# Gun Owners Rally In Iowa; Gun Rights Groups Ban Together; Midterm Madness

An episode of [Gun Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/190516844), 14 Jun 2026, 44 min.

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In This Hour: -- Gun rights groups now work together to make their dollars go farther and to be more effective in fighting for the Second Amendment. Erich Pratt explains what Gun Owners of America does and how its methods have changed through the years. -- America's gun owners plan to gather in Iowa in August for the GOA annual event to further gun rights. -- Midterm elections will determine whether Democrats change the rules to guarantee that they never lose power again. Gun Talk 06.14.26 Hour 3 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.

## Transcript

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[0:31] Speaker 3: All right, we're still here. We're still talking about guns
[0:33] Speaker 3: and gun rights. I'm Tom Gresham. This is Gun Talk.
[0:36] Speaker 3: You can join us. Just give me a call at
[0:38] Speaker 3: Tom Talk Gun. That'll get you in here. It is
[0:41] Speaker 3: a true pleasure to bring in, I believe for the
[0:44] Speaker 3: first time. Eric Pratt from the Gun Owners of America. Eric,
[0:46] Speaker 3: I think this is the first time you've been on
[0:48] Speaker 3: the show, isn't it well?
[0:51] Speaker 4: I certainly don't want to contradict the host, Tom.
[0:54] Speaker 5: It is great to be with you. I do wonder well.
[0:57] Speaker 4: You know, now that I've hit my six decade, I
[1:00] Speaker 4: tend to forget more things than I remember. I could
[1:04] Speaker 4: have sworn. I was on your show once before, and
[1:07] Speaker 4: it could have been with a sub possibly.
[1:11] Speaker 3: Oh that's possible. I may not remember, but then again,
[1:15] Speaker 3: I'm kind of like you. I don't know what I
[1:16] Speaker 3: had for dinner yesterday, so who knows.
[1:20] Speaker 4: It has been a few years, so it is good
[1:22] Speaker 4: to be back with you.
[1:23] Speaker 1: Tom.
[1:23] Speaker 3: Well, it is Gunnurns of America. I mean, let me
[1:26] Speaker 3: just say, Gunnurns of America has been a gun rights
[1:28] Speaker 3: organization active for decades. You have authored some key books,
[1:35] Speaker 3: been named gun Hero of the Day, You've got books
[1:39] Speaker 3: for youngsters on Second Amendment. It just goes on and on,
[1:43] Speaker 3: and I will tell you I just want to throw
[1:46] Speaker 3: this out. I think just watching what you and GA
[1:52] Speaker 3: have been doing for the last five years especially, you've
[1:58] Speaker 3: reached a different level of involvement and cooperation with other
[2:02] Speaker 3: groups and actually just really moving things forward. We're just
[2:06] Speaker 3: we're in a different time now than we were before,
[2:09] Speaker 3: are we not.
[2:11] Speaker 4: It is an exciting time and you know, it's by
[2:14] Speaker 4: God's grace, and we've got a lot of folks at GEOA.
[2:19] Speaker 4: We've been able to put more people, you know, on
[2:23] Speaker 4: the field so to speak, lobbying and legislators and Congress
[2:27] Speaker 4: and the states beef up our legal process. So we've
[2:33] Speaker 4: been winning a lot of victories. I mean, Tom, I've
[2:36] Speaker 4: been doing this since nineteen ninety and you'll probably remember too,
[2:40] Speaker 4: because I think you were fighting the fight back then too,
[2:42] Speaker 4: and victories were very sparse back then. There were now,
[2:48] Speaker 4: you know, especially since the Heller decision, it is just
[2:51] Speaker 4: a new game. Games the wrong word. But it's a
[2:55] Speaker 4: whole new battlefield that we are on and we are
[2:58] Speaker 4: winning I think more victories than we're losing.
[3:02] Speaker 5: I know we.
[3:02] Speaker 4: Sometimes get frustrated with losses here and there, but we
[3:05] Speaker 4: are winning lots of battle and it's really exciting.
[3:09] Speaker 3: It's a good way to put it. It is easy
[3:10] Speaker 3: to get bogged down by the losses. And the battlefield
[3:13] Speaker 3: has changed as we have the Heller decision, we have McDonald,
[3:18] Speaker 3: we have ruined and so we're doing real well, generally speaking,
[3:23] Speaker 3: on the federal level, and so the anti gun industry
[3:26] Speaker 3: has come back in and said, okay, well we're going
[3:28] Speaker 3: to attack them on the state level. And now it's
[3:31] Speaker 3: like greatly increased the number of battles because we have
[3:35] Speaker 3: to go swat all of these flies in the various states.
[3:39] Speaker 3: That costs money for lawyers, and that kind of leads
[3:42] Speaker 3: me to one of the things I wanted to ask
[3:44] Speaker 3: you about. I am seeing cooperation between all of the
[3:48] Speaker 3: gun rights groups at a level I don't think i've
[3:51] Speaker 3: ever seen before.
[3:54] Speaker 4: I think you're right. We've been involved with other groups
[3:58] Speaker 4: Second Amendment Foundation, NRA, you know, as co plaintiffs in battles.
[4:04] Speaker 4: Certainly here you know, I'm here in Virginia. JUAS headquartered
[4:07] Speaker 4: in Virginia, and we've got a great relationship with VCDL,
[4:11] Speaker 4: the Virginia Civil Defense League, and we're of course fighting well.
[4:15] Speaker 4: In fact, we recently had a great victory against the
[4:21] Speaker 4: state Universal background check law, which really is just a
[4:24] Speaker 4: nice way of saying a ban on private sales that
[4:28] Speaker 4: you can't sell privately one to another unless you go
[4:31] Speaker 4: through a registration check. But we beat that here in Virginia,
[4:35] Speaker 4: and now together again we are suing challenging the ban,
[4:41] Speaker 4: and I think we've got a really good shot at
[4:44] Speaker 4: winning this under the Virginia Constitution and the Virginia courts
[4:49] Speaker 4: that we have. I think it would be a much
[4:51] Speaker 4: harder slog in the federal courts. Basically, it's lose, lose,
[4:55] Speaker 4: lose all the way up in this federal district that
[4:58] Speaker 4: we live in here in Virgini until you get to
[5:01] Speaker 4: the Supreme Court.
[5:03] Speaker 3: Well you also, and I don't want to bury this
[5:06] Speaker 3: because I think this is a huge story. Just in
[5:09] Speaker 3: this last week, you just had a major win on
[5:12] Speaker 3: this being in the business rule.
[5:16] Speaker 4: Oh, this is so exciting. Yes, absolutely, yeah, I mean,
[5:20] Speaker 4: you know, the big picture, we've had about ten major
[5:22] Speaker 4: legal victories in the last year, but the one you're
[5:25] Speaker 4: referencing may be the biggest one of the year. And
[5:29] Speaker 4: again this you know, we were just talking about the
[5:32] Speaker 4: private sale ban at the state level in Virginia. Well,
[5:35] Speaker 4: this was Joe Biden's private sale ban. It wasn't passed
[5:39] Speaker 4: by Congress, it was just an executive order. Of course,
[5:42] Speaker 4: it was really about registering every gun sale in the country,
[5:47] Speaker 4: especially private sale. And of course we should say, you know,
[5:51] Speaker 4: we're talking a lot about registration.
[5:53] Speaker 5: Let's just straight up say, what's the problem with that.
[5:55] Speaker 5: It's always a.
[5:56] Speaker 4: First step to confiscation, and that's why we need to
[6:00] Speaker 4: be so wary of this. So anyway, GUA sued the
[6:04] Speaker 4: ATF with the help of Attorney General Ken Paxton in
[6:07] Speaker 4: Texas back in twenty twenty four and we won an
[6:10] Speaker 4: initial injunction on that lawsuit, which the judge applied to
[6:14] Speaker 4: our members only. We were going for more than that,
[6:17] Speaker 4: but he limited it to our members, but Biden's DOJ
[6:21] Speaker 4: continued fighting it. Sadly, the current DOJ didn't fully want
[6:25] Speaker 4: to get rid.
[6:25] Speaker 5: Of the entire Biden rule.
[6:27] Speaker 4: They wanted to maintain a good part of it. So
[6:29] Speaker 4: we kept pursuing our lawsuit and the huge news this
[6:32] Speaker 4: is what you're talking about. On Friday, the judge struck
[6:35] Speaker 4: down the rule completely in our case, it's dead, completely dead,
[6:40] Speaker 4: not even mostly.
[6:41] Speaker 5: Dead like in Princess Bride.
[6:43] Speaker 4: Right, No, this rule is totally and entirely vacated, which means,
[6:49] Speaker 4: and this is what the judge said, the ATF is
[6:51] Speaker 4: not allowed to enforce this rule against anyone and so.
[6:57] Speaker 3: Explain the rules so people know what we're talking about. Place.
[7:00] Speaker 4: So you called it the engaged in the Business rule,
[7:02] Speaker 4: and that's officially what it was known as, which basically
[7:06] Speaker 4: meant that for most private sellers. You know, you want
[7:08] Speaker 4: to sell a gun to a neighbor or somebody at
[7:11] Speaker 4: a gun show, you're not a dealer. You're a private
[7:14] Speaker 4: seller in most cases. If you're going to get a
[7:17] Speaker 4: profit on that gun under the rule, you would have
[7:20] Speaker 4: to become a gun dealer, hence the name engaged in
[7:25] Speaker 4: the business. So it was forcing people to become gun
[7:29] Speaker 4: dealers and look very dangerous repercussions if you did not
[7:36] Speaker 4: become a dealer. I mean, the rule wasn't even enforced yet.
[7:40] Speaker 4: And we all probably have heard of the Brian Malinowski
[7:43] Speaker 4: situation in Arkansas where they charged his home in the
[7:47] Speaker 4: middle of the night, ended up shooting and killing him.
[7:50] Speaker 4: He wasn't accused of any crimes. They were just concerned
[7:54] Speaker 4: that he was buying and selling a lot of guns privately.
[7:57] Speaker 4: I mean, that's the danger of having a rule like this.
[8:03] Speaker 3: Right explained, Brian Malanowski was the director of the airport
[8:08] Speaker 3: in Little Rock, Arkansas. He was a known quantity ever
[8:11] Speaker 3: in the community. You knew him. It's not like this
[8:14] Speaker 3: is a known bad guy. They knew who this guy was,
[8:16] Speaker 3: They knew where he worked, they knew he went to,
[8:18] Speaker 3: where he went to work, and how he got there.
[8:21] Speaker 3: And they could have just gone to his office and said, hey,
[8:23] Speaker 3: can we talk to you. No, no, no, We're going
[8:25] Speaker 3: to kick at his door in the middle of the night,
[8:27] Speaker 3: and when he thinks it's a home invasion and grabs
[8:29] Speaker 3: his gun, they kill him all because he was selling
[8:34] Speaker 3: guns privately without an FFL, which wasn't required. And now,
[8:39] Speaker 3: thanks to you guys, now we know it's not required.
[8:43] Speaker 3: With any luck, we don't have another Brian Melanowski incident.
[8:47] Speaker 5: Right well, and here's the good part.
[8:49] Speaker 4: With this victory in the courts, a future anti gun
[8:53] Speaker 4: administration might still want to bring this back, but they're
[8:55] Speaker 4: first going to have to deal with this court before
[9:00] Speaker 4: they can get back to rewriting executive orders. And I'll
[9:05] Speaker 4: say this too. You know, after our initial victory, and
[9:08] Speaker 4: this was a couple of years ago where they only
[9:10] Speaker 4: limited it to our members, you know that this is
[9:14] Speaker 4: just I think another reminder why it's really good to
[9:17] Speaker 4: keep you know, if you're a member of any gun
[9:20] Speaker 4: rights organization, keep your membership current.
[9:22] Speaker 5: And if you have one with you.
[9:24] Speaker 4: Know, anybody listening who has one with GI, keep it current.
[9:26] Speaker 4: Because we have about thirty lawsuits going on in more
[9:30] Speaker 4: than a dozen states, and when we win, that means
[9:33] Speaker 4: you are protected as a member. So when we want
[9:35] Speaker 4: an adjunction on distol braces, our members were protected. When
[9:39] Speaker 4: we won on universal background checks two years ago, our
[9:42] Speaker 4: members were protected. Now you know we've won this for everybody,
[9:46] Speaker 4: but in that interim, it's good to have that protection.
[9:49] Speaker 4: You remember the old American Express Commercial Right membership has
[9:52] Speaker 4: its privileges. That's kind of what it's like when you're
[9:55] Speaker 4: a member of a gun rights organization that's actively involved
[9:59] Speaker 4: in the cour It really benefits you that way.
[10:01] Speaker 3: It's insurance, absolutely, Eric, I got you. Hold on Steing.
[10:05] Speaker 3: I need to take a quick break. We're talking with
[10:06] Speaker 3: Eric Pratt. When we come back, I want to talk
[10:08] Speaker 3: about another thing that's happening. This is an event that
[10:11] Speaker 3: GOA is holding and it's exciting and you may want
[10:15] Speaker 3: to put this on your calendars. We'll be right back
[10:17] Speaker 3: with Eric Pratt from Gun Owners of America.
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[13:12] Speaker 3: All right, still, I have open lines here if you
[13:14] Speaker 3: want to give us a call eight sixty six Talk
[13:16] Speaker 3: Gun or Tom Talkgun. That'll get you in here. I
[13:19] Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit more with Eric Pratt.
[13:22] Speaker 3: We've got an event coming up with Goals Our goa
[13:26] Speaker 3: the Gun Owners of America. By the way, you go
[13:28] Speaker 3: to gun owners dot org you find out more about it. Eric.
[13:31] Speaker 3: What is goals and what is this all about.
[13:35] Speaker 4: So it's a combination of a huge gun show with
[13:40] Speaker 4: also great speakers. GOALS stands for Gun Owners Advocacy and
[13:45] Speaker 4: Leadership Summit and this year it's going to be in
[13:48] Speaker 4: Des Moines, Iowa, August first and second. And yes, if
[13:52] Speaker 4: people go to gun Owners dot org and then you
[13:54] Speaker 4: just add a slash Goals g o A LS, you
[13:58] Speaker 4: can get information on the speakers and you know hotels
[14:03] Speaker 4: in the area. I should mention it's free for all
[14:06] Speaker 4: GOA members and don't think it's like, you know, you've
[14:09] Speaker 4: got to leave your kids with you know, the grandparents
[14:13] Speaker 4: or something like that. I mean, there is stuff for kids.
[14:15] Speaker 5: So it is.
[14:16] Speaker 4: Family friendly for the whole family to be there. Our
[14:20] Speaker 4: speakers this year, we are really excited. We've got shooters
[14:23] Speaker 4: like Lenna Mitchellik who's going to be there, also Brett Cooper,
[14:27] Speaker 4: she's a big influencer, and Fox News spokesperson Brendan Herrera.
[14:33] Speaker 4: Brandon last year announced his candidacy at GOALS and as
[14:39] Speaker 4: you know, he defeated that anti gun Tony Gonzalez down
[14:42] Speaker 4: there in Texas. So he's coming as basically the representative
[14:47] Speaker 4: elect because I mean, you know, there's really not much
[14:50] Speaker 4: of an opposition now that the primary was the race,
[14:55] Speaker 4: but then you know people like John Lovell and Chad
[14:58] Speaker 4: Prather and others. So we're really looking forward to It's
[15:02] Speaker 4: several acres of guns and accessories and a lot of
[15:05] Speaker 4: the top firms in the industry are going to be there, Brownels, Cannick,
[15:08] Speaker 4: Daniel Defense, PSA. So we'll be announcing more speakers and
[15:13] Speaker 4: more companies that'll be coming. If you follow us on
[15:16] Speaker 4: social media, or maybe if.
[15:19] Speaker 5: You want to get our emails gun owners dot.
[15:21] Speaker 4: Org slash subscribe. That way you'll get not only our
[15:25] Speaker 4: legislative emails, but also find out more about goals and
[15:29] Speaker 4: see what's coming up next.
[15:31] Speaker 3: It's August one and two. It's a Saturday and Sunday
[15:34] Speaker 3: in Des Moines, Iowa, middle of the country, a family
[15:38] Speaker 3: friendly event where you can go and get your battery recharged.
[15:42] Speaker 3: In terms of gun rights and activism and Eric, one
[15:47] Speaker 3: of the things I find is that there are a
[15:48] Speaker 3: lot of people who want to be activists for the
[15:52] Speaker 3: Second Amendment and don't really know how to be effective
[15:56] Speaker 3: because there's a lot of things you can do. You
[15:58] Speaker 3: can go postuff online, but all you really doing a
[16:01] Speaker 3: lot of times is making yourself feel good. It's not
[16:03] Speaker 3: really a way to move the needle or move the
[16:05] Speaker 3: ball forward a little bit, is it.
[16:08] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[16:08] Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the really exciting things
[16:11] Speaker 4: about this conference is that it is aimed at activating people. So,
[16:16] Speaker 4: you know, you talked about getting your batteries recharged. I mean,
[16:20] Speaker 4: it's you know, if you're a Christian, you think of
[16:23] Speaker 4: it as church, but it's like.
[16:25] Speaker 5: For gun owners.
[16:25] Speaker 4: I mean, because you really do come out of there
[16:28] Speaker 4: just being totally refreshed, just having been with like minded people.
[16:33] Speaker 4: But at the same time, we're trying to encourage people,
[16:35] Speaker 4: like for example, two years ago when we had the
[16:37] Speaker 4: big presidential election, the big push was, hey, there's ten
[16:42] Speaker 4: million gun owners that aren't registered. Go find three of them,
[16:45] Speaker 4: maybe friends, family, whatever, get them registered, get them to
[16:49] Speaker 4: the polls. And we heard back from people that had
[16:52] Speaker 4: a huge impact. People did that, and so anyway, that's
[16:57] Speaker 4: the kind of thing that this conference is aimed at
[17:00] Speaker 4: trying to do, is not just have fun, not just
[17:02] Speaker 4: have a lot of guns in gear, but also really
[17:04] Speaker 4: encourage people to make a difference.
[17:06] Speaker 3: Now it's one thing to say, yeah, I'm a Second
[17:08] Speaker 3: Amendment supporter, that's great, we need that, But what we
[17:11] Speaker 3: really need is people who work, and not just work,
[17:14] Speaker 3: but work effectively for the Second Amendment. And I love
[17:18] Speaker 3: your idea of getting people to go make sure their
[17:22] Speaker 3: friends are registered to vote. We got the midterms coming up,
[17:26] Speaker 3: and I cannot think of a more consequential midterm election
[17:29] Speaker 3: than what we've got coming right now.
[17:32] Speaker 4: I know, we almost get tired of saying it each
[17:34] Speaker 4: two years, right like this one is the most important.
[17:37] Speaker 4: I know what happens if the other side wins. The
[17:40] Speaker 4: other side who wants to take our guns. They've already
[17:42] Speaker 4: said what they're going to do. They're going to eliminate
[17:44] Speaker 4: the filibuster in the Senate. They're gonna slam all kinds
[17:48] Speaker 4: of gun bands through. They're going to pack the Supreme
[17:50] Speaker 4: Court so Heller and Bruin will be overturned. They're going
[17:54] Speaker 4: to add you know, like DC as a new state,
[17:57] Speaker 4: so they'll get.
[17:58] Speaker 5: Two new senators.
[17:59] Speaker 4: I mean, they are going to try to empower themselves
[18:03] Speaker 4: to never lose power again. And so it really is important.
[18:07] Speaker 4: You know, we have to keep winning every time. They
[18:10] Speaker 4: only have to win once and then they change the whole,
[18:13] Speaker 4: you know, the whole battlefield. I mean, so it's yeah,
[18:15] Speaker 4: we do need to stay active.
[18:18] Speaker 3: Eric, you said something in the middle there. I want
[18:20] Speaker 3: to make sure people didn't miss because it went by
[18:24] Speaker 3: in a hurry. But they're going to set it up
[18:27] Speaker 3: so they never lose power again. And what they're going
[18:31] Speaker 3: to do is it's not just like, Okay, we're very
[18:33] Speaker 3: in for the next two years. No, no, no. They
[18:35] Speaker 3: want to change the structure, the very structure of how
[18:40] Speaker 3: elections are done, the very structure of how the Supreme
[18:43] Speaker 3: Court operates, so that they literally will never lose power again.
[18:49] Speaker 3: If they can't lose power, because they will control all
[18:52] Speaker 3: the levers. This is and it's not like we're guessing
[18:55] Speaker 3: this is what they're going to do. They're actually out
[18:57] Speaker 3: in the open. They're saying, Look, this is exactly what
[18:59] Speaker 3: we're going to do. We are going to impeach the president.
[19:01] Speaker 3: We're going to pack the Supreme Court. We're going to
[19:03] Speaker 3: make sure that we overturn Heller and Brewin and any
[19:06] Speaker 3: other gun rights or decision. We're going to do anything
[19:10] Speaker 3: we want to, whether or not is actually constitutional, because
[19:15] Speaker 3: the only thing that matters to them is power.
[19:18] Speaker 4: That's absolutely right for them, that this is their church
[19:23] Speaker 4: is power controlling the levers of power, and so again
[19:29] Speaker 4: gun owners dot org slash goals August first and second,
[19:34] Speaker 4: if you're a GA member or you become a GA member,
[19:37] Speaker 4: it's free for you.
[19:39] Speaker 5: Just get there.
[19:39] Speaker 4: This is going to be a good time of encouragement.
[19:43] Speaker 4: But you're also going to just have fun, you know,
[19:46] Speaker 4: listening to the speakers and meeting a lot of good
[19:49] Speaker 4: folks that think like you.
[19:51] Speaker 3: And it's in the summer as kids for the most part,
[19:54] Speaker 3: are still all out of school. You can bring the family,
[19:58] Speaker 3: bring the kids. It's going to be a fun you know, Yeah,
[20:01] Speaker 3: they'll see the guns and all, but you're also educating
[20:04] Speaker 3: them about being a part of America and being a
[20:07] Speaker 3: responsible citizen.
[20:09] Speaker 4: Well, I should say that the activities we have for
[20:12] Speaker 4: kids also do involve a lot of educational activities for them,
[20:16] Speaker 4: so you're spot on with that. And by the way,
[20:18] Speaker 4: when you go to the site at gun owners dot
[20:20] Speaker 4: org slash goals to sign up, there's also add on
[20:23] Speaker 4: So if you want to attend the Women's Brunch or
[20:26] Speaker 4: the Hunter's luncheon or the Prayer breakfast, there's also an
[20:30] Speaker 4: outreach a brunch for which is our Latino outreach. So
[20:38] Speaker 4: I mean there's something for everybody there almost everybody, right,
[20:42] Speaker 4: So so check that out on the site too. We'd
[20:45] Speaker 4: love to have people come in and packing it out.
[20:47] Speaker 5: For those special activities.
[20:49] Speaker 3: And Eric, one of the things that you may not know,
[20:51] Speaker 3: but one of the things I've said for many, many
[20:53] Speaker 3: years is to everybody, you need to belong to more
[20:57] Speaker 3: than one group that people say, well I belong to Okay, great,
[21:00] Speaker 3: that's wonderful, and I'm glad that you do. But there
[21:03] Speaker 3: are a lot of different gun rights groups, maybe four
[21:07] Speaker 3: or five big ones, and you can belong to more
[21:11] Speaker 3: than one. It's like, well, I'm a member of SAFF. Okay,
[21:14] Speaker 3: that's good, nothing wrong with that. But you need to
[21:17] Speaker 3: belong to other groups because every group is important and
[21:22] Speaker 3: what GOA is doing is just as important as what
[21:25] Speaker 3: NRA or NSSF or SAFF or FBC and they're all
[21:29] Speaker 3: working together now. I mean, and I know I sound
[21:31] Speaker 3: like a broken record sometimes, but it's like, just get involved,
[21:35] Speaker 3: spend the money and support it, and look, I got
[21:38] Speaker 3: to scoot out here, tell them one more time about
[21:41] Speaker 3: goals and why they need to be there. You got
[21:43] Speaker 3: thirty seconds. Give it to them.
[21:44] Speaker 5: Absolutely.
[21:45] Speaker 4: So Gunowners dot org, slash goals.
[21:49] Speaker 5: That's where you.
[21:50] Speaker 4: Can check out the speakers, you can check out the
[21:53] Speaker 4: gun companies that are going to be there. It's really
[21:55] Speaker 4: important for maintaining and preserving our freedoms are liberties for
[22:01] Speaker 4: us and for the next generation. So come on out.
[22:05] Speaker 4: I'd love to meet you and look forward to seeing
[22:07] Speaker 4: you there.
[22:09] Speaker 3: Eric Prett, well done, Thank you, sir. I appreciate what
[22:11] Speaker 3: you're doing, and you're welcome back here anytime.
[22:14] Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Tom, thank you, all right.
[22:16] Speaker 3: You take care there you go, so des Moines August
[22:21] Speaker 3: one and two. Check it out. Might be worth going
[22:23] Speaker 3: to open lines now eight six six Talk gun What
[22:27] Speaker 3: are you shooting and what are you thinking about buying.
[22:38] Speaker 3: I've been posting a few things on too X over
[22:41] Speaker 3: the last few days because I'm down here at Range
[22:43] Speaker 3: Ready Studios at the Gun Talk headquarters, and every time
[22:46] Speaker 3: I get down here it's fun. I can go into
[22:48] Speaker 3: the vault and find things that they've been sent for
[22:51] Speaker 3: various TV shows and just basically content they're producing videos,
[22:58] Speaker 3: and sometimes I get to shoot some guns. Of course,
[23:01] Speaker 3: I grab a few run out of the range because
[23:02] Speaker 3: it's thirty seconds from the studio to the range outside
[23:08] Speaker 3: and one I shot I had not shot before. It's
[23:11] Speaker 3: called the arkon Arccho N put a video of it
[23:16] Speaker 3: on X shooting it incredibly low bore axis. The barrel
[23:22] Speaker 3: is very low close to the hand, which reduces the
[23:26] Speaker 3: leverage that it has to twist upward for muzzle flip.
[23:31] Speaker 3: So we're shooting this thing and just the muzzle rise
[23:35] Speaker 3: is almost not existent. It looks like a heavily comped gun,
[23:40] Speaker 3: although it's not. So that was my first time to
[23:42] Speaker 3: shoot that. And then we were shooting the Dan West
[23:45] Speaker 3: and DWX, which is just an amazing gun. It just
[23:49] Speaker 3: honestly makes it easy to hit stuff, really really well done.
[23:53] Speaker 3: And then we shot the Dan West and Guardian, the
[23:56] Speaker 3: little Commander forty five that they have. That was sweet.
[23:59] Speaker 3: So put a lot of pictures up there, some videos.
[24:01] Speaker 3: You might check it out over on X look for me.
[24:04] Speaker 3: I am at gun talk over there on X. Let's
[24:07] Speaker 3: go line five next with us out of Toledo, Ohio. Nick,
[24:10] Speaker 3: Thank you for you pay sence, you're on the air.
[24:12] Speaker 3: What can we do?
[24:14] Speaker 11: Hey Tom? I love your show and listen every time
[24:16] Speaker 11: I can.
[24:17] Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
[24:19] Speaker 11: I wanted to say a couple of things. One, it's
[24:22] Speaker 11: my birthday, today, Well, happy birthday. And it's also Donald
[24:26] Speaker 11: Trump's birthday. He's exactly eleven years older than me.
[24:30] Speaker 3: I'll be dying, okay.
[24:33] Speaker 5: And it's also Flag Day.
[24:35] Speaker 3: So did what are you get for yourself or did
[24:38] Speaker 3: somebody give you for your birthday?
[24:41] Speaker 11: I gave myself a three and a half on salmon.
[24:44] Speaker 11: I'm cooking on the grill right now.
[24:45] Speaker 3: I'm oh nice, We'll be over about half an hour.
[24:51] Speaker 11: That's what I heard.
[24:56] Speaker 3: So you got a story for the reason.
[24:57] Speaker 11: The reason I was calling was my to tell you
[25:00] Speaker 11: real quick. My dad, my uncle, and my Pa Poo
[25:03] Speaker 11: was my grandfather. In the early sixties went out deer
[25:07] Speaker 11: hunting up in Michigan and they went up and they
[25:10] Speaker 11: didn't catch anything. And when they came back down, they
[25:13] Speaker 11: saw a house that had a bunch of deer hanging
[25:15] Speaker 11: from the front of the porch, and they ended up
[25:19] Speaker 11: buying one because they didn't want to go back empty handed.
[25:22] Speaker 11: So they got back home and the lady said, oh,
[25:25] Speaker 11: that's great, great balls, we'll cut this up. They said
[25:28] Speaker 11: who shot it? And they all looked at each other
[25:30] Speaker 11: and they didn't know what to say, so they just
[25:32] Speaker 11: picked my uncle George, where did you hit it. They
[25:37] Speaker 11: hadn't thought about that, so they drove back up into
[25:41] Speaker 11: the country, pulled out a rifle, shot the deer on
[25:44] Speaker 11: the hood of the car, which was a late fifties car,
[25:47] Speaker 11: and they ended up screwing up the engine.
[25:49] Speaker 3: No, oh, my heavings. That's fine, home man. That's one
[25:58] Speaker 3: of those stories I'm sure has been tall many times
[26:00] Speaker 3: in your family.
[26:02] Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I love it. This is a perfect day
[26:05] Speaker 11: to try and get on the show, and this is
[26:07] Speaker 11: my first time trying to so well.
[26:09] Speaker 3: I'm glad you got in and I wish you a
[26:12] Speaker 3: happy birthday. You know, it's not too late to run
[26:14] Speaker 3: out to the gun store pick up something for yourself.
[26:17] Speaker 11: That's tomorrow's plan.
[26:19] Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Appreciate it. Nick, congratulations, Happy birthday, sir.
[26:22] Speaker 3: Thanks for the call. Uh oh I got before I
[26:25] Speaker 3: get to Howard. I'll get to you in just a second.
[26:27] Speaker 3: I went into a Barnes and Noble yesterday and I'm
[26:30] Speaker 3: thinking that maybe somebody in the store has a sense
[26:34] Speaker 3: of humor. I put this picture over on X and
[26:37] Speaker 3: there's these two books next to each other, and you
[26:40] Speaker 3: got the one by the Supreme Court Justice Catanji Brown Jackson,
[26:48] Speaker 3: name of the book. The title of the book is
[26:49] Speaker 3: a Lovely one. And she's looking over her left shoulder
[26:54] Speaker 3: to the right because her book's on the left. And
[26:58] Speaker 3: then the book she's looking into. The book right next
[27:01] Speaker 3: to her is by United States Senator John Kennedy, and
[27:06] Speaker 3: he is looking the opposite direction at Supreme Court Justice
[27:10] Speaker 3: Catanjee Brown Jackson. And the name of his book, the
[27:14] Speaker 3: title is how to Test Negative for Stupid and Why
[27:20] Speaker 3: Washington Never Will. It cannot possibly be an accident that
[27:28] Speaker 3: these books are positioned as they are together there, So
[27:31] Speaker 3: whoever did that at Barnes and Noble, thank you for
[27:34] Speaker 3: the chuckle. I appreciate it. It was not missed. All right,
[27:38] Speaker 3: let's talk to Howard online one out of Ocalla, Florida. Hey, Howard,
[27:41] Speaker 3: you're on gun Talk. What's up?
[27:43] Speaker 12: Well, you asked earlier if we were correctors, and I
[27:48] Speaker 12: am not so much a collector as I am an acquirer.
[27:54] Speaker 12: So I've been acquiring for about twenty five years.
[28:00] Speaker 6: Aha.
[28:00] Speaker 3: Do you have a specific area that you like to
[28:03] Speaker 3: work within?
[28:04] Speaker 12: Well, I thought it acquiring, or I guess you could
[28:07] Speaker 12: say collecting HK. Heckler and Coke late eighties or pre
[28:13] Speaker 12: ban rifles. The ninety one's, the ninety three, the ninety fours,
[28:19] Speaker 12: and then I just kind of branched off into pretty
[28:23] Speaker 12: much every modern sporting rifle. And I've got a few
[28:28] Speaker 12: lever actions, and I want to thank you for telling
[28:32] Speaker 12: me to get a three point fifty seven lever action
[28:35] Speaker 12: because it really is a fun gun to shoot.
[28:39] Speaker 3: It really is, isn't it, especially if you shoot thirty
[28:42] Speaker 3: eight specials in it. They're just like easy to shoot
[28:45] Speaker 3: it just it makes you smile. They're just fun, yep.
[28:49] Speaker 12: And I took that to a PCC match one time,
[28:52] Speaker 12: and while my times weren't great, and I think I
[28:56] Speaker 12: irritated a lot of people, but I had a lot of.
[29:02] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just not what we're using. Doesn't matter. Why
[29:05] Speaker 3: do you use that? Because it makes me happy. It's
[29:07] Speaker 3: as simple as that, Howard, Thank you so much. I
[29:10] Speaker 3: appreciate the call, sir. I do want to grab David
[29:13] Speaker 3: in Colorado online to Hey, David, thank you for your patience.
[29:16] Speaker 3: You have the floor, sir.
[29:19] Speaker 13: The you had mentioned a while back about five five
[29:24] Speaker 13: six compared to two two three, and I think at
[29:28] Speaker 13: that time you said you thought they should be separate,
[29:31] Speaker 13: but somebody was claiming they were okay to interchange, and
[29:34] Speaker 13: I want to know what your research found.
[29:37] Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, good question. I went and asked the right people,
[29:41] Speaker 3: and what I found. I basically I went and talked
[29:44] Speaker 3: to Jeff Hoffman at Blackhill's Ammunition. He said, look, he says, yeah,
[29:48] Speaker 3: I know you probably can change interchange them and get
[29:53] Speaker 3: away with it, but that's not smart. He said, you can. Obviously,
[29:57] Speaker 3: you can always shoot a two two three cartridge and
[30:00] Speaker 3: a rifle the chamber for the five five six. You
[30:03] Speaker 3: cannot do it the other way. You might get away
[30:07] Speaker 3: with it, but you shouldn't try it. Shooting a five
[30:10] Speaker 3: five six cartridge in a rifle chamber for two two
[30:14] Speaker 3: three you can end up with pressure issues. And so
[30:17] Speaker 3: there is a reason. It's about tolerant stacking and such,
[30:22] Speaker 3: but there is a reason to not indiscriminately interchage them.
[30:27] Speaker 3: So you can shoot the two two three in a
[30:29] Speaker 3: five five six, but you should not shoot five five
[30:33] Speaker 3: six and a two two three. And so if Jeff
[30:36] Speaker 3: says it, and this guy knows AMMO and knows ballistics
[30:40] Speaker 3: and he has his own ballistics lab, I believe it.
[30:43] Speaker 3: And he does a lot of work with the military
[30:45] Speaker 3: and with their firearms and their AMMO. So anyway, that's
[30:48] Speaker 3: the bottom line on that, David. I appreciate you bringing
[30:50] Speaker 3: that up so that I could get that out there.
[30:53] Speaker 3: I should have mentioned it sooner and just did not.
[30:56] Speaker 3: But there you go. And yeah, I have boltox and
[30:59] Speaker 3: right FALSEH chamber for two two three, and of course
[31:04] Speaker 3: a lot of the bulk AMMO less expensive AMMO is
[31:09] Speaker 3: actually five five six, and so I have to be
[31:13] Speaker 3: careful to make sure that when I am selecting AMO
[31:16] Speaker 3: to shoot in my bolt action two to three that
[31:18] Speaker 3: I don't grab five five six in my head. For
[31:23] Speaker 3: a long time, I've kind of just thought they were
[31:26] Speaker 3: about the same, and honestly I admit to being a
[31:32] Speaker 3: bit lackadaisical about it. Oh yeah, big deal, can't be
[31:36] Speaker 3: that that much difference. Well, yeah, there can be. It's
[31:40] Speaker 3: it's enough. And when people I know say, yeah, Tom,
[31:46] Speaker 3: you probably shouldn't do that, and here's why they've run
[31:49] Speaker 3: through the deal, go all right, I'm gonna change the
[31:54] Speaker 3: way I operate. So there you are. I mean, that's
[31:55] Speaker 3: the information. You do with it what you will, but
[31:58] Speaker 3: that's basically how it comes them. So we had a
[32:04] Speaker 3: caller earlier talking about his first nineteen eleven. He actually
[32:08] Speaker 3: got a twenty eleven, which I think it's happening a lot.
[32:12] Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are their first nineteen
[32:16] Speaker 3: eleven is actually a double stack nineteen eleven. We call
[32:20] Speaker 3: him twenty elevens even though that's a I think it's
[32:22] Speaker 3: a trademark term that Staccato owns, but it's become generic,
[32:27] Speaker 3: like kleen X, a double stack nineteen eleven, and people
[32:30] Speaker 3: are going, Okay, I'll get one of those, because I
[32:32] Speaker 3: don't want one of those nineteen elevens. That's single stack,
[32:35] Speaker 3: and that's old guy's gone. And then they shoot it
[32:38] Speaker 3: and go, oh, the old guys were right. These things
[32:42] Speaker 3: really are nice. Wow, they shoot really well. They have
[32:44] Speaker 3: a great trigger. I will say, however, that the CZ
[32:53] Speaker 3: dan Wesson DWX pistol. I love the way that Ryan
[32:58] Speaker 3: put it, because, of course, this is kind of the
[33:00] Speaker 3: c Z seventy five in nineteen eleven said, you know,
[33:07] Speaker 3: if a CZ seventy five and nineteen eleven got together
[33:09] Speaker 3: and had a wild night in Vegas, this would be
[33:12] Speaker 3: their love child. Yeah. It just feels good and shoots sweet,
[33:20] Speaker 3: and they have it in like a target version, and
[33:23] Speaker 3: they also have it a carry version and yeah, it's
[33:27] Speaker 3: optics ready, double stack nine and they just shoot really well.
[33:32] Speaker 3: Not inexpensive. Okay, you're gonna be paying there twenty four
[33:36] Speaker 3: hundred up to I mean retail at least up to
[33:39] Speaker 3: three grand. I don't know what they go for street price.
[33:44] Speaker 3: We're in a really interesting time in that you can
[33:47] Speaker 3: get a very nice pistol for five hundred bucks. Ruger
[33:53] Speaker 3: RXm comes to mind. Nice pistol, good carry gun. I've
[33:57] Speaker 3: carried it a lot. Decent. It's not nineteen eleven trigger,
[34:02] Speaker 3: but very few are. I mean, there's a reason we
[34:04] Speaker 3: like the nineteen elevens, and yet we have a lot
[34:08] Speaker 3: of guns now. Pistols I'm thinking about right now. They're
[34:12] Speaker 3: in the twenty five hundred to forty five hundred dollar
[34:15] Speaker 3: range and very popular. I think Staccado made a difference.
[34:21] Speaker 3: I mean, people have been paying that for Wilson combat
[34:24] Speaker 3: guns and Nighthout custom guns, but a new generation of
[34:29] Speaker 3: shooters has discovered these pistols through Staccato, They've become they
[34:36] Speaker 3: really became the end gun, the gun the cool kids
[34:42] Speaker 3: were using. And that's okay. I mean, you can like
[34:46] Speaker 3: it or not like it, but it got a lot
[34:47] Speaker 3: of people into a little bit higher end guns, discovering
[34:54] Speaker 3: nineteen elevens twenty eleven's which whatever, and all of a
[34:59] Speaker 3: sudden people turning around and saying, huh, there actually are
[35:03] Speaker 3: a lot of guns in that twenty five hundred to
[35:06] Speaker 3: three thousand dollars rains a lot of money. Yeah, I
[35:08] Speaker 3: mean there are still there are a lot of guns
[35:10] Speaker 3: up at nine thousand dollars too. What would motivate you?
[35:16] Speaker 3: I guess this is my question for you. What would
[35:17] Speaker 3: motivate you to move from a five or six hundred
[35:21] Speaker 3: dollars pistol to a twenty five hundred dollars pistol? Or
[35:27] Speaker 3: maybe there's nothing that would motivate you to move up
[35:30] Speaker 3: and spend that kind of money on a pistol.
[35:34] Speaker 11: I don't know.
[35:35] Speaker 3: There's no right or wrong answer. That's part of this whole.
[35:40] Speaker 3: I'm not trying to justify what I buy anymore. I
[35:44] Speaker 3: just get it because I like it and or hopefully
[35:48] Speaker 3: I can afford it, or if I can't really afford it.
[35:55] Speaker 3: With the air quotes around, it's like I don't want
[35:57] Speaker 3: to spend that much on it. I will do the
[36:00] Speaker 3: thing that people say, don't ever do, don't ever sell
[36:03] Speaker 3: a gun. No, I sell guns. If I have guns
[36:10] Speaker 3: in the safe that haven't been shot in twenty years,
[36:16] Speaker 3: they really need to go somewhere else, especially if I
[36:19] Speaker 3: look at them and go, you know, I really like
[36:21] Speaker 3: that gun, and I'm probably never gonna shoot it again.
[36:26] Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I got something to replace it, something
[36:29] Speaker 3: that does it better. I mean, I like the gun,
[36:31] Speaker 3: I had a history with it, I have some memories
[36:33] Speaker 3: with it, et cetera, et cetera. But I'm not gonna
[36:38] Speaker 3: shoot it again. I'm not gonna take it hunting again.
[36:40] Speaker 3: It's just not Why don't I sell that gun and
[36:47] Speaker 3: take the money that's sitting in the back of a
[36:49] Speaker 3: safe doing nothing for me. Gun's not becoming more valuable,
[36:54] Speaker 3: they're not collector items. Take that money, sell one or
[36:58] Speaker 3: two or three or four guns, and then maybe say, okay,
[37:03] Speaker 3: if I sell four of these guns, I can buy
[37:06] Speaker 3: one of those twenty five hundred or three thousand dollars guns.
[37:11] Speaker 3: And so, frankly, that's what I've been doing. I will
[37:16] Speaker 3: sell two or three guns, or i'd recentally sell one
[37:19] Speaker 3: of my ultra light arms rifles, which I love. But
[37:24] Speaker 3: this one was the two eighty four Winchester, which is
[37:29] Speaker 3: a great cartridge. Loved that, but ultimately it had one
[37:34] Speaker 3: drawback that I decided I just didn't need to put
[37:37] Speaker 3: up with anymore nothing all with the rifle. They make
[37:42] Speaker 3: great rifles, but the two eighty four in that action,
[37:46] Speaker 3: you can only get two rounds into the magazine. And
[37:49] Speaker 3: I get it. This is my personal deal, just for
[37:52] Speaker 3: where I hunt and what I do. But we go
[37:54] Speaker 3: up and down really steep mountains on foot and places
[37:58] Speaker 3: where you could slide, where you could stumble, you could
[38:00] Speaker 3: fall down, and so I always keep the chamber unloaded.
[38:07] Speaker 3: I hunt with an empty chamber in my rifle, and
[38:11] Speaker 3: then I can work the bolt. If I have time,
[38:14] Speaker 3: I can take a cartridge out of my pocket. I
[38:16] Speaker 3: got my Barny bullet in there if you will, and
[38:18] Speaker 3: put it in the chamber, and so I've got the
[38:22] Speaker 3: full magazine. But if I just work the bolt with
[38:26] Speaker 3: the two eighty four, it's a two shot gun because
[38:30] Speaker 3: it only holds two in the magazine, because it's got
[38:32] Speaker 3: a fat cartridge. I also had a seven mm eight,
[38:36] Speaker 3: which has really similar ballistics to the two eighty four,
[38:41] Speaker 3: but because as a smaller diameter diameter cartridge, I can
[38:45] Speaker 3: get three rounds in the magazine. So basically it's a
[38:49] Speaker 3: two shot versus a three shot. Is that going to
[38:53] Speaker 3: make a difference? Don't know, but it could. And the
[38:57] Speaker 3: way I looked at us with you know what, let's
[39:00] Speaker 3: let somebody else own this too, eighty four, I'll take
[39:03] Speaker 3: the seven eight, I'll take the three rounds instead of
[39:06] Speaker 3: the two rounds. So that's how I arrived at that.
[39:10] Speaker 3: So I ended up with, oh, yeah, I have gun
[39:12] Speaker 3: money now, sold a gun. Now I got to go
[39:17] Speaker 3: shopping for a gun. Life is good. I was thinking
[39:31] Speaker 3: about my conversation with Eric Pratt. We're talking about the
[39:35] Speaker 3: upcoming midterm elections. I think about activism and his idea
[39:41] Speaker 3: of getting three of your friends to register to vote.
[39:47] Speaker 3: Great idea. I like that. And I think about the
[39:50] Speaker 3: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our country and think
[39:56] Speaker 3: about the people who signed the Declaration of Independence, which,
[40:01] Speaker 3: by the way, short document, very much worthwhile going back
[40:04] Speaker 3: and reading that, But it was signing their own death certificates.
[40:12] Speaker 3: You understand that, right, It was an act of treason
[40:16] Speaker 3: to sign this document. By signing the document, they were saying,
[40:23] Speaker 3: if the British catch me, they will kill me. If
[40:29] Speaker 3: the British take me captive. They will hang me because
[40:35] Speaker 3: I signed this document. And yet they did it. They
[40:41] Speaker 3: put everything at risk, their lives, their fortunes, their lives, everything,
[40:50] Speaker 3: their sacred honor. And so I think about today. I
[40:55] Speaker 3: think you know people who say, yeah, I'm a patriot. Okay, great,
[40:59] Speaker 3: I'm sure you are. But what would you do if
[41:03] Speaker 3: I said we would you charge that hill? Would you
[41:06] Speaker 3: fight against Yeah? Yeah, I'll do all that. Okay, great, yeah,
[41:09] Speaker 3: but would you register somebody to vote? Huh? Because that's
[41:13] Speaker 3: what we need right now. We don't need you to
[41:14] Speaker 3: charge a hill, We don't need you to grab a
[41:17] Speaker 3: gun go after somebody, but we do need to get
[41:19] Speaker 3: somebody to register to vote. We do need to win
[41:23] Speaker 3: the midterms. And I know people get tired of hearing
[41:27] Speaker 3: everybody say, well, this one's different, this is the for
[41:29] Speaker 3: all the marbles. No, this one actually is different for
[41:33] Speaker 3: a really important reason. And I hate talking about Democrats
[41:40] Speaker 3: versus Republicans because I wish we didn't have that, but
[41:45] Speaker 3: the divide is so wide now that you almost have
[41:50] Speaker 3: to and the Democrat leaders and I understand that there
[41:58] Speaker 3: are Democrats who are pro gun individual voters, but really
[42:01] Speaker 3: didn't matter anymore because the leaders of the party are
[42:06] Speaker 3: so anti gun that if the Democrats are in charge,
[42:09] Speaker 3: they will take actions against gun owners and against the
[42:14] Speaker 3: Second Amendment. What has happened is with Donald Trump being
[42:18] Speaker 3: in office, they've panicked. They're desperate, and this desperation has
[42:26] Speaker 3: caused them to be willing to do things that normally
[42:29] Speaker 3: wouldn't do. To say, we're if we win the midterms,
[42:35] Speaker 3: we're going to impeach Trump, and they will. We're going
[42:40] Speaker 3: to get rid of the filibuster so we can increase
[42:45] Speaker 3: the number of Supreme Court justices, so we can put
[42:51] Speaker 3: in the right justices, so we can get left leaning decisions,
[42:58] Speaker 3: so we can take over. No one can ever take
[43:01] Speaker 3: power back from us. Because they thought they were going
[43:03] Speaker 3: to have it forever. They did. Donald Trump surprised them.
[43:08] Speaker 3: They really thought they were going to have power forever.
[43:14] Speaker 3: And now they're desperate and they're realizing we have to
[43:17] Speaker 3: take action so that this can never happen to us again.
[43:20] Speaker 3: There can never be another Donald Trump. That's what the
[43:24] Speaker 3: midterms are about. So the question I'm asking is, would
[43:28] Speaker 3: you get together a bunch of your buddies and say, hey,
[43:30] Speaker 3: we're all going to go to lunch. We're going to
[43:32] Speaker 3: go to breakfast, We're going to go vote together. Make
[43:34] Speaker 3: sure everybody registered to vote. To be amazed how many
[43:37] Speaker 3: of your friends are not. Get your gun club involved.
[43:40] Speaker 3: If you have more ideas on this, give me a called.
[43:42] Speaker 3: You're in the after show. We'll talk about that. It's
[43:45] Speaker 3: I'm asking for a commitment at this point. It's basically,
[43:48] Speaker 3: it's that time, the two hundred and fiftieth of our country,
[43:52] Speaker 3: it's time for you to sign up and stand up.
[43:55] Speaker 3: Let's do it together.

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