# White House Press Dinner Shooting; Acting AG Todd Blanche On Guns; Survival With Guns

An episode of [Gun Talk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/190516844), 26 Apr 2026, 44 min.

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In This Hour: -- Everyone has seen the video of the attacker rushing past security at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. What lessons can we each learn from that? -- Todd Blanche, acting Attorney General of the U.S., talks with Tom about gun rights, his plan to help the Second Amendment, and his surprise that his mother has a carry permit! -- What are the real-world takeaways from this most recent attack on President Trump?Gun Talk 04.26.26 Hour 1 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/gun-talk--6185159/support.

## Transcript

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[0:39] Speaker 3: this is Gun Talk. To gather here every week to
[0:41] Speaker 3: talk about guns and shooting and optics and mo and
[0:44] Speaker 3: pistols and rifles and shotguns and of course self defense.
[0:47] Speaker 3: And we want to even talk about the news of
[0:49] Speaker 3: the day, which we will be doing today. Yeah, we
[0:53] Speaker 3: had to make some changes in our lineup today because
[0:55] Speaker 3: the news from last night. We had a guy rush
[1:00] Speaker 3: the security checkpoint, got through, part of it didn't get
[1:04] Speaker 3: very far, frankly, at the White House Correspondence dinner in Washington,
[1:09] Speaker 3: d C. Of course, you've seen all the videos. They
[1:12] Speaker 3: evacuated the President and the cabinet and all these people
[1:16] Speaker 3: who were there. It's fascinating. And we're now in the
[1:21] Speaker 3: as I'm speaking to you today on Sunday afternoon. We're
[1:23] Speaker 3: in the We don't know anything more about it, but
[1:25] Speaker 3: that doesn't keep us from talking about at stage and
[1:28] Speaker 3: a lot of nonsense about guns and gun control and
[1:32] Speaker 3: should you be able to take a gun on a train? Well,
[1:34] Speaker 3: why isn't this checked?
[1:36] Speaker 4: Well?
[1:36] Speaker 3: Why don't you have to declare this noise? Noise? I
[1:41] Speaker 3: was thinking about this and think, Okay, we saw this
[1:43] Speaker 3: event and everybody's okay right now? Is there a takeaway
[1:48] Speaker 3: for us? And I'm not talking about what should the
[1:52] Speaker 3: Secret Service do or what could they do better, or
[1:55] Speaker 3: what could we do better if we were there? No, no, no, no,
[1:58] Speaker 3: I'm talking about real world stuff that matters to you,
[2:03] Speaker 3: things that can help you, that we can get out
[2:06] Speaker 3: of us event, and there are things we can take
[2:08] Speaker 3: away from this.
[2:10] Speaker 4: Now.
[2:10] Speaker 3: I'm going to get into this a good bit more
[2:12] Speaker 3: in the show today, but I'm not going to turn
[2:15] Speaker 3: the whole show over to this because we have other
[2:17] Speaker 3: things to talk about. But let me just say this.
[2:20] Speaker 3: You've seen by now the video of this guy running
[2:25] Speaker 3: and rushing past security people, secret Service agents, and the
[2:31] Speaker 3: one agent who got completely startled and has to do
[2:35] Speaker 3: a draw from concealment and gets his gun out and
[2:39] Speaker 3: people are saying, wow, I just took him forever and thinking, yeah,
[2:41] Speaker 3: you know, you've never been startled like that. And so
[2:45] Speaker 3: I am now calling that a training film better than
[2:50] Speaker 3: most things you can get on YouTube. And as you
[2:52] Speaker 3: look at that, what are the takeaways? I have some
[2:55] Speaker 3: for you. And I think we can take that training
[2:59] Speaker 3: film and can incorporate it and make ourselves better. And
[3:03] Speaker 3: I'll get to that in just a few minutes. But
[3:06] Speaker 3: I did want to get to this. When I was
[3:08] Speaker 3: at the NA Annual meetings, I had a chance to interview, unbelievably,
[3:13] Speaker 3: the acting US Attorney General. You see him on TV
[3:16] Speaker 3: over the last twenty four hours, Todd Blinch, and we
[3:20] Speaker 3: would grab him and talk to him about guns and
[3:23] Speaker 3: the Second Amendment and the Department of Justice. And then
[3:26] Speaker 3: he had this surprise thing. You got to listen for this.
[3:28] Speaker 3: He talks about being surprised about what his mother just
[3:32] Speaker 3: told him. Here's that interview. All right, it's a real treat.
[3:35] Speaker 3: Right now, we're at the course of the RA Annual
[3:37] Speaker 3: Meetings in Houston, and unbelievably to us, I am so
[3:41] Speaker 3: glad I Todd Blanche is here. He is the acting
[3:44] Speaker 3: US Attorney General. Now that Pam Body is out, you're
[3:48] Speaker 3: feeling that slot now maybe permanently. We don't know. We
[3:52] Speaker 3: did not know, okay, And as you say, with Donald
[3:56] Speaker 3: Trump in church, you never know.
[3:57] Speaker 4: That's right, That's right. That's why we love him, all right.
[4:00] Speaker 3: Tell everybody a little bit about your background.
[4:02] Speaker 5: So I'm from Colorado originally, I lived in New York
[4:06] Speaker 5: for a long time. My family, my wife's family, has
[4:10] Speaker 5: been in the gun manufacturing business for forty years. The
[4:13] Speaker 5: manufacturer magazines, a check making checkmate industries.
[4:18] Speaker 4: So my father in law started it in nineteen sixty
[4:21] Speaker 4: eight sixty nine.
[4:23] Speaker 5: And so I've been part of this fight, struggle, everything
[4:28] Speaker 5: that we've that we've been going through as a.
[4:30] Speaker 4: Nation for really for forty years.
[4:34] Speaker 3: So you mean you're part of the gun industry. I
[4:36] Speaker 3: am yeah, okay, but now you're in charge of the
[4:39] Speaker 3: US Department of Justice.
[4:40] Speaker 4: I am yes.
[4:41] Speaker 3: So how do you put those together? I know people
[4:43] Speaker 3: are saying, well, why can't you fix everything by the
[4:46] Speaker 3: end of work today? So it takes a while.
[4:49] Speaker 4: It's a great question.
[4:50] Speaker 5: So the important thing for everybody to realize is that
[4:54] Speaker 5: the way this country works is regulations, are put in place,
[4:57] Speaker 5: and it takes time to unwind them. And that's a
[5:01] Speaker 5: bad fact, but it's true. And so what we're doing
[5:04] Speaker 5: and what President Trump did on January twentieth, the issued
[5:06] Speaker 5: in executive order and it said very simply, we are
[5:09] Speaker 5: going to restore Second Amendment rights. Okay, so easy, let's
[5:14] Speaker 5: do it. And here we and and but let me
[5:15] Speaker 5: tell you what we have done. At the Department of Justice.
[5:18] Speaker 5: We we hired a law professor who clerk for Justice,
[5:22] Speaker 5: Clarence Thomas, one of the best Second Amendment justices we've
[5:25] Speaker 5: ever had. He is really the only Second Amendment law
[5:29] Speaker 5: professor I think out there.
[5:30] Speaker 4: He's a genius.
[5:31] Speaker 5: We hired him and we said, okay, we want you
[5:34] Speaker 5: to go and rework every single regulation consistent with this
[5:38] Speaker 5: President's directive. And and that takes a lot of time.
[5:42] Speaker 5: But I will tell you, and I'm going to say
[5:43] Speaker 5: it tonight when when I when I get a chance
[5:45] Speaker 5: to speak to a lot of other members that we
[5:47] Speaker 5: are days away from releasing that they have been approved
[5:51] Speaker 5: by the President on down.
[5:53] Speaker 3: And releasing what what are you raising.
[5:56] Speaker 4: All the new changes to the regulations.
[5:58] Speaker 5: So so, for example of f fl's will, will will
[6:02] Speaker 5: scream and kick correctly that the regulations that are in
[6:05] Speaker 5: place that make it impossible do their jobs. Everything from
[6:09] Speaker 5: from you know there there's certain signature requirements. Right, you
[6:12] Speaker 5: cannot sell a firearmylestor in person with the person.
[6:15] Speaker 4: Why is that? We have all kinds of ways to
[6:17] Speaker 4: do things. You can get something.
[6:19] Speaker 5: Notarized over the computernically, electronically, you can file your taxes electronically.
[6:23] Speaker 5: How come I cannot sell a gun to you without
[6:26] Speaker 5: violating some regulation that should not exist. So so that's
[6:30] Speaker 5: one example. Some of the other examples that are more
[6:33] Speaker 5: meaningful that that will well, we'll keep for the next week.
[6:36] Speaker 5: But I think that any gun owner, anybody who's in
[6:40] Speaker 5: the industry, whether you're a manufacturer, whether you're a resaler,
[6:44] Speaker 5: they're going to be to realize that this administration is
[6:47] Speaker 5: going to do more to to to restore rights to
[6:50] Speaker 5: where they belong than any administration in history.
[6:54] Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you a lot of people
[6:56] Speaker 3: on the gun and the gun family, in the gun
[6:58] Speaker 3: culture have been frustrated. They've thought, you know, why can't
[7:03] Speaker 3: we move faster. At the same time, having I've been
[7:07] Speaker 3: in DC worked in DC, things move so slowly in
[7:11] Speaker 3: a certain way. You're actually moving at warp speed right now, Yeah,
[7:15] Speaker 3: because you want to do it right.
[7:16] Speaker 5: So what we've done going back to Reagan administration is
[7:20] Speaker 5: the gun industry takes two steps forward, and then a
[7:23] Speaker 5: Democrat comes in and takes us eight steps back. And
[7:26] Speaker 5: then we come in and we go two step forward,
[7:28] Speaker 5: and then the next administration comes in. So we're not
[7:31] Speaker 5: gonna do that. We're not gonna take two steps forward.
[7:33] Speaker 5: We're gonna take We're gonna go forward a mile. And
[7:36] Speaker 5: that means doing it right. So that means making sure
[7:39] Speaker 5: that we're gonna get sued. We're gonna get sued the
[7:42] Speaker 5: day after we release these rags, right, and we don't care.
[7:45] Speaker 4: That's what we expect.
[7:46] Speaker 5: But what we want to do is be in a
[7:47] Speaker 5: position to build, defend those lawsuits, and win because we're
[7:50] Speaker 5: doing it the right way. The other thing I'll say
[7:53] Speaker 5: is we have been doing a lot. So whether it's
[7:55] Speaker 5: it's joining lawsuits when states are trying to mess with
[7:58] Speaker 5: your Second Amendment rights. You know, you had administrations, even
[8:01] Speaker 5: Republican administrations, that just stood on the sidelines. We are
[8:04] Speaker 5: not standing on the sidelence. Her Meat Dylan of our
[8:06] Speaker 5: civil rights group. She is filing lawsuits left and right
[8:09] Speaker 5: to defend the sevens.
[8:10] Speaker 4: She's awesome.
[8:11] Speaker 5: Look what we just are getting front of the Supreme
[8:13] Speaker 5: Court a law in Hawaii that basically removes any gun
[8:16] Speaker 5: owners right to conceal and carry. If we win that,
[8:20] Speaker 5: that not only affects Hawaii, it affects California.
[8:24] Speaker 4: All all the states have passed similar loss.
[8:26] Speaker 3: Hey, we're gonna win that one.
[8:27] Speaker 4: Amen.
[8:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all right. So as you look at
[8:30] Speaker 3: the Supreme Court now we're trying to get through to
[8:32] Speaker 3: take a few more cases. We'd love for them at
[8:34] Speaker 3: some point to take a so called assault weapon at
[8:36] Speaker 3: least to semi automatic ban if we can get that done,
[8:39] Speaker 3: because under Heller and Bruin it says you cannot ban
[8:42] Speaker 3: these guns. Right, But the states keep doing that.
[8:44] Speaker 5: They keep on doing it, and until there's enough lawsuits
[8:48] Speaker 5: that they lose, they're not going to start AR Fifteen's
[8:50] Speaker 5: that that's the best example that is putting aside what
[8:53] Speaker 5: it was thirty years ago. That is a sporting rifle.
[8:56] Speaker 5: That is a rifle that Americans that they have every
[8:58] Speaker 5: right to own like any other firearm.
[9:00] Speaker 3: And it doesn't have to be a sporting rifle. To
[9:02] Speaker 3: fall under the Second Amendment, that doesn't matter.
[9:05] Speaker 5: But but there's other rigs that that restrict it because
[9:07] Speaker 5: it's not labeled as a sporting rival.
[9:09] Speaker 4: So we gotta we got to fix those rigs as well.
[9:12] Speaker 5: And so it's it's something that that that is going
[9:16] Speaker 5: to be a sea change. I think as far as
[9:19] Speaker 5: DJ is concerned in Second Amendment protections, to what extent.
[9:24] Speaker 3: Have you gotten reluctance resistance with n d OJ to
[9:29] Speaker 3: advance in the Second Amendment?
[9:31] Speaker 4: None?
[9:32] Speaker 5: And I'm going to say what I mean by that.
[9:34] Speaker 5: You have a president who champions the Second Amendment. His
[9:37] Speaker 5: sons are better shots than.
[9:40] Speaker 4: Any of us.
[9:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, serious, right, people.
[9:42] Speaker 5: He got the White House Counsel Dave Warranton, who is
[9:44] Speaker 5: the biggest Second Mement proponent you've ever seen. Okay, you
[9:47] Speaker 5: have me, you have Harmeat Dylon, We you have Rob Sakata,
[9:50] Speaker 5: our new hope hopefully soon to be confirmed ATF director.
[9:54] Speaker 5: He owns more guns than probably most people in this
[9:57] Speaker 5: convention center. That's saying a lot. But I'll stand by
[10:00] Speaker 5: and then, like I said, you have this. You have
[10:02] Speaker 5: a general counsel of HF who's a Clarence Thomas Clerk,
[10:05] Speaker 5: who is devoted to Second Amendment.
[10:07] Speaker 4: So this, this.
[10:08] Speaker 5: Has never happened before, and we are running on all cylinders.
[10:12] Speaker 5: It took a while because we're you know, we're a
[10:15] Speaker 5: year in, but you know, it takes a while to
[10:16] Speaker 5: get started and we're working.
[10:18] Speaker 3: So all right, You're walking around the four here at
[10:21] Speaker 3: the Nterra, You're seeing all these people, and I know
[10:24] Speaker 3: you've got security. I had this funny thought. I thought, well,
[10:27] Speaker 3: you know, and you know a lot of people here
[10:29] Speaker 3: walking around carrying guns, but it's the friendliest bunch of
[10:32] Speaker 3: people you'll ever run into.
[10:34] Speaker 4: And where you go.
[10:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[10:35] Speaker 5: Absolutely. I was just with my parents. My mom just
[10:39] Speaker 5: told me for the first time, she has a concealed
[10:41] Speaker 5: carry permit.
[10:41] Speaker 4: Oh you know, that's okay. I love it. I love it.
[10:45] Speaker 5: No, that's right, And that's the beauty of That's the
[10:48] Speaker 5: what Americans, Americans know, but sometimes Washington forgets, is that
[10:53] Speaker 5: that's what Gunnar ship is about in this country, and
[10:55] Speaker 5: that's why it works, and that's why that's what President
[10:59] Speaker 5: Trump has said for fifteen years. And that's a New
[11:02] Speaker 5: Yorker saying that. So you know, it's it's it's the
[11:05] Speaker 5: way it's going to be.
[11:05] Speaker 3: All right, So what your wish list. You're in a
[11:08] Speaker 3: great position right now. You say, Okay, this is what
[11:09] Speaker 3: I would love for us to be able to accomplish
[11:11] Speaker 3: over the next year or two.
[11:13] Speaker 5: I want to I want change that lasts beyond this administration.
[11:16] Speaker 5: I don't want to. We're working with ATF every day.
[11:19] Speaker 5: They are no longer going after FFLs, they are no
[11:22] Speaker 5: longer there's no longer a zero tolerance policy where if
[11:25] Speaker 5: you do not cross the tea or dot and I,
[11:27] Speaker 5: we're going to shut you down. However, that only helps
[11:30] Speaker 5: for a couple of years. So what my goal is
[11:33] Speaker 5: to is to work to put regulations and do and
[11:36] Speaker 5: change the Department of Justice approach so that no matter
[11:40] Speaker 5: what happens in three years, it's going to stay longer than.
[11:43] Speaker 3: It's not just changing policy, because policy can be changed,
[11:46] Speaker 3: you're actually going to change the regulations and such regulations resources.
[11:49] Speaker 5: So instead of hiring a bunch of guys to go
[11:52] Speaker 5: civil guys to go look at FFLs, we should be
[11:54] Speaker 5: hiring specialations to go arrest robbers. Right, that's what we
[11:57] Speaker 5: should be spending our money on. So that then that's
[11:59] Speaker 5: what we're doing.
[12:00] Speaker 3: There. You go, Todd Bees, thank you so much. Not
[12:02] Speaker 3: just for doing the interview. Thank you for what you're doing.
[12:04] Speaker 4: Thank you. Harfria is great doing it anytime.
[12:06] Speaker 3: Don't go far, We'll be right back with more gun talk.
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[14:49] Speaker 3: All right, we move into current events. We have the shooting,
[14:54] Speaker 3: the attack, the assault, if you will, at the White
[14:57] Speaker 3: House Correspondence Dender last night in Warshton, and the guy
[15:02] Speaker 3: sounds like maybe he got off a shot. We'll see,
[15:05] Speaker 3: there's still some a little bit unclarity helds up for
[15:09] Speaker 3: a word on exactly what happened. We'll get more information,
[15:14] Speaker 3: perhaps probably a lot of takeaways. One of the things
[15:18] Speaker 3: that I was listening to the interview with Todd Blanche
[15:20] Speaker 3: that I did a week or so ago in Houston
[15:23] Speaker 3: at the NRA Show, where he's saying that Department of
[15:25] Speaker 3: Justice is about to release a whole bunch of new
[15:30] Speaker 3: regulations or undoing regulations on guns. It all sounded great,
[15:36] Speaker 3: and then I thought, wait a minute, with this thing
[15:39] Speaker 3: last night and everybody in the media hollered about guns
[15:42] Speaker 3: and gun control, Dr Jay may back off on that
[15:47] Speaker 3: and postponent if they were planning on doing it this
[15:50] Speaker 3: coming week. My guess is they probably would not release
[15:55] Speaker 3: that information next week, probably would let this other thing
[15:59] Speaker 3: cool down just a little bit in the news cycle.
[16:03] Speaker 3: I have no information on that. I'm just kind of guessing,
[16:06] Speaker 3: having watched this thing for a long time, so I
[16:10] Speaker 3: mentioned going into the show today. And by the way,
[16:12] Speaker 3: if you want to call in on this, by all
[16:13] Speaker 3: means do that, just call me a Tom Talk Gun
[16:16] Speaker 3: if you got a thought about it. As I'm watching
[16:21] Speaker 3: this guy rush the security station in this video, I mean,
[16:26] Speaker 3: this guy's fast. He was running fast, and the Secret
[16:30] Speaker 3: Service agent gets completely surprised and startled, which you would.
[16:34] Speaker 3: This guy just comes blow it out of nowhere, and
[16:37] Speaker 3: he's wearing a sport coat orsuit and this agent has
[16:42] Speaker 3: to reach in and draw from concealment and gets his
[16:44] Speaker 3: gun out while he's spinning around while he's almost falling down.
[16:49] Speaker 3: And I was littered at that, and the words came
[16:53] Speaker 3: back to me that I have repeated so often here
[16:56] Speaker 3: that when we first created our show Person Defender, where
[17:00] Speaker 3: we put people into self defense situation. So I said, look, well,
[17:03] Speaker 3: here two things all the time. Those two things are
[17:06] Speaker 3: after the scenario, after they get attacked. I never thought
[17:11] Speaker 3: of that. And the one that everybody says is wow,
[17:15] Speaker 3: that happens so fast. Well, yes, and we can mock
[17:21] Speaker 3: that and say obviously, because if it happened slowly, it
[17:25] Speaker 3: wouldn't be much of an attack, and you would just
[17:28] Speaker 3: walk around away from it or avoid it. Attacks generally
[17:32] Speaker 3: happened quickly. So let's take those two things and see
[17:38] Speaker 3: what can we do with those, what can we pull
[17:40] Speaker 3: from those where we could get some advantage out of
[17:42] Speaker 3: this whole thing. We're looking at this video of this
[17:46] Speaker 3: guy racing past the cigaret serviceation and he just having
[17:50] Speaker 3: draws gun out. He actually did a pretty good job
[17:53] Speaker 3: a geting his gun out and getting it up. My
[17:56] Speaker 3: question to you and base, Okay, what I'm going to
[18:00] Speaker 3: do I'll call to action hear, is how much do
[18:04] Speaker 3: you practice your draw if you are look, I get it.
[18:09] Speaker 3: Not everybody. In fact, most people don't carry a gun.
[18:11] Speaker 3: Most people don't do concealed carry. I understand that. And
[18:15] Speaker 3: if you don't, if it's not right for you, that
[18:17] Speaker 3: it's not right for you. I would argue that I
[18:22] Speaker 3: think you're probably making a mistake, but it's your mistake
[18:25] Speaker 3: to make. It's your life and the life of the
[18:28] Speaker 3: people around you that you care about. And you're saying no,
[18:30] Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. Cool, you figure that
[18:33] Speaker 3: out for yourself. But if you are a person who carries,
[18:38] Speaker 3: and a lot of people do tens of millions of
[18:40] Speaker 3: people do carry? How much do you practice? How often
[18:48] Speaker 3: do you practice? And of course that'll lead us into
[18:51] Speaker 3: a conversation about the difference between training and practice. They are,
[18:54] Speaker 3: in fact two different things. If you're training, there's an
[18:58] Speaker 3: instructor involved. That's the easiest way I can think I
[19:01] Speaker 3: have to explain it. Going to the range and shooting
[19:05] Speaker 3: by yourself or with your buddies is not training. It's practice,
[19:09] Speaker 3: and that's good, that's worthwhile. But you need the training first,
[19:12] Speaker 3: so you need to know that way you'll know what
[19:14] Speaker 3: to practice. Otherwise you may just be grooving some really
[19:18] Speaker 3: bad habits. Boy, I see it all the time, horrible habits.
[19:23] Speaker 3: How do you put your hand on the gun in
[19:26] Speaker 3: the holster? That's one step. What do you do with
[19:30] Speaker 3: your other hand while you're reaching for your gun? You go, huh, well, yeah,
[19:36] Speaker 3: you're the gun. That's not going to the hand. Rather,
[19:39] Speaker 3: that's not going to the gun. It has a specific
[19:41] Speaker 3: place it needs to be. If you don't know where
[19:44] Speaker 3: it's supposed to be, you haven't had the right training.
[19:49] Speaker 3: Let me just tell you right now, that other hand
[19:51] Speaker 3: that off end you got to go right to the
[19:52] Speaker 3: middle of your chest or to your back belt buckle.
[19:55] Speaker 3: Why is that so that when you get a good
[19:57] Speaker 3: firing grip. Oh, let me say that again, a fire
[20:00] Speaker 3: reading grip on the gun while it's in the holster.
[20:05] Speaker 3: That way, when it comes out, you're not fumbling around
[20:08] Speaker 3: with it. I had to clean up my act on
[20:11] Speaker 3: that one. You're not fumbling around with it and trying
[20:14] Speaker 3: to get a good grip on the gun as you
[20:16] Speaker 3: are drawing it. No, you get a good grip on
[20:17] Speaker 3: the gun in the holster before it comes out with
[20:21] Speaker 3: your other hand, your support hand against your chest, and
[20:24] Speaker 3: then that gun comes straight up out of your holster.
[20:26] Speaker 3: I'm assuming at three o'clock at this point. If you're
[20:29] Speaker 3: doing an appendix carry, you can make it work for
[20:32] Speaker 3: you too. And then you marry your two hands up
[20:37] Speaker 3: right there next to your chest, right next to your chest,
[20:39] Speaker 3: not out there somewhere in front of you, because if
[20:41] Speaker 3: you have that support hand waving out in front of
[20:44] Speaker 3: you somewhere and then the gun tries to find that
[20:47] Speaker 3: so you can get the two handed grip, inevitably you're
[20:51] Speaker 3: going to points your muscle at your hand. Jerry, A
[20:55] Speaker 3: bad idea kind of violates one of the basic rules.
[20:59] Speaker 3: Probably a lot of them, so you get some training
[21:04] Speaker 3: on how to do this. And they like to say, look,
[21:06] Speaker 3: when you come out of your class, you are Let's
[21:09] Speaker 3: just assume you are at one. The next day you're
[21:14] Speaker 3: at ninety nine percent, and the next day you're at
[21:17] Speaker 3: ninety eight percent, and so on and so forth. Do
[21:22] Speaker 3: you practice your draw daily? Yes, daily, because otherwise you're
[21:30] Speaker 3: dropping off a percent. You ought to spend five or
[21:34] Speaker 3: ten minutes doing dry practice with an unloaded gun. Please
[21:39] Speaker 3: practice your draw practice from concealment. Doesn't have to be fast,
[21:42] Speaker 3: although it should be relatively fast because you should be
[21:45] Speaker 3: at that level. Practice drawing from concealment, getting it out
[21:49] Speaker 3: and get it on target. Press the trigger with the
[21:52] Speaker 3: gun pointed in a safe direction with a triple checked
[21:55] Speaker 3: unloaded gun. Daily practice. I don't know. You tell me
[22:02] Speaker 3: it's important. Of course it's important. Otherwise you're gonna be slow.
[22:05] Speaker 3: Otherwise you're gonna behind the curve. Otherwise that guy's gonna
[22:08] Speaker 3: run right past you, or maybe run up on top
[22:11] Speaker 3: of you and maybe stick a knife in your chest.
[22:14] Speaker 3: Happens every day. Eight six y six talk gun, be
[22:17] Speaker 3: right back, all right back for here here, Tom Gresher,
[22:26] Speaker 3: you can give you a call eight six to six
[22:27] Speaker 3: talk gun. Let me get something said here. I want
[22:30] Speaker 3: to get this out. An attack on the July elected
[22:35] Speaker 3: president is an attack on the presidency, is an attack
[22:41] Speaker 3: on the democratic process, is an attack on the country.
[22:47] Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter who is the elected president. Okay,
[22:55] Speaker 3: put that in your pipe and smoke it. Let's go. Okay,
[22:59] Speaker 3: David dropped about that. David, we had this attack in
[23:05] Speaker 3: DC and the guy reportedly had a handgun and a
[23:09] Speaker 3: shotgun and some knives, And of course the usual characters
[23:13] Speaker 3: are losing their minds with the fact that he was
[23:15] Speaker 3: able to travel cross country with firearms. How could you
[23:18] Speaker 3: travel cross country with firearms and not have to declare them? Well,
[23:21] Speaker 3: how can you travel with a typewriter or a computer
[23:24] Speaker 3: or a phone without declaring it? First Amendment? Second same thing? People?
[23:29] Speaker 3: Good lord? Why shotgun? Well, there are a lot of
[23:34] Speaker 3: people that don't know much about shotguns. I actually had
[23:37] Speaker 3: somebody said, well, a shotgun only has two shots, right, Well, no,
[23:41] Speaker 3: double world has only two shots. A pump or automatic
[23:45] Speaker 3: could have eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, depending on how it's configured.
[23:50] Speaker 3: Each one could have nine to twenty projectiles in each shell.
[23:58] Speaker 3: So it's not exactly a cluster bomb, but it's it's
[24:02] Speaker 3: close to it something you can handhold. The idea. It
[24:06] Speaker 3: sounds like he was trying to shoot members of the cabinet,
[24:13] Speaker 3: the people to support people. Yeah, if you could get Trump, fine,
[24:16] Speaker 3: but he wanted to shoot other people too. We'll get
[24:18] Speaker 3: more information as to go along. And I was talking
[24:22] Speaker 3: about the idea that we all of us, each of us,
[24:27] Speaker 3: can get some information, get some valuable information. Training, some
[24:32] Speaker 3: takeaways if you will, from watching the video of this
[24:35] Speaker 3: guy running past the Secret Service agents. And my thing
[24:38] Speaker 3: was just look, it happens very quickly, very quickly, one second,
[24:43] Speaker 3: two second, three seconds, and in five seconds it's over.
[24:46] Speaker 3: Whatever it was. Do you practice your draw every day
[24:54] Speaker 3: and you know it doesn't You don't have to spend
[24:56] Speaker 3: an hour doing it. You can spend five minutes doing it.
[24:58] Speaker 3: I mean literally five minutes, says you're set the time
[25:01] Speaker 3: on your phone. In five minutes, you can practice a
[25:04] Speaker 3: lot of different draws. Start slow, make sure your basics
[25:08] Speaker 3: are there, go through the motions as you have been trained.
[25:12] Speaker 3: I hope you've been trained. Work on side alignment, good site, picture, trigger, press,
[25:21] Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, with every shot fired or
[25:25] Speaker 3: every dry fire fire, you have two site pictures. You
[25:30] Speaker 3: have the site picture before it goes off, and you
[25:32] Speaker 3: have the site picture after it goes off. I see
[25:37] Speaker 3: people all the time, In fact, the vast majority of people,
[25:40] Speaker 3: they fire a shot and they're dropping the gun back down.
[25:45] Speaker 3: Actually is the SHOT's going off, no follow through whatsoever.
[25:50] Speaker 3: Imagine that you have to fire another shot that the
[25:53] Speaker 3: bad guy may not be impressed with your first shot.
[25:57] Speaker 3: He may decide I'm just going to keep heading towards you.
[26:00] Speaker 3: So if you fire once, you get two site pictures.
[26:03] Speaker 3: If you fire twice, you get three site pictures. Every
[26:06] Speaker 3: shot has two site pictures. So put that into your
[26:10] Speaker 3: dry fire mix so that every time it goes click,
[26:14] Speaker 3: you're still holding the sites on the target for like
[26:16] Speaker 3: a count of one, you know, one thousand and one.
[26:19] Speaker 3: Hold it okay, come back to the holster, then draw again, click,
[26:24] Speaker 3: hold that site picture. And you need have something to
[26:28] Speaker 3: aim at, some specific small thing to get a good
[26:31] Speaker 3: site picture and hold on to it when you're dry firing,
[26:33] Speaker 3: preferably someplace where. If you totally screwed up and everything
[26:37] Speaker 3: went wrong and you launched a bullet, it wouldn't kill anybody.
[26:41] Speaker 3: It would go into a bookcase or a gun safe
[26:44] Speaker 3: or something that woul stop a bullet, or at least
[26:48] Speaker 3: something that you find to be not as expensive and
[26:51] Speaker 3: catastrophic as other things. Is that another layer that's unnecessary,
[26:58] Speaker 3: That there's no unnecessary layers of security and safety. Here's
[27:01] Speaker 3: another thought for you. You know, of course, the people
[27:04] Speaker 3: who were in the hall, three thousand of them, they
[27:07] Speaker 3: say they couldn't carry guns, so they didn't have anything
[27:11] Speaker 3: to shoot back with, But that doesn't mean they couldn't
[27:15] Speaker 3: have safety equipment with them. I just checked her in
[27:19] Speaker 3: the break just to make sure, because I was pretty
[27:22] Speaker 3: sure I had it with me. But I mean, I'm
[27:24] Speaker 3: at my house in my studio and I've got a
[27:28] Speaker 3: tourniquet and compressed gauze in a pocket in my pants
[27:32] Speaker 3: right here walking around the house. Why, I don't know.
[27:37] Speaker 3: I don't know what could happen, something anything. It's just
[27:40] Speaker 3: part of what I do, it's part of who I am.
[27:44] Speaker 3: One of the things that would very much encourage you
[27:46] Speaker 3: to do, and it's free almost everywhere is take one
[27:50] Speaker 3: of those stop the bleed classes the Red Cross offers
[27:54] Speaker 3: of a lot of places offer them. It's seriously about
[27:57] Speaker 3: a half day class it's nothing. If you can stop bleeding,
[28:01] Speaker 3: you can save a life. So imagine you were in
[28:04] Speaker 3: a place like that and somebody comes in and shoots
[28:07] Speaker 3: somebody and they're bleeding a lot. Shooting's over, but the
[28:12] Speaker 3: bleeding is still going on. If you have a basic
[28:15] Speaker 3: kit and basic skills, you have the ability to stop
[28:19] Speaker 3: the bleeding and save a life. Whether it's a tourniquet
[28:21] Speaker 3: or gauze or whatever, you have got to know how
[28:24] Speaker 3: to use it, though just having it doesn't get it
[28:27] Speaker 3: done for you. It's really cheap to get a good tourniquet.
[28:33] Speaker 3: Make that part of your everyday carry, whether it's on
[28:35] Speaker 3: a pouch, on your belt or in my case, I
[28:38] Speaker 3: wear cargo pants. I've kind of switched over, I actually,
[28:42] Speaker 3: and I was reluctant to do this. I used to
[28:48] Speaker 3: be stylish then now I'm not because I dressed to
[28:54] Speaker 3: carry guns and to carry tourniquets and gauze and stuff.
[28:58] Speaker 3: So I wear cargo pants and I'm either wearing some
[29:02] Speaker 3: kind of a fleece vest or some kind of a
[29:04] Speaker 3: vest or a shirt tail that's untucked. And I used
[29:07] Speaker 3: to tuck in all the time, but I just I
[29:09] Speaker 3: changed all that. Now I understand that where I am
[29:12] Speaker 3: and what I do for work, I can do that.
[29:15] Speaker 3: Maybe you can't. Maybe you got to go a different way.
[29:19] Speaker 3: But all I'm doing is saying that you got to
[29:22] Speaker 3: think about this stuff. What could I do? How could
[29:25] Speaker 3: I accommodate that?
[29:28] Speaker 4: There are.
[29:30] Speaker 3: What do they call it hifax individual first aid kits
[29:34] Speaker 3: that kind of work like an ankle holster. You wrap
[29:38] Speaker 3: it around your ankle and with velcrow and elastic and
[29:42] Speaker 3: its traps on, and so no matter what you wear it.
[29:44] Speaker 3: If you're wearing long pants, you can have your individual
[29:49] Speaker 3: first aid kit with you everywhere you go. You're simple stuff,
[29:55] Speaker 3: tournique gauze. Maybe the gauze has hemostatic stuff on it,
[29:58] Speaker 3: like quick cloth. Maybe it does. I had an er
[30:01] Speaker 3: doc says, look at that stuff helps a little bit.
[30:04] Speaker 3: But honestly, just using the gauze works. You got a
[30:07] Speaker 3: big old length of this stuff and you start shouting
[30:10] Speaker 3: in the hole, let it start absorbing, and then of
[30:13] Speaker 3: course keep packing things on top of it if necessary.
[30:15] Speaker 3: You learn all this and you stop the bleed class.
[30:21] Speaker 3: My I guess the takeaway I'm trying to share is,
[30:27] Speaker 3: rather than get caught up in the what what did
[30:30] Speaker 3: the secret service do Why did this guy do this?
[30:32] Speaker 3: What you know? There's just all this noise going on.
[30:36] Speaker 3: There is no benefit to you trying to find the
[30:42] Speaker 3: individual benefit in all of this. What can I get
[30:45] Speaker 3: out of this still sales question of what's in it
[30:49] Speaker 3: for me? Well, what's in it for me? Is this
[30:52] Speaker 3: thing happened? I can look at it. I can say, huh,
[30:54] Speaker 3: look what just happened. I could learn something from this?
[30:59] Speaker 3: What could I learn from this? Oh? Wow, it happened
[31:01] Speaker 3: really quickly. I probably should work on my draw to
[31:05] Speaker 3: make it speedy you and to make sure that I
[31:06] Speaker 3: can always get a good, firm fire and grip on
[31:09] Speaker 3: my gun every single time. If the last time you
[31:12] Speaker 3: tried that was six months ago with the range, trust
[31:17] Speaker 3: me when I say it's gonna really be bad. When
[31:20] Speaker 3: you try, it's gonna suck. You don't have their Those
[31:24] Speaker 3: skills are still in your head, but they're not in
[31:26] Speaker 3: your hands anymore, and it will take some time to
[31:29] Speaker 3: get them back. If, on the other hand, you put
[31:33] Speaker 3: five minutes a day in and in five minutes you
[31:36] Speaker 3: can do fifty just pick a number, fifty good draws,
[31:41] Speaker 3: maybe one hundred good draws. Like I said, they don't
[31:44] Speaker 3: have to be lightning fast. You're just working on the movement.
[31:47] Speaker 3: You're working on getting your hand back to your gun,
[31:49] Speaker 3: getting your off hand to the middle of your chest,
[31:52] Speaker 3: marrying your hands up, pressing forward, picking up the side
[31:55] Speaker 3: of the dot, whichever you use, getting a good side
[31:59] Speaker 3: aligne and a good trigger, press hole that side alignment.
[32:06] Speaker 3: Then relax. You don't want to get into the habit,
[32:12] Speaker 3: because we know from experience, from looking at a lot
[32:16] Speaker 3: of law enforcement shootings, you will do in the real
[32:19] Speaker 3: world what you have practiced. You don't want to get
[32:22] Speaker 3: in the habit of fire the shot and then relax
[32:24] Speaker 3: and put the gun right back in the holster. There
[32:28] Speaker 3: being people who've been in a gunfight who shot wants
[32:29] Speaker 3: to put the gun right back in the holster and
[32:31] Speaker 3: the fight still underway, seriously, because that's all they ever
[32:36] Speaker 3: practice is draw a shoot and put the gun right
[32:38] Speaker 3: back in the holster. Get ready for the next one.
[32:40] Speaker 3: Punch the timer, get the good splits, get a good
[32:43] Speaker 3: time on that. They shoot and shove the gun right
[32:46] Speaker 3: back in the holster. What are you practicing. You're practicing
[32:49] Speaker 3: the after the shot the bad guy, I'm going to
[32:50] Speaker 3: holster my gun, no matter what's going on. No matter
[32:53] Speaker 3: if he's still in the fight or he's got somebody
[32:55] Speaker 3: still coming at me or whatever, I'm gonna holster my gun.
[32:58] Speaker 3: I don't know why. Well, I'm getting ready for the
[33:00] Speaker 3: next draw soon as I reset my timer. We call
[33:05] Speaker 3: them training scars, practicing things that will hurt you. In
[33:12] Speaker 3: the old days, in costs we're using revolvers, there were
[33:16] Speaker 3: cops that at the range, they would they would knock
[33:19] Speaker 3: the empties out of the revolver into their other hand,
[33:21] Speaker 3: put them in their pocket, saving the brass for reloading,
[33:24] Speaker 3: instead of just knocking the brass out and let it
[33:26] Speaker 3: hit the ground and then reloading. And there were cops
[33:30] Speaker 3: found after a gunfight with their pockets full of brass
[33:35] Speaker 3: because in the middle of a gunfight they're saving their
[33:37] Speaker 3: brass for reloading, because that's the only thing they've ever done.
[33:39] Speaker 3: They've always trained that way. The stuff you'll learn from
[33:45] Speaker 3: reading all these books. If you can get like it's
[33:48] Speaker 3: Reell those books on gunfighting, he's a real gunfighter. If
[33:52] Speaker 3: you can go look I you know you've heard me
[33:56] Speaker 3: say this. If you can get to one of the
[33:59] Speaker 3: top training schools, great, But a lot of times it
[34:04] Speaker 3: involves travel. It certainly involves money, and it certainly involves
[34:07] Speaker 3: an investment of time, and that's tough. But maybe you
[34:13] Speaker 3: go to a place that's local, find someplace, ask you
[34:17] Speaker 3: know what, ask around. Ask your sheriff's department, not necessarily
[34:23] Speaker 3: the police department, but ask the sheriff's department. Number one.
[34:27] Speaker 3: If they provide training, some of them do, and if
[34:30] Speaker 3: they don't, who does and who they would recommend. They're
[34:34] Speaker 3: liable to have a pretty good handle on who's doing
[34:37] Speaker 3: a good job with self defense gun training. If you're
[34:40] Speaker 3: trying to find someplace where can I go, it might
[34:43] Speaker 3: be a source to call and asks say, hey, you
[34:45] Speaker 3: know who would you guys recommend? They must tell Yeah,
[34:48] Speaker 3: John over there does that. Here's a good job with that. Okay, cool,
[34:52] Speaker 3: we'll do that. Hey, if you want to talk about this,
[34:54] Speaker 3: by all means giving me a shout eight to sixty six,
[34:56] Speaker 3: talk gun or Tom talk gun. Also looking for your
[34:58] Speaker 3: range reports. Where have you've been out shooting? I I
[35:03] Speaker 3: am still trying to figure this thing out. I'm getting
[35:05] Speaker 3: ready for my gun sight class. I'm going to take
[35:08] Speaker 3: it a couple of weeks. I'm going down for the
[35:10] Speaker 3: Jeff Cooper Memorial shoot using nineteen elevens, iron sights and
[35:14] Speaker 3: leather holsters. It's basically classic cars, if you will. And
[35:19] Speaker 3: I had a couple of my nineteen elevens I sent
[35:21] Speaker 3: to day at Fink's Gunsmithing, and that's the shop right
[35:25] Speaker 3: there at gun Sight, and they came back. They looked great,
[35:28] Speaker 3: and they you know, he did a lot of cool stuff.
[35:30] Speaker 3: But one of them my Commander. It's a lightweight commander.
[35:33] Speaker 3: It's one of the old smith and Western scandiums, and
[35:37] Speaker 3: it was Sarah Codd And I don't know if it's
[35:38] Speaker 3: a Sarah coode of what's going on. I've had several
[35:42] Speaker 3: instances of the slide not going all the way back
[35:44] Speaker 3: into bar battery, and so yesterday I gave it a
[35:48] Speaker 3: really thorough cleaning and we'll try it again tomorrow. We'll
[35:50] Speaker 3: go back and try it again because I shot it
[35:53] Speaker 3: and it was when it was blowing stuff. I was
[35:55] Speaker 3: getting brass and crud and everything, so it was dirty.
[35:59] Speaker 3: I was oil ent like crazy. But it may have
[36:01] Speaker 3: just been there's too much junk in there. If that's
[36:04] Speaker 3: not it, I'm gonna ask Dave what he recommends. And
[36:06] Speaker 3: I don't know if maybe putting some lapping compound on
[36:11] Speaker 3: the slide on the rails and just working it like crazy.
[36:15] Speaker 3: If that is a thing, I'm just gonna ask him
[36:18] Speaker 3: what he recommends and say, look right now, it's I
[36:20] Speaker 3: would not carry the gun right now because I've had several,
[36:25] Speaker 3: like half a dozen times when the slide didn't go
[36:28] Speaker 3: all the way forward. Now, the other pistol I got
[36:30] Speaker 3: from Dave, he runs like the proverbial sewing machine. It
[36:35] Speaker 3: is like glass and stone, coal, accurate and a trigger.
[36:40] Speaker 3: It's like, I'm thinking, Ooh, is that too light? No,
[36:44] Speaker 3: it's not, but I wouldn't want it any lighter. It's
[36:48] Speaker 3: really nice and it's shoot's great. And I had him
[36:50] Speaker 3: put the gold dot front side on those, and I
[36:53] Speaker 3: really like those. And then of course I've got my
[36:56] Speaker 3: cylinder and slide forty five that Bill Lawford's bit for me.
[37:00] Speaker 3: So I got a couple of full sized forty five's
[37:03] Speaker 3: I'll take down because you got to have one and
[37:04] Speaker 3: you should have a second of backup because your gun
[37:07] Speaker 3: goes down in the middle of the class. So we'll see.
[37:09] Speaker 3: I'm just tinkering with that. So I'm spending a lot
[37:11] Speaker 3: of my time and effort middle time on nineteen eleven's
[37:15] Speaker 3: right now. And yet when I went out last night,
[37:20] Speaker 3: got left the house and went out to dinner, I
[37:22] Speaker 3: put on a double stack striker fired polymer pistol columba hypocrite.
[37:27] Speaker 3: I don't care. It's just it's what I wanted to
[37:30] Speaker 3: carry at the time. It was smaller, it was lighter,
[37:32] Speaker 3: and it fit what I was wearing when I went out.
[37:37] Speaker 3: I am not married to one or the other, and
[37:39] Speaker 3: your choice is your choice. Sometimes I will carry a
[37:42] Speaker 3: nineteen eleven, if only because I like the platform, I
[37:48] Speaker 3: like the way they look, I like the way they feel,
[37:51] Speaker 3: and I completely understand the handicap that you give yourself
[37:55] Speaker 3: with less emma. Is it a real handicap? I don't know.
[37:59] Speaker 3: Could be, certainly, it could be in a certain circumstance,
[38:03] Speaker 3: and I can come up with those in my head.
[38:07] Speaker 3: Most cases, having nine or ten rounds in your gun
[38:12] Speaker 3: is probably enough. When I am carrying a single stack
[38:16] Speaker 3: nineteen eleven, I also carry two extra magazines with me,
[38:19] Speaker 3: so I have either not eight and eight or ten
[38:22] Speaker 3: and ten, depending on off it's a nine or forty
[38:24] Speaker 3: five extra, just different choices. But look, I mean, I
[38:29] Speaker 3: may grab the Rugger RXm or a six P three
[38:33] Speaker 3: sixty five or the Smith Bodyguard two point zero. What
[38:37] Speaker 3: a sweet little bitty gun that is in three eighty
[38:41] Speaker 3: just depends. And you know I'm an equal opportunity pistol
[38:45] Speaker 3: carrier and I will do all of that. How do
[38:48] Speaker 3: you decide what you're going to carry? Or do you
[38:50] Speaker 3: are you smarter than me? Do you carry just one
[38:53] Speaker 3: gun all the time? That would probably be the wiest
[38:55] Speaker 3: thing to do. Number here is eight sixty six Talk
[38:58] Speaker 3: gun or time talk gun. We're talking about the takeaways.
[39:00] Speaker 3: What did you learn? What can you learn from watching this?
[39:03] Speaker 3: Where I call it like a training video. Man, it
[39:06] Speaker 3: happened so fast, all right. This story is just breaking
[39:17] Speaker 3: right now. No, not the one out of Washington, DC
[39:19] Speaker 3: from last night. This happened right now in Nashville, Tennessee.
[39:23] Speaker 3: A DoorDash driver shot and killed a suspect who shot
[39:28] Speaker 3: and injured him during an attempted carjacking. This was the
[39:34] Speaker 3: DoorDash driver pulled into the parking lot at Walgreens, walked
[39:38] Speaker 3: over to the Chick fil A to pick up the
[39:39] Speaker 3: order he's going to be delivering. As he's walking back,
[39:42] Speaker 3: this guy goes up to him with a gun he's
[39:46] Speaker 3: going to carjacking. I guess they get in the car
[39:49] Speaker 3: and then the DoorDash driver pulls his gun. So the
[39:54] Speaker 3: carjacker shoots the door Dash driver in the leg, and
[39:57] Speaker 3: the door Dash driver shoots the carjacker in a more
[40:02] Speaker 3: appropriate place and kills him. DRT. They're taking the DoorDash
[40:08] Speaker 3: driver to the hospital. They say they think he will
[40:10] Speaker 3: be okay. Yeah, it happens so fast. Probably door Dash
[40:20] Speaker 3: who will fire this driver that ranks in the I
[40:26] Speaker 3: don't care category as far as that guy's concerned. Now,
[40:29] Speaker 3: does it bother me that they have a policy that
[40:31] Speaker 3: they can't carry yet? It's stupid. What would be more
[40:35] Speaker 3: stupid is if you worked as a DoorDash driver and
[40:38] Speaker 3: you paid any attention to that policy. You're carrying money around,
[40:43] Speaker 3: you're carrying cash. You're a target. People get carjacked, they
[40:49] Speaker 3: get robbed at gunpoint, and obviously these carjackers are willing
[40:55] Speaker 3: to shoot you. Well, you could say, well, I could
[41:01] Speaker 3: have just let him take the car. Yeah, that's true.
[41:05] Speaker 3: On this given day, he decided not to. He decided, nope,
[41:09] Speaker 3: I am not going to be a victim today, and
[41:11] Speaker 3: I don't have to because I can't prepared for exactly this.
[41:16] Speaker 3: That wouldn't even surprise me if wasn't this DoorDash driver's
[41:20] Speaker 3: first time of being robbed. So if you are a
[41:23] Speaker 3: pizza delivery person or doordass driver or whatever, you got
[41:28] Speaker 3: to provide your own protection. Oh gee, that would be
[41:31] Speaker 3: for all of us, wouldn't it, Because we are our
[41:33] Speaker 3: own first responders and there's nobody else who is dedicated
[41:38] Speaker 3: to committed to are required to protect us. Yeah, in
[41:44] Speaker 3: case you weren't aware, the courts have ruled numerous times
[41:47] Speaker 3: that the police have no legal duty to protect anyone. Yeah. Really,
[41:57] Speaker 3: they sit there and watch you get raped or murdered.
[42:00] Speaker 3: I can't assume them because they didn't protect you because
[42:02] Speaker 3: they're not required to. He gotta love it. The court says, yes,
[42:07] Speaker 3: they have a legal duty to protect everyone, but they
[42:10] Speaker 3: don't have a legal duty to protect anyone individual. I
[42:16] Speaker 3: don't know. So there you go. Coming up, we had
[42:20] Speaker 3: a lot of fun stuff coming up. We're gonna be
[42:22] Speaker 3: talking about cool clay target thing from Clay. What do
[42:26] Speaker 3: they call it, the clay copter, That's what they call
[42:30] Speaker 3: it from Caldwell. It's like a hoarybird, kind of a
[42:33] Speaker 3: crazy target for wingshooting or were also going to have
[42:35] Speaker 3: her Meat dellon coming up. She's the Assistant US Attorney
[42:38] Speaker 3: General in charge of Civil Rights Division, which is also
[42:41] Speaker 3: Second Amendment, but the fine part of that. Do you
[42:44] Speaker 3: remember when she posted pictures online of her shooting and
[42:48] Speaker 3: people were making fun of her groups they weren't very good.
[42:51] Speaker 3: She took a lot of heat over that. She said, yeah,
[42:54] Speaker 3: you know my Marshall Service protected. People said, you know,
[42:59] Speaker 3: we're just a the street from an FBI shooting range.
[43:03] Speaker 3: She says, so that's where I shoot. Now I shoot
[43:06] Speaker 3: with the FBI. I'm thinking, yeah, that's going to work.
[43:09] Speaker 3: She's got her glocks that she likes, so yeah, Harmie Dillon,
[43:13] Speaker 3: she's the real deal. That's kind of that goes well,
[43:14] Speaker 3: and then we're going to get an update on what's
[43:16] Speaker 3: going on in Virginia. It's a freaking mess. It is
[43:20] Speaker 3: one of those elections have consequences lessons. We'll have an
[43:24] Speaker 3: update from Cam Edwards on that. Why don't you be
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