# Alan Joyce on Qantas, redundancies and regrets (he's had a few)

An episode of [ABC Business Daily](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1886002828), 7 Aug 2026, 40 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/n8/Z/2h.mp3

Alan Joyce spent two decades working for Qantas including fifteen years as CEO. He was one of Australia's most influential CEOs and had a pay packet to match. By the time he left the airline, Qantas had suffered huge reputation damage, thanks to job losses and the “ghost flights” controversy which infuriated many Australians during COVID. In this conversation on That's Business with Alan Kohler, Alan Joyce reflects on his time at the helm of Australia's national carrier. From navigating the global financial crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic to confronting intense public scrutiny, Joyce discusses the decisions that shaped Qantas and the lessons he's taken from them. Got a burning business question? Send a short voice recording to the ABC Business Daily team at abcbusinessdaily@abc.net.au GUEST joins Alan Kohler to unpack it all on That's Business with Alan Kohler. Got a burning business question? Send a short voice recording to the ABC Business Daily team at abcbusinessdaily@abc.net.au

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