# Off-Air Podcast: The Full Carly Rae Jepsen Chat

An episode of [The Joel Creasey Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1892211318), 4 Sep 2026, 24 min.

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Carly Rae Jepsen is back on the scene in a major way with an absolutely banger double album, Day and Night! She reveals her dream 24 hours involves sleeping, slow walks and generally doing as little as humanly possible. Meanwhile, Joel tries to understand her surprisingly deep relationship with showers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Get ready.
[0:01] Speaker 2: Yes!
[0:02] Speaker 3: It's Joel Creasy.
[0:04] Speaker 2: Joel Creasy!
[0:05] Speaker 4: With the Joel Creasy Show.
[0:11] Speaker 3: Actually, welcome. Well, first of all, welcome to the Joel
[0:14] Speaker 3: Creasy Show podcast. But actually, I'm going to pick up
[0:16] Speaker 3: my iced coffee as I drink this because I like
[0:20] Speaker 3: to say that there is no more powerful human on
[0:24] Speaker 3: planet Earth than a gay man with a fresh iced coffee.
[0:27] Speaker 4: And.
[0:29] Speaker 3: even more powerful is a gay man with a fresh
[0:32] Speaker 3: iced coffee listening to a bit of Carly Rae Jepsen.
[0:36] Speaker 3: Even my producer, Erin, got a video of me driving
[0:39] Speaker 3: into work the other day, belting out a bit of
[0:41] Speaker 3: cut to the feeling because I love Carly Rae Jepsen.
[0:44] Speaker 3: And a lot of people immediately relate her to the song,
[0:47] Speaker 3: Call Me Maybe, which of course is a huge hit.
[0:49] Speaker 3: But we don't maybe realize just how many hits she
[0:54] Speaker 3: not only has herself, but has written for other people.
[0:57] Speaker 3: She is so insanely talented. She is the, what's the
[1:04] Speaker 3: word I'm looking for? The trophy holder of my greatest
[1:08] Speaker 3: concert experience of my life. Although I must say Bruno Mars,
[1:11] Speaker 3: the other weekend is very much up there. But a
[1:13] Speaker 3: few years ago, I went to see Carly Rae Jepsen
[1:16] Speaker 3: perform at the Forum Theatre in Melbourne. And it was
[1:17] Speaker 3: just one of those nights where the stars aligned. She
[1:20] Speaker 3: puts on such a great show and it was, yeah,
[1:23] Speaker 3: it was the greatest concert I've ever been to. And like,
[1:27] Speaker 3: it's just probably wasn't what I was expecting. You know,
[1:30] Speaker 3: you kind of, you know, when you buy a ticket
[1:32] Speaker 3: to see Lady Gaga and you're organizing your costume in advance.
[1:35] Speaker 3: And yes, it was one of the greatest concerts also
[1:37] Speaker 3: I've ever been to, but I don't know. There was
[1:38] Speaker 3: just something about it that was so special. And I
[1:41] Speaker 3: let Carly Rae know about that in this chat. I
[1:43] Speaker 3: think that's when I properly fell in love with her
[1:45] Speaker 3: greatest song of all time. Uh, cut, um, uh, Call
[1:49] Speaker 3: me maybe, you know, all well and good. But cut
[1:51] Speaker 3: to the feeling is just such a banger, such a bop,
[1:56] Speaker 3: as the kids say. Carly Rae and I met when
[1:59] Speaker 3: we were presenting together at the 2019 ARIA Awards because
[2:04] Speaker 3: there was a period there at the ARIA Awards where
[2:06] Speaker 3: they would put the international pop star with me because
[2:11] Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, you'll be safe with her. Just,
[2:13] Speaker 3: you know, he'll, you know, flap about and he's got
[2:16] Speaker 3: a nasal voice and a limp wrist. You'll be fine.
[2:18] Speaker 3: And Carly Rae and I got on like a house
[2:19] Speaker 3: on fire, and she remembered me. I was so stoked
[2:22] Speaker 3: because I just absolutely adore her. Her new album, Day
[2:26] Speaker 3: and Night, it's a double album. It's brilliant. It literally
[2:30] Speaker 3: takes you from day to night. Comes out September 18,
[2:32] Speaker 3: and I insist you get it because she is my
[2:35] Speaker 3: best friend in the whole entire world. I jumped at
[2:39] Speaker 3: the opportunity to chat to pop icon diva, mother legend queen. Yes,
[2:44] Speaker 3: hang on. One more celebratory sip of iced coffee for
[2:47] Speaker 3: Carly Rae. Please enjoy my chat with the iconic Carly
[2:53] Speaker 3: Rae Jepsen.
[2:54] Speaker 2: This is the Joel Creasy Show.
[2:56] Speaker 3: Carly, because you and I presented together at the 2019
[2:59] Speaker 3: ARIA Awards, I have joked... ever since that we're best friends.
[3:05] Speaker 3: Am I allowed to keep doing that joke?
[3:06] Speaker 1: I mean, we clearly are, though.
[3:09] Speaker 3: I'm like, I am obsessed. Yeah, so let's do a
[3:11] Speaker 3: bestie catch-up. How have you been since we last, you know,
[3:13] Speaker 3: had our little catch-up in 2019?
[3:15] Speaker 4: Oh, you know, got married, had a baby.
[3:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, congrats on that.
[3:20] Speaker 1: We did a double amor.
[3:22] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[3:23] Speaker 3: I know. And you had the baby in March very recently?
[3:26] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[3:26] Speaker 1: Very recently.
[3:27] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[3:28] Speaker 4: He is coming up on six months and a week,
[3:31] Speaker 4: which is wild to me. They say like you blank
[3:35] Speaker 4: and he's an adult man and I get it now.
[3:37] Speaker 4: Like I'm like, slow down, sir. Yeah.
[3:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but you're releasing albums and stuff, so
[3:43] Speaker 3: people could say the same to you. Okay, touche. Well,
[3:49] Speaker 3: I have to say since we presented together, I mean,
[3:52] Speaker 3: I've always been a mad fan, but this is on record.
[3:56] Speaker 3: I'm not just saying this because we're chatting right now.
[3:59] Speaker 3: I saw you perform at the Forum Theatre here in
[4:01] Speaker 3: Melbourne and I thought I couldn't go because I was
[4:05] Speaker 3: on tour at the time and then I happened to
[4:07] Speaker 3: have the night free on My mate had a ticket.
[4:10] Speaker 3: I was like, yes, I'll come. I shit you not, Carly.
[4:13] Speaker 3: It is the best concert I've ever been to. I've
[4:16] Speaker 3: been saying it ever since. Wow.
[4:20] Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say.
[4:20] Speaker 5: Thank you.
[4:21] Speaker 1: That's amazing. Wow. That's, that's a lot. And you go
[4:26] Speaker 1: to a lot of shows. So I feel extremely honored.
[4:29] Speaker 3: I mean, like, and the whole bestie thing doesn't play
[4:31] Speaker 3: into it. Although I did, I did say to my friend,
[4:34] Speaker 3: we follow each other on Instagram and I sent you
[4:35] Speaker 3: a message being like, Hey Carly, I'm in the crowd.
[4:39] Speaker 3: Like as if you were going to be checking your
[4:41] Speaker 3: phone two minutes before going on. Yeah. Joel's here.
[4:44] Speaker 4: Oh no, that is, that is amazing. I, um, I,
[4:51] Speaker 4: I don't, I have to say like, My, like, favorite
[4:54] Speaker 4: all-time shows, they stick out to me as, like, a
[4:57] Speaker 4: moment in time where, like, I don't think anything else
[5:01] Speaker 4: in life where it's.
[5:02] Speaker 1: A good movie. I mean, musicals.
[5:04] Speaker 4: I do like a good musical, though, too. But I
[5:06] Speaker 4: love going to a great show. In fact, you know
[5:08] Speaker 4: who I'm going to go see soon? Yeah, who?
[5:10] Speaker 1: It's Robin. I'm very, very excited. I think I say
[5:13] Speaker 1: Robin and Beck back-to-back. Like, night one, night two.
[5:16] Speaker 2: How awesome is that?
[5:17] Speaker 3: Oh, I'm desperate to see Robin. I remember... Um, when
[5:20] Speaker 3: my American ex dumped me, I went to New York
[5:24] Speaker 3: and was, I was writing a book and I was like,
[5:26] Speaker 3: I'm going to be like Carrie Bradshaw and go and,
[5:28] Speaker 3: you know, write a book. I didn't, I partied every
[5:30] Speaker 3: night and I was, it was my birthday. I was
[5:32] Speaker 3: out on my own dancing on the, oh, where was I?
[5:35] Speaker 3: It was like the stone wall or something crying to
[5:38] Speaker 3: Robbins dancing on my own. And I felt this tap, tap,
[5:40] Speaker 3: tap on the shoulder. And I was like, oh, he's,
[5:43] Speaker 3: he's flown over from LA. Okay. to apologize and take
[5:46] Speaker 3: me back.
[5:47] Speaker 1: Of course. And he knew exactly where you were.
[5:50] Speaker 3: Babe, it wasn't him. It was like this lovely lesbian
[5:53] Speaker 3: asking for me to move out of the way so
[5:54] Speaker 3: she could get to the bathroom.
[5:56] Speaker 1: Oh, that story could have gone. I thought you were
[5:59] Speaker 1: going to say it was Robin for a second. I
[6:00] Speaker 1: was like, that's amazing.
[6:02] Speaker 3: But you're like, okay, when you go, I mean, we're
[6:05] Speaker 3: going to talk about your incredible music in a second.
[6:07] Speaker 3: But when you go to Robin, are these artists freaking
[6:11] Speaker 3: out that Carly Rae's in the crowd?
[6:14] Speaker 2: Oh, probably not.
[6:15] Speaker 4: I mean, I, I don't think anyone can do anything
[6:18] Speaker 4: other than bow down to Robin.
[6:19] Speaker 3: She's the queen.
[6:20] Speaker 1: She's kind of how we.
[6:21] Speaker 4: All, um, I, I think like some of her work
[6:24] Speaker 4: is some of my favorite music of all time.
[6:26] Speaker 1: She's up there with the greats of like Prince to me.
[6:29] Speaker 3: I agree. I love that you love music musicals as well.
[6:32] Speaker 3: I think I saw you. I didn't know this. It
[6:34] Speaker 3: was just on my sheet. I saw Cinderella on Broadway
[6:38] Speaker 3: in 2014.
[6:40] Speaker 1: I did.
[6:41] Speaker 3: Was this with like Marla Mandel and stuff?
[6:44] Speaker 1: I was doing it.
[6:45] Speaker 4: With Fran Drescher, who was my stepmom.
[6:48] Speaker 3: I saw you.
[6:49] Speaker 2: I saw you.
[6:51] Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
[6:54] Speaker 1: Well, of course you did. We're besties.
[6:57] Speaker 3: We're best friends. You were amazing. Would you do more musicals?
[7:04] Speaker 4: I mean, I hope to, but in a different way.
[7:06] Speaker 4: I'm currently actually working on writing the music for a
[7:12] Speaker 4: musical for 10 Things I.
[7:13] Speaker 1: Hate About You. I know.
[7:15] Speaker 3: I know you are. Because my best friend is Heath
[7:18] Speaker 3: Ledger's sister. And so that movie was, yeah, weird.
[7:22] Speaker 1: What?
[7:22] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[7:23] Speaker 3: And so that musical is such a massive, movie rather,
[7:27] Speaker 3: is such a massive part of our life. And I
[7:30] Speaker 3: actually messaged her the other day when the announcement came out,
[7:32] Speaker 3: because she lives in New York. And I said, I'm
[7:34] Speaker 3: going to have to come over for this. And now
[7:36] Speaker 3: that you're writing the music, it's like all my best
[7:38] Speaker 3: friends colliding.
[7:40] Speaker 1: I know. That project's such a dream project.
[7:44] Speaker 4: I mean, the.
[7:46] Speaker 1: Movie, were you like a fan? It was like cult classic. Yes.
[7:50] Speaker 3: I love you, baby, in the bleachers. Oh, my gosh.
[7:54] Speaker 5: I know.
[7:55] Speaker 4: That like trumps every dreamy high school experience one could have.
[7:59] Speaker 4: You just want a man to serenade you and embarrass himself.
[8:01] Speaker 1: Come on.
[8:02] Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyways.
[8:05] Speaker 4: It'll be very fun to do it from like a
[8:06] Speaker 4: different angle though.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Like I loved, don't get me wrong. It was very
[8:09] Speaker 1: fun to be a princess every night.
[8:11] Speaker 4: But I'm really looking forward to getting to kind of
[8:15] Speaker 4: help build this world that I love so much and
[8:18] Speaker 4: kind of, it's so separate from my own project and
[8:21] Speaker 4: my own music. Cause it's sort of based in the nineties,
[8:24] Speaker 4: but it's nineties pop and musical. It's a different language altogether,
[8:27] Speaker 4: but I honestly can't wait.
[8:28] Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, when I saw you were attached, I was like, Oh,
[8:30] Speaker 3: thank God. Cause that movie means a lot to me.
[8:32] Speaker 3: So I cannot wait.
[8:34] Speaker 1: It means a lot to us all.
[8:36] Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's something to handle with care, but
[8:38] Speaker 4: we intend to do the best we can with it.
[8:40] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:41] Speaker 3: Now let's talk about your music.
[8:43] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:43] Speaker 3: I mean, you can explain day and night better than
[8:46] Speaker 3: I can, but I love, I love the, like what
[8:49] Speaker 3: you've done with it.
[8:50] Speaker 1: Like, can I though? I feel like I'm so bad
[8:53] Speaker 1: at explaining day and night. I'm going to try.
[8:55] Speaker 3: Okay. You try and then I can, I can help
[8:57] Speaker 3: you if you need me to.
[8:58] Speaker 1: Yes.
[8:59] Speaker 2: Yes.
[9:00] Speaker 3: Yes.
[9:00] Speaker 1: Cause you've heard it. Yeah.
[9:03] Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
[9:03] Speaker 1: So day is... Day is a bit more organic. And
[9:08] Speaker 1: it's dreamy.
[9:10] Speaker 4: It's a little psychedelic folky pop. Huh? Yeah.
[9:13] Speaker 3: Tick, tick.
[9:14] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[9:14] Speaker 3: No, you're doing well so far.
[9:16] Speaker 1: And it still has, hopefully, some energy.
[9:20] Speaker 4: But it's something to kind of move you through a
[9:23] Speaker 4: day with a bit more romance.
[9:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:25] Speaker 1: Romance in the mundane, you know? Yeah. And the nighttime... Nighttime.
[9:30] Speaker 4: Those same emotions that you're experiencing in the day are
[9:32] Speaker 4: just heightened and everything's.
[9:34] Speaker 1: Slightly more dramatic. And now it's like a little synth
[9:37] Speaker 1: based and darker.
[9:38] Speaker 4: And it's not like an 11 out of 10 energy
[9:40] Speaker 4: all the time, but there are those moments.
[9:43] Speaker 1: And it's a good album.
[9:44] Speaker 4: To maybe dance alone in your house unabashedly and like.
[9:49] Speaker 1: Be transported somewhere European.
[9:51] Speaker 3: We were just dancing. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean,
[9:53] Speaker 3: there's a song called a mouthy so that that helps
[9:56] Speaker 3: um but we were just dancing in studio to no
[9:58] Speaker 3: labels i love how did i.
[9:59] Speaker 4: Do that was the most indulgent explanation of day and
[10:03] Speaker 4: night that i've ever.
[10:03] Speaker 1: Given before i just like went for it.
[10:05] Speaker 3: It's me babe it's me and you nailed it like
[10:09] Speaker 3: no notes.
[10:12] Speaker 4: It's so hard to talk about one's own music and
[10:14] Speaker 4: put it into words.
[10:15] Speaker 1: You kind of just want to be like, I don't know.
[10:17] Speaker 1: You tell me what it is.
[10:17] Speaker 3: You take a listen. I'll tell you what it is.
[10:19] Speaker 3: And forgive me for saying this. It's brilliant is what
[10:22] Speaker 3: it is.
[10:25] Speaker 2: The Joel Gracie Show.
[10:26] Speaker 3: So your dream 24 hours, is it like doing something?
[10:29] Speaker 3: Or are you like, let me bed rot?
[10:33] Speaker 5: Oh, gosh.
[10:34] Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's hilarious that you say the bed
[10:35] Speaker 1: rot thing because....
[10:38] Speaker 4: When I was listening back to what I had made,
[10:40] Speaker 4: I started chuckling at how many moments in the album
[10:44] Speaker 4: I just like romanticize and fantasize about sleeping all day.
[10:48] Speaker 3: You're a new mom.
[10:50] Speaker 1: I wasn't at.
[10:51] Speaker 4: The time, but if I felt it then, I feel
[10:54] Speaker 4: it more now.
[10:55] Speaker 1: I'm like, what a concept.
[10:57] Speaker 4: It'll be like, I'll just be like talking to a
[10:58] Speaker 4: guy in my song and I'm like, and.
[11:00] Speaker 1: We could sleep all day.
[11:03] Speaker 4: And we can just lay in bed all day long
[11:05] Speaker 4: for like three days.
[11:06] Speaker 1: Like that's my idea. I'm just like a good time.
[11:08] Speaker 1: I was like, are you okay?
[11:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Because in Habits of Creatures, you
[11:15] Speaker 3: talk about shower and then take a walk. Are you
[11:17] Speaker 3: talking about having a shower together? Because I have thoughts
[11:19] Speaker 3: on that. Yes.
[11:21] Speaker 1: I'm a big, I'm a big fan of a big shower.
[11:23] Speaker 4: That's, I feel like most of my conversations with my
[11:26] Speaker 4: husband happen in the shower. We're like, what are we
[11:28] Speaker 4: doing today?
[11:33] Speaker 3: See, if I was in the shower, Mike, like we
[11:35] Speaker 3: tried me, my fiance and I were like, you're, you're
[11:38] Speaker 3: petite and gorgeous. Like we're just two men in the shower. Like,
[11:42] Speaker 3: and no one's looking like flattering, you know, like when
[11:44] Speaker 3: they're like, Hey, can you pass me the conditioner? Yeah.
[11:48] Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, though? I feel like... Here's
[11:51] Speaker 1: the thing.
[11:51] Speaker 4: I have a very specific relationship to showers, and I
[11:54] Speaker 4: don't know where I'm going with this, so just follow
[11:56] Speaker 4: me for a hot second.
[11:57] Speaker 3: I will follow you into war.
[11:58] Speaker 1: Okay, well, God bless. But I.
[12:03] Speaker 4: I feel like I have been in some of the dirtiest, craziest,
[12:07] Speaker 4: smallest showers in the world just because of the touring life.
[12:09] Speaker 3: Of course.
[12:09] Speaker 1: So it's a very well-known fact, but.
[12:11] Speaker 4: You can be at a stadium and you're like in
[12:13] Speaker 4: a hockey shower that night before you get on the
[12:14] Speaker 4: bus again.
[12:15] Speaker 1: And those things are dire. Like you've got to like,
[12:18] Speaker 1: you've got to make.
[12:18] Speaker 4: Like a nest with like the towels.
[12:20] Speaker 1: And like set it up.
[12:22] Speaker 4: So if I'm at home and I have a chance
[12:24] Speaker 4: to have like a nice shower, I'm I have been
[12:27] Speaker 4: known to like sit in there for too long just
[12:28] Speaker 4: because I know what it's like on the other side.
[12:31] Speaker 4: Like I remember touring too well, but I'm like the
[12:34] Speaker 4: hot water is working.
[12:35] Speaker 3: I get it. I once did a big show and
[12:41] Speaker 3: then after I was staying in this motel and the
[12:43] Speaker 3: room had six beds in one room. I'm like, it
[12:46] Speaker 3: was so gross to see. Why do we need six beds?
[12:49] Speaker 1: Nobody needs six beds. I have so many questions that
[12:53] Speaker 1: I don't want answered.
[12:54] Speaker 3: I don't want them answered either because I had to
[12:56] Speaker 3: sleep the night in there. And On Wires is very flirty.
[13:02] Speaker 3: Do you, like, I mean, you're a musician, so you've
[13:08] Speaker 3: got that. I feel like as a comic, I'm just
[13:10] Speaker 3: a bad, I'm just a bad, I once, okay, now
[13:13] Speaker 3: I'm oversharing to you. I once told a guy that
[13:16] Speaker 3: I loved him within an hour of meeting him.
[13:20] Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's hot. Do you? Yes, I really do.
[13:24] Speaker 2: I really do.
[13:25] Speaker 4: This is going to sound like crazy, but I feel
[13:29] Speaker 4: like I feel like when you know, you know, in
[13:32] Speaker 4: a certain way, like you don't know what what's going
[13:35] Speaker 4: to crash and burn or where things are going to go.
[13:36] Speaker 1: But I can tell pretty immediately if I'm going to
[13:39] Speaker 1: fall in love with somebody.
[13:40] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:41] Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, no.
[13:42] Speaker 1: I'm in big trouble and that's exciting.
[13:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't, just spoiler alert.
[13:49] Speaker 3: Like I can't even remember his name, but I totally
[13:52] Speaker 3: know what you mean. And then motivation. I always look
[13:56] Speaker 3: for a song on an album. I'm such a cliche.
[14:00] Speaker 3: I love a spin class and I can see myself like,
[14:04] Speaker 3: because I love anytime you come on at spin, but
[14:07] Speaker 3: I can see that being like a new staple. But
[14:10] Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's not about working out.
[14:14] Speaker 1: Well, first of all, good for you for the spin class.
[14:16] Speaker 3: I mean, anything, I.
[14:18] Speaker 1: Mean, give me that motivation. Never thought of it that way,
[14:21] Speaker 1: but Hey, coming from a girl who does not exercise recently,
[14:25] Speaker 1: I could, I could use a little of that. Um, no, that's,
[14:28] Speaker 1: that's amazing.
[14:29] Speaker 4: I feel like there's a certain type of music that
[14:31] Speaker 4: I want to listen to when I'm in that place
[14:34] Speaker 4: in my life where I'm exercising, which I'm hoping comes back,
[14:37] Speaker 4: you know, Yeah.
[14:38] Speaker 1: Into the cycle soon. That would be nice. But I'm
[14:41] Speaker 1: not there right now.
[14:41] Speaker 4: Right now, a slow walk and I'm set.
[14:44] Speaker 2: I love a slow walk.
[14:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, a shower and then take a walk. I know.
[14:48] Speaker 3: I heard it on the album.
[14:49] Speaker 1: It's a very lazy existence.
[14:52] Speaker 3: You are so busy. So like we had a like,
[14:57] Speaker 3: like every day because I'm when I host this show.
[15:00] Speaker 3: I get like, um, like what the day is and
[15:02] Speaker 3: it could be like national margarita day or international, like
[15:05] Speaker 3: there's a day for everything. And there was, yeah, yeah. Well,
[15:09] Speaker 3: there was, um, it was international mother day. And, um,
[15:12] Speaker 3: so we played you because you are mother. Um, you
[15:17] Speaker 3: have such like you, your relationship to the gay community
[15:21] Speaker 3: is so cool and you are such a such an ally.
[15:25] Speaker 3: And can you, can you explain that? Or is it
[15:28] Speaker 3: just something that we've kind of just, we've just drawn
[15:31] Speaker 3: to you?
[15:35] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[15:35] Speaker 4: I can't explain, but I can explain that I feel
[15:39] Speaker 4: like I found my home in my community and it
[15:43] Speaker 4: feels like, I don't know, I feel like we met
[15:46] Speaker 4: maybe at a motion on and it's just been like
[15:48] Speaker 4: the gift of my life. And I've always, I've always
[15:52] Speaker 4: felt like if you come to one of the shows,
[15:54] Speaker 4: what I love about the connectivity of music is I
[15:57] Speaker 4: feel like you get to like leave knowing more.
[15:59] Speaker 1: People, hopefully, if we've done the show right.
[16:02] Speaker 4: And it's some of like, the people that come to
[16:04] Speaker 4: the shows are some of the coolest, kindest, just Swedish. Like,
[16:08] Speaker 4: I've always felt like I could go on stage and
[16:09] Speaker 4: just like fall on my ass and they'd.
[16:11] Speaker 1: Be like, get up, girl.
[16:12] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[16:13] Speaker 3: We're like, slay, slay.
[16:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[16:15] Speaker 4: Yeah. Which is just, I, and thank God too, because
[16:19] Speaker 4: I'm just, I am that person who probably will fall.
[16:22] Speaker 1: You know?
[16:22] Speaker 4: And so it's made me feel the love and support
[16:26] Speaker 4: to get up and be more and more comfortable just
[16:29] Speaker 4: being myself. I think that's, that's the message really with
[16:32] Speaker 4: motivation too.
[16:33] Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's maybe what made your concert genuinely
[16:37] Speaker 3: my favorite of all time. It was the crowd as well.
[16:39] Speaker 3: It was just so joyous. And like, I remember the
[16:42] Speaker 3: person I was with and we just walked out on
[16:44] Speaker 3: such a high.
[16:47] Speaker 4: Well, that has always been the weird thing is that
[16:50] Speaker 4: I feel like I have the best vantage.
[16:51] Speaker 1: Like the view that I have is the best view
[16:54] Speaker 1: in the house. And I know I sometimes forget my role.
[16:57] Speaker 3: In it a little bit.
[16:59] Speaker 1: I just get to like be a conductor of good energy, really.
[17:02] Speaker 1: And it's the best. It's the best job ever.
[17:04] Speaker 4: I can be in a weird mood that day. Things
[17:07] Speaker 4: can be going like, you know, sideways for me. And
[17:11] Speaker 4: then I get on stage and I swear I can
[17:12] Speaker 4: forget everything. everything and just really appreciate the moment for
[17:17] Speaker 4: what it is I've been known to like accidentally like
[17:20] Speaker 4: get like a cut and have like glass in my
[17:22] Speaker 4: foot and.
[17:23] Speaker 1: Then you go on stage and like you don't.
[17:24] Speaker 4: Feel it it's just like for some reason there's just
[17:28] Speaker 4: a different energy that takes over and I really think.
[17:31] Speaker 3: That that's the crowd yeah no totally it's like it's
[17:33] Speaker 3: the best therapy for us yeah.
[17:37] Speaker 2: The Joel Gracie Show.
[17:39] Speaker 3: You also have like the greatest song of all time,
[17:41] Speaker 3: Cut to the Feeling. Is there, and when that song
[17:44] Speaker 3: comes on, like I request it here all the time.
[17:47] Speaker 3: Every time I'm out on a dance floor, like there's
[17:49] Speaker 3: a DJ actually in Melbourne that like knows when I
[17:52] Speaker 3: come like stumbling up to him after a few white wines.
[17:54] Speaker 3: He's like, yes, I'm going to play Cut to the Feeling.
[17:58] Speaker 3: Does that ever not go off when you perform it?
[18:02] Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because for years we'd always close
[18:06] Speaker 4: with Call Me Maybe. And then we switched it up
[18:08] Speaker 4: for Cut to the Feeling one time. And it had
[18:10] Speaker 4: like a bigger impact. So that's generally now. The tradition
[18:14] Speaker 4: is we close the show with Cut to the Feeling.
[18:16] Speaker 4: And I always get handed a bunch of swords.
[18:18] Speaker 1: It's very strange.
[18:19] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[18:20] Speaker 1: But love it.
[18:21] Speaker 4: Great.
[18:21] Speaker 3: Because I wanted to ask about the swords. And then
[18:23] Speaker 3: I was like, am I going to seem... Like to
[18:25] Speaker 3: my best friend, like I'm not in on everything. What's
[18:28] Speaker 3: with the swords?
[18:29] Speaker 1: What is with the swords? You know, I had the
[18:32] Speaker 1: same question.
[18:33] Speaker 4: But when I say that the community has embraced and
[18:37] Speaker 4: also has like, I don't know, come at me with
[18:40] Speaker 4: their best jokes, so much humor that I love, which
[18:42] Speaker 4: if you know me, I like live to laugh.
[18:44] Speaker 1: So one of the things that happened online, I learned
[18:47] Speaker 1: this after the.
[18:48] Speaker 4: Fact, was somebody made a petition online. to give me
[18:51] Speaker 4: a sword. I, I, I know.
[18:54] Speaker 1: It's as absurd as it sounds.
[18:56] Speaker 4: And, and then I guess it, with the whole, the whole,
[18:58] Speaker 4: it was a lot of signatures, apparently.
[19:01] Speaker 1: And then it happened. And so at the show, I
[19:04] Speaker 1: was given a sword.
[19:05] Speaker 4: And, um, I was just as baffled as anybody would be,
[19:10] Speaker 4: but I raised the sword and now I have more swords.
[19:15] Speaker 1: I could make like, you know, in Game of Thrones, how.
[19:17] Speaker 4: They have like, I could make like an inflatable version
[19:22] Speaker 4: of them from the amount.
[19:23] Speaker 1: Of inflatable festivals. There was one show where I had
[19:26] Speaker 1: like seven swords and I was like, what, this is
[19:27] Speaker 1: getting out of hand.
[19:29] Speaker 3: I remember exactly, like, you know, and then because when
[19:31] Speaker 3: you have that favorite concert, I remember that exact moment.
[19:34] Speaker 3: I know exactly where on the stage you were. singing
[19:36] Speaker 3: cut to the feeling. I'm there with a friend, like
[19:39] Speaker 3: having the time of life. And there you are with
[19:40] Speaker 3: a sword. Like I can actually picture it.
[19:42] Speaker 4: I mean, these traditions, you couldn't imagine them if you tried,
[19:46] Speaker 4: They become part of the show and it's amazing.
[19:50] Speaker 3: And also, day and night, you wrote with your husband?
[19:57] Speaker 4: I did.
[19:58] Speaker 3: That's so convenient because my fiancé said the other day,
[20:01] Speaker 3: maybe I could manage you. And I was like, bro,
[20:03] Speaker 3: if you manage me, I would never work again. Like
[20:06] Speaker 3: how does that relationship work?
[20:10] Speaker 4: I mean, we had to figure it out because, to
[20:13] Speaker 4: be honest, like, it's not as easy as it would sound.
[20:17] Speaker 5: We got to, like, a really good place with it.
[20:19] Speaker 4: But the hilarity of just how real you are with
[20:22] Speaker 4: your partner is just, like, sometimes cutthroat, right?
[20:26] Speaker 1: So if somebody else in a room was like, I've
[20:27] Speaker 1: got this idea, and you're like, oh, yeah.
[20:30] Speaker 3: Right?
[20:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[20:32] Speaker 1: With your husband, you're like, I hate it. I hate
[20:34] Speaker 1: it so much. And so then you have to be like, wait, sorry,
[20:38] Speaker 1: did I say that a little harsh?
[20:39] Speaker 3: And you get.
[20:40] Speaker 1: Into being like, wait.
[20:42] Speaker 4: So the two of us, I feel like we knew
[20:44] Speaker 4: couples around us who co-wrote together and who gave up
[20:48] Speaker 4: on it.
[20:49] Speaker 1: They're like, we cannot do it anymore.
[20:50] Speaker 4: We have to save our relationship by not working together
[20:53] Speaker 4: in the studio. But Cole and I actually, I think
[20:56] Speaker 4: a big part of our relationship is is tied into
[21:00] Speaker 4: connection over our.
[21:01] Speaker 1: Love, like, our shared love of music.
[21:03] Speaker 4: So it's, like, as much as I'm, like, joking about the,
[21:06] Speaker 4: you know, the harshness of that moment there, which did happen,
[21:11] Speaker 4: there's other moments that are, like, lovely, where I can.
[21:14] Speaker 1: He knows me so well, and I'm so... not afraid
[21:18] Speaker 1: to be weird.
[21:18] Speaker 4: In front of him that like I can be like
[21:22] Speaker 4: playing with our son in the morning he comes in
[21:23] Speaker 4: and I'm like quick I have an idea and I
[21:25] Speaker 4: just keep thinking he's like grabbing the phone to like
[21:27] Speaker 4: record it and I'm like you know and.
[21:30] Speaker 1: I feel like if I was married to like a
[21:31] Speaker 1: dentist or something they'd be like.
[21:32] Speaker 5: Who did I marry like this girl is just like
[21:35] Speaker 5: crazy but he he gets it and he celebrates it
[21:39] Speaker 5: and to be honest now I feel like since we've
[21:41] Speaker 5: like figured out each other's like way of poaching music,
[21:45] Speaker 5: which is a really different way.
[21:46] Speaker 4: Like I'm a real big lyric girl and I really
[21:50] Speaker 4: like love to get into a story and I can
[21:52] Speaker 4: show him songs that he's loved for years and he
[21:54] Speaker 4: has no idea what the lyrics are like he's just
[21:56] Speaker 4: come from it in a different sonic way but he's
[21:58] Speaker 4: he's able to tell me where like that shaker was
[22:02] Speaker 4: from and where it originated like he's just like a
[22:04] Speaker 4: really different brain about it but now I feel like
[22:07] Speaker 4: he's you know him and I would say my partner
[22:10] Speaker 4: Tavish Crowe who's one of my guitar well my one
[22:13] Speaker 4: and only guitarist literally since we were both kids together
[22:18] Speaker 4: Those are probably my top two most intimate collaborators of
[22:21] Speaker 4: all time where I just feel not fighting to share
[22:24] Speaker 4: my weirdest idea aloud and have it be not only caught,
[22:29] Speaker 4: but then like propelled where they're like, oh my God.
[22:31] Speaker 1: This is great. And you're like, really?
[22:32] Speaker 2: It's not to you?
[22:34] Speaker 1: And like, that's such a gift, right?
[22:36] Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you don't get your way, they know
[22:37] Speaker 3: you've got all those swords. So it's a threat to
[22:39] Speaker 3: threaten them with it.
[22:40] Speaker 4: I do.
[22:41] Speaker 1: I really do.
[22:43] Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I just wanted to like a
[22:45] Speaker 3: day and night is it's fantastic. I'm so excited for
[22:49] Speaker 3: the world to hear it. And I'm just, yeah, you
[22:51] Speaker 3: are so, you're so fantastic. I just, yeah. I'm sure
[22:55] Speaker 3: you hear that all day long, but I truly, truly
[22:57] Speaker 3: mean it. I've said it forever. It was the greatest
[22:59] Speaker 3: concert I've been to. You are such a star and
[23:02] Speaker 3: my best friend in the whole entire world.
[23:05] Speaker 1: Yes, Besty. Well, thank you so much. I'll see you
[23:08] Speaker 1: in New York for 10 things.
[23:10] Speaker 3: Deal. I will be there. And yeah, congratulations. You deserve
[23:15] Speaker 3: the world because you are your mother.
[23:19] Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
[23:21] Speaker 3: See you gorgeous. Bye.
[23:25] Speaker 2: The Joel Creasy Show is done, but Joel's got plenty
[23:29] Speaker 2: more to say. Find more exclusive content on the Nova
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