# AI Promotion Of Gun Rights; Barn Find Guns; Lindsey Graham

An episode of [Gun Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/190516844), 12 Jul 2026, 44 min.

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In This Hour: -- Using AI to create promotions for state gun rights groups. Anthony Segura of the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association tells how he does it. -- He found a very old gun in a smokehouse, and how he wants to restore it. -- Most don't connect the two, but Senator Lindsey Graham may be responsible for the Supreme Court taking key gun rights case since Graham got Justice Kavanaugh on the court. Gun Talk 07.12.26 Hour 2 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.

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[1:00] Speaker 5: Hand will answer challenge. United Wave Lowest since ninety thirty five,
[1:09] Speaker 5: we've been the.
[1:10] Speaker 3: Voice sport every long about.
[1:12] Speaker 5: In Man, New Mexico Shooting Sports Sociation, protecting your sacast
[1:23] Speaker 5: is Lam.
[1:26] Speaker 7: All right, do you like that one? I sure do.
[1:29] Speaker 7: I'm Tom Gresham. This is gun talk. We're back with
[1:31] Speaker 7: you now. I want to bring in right now, the
[1:33] Speaker 7: guy who's responsible for that incredible song, that wonderful music.
[1:37] Speaker 7: Here Anthony Segura from the New Mexico Shooting Sports Shooting
[1:42] Speaker 7: Sports Association.
[1:43] Speaker 8: Anthony, that's it, the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association, Right, Okay,
[1:48] Speaker 8: you're Y for short.
[1:49] Speaker 2: It's MSSA.
[1:51] Speaker 7: Okay, either way, it's a MOUNTA. There you go, and
[1:55] Speaker 7: you're the executive director. Absolutely, yeah, okay, So all right,
[1:59] Speaker 7: so tell me about I mean, I just played a
[2:01] Speaker 7: segment of the song and I like it a lot.
[2:05] Speaker 7: I just think it is a great promotion for your
[2:08] Speaker 7: state organization as well as for the Second Amendment. Tell
[2:11] Speaker 7: me the story. How'd that come about?
[2:13] Speaker 8: I just had this song in my head and I
[2:15] Speaker 8: play a lot with AI if. I came across an
[2:19] Speaker 8: app that actually creates songs for you.
[2:22] Speaker 7: Wow.
[2:24] Speaker 8: So I took I typed up the lyrics and I
[2:26] Speaker 8: put them into the song and it created a song
[2:29] Speaker 8: for me. And it asked me what type of genre
[2:32] Speaker 8: I wanted and so on and so forth, and I'm
[2:34] Speaker 8: big into the country. I like country music, so I
[2:37] Speaker 8: picked it actually gave me five songs to pick from.
[2:41] Speaker 7: So you wrote the lyrics on this? I wrote the lyrics. Yeah, Well,
[2:44] Speaker 7: I know where that goes. Sometimes you get a thing
[2:46] Speaker 7: going in your head. You just got to get it
[2:49] Speaker 7: out there and make it happen. Otherwise it just spins
[2:52] Speaker 7: in your head and drives you crazy, exactly.
[2:54] Speaker 8: Yeah, And I've been using this tep of technology for
[2:56] Speaker 8: quite a while because I'm new Mexico can carry instructor
[3:01] Speaker 8: and you know, I'm really busy. So I have and
[3:05] Speaker 8: have been approved to do a online website for contill carry.
[3:11] Speaker 8: Oh and so I don't want to just put black
[3:15] Speaker 8: and white on a screen, so I have an avatar
[3:18] Speaker 8: that actually says the things that I want to say
[3:22] Speaker 8: through the program to make it more interesting. So I've
[3:25] Speaker 8: been using that probably for maybe four or five years
[3:29] Speaker 8: since the first technology first came out. I brought that
[3:33] Speaker 8: to this song. That type of technology, it's really expanded
[3:38] Speaker 8: since I started four or five years ago with it.
[3:40] Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen the actual video.
[3:42] Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just going to say, people need to
[3:44] Speaker 7: go take a look at the video because you've got
[3:46] Speaker 7: all sorts of images with it. I mean, it is
[3:48] Speaker 7: a stirring and exciting presentation. I mean I applaud you
[3:53] Speaker 7: for it.
[3:54] Speaker 8: All the pictures are created by chat GPT amazing.
[3:57] Speaker 7: You just tell them what you want.
[3:59] Speaker 8: Tell what I wanted and then I'd said, well, you know,
[4:02] Speaker 8: add this to take this off or at our official
[4:05] Speaker 8: logo to the picture, so on and so forth, and it
[4:08] Speaker 8: did it. And I've been using it long enough that
[4:10] Speaker 8: it pretty well learns what I like and it adds
[4:14] Speaker 8: the things that I want on there. So it's amazing.
[4:17] Speaker 8: AIS is so creative.
[4:20] Speaker 7: So what's been the reaction? I mean, I know this
[4:22] Speaker 7: things just came out. What's been the reaction to the
[4:24] Speaker 7: video so far?
[4:26] Speaker 8: Most people really really like it. I've had a few
[4:28] Speaker 8: problems with some of my other board members, especially on
[4:33] Speaker 8: the military side. They thought people are going to think
[4:36] Speaker 8: that we're affiliated with a military type organization. So I
[4:41] Speaker 8: modified it because there's a part in there that I
[4:44] Speaker 8: talk about, you know, where people step up to do things,
[4:48] Speaker 8: and I changed that from a military organization to fire
[4:52] Speaker 8: and police.
[4:53] Speaker 7: All right, so tell folks about the organization itself. And
[4:57] Speaker 7: there are a lot of people in this country that think, well,
[5:00] Speaker 7: in Mexico has got to be us a good western state.
[5:02] Speaker 7: Shouldn't be a problem, you know, there shouldn't be any
[5:04] Speaker 7: issues with gun rights. You actually got a whole messive
[5:07] Speaker 7: issues you got to deal with all the time.
[5:09] Speaker 8: Oh, we're one of the worst as a matter of fact.
[5:12] Speaker 8: And that's it. We were started in nineteen thirty five,
[5:14] Speaker 8: you know, fighting for gun rights. And of course I
[5:16] Speaker 8: have nineteen thirty five plaster all over the song in
[5:19] Speaker 8: the video.
[5:20] Speaker 2: But you know, our.
[5:21] Speaker 8: Governor here, we have one of the worst governors. Thank god,
[5:25] Speaker 8: she's going to be gone, but she actually had the
[5:31] Speaker 8: Senate put out what's called Senate Bill seventeen, which would
[5:35] Speaker 8: have been the worst gun bill in the nation. Through
[5:38] Speaker 8: our efforts, through efforts of the gun stores, the NRA,
[5:44] Speaker 8: National Shooting Sports Foundation, you know, everybody, we all worked
[5:47] Speaker 8: together and we fought it along with the Democrats because
[5:50] Speaker 8: there's a lot of conservative Democrats, so we all got
[5:55] Speaker 8: together at the last minute when we were able to
[5:58] Speaker 8: block it. Yeah, that's that's been our challenge for the
[6:02] Speaker 8: last eight years with this governor. She wants to take
[6:05] Speaker 8: away every type of gun rights that she can have,
[6:07] Speaker 8: and that's what we're here to stop.
[6:10] Speaker 7: Well, I got to say, that's what state organizations do.
[6:13] Speaker 7: Because a lot people think about the Fed, FEDS and
[6:17] Speaker 7: the Supreme Court and Congress, but a lot of the effort,
[6:21] Speaker 7: a lot of the gun banning has taking place at
[6:23] Speaker 7: the state level and you got to fight it at
[6:25] Speaker 7: the state level. You don't want to try to have
[6:27] Speaker 7: to go in and undo it once it's done. If
[6:30] Speaker 7: it all possible, you want to stop it before it
[6:32] Speaker 7: gets passed.
[6:33] Speaker 8: We have elections, of course this year, and hopefully in
[6:36] Speaker 8: November that the person that I'm supporting actually gets elected
[6:41] Speaker 8: because he is.
[6:42] Speaker 2: A member of our association.
[6:44] Speaker 7: So that his name is Greg Hall.
[6:47] Speaker 8: He is the former mayor of a little community near
[6:51] Speaker 8: Albuquerque called Rio Rancho, and he's done an excellent job
[6:56] Speaker 8: for real Rancho.
[6:58] Speaker 7: Around and Rio Rancho may have been a small community
[7:01] Speaker 7: at some point, but it's a pretty big town now right.
[7:04] Speaker 8: It's growing pretty large, and it's clean. You don't see
[7:07] Speaker 8: the homeless, you don't see the graffiti, you don't see
[7:10] Speaker 8: all that, where Albuquerque is totally the opposite with the
[7:14] Speaker 8: mare that we have. So again, like I said, Greg
[7:18] Speaker 8: Hall is a supporter of an MSSA. He's a member,
[7:22] Speaker 8: longtime member of the association. We can't endorse by our policy,
[7:28] Speaker 8: we can't endorse any in the radical person, but for
[7:33] Speaker 8: me personally, yeah.
[7:34] Speaker 7: Yeah, but it would be good if we could get
[7:36] Speaker 7: haul in there.
[7:37] Speaker 8: Right exactly exactly. We need that type of person in there.
[7:42] Speaker 7: I think, let me ask you a question here. You're
[7:44] Speaker 7: good at AI and this is an amazing presentation you've done.
[7:47] Speaker 7: If there are people in other state gun rights organizations
[7:51] Speaker 7: you are thinking more, I'd love to do that. I
[7:52] Speaker 7: just don't know where to start. Could they reach out
[7:55] Speaker 7: to you for some tips?
[7:57] Speaker 9: Oh?
[7:58] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[7:58] Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, I've been a call back
[8:01] Speaker 8: from a couple of Zation state organizations from the NRA,
[8:05] Speaker 8: and I told them, you know, that's it's kind of funny, Uh,
[8:09] Speaker 8: I've been I'm a webmaster by trade. I'm retired, but
[8:12] Speaker 8: i still do websites and I've been helping the some
[8:17] Speaker 8: of the state organizations with the NRA get their websites
[8:20] Speaker 8: up and going. And I actually won for twenty twenty five.
[8:24] Speaker 8: I was just presented the award for public Service for
[8:28] Speaker 8: all the websites that I've been helping.
[8:30] Speaker 7: Also, congratulations, thank you. Yeah.
[8:33] Speaker 8: I was presented that by the president of the NRA
[8:37] Speaker 8: and that was that was a great honor. You know,
[8:40] Speaker 8: it's kind of a surprise. I never did this for,
[8:44] Speaker 8: you know, any type of promotion for myself. It was
[8:47] Speaker 8: just more to help the people. So I guess that's
[8:49] Speaker 8: made it a little bit better.
[8:51] Speaker 2: But I don't have a problem.
[8:52] Speaker 8: But you know the thing is, if it helps gun
[8:55] Speaker 8: rights in New Mexico or throughout the United States, I
[9:00] Speaker 8: don't have a problem helping anybody. We actually got a
[9:02] Speaker 8: couple of memberships already signed up off of it, I believe.
[9:05] Speaker 7: So that's that's the goal, and that's the goal. Yeah.
[9:09] Speaker 8: Yeah, we need the people, We need the support of
[9:11] Speaker 8: the community throughout New Mexico of course throughout the United States.
[9:16] Speaker 7: That is terrific. Anthony, Thank you so much. Anthony Segura,
[9:19] Speaker 7: Executive director of the New Mexico Shooting Sports Association. I
[9:24] Speaker 7: encourage people to go to YouTube take a look at
[9:26] Speaker 7: this video. It is really great. I just think you
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[14:26] Speaker 7: the various guns that are out there, and honestly, we
[14:29] Speaker 7: have more guns available, more types of guns, better quality
[14:34] Speaker 7: guns we've ever had before. The latest figures for gun
[14:39] Speaker 7: sales are up again. They call them the Knick's background checks.
[14:44] Speaker 7: The background checks on NFA items, which is mostly suppressors,
[14:49] Speaker 7: is up one hundred and seventy seven percent. Incredible that.
[14:54] Speaker 7: It's amazing what happens when you take that two hundred
[14:56] Speaker 7: dollars tax off of them. People want them and buy them.
[14:58] Speaker 7: I just got a new one from Silencer Central. Haven't
[15:02] Speaker 7: had a chance to use it yet, but wow, it's easy.
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[15:13] Speaker 7: suppressors being made, so many suppressor companies. It looks like
[15:18] Speaker 7: the prices are pretty competitive. People are beating each other
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[15:23] Speaker 7: beneficiaries of that. We're getting a really good deal on
[15:26] Speaker 7: some of those. By the way, have you bought a
[15:29] Speaker 7: suppressor or you think about buying a suppressor, I'd like
[15:32] Speaker 7: to know which ones you're getting, because honestly, there are
[15:34] Speaker 7: so many out there now. I find it hard to
[15:39] Speaker 7: keep up. People will tell me about a new suppressor
[15:42] Speaker 7: or silencer and I never even heard of the company before,
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[15:51] Speaker 7: that we were talking about guns of different prices, and
[15:56] Speaker 7: you know, I am a real fan of the Ruger RXm.
[16:00] Speaker 7: It's about a four hundred and fifty dollars pistol. I
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[16:06] Speaker 7: It is a Palmer gun block ish in style. It
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[16:17] Speaker 7: years now been a huge fan of the Smith M
[16:20] Speaker 7: and P Smith WESTN M and P line, and of
[16:22] Speaker 7: course it started out with just the M and P
[16:24] Speaker 7: and now it's a whole line and lots of different ones.
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[16:29] Speaker 7: Bodyguard two point zero with a I think it's a
[16:33] Speaker 7: Farridian red dot. That's a really small three eighty pistol,
[16:38] Speaker 7: a great concealed carry pistol. Good carry pistol and yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
[16:42] Speaker 7: it's a three eighty, but get over it. Three eighty
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[16:48] Speaker 7: of that. I think that's a really good package. There
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[16:53] Speaker 7: I said, I've carried the RXm, I carried the M
[16:55] Speaker 7: and P, I've carried the sick P three sixty five
[16:59] Speaker 7: a character of a first occasionally, not as much, honestly,
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[17:09] Speaker 7: by the way, we got a bear. I got a
[17:13] Speaker 7: video from our cameras around the cabin here, and this
[17:16] Speaker 7: thing is right underneath the deck of our house a
[17:18] Speaker 7: couple of nights ago. And I think what happens with
[17:21] Speaker 7: a lot of folks around here put out their trash
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[17:32] Speaker 7: a lot of smelly garbage, and this bear decided to
[17:34] Speaker 7: hit them all and it was knocking over trash cans
[17:36] Speaker 7: like crazy. And so now my neighbors are going, yeah,
[17:39] Speaker 7: what about bear spray and some I'm carrying guns. Okay,
[17:44] Speaker 7: nothing wrong with that, as long as you know what
[17:45] Speaker 7: you're doing. Anyway, just as I think about which guns
[17:51] Speaker 7: I like, you really can't go with what I like
[17:55] Speaker 7: because I'm all over the place. I like four and
[17:57] Speaker 7: five hundred dollars pistols, and we'll carry those for self defense.
[17:59] Speaker 7: I also like twenty five hundred dark crystals. There you go,
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[18:06] Speaker 7: you're on the line, sir, what's on your mind?
[18:09] Speaker 11: So I've got kind of a strange range report for you.
[18:13] Speaker 7: Alright.
[18:14] Speaker 11: Last weekend, visiting family down in Missouri, we uh poking
[18:18] Speaker 11: around my wife's grandfather's farmstead, and we were in the
[18:24] Speaker 11: smoke cap because there's always some cool tools in there,
[18:26] Speaker 11: you know, and you're kind of poking around, and yeah,
[18:29] Speaker 11: just walking out the door, I look over and I go, nah,
[18:33] Speaker 11: I can't be it looks like a rifle leaning up
[18:35] Speaker 11: against a corner behind a bunch of two by fours
[18:38] Speaker 11: and stuff. And wouldn't you know it, it was rusted, pitted,
[18:44] Speaker 11: nasty soot all over it, bird poop, you name it, right.
[18:49] Speaker 11: I moved the lever the hammer came back. I squeezed
[18:52] Speaker 11: the hammer dropped. I thought, hey, maybe this old thing
[18:57] Speaker 11: has got something, maybe maybe, you know. So we started
[19:02] Speaker 11: asking her dad and this was her dad's dad. He's
[19:05] Speaker 11: ninety four and he I mean, the house was bulldozed
[19:09] Speaker 11: thirty five years ago and the barn is still there,
[19:12] Speaker 11: but this smokehouse was kind of inverted into a tool shed.
[19:17] Speaker 11: We're thinking this gun may have been leaning up against
[19:19] Speaker 11: the corner inside this smokehouse for sixty years, possibly after house,
[19:25] Speaker 11: because her her grandpa died forty some years ago. And
[19:29] Speaker 11: we're trying to figure out. Okay, it's a Marlin ninety
[19:32] Speaker 11: two and twenty two and it's got SL and l
[19:36] Speaker 11: R right on top of the you know, so it
[19:38] Speaker 11: was for all three you know, twenty two rimfires, right,
[19:43] Speaker 11: and we're looking at the number, and some of the
[19:46] Speaker 11: Marlin records have been lost, but it appears maybe nineteen
[19:50] Speaker 11: fifteen we found a model ninety two in twenty two
[19:54] Speaker 11: rim fire twenty four inch octagon. Beryl. I want to
[19:59] Speaker 11: try to re finish it and bring this thing back
[20:01] Speaker 11: to life.
[20:02] Speaker 7: I mean, well that's why I was going to ask you,
[20:04] Speaker 7: And okay, I love refinishing it. And restoring it. The
[20:08] Speaker 7: question is is that something you want to do or
[20:10] Speaker 7: do you want to send that to somebody?
[20:13] Speaker 6: Oh?
[20:13] Speaker 11: No, no, I'm going to send it. I don't Okay,
[20:16] Speaker 11: I could, I could maybe you know, straight some of
[20:20] Speaker 11: the gunk off and but I did with my thumbnail.
[20:22] Speaker 11: And if there's decent wood under there, it's a good,
[20:24] Speaker 11: nice brownish walnut and all is now brown.
[20:30] Speaker 7: I got a question for you, then, sure, sure, And
[20:33] Speaker 7: I don't know where you want to go with your
[20:36] Speaker 7: refinish your restoration. But when you said first, they came
[20:40] Speaker 7: to mind, because actually I got an interview coming up
[20:43] Speaker 7: with Doug Turnbull this week later on the show Turnbull Restoration.
[20:49] Speaker 7: They do phenomenal work. Yeah, if you said I really
[20:55] Speaker 7: want this thing to look like new, they can make
[20:59] Speaker 7: it look like new.
[21:01] Speaker 11: Hmmm. I hadn't thought of them. There's a place in
[21:06] Speaker 11: Central Nebraska that has done some work for me risk restoring.
[21:11] Speaker 11: Not in this bad of shape, but like silver, you know,
[21:16] Speaker 11: no no bloing at all. But this is this is
[21:19] Speaker 11: rather pitted. The board looks okay, you know, but you know, yeah.
[21:27] Speaker 7: And then that's the question just depends on how much
[21:29] Speaker 7: it's pitted. Anyway. I just want to throw that name out.
[21:31] Speaker 7: The turnabowl restoration is a possibility, and you may have
[21:34] Speaker 7: a place already. Cool story though, I mean, what a
[21:37] Speaker 7: family heirloom. Definitely. I love the idea that you've got
[21:40] Speaker 7: to get it fixed up, whether you make it a
[21:43] Speaker 7: wallhanger or you decide to make it a shooter. Either way,
[21:46] Speaker 7: but good on you. And look, I appreciate great call,
[21:48] Speaker 7: great range report, amazing stuff. Fine. I mean we talk
[21:53] Speaker 7: about barn finds for cars. That's a smokehouse fire for
[21:59] Speaker 7: a gun. Yeah, it's not the best way to store
[22:03] Speaker 7: a gun, but you might be ever bring it back,
[22:06] Speaker 7: get a good gun smith to take it over. But
[22:08] Speaker 7: I love the idea of maybe doing a full house restorational.
[22:11] Speaker 7: There you go. All right, our number is eight sixty six.
[22:14] Speaker 7: Talk gun or top talk gun. That'll get you here.
[22:16] Speaker 7: Do you have any of those stories? You ever found
[22:19] Speaker 7: a gun somewhere? What a great story. All right, We've
[22:30] Speaker 7: got a lot to talk about, so let's get right
[22:31] Speaker 7: to it. Line two. Let's see. Oh no, correction, here
[22:35] Speaker 7: are we I'm catching out here? Sorry guys? Yeah? Line two,
[22:39] Speaker 7: David's with us out helling them on town. Hey David,
[22:42] Speaker 7: you're talking about a revolver for bears.
[22:47] Speaker 12: Yeah, right, carry one an archery season, a Model six
[22:50] Speaker 12: twenty nine Skipson lessons the stainless steel and I am
[22:56] Speaker 12: looking for a reload, perhaps a three hundred and five
[23:00] Speaker 12: got check bullets, and I want to know where I
[23:02] Speaker 12: can get them.
[23:04] Speaker 7: Let me back up, why do you want that?
[23:09] Speaker 9: Oh?
[23:09] Speaker 12: Occasionally Risally bears come into our hunting party.
[23:13] Speaker 7: I understand. But there's a lot of good AMMO. Would
[23:18] Speaker 7: you consider factory AMO or do you you just really
[23:22] Speaker 7: want to load your owne?
[23:24] Speaker 12: I really want to load now, all.
[23:27] Speaker 7: Right, I don't know where you're going to get that bullet.
[23:31] Speaker 7: Have you done some looking around?
[23:35] Speaker 12: Yeah? I have a couple of gun shops here. And
[23:40] Speaker 12: is there a better round than that three hundred and
[23:43] Speaker 12: five RAN bullet?
[23:45] Speaker 7: Probably? But you know it's there are a lot of
[23:50] Speaker 7: good hard casts let bullets out there. You just gotta
[23:51] Speaker 7: do a little search for that. You can find something
[23:53] Speaker 7: you can load. Buffalo Boar makes some really good loads,
[23:58] Speaker 7: factory loads, but again this fact your loads. Black KILLSAMO
[24:02] Speaker 7: has the Honey Badger loads, which I like a lot,
[24:04] Speaker 7: a little bit less recoil, but really good penetration. But yeah,
[24:08] Speaker 7: if you couldn't get a three hundred or three hundred
[24:10] Speaker 7: and five green hard casts lead bullet and it shoots
[24:13] Speaker 7: well out of your gun. That would work just fine,
[24:16] Speaker 7: But you're just gonna have to do some poking around
[24:18] Speaker 7: to figure out who now. The other option, of course,
[24:22] Speaker 7: if you want to go deep into it, is to
[24:24] Speaker 7: get the moles and cast your own bullets.
[24:27] Speaker 12: Oh no, I don't want to get involved in that.
[24:30] Speaker 12: I want to pure.
[24:34] Speaker 7: Yeah, that's going down the rabbit hole of Once you
[24:35] Speaker 7: get into that, you're going, Oh, it never stops. I'll
[24:38] Speaker 7: get this mole, I'll get that mole. Now we're casting
[24:40] Speaker 7: bullets and end up like the rest of us, and
[24:42] Speaker 7: got more bullets we know what to do with. You
[24:44] Speaker 7: can't shoot them all, So I would say just do
[24:46] Speaker 7: a little poking around. I'm going to put the call
[24:48] Speaker 7: out though. If somebody knows a good place to find
[24:50] Speaker 7: three hundred to three hundred and five grain hard casts
[24:53] Speaker 7: lead bullets, give us a call. We'll help David out. David,
[24:56] Speaker 7: thank you for the call, sir. Let's grab Tanner on
[24:59] Speaker 7: one out of Durant, Go, Colorado. Tanner, you're on gun Talk.
[25:03] Speaker 7: What's your question.
[25:05] Speaker 13: Yeah, I've been looking at the Ruger RXm. Here in Colorado,
[25:12] Speaker 13: the gun laws are changing August first, and to buy
[25:18] Speaker 13: any semi automatic gun you're gonna have to have a
[25:21] Speaker 13: special card and take some classes. So I'm looking at
[25:24] Speaker 13: a everyday carry this all around. Well, you know, you
[25:29] Speaker 13: good to go right or pistol.
[25:33] Speaker 7: I have one. I like it a lot, shoots really well.
[25:39] Speaker 7: The other thing it's very nice about the RXm design
[25:42] Speaker 7: is that it has it's a chassis gun, so that
[25:45] Speaker 7: the actual firearm is just a part inside, so you
[25:48] Speaker 7: can get different size frames for it. You can get
[25:50] Speaker 7: a compact, you can get a full size, and it's
[25:53] Speaker 7: all the same gun. Once you get the gun, you're
[25:55] Speaker 7: just getting It's like getting different guns, but you don't
[25:57] Speaker 7: have to fill out the paperwork and do all that stuff.
[26:00] Speaker 11: Awesome.
[26:01] Speaker 13: Yeah, I like the sound of that. I'm familiar with
[26:03] Speaker 13: the Gen three block platform. I've built to see Polymer eighties,
[26:09] Speaker 13: so I'm familiar with that, So that sounds like a
[26:12] Speaker 13: pistol that I'd really.
[26:13] Speaker 7: Like to me. The RXm has a better feeling grip
[26:17] Speaker 7: and a little bit different grip angle, and I think
[26:21] Speaker 7: it's better. It's a little bit closer to the standard
[26:24] Speaker 7: nineteen eleven seventeen degree grip angle, and I just think
[26:28] Speaker 7: it shoots better points better than the Gen three blocks.
[26:32] Speaker 7: I think the Gen six block probably fixed some of
[26:36] Speaker 7: those things. But I think the RXm, at what four
[26:39] Speaker 7: hundred and fifty to five hundred bucks is a heck
[26:41] Speaker 7: of a deal.
[26:43] Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a cheap gun.
[26:45] Speaker 13: Are there any variances in the lengths of the barrel
[26:51] Speaker 13: or is it just one? One length and that's it.
[26:54] Speaker 7: As of right now, it's just one. I expect some
[26:56] Speaker 7: others to come out at some point. But like I say,
[27:00] Speaker 7: once you get the gun, you've got the part in there,
[27:02] Speaker 7: and you can put it into different sized grips and
[27:04] Speaker 7: probably different slides, different barrels and everything else. I haven't
[27:07] Speaker 7: looked into all those variables, but I think it's a
[27:10] Speaker 7: good platform. And if you're just trying to figure out
[27:12] Speaker 7: I want to get something before all these laws go in,
[27:15] Speaker 7: if you can get one locally you can find at
[27:17] Speaker 7: the store, I'd probably advise you just to go ahead
[27:20] Speaker 7: and get it.
[27:21] Speaker 11: Awesome.
[27:22] Speaker 13: Well, thank you very much, all.
[27:24] Speaker 7: Right, thanks and good luck with that. I appreciate the call.
[27:27] Speaker 7: Let's grab Robert out of Arkansas. Robert, what's on your
[27:31] Speaker 7: mind sir, Well.
[27:33] Speaker 9: I have a couple of questions, tom, Okay, I gifted
[27:38] Speaker 9: a twelve gate to a friend of mine on the
[27:47] Speaker 9: request that he donate one hundred dollars to the children's hospitals,
[27:52] Speaker 9: which he did. Okay, I want to make sure that
[27:55] Speaker 9: I am legal for doing that.
[28:00] Speaker 7: Only two questions here, is he in state?
[28:04] Speaker 11: Yes?
[28:05] Speaker 7: Okay, so you can do a direct transfer to him?
[28:08] Speaker 7: And do you know he's not a prohibited person. That
[28:12] Speaker 7: is not.
[28:14] Speaker 9: No, he is not a feeling.
[28:16] Speaker 7: Okay. Yeah, that's absolutely not a problem.
[28:21] Speaker 9: Good to go, Erry, Thank you very much for that. Now,
[28:26] Speaker 9: I have, as I told your screener, I have I
[28:31] Speaker 9: love pistols. I have them around my house. I'm a widower,
[28:36] Speaker 9: and so I look at him as furniture that I
[28:40] Speaker 9: might need to use some day.
[28:43] Speaker 7: I never heard it described like that before.
[28:46] Speaker 9: Well, I just I don't ignore them, right, they have
[28:52] Speaker 9: their names. There's you know, two in the kitchen, one
[28:58] Speaker 9: of the living group, one in my bedroom. And we
[29:03] Speaker 9: will not go further than that. But say, if someone
[29:09] Speaker 9: were to break in and steal thee.
[29:15] Speaker 7: Am I liable, probably not in Arkansas. In another state,
[29:25] Speaker 7: they may say, well, you didn't have them locked up,
[29:27] Speaker 7: But you got them locked inside your house? You keep
[29:29] Speaker 7: your house locked, right? Yes, Okay, I don't think so.
[29:35] Speaker 7: At the same time, I guess the question then becomes,
[29:40] Speaker 7: and this is a personal question, because there's no right
[29:42] Speaker 7: or wrong on it, is that being responsible or irresponsible
[29:45] Speaker 7: to have them laying around and not in some kind
[29:49] Speaker 7: of a locked container. I cannot answer that. That's going
[29:52] Speaker 7: to be a personal decision. Are they all loaded.
[30:00] Speaker 11: All the way?
[30:01] Speaker 7: Okay, so they're all loaded? You got loaded guns, and look,
[30:05] Speaker 7: I'm just assuming at this point you don't have grandkids
[30:08] Speaker 7: coming over where they could get access.
[30:11] Speaker 9: No, all right.
[30:13] Speaker 7: Hey, it's your house, your guns. You can keep them
[30:16] Speaker 7: loaded or not loaded. I might double check the locks
[30:20] Speaker 7: of my house, honestly, seriously, just to make sure that
[30:24] Speaker 7: they're secure. Beyond that, if they're in your house. It's
[30:31] Speaker 7: my personal opinion, not a legal opinion, because, like I say,
[30:35] Speaker 7: in various states that law changes and you might be liable.
[30:39] Speaker 7: But my personal opinion is if somebody breaks into the house,
[30:43] Speaker 7: then you should not responsible for them stealing your stuff.
[30:47] Speaker 7: But you know that's kind of where I am. All right,
[30:50] Speaker 7: So give me an example. You say you've named your guns.
[30:54] Speaker 7: Give me an example of a couple of names.
[30:58] Speaker 9: Well, there's then there's Lay and there's Dayla.
[31:04] Speaker 7: Why why are those names?
[31:08] Speaker 9: Because those were important ladies in my life. Eli makes clampet.
[31:15] Speaker 7: I was thinking that might be where that came from.
[31:20] Speaker 9: Well, Dayla is my youngest chaining and so she is
[31:25] Speaker 9: the snubnose revolver. But no, I just like I said,
[31:34] Speaker 9: I actually pet them when I come through, like they're pets.
[31:39] Speaker 9: But I know they're there.
[31:42] Speaker 7: Well, you know, and that's.
[31:43] Speaker 9: All of it.
[31:43] Speaker 7: Are you really describing for those you're thinking, Okay, that
[31:46] Speaker 7: sounds weird. You got a gun collection. This is you know,
[31:49] Speaker 7: you like, look at your guns and your gun collection.
[31:52] Speaker 7: You have them spread out around your house, and the
[31:54] Speaker 7: fact that you keep them loaded is just the fact
[31:56] Speaker 7: that you've got them ready in case you need them
[31:58] Speaker 7: in case of a home break in. But all you're
[32:00] Speaker 7: really describing is a gun collection.
[32:03] Speaker 9: Yes, sir. But now when I say they're loaded, uh,
[32:08] Speaker 9: the ones with magazine, not the revolver. Dayla is a revolver. O.
[32:15] Speaker 9: The rist of them have cartridges and so they're loaded,
[32:21] Speaker 9: but I have to tap and rack.
[32:23] Speaker 7: Okay, so you got a loaded magazine in but nothing
[32:26] Speaker 7: in the chamber, so you would have to rack it, okay, correct,
[32:30] Speaker 7: got you? Okay, you know, and that's I see where
[32:33] Speaker 7: you are there. So somebody couldn't just pick it up
[32:36] Speaker 7: and pull the trigger that's going to go off. I
[32:39] Speaker 7: think that's a reasonable compromised position to be in there.
[32:44] Speaker 7: I love it, Robert. Thank you for the call, sir.
[32:46] Speaker 7: That is fascinating. Just a different way of looking at
[32:49] Speaker 7: your collection there. Speaking of thank you, sir. Speaking of
[32:54] Speaker 7: new laws going into effect, we had to call about
[32:57] Speaker 7: Colorado and we've got a new law going into effecting
[33:01] Speaker 7: Kentucky takes place. I guess this Tuesdays goes into effect.
[33:07] Speaker 7: Allows eighteen to twenty year olds to apply for a
[33:09] Speaker 7: provisional concealed carry license for the first time. House Bill
[33:14] Speaker 7: three to twelve expanded the constil k permits to that
[33:18] Speaker 7: age group, with some restrictions. Let's see here. Oh yeah.
[33:22] Speaker 7: The governor vetoed this bill and saying that Kentuckians under
[33:28] Speaker 7: twenty one are already barred from buying alcohol and tobacco
[33:33] Speaker 7: and that conceil carry should be no different. Really, one's
[33:37] Speaker 7: a constitutional right, the other two are not. But the
[33:42] Speaker 7: Governor's veto got overridden by a twenty eight to nine vote.
[33:48] Speaker 7: So there you go. So that's what's going on in
[33:50] Speaker 7: the state of Kentucky. Let's see, let's go talk to
[33:53] Speaker 7: Tony and Chandler Arizona on four. Hey, Tony, you're up.
[33:58] Speaker 14: Tom. I wanted to comment on the Supreme Court taking
[34:01] Speaker 14: up an assault weapon ban case. My concern is that
[34:06] Speaker 14: the crazy States. Look, you're one hundred percent right. Nobody
[34:11] Speaker 14: knows which ways the Court is going to rule. However,
[34:15] Speaker 14: if they if they, if they roll and rule in
[34:17] Speaker 14: our favor. My concern is that a lot of these states,
[34:20] Speaker 14: the crazy States, are just going to say, we don't
[34:22] Speaker 14: care what the Supreme Court says, we're not changing anything.
[34:25] Speaker 14: The band stays. And the Seventh Circuit up in Illinois
[34:30] Speaker 14: just came out with the ruling basically up upholding Illinois
[34:34] Speaker 14: assault weapons ban, even though the Supreme Court told them
[34:37] Speaker 14: literally two weeks prior, saying hey, we're going to take
[34:39] Speaker 14: this up next session. So I think it's gonna it's
[34:45] Speaker 14: going to be really interesting to see, you know, especially
[34:47] Speaker 14: coming from the party that preaches constantly about the rule
[34:50] Speaker 14: of law and nobody's above the law and anything else. Well,
[34:52] Speaker 14: apparently you're above the law. If you just don't like
[34:54] Speaker 14: what the Supreme Court is telling you to do, so.
[34:57] Speaker 7: Well, I share your concern, but let me say where
[35:00] Speaker 7: I am on this. I think it's going to go
[35:01] Speaker 7: a different way. I think that the AAR fifteen bands
[35:05] Speaker 7: are gonna go away. But I think what's going to
[35:07] Speaker 7: happen is the states are then going to spin around quickly,
[35:10] Speaker 7: the states that have the bands and say, Okay, we
[35:12] Speaker 7: can't ban them. We'll just make it a lot harder
[35:14] Speaker 7: for you to get them. We're going to require you
[35:16] Speaker 7: to take a training course before you can buy one.
[35:19] Speaker 7: We're going to require you to get a permit to purchase.
[35:23] Speaker 7: We're going to require you to spend a whole bunch
[35:25] Speaker 7: of money before you can buy one of these. I
[35:30] Speaker 7: think they're going to throw more roadblocks in front of it.
[35:33] Speaker 7: They'll say, Okay, we can't ban it. Supreme Court says
[35:36] Speaker 7: we can't ban these guns. We're just going to make
[35:38] Speaker 7: it very inconvenient and very expensive. And at that point,
[35:43] Speaker 7: that just generates more And that goes back to what
[35:45] Speaker 7: I was saying earlier. The fight never ends. We always
[35:48] Speaker 7: are going to do this, and they're always going to
[35:50] Speaker 7: be coming back and saying we're gonna put roadblocks in
[35:52] Speaker 7: your way, and then we're going to come back in
[35:54] Speaker 7: the courts and sue them for that and have to
[35:56] Speaker 7: knock that down. So we may love to say next
[36:00] Speaker 7: year we're gonna get rid of all these ar fifteen bands. Yeah,
[36:02] Speaker 7: but you know what, in fifty years, we're still going
[36:04] Speaker 7: to be fighting this because we have been fighting it
[36:06] Speaker 7: for more than fifty years, and we will continue because
[36:09] Speaker 7: there are those who simply don't want us to have
[36:11] Speaker 7: guns at all, and they'll do it a piece of
[36:14] Speaker 7: the time because they think that's what they can do.
[36:16] Speaker 7: So Tony, I appreciate the call, and I appreciate what
[36:18] Speaker 7: you're saying. I'm not sure any stage is going to say, well,
[36:24] Speaker 7: we're just going to ignore that. During the court you're
[36:26] Speaker 7: going to say we're just because you can't they not
[36:30] Speaker 7: without moving well into the revolutionary stage. You can't just
[36:34] Speaker 7: say we're just going to ignore the Supreme Court's rulings
[36:37] Speaker 7: because that is the law. But they will just find
[36:40] Speaker 7: out it's like what they did with Bruin. They say, Okay,
[36:44] Speaker 7: you're saying that we have to issue conceal, okay, permits
[36:48] Speaker 7: the great We're just going to make all the state
[36:50] Speaker 7: a gun free zone, so you can have the permit,
[36:53] Speaker 7: you just can't carry it anywhere. Well, that's what they did.
[36:56] Speaker 7: So we fought back on that one and just won
[36:59] Speaker 7: that case in Hawaii. Will get rid of those vampire rules.
[37:02] Speaker 7: We're going to get rid of the restrictions on where
[37:05] Speaker 7: you can carry. For the most part, it is a
[37:08] Speaker 7: constant battle, and it will continue to be a constant battle.
[37:11] Speaker 7: And just what we are we have to understand this
[37:16] Speaker 7: is we win little battles and we move forward. And
[37:19] Speaker 7: we are moving forward rapidly right now, and we're the
[37:23] Speaker 7: place I never thought we'd get to. Honestly, we are
[37:27] Speaker 7: winning huge and yet we will always have to fight it.
[37:33] Speaker 7: And I guess where I'm going with this. Maybe what
[37:37] Speaker 7: I'm preaching and asking for is a reset on the mindset.
[37:43] Speaker 7: The mindset has to be this is a battle we
[37:47] Speaker 7: fight every day when we get up. If you're a
[37:49] Speaker 7: two A activist, you're serious about this. Every day or
[37:53] Speaker 7: every week, you go get reinformed, what's going on, what's
[37:56] Speaker 7: happening this week. You're following me over on X, You're
[38:00] Speaker 7: following the gun rights groups, you're belonging to the gun
[38:03] Speaker 7: rights groups, your state group and the national groups, and
[38:06] Speaker 7: you just say, look, for the rest of my life,
[38:10] Speaker 7: this is what I'm going to be doing. This is
[38:12] Speaker 7: It's not the only thing I'm going to do, but
[38:14] Speaker 7: it's a very real part of who I am. It's
[38:19] Speaker 7: a big part of what I do, part of my commitment.
[38:23] Speaker 7: I'm a Second Amendment supporter and activist, and I understand
[38:28] Speaker 7: that there will be those who are always trying to
[38:30] Speaker 7: take away our gun rights, and so that means there
[38:33] Speaker 7: will always be me being willing to fight against it
[38:37] Speaker 7: with money and with time. It's kind of the same thing.
[38:39] Speaker 7: In many cases. It's money and time. You can say
[38:44] Speaker 7: you're a Second Amendment supporter, but you're really known by
[38:48] Speaker 7: what you devote your money and your time to. That
[38:50] Speaker 7: tells people who you really are and what you really support.
[38:54] Speaker 7: Flip service online or in person without money and time
[38:58] Speaker 7: being devoted to it pretty much worth this. It just is.
[39:03] Speaker 7: It's a fight we're going to be in forever. I'm in.
[39:05] Speaker 7: I hope that you are eight six six talk gun
[39:08] Speaker 7: gets you in here. We'll be right back with more
[39:10] Speaker 7: gun talk. But I was just talking about the battle
[39:21] Speaker 7: is constant and the gun ban forces. We'll always find
[39:26] Speaker 7: a way. I just got this from Joe, he says,
[39:30] Speaker 7: on July one, the City of San Jose, California, found
[39:35] Speaker 7: a new way to prevent citizens from obtaining a conceal
[39:39] Speaker 7: weapon carry permit without ever going into the legislative process.
[39:45] Speaker 7: So they didn't have to go to the legislature, they
[39:46] Speaker 7: didn't have to pass a law at all. The Sheriff's office,
[39:50] Speaker 7: Joe continues for the City and County of San Jose
[39:54] Speaker 7: simply raised the application fee for a CCP permit to
[40:00] Speaker 7: one thousand and five hundred and ninety one dollars, with
[40:05] Speaker 7: three hundred and eighteen dollars of that being non refundable
[40:09] Speaker 7: due at the time of the filing. One thousand and
[40:12] Speaker 7: five hundred and ninety one dollars to get a conceal
[40:15] Speaker 7: K permit, he says, not counting the cost of the gun.
[40:19] Speaker 7: When you add in all the other associated costs like
[40:22] Speaker 7: testing fees and costs, obtaining a carry permit in the
[40:27] Speaker 7: City and County of San Jose will now cost you
[40:31] Speaker 7: over two thousand dollars. It's just the kind of thing
[40:36] Speaker 7: that I would expect Harmy Dylon from the Department of
[40:39] Speaker 7: Justice to jump on and file suit. But it does
[40:45] Speaker 7: show you the links to which the gun banners will go,
[40:51] Speaker 7: and in this case you simply have a Shaff's department says, Oh,
[40:55] Speaker 7: we're just going to raise the fees because we can,
[40:59] Speaker 7: because we actually don't want anybody here to have a
[41:01] Speaker 7: carry permit. Even though people with carry permits, and this
[41:07] Speaker 7: is documented in state after state of state, people with
[41:13] Speaker 7: carry permits essentially don't commit crime. I mean, it's so
[41:17] Speaker 7: close to none as to be none. People with carry
[41:22] Speaker 7: permits commit crimes at a rate of about one percent
[41:28] Speaker 7: of the general public. People with carry permits commit crimes
[41:34] Speaker 7: at a rate of about one fifth that of police officers.
[41:38] Speaker 7: Let me put that in a different way. Police officers
[41:40] Speaker 7: are five times as likely to commit a crime as
[41:42] Speaker 7: somebody with a conceal carry permit, and your average member
[41:45] Speaker 7: of the public walking down the street is one hundred
[41:49] Speaker 7: times more likely to commit a crime than somebody who
[41:52] Speaker 7: has a conceal carry permit. The mere act of applying
[41:57] Speaker 7: for a conceal carry permit pretty much guarantees, not completely,
[42:03] Speaker 7: but close to guarantees that this is a responsible person,
[42:08] Speaker 7: a person who obeys the laws, a person who takes
[42:10] Speaker 7: responsibility for himself or herself and wants to do it
[42:14] Speaker 7: right and will spend the money and the time to
[42:17] Speaker 7: get the permit. And yet you have the San Jose
[42:22] Speaker 7: Shares Department saying, yeah, we don't want anybody to have
[42:25] Speaker 7: a carry permit, so we're going to make it really
[42:28] Speaker 7: hard and really expensive. That's my example of how the
[42:34] Speaker 7: fight is always going to continue. And they'll say, yeah,
[42:38] Speaker 7: well we're not blocking anybody. You can. Everybody can get
[42:40] Speaker 7: a permit. We just have to cover our costs. Right,
[42:47] Speaker 7: that's what you're doing. You're covering your costs. I don't
[42:51] Speaker 7: think so, not when it almost takes nothing to do
[42:56] Speaker 7: a background check these days. Just putting barriers in the way,
[43:04] Speaker 7: and it will continue, simple as that. So all right,
[43:09] Speaker 7: we're gonna switch for you. And when we come back here,
[43:11] Speaker 7: I want to talk a little bit about gunsmithing. Is
[43:16] Speaker 7: gunsmithing still alive? And well can you make a living
[43:20] Speaker 7: as a gunsmith in America? And also what's being done
[43:24] Speaker 7: to help promote gunsmithing and specialized areas within that. It's
[43:29] Speaker 7: an interesting subject and we're going to cover that, and of
[43:32] Speaker 7: course we'll take your calls looking for range reports as always,
[43:35] Speaker 7: things you've been shooting guns, you've been buying, maybe even
[43:39] Speaker 7: something you sold. Although some people say I never sell guns,
[43:42] Speaker 7: well I do. I want to buy one gun, I
[43:44] Speaker 7: might sell two or three to get a better way
[43:47] Speaker 7: upgrading

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