# Broadway Stars Attempt Their Best Australian Accents With Joel (Results Vary)

An episode of [The Joel Creasey Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1892211318), 11 Sep 2026, 13 min.

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The marvellous, Tony-nominated Marla Mindelle is living her Broadway dream, creating and starring in Titanique as the one and only Celine Dion. Her co-creator Constantine Rousouli (gay Kevin Bacon) also drops in and the pair immediately start doing Australian accents, which are… well, you’ll have to listen. Joel and Marla bond over seeing Celine Dion live and the random celebrity she does 20 minutes of stand-up about. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: It's now time to welcome.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Hi.
[0:05] Speaker 1: The people's prince.
[0:07] Speaker 2: Part-time parent of a Tamagotchi. Boom! He's had four black
[0:12] Speaker 2: coffees and half an olive, so he's primed and ready
[0:15] Speaker 2: to go.
[0:15] Speaker 1: I'm a working show gal.
[0:17] Speaker 4: Get ready.
[0:18] Speaker 1: Yes!
[0:19] Speaker 5: It's Joel Creasy.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Joel Creasy!
[0:22] Speaker 5: With The Joel Creasy Show!
[0:28] Speaker 6: Well, this is a bit exciting. Welcome to the Joel
[0:30] Speaker 6: Creasy Show. Every day around here is special. We like
[0:33] Speaker 6: to really, you know, cap the week off with a bang.
[0:37] Speaker 6: And coming up today, we will be crossing, it doesn't
[0:40] Speaker 6: get much more showbiz than this, to backstage on Broadway,
[0:44] Speaker 6: New York. I'm going to be chatting to my mate,
[0:47] Speaker 6: the Tony-nominated and Olivier Award-winning star of stage, Marla Mindell. Now,
[0:54] Speaker 6: she is the co-creator of one of my absolute favourite musicals, Titanic,
[0:58] Speaker 6: which is a complete piss take of Titanic. She plays
[1:02] Speaker 6: Celine Dion alongside Jim Parsons and Frankie Grande. It is
[1:06] Speaker 6: a massive show, and she's going to be dialing in
[1:09] Speaker 6: just before she takes to the stage on Broadway in
[1:13] Speaker 6: front of thousands of people.
[1:15] Speaker 5: This is The Joel Creasy Show.
[1:17] Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I get to say this.
[1:19] Speaker 6: Beaming in from Broadway, the star of Titanic, Tony Award nominee,
[1:25] Speaker 6: about to take to the stage on Broadway, Marla Mandel.
[1:29] Speaker 2: Hello, gorgeous.
[1:30] Speaker 4: Hello. How are you?
[1:32] Speaker 2: Oh, I'm bloody ripper.
[1:33] Speaker 4: It's been so long.
[1:35] Speaker 2: That's better than Meryl Streep. That's good.
[1:37] Speaker 4: That's true.
[1:38] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:38] Speaker 1: That's true.
[1:39] Speaker 2: How are you?
[1:40] Speaker 6: How is life being like a leading lady on Broadway
[1:42] Speaker 6: in one of the biggest shows?
[1:44] Speaker 4: Oh, my God. It's incredible. It's exhausting.
[1:47] Speaker 3: It's everything that you could ever think and dream. I
[1:50] Speaker 3: feel so grateful to be here.
[1:52] Speaker 4: And to be doing HO's a week, and yet at
[1:54] Speaker 4: the same time, I am too old for this. I
[1:56] Speaker 4: don't know how people do this. I'm going to Europe
[2:00] Speaker 4: the second this show ends for two weeks.
[2:02] Speaker 1: Oh, is it?
[2:03] Speaker 4: Connie, come in here. Come say hi to Joel Creasy.
[2:05] Speaker 4: This is the co-creator of Titanic.
[2:07] Speaker 3: Oh, hi. Oh, hi.
[2:08] Speaker 2: This is Connie Rassouli. Hello. It's your co-star on stage, Constantine, a.k.a.
[2:13] Speaker 2: Jack from Titanic. Welcome to the show, unannounced. Oh, hello.
[2:18] Speaker 2: Where are you from? I'm from Melbourne. I'm from the
[2:21] Speaker 2: home of Kath and Kim.
[2:22] Speaker 1: Oh, I love Kath and Kim.
[2:24] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:25] Speaker 1: It's so nice to meet you.
[2:26] Speaker 6: Congratulations, by the way, on Titanic being off, off, now,
[2:31] Speaker 6: then off, now, proper.
[2:33] Speaker 1: Legit Broadway. I know, finally. It only took 10 years.
[2:37] Speaker 1: But I'm still 27.
[2:39] Speaker 2: How does that happen?
[2:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, it took 10 years. It took so long that
[2:42] Speaker 3: we started dressing like each other.
[2:44] Speaker 1: I look like a little lesbian.
[2:49] Speaker 6: How did you, like your Jag, your Celine, how did you,
[2:52] Speaker 6: how did you first meet?
[2:55] Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say we were mortal enemies in New York,
[2:58] Speaker 3: but we were not friends. We both did Broadway shows
[3:01] Speaker 3: in our 20s, and then we both moved to L.A.
[3:03] Speaker 4: Because we were like, f * * * Broadway.
[3:04] Speaker 1: We're better than this.
[3:05] Speaker 4: We want to do bigger and better things.
[3:07] Speaker 2: We're going to be stars.
[3:08] Speaker 4: Lost everything in L.A.
[3:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. I worked at Lisa Vanderpump's restaurant, which I wanted
[3:13] Speaker 1: to f * * * ing kill myself.
[3:14] Speaker 2: Which one? Which one?
[3:16] Speaker 1: I worked at... I opened Pump. I was like her
[3:18] Speaker 1: right-hand man. It was crazy.
[3:20] Speaker 2: Pump is the worst. I have eaten there every time
[3:23] Speaker 2: I go to LA. She's always there.
[3:25] Speaker 1: It's gone. It's gone. She's always there, sitting in the middle. Yeah,
[3:28] Speaker 1: it was crazy.
[3:29] Speaker 2: You worked at Pump? Oh my.
[3:32] Speaker 6: I think I went to the opening of Pump with
[3:34] Speaker 6: my ex, so I reckon you would have been there.
[3:36] Speaker 1: Well, I was there.
[3:37] Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
[3:37] Speaker 1: I was there making... Swigging drinks.
[3:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, he really was.
[3:42] Speaker 3: And I was a personal assistant to a man who
[3:44] Speaker 3: had compulsively like face scratching disorder. He would compulsively scratch
[3:48] Speaker 3: his face. Anyway, we wound up working in a dinner theater.
[3:51] Speaker 6: And here we are.
[3:51] Speaker 4: And here we are.
[3:52] Speaker 3: We met like formally doing dinner theater in Los Angeles
[3:55] Speaker 3: with Broken Dreams and then created Titanic.
[3:57] Speaker 6: When you say dinner theater, you're serving food and singing
[4:00] Speaker 6: at the same time?
[4:01] Speaker 1: No, but Marla's done that in every iteration that she
[4:04] Speaker 1: could possibly do.
[4:05] Speaker 4: That is true.
[4:06] Speaker 6: She always works at a singing establishment, which is funny
[4:09] Speaker 6: because she wants to kill herself when she sings.
[4:10] Speaker 1: So I'm like, why would you do this to yourself?
[4:12] Speaker 1: You're sick.
[4:13] Speaker 4: It's my only skill.
[4:14] Speaker 6: Yeah, I forced you at like parties to try and
[4:17] Speaker 6: sing and you're one that actually, you're hard to break.
[4:19] Speaker 2: You just don't do it.
[4:20] Speaker 1: Joel, it's so nice to meet you.
[4:21] Speaker 2: So lovely to meet you. Congratulations.
[4:23] Speaker 6: I watch all, like, the stuff. I, like, comment as
[4:25] Speaker 6: well on, like, the official Titanic account.
[4:27] Speaker 2: Like, slay. I know.
[4:30] Speaker 1: We're so gross. But, hey, we love you.
[4:32] Speaker 6: Thanks.
[4:32] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[4:32] Speaker 2: No, thank you.
[4:33] Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you soon, I hope.
[4:35] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[4:35] Speaker 1: I'm going to go eat this chicken.
[4:37] Speaker 4: Chicken. It smells like chicken in here.
[4:38] Speaker 3: Yep.
[4:38] Speaker 2: God, it's glamorous.
[4:40] Speaker 1: All right.
[4:40] Speaker 2: Bye.
[4:41] Speaker 1: Bye.
[4:42] Speaker 5: The Joel Gracie Show.
[4:44] Speaker 2: So, Titanic.
[4:45] Speaker 6: Describe it for people that don't know.
[4:47] Speaker 3: So basically, Celine Dion believed she was on the Titanic
[4:50] Speaker 3: with Jack and Rose, and she uses her eyes and
[4:52] Speaker 3: her songs to narrate the story.
[4:54] Speaker 4: So she's basically like, I was on the ship, girlfriend.
[4:56] Speaker 3: And everyone's like, no, Celine Dion, you're just saying the
[4:59] Speaker 3: theme song to the movie.
[5:00] Speaker 4: You weren't actually on the Titanic. And she's like, no, no, no,
[5:02] Speaker 4: go with me.
[5:02] Speaker 1: I know the story.
[5:04] Speaker 4: And that's how it starts.
[5:06] Speaker 3: It's basically like a wild conspiracy theory. And because Celine
[5:09] Speaker 3: Dion is so joyous and kooky crazy and of her
[5:13] Speaker 3: own world almost, she seems like she lives on her
[5:17] Speaker 3: own beautiful planet and we're just all blessed to be
[5:20] Speaker 3: in her presence.
[5:21] Speaker 4: You just kind of go with her.
[5:22] Speaker 3: So it is wildly tangential. It is a roller coaster.
[5:27] Speaker 3: It is really nothing like the Titanic at all.
[5:29] Speaker 4: It's just Celine Dion's interpretation. And it's using all of
[5:32] Speaker 4: her fierce songs. So it's like, It's the best thing
[5:35] Speaker 4: that you'll ever see in the funniest book on Broadway.
[5:37] Speaker 4: Let me tell you.
[5:38] Speaker 2: No, it genuinely is. Even my mid-70s parents saw it
[5:40] Speaker 2: in the West End the other night. They loved it.
[5:43] Speaker 2: And then I said, oh, my friend wrote it. She
[5:45] Speaker 2: plays Celine. And mom was like, well, the.
[5:48] Speaker 6: Girl we saw, she is Celine. She looks like that
[5:52] Speaker 6: can't be possible because the girl we saw.
[5:53] Speaker 1: She does.
[5:54] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know she does. But I was like, yeah,
[5:55] Speaker 2: but Marla does too, mom. And she wrote it. And
[5:57] Speaker 2: mom's like, oh, well, I'll have to wait and see.
[5:59] Speaker 2: My mom, she wrote it. She wrote it. Never wrong,
[6:03] Speaker 2: that woman.
[6:03] Speaker 4: I know, but, you know, everyone has their own favorite alphabet.
[6:06] Speaker 4: Everyone has their own. I mean, the good news is
[6:08] Speaker 4: that we have so many Celine's in so many countries.
[6:10] Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of, it has its own kind.
[6:12] Speaker 3: Of Hamilton-like trajectory where it's all over the world that
[6:15] Speaker 3: you can just kind of pick and choose your own
[6:17] Speaker 3: favorite Celine.
[6:17] Speaker 4: You know, everyone thought it was so small and so
[6:19] Speaker 4: campy and so niche. And finally.
[6:22] Speaker 1: It is and it isn't.
[6:23] Speaker 4: It is and it... Exactly. It is and it isn't.
[6:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:26] Speaker 4: It's based off of.
[6:27] Speaker 3: Two incredible pre-existing IPs that everyone knows, which is Celine
[6:32] Speaker 3: Dion and Titanic. But at the same time, it has
[6:34] Speaker 3: this campy kind of irreverent queer spin because we wrote it.
[6:38] Speaker 3: The point is, a stroke of good luck happened last
[6:40] Speaker 3: year where we were able to come to the St.
[6:42] Speaker 3: James for a limited amount of time and we took it.
[6:45] Speaker 3: And I feel like it's just been the most wonderful
[6:49] Speaker 3: icing on this 10-year cake to finally be here on Broadway,
[6:53] Speaker 3: you know, having audiences who haven't seen it which is
[6:57] Speaker 3: crazy to me, but there are so many people who
[6:58] Speaker 3: haven't seen it and just come and laugh with us
[7:00] Speaker 3: for this limited run. I just feel like this has
[7:03] Speaker 3: been the best victory lap and the best gift for
[7:05] Speaker 3: the show after, you know, struggling to push it up
[7:08] Speaker 3: this hill for so long.
[7:13] Speaker 6: And I'm here with star and co-creator of one of
[7:15] Speaker 6: my favourite musicals, which is taking Broadway by storm right now, Titanic,
[7:20] Speaker 6: which is a story of Celine Dion as if she
[7:23] Speaker 6: were on the Titanic and told the story through her eyes, essentially.
[7:27] Speaker 6: I've got to ask, has Celine actually seen it?
[7:30] Speaker 3: She has not seen it because she's a very busy
[7:33] Speaker 3: international diva and her concert is coming out soon. But
[7:37] Speaker 3: her sister Claudette, one of her sisters saw it in Montreal.
[7:41] Speaker 4: Yeah. And she just loved it.
[7:42] Speaker 3: And every single person in Celine's camp, her backup dancers,
[7:45] Speaker 3: her makeup artists, her physician from Canada. I mean, anyone
[7:48] Speaker 3: that's her music lawyers, people who have written her songs, they.
[7:52] Speaker 4: Have all come and they just say the same thing,
[7:54] Speaker 4: that she would love it. And that makes me so
[7:56] Speaker 4: happy because... Really, it's just a love letter to Celine Dion.
[8:01] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:02] Speaker 6: When I saw her in Melbourne, like five, six years ago,
[8:06] Speaker 6: she did like a 20 minute stand up set about
[8:09] Speaker 6: how hot she finds Ryan Reynolds.
[8:12] Speaker 2: And then she loves Ryan Reynolds.
[8:15] Speaker 4: Loves Ryan Reynolds.
[8:16] Speaker 2: And then she forgot the lyrics to My Heart Will
[8:18] Speaker 2: Go On.
[8:20] Speaker 4: Oh, great.
[8:21] Speaker 2: And I was like, this is what I'm paying for.
[8:23] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[8:24] Speaker 4: I mean, I saw her.
[8:25] Speaker 3: In Vegas and I was in the last row, like
[8:28] Speaker 3: nosebleed seats. This was 10 years ago and it's the
[8:30] Speaker 3: best singing I've ever heard in my life. And this
[8:31] Speaker 3: was before the idea of Titanic even started.
[8:34] Speaker 4: But you're right. It was a 20. I think that
[8:36] Speaker 4: was Ryan Reynolds stand.
[8:37] Speaker 2: Up in my Vegas set as well.
[8:39] Speaker 1: It's a goal.
[8:39] Speaker 2: It's a tight 20.
[8:40] Speaker 1: It's like universal. Yeah.
[8:41] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:42] Speaker 1: Tried and true.
[8:42] Speaker 4: She knows it's going to work.
[8:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:44] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:46] Speaker 6: And then you're like a Tony Award nominee for this role.
[8:50] Speaker 6: And then your banter with Pink.
[8:52] Speaker 2: So funny. Like Pink. I feel like Pink gets it.
[8:54] Speaker 4: Pink totally gets it. And she was like such a dream.
[8:57] Speaker 4: So chill.
[8:58] Speaker 3: I could not believe. I didn't realize that Tony's like
[9:01] Speaker 3: what they make you do. You do everything the day of.
[9:04] Speaker 3: You tech it the day of.
[9:05] Speaker 2: The day of?
[9:06] Speaker 4: The day. Like you have a couple of rehearsals, but
[9:08] Speaker 4: like you just have one chance to do it. And
[9:10] Speaker 4: then boom, it's live. So we had a couple of rehearsals.
[9:14] Speaker 3: But I mean, like it was crazy. So the fact
[9:16] Speaker 3: that Pink was like so calm.
[9:18] Speaker 4: So chill. Her voice is so sick.
[9:21] Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. I just became like an instant
[9:23] Speaker 3: Pink fan again. Like a resurgent Pink fan.
[9:25] Speaker 2: Because you know she's huge here in Australia.
[9:27] Speaker 6: Like, her biggest market is Australia.
[9:30] Speaker 2: We love Pink.
[9:31] Speaker 1: Really?
[9:31] Speaker 2: Yes.
[9:33] Speaker 4: I mean, yeah.
[9:34] Speaker 3: But you guys have, your voice is the best. The
[9:36] Speaker 3: voice in Australia is the best of all the voices.
[9:38] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
[9:40] Speaker 4: The singers from The Voice in Australia.
[9:43] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:44] Speaker 1: Really?
[9:44] Speaker 4: Oh, I've seen.
[9:45] Speaker 5: Oh.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[9:46] Speaker 4: So that doesn't surprise me. They just, you guys love
[9:48] Speaker 4: great singers.
[9:49] Speaker 5: Oh. This is The Joel Creasy Show.
[9:52] Speaker 6: Marla, it's so cool to say you're my mate, but
[9:54] Speaker 6: you're backstage right now about to go on stage in
[9:58] Speaker 6: a Broadway show because it's... nearly showtime.
[10:01] Speaker 4: So I'm actually in my prep right now and then
[10:02] Speaker 4: they'll put my wig on.
[10:04] Speaker 3: I know.
[10:04] Speaker 4: We have 15 minutes until half hour. So I usually
[10:07] Speaker 4: get here. I'm like old school. Like I get here.
[10:10] Speaker 1: Not old school.
[10:10] Speaker 3: I'm just like so regimented. I get here 90 minutes before.
[10:13] Speaker 3: I got to do my warm up.
[10:15] Speaker 4: I got to put my makeup on. I'm watching Bravo
[10:17] Speaker 4: as that's happening. That's like my new routine.
[10:19] Speaker 2: I know you love Bravo.
[10:19] Speaker 3: So I'm currently watching Next. I love Bravo. So I'm
[10:22] Speaker 3: currently watching Next Gen. which is like an offshoot of
[10:24] Speaker 3: an offshoot. It's like the show that you watch when
[10:27] Speaker 3: you've run out of all the other Bravo shows to watch.
[10:29] Speaker 3: You're like, well, I guess I'll just watch Next Gen NYC.
[10:32] Speaker 3: So put on my makeup, warm up, and then I
[10:34] Speaker 3: think about, there's an improv section in our show.
[10:37] Speaker 4: For those people who have not seen it, which I
[10:39] Speaker 4: know is wild. How does Titanic have an improv section?
[10:41] Speaker 4: That sounds absolutely crazy. But it is one of the
[10:45] Speaker 4: things that makes the show so exciting.
[10:46] Speaker 3: So I think about what I can do in my
[10:49] Speaker 3: improv section for the night. Which is, it's very, very
[10:54] Speaker 3: taxing to come up with something new eight times a week,
[10:55] Speaker 3: let me tell you.
[10:57] Speaker 6: Yeah, I was thinking, do all the Celine's around the
[10:59] Speaker 6: world do it like brand new every night?
[11:02] Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
[11:03] Speaker 4: I have written like 10 for them to rotate from.
[11:05] Speaker 4: Some of them just come up with one and they
[11:07] Speaker 4: just do their one. And I'm actually happy about that.
[11:10] Speaker 4: I'm fine about that. I don't want to give somebody
[11:12] Speaker 4: the pressure to.
[11:13] Speaker 3: Have to come up with like, it's like live comedy.
[11:15] Speaker 3: Like sometimes, you know what it's like. It's like sometimes
[11:18] Speaker 3: it's gangbusters and sometimes you fall flat on your face.
[11:21] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[11:22] Speaker 3: But. The good news is, for me, is that's the
[11:25] Speaker 3: only time of the show that I'm kind to myself.
[11:27] Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, you know what? If it didn't land,
[11:29] Speaker 4: I always have tomorrow.
[11:30] Speaker 2: Yes.
[11:30] Speaker 4: Whereas if I crack or if I'm flat on a note,
[11:32] Speaker 4: I'm like, well, it's time to jump off a bridge.
[11:34] Speaker 2: And bury myself alive. I know the pressure. Well, yeah,
[11:37] Speaker 2: I worked with Countess Luan earlier this year. She was here.
[11:40] Speaker 6: And I was hosting her in Sydney. And we were
[11:42] Speaker 6: sharing a dressing room. And this is where I went, oh,
[11:44] Speaker 6: you're in on the joke.
[11:45] Speaker 1: You get it.
[11:46] Speaker 6: Because I said to her, hey, do you want me
[11:47] Speaker 6: to leave so you can warm up?
[11:49] Speaker 2: And she just looked at me and just went, please.
[11:52] Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, you get it. You totally
[11:55] Speaker 2: get it.
[11:55] Speaker 6: You know it's just a joke and you're just having
[11:58] Speaker 6: a good time.
[11:59] Speaker 4: Well, and also, like, what do you think a warm-up
[12:01] Speaker 4: is for her? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[12:05] Speaker 2: Well, hey, you've got a show to do. I'm going
[12:08] Speaker 2: to let you go. When are you going to come
[12:09] Speaker 2: back to Australia?
[12:11] Speaker 4: You know, well, if Titanic goes back to Australia, I'm coming.
[12:15] Speaker 4: I couldn't go last time to Sydney, but I'm dying
[12:17] Speaker 4: to go back.
[12:18] Speaker 2: Please, because I want to play Ruth. Because I might
[12:19] Speaker 2: not have, like, some money. I really want to play Ruth.
[12:21] Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I literally pitched you to them and
[12:25] Speaker 3: I was like, there's this guy. He's a very famous
[12:27] Speaker 3: comedian in Australia and he's got a radio show. But
[12:30] Speaker 3: apparently they want to take it to Melbourne. I don't know.
[12:32] Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to happen with it.
[12:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:34] Speaker 3: But I would absolutely come back.
[12:37] Speaker 4: And when I'm there, then I'm going to go to
[12:39] Speaker 4: South Korea and get a new face.
[12:41] Speaker 1: Like I'm going to do all of Southeast. Yeah.
[12:44] Speaker 4: Melbourne's just a starting point but I gotta get a
[12:46] Speaker 4: new face so I'm gonna go to Korea.
[12:47] Speaker 6: Yeah and start your K-pop career thank you so much
[12:49] Speaker 6: girlfriend thank.
[12:51] Speaker 4: You girlfriend it's so good to see you girlfriend I'll see.
[12:53] Speaker 2: You soon okay.
[12:56] Speaker 6: You are the best I'm genuinely so stoked for you
[12:59] Speaker 6: you are so talented you're so nice as well And yeah,
[13:03] Speaker 6: you're just the best.
[13:04] Speaker 2: Enjoy. Enjoy every moment. I'm like living vicariously through you.
[13:09] Speaker 1: Likewise. Likewise.
[13:10] Speaker 6: This is my full chat with Marla Mandel on the
[13:12] Speaker 6: Joel Creasy Show podcast.
[13:14] Speaker 2: I'll be back on Monday. Gear change with Angus and
[13:16] Speaker 2: Julia Stone.
[13:19] Speaker 5: The Joel Creasy Show is done. But Joel's got plenty
[13:23] Speaker 5: more to say. Find more exclusive content on the Nova
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