three sixty
[25:50] Speaker 5: five in some variations. Sometimes it's an M and P.
[25:52] Speaker 5: Sometimes it's a shield, Sometimes it's a ruger. Sometimes it's
[25:55] Speaker 5: the Smith and Western Bodyguard two point zero three eighty,
[26:00] Speaker 5: and sometimes it's a nineteen eleven. Because I don't know why.
[26:04] Speaker 5: Sometimes it makes no sense, not even to me. Now. Oh,
[26:08] Speaker 5: I'm just going to carry this today because I like
[26:10] Speaker 5: it fair enough. I mentioned the guy at the range yesterday.
[26:17] Speaker 5: This is an outdoor range in public range, but it's
[26:21] Speaker 5: self regulated members. We unlocked the gate and I go
[26:26] Speaker 5: and there's a guy at one of the bays, outdoor bays,
[26:29] Speaker 5: and so I decided to go two down from him,
[26:31] Speaker 5: park over there. I don't want to bother him. And
[26:35] Speaker 5: then I realized I had forgotten my stapler. I've been
[26:37] Speaker 5: switching range bags around and it wasn't in my bag,
[26:40] Speaker 5: and so I walked over to him and say he
[26:42] Speaker 5: wouldn't have to have a state rocket bar. He says, oh, yeah, sure,
[26:45] Speaker 5: So I borrow a state prog, go over and put
[26:47] Speaker 5: my targets up. I take it back to him. He says,
[26:50] Speaker 5: you know, this is an odd question. It's long shot,
[26:55] Speaker 5: because he had no idea what I was doing there,
[26:57] Speaker 5: what I was shooting. He says, you just happened to
[27:01] Speaker 5: have a magazine for a nineteen eleven would you? Yeah? Obviously,
[27:06] Speaker 5: I smiled. I said, well, do you need nine millimeter
[27:10] Speaker 5: or forty five? Because I got both? He said, well
[27:13] Speaker 5: forty five. I said, okay, yeah, come on over. So
[27:16] Speaker 5: I flipped up with a bag and it had I
[27:17] Speaker 5: think I had twelve mags for forty five nineteen elevens.
[27:22] Speaker 5: He said, well, I just got this nineteen eleven from
[27:27] Speaker 5: the Saville Marketmanship Program CMP. It's made in nineteen forty five.
[27:32] Speaker 5: It's an ithaca and it looks real stock, and it
[27:36] Speaker 5: looks like it hadn't been refinished by an armor. I said, well, yeah,
[27:39] Speaker 5: I want to go see that. So we walked over
[27:41] Speaker 5: there and looked at that. It was a chance to
[27:42] Speaker 5: show this fifteen year oldho was with me a little
[27:44] Speaker 5: bit about old guns and the lure or the a
[27:48] Speaker 5: lure of old historic guns. And this guy, Doug, by
[27:53] Speaker 5: the way, it meet good to beat you. Doug. He
[27:56] Speaker 5: likes military guns, and so we talked about studying history
[27:59] Speaker 5: through studying guns that he had not heard of nor
[28:02] Speaker 5: been to the Code Museum. So I recommended he run
[28:04] Speaker 5: out there. At some point we just said a good time.
[28:07] Speaker 5: It's fun looking at stuff like that. You never know.
[28:13] Speaker 5: And going back to this idea of this gun doesn't
[28:17] Speaker 5: have a soul, it's not really that. It's not that
[28:19] Speaker 5: that doesn't have soul, it's just it doesn't speak to me.
[28:23] Speaker 5: And so I guess let me throw this question out.
[28:24] Speaker 5: We'll put this question on the floor. Are there guns
[28:29] Speaker 5: that speak to you? Handgun, rifle, shotgun? You just go Yeah.
[28:32] Speaker 5: When I picked that up, I just love the way
[28:35] Speaker 5: it feels. I love the way it looks. He may
[28:39] Speaker 5: not even be the most practical. It's like our caller
[28:41] Speaker 5: who took a single shot rifle to Africa had a
[28:45] Speaker 5: pump action rifle to Africa hot with Is that the
[28:49] Speaker 5: most efficient or most practical? Of course it's not, but
[28:54] Speaker 5: every time he picks them up, it makes him feel good.
[28:57] Speaker 5: Pretty interesting. Let's go line three. A rock is with
[29:00] Speaker 5: us out of Treemont, Utah, where I have stayed in Tremont.
[29:05] Speaker 5: I do you believe I do it? Sir?
[29:08] Speaker 7: Hey Tom, how are you so?
[29:10] Speaker 5: You got the bowling alley there with the great big
[29:12] Speaker 5: bowling piano and the grill restaurant right behind it? Right?
[29:16] Speaker 10: Yeah?
[29:18] Speaker 3: See.
[29:19] Speaker 7: I saw a Springfield nineteen oh three listed for sale
[29:22] Speaker 7: the other day in my area, and I went down
[29:25] Speaker 7: the rabbit hole and did a bunch of research, and
[29:28] Speaker 7: I was like, man, I better, I got to have
[29:30] Speaker 7: that gun. That looks really cool. So I went and
[29:33] Speaker 7: picked it up. And you know, it's not the latest
[29:36] Speaker 7: and greatest and might not have the best trigger, but
[29:38] Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, it's a hoot to shoot, and
[29:41] Speaker 7: it's really cool to be able to to shoot something
[29:44] Speaker 7: that's one hundred years old. I mean, who can say
[29:46] Speaker 7: that about their gun?
[29:48] Speaker 5: Well, you know, we don't drive cars at one hundred
[29:52] Speaker 5: years old. Actually, there's hardly almost anything that we use. Well,
[29:56] Speaker 5: we may buy something that's one hundred years old, we're
[29:59] Speaker 5: not going to go out and I mean, like you
[30:01] Speaker 5: wouldn't be bothered taking that out and saying I'm going
[30:03] Speaker 5: to go shoot a hundred rounds through this rifle. Do
[30:05] Speaker 5: you think, yeah, big deal, it'll do that.
[30:07] Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, It's just it's really neat. It's
[30:12] Speaker 7: cool to have something that historical with you know, as
[30:15] Speaker 7: much history behind it as it does going through two
[30:18] Speaker 7: world wars. And you know that's that's pretty cool to
[30:21] Speaker 7: have that.
[30:21] Speaker 5: So what got you interested in that in the first place.
[30:27] Speaker 7: Well, it just looked really cool and I just started
[30:29] Speaker 7: doing research and you know, found out it's the predecessor
[30:34] Speaker 7: to the M one and just I like the old
[30:38] Speaker 7: old war guns and I thought that'd be really cool
[30:41] Speaker 7: to have in the collection and shoot because I don't
[30:43] Speaker 7: want it to sit in the safe. And I'll tell
[30:45] Speaker 7: you what, that thirty out six will do just about
[30:47] Speaker 7: anything I needed too.
[30:48] Speaker 5: So yes, there will, So do you have other military guns?
[30:53] Speaker 10: I don't.
[30:54] Speaker 7: This is my first one, so pretty happy with Oh oh
[30:57] Speaker 7: you poor baby. Yeah, well, I'm sure there'll be more.
[31:03] Speaker 7: But I also had a quick comment, if you've got
[31:06] Speaker 7: a second, you bet so. I know I've talked about
[31:12] Speaker 7: people saying, oh, I live in a safe area, and
[31:15] Speaker 7: you know this is a safe town to live in.
[31:16] Speaker 7: But if you're saying that to yourself, you're really kidding yourself,
[31:20] Speaker 7: because nobody's nowhere is really safe. I mean, we have
[31:25] Speaker 7: nicer areas, but there's a lot of a lot of
[31:29] Speaker 7: interesting people out there. And if you're not you can
[31:33] Speaker 7: steel caring. I mean, you've said it many times on
[31:36] Speaker 7: your show. You're you're the first responder. You're the one
[31:39] Speaker 7: that's responsible for yourself and your family safety and you
[31:44] Speaker 7: can't leave that up to chance.
[31:47] Speaker 5: Yeah, and evil travels and middle illness can pop up anywhere,
[31:53] Speaker 5: and it happens when you least expect it. And yeah,
[31:57] Speaker 5: you're exactly right. So what are you carrying?
[32:01] Speaker 7: So I've got my tars G three C right now
[32:04] Speaker 7: that I called in last or a couple of weeks ago,
[32:07] Speaker 7: and I'll probably be switching to a nineteen eleven style
[32:10] Speaker 7: pistol here when I can.
[32:13] Speaker 5: Well, there's a classic that it's modernized. You can get
[32:16] Speaker 5: a modern one, but it traces its roots all the
[32:18] Speaker 5: way back to the same era as your three Springfield.
[32:21] Speaker 5: So good on you look, thank you for the call,
[32:24] Speaker 5: sir of congratulations on getting that rifle. And as I say,
[32:28] Speaker 5: I think that's going to be your entry, your gateway
[32:31] Speaker 5: drug into the world of military firearms. It is a
[32:34] Speaker 5: cool place to be. I appreciate that this idea of
[32:38] Speaker 5: I live in a safe place, so I don't need
[32:40] Speaker 5: to carry or I feel good here. Yeah, I get
[32:44] Speaker 5: to understand that, and I get it that carrying a gun,
[32:50] Speaker 5: so it's a hassle. It's heavy, it's bulky. You gotta
[32:55] Speaker 5: have a cover garment. If you're carrying concealed you got
[32:58] Speaker 5: to be aware of where you're going. Can I carry
[32:59] Speaker 5: you that? I can't carry you there. I understand all that.
[33:04] Speaker 5: And yet let me turn it around a different way.
[33:07] Speaker 5: Rather than be telling you something, let me ask you something.
[33:10] Speaker 5: How do you prepare? How do you propose to protect
[33:16] Speaker 5: your family? What are you going to do? Crazy crazy
[33:23] Speaker 5: pops up You're at the gas station and crazy walks
[33:26] Speaker 5: up to you, or if there's two or three of
[33:28] Speaker 5: them or evil and they want to rob you. They
[33:30] Speaker 5: want to carjack you, with your your wife in the car,
[33:34] Speaker 5: with your kid in the car, with your grandparents in
[33:36] Speaker 5: the car. What are you going to do? Well, I've
[33:44] Speaker 5: got my phone. Do you realize that lame? That is
[33:49] Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you whatever happens is going to be
[33:55] Speaker 5: over in the next ten seconds, And expecting and hoping
[34:02] Speaker 5: and asking for mercy from the people who have no
[34:06] Speaker 5: mercy is going to be a disaster. I don't understand it,
[34:16] Speaker 5: and I do understand that there's a different way of thinking.
[34:19] Speaker 5: Different people have different ways of thinking, and part of
[34:21] Speaker 5: it is a protection mechanism of I don't want to
[34:24] Speaker 5: think about it. It makes me uncomfortable to think about it,
[34:26] Speaker 5: so I won't think about it. If I don't think
[34:28] Speaker 5: about it, then I won't do it. But if you
[34:30] Speaker 5: tell me I have to carry a gun, then I
[34:32] Speaker 5: have to actually think about the fact that there are
[34:33] Speaker 5: bad people out there, and that makes me uncomfortable, so
[34:35] Speaker 5: I choose not to think about it. Now, people won't
[34:38] Speaker 5: go through that and actually say it out loud, but
[34:41] Speaker 5: in many cases, I really do believe that's what's going on.
[34:46] Speaker 5: It's the fingers in the ear and I can't hear
[34:49] Speaker 5: you thing. If I ignore it, it doesn't exist. Well, trust me,
[34:56] Speaker 5: it does exist. It's there. You're walking past it every day,
[35:06] Speaker 5: and you know, we're lucky that it doesn't explode upon
[35:10] Speaker 5: us every day. But it's right there. You're walking past
[35:14] Speaker 5: convicted felons, you're walking past child predators, you're walking past
[35:21] Speaker 5: mentally challenged, violently mentally challenged people every day. And what
[35:29] Speaker 5: you're going to take to set one up, I don't know.
[35:30] Speaker 5: You bump into one and you can say excuse me,
[35:32] Speaker 5: and they just think that's the most terrible thing in
[35:34] Speaker 5: the world. Now comes a knife. Now, what are you
[35:40] Speaker 5: prepared to do? It's not a philosophical question, it's not
[35:48] Speaker 5: an academic question. It's a reality of life question. And look,
[35:56] Speaker 5: you know, once again, I don't understand it exactly, but
[35:58] Speaker 5: some people are not mentally prepared to take care of themselves.
[36:04] Speaker 5: If you ask them if they've ever changed a tire,
[36:06] Speaker 5: they don't know how. If you ask them if they
[36:09] Speaker 5: have a fire extinguisher in their house, they look at
[36:11] Speaker 5: you with the blank expression. Do you have a first
[36:15] Speaker 5: aid kit? We've got some band aids back there. I think.
[36:20] Speaker 5: I'm not sure. It's a way of think. It's a
[36:26] Speaker 5: way of living that is foreign to me. And did
[36:29] Speaker 5: they look it's choice, you can choose that, I think. However,
[36:35] Speaker 5: if you're listening to this show, that's probably not where
[36:38] Speaker 5: you are. You're somewhere in the middle. I mean a
[36:40] Speaker 5: lot of you are already carrying. You made the commitment.
[36:44] Speaker 5: Maybe you haven't committed far enough, because buying a gun
[36:48] Speaker 5: is not enough. Getting retal training really makes a difference.
[36:53] Speaker 5: A lot of people are saying, yeah, I've got a gun,
[36:54] Speaker 5: but I don't carry. Okay, Well I've got a gun
[36:59] Speaker 5: and I shoot it once or twice a year. I'm sorry,
[37:03] Speaker 5: it's not enough. This eventually, ultimately is going to come
[37:10] Speaker 5: down to your self image and maybe that helps you.
[37:16] Speaker 5: Maybe it does, and I don't know, but it's a
[37:19] Speaker 5: case of who am I really? And you're known by
[37:24] Speaker 5: your actions, not by what you say. Well, I'm a
[37:26] Speaker 5: good person, Okay, cool, I got that. I'll give you that,
[37:29] Speaker 5: you know, And I would do anything for my family,
[37:32] Speaker 5: really would you? Are you I die for my family?
[37:40] Speaker 5: Well that doesn't really help your family. You don't understand that, right?
[37:43] Speaker 5: People say, well, I'll die for my family. That's not
[37:46] Speaker 5: helping anybody. It's terrible, it'd be tragic, could be a
[37:51] Speaker 5: horrible thing for your family, not to mention the fact
[37:55] Speaker 5: that you might not be the only one. How about
[37:59] Speaker 5: I would do anything to protect my family, and I'm
[38:01] Speaker 5: taking steps towards that. Huh. I don't know. I'm not sure.
[38:12] Speaker 5: But maybe you've got a better way of explaining this.
[38:15] Speaker 5: Maybe you've got a better way of explaining your outlook
[38:19] Speaker 5: and how you approach this, because I've tried to explain this,
[38:25] Speaker 5: and I know that a lot of you get it,
[38:27] Speaker 5: but I know that there are a lot of people
[38:28] Speaker 5: who don't. Is there something you have said or a
[38:31] Speaker 5: way you have a kind of explaining this to other
[38:36] Speaker 5: people that has been effective that helps them understand where
[38:41] Speaker 5: you are, how you go about your life. You're a
[38:44] Speaker 5: different person, you know, when you make the commitment to
[38:48] Speaker 5: take care of yourself, to protect yourself and protect your family,
[38:50] Speaker 5: you do, in fact become a different person. And I
[38:54] Speaker 5: got to tell you, I like that person. I like
[38:56] Speaker 5: that person who says, yeah, you're not hurting me, and
[38:59] Speaker 5: you're not hurting my kids, and you're not hurting my wife.
[39:02] Speaker 5: And I will not let that happen. It's not a
[39:05] Speaker 5: case of uji. I'm going to bulk up and I'm
[39:07] Speaker 5: going to you know, punch you in the nose. I'm sorry,
[39:09] Speaker 5: that's not going to get it. I'm not going to
[39:11] Speaker 5: let that happen. Starts today and continues with what you
[39:15] Speaker 5: do each day as you move forward. How have you
[39:18] Speaker 5: explained it to others? Give me a call at Tom
[39:21] Speaker 5: Talk gun Hey, don't forget how the American Revolution started.
[39:33] Speaker 5: The British came to confescate gun it was gun control.
[39:38] Speaker 5: They came to pick up the guns and the powder.
[39:41] Speaker 5: So we shot them and we started a war, and
[39:44] Speaker 5: we beat them and we formed our own country. So
[39:48] Speaker 5: we've had two hundred and fifty years of freedom based
[39:51] Speaker 5: on opposing gun control. Oh and by the way, I
[39:55] Speaker 5: just did a few minutes. We're going to have an
[39:56] Speaker 5: update from Virginia and what's going on there. It's quite confusing,
[39:59] Speaker 5: in a mess. We're going to get a real world
[40:02] Speaker 5: last minute, because this gun ban a schedule to go
[40:05] Speaker 5: into effect next week, temporary injunction on it's a forment enforcement.
[40:09] Speaker 5: We'll see how that all breaks down. Let's go line five.
[40:12] Speaker 5: Paul's with us out of Fargo. North Dakota, Paul, how
[40:14] Speaker 5: do you talk to somebody about self defense?
[40:19] Speaker 11: I'd like to say that one. I'm I'm a veteran
[40:23] Speaker 11: and I served fifteen years and I was on special Group,
[40:26] Speaker 11: special operations, and I've been teaching martial arts for over
[40:29] Speaker 11: forty five years and I will teach combat arts. And
[40:32] Speaker 11: one of the things I always tell people is you
[40:35] Speaker 11: really did mention it on the head is how are
[40:37] Speaker 11: you going to protect your family and loved ones if
[40:40] Speaker 11: you are not able to protect yourself. So one of
[40:43] Speaker 11: the things I did with a couple of students that
[40:46] Speaker 11: came to me is and I know many people can't
[40:49] Speaker 11: do this, is that they went out and then we
[40:53] Speaker 11: actually did a preempt home invasion and see how you react.
[41:00] Speaker 11: And they realized that they couldn't do it, and they
[41:02] Speaker 11: realized that they needed to training. Many people don't take
[41:06] Speaker 11: the circumstances of the situations that come in the streets
[41:10] Speaker 11: or at home or anywhere very personal. But if so,
[41:15] Speaker 11: how I mentioned it to them is that you know,
[41:17] Speaker 11: life is worth giving and life is worth protecting, and
[41:21] Speaker 11: why aren't you protecting your loved ones? And they didn't
[41:25] Speaker 11: take it seriously.
[41:27] Speaker 5: Well, I like that you've got to make it personal
[41:30] Speaker 5: to them and say, you know this person. And I
[41:33] Speaker 5: was telling, look, if this person kills you, he actually
[41:35] Speaker 5: kills everybody you know, because to you, they're all gone.
[41:40] Speaker 5: And also it'd be a tragedy to all your friends
[41:42] Speaker 5: and neighbors and your family if you get killed. So
[41:45] Speaker 5: why would you let that happen to your family? So
[41:48] Speaker 5: you're right, you got to protect yourself so that you
[41:50] Speaker 5: can then protect them. Paul, thank you so much for
[41:53] Speaker 5: the call. I appreciate what you're doing out there. We
[41:55] Speaker 5: do kind of a similar thing with our First Person
[41:57] Speaker 5: Defender video series. You can go check that out on
[42:00] Speaker 5: YouTube and just look for a first Person Offender under
[42:03] Speaker 5: the gun Talk media channel. There. We take people put
[42:06] Speaker 5: them into a self defense situation. It's a carjacking, a robbery,
[42:09] Speaker 5: a home invasion, you know, a rape scenario, an you know,
[42:14] Speaker 5: grabbing somebody's kid in the parking lot. It goes on
[42:17] Speaker 5: and on, and it is so interesting that they go
[42:20] Speaker 5: into it kind of knowing, all right, we're going to
[42:22] Speaker 5: do this thing, and something's gonna happen. I don't know
[42:24] Speaker 5: exactly what's gonna happen. And it's interesting to me how
[42:27] Speaker 5: many people are a little bit casual about it, a
[42:31] Speaker 5: little bit lackadaisical about it. And then when it happens,
[42:37] Speaker 5: it's no longer a game. They're no longer cameras there,
[42:39] Speaker 5: and it's no longer a scenario. It's real. It's happening
[42:42] Speaker 5: to them. They're being attacked. Somebody's actually trying to snatch
[42:45] Speaker 5: this baby out of their arms, and it becomes real
[42:49] Speaker 5: in a flash. And in most cases they have no
[42:53] Speaker 5: idea what to do, and so they try to do something.
[42:56] Speaker 5: In most cases it's ineffective or wrong. And when we debrief,
[43:01] Speaker 5: we get the two things. One is I never thought
[43:03] Speaker 5: of that, and two, it happened so fast. Yeah, it does.
[43:08] Speaker 5: It's why you don't have time to analyze and figure
[43:12] Speaker 5: it all out. You have to have made a lot
[43:15] Speaker 5: of decisions before it happens. The decision to go arm,
[43:18] Speaker 5: the decision of what you will do, if decision of
[43:20] Speaker 5: how you're going to move, what you're going to do.
[43:23] Speaker 5: If you have all those figured out ahead of time,
[43:26] Speaker 5: it greatly reduces your reaction time because you may have
[43:29] Speaker 5: mere seconds. In fact, you will have mere seconds to react,
[43:34] Speaker 5: save yourself, save your family. So I guess you know
[43:37] Speaker 5: We'll finished up with this question before we are our
[43:39] Speaker 5: next segment here. What are you prepared to do? How
[43:44] Speaker 5: are you going to protect your family? And if you're
[43:47] Speaker 5: not going to protect them, how do you look at
[43:49] Speaker 5: yourself in the mirror? I don't get that all right.
[43:54] Speaker 5: When we come back the very latest what's going on
[43:56] Speaker 5: in Virginia and why you should care because it will
[43:59] Speaker 5: happen to you if they don't stop it. There

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.