# A Radio Exclusive: What To Expect From 'The Castle' On The Stage!

An episode of [The Joel Creasey Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1892211318), 20 Oct 2026, 15 min.

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In a radio exclusive, a fellow Joel from WA is joining our very own today, as we delve into what we can all expect from ‘The Castle’ but this time, on the stage. Joel Jackson is joining the cast as Wayne Kerrigan and Joel (Creasey, that is) quizzed him on his first time watching the iconic 1997 Aussie film with his fam. Plus, it’s an all star WA show today, with Nova 93.7’s very own, Nat Locke in the studio, as she and Joel break down the latest in celeb news. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: It's now time to welcome the people's prince.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Part-time professional third wheel. Here we go.
[0:11] Speaker 3: From Broadway to West End, TV presenter to actor, he'll
[0:15] Speaker 3: go to the opening of a door.
[0:18] Speaker 4: Joe Creasy, desperation.
[0:21] Speaker 2: Get ready. Yes!
[0:23] Speaker 3: It's Joe Creasy. Joe Creasy! With the Joe Creasy Show.
[0:32] Speaker 4: Happy Tuesday. It is the 20th of October. Hard day
[0:35] Speaker 4: to celebrate a birthday on a Tuesday. That was me
[0:37] Speaker 4: this year. But it is Vice President Kamala Harris' birthday today.
[0:41] Speaker 4: She's turning 62. And Snoop Dogg turning 55. And we
[0:45] Speaker 4: just discovered his full name is Calvin Cordoza Broadus Jr.
[0:49] Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Calvin. Coming up today, as I said yesterday,
[0:52] Speaker 4: I was lucky to meet the cast of The Castle.
[0:54] Speaker 4: The iconic 1997 film has been rewritten as a stage play.
[0:59] Speaker 4: And I spoke to one of the actors, Joel Jackson.
[1:02] Speaker 4: The Kerrigans are one of Australia's most beloved family, them
[1:05] Speaker 4: and the Day Knights. And Joel is playing Wayne, the
[1:09] Speaker 4: eldest brother. And I cannot wait to see the show
[1:11] Speaker 4: come to life on stage next year. It is going
[1:13] Speaker 4: to be epic if you can get a ticket.
[1:15] Speaker 3: This is The Joel Creasy Show.
[1:18] Speaker 4: And yesterday, the actors bringing to life the stage adaptation
[1:21] Speaker 4: for The Castle were announced. I got to see it
[1:24] Speaker 4: all and chat to Joel Jackson, who will be playing
[1:27] Speaker 4: the eldest brother, Wayne. Kerrigan. I went and did this
[1:31] Speaker 4: chat ahead of the big announcement yesterday morning. So let's
[1:34] Speaker 4: jump into that now. Joel Jackson, this is very exciting.
[1:38] Speaker 4: The castle launching on stage.
[1:40] Speaker 2: It's just the best. It is so unique. And it's
[1:42] Speaker 2: also just so exciting to finally be able to share
[1:45] Speaker 2: our involvement in it. It's just so exciting, man. Yeah,
[1:48] Speaker 2: it's wonderful.
[1:49] Speaker 4: Are you from Albany?
[1:50] Speaker 2: I'm from Albany, yeah, yeah.
[1:51] Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay, we're both Joel's from Perth. Yeah, yeah.
[1:53] Speaker 2: WA. WA boys, yeah. Yeah. Which is the best. So
[1:55] Speaker 2: Albany born, Karratha raised. I know I'm going to get
[1:58] Speaker 2: a lot of, like, I'll get. Karratha. I'll get hate
[2:01] Speaker 2: if I don't say I'm from Karratha as well.
[2:03] Speaker 1: Really?
[2:03] Speaker 2: Which I love. Yeah, yeah.
[2:05] Speaker 4: So Karratha raised. Wow, that's really.
[2:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two opposite poles.
[2:08] Speaker 4: A long way away.
[2:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful wall pole and all the gentle giants of
[2:12] Speaker 2: the treetops to like. absolute desert, middle of nowhere, where
[2:15] Speaker 2: Red Dog was made.
[2:16] Speaker 4: Oh, of course.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was my first day on a film set,
[2:19] Speaker 2: was an extra on Red Dog.
[2:21] Speaker 4: Really?
[2:22] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:23] Speaker 4: And what was the dog like? Piece of work?
[2:24] Speaker 2: Piece of work, yeah. Yeah, did a tonne of stunts,
[2:26] Speaker 2: just went straight to its trailer, it was really frustrating. Yeah,
[2:29] Speaker 2: not enough kibble.
[2:30] Speaker 4: Do you remember seeing the cast for the first time?
[2:31] Speaker 4: Because it came out in 1997.
[2:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was around, no, yeah.
[2:35] Speaker 4: Same year as Titanic came out.
[2:36] Speaker 2: Really?
[2:36] Speaker 4: Very similar films.
[2:37] Speaker 2: Are you serious?
[2:38] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:38] Speaker 2: I've never seen Titanic start to finish. I'm waiting for
[2:42] Speaker 2: the right time.
[2:43] Speaker 4: What does that mean?
[2:44] Speaker 2: I don't know. I've kind of seen it up to
[2:46] Speaker 2: a point and then gone, yeah, okay. Spoiler alert, it
[2:49] Speaker 2: goes down. Because I was too obsessed with the casting.
[2:50] Speaker 2: It breaks, you know.
[2:51] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:52] Speaker 4: But this is a good story.
[2:53] Speaker 2: Now, I remember, I can't remember watching it for the
[2:55] Speaker 2: very first time, but I remember seeing it, I remember
[2:57] Speaker 2: vividly being at my nan and pop's house in Albany,
[3:00] Speaker 2: like the big fuzzy carpets of the 80s and kind
[3:03] Speaker 2: of stuff and all that really old decor that was
[3:05] Speaker 2: mirrored in the film and being rugged up in your
[3:09] Speaker 2: dressing gown and just watching them have the best time
[3:12] Speaker 2: and slowly coming to understand it and growing into it
[3:15] Speaker 2: and understanding that feeling of family, like fighting for your castle,
[3:19] Speaker 2: like doing whatever it takes to stand up for family
[3:22] Speaker 2: and standing up for a stranger in your community, like
[3:24] Speaker 2: taking care of your street. So yeah, yeah. It's beautiful.
[3:27] Speaker 4: I love that you're a Joel from WA. And I'm
[3:29] Speaker 4: a Nan and Pop person too. I always said Nan
[3:31] Speaker 4: and Pop also.
[3:32] Speaker 2: Nan and Pop. Granny and Grandad. Mum and Dad have
[3:35] Speaker 2: done a split. Nanny and Grandpa. But that's okay. We'll
[3:38] Speaker 2: toe the line.
[3:39] Speaker 4: My dad wanted to be Nonna when he had his
[3:42] Speaker 4: first grandchild. I was like, Dad, that's female Italian. Grandma,
[3:46] Speaker 4: like you can't... He's special.
[3:50] Speaker 2: My future mother-in-law wants to be Queenie and I've just
[3:53] Speaker 2: put a real thumbtack in that and I'm just going
[3:55] Speaker 2: to put it in a very dark place and never
[3:57] Speaker 2: let her be Queenie.
[3:58] Speaker 4: That's what people heckle at me out of cast.
[4:00] Speaker 2: Really?
[4:00] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the better ones. So you're playing
[4:04] Speaker 4: Wayne Kerrigan.
[4:05] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:07] Speaker 4: What a... Explain to me the role, or explain to
[4:09] Speaker 4: everyone the role that, you know, horrified if people don't
[4:12] Speaker 4: know the cast.
[4:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[4:14] Speaker 2: Wayne, I think, is one of those characters where when
[4:16] Speaker 2: you're watching the film, you may have just gone, oh,
[4:18] Speaker 2: I like that line, but you've kind of forgotten him
[4:20] Speaker 2: in the mainstream of things. But he grounds everything in
[4:23] Speaker 2: such a beautiful way because he has made mistakes. But
[4:26] Speaker 2: despite all of that, the family loves him unconditionally. There
[4:29] Speaker 2: is this kind of tie in that I think is
[4:31] Speaker 2: so true to the quintessential Australian family where like love,
[4:34] Speaker 2: forgiveness and taking care of each other, no matter what
[4:37] Speaker 2: really ties in. But he grounds it in the sense
[4:40] Speaker 2: of like, you've just got to keep moving forward. And
[4:43] Speaker 2: all he's looking forward to is getting out And then
[4:45] Speaker 2: as soon as he does, he makes good of life.
[4:48] Speaker 2: And he's got some of the best lines and so simple.
[4:50] Speaker 2: He's got three scenes in the entire thing, which I love.
[4:53] Speaker 2: I won't be doing.
[4:54] Speaker 4: Just three scenes.
[4:54] Speaker 2: We'll be doing a little bit more on stage, but
[4:56] Speaker 2: I can't tell you too much. But it's a really
[4:59] Speaker 2: beautiful character to be able to do, especially following in
[5:01] Speaker 2: the footsteps of someone like Wayne Hogue.
[5:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, legend.
[5:05] Speaker 2: Like legend, absolute legend. So I think I'll be, yeah,
[5:10] Speaker 2: making sure I do a pretty good job opening night
[5:12] Speaker 2: if he comes backstage. Yeah.
[5:14] Speaker 3: The Joel Creasy Show.
[5:16] Speaker 4: I heard you say I'm jealous for what audiences get
[5:17] Speaker 4: to experience.
[5:18] Speaker 2: Yeah. Tell me.
[5:20] Speaker 4: I'll be the audience.
[5:22] Speaker 2: Hopefully. I'll be there. Yeah, please come. It's going to
[5:26] Speaker 2: go off. Look, I think what's happened is this is
[5:29] Speaker 2: 30 years in the making. By the time we get
[5:31] Speaker 2: on stage, it's going to be 30 years. Incredible. The anniversary.
[5:34] Speaker 2: So the fact that it has now reached 30 years
[5:38] Speaker 2: of Australians all across the board of all different ages,
[5:40] Speaker 2: of all different spectrums and places and people and in
[5:43] Speaker 2: all different ways of life and walks of life to
[5:46] Speaker 2: now take it to the stage and try to bring
[5:48] Speaker 2: what we do best on the stage and share that
[5:51] Speaker 2: with an audience in a whole new way by elevating
[5:53] Speaker 2: the story, not by necessarily turning it and adapting it
[5:56] Speaker 2: into something wild and crazy and taking it and spinning
[5:59] Speaker 2: it to something you don't know. We want to place
[6:01] Speaker 2: it right back into your heart, right back into that
[6:04] Speaker 2: piece of nostalgia while elevating it to something that only
[6:07] Speaker 2: can be done on stage. And you know that we
[6:10] Speaker 2: like Jonathan Oxlade, Paige Rattray, we've got Clemence Williams, who
[6:13] Speaker 2: was Tony-nominated composer. You know, like, it's remarkable. And, yeah,
[6:19] Speaker 2: I mean, Castle doesn't miss. Working Dog doesn't miss. So
[6:22] Speaker 2: it's going to be very, very special.
[6:23] Speaker 4: The Castle, at its core, it's about family and home. Yeah.
[6:27] Speaker 4: Is your fiancée on Broadway?
[6:29] Speaker 2: She is, yeah.
[6:29] Speaker 4: That's very cool.
[6:30] Speaker 2: Romy's crushing it. Romy's living the dream. Romy Vuxen, say
[6:33] Speaker 2: her name, she is incredible.
[6:35] Speaker 4: Oh, I've seen her in many a program.
[6:36] Speaker 2: Have you? Yeah.
[6:37] Speaker 4: She's the best, man.
[6:38] Speaker 2: Yeah. We figured out that we had been watching each
[6:40] Speaker 2: other on stage... for about eight years. So either she'd
[6:43] Speaker 2: been on stage and I'd been in the audience, or
[6:45] Speaker 2: I'd been on stage and she was in the audience,
[6:47] Speaker 2: and we'd never met. And then we met on the
[6:49] Speaker 2: streets of Melbourne while they were rehearsing Anjuliette. I was
[6:52] Speaker 2: waiting for Rob Mills, and he's always 15 to 20
[6:55] Speaker 2: minutes late.
[6:57] Speaker 4: God bless Rob Mills.
[6:58] Speaker 2: And out walked Romy, and she has just continued to
[7:01] Speaker 2: go from incredible opportunity to incredible opportunity. And we've been
[7:06] Speaker 2: doing long distance now for like two years. But finally...
[7:11] Speaker 2: She'll get a chance to come and see me do
[7:12] Speaker 2: my thing on stage with this, which is very special.
[7:15] Speaker 4: It's going to be incredible. Congratulations. I cannot wait to
[7:18] Speaker 4: say I can't wait to be one of those audience
[7:20] Speaker 4: members that you're going to be jealous of.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Thank you, mate. And then come backstage to see all
[7:22] Speaker 2: the secrets.
[7:24] Speaker 4: Absolutely. You will not be able to get rid of me.
[7:26] Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. If you ask really nicely. We'll think
[7:29] Speaker 2: about it.
[7:29] Speaker 4: Just say the name Joel at Stage Door. 50 bucks
[7:31] Speaker 4: and Joel at Stage Door. Yeah, great.
[7:32] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Thanks, Ian.
[7:34] Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
[7:35] Speaker 2: Thanks, Joel.
[7:36] Speaker 4: So exciting. The Castle is opening at Her Majesty's Theatre
[7:39] Speaker 4: in Melbourne from March 2027. Tickets on sale now at thecastleonstage.com.au.
[7:46] Speaker 4: A pleasure chatting to Joel Jackson from the cast.
[7:50] Speaker 2: Joel.
[7:51] Speaker 4: Yes, Jessica.
[7:52] Speaker 2: Creasy.
[7:53] Speaker 3: Creasy.
[7:54] Speaker 6: Grab your juice boxes and sit down for story time
[7:57] Speaker 6: with Joel's bestie from the Westie, Janelle Koenig.
[8:01] Speaker 3: Janelle's juice box.
[8:06] Speaker 4: Oh, I do love calling my best mate on a
[8:08] Speaker 4: Tuesday for a laugh. Hello, Janelle. Hello, babe.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Hello, babe.
[8:13] Speaker 4: I'm excited to see you on the weekend. Yes, you
[8:20] Speaker 4: get to lobby in the world's smallest apartment with Jack, myself,
[8:24] Speaker 4: and our grown dog slash woman girlfriend.
[8:28] Speaker 1: Oh, I am very proud to maintain my status as
[8:32] Speaker 1: the only woman girlfriend likes.
[8:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, that is correct. She is a judgemental bitch. How
[8:39] Speaker 4: are you otherwise? Yeah, that's true.
[8:42] Speaker 1: It's true. Babe, something mortifying happened again to me, of course.
[8:48] Speaker 4: Shock horror.
[8:50] Speaker 1: Yeah. So two weekends ago, I attended a ball at
[8:57] Speaker 1: Crown Perth for a charity that I'm an ambassador for,
[9:01] Speaker 1: the Kids Cancer Support Group. So great, amazing, amazing event.
[9:05] Speaker 4: I didn't know you do charity work outside of yourself.
[9:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:09] Speaker 1: LAUGHTER Outside of Phil, yeah. My partner.
[9:15] Speaker 2: I do.
[9:16] Speaker 1: I do a little bit of charity work. At the
[9:18] Speaker 1: end of the evening after all of the formalities had happened,
[9:20] Speaker 1: someone said to me, do you want to dance?
[9:25] Speaker 4: Oh, how very chivalrous and old school.
[9:30] Speaker 2: No, horrible.
[9:31] Speaker 1: I don't want to dance in public. I don't want
[9:33] Speaker 1: to dance in public looking in someone's eyes. I've known
[9:38] Speaker 1: you for over 15 years and we've never danced.
[9:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[9:43] Speaker 4: No.
[9:43] Speaker 1: We stood next to each other at Gaga while you
[9:46] Speaker 1: screamed at her.
[9:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, inappropriate.
[9:48] Speaker 1: And kind of swayed. But that's not dancing.
[9:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a little bit of a meltdown.
[9:53] Speaker 1: I remember you kept screaming at Gaga, move to Richmond.
[9:56] Speaker 1: I know. And I was like, but you've moved to
[9:58] Speaker 1: the city, babe.
[9:59] Speaker 2: I know. I didn't even live in Richmond.
[10:01] Speaker 4: I was overcome. I was in the moment.
[10:05] Speaker 1: But I realise where my trepidation with dancing comes from.
[10:10] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[10:11] Speaker 1: And that is when I was single, I met a
[10:14] Speaker 1: bloke at Trades Hall and he said to me, do
[10:17] Speaker 1: you want to dance? And I was like, absolutely. And
[10:21] Speaker 1: he said, off you go then. This is a true story.
[10:27] Speaker 1: His name is Grant. That's his name. I'm going to
[10:30] Speaker 1: name and shame. And I was like, well, I will dance.
[10:34] Speaker 1: I will dance. And just as I got up, it
[10:37] Speaker 1: changed from like a generic white dance track to ACDC Thunderstruck.
[10:44] Speaker 1: And everybody cleared the dance floor and I had to
[10:46] Speaker 1: dance by myself to ACDC with the whole song. Honestly,
[10:54] Speaker 1: dance like no one's watching.
[10:56] Speaker 4: I wish no one was watching. So dancing with the
[10:58] Speaker 4: stars is off the cards then? I think so.
[11:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[11:03] Speaker 1: Dancing with the D-listers maybe.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
[11:07] Speaker 4: Oh, that is mortifying. Mortifying. Yeah, I'm proud of you
[11:11] Speaker 4: for giving it a crack as always.
[11:13] Speaker 1: Thank you. You know I prefer a sit to a dance.
[11:16] Speaker 2: I know.
[11:17] Speaker 4: No one sits better. I'll see you on the weekend
[11:20] Speaker 4: to do plenty of it on my couch.
[11:22] Speaker 3: This is The Joel Creasy Show.
[11:25] Speaker 6: Time to read up on all the hot goss in
[11:28] Speaker 6: the world of showbiz from an actual scroll delivered straight
[11:32] Speaker 6: to Joel's studio. It's Joel's Scroll Update.
[11:37] Speaker 4: Hello, Natalie Locke. Oh, hello, Joel Creasy. You and I
[11:40] Speaker 4: have been right across the Kelly Clarkson saga over the
[11:43] Speaker 4: last week, but that's come to a... It's coming to
[11:46] Speaker 4: a close. I'm so sad.
[11:48] Speaker 5: I'm bereft is what I am, which is the greatest
[11:51] Speaker 5: thing to happen in pop culture in living memory. And
[11:54] Speaker 5: I don't say that lightly.
[11:55] Speaker 4: And great use of the word bereft. But, you know,
[11:58] Speaker 4: keep an eye out on your Christmas stocking because some
[12:02] Speaker 4: one Natalie Locke might be getting an animatronic singing bird.
[12:06] Speaker 5: Look, if somebody isn't popping those things, you're going to
[12:08] Speaker 5: be able to buy.
[12:08] Speaker 4: Them at Kmart next week for sure. Yeah, in the
[12:11] Speaker 4: middle section of Aldi. This is exciting. Lady Gaga. I'm
[12:15] Speaker 4: surprised as well as a Gaga fan that it's coming
[12:19] Speaker 4: this soon. Has teased new music might be on the
[12:21] Speaker 4: way after recently welcoming her first child with her fiance,
[12:25] Speaker 4: Michael Polanski.
[12:26] Speaker 5: Do we think it's going to go, she's going to
[12:28] Speaker 5: go like full wiggles and it's just all going to
[12:30] Speaker 5: be baby shark and stuff.
[12:31] Speaker 4: Like what is this? What's going to happen? Well, hey,
[12:33] Speaker 4: she's been able to nail every other genre. So I
[12:35] Speaker 4: would not be surprised. And I would, Listen to it,
[12:38] Speaker 4: consume it, go to the tour. A fan commented on
[12:42] Speaker 4: her TikTok saying, Gaga, please don't make us wait longer
[12:46] Speaker 4: and long for albums. We just want music. Every album
[12:48] Speaker 4: has been taking longer and longer, which, yeah. So put
[12:51] Speaker 4: that baby down, Gaga. Yeah, what else? Make music for us.
[12:55] Speaker 4: We don't care about the baby. We don't care about
[12:56] Speaker 4: the fiancé. We just care about the music. But she
[12:59] Speaker 4: did respond and said, don't worry, heart, heart.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Okay.
[13:03] Speaker 4: Oh, well, that says everything.
[13:04] Speaker 5: Yeah. It says everything it needs to say. I think
[13:06] Speaker 5: the evidence is there. So she's getting an animatronic singing
[13:09] Speaker 5: bird to do it?
[13:09] Speaker 4: I was going to say, this story really ain't no
[13:12] Speaker 4: animatronic singing bird, Molly, is it?
[13:13] Speaker 2: No.
[13:14] Speaker 4: Okay, try this one then.
[13:15] Speaker 5: So what I'm getting from that is that fans are
[13:18] Speaker 5: harassing a new mother to start.
[13:20] Speaker 2: Performing for them. Yeah. Yeah, okay, good. Just got it.
[13:22] Speaker 4: Just to be clear. We're Little Monsters and it's in
[13:25] Speaker 4: the title. Well, she created the monsters.
[13:27] Speaker 5: Correct.
[13:29] Speaker 4: Let's come back to haunt her.
[13:30] Speaker 2: Okay.
[13:31] Speaker 4: Rosie O'Donnell and Kristen Chenoweth, two people I didn't think
[13:34] Speaker 4: would be in the same sentence, are joining the cast
[13:37] Speaker 4: for a reading of a Dance Moms parody musical.
[13:42] Speaker 2: At last.
[13:43] Speaker 4: I know. It really makes sense.
[13:45] Speaker 5: I thought Dance Moms was a parody. Are you telling
[13:47] Speaker 5: me they were serious?
[13:48] Speaker 4: It's crazy.
[13:49] Speaker 5: What?
[13:50] Speaker 4: It's already a parody of itself. Rosie will play Abby
[13:53] Speaker 4: Lee Miller and Kristen is taking on the role of
[13:56] Speaker 4: Kathy Nesbitt-Steen. The team are trying to get funding to
[14:00] Speaker 4: bring the musical to life, but they're two big names
[14:02] Speaker 4: to sign on early days.
[14:03] Speaker 2: Yes.
[14:04] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Full disclosure, Joel, please don't think of
[14:10] Speaker 5: me badly.
[14:10] Speaker 4: You've never watched Dance Moms.
[14:11] Speaker 5: I've never watched Dance Moms.
[14:13] Speaker 4: I like to tell people that you're a member of Mensa,
[14:16] Speaker 4: speak 10 languages. Yeah, that's... Hence, I've never watched Dance Moms. Yeah,
[14:19] Speaker 4: it really checks out. I'm not surprised you haven't seen
[14:21] Speaker 4: Dance Moms, but we'll go to the musical if it
[14:23] Speaker 4: does come. But interestingly about Rosie O'Donnell, I just saw
[14:26] Speaker 4: online that she was filling in for Rachel Dratch on Broadway,
[14:29] Speaker 4: who was playing the role of the narrator in Rocky Horror. Yes,
[14:32] Speaker 4: which you've done. Which I've done. And Rachel was nominated
[14:35] Speaker 4: for a Tony Award for it, which, great role. Why
[14:37] Speaker 4: weren't you?
[14:38] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[14:39] Speaker 4: I mean, you're reading. You don't even.
[14:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[14:41] Speaker 4: I'm like, what's she doing? That's so good. Like, it's
[14:44] Speaker 4: a good role, but it's not that good. Thank you
[14:47] Speaker 4: so much, Natalie Locke. Have a lovely day. You're always welcome.
[14:52] Speaker 3: The Joel Creasy Show is done.
[14:54] Speaker 2: But Joel's got plenty.
[14:55] Speaker 3: More to say. Find more exclusive content on the Nova
[14:58] Speaker 3: Player app.

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