# Reading the Leo in Her Chart: Kaitee Devilling on Your Karmic Path, the Jupiter Return, and Living Like the Sun

An episode of [The Spirit Daughter Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1877888956), 30 Jun 2026, 59 min.

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What happens when you sit down with the person who helped you create your very first new moon ritual and read her chart out loud? In this episode I am joined by Kaitee Devilling, founder of Moon Body Soul and one of my oldest friends. Long before the workbooks existed, Kaitee and I were roommates sitting on the floor doing new moon circles together. Those circles became the rituals so many of you use today, and one of them helped me manifest my husband. So this conversation is personal. We go deep into the Leo running through Kaitee’s chart and what all of that fire is here to teach. We talk about the South Node in Leo and the North Node in Aquarius, and how your nodes hold the karmic story of what you came here to release and what you came here to grow into. I walk through how to actually read the current transits moving across your own natal chart, including the Jupiter return and Jupiter moving through Leo, which is maximum expansion for all of us right now. If you have ever wanted to understand how the sky above is talking to the chart you were born with, this one is your map. It will spark something in you, and it might just remind you that you are the center of your own universe. Topics Covered: • How Kaitee and I met and started the new moon circles that became the workbook rituals • The Leo placements in her chart and what all that fire is here to do • South Node in Leo and North Node in Aquarius: your karmic path this lifetime • Why the nodes move backward and how to track them • The Jupiter return and Jupiter through Leo as a season of expansion • Becoming a connector through the North Node in Aquarius • How to give your Leo placements more fire • Leo in love: loyalty, devotion, and the need for boundaries • The Taurus New Moon in the eleventh house • A simple way to start reading your own transits • A journaling practice to focus the energy of expansion Timestamps: 00:03 Meet Kaitee Devilling of Moon Body Soul 04:19 How new moon circles sparked the workbook rituals 06:54 Your South Node and North Node: the karmic path 14:34 Why the nodes move backward and what to track 21:14 The Jupiter return and Jupiter through Leo: maximum expansion 25:48 North Node in Aquarius: becoming a connector 34:52 Giving your Leo placements fire 38:40 Leo in love: loyalty and boundaries 45:16 The Taurus New Moon in the eleventh house 48:16 How to start reading your own transits 55:26 A journaling practice for expansion 56:26 Where to find Kaitee Resources • Follow Kaitee at Moon Body Soul • Find Kaitee on Instagram and join her monthly New Moon Circles • Follow Spirit Daughter on Instagram • Visit the Spirit Daughter Website • Get my book Spirit Daughter • Get your Free Natal Chart • Book a Natal Chart Reading • Try the Moment App for free • Get the Season Workbook See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.
[0:06] Speaker 1: I'm Jill Winteresting aka Spirit Daughter, and today I am
[0:10] Speaker 1: sitting down with Katie Devilling, the founder of Moon Body Soul,
[0:15] Speaker 1: to take a look at her chart and a look
[0:17] Speaker 1: at all of the LEO in her chart. We go
[0:21] Speaker 1: deep into this one and we even talk about how
[0:23] Speaker 1: to understand how the current transits will affect your natal chart.
[0:29] Speaker 1: This is a really fun episode. I can't wait for
[0:31] Speaker 1: you to hear it.
[0:33] Speaker 2: Welcome Katie. So for those of you who.
[0:38] Speaker 1: Don't know, Katie is the founder of Moon Body Soul
[0:42] Speaker 1: and she was also my roommate a very long time ago,
[0:47] Speaker 1: and we used to sit and do New Moon rituals
[0:49] Speaker 1: and so the new Moon rituals that are in the
[0:51] Speaker 1: workbooks were born from Katie and I doing New Moon
[0:55] Speaker 1: circles together, so which we did often and manifested really
[1:02] Speaker 1: cool things, including my husband, which is probably the greatest
[1:09] Speaker 1: thing I've ever manifested. Roach on a new Moon to
[1:13] Speaker 1: a t. I actually reread what I wrote that day.
[1:16] Speaker 1: I was when I was writing my book. I was
[1:18] Speaker 1: like go back and like look, I saw all my
[1:21] Speaker 1: old journals and read it and I was like, oh
[1:22] Speaker 1: my gosh, I wrote this person into existence, so I'll
[1:27] Speaker 1: never forget that.
[1:30] Speaker 2: So it's really cool.
[1:32] Speaker 1: And I remember Katie I asked me to chart one
[1:34] Speaker 1: day and I drew it because I was like, didn't
[1:38] Speaker 1: even use apps. So I've looked at Katie's chart already
[1:42] Speaker 1: and talked to Katie a lot about her chart. But
[1:46] Speaker 1: we're going to dive into her chart now and some
[1:49] Speaker 1: really cool upcoming things. You have some really cool things
[1:52] Speaker 1: happening this summer. I don't know if you're aware of,
[1:54] Speaker 1: but I want to prepare you for those. Oh yeah,
[1:56] Speaker 1: they're great to be very saving time for you. I
[2:01] Speaker 1: know that you are still in like you know, post
[2:04] Speaker 1: part of motherhood.
[2:06] Speaker 2: Your twins are.
[2:06] Speaker 3: How old there's seventeen months.
[2:09] Speaker 1: There's seventeen months. Yeah, so you're still in that like
[2:12] Speaker 1: new mom Hayes. And there's some stuff this summer and
[2:16] Speaker 1: next year it's gonna like break you out of that.
[2:20] Speaker 3: That's really good.
[2:22] Speaker 2: I can see it.
[2:23] Speaker 1: I'm like as a mom myself, I'm like, I know
[2:25] Speaker 1: that new mom, Like I am just in the trenches
[2:32] Speaker 1: and it's hard to think outside of those trenches. But
[2:35] Speaker 1: there's some things happening for you this summer fall, that
[2:38] Speaker 1: are going to shine, shine some light on you and
[2:42] Speaker 1: kind of bring you out of those those new mommy trenches,
[2:45] Speaker 1: especially twins. It's like double double the trench, double the depth.
[2:54] Speaker 1: But okay, so let's I'll go over briefly because I
[2:57] Speaker 1: always go over with the Big three. But I know
[2:58] Speaker 1: you know a lot about your chart, So if there's
[3:00] Speaker 1: things you want to ask me, I'm gonna let you
[3:03] Speaker 1: kind of like ask me to. So you have your
[3:05] Speaker 1: moon and sun in Leo, so you are Leo Leo
[3:10] Speaker 1: and they're conjunct, and so you were born on a
[3:14] Speaker 1: new moon, so very very appropriate. New moon people are
[3:18] Speaker 1: like starters, they're initiators. They like start things, they think
[3:21] Speaker 1: about things, they bring inspiration to others. And this is
[3:26] Speaker 1: all happening in your third house, which is the house
[3:28] Speaker 1: of communication. And so when you speak, when you communicate,
[3:32] Speaker 1: when you put things out in the world, it's initiating
[3:36] Speaker 1: energy is projects shifts in others. And so that's like
[3:41] Speaker 1: the power not just Leo, but really the new Moon.
[3:44] Speaker 1: And because your new moon energy is in Leo, you
[3:48] Speaker 1: were born on a Leo new moon, and because that
[3:51] Speaker 1: is in your third house, it's like that new moon
[3:54] Speaker 1: energy of leadership, Leo of Fire. Third house communication and
[4:00] Speaker 1: so everything you do, everything you communicate is an initiation
[4:04] Speaker 1: for somebody else. It's an inspiration for somebody else. And
[4:08] Speaker 1: so I think that's like really really powerful about you
[4:12] Speaker 1: and about your chart and just your ability to start things,
[4:17] Speaker 1: to start.
[4:18] Speaker 2: The ball rolling.
[4:19] Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that like we started doing new
[4:22] Speaker 1: Moon circles and now they've like evolved into this like
[4:25] Speaker 1: huge thing which is spirit daughter is testament to your
[4:29] Speaker 1: ability to like get the ball rolling literally, and so
[4:38] Speaker 1: I think that's like a really special part about your chart.
[4:42] Speaker 1: You also have a lot more in Leo. You have
[4:44] Speaker 1: your Jupiter and Leo zero degrees. You have your south
[4:47] Speaker 1: node in Leo. North node is an Aquarius, and you
[4:51] Speaker 1: have your Venus in Leo. Now those are in your
[4:54] Speaker 1: second house, and so that's all about. The second house
[4:58] Speaker 1: is like your resources, your foundation, and your abundance, your
[5:01] Speaker 1: self worth, how your self worth impacts your abundance. And
[5:06] Speaker 1: so with Jupiter there, Jupiter is that planet of expansion,
[5:12] Speaker 1: and so with Jupiter and Leo, you may sell yourself
[5:16] Speaker 1: short when it comes to the spotlight. So whenever I
[5:18] Speaker 1: look at Jupiter, I'm always like, Okay, this is the
[5:21] Speaker 1: part where you're probably selling yourself short, like this is
[5:24] Speaker 1: your max potential you can see in Jupiter. And so
[5:27] Speaker 1: with Jupiter in Leo, it's like that leadership is always
[5:31] Speaker 1: calling you, that spotlight is always calling you. But when
[5:35] Speaker 1: you really get into it, you may sell yourself short.
[5:39] Speaker 1: You may like be like, oh wait, I'm too visible.
[5:41] Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm being too seen. Oh wait, Like I
[5:43] Speaker 1: don't want to do this. These all of the shadows
[5:47] Speaker 1: come up, all the places you need to heal, all
[5:49] Speaker 1: the ways you self sabotage like come up, and so
[5:52] Speaker 1: like part of your journey is to meet that potential
[5:55] Speaker 1: of that Jupiter in Leo, and that will ultimately because
[5:59] Speaker 1: it's the second house, that's what's going to bring you abundance,
[6:03] Speaker 1: that's what's going to allow you to align with your.
[6:04] Speaker 2: Self worth to your fullest potential.
[6:07] Speaker 1: Is to notice like, oh wow, this opportunities at my door.
[6:11] Speaker 1: Am I shrinking back from it? Or am I stepping
[6:14] Speaker 1: into it? If I'm shrinking back? Why that resonates And
[6:19] Speaker 1: then Venus and Leo like, that's your heart, that's how
[6:22] Speaker 1: you love. So you love with the fierceness of a lion.
[6:26] Speaker 1: You you know you have that love. You have that beauty,
[6:30] Speaker 1: you have that affinity towards beautiful things, right, beauty, you know,
[6:35] Speaker 1: and that could be flowers in your living room, that
[6:37] Speaker 1: could be you know, the pictures you hang on the wall.
[6:41] Speaker 2: Like that helps you feel your heart is the beauty in.
[6:46] Speaker 1: Your surroundings, but also like you see the beauty in
[6:50] Speaker 1: everybody from your heart.
[6:52] Speaker 2: That's what that venus and Leo gives you.
[6:54] Speaker 1: And then the South known says, Okay, there's some lower
[6:58] Speaker 1: energies of Leo. How are we detaching from them? And
[7:02] Speaker 1: you know our life path. I remember you asked me this.
[7:04] Speaker 1: I think we were like at arrest. I think we
[7:06] Speaker 1: were a butcher's daughter and you're like, tell me about
[7:08] Speaker 1: the learner knows.
[7:09] Speaker 2: I remember having this conversation with you.
[7:14] Speaker 1: But you know, the Larnos are your karmic path this lifetime.
[7:17] Speaker 1: So you probably were a Leo in a past life
[7:20] Speaker 1: and you probably got some things wrong, and you're here
[7:24] Speaker 1: to kind of write that wrong in a lot of
[7:27] Speaker 1: ways and understand those lower energies, and the lower energies
[7:30] Speaker 1: of Leo, we all know them, are talked about forever,
[7:32] Speaker 1: like being the center of attention but also really doing
[7:36] Speaker 1: things for the sake of somebody else's approval, or doing
[7:40] Speaker 1: things because you need to do this to earn love,
[7:43] Speaker 1: or like I have to be this person to say
[7:44] Speaker 1: these things or I won't be loved. Right, that's a
[7:47] Speaker 1: low energy of Leo, and so you're here this lifetime
[7:50] Speaker 1: to really detach from those and then walk towards your
[7:56] Speaker 1: north node and Aquarius, which is that collective stuf age.
[8:00] Speaker 1: It's like going from me to we in a lot
[8:03] Speaker 1: of ways, and it's in the eighth house, so it's like, okay,
[8:06] Speaker 1: transforming the collective right, being some type of thought leader,
[8:11] Speaker 1: being some type of person who takes that new moon,
[8:15] Speaker 1: that initiation, that fire energy and uses it to change
[8:19] Speaker 1: and shift paradigms in some way to lead, but not
[8:24] Speaker 1: just lead like Leo lead lead aquariusly like Leo's and
[8:27] Speaker 1: Aquaries both leads, right, Aquarians do it a very different way.
[8:31] Speaker 1: They're more of like a thought leader versus like, you know,
[8:35] Speaker 1: a leader of a country or something like that.
[8:38] Speaker 2: You know, but yeah, I think.
[8:41] Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of this, and then you
[8:44] Speaker 1: can't your rising science cancer. So that's how you meet people.
[8:47] Speaker 1: You meet people with this like softness. You've got all
[8:49] Speaker 1: this Leo all this lion. But when you meet people,
[8:54] Speaker 1: they're like, oh, she's soft, Oh she's you know, it's
[8:57] Speaker 1: interesting because your brand is Moonbody Soul and Cancers the Moon,
[9:02] Speaker 1: and so it's like people are first meeting that mother
[9:05] Speaker 1: Moon quality about you, and so they're meeting that softness,
[9:11] Speaker 1: they're meeting that intuition, they're meeting that person who can
[9:14] Speaker 1: nourish somebody and who can nourish themselves and is nourishing
[9:20] Speaker 1: twins right now. But that's how people first meet you,
[9:24] Speaker 1: and then they have to get to know the Leo
[9:26] Speaker 1: lionside of you. It comes out though, because you've got
[9:29] Speaker 1: a lot of Leo. It's coming out. But how does
[9:34] Speaker 1: that sit with you? And how does how do you
[9:36] Speaker 1: think that has kind of like informed your path with
[9:39] Speaker 1: Moon Body Soul and like where you've taken it.
[9:42] Speaker 4: That really resonates a lot of it resonates. I feel
[9:46] Speaker 4: like I will never forget us talking about the nodes
[9:49] Speaker 4: because ever since you taught me about what they were,
[9:52] Speaker 4: I usually ask people about their nodes. They don't know
[9:54] Speaker 4: what they are, and then we look them up and
[9:55] Speaker 4: they're like, WHOA, that's spot on.
[9:57] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[9:57] Speaker 4: I feel like it's like a as known part of
[9:59] Speaker 4: people's chart. Everyone talks about their sun and they're in
[10:01] Speaker 4: the rising. Yeah, yeah, but I feel like with my
[10:04] Speaker 4: north node being Aquarius, it's just such an opposite to
[10:08] Speaker 4: like my leonist. But I don't know, I feel like
[10:12] Speaker 4: maybe that's like, yeah, the challenging part of my journey is.
[10:16] Speaker 1: Leaning out well, I think you know, leon Aquarius are
[10:19] Speaker 1: very similar in a lot of ways. And I always say,
[10:22] Speaker 1: like opposing signs or they're two sides of the same coin.
[10:26] Speaker 2: So again it's like both about leaders.
[10:28] Speaker 1: But Aquarius does it on this collective stage, and Aquarius
[10:33] Speaker 1: does it in the public eye, in the public arena,
[10:36] Speaker 1: and so does Leo. But Aquarius does it in a
[10:40] Speaker 1: way that like shifts paradigms. Like when you want to
[10:42] Speaker 1: think about Aquarius, think about Oprah, right, Oprah is like
[10:46] Speaker 1: she shifts paradigms.
[10:47] Speaker 2: She's shifted paradigms.
[10:48] Speaker 1: She's done it in spotlight, but she's done it in
[10:50] Speaker 1: this way that includes everybody, includes her entire audience, includes
[10:53] Speaker 1: people on the show. Like it reaches so far, right
[10:58] Speaker 1: when Aquarians stand up and lead, it reaches the world,
[11:03] Speaker 1: And so it really is this like global stage and
[11:06] Speaker 1: like so for you it's like thinking about all that
[11:09] Speaker 1: Leo that you have, all that fire that you have,
[11:11] Speaker 1: and how can I give.
[11:13] Speaker 2: It to the collective? Right, And like Leo Leo will really.
[11:17] Speaker 1: Remind us that we're all special. Right, everybody has uniqueness
[11:22] Speaker 1: about them. Everybody has something amazing in their heart. Everybody
[11:26] Speaker 1: has a light that they shine and only they can shine.
[11:31] Speaker 1: And Aquarius says, yes, that's all true, and everybody has
[11:35] Speaker 1: these lights and no light is better than the other,
[11:39] Speaker 1: No light is like that.
[11:41] Speaker 2: They're all different, but they're all equal.
[11:44] Speaker 1: And so aquariums really remind us of that. So it
[11:47] Speaker 1: takes all of that, like when you have all this
[11:50] Speaker 1: Leo or even when you're just aligning with the Leo energy,
[11:52] Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is how I lead. This is
[11:55] Speaker 1: like what's special and unique about me. This is what
[11:58] Speaker 1: makes me who I am.
[12:00] Speaker 2: This is my power.
[12:01] Speaker 1: And Aquarius takes it one step forward and says, okay,
[12:04] Speaker 1: we'll take that and then teach everybody else that they
[12:07] Speaker 1: have a unique power that's different than yours, but it's
[12:11] Speaker 1: no better than yours.
[12:13] Speaker 3: I like God.
[12:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that in a lot of ways, like
[12:17] Speaker 1: when you look at Oprah, you're like, oh yeah, that tracks.
[12:22] Speaker 2: So it's part of your.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Journey this lifetime is to understand, like, Okay, I understand
[12:27] Speaker 1: what my unique power is. I understand my unique voice is.
[12:31] Speaker 1: I understand what makes me me and who I am
[12:34] Speaker 1: in this world and how I'm going to communicate that. Now,
[12:37] Speaker 1: how do I teach other people to recognize that in them?
[12:41] Speaker 1: Not the same thing that's in me, Because we're all
[12:42] Speaker 1: going to have our own uniqueness and our unique power.
[12:45] Speaker 1: But how can I teach them to recognize their unique
[12:48] Speaker 1: power and know that it's just as powerful as mine
[12:51] Speaker 1: and which is not powerful than anybody else's. We'll be
[12:55] Speaker 1: right back after a quick break.
[13:04] Speaker 4: I feel like just like a couple. Actually, right before
[13:07] Speaker 4: I had the twins, I changed my tagline on Instagram
[13:09] Speaker 4: to helping you feel like your beautiful self and that
[13:12] Speaker 4: like ties that in beautifully.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does, it does.
[13:16] Speaker 1: I remember walking into of Apostana Hall and there was
[13:22] Speaker 1: like a quote of there that was just like everybody
[13:26] Speaker 1: is somebody and everybody is nobody, and its just like
[13:31] Speaker 1: kind of ties that, you know, like we're all somebody
[13:35] Speaker 1: and we're all nobody, you know at the end of
[13:37] Speaker 1: the day. And that's like a very aquarian statement and
[13:42] Speaker 1: Aquariums is like the sign of the future, and so
[13:45] Speaker 1: it's like teaching us how to evolve in a way
[13:49] Speaker 1: in the collective and society that is about the future,
[13:53] Speaker 1: and it's about the future where you know, everybody somebody
[13:57] Speaker 1: and those somebody's nobody's more sortant than anybody else, you know,
[14:01] Speaker 1: but everybody somebody, and everybody has uniqueness and a gift
[14:04] Speaker 1: to them.
[14:05] Speaker 2: And aquarium suns really understand that you with.
[14:08] Speaker 1: Your North node and Aquarius is like your journey this
[14:11] Speaker 1: lifetime is to unravel that and unpack that and understand
[14:14] Speaker 1: what that means. Fun fact, you're going into a nodal return.
[14:20] Speaker 2: Yes, now that we're on the.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Notes, I'm gonna say it, but since we're talking so
[14:24] Speaker 1: much about the notes. On July twenty six, the north
[14:29] Speaker 1: node moves into Aquarius, the South node moves into Leo.
[14:33] Speaker 2: So right now they're in Pisces and Virgo.
[14:34] Speaker 1: They always move backwards, and so you are going through
[14:38] Speaker 1: a notdal return, which happens every eighteen and a half years.
[14:42] Speaker 1: It lasts for eighteen months, so it'll be the rest
[14:44] Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six and then all of twenty twenty
[14:47] Speaker 1: seven for you, and so this will be a really,
[14:51] Speaker 1: really important time for you to make leaps from all
[14:57] Speaker 1: that leoness and that south node Leo will conjunct all
[15:01] Speaker 1: of your Leo placements over the next eighteen months, and
[15:04] Speaker 1: so it will shine a light on anywhere you've been
[15:08] Speaker 1: attached to the lower energies of your Leo placements. So
[15:12] Speaker 1: anywhere you've been doing things for the approval of others
[15:16] Speaker 1: and not for yourself. Anywhere you haven't been following your
[15:19] Speaker 1: own heart anywhere, or you've been doing things because you
[15:22] Speaker 1: think that's what you need to earn love.
[15:24] Speaker 2: Anywhere you've been betraying yourself and your heart and who
[15:28] Speaker 2: you really are. Anywhere you've been giving your power away
[15:32] Speaker 2: to somebody else.
[15:33] Speaker 1: It's going to shine a spotlight on all of that,
[15:36] Speaker 1: and then it's going to say, Okay, how are we
[15:38] Speaker 1: going to make quantum leaps towards understanding this Aquarius North node,
[15:44] Speaker 1: which happens to be in the eighth house, which is
[15:46] Speaker 1: just as mysterious as Aquarius itself, because eighth House is
[15:49] Speaker 1: like transformations, cycles of life, death, rebirth, like what are
[15:54] Speaker 1: we doing, where are we going, where are we headed?
[15:57] Speaker 1: How are we burning it down and rising again?
[16:00] Speaker 2: Right?
[16:00] Speaker 1: That's all eighth house, and so it's this time for
[16:03] Speaker 1: you to really understand, Okay, what am I bringing to
[16:07] Speaker 1: the collective?
[16:08] Speaker 2: What am I doing?
[16:09] Speaker 1: How am I bringing my heart and those higher energies
[16:12] Speaker 1: of Leo to others in a way that helps shape
[16:17] Speaker 1: the society, that helps shape paradigms, that helps shift things,
[16:22] Speaker 1: transform things. And so that is happening eight You've at
[16:27] Speaker 1: eighteen months starting in July of that.
[16:31] Speaker 3: If it provides me, like any clarity, I'm like, so now.
[16:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, it will provide you clarity.
[16:37] Speaker 1: Like I said, you have those placements in you have
[16:40] Speaker 1: five placements in LEO. So it's going to shine a lights.
[16:43] Speaker 1: So some of the clarity might not be comfortable.
[16:46] Speaker 2: It might be like, oh my.
[16:48] Speaker 1: Gosh, it's get and I you know, I would track
[16:51] Speaker 1: the south note if I were, you track it going
[16:55] Speaker 1: conjuncting all of your LEO placements, Like it'll first conjunct
[16:58] Speaker 1: Jupiter at zero degrees. You know, Jupiter at zero degree,
[17:01] Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the first it's first stop. And
[17:03] Speaker 1: so it's going to go, Okay, how are you playing small?
[17:06] Speaker 1: How are you not expanding in your full potential? How
[17:09] Speaker 1: are you selling yourself short? Right, it's going to go
[17:12] Speaker 1: through each one. It's gonna you know, hit all of them.
[17:15] Speaker 1: It'll conjunct yourself. No, it'll go okay, how are you
[17:18] Speaker 1: clinging onto your comfort zones? How are you clinging onto
[17:22] Speaker 1: things you know don't serve you just because they're comfortable.
[17:25] Speaker 1: How are you clinging onto old habits that may have
[17:28] Speaker 1: worked in childhood but don't work anymore? Like, where are
[17:32] Speaker 1: you leaning into things that like help you survive and
[17:34] Speaker 1: not thrive because they're comfortable? And then it'll conjuncture venus
[17:41] Speaker 1: and it'll say, okay, like, how are you leading from
[17:45] Speaker 1: your heart with love? Where are you betraying yourself?
[17:49] Speaker 2: Right?
[17:49] Speaker 1: Where are you betraying your heart? Where are you betraying
[17:52] Speaker 1: what you love about yourself?
[17:54] Speaker 2: How? Where are you betraying?
[17:56] Speaker 1: Like how you're showing up for yourself in the frequency
[17:59] Speaker 1: of love? And then later on, because your moon is
[18:03] Speaker 1: at twenty four degrees and sun's at twenty seven, so
[18:05] Speaker 1: this will come closer to the end of that eighteen months,
[18:09] Speaker 1: it will conjunct your moon and sun and it will say, Okay,
[18:13] Speaker 1: what's going on emotionally here? What do you need to
[18:16] Speaker 1: feel emotionally fulfilled? Are you giving yourself that in the
[18:19] Speaker 1: most authentic way possible. And then it'll conjunct your son
[18:24] Speaker 1: the south node, and it'll say, Okay, how's your identity,
[18:27] Speaker 1: how's your core?
[18:28] Speaker 2: Are you living up to who you want to be?
[18:31] Speaker 2: Where are you.
[18:32] Speaker 1: Again betraying yourself? Where are you not owning your power?
[18:35] Speaker 1: Where are you giving your power away? Where are you
[18:39] Speaker 1: doing things just because you feel like that's what you
[18:41] Speaker 1: have to do, and so the things that you want
[18:44] Speaker 1: to do, so that will all be really powerful and
[18:48] Speaker 1: that will all feed into you going towards understanding integrating
[18:54] Speaker 1: that North node in Aquarius. So each of those five
[18:59] Speaker 1: con junks I just talked about, and this is what's
[19:03] Speaker 1: great about the South node.
[19:04] Speaker 2: Anybody can do this.
[19:05] Speaker 1: You watch the South note and you say, okay, what
[19:07] Speaker 1: is it hitting in my chart? And what is it
[19:10] Speaker 1: shining a light on. It's always shining a light light
[19:13] Speaker 1: on the lower energies that you need to release, that
[19:16] Speaker 1: you need to understand to reach for the higher energies
[19:19] Speaker 1: in your life and for you, your higher energies are going
[19:23] Speaker 1: to be Inaquarius. It's like, okay, how can I release
[19:26] Speaker 1: and let go of all these things that's going to
[19:28] Speaker 1: shine light on to understand my place in the collective
[19:32] Speaker 1: and what I'm offering, and so eighth hous is transformation.
[19:37] Speaker 1: So it's like you're offering the collective some type of
[19:40] Speaker 1: transformation on a larger scale that shifts paradigms.
[19:44] Speaker 2: What does that mean to you?
[19:47] Speaker 1: That answer will relieve its really you know, that answer
[19:50] Speaker 1: will come across and will reveal itself as your south
[19:55] Speaker 1: as the south node hits all of these placements in Leo.
[20:00] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good luck you call me.
[20:07] Speaker 2: That's why I was like, you're about to.
[20:08] Speaker 1: Break out of that new mommy Hayes, you know, and
[20:15] Speaker 1: it's and that's what's gonna happen. It's like, you know,
[20:17] Speaker 1: as kids get a little older, they get a little
[20:19] Speaker 1: bit more independent. You don't have to be like so
[20:22] Speaker 1: hyper vigilant on them, like falling down the steps and
[20:25] Speaker 1: you're in that phase where like I call it suicide
[20:27] Speaker 1: watch or they're just like, oh my gosh, they could
[20:29] Speaker 1: like fought on the steps, so they could do this,
[20:31] Speaker 1: they could do that, or like stick their finger to
[20:33] Speaker 1: a light.
[20:33] Speaker 2: Suck like it's so hard that because they're walking.
[20:37] Speaker 1: You know, and then they're like, wow, it was a
[20:39] Speaker 1: lot easier when they were newborns and they couldn't move.
[20:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, you could just like walk away from the battle blanket.
[20:46] Speaker 2: Now yeah, now it's like it's hard. You're in like
[20:49] Speaker 2: the really hard stage. But you know you'll eventually like
[20:53] Speaker 2: kind of come out of that and you'll be able
[20:54] Speaker 2: to like trust them more to keep themselves alive.
[21:00] Speaker 1: And you know, their schedules will kind of like solidify,
[21:03] Speaker 1: and you'll be able to focus like more on you
[21:06] Speaker 1: and what you're putting out into the world to a
[21:09] Speaker 1: greater degree. I see that coming for you.
[21:13] Speaker 2: You're also about to go through.
[21:14] Speaker 1: Jupiter return at the same time, okay, which is like
[21:17] Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the world. So Jupiter returns happen
[21:24] Speaker 1: every twelve years. That's when Jupiter returns to where it was.
[21:28] Speaker 1: This will hit right when it enters Leo. It enters
[21:31] Speaker 1: Leo June twenty ninth, and so that will officially start
[21:35] Speaker 1: your Jupiter return, which will go for a year, but
[21:38] Speaker 1: you'll feel it right there because your Jupiter's is zero degrees.
[21:42] Speaker 1: So like right end of June July, you're gonna be like, whoa,
[21:45] Speaker 1: what is happening?
[21:47] Speaker 2: Expansion?
[21:48] Speaker 1: This is like maximum expansion for you, for anybody, anybody
[21:53] Speaker 1: going through Jupiter return anybody with Jupiter and Leo. They
[21:55] Speaker 1: are about to go through Jupiter return and so this
[21:58] Speaker 1: is the time of your life and like everything's going
[22:00] Speaker 1: to expand. Everything that's bigger, and so you just need
[22:03] Speaker 1: to decide where do I want to direct this energy
[22:06] Speaker 1: of expansion. Do I want to direct it to my
[22:09] Speaker 1: home and family? And do I want to direct it
[22:10] Speaker 1: to my career? Do I want to direct it to
[22:14] Speaker 1: a new project? Where do I want to direct this expansion?
[22:17] Speaker 1: Because it's coming, You're going to expand one or the other.
[22:24] Speaker 1: You might get pregnant again, so be careful if you
[22:30] Speaker 1: want more kids, that's also expansion. I don't think I
[22:34] Speaker 1: want to physically expand the yeah, exactly, So like, get clearer,
[22:39] Speaker 1: you know the expansion is coming.
[22:40] Speaker 2: Get clear on how you want to expand.
[22:49] Speaker 1: Maybe you want to expand MyoD, body soul into the
[22:52] Speaker 1: next level, you know.
[22:55] Speaker 2: So what offerings have you been doing with me and
[22:57] Speaker 2: body soul lately?
[22:59] Speaker 3: I mean it has.
[23:00] Speaker 4: Been totally just on the side any moment I have
[23:04] Speaker 4: all my attention has been with the babies full time.
[23:07] Speaker 4: But I have been doing new in circles every month
[23:09] Speaker 4: at least this year. I have yeah, and I'm really
[23:13] Speaker 4: enjoying those. They're still virtual, but I would love to
[23:16] Speaker 4: do more in person things, maybe meet people here in
[23:18] Speaker 4: Kansas City. But other than that, like I have not created,
[23:23] Speaker 4: I haven't died anything. I didn't even start at Dieguard
[23:26] Speaker 4: and like I haven't done much of anything. I haven't
[23:29] Speaker 4: thought of podcasting again, like I've just everything's kind of
[23:33] Speaker 4: been paused besides the new in circles.
[23:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I was started thinking about prepping for
[23:40] Speaker 1: this and just starting to think about, Okay, how do
[23:43] Speaker 1: I want to expand? And like I said, it's going
[23:44] Speaker 1: to hit hard because it'll you know, you're Jupiter's at
[23:49] Speaker 1: zero degree, so right when it enters Leo, you're going
[23:52] Speaker 1: to feel it.
[23:52] Speaker 2: But you have twelve months to really work with the energy.
[23:55] Speaker 1: And as Jupiter goes through Leo, just like the South
[23:59] Speaker 1: node goes through the Jupiter is going to hit all
[24:01] Speaker 1: your other placements. So it's going to expand your South Node,
[24:05] Speaker 1: it's going to help you understand what you need to
[24:07] Speaker 1: let go of. Is going to hit your Venus. It's
[24:09] Speaker 1: going to help you understand and expand your heart. And
[24:12] Speaker 1: then towards the end of the transit, it will hit
[24:14] Speaker 1: your Moon and Sun, and because they're conjunct, it's going
[24:18] Speaker 1: to expand what you're ready to communicate third House, what
[24:22] Speaker 1: you're ready to start that new moon energy and really
[24:25] Speaker 1: lead from. And so you might not get the answer
[24:29] Speaker 1: of where and how you're expanding until Jupiter hits that
[24:34] Speaker 1: moon and sun in Leo, which will be towards the end.
[24:37] Speaker 1: So we're talking, you know, mid twenty twenty seven, like
[24:40] Speaker 1: May June twenty twenty seven. But I would start thinking
[24:44] Speaker 1: about it. I would start journaling about it, planting some seeds.
[24:48] Speaker 1: It's my homework for you do some journaling about how
[24:51] Speaker 1: you want to expand. And you don't have to have
[24:54] Speaker 1: the answer right now. But I would just start to
[24:57] Speaker 1: think about it and think about Okay, like do I
[24:59] Speaker 1: want to to expand my diegarden? Do I want to
[25:02] Speaker 1: expand moon body soul? Do I want to expand moon
[25:05] Speaker 1: circles in person? You know, maybe it's something completely different.
[25:11] Speaker 1: You know, the moon circles speak to Aquarius, right, that's
[25:14] Speaker 1: that's the collective. Moon circles are Aquarian, definitely, But it
[25:19] Speaker 1: might be something different, you know, it might be something
[25:23] Speaker 1: that feeds into this Aquarius collective leadership in a different way.
[25:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, I've started hosting mom walks here as well, which
[25:33] Speaker 4: is like totally not Moon Body Soul related at all.
[25:35] Speaker 3: It's just getting moms together in my community.
[25:38] Speaker 2: That's fun. Yeah, just connecting with.
[25:43] Speaker 3: Other other moms in the area and like holding event
[25:46] Speaker 3: some things.
[25:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're a connector.
[25:48] Speaker 1: That North Non and Aquarius is going to make you
[25:51] Speaker 1: a connector. It's going to say, okay, let's let's connect
[25:55] Speaker 1: some things. Let's connect some some people. You also have
[26:00] Speaker 1: a really great capacity to heal, and so that healing
[26:04] Speaker 1: may come out and all this too. You have chiron
[26:07] Speaker 1: in cancer in your first house. So first house is identity,
[26:12] Speaker 1: and chiron is where we see our deepest wound, and
[26:15] Speaker 1: so in cancer in the first house, your wounds are
[26:20] Speaker 1: seen by everybody. And so because they're seen, you're healing
[26:24] Speaker 1: is also seen. And so that healing and showing people
[26:29] Speaker 1: how you're healing and how you're nourishing yourself through healing.
[26:32] Speaker 1: Isn't this the concept of moon body soul now that
[26:34] Speaker 1: I'm saying it, So you know how you're how you're healing,
[26:43] Speaker 1: and how you're nourishing yourself through healing. For those of
[26:45] Speaker 1: you who don't know Moon Body's salts, it's bath bombs,
[26:48] Speaker 1: a lot of bath products, a lot of things that
[26:50] Speaker 1: can nourish you in a very healthy and organic way.
[26:54] Speaker 2: But how you can nourish yourself through healing.
[26:57] Speaker 1: That's part of your identity and showing peace people how
[27:01] Speaker 1: you're using those products, but also how you're nourishing yourself
[27:06] Speaker 1: through your own healing, because that's one of thing about Chiron,
[27:08] Speaker 1: especially in the first house, when you show your healing,
[27:11] Speaker 1: when you let people see how you're healing, it inspires them,
[27:16] Speaker 1: it teaches them how to heal. And so that's a
[27:19] Speaker 1: big part of your journey is saying, hey, I'm not perfect,
[27:23] Speaker 1: I need healing, I need to work on this, I
[27:25] Speaker 1: need to work on that, which I think you're very
[27:27] Speaker 1: open with, you know, on your Instagram, or at least
[27:30] Speaker 1: you you know you were. I think you've been, you
[27:32] Speaker 1: know again that new mommy. Maybe you need something a
[27:35] Speaker 1: blog about how to heal from having twins.
[27:38] Speaker 4: I haven't learned anything about my very very traumatic birth
[27:43] Speaker 4: story or anything like that because I do feel like
[27:45] Speaker 4: i'm still processing it. But yeah, that's something I've been
[27:47] Speaker 4: considering sharing as well.
[27:49] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think things like that, and
[27:51] Speaker 2: I also just.
[27:51] Speaker 1: Think, you know, we we tend to forget how hard
[27:56] Speaker 1: it is to become a mother, especially, you know, we
[28:01] Speaker 1: do like everybody's like when you have a newborn, everybody's like, oh,
[28:05] Speaker 1: there's like a so much compassion, so much understanding, but
[28:08] Speaker 1: it's really hard, Like it's seventeen eighteen months. When you're like,
[28:10] Speaker 1: I have seventeen month old twins, I'm like.
[28:12] Speaker 2: Oh, go, that's that's hard. That's hard.
[28:17] Speaker 1: I'd rather go back to newborn than seventeen months. And so,
[28:22] Speaker 1: but then society, like most people are like expected to
[28:25] Speaker 1: be fully back at work. You're supposed to be fully
[28:28] Speaker 1: back at it, Like society doesn't really give the kind
[28:31] Speaker 1: of nourishment and care to mothers of seventeen month olds
[28:34] Speaker 1: as it does to like mothers of two months olds.
[28:37] Speaker 1: So I think that there is you know, there's even
[28:40] Speaker 1: that kind of healing. But you know that chiron and
[28:43] Speaker 1: cancer again, it's like mothering yourself. It's like, how can
[28:46] Speaker 1: you mother and nourish yourself and heal it in that
[28:50] Speaker 1: process inspire others to he'll be an example of healing
[28:54] Speaker 1: to others. And I think that was one of the
[28:56] Speaker 1: driving forces of Moon body soul, and it's how it began,
[29:01] Speaker 1: which I remember what it began because we were living together.
[29:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just gotten diagnosed with hockey mootoves thyroid condition,
[29:09] Speaker 4: and so I was just like uphalling all of my
[29:11] Speaker 4: products and things I put on my body, and I realized,
[29:14] Speaker 4: like my baths were very toxic. So that's how it
[29:17] Speaker 4: all started. Was, Yeah, I create that all natural bath bomb,
[29:20] Speaker 4: which I don't even make the bath bombs anymore. I
[29:22] Speaker 4: make soaks. Okay, I'm even thinking of maybe like up
[29:25] Speaker 4: leveling those and doing more like herbal infusions and like
[29:28] Speaker 4: confusing it all myself instead of doing the products I've
[29:32] Speaker 4: had in the past.
[29:32] Speaker 3: Like maybe I'll come up with the whole new line.
[29:34] Speaker 3: I don't know. I need clarity.
[29:37] Speaker 1: Well, I would set some time aside. I know it's hard,
[29:40] Speaker 1: but I would set even ten minutes aside to journal
[29:42] Speaker 1: every day for you, for yourself. Find the to carve
[29:46] Speaker 1: out the time and dedicate yourself to that and just
[29:50] Speaker 1: journal about how do I want to expand, what do
[29:52] Speaker 1: I want?
[29:53] Speaker 2: What do I want to give to the collective? Next?
[29:56] Speaker 2: What do I want to do with all my leo,
[30:00] Speaker 2: my fire?
[30:01] Speaker 1: You know, where do I want to How do I
[30:03] Speaker 1: want to give this to others, and now a quick
[30:06] Speaker 1: word from our wonderful sponsors, and understand, I think that
[30:15] Speaker 1: this piece of you being born under a new moon
[30:17] Speaker 1: is really really important and starting new things and inspiring
[30:24] Speaker 1: others to start new things. I think that that is
[30:29] Speaker 1: is very you know, very important, and you know it
[30:32] Speaker 1: all links to the moon and your emotions. You know,
[30:36] Speaker 1: you have even your Sun, which is core to your personality,
[30:39] Speaker 1: you get your moon on top of and then you
[30:42] Speaker 1: have cancer ruling your chart, and so your chart ruler
[30:46] Speaker 1: is the moon. And so there's like this deep intuition
[30:50] Speaker 1: about you that shows up everywhere that we look at
[30:53] Speaker 1: in your chart. Is this like like a strong intuition.
[30:57] Speaker 1: And so I think if you just give yourself like
[30:59] Speaker 1: ten minutes day a journal, you'll tap into that intuition
[31:02] Speaker 1: and it will tell you, Okay, this is where I
[31:04] Speaker 1: want to expand, this is what I want to do next,
[31:07] Speaker 1: this is where I'm going, This is where I want
[31:10] Speaker 1: to go. And it may take months to get to
[31:13] Speaker 1: some of the answers, but I would give yourself that container.
[31:18] Speaker 4: I have to share with you that, uh, I thought
[31:21] Speaker 4: the new moon attention that I wanted to get pregnant
[31:23] Speaker 4: the next new Moon. I found out I was pregnant
[31:25] Speaker 4: on the new Moon. The next new moon, I found
[31:28] Speaker 4: out it was plann and then I had the babies
[31:31] Speaker 4: on a new Moon and the new moon before that,
[31:32] Speaker 4: I went into labor and I didn't have them, but
[31:35] Speaker 4: I was in labor for that entire month.
[31:36] Speaker 2: Wow, so they're new they're new Moon babies too.
[31:39] Speaker 3: The double scorpios.
[31:43] Speaker 1: I think I texted you about that, born on the
[31:46] Speaker 1: scorpio new moon. Yep, that's gonna be interesting. But Bentley's
[31:51] Speaker 1: a Scorpio too, right, Yep. That will help.
[31:54] Speaker 2: That will help, That will help.
[31:59] Speaker 1: But you'll have to just notice whenever Leo's have scorpios,
[32:05] Speaker 1: you know, it squares right, Scorpio squares Leo. And so
[32:08] Speaker 1: if you're a Leo's son with a Scorpio son child,
[32:12] Speaker 1: then you just have to be careful of power struggles,
[32:15] Speaker 1: especially later in life teenage yeers. You know, you just
[32:20] Speaker 1: have to be really careful because you've got that square,
[32:22] Speaker 1: that tension dynamic of you know, who who's the leader here?
[32:27] Speaker 2: You know, both Scorpio and Leo want to lead in
[32:30] Speaker 2: different ways, right, Scorpios.
[32:32] Speaker 1: Like I'm going to lead, I'm gonna lead alone and
[32:35] Speaker 1: I don't need you, I don't need anybody. I don't
[32:40] Speaker 1: need anybody to tell me what to do. I'm gonna
[32:42] Speaker 1: figure it out, and oftentimes they do. But that can
[32:45] Speaker 1: be hard. As you know, a parent of a scorpio,
[32:48] Speaker 1: so you know it's gonna be interesting. Bentley will probably
[32:52] Speaker 1: get it to a t because he's a Scorpio. So
[32:55] Speaker 1: but I'm sure you have that dynamic that shows up
[32:57] Speaker 1: with Bentley too.
[32:59] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[33:00] Speaker 4: Like the babies are already, Like, it's crazy how headstrong
[33:04] Speaker 4: they already are.
[33:11] Speaker 2: We already know what are their notes they were born.
[33:14] Speaker 3: I should look.
[33:15] Speaker 4: The one thing I know for sure is that they
[33:16] Speaker 4: have different raising signs because they were born an hour
[33:18] Speaker 4: and a half apart.
[33:20] Speaker 2: Wow, oh wow, that's interesting.
[33:22] Speaker 3: So and he's a Pisces rising.
[33:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were born October. They probably have a
[33:30] Speaker 1: Libra November. They probably are aries Libra. It's probably right
[33:34] Speaker 1: before it shifted to pis Yeah. Yeah, I would have
[33:40] Speaker 1: to look. But so they would be on a journey
[33:43] Speaker 1: to leave behind the lower energies of Libra, which is
[33:47] Speaker 1: like people pleasing and reached towards the higher energies of aries,
[33:53] Speaker 1: which is all about putting putting themselves first, which will
[33:56] Speaker 1: be an interesting dynamic with Scorpio.
[34:00] Speaker 2: I can't wait to see this one above.
[34:02] Speaker 1: But I think that's fascinating that they're twins and they
[34:04] Speaker 1: have almost the same exact everything's rising.
[34:07] Speaker 2: That could be like a case study in astrology. I
[34:12] Speaker 2: might have to.
[34:12] Speaker 1: Follow this, follow this case for a while. What happens
[34:16] Speaker 1: when everything in a chart is exact except the rising.
[34:21] Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like the other planets shifted a
[34:23] Speaker 1: little bit in that hour, but not a ton. So
[34:27] Speaker 1: it's really really, really cool. And do you know that
[34:32] Speaker 1: your Sun and moon square your Mars and Tarus.
[34:36] Speaker 3: I didn't.
[34:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's.
[34:39] Speaker 1: That's you know, fixed signs, right, and so they're squaring.
[34:43] Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of tension. Your Mars is
[34:45] Speaker 1: at twenty four degrees Tarus in the eleventh house.
[34:49] Speaker 2: So this tension can.
[34:52] Speaker 1: Really give your your leonis some fire. It can actually
[34:58] Speaker 1: give it even more fire. It can kind of become
[35:00] Speaker 1: like an engine. So in Tarus, Mars is a little softened, right,
[35:05] Speaker 1: especially in the eleventh house. But that's your drive, that's your determination,
[35:09] Speaker 1: that's like, this is what I love to do, and
[35:11] Speaker 1: so with Tarus that's you know, kind of speaks to
[35:15] Speaker 1: some comforts, some comforts around you, even like the textiles
[35:20] Speaker 1: that you that's so so taris like growing a what
[35:23] Speaker 1: did you call it, a digarden, a die garden. Growing
[35:26] Speaker 1: a die garden is a very tarist statement. It will,
[35:36] Speaker 1: it will, and it will also help you connect with
[35:38] Speaker 1: that eleventh house, which is community, which will tie into
[35:40] Speaker 1: the Aquarius north node. And so that's why I'm bringing
[35:44] Speaker 1: it up that Mars is a lot of times when
[35:47] Speaker 1: we feel like we're a little underwater or like in
[35:49] Speaker 1: a bit of a fog, we go to our Mars
[35:51] Speaker 1: because the Mars like burns off the fog, It burns
[35:54] Speaker 1: off the haze, it burns off whatever emotions are coming
[35:58] Speaker 1: up that we feel like are swallowing us whole. Your
[36:00] Speaker 1: Mars like taps you into like what you're willing to
[36:03] Speaker 1: fight for, and it taps you right into your passion
[36:06] Speaker 1: and your motivations, like when we want to figure out,
[36:08] Speaker 1: like how do I get up in the morning with
[36:10] Speaker 1: like spunk and excited about the day, Like we go
[36:13] Speaker 1: to the Mars, and your Mars is in Tarus, which
[36:16] Speaker 1: Tarus is all about. I mean, it can be about gardening,
[36:18] Speaker 1: can be about your voice, like you know, we think
[36:20] Speaker 1: about tarus as like musicians. It can be you know
[36:24] Speaker 1: about your home and your surroundings and what makes you
[36:28] Speaker 1: like feel like you're in a safe container and a
[36:31] Speaker 1: comfortable container. But when you said like diegarden, that's that's
[36:36] Speaker 1: very taris because tarus like also brings up like textiles
[36:41] Speaker 1: and like practical things you can hold with your hands. Right,
[36:43] Speaker 1: we think of tarus and like what am I making
[36:45] Speaker 1: with my hands? And so for you and you can
[36:49] Speaker 1: like make things with your hands that connects you to
[36:51] Speaker 1: your body and connects you to nature, Like that's going
[36:54] Speaker 1: to make.
[36:55] Speaker 2: You feel alive in life.
[36:57] Speaker 1: That's going to remind you of your inner fire, remind
[37:00] Speaker 1: you of your passion, and it's in the eleventh house,
[37:04] Speaker 1: which is also going to connect you to community. Maybe
[37:08] Speaker 1: that's what you could do with your mom's on a walk,
[37:10] Speaker 1: create a create gardening. Yeah, moms who walk and garden.
[37:17] Speaker 1: But even like mom's walking, like walking nature, moving the body,
[37:22] Speaker 1: getting into the body. That's all Taurus collective, right, You're
[37:26] Speaker 1: bringing the collective together. And so that's like something you
[37:30] Speaker 1: can start and initiate that will help bring out this
[37:33] Speaker 1: Mars in you and help bring out your inner fire
[37:36] Speaker 1: and your passion for for what.
[37:39] Speaker 2: You love in life like that.
[37:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's squares, you know, it's squaring that new
[37:47] Speaker 1: moon energy that you carry the Sun and Moon and Leo.
[37:50] Speaker 1: But it really can help like drive your ambition. It
[37:53] Speaker 1: really can challenge that because there's you know that Leo
[37:57] Speaker 1: and Moon fall below the horizon. They're in the third house.
[38:00] Speaker 1: So even though they're in the House of Communication and
[38:04] Speaker 1: they want to communicate, they also want to stay buried.
[38:07] Speaker 1: And so that Mars and Tars in the eleventh house
[38:09] Speaker 1: is going to challenge that Leo communication energy to come
[38:13] Speaker 1: out and be seen. All right, what else do we
[38:17] Speaker 1: have here? Let's look at I like to look at
[38:20] Speaker 1: where your Saturn is. Oh, your saturn, because this is
[38:24] Speaker 1: where you feel most responsible in life. So your Saturn
[38:29] Speaker 1: is in Capricorn, in your seventh house.
[38:31] Speaker 2: So you're very committed in relationships if you have Saturn
[38:38] Speaker 2: in the seventh especially in Capricorn.
[38:40] Speaker 1: Like very committed, very loyal, very you know, you thrive
[38:46] Speaker 1: in relationships. They're really really important to you. You have
[38:49] Speaker 1: a responsibility to show up in relationships and to create
[38:53] Speaker 1: relationships that not just serve you, has served the other person.
[38:58] Speaker 1: And from what I know, about you. You've been in
[38:59] Speaker 1: a commit relationship for a very long time.
[39:02] Speaker 4: So with a Scorpio, you know we're going on thirteen years, yeah.
[39:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen years, yeah yeah, and that's you know, the
[39:16] Speaker 1: relationships of all kinds are really really important to you,
[39:19] Speaker 1: and you have a commitment to relationships.
[39:22] Speaker 2: And you know, with Capricorn driving.
[39:23] Speaker 1: The ship, you like some structure, you like some clarity,
[39:26] Speaker 1: you like some boundaries in your relationship.
[39:28] Speaker 2: That's important for you.
[39:30] Speaker 1: And if your relationships don't have boundaries, they're going to
[39:33] Speaker 1: need them. Right if we have Capricorn and you know,
[39:36] Speaker 1: governing the seventh like, relationships need boundaries, they need structure,
[39:41] Speaker 1: and you with the Saturn there have that responsibility to
[39:44] Speaker 1: do that. And then you also have your neptune in
[39:48] Speaker 1: Capricorn and you're Uranus in Capricorn as well, so you
[39:52] Speaker 1: have a stellium in Capricorn. Along with all those planets
[39:57] Speaker 1: and Leos, you've got a lot of Leo and a
[39:59] Speaker 1: lot of Capricorn, so you a lot of fire and
[40:03] Speaker 1: you have a lot of structure that can help direct it,
[40:06] Speaker 1: which is really which is nice. You're Saturn, your neptune
[40:10] Speaker 1: Uranus are in Capricorn. They're all retrograde as well, so
[40:15] Speaker 1: that retrograde energy kind of brings the energy inward, and
[40:20] Speaker 1: so Saturn kind of brings this seriousness responsibility to relationships.
[40:26] Speaker 1: Neptune can kind of like create these visions and like
[40:29] Speaker 1: your ideal, like what is your ideal relationship? Like you
[40:33] Speaker 1: probably have a lot of ideas about your ideal relationships,
[40:36] Speaker 1: including your ideal relationships not just with your partner, but
[40:40] Speaker 1: with your kids, with your friends. Like, you have a
[40:42] Speaker 1: lot of visions around what relationships could be and where
[40:46] Speaker 1: you could take them. And so that's important to lean
[40:49] Speaker 1: into those of visions and understand that they're important to
[40:53] Speaker 1: you and your life path and kind of understand that connection.
[40:59] Speaker 1: And then your honest is there and uranis always wants freedom, right,
[41:03] Speaker 1: So there's part of you that is like, all these
[41:05] Speaker 1: structures are in place, and I want to break them all.
[41:09] Speaker 1: I'd like to burn them all down now and shift
[41:13] Speaker 1: and change them. And so just notice like that that
[41:16] Speaker 1: could be a very useful energy. Sometimes it also can
[41:19] Speaker 1: be an energy of sabotage, and so you want to
[41:22] Speaker 1: be aware of when you're breaking down things just for
[41:24] Speaker 1: the sake of breaking them down or burning them down
[41:27] Speaker 1: just for the sake of burning them down, because that
[41:28] Speaker 1: Uranus is restless and needs something to do. Put it towards,
[41:32] Speaker 1: you know, creating something new, breaking some kind of paradigm shift,
[41:36] Speaker 1: you know, creating something with your hands that could be
[41:39] Speaker 1: within the community. Right, because Uranus is connected to Aquarius
[41:43] Speaker 1: and the eleventh House, and so if you find yourself going, oh,
[41:47] Speaker 1: there was all this structure, I want to break it all.
[41:50] Speaker 1: Say oh, that's my Uranus energy speaking. How can I
[41:52] Speaker 1: direct it towards that Mars and Tauris, towards creating something
[41:56] Speaker 1: that fires me up and brings me to my passion,
[41:59] Speaker 1: or direct it towards that Aquarius North note, like doing
[42:02] Speaker 1: something for the collective and on a larger scale that
[42:05] Speaker 1: helps facilitate transformations at eighth House. Seeing it's true, Yeah, what.
[42:15] Speaker 2: Are you burning down?
[42:15] Speaker 4: Now?
[42:19] Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break. Do you
[42:29] Speaker 1: have any other questions about your chart? Because I know
[42:31] Speaker 1: you know a lot about your charts.
[42:32] Speaker 2: There's anything that like you've been wanting to know about.
[42:38] Speaker 4: I just I so whenever I like look at the
[42:40] Speaker 4: birth chart, I see it like just as the birth chart.
[42:42] Speaker 4: I never understand how things are interacting with what's happening
[42:46] Speaker 4: like right now. So you're talking about like this return
[42:48] Speaker 4: of the nodes. That's really fascinating to me. But I've
[42:51] Speaker 4: never really like understood how you connect things into what's
[42:54] Speaker 4: happening right now.
[42:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what I mean, that's what I love,
[42:58] Speaker 1: love to do, and like when I work with like
[43:02] Speaker 1: private clients through astrological coaching, like that's what we do.
[43:05] Speaker 1: We connect because there's one thing to understand.
[43:08] Speaker 2: You could unpack and.
[43:09] Speaker 1: Talk about your natal chart forever, but it gets really
[43:12] Speaker 1: cool when you start looking at how things impact your
[43:16] Speaker 1: natal chart. So you can even take it as simply
[43:19] Speaker 1: as like looking at the new moon. Like you look
[43:21] Speaker 1: at the new moon coming up, and you say, okay,
[43:24] Speaker 1: where is that hitting my chart? So what house is
[43:27] Speaker 1: it hitting? Is it you know, conjuncting, is it within
[43:30] Speaker 1: like seven degrees of any planet? Is it opposing any placement?
[43:35] Speaker 1: Is it training any placement? And so you start to
[43:39] Speaker 1: you know, you have this wheel that's your chart, and
[43:42] Speaker 1: that's fixed your natal chart. But then you know what's
[43:44] Speaker 1: going on in the current sky, like where Jupiter is,
[43:48] Speaker 1: the where the nodes are they're moving in your chart,
[43:52] Speaker 1: and so you can see like where they're hitting and
[43:55] Speaker 1: so you know, one of the simplest ways is to
[43:57] Speaker 1: understand like even just sun season. It's you know, if
[44:01] Speaker 1: it's Tarus sun season, where's Tarus in my chart? What
[44:05] Speaker 1: planets placements do I have in Tarus? And the sun
[44:09] Speaker 1: is going to move and the sun moves like one
[44:11] Speaker 1: degree a day, so it's really easy to track. Right,
[44:14] Speaker 1: the Sun's going to move through that house one degree
[44:17] Speaker 1: a day, and it's going to activate that house, which
[44:20] Speaker 1: is an area of your life. And then it's also
[44:23] Speaker 1: going to hit anything that you have. So if you
[44:26] Speaker 1: have like Mars for you at twenty four degrees, you know,
[44:31] Speaker 1: twenty four days in the Taris season, you know, the
[44:34] Speaker 1: sun will conjunct your Mars in Tarus and so it
[44:39] Speaker 1: will expand the sun will kind of light up. It
[44:43] Speaker 1: will shine a spotlight on that Mars energy we just
[44:47] Speaker 1: talked about, so you'll feel it more intensely. It will
[44:49] Speaker 1: amplify it, right, the sun amplifies things.
[44:56] Speaker 3: Energy.
[44:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can do that, you know, the simplest
[45:00] Speaker 1: to start with like the sun season, and then you
[45:02] Speaker 1: can do that with the moon.
[45:03] Speaker 2: So you would look at like the new moon.
[45:05] Speaker 1: And new moon and Tarus for instance, which you know,
[45:08] Speaker 1: I think that one's gonna be at like twenty six
[45:10] Speaker 1: degrees or something like that, so that would be very
[45:12] Speaker 1: close to your Mars at twenty four degrees.
[45:14] Speaker 2: So your Mars is going to.
[45:16] Speaker 1: Be involved in that new moon in Tarus in the
[45:20] Speaker 1: eleventh house, which is a great time for you to
[45:23] Speaker 1: do a new moon ceremony. So that's how you start
[45:27] Speaker 1: like planning things. And then like if you were to
[45:30] Speaker 1: ask me, like when should I launch something? Right, because
[45:34] Speaker 1: I get that question a lot, like when do I
[45:35] Speaker 1: launch my website, I would tell you probably when Jupiter
[45:40] Speaker 1: enters Leo and conjuncture Jupiter.
[45:42] Speaker 2: It's zero degrees.
[45:43] Speaker 1: I'd like I would look at the exact day and
[45:46] Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's the day you launch hit published
[45:49] Speaker 1: on the website or whatever you're launching. So you could
[45:52] Speaker 1: you can start to, you know, look at your life
[45:54] Speaker 1: and be like I'm planning this, or I want to
[45:56] Speaker 1: do this, i want to announce this, I want to
[45:58] Speaker 1: have this.
[45:58] Speaker 2: You can even look.
[45:59] Speaker 1: At like you know, having babies, like I'm always asked
[46:02] Speaker 1: about that. Look at what's happening in your fifth house, right,
[46:05] Speaker 1: So when stuff and when Jupiter transits your fifth house, right,
[46:10] Speaker 1: A lot of times I'll see this with people, Like
[46:12] Speaker 1: if somebody listening has Leo in their fifth house and
[46:16] Speaker 1: they want to have a baby, Jupiter expands the fifth house,
[46:20] Speaker 1: which is the house of fertility, and so I would say, well,
[46:23] Speaker 1: Jupiter is entering Leo this summer, it's a great time
[46:25] Speaker 1: to try and have a baby if you have, you know,
[46:28] Speaker 1: Leo governing your fifth house. So that's how it starts
[46:33] Speaker 1: to like really all come together. And I think that's
[46:35] Speaker 1: like the coolest part. And you know, we talk about it.
[46:39] Speaker 1: It's talked a lot about Saturn return, right. Saturn return
[46:41] Speaker 1: is like kind of the most Saturn return happens when
[46:43] Speaker 1: Saturn returns to the place it was in your chart.
[46:46] Speaker 1: But really it's always about like, oh, saturns and aries,
[46:49] Speaker 1: and I have my Saturn and aries, so I'm in
[46:51] Speaker 1: my Saturn return and that means, you know, Saturn's transitting
[46:55] Speaker 1: aries and it's transitting that part of your chart where
[46:57] Speaker 1: your Saturn is. So at some point in that two
[47:00] Speaker 1: and a half year transit, it's going to exact conjuncture Saturn.
[47:04] Speaker 1: And that's when you'll you'll really feel that like, oh,
[47:07] Speaker 1: I've got to make some commitments. I've got to do
[47:10] Speaker 1: some things here, but at any given point, and you know,
[47:15] Speaker 1: and I like to like lay the current astrology over
[47:18] Speaker 1: a natal chart and create you know, that chart, and
[47:21] Speaker 1: you can see what it's aspecting, what it's like squaring
[47:25] Speaker 1: so you can see like, oh, the you know, for instance,
[47:29] Speaker 1: right now, you know.
[47:30] Speaker 2: Pluto's an Aquarius.
[47:31] Speaker 1: So Pluto's going to oppose it already did your Jupiter.
[47:35] Speaker 1: It's going to oppose your self. Note it's going to
[47:37] Speaker 1: oppose your Venus. And eventually, when it gets to the
[47:40] Speaker 1: end of its twenty years in Aquarius, it will oppose
[47:44] Speaker 1: your Moon and Sun because that's all in Leo. And
[47:47] Speaker 1: so if anybody has strong placements in Leo, Pluto moving
[47:51] Speaker 1: through Aquarius is going to oppose transformation. When Pluto opposes something,
[47:56] Speaker 1: it creates deep transformation, usually in a way that kind
[47:59] Speaker 1: of creates a breakthrough. Doesn't feel that great at first,
[48:02] Speaker 1: but ultimately it feels awesome, I find the higher meaning. Right,
[48:06] Speaker 1: So Pluto is going to oppose all of your Leo
[48:09] Speaker 1: placements over the next twenty years, so you can start to.
[48:13] Speaker 2: Like get in even deeper.
[48:16] Speaker 1: But you start with like just the Sun and the
[48:17] Speaker 1: Moon and just knowing where they are, and then looking
[48:20] Speaker 1: at your chart and going, Okay, where is that degree
[48:22] Speaker 1: in my chart? What house is that in? That's going
[48:25] Speaker 1: to be the area of your life it affects. Are
[48:27] Speaker 1: there any planets there? Is it conjuncting any planets? And
[48:31] Speaker 1: I consider conjunction within seven degrees like a seven degree
[48:35] Speaker 1: orb Is it conjuncting anything? And then you go deeper
[48:38] Speaker 1: and go is it opposing?
[48:40] Speaker 2: Is it squaring?
[48:41] Speaker 1: That's going to be tension? Is it trying something? So
[48:45] Speaker 1: you can start really looking at that. But at any
[48:48] Speaker 1: given point, you know, all these planets right now are
[48:52] Speaker 1: somewhere in your chart their land, they're hitting your chart somewhere.
[48:56] Speaker 4: And then those further out planets like Neptune and Pluto,
[49:00] Speaker 4: so those are like more generationally, we have those kind
[49:03] Speaker 4: of in the same spot, not in than the same house,
[49:05] Speaker 4: but in the same yeah sons.
[49:07] Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, because they move really slowly. I mean, Pluto
[49:10] Speaker 1: is in two decades and so you know everybody born
[49:14] Speaker 1: now for the next eighteen years is going to have
[49:16] Speaker 1: plutin Aquarius. Neptune I think is the most interesting. I
[49:19] Speaker 1: actually have a blog somewhere. I think I should find
[49:21] Speaker 1: it because I reference it a lot where you can
[49:24] Speaker 1: actually kind of map Neptune placements with like our typical generations,
[49:29] Speaker 1: so like gen you know, like gen X all has
[49:32] Speaker 1: like Neptune and Sagittarius, you know, and you kind of
[49:36] Speaker 1: can like look at through you can look at it
[49:39] Speaker 1: through the generations like millennials and gen Z, Like I
[49:43] Speaker 1: think gen Z they all have Neptune and Aquarius. And
[49:47] Speaker 1: then you know, the younger kids, like our kids have
[49:49] Speaker 1: you know, they had Neptune and Pisces and now Neptune
[49:52] Speaker 1: has moved into aries and like you can kind of
[49:54] Speaker 1: map the generations like as we think of them in
[49:58] Speaker 1: you know culture two where Neptune is placed because Neptun's
[50:03] Speaker 1: a fourteen Yeah, it's like a fourteen year transit. So
[50:05] Speaker 1: it's super cool and it's really fun to see that,
[50:09] Speaker 1: like I did. I did the whole thing like for
[50:11] Speaker 1: anybody who is alive in this blog years ago, and I.
[50:15] Speaker 2: Was like, this is so cool.
[50:20] Speaker 1: But yeah, they move more slowly and then you know,
[50:22] Speaker 1: Uranus is like a seven to eight year transit. So
[50:25] Speaker 1: that's about to enter Gemini. I think of the airing
[50:28] Speaker 1: of this podcast, it will be in Gemini, and so
[50:30] Speaker 1: that's important, Like look at where your Gemini house is
[50:33] Speaker 1: and Uranus is going to shake things up in that house.
[50:37] Speaker 1: You know, for you, your Gemini is in the twelfth house.
[50:41] Speaker 1: You get a little bit in your eleventh, but it's
[50:43] Speaker 1: mostly Twelfth House, and so Uranus is going to transit
[50:47] Speaker 1: your twelfth House's We're going to really shake things up
[50:49] Speaker 1: in your spiritual world.
[50:51] Speaker 2: Twelfth house is like.
[50:51] Speaker 1: Spirituality, you're healing, you know how, it's kind of I
[50:55] Speaker 1: always think of it as like going into the cave
[50:57] Speaker 1: and meditating, as like the twelfth House. So like all
[51:00] Speaker 1: of your practices might get completely revamped over the next
[51:04] Speaker 1: seven years as your Honest transits your your twelve house.
[51:08] Speaker 1: But you know, maybe, like somebody has a Gemini in
[51:11] Speaker 1: their second house, your Honest is going to shake things
[51:14] Speaker 1: up in their abundance and maybe finances over the next
[51:17] Speaker 1: seven years. And so it's always good to know, especially
[51:21] Speaker 1: these major ones like the outer planets that move more
[51:24] Speaker 1: slowly actually have more of an impact on us and
[51:27] Speaker 1: on the collective. Like Mercury, you know, moves through a
[51:31] Speaker 1: sign in like three weeks unless it's retrograde, so it
[51:34] Speaker 1: doesn't have that great of an impact on you know,
[51:37] Speaker 1: our lives or on the collective. But the outer planets
[51:40] Speaker 1: because they move so slowly. Like Jupiter is in a
[51:42] Speaker 1: sign for a year, so we'll have an entire year
[51:45] Speaker 1: of Jupiter and Leo, and so like everybody should look
[51:48] Speaker 1: and see what house is Leo for me?
[51:50] Speaker 2: Do I have any planets there? Because Jupiter is going
[51:52] Speaker 2: to expand that house that area of your life.
[51:55] Speaker 3: Do I have anything in my second house?
[51:58] Speaker 2: Yeah? You have. You have.
[52:01] Speaker 1: Three of those Leo placements because Leo covers your second
[52:05] Speaker 1: house and part of your third. I don't use whole sign,
[52:10] Speaker 1: I use yeah. So you have Jupiter is in your
[52:15] Speaker 1: second house, and so Jupiter is going to expand your
[52:19] Speaker 1: second house before it gets to your third house, which
[52:23] Speaker 1: will be at the end of the year. So it
[52:24] Speaker 1: should expand some abundance and hopefully some finances for you.
[52:28] Speaker 3: That's my question. I feel like abundance for me is like.
[52:30] Speaker 2: A yeah up and down up a down. Yeah.
[52:34] Speaker 1: Well, Jupiter's come in to your second house, so it
[52:36] Speaker 1: should expand your abundance.
[52:39] Speaker 2: But you have to be rooted your self worth. You
[52:41] Speaker 2: have to let go of those.
[52:42] Speaker 1: Lower energies of Leo, and you have to decide how
[52:46] Speaker 1: you want to expand. And maybe you want to expand financially.
[52:49] Speaker 1: What does that lead into? You know, how are you
[52:54] Speaker 1: going to do that?
[52:54] Speaker 2: Right?
[52:55] Speaker 1: That might be the beginning of that answer. Yeah, because
[53:00] Speaker 1: or could do that in the second house. It could
[53:01] Speaker 1: really expand you financially. You have to direct the energy.
[53:04] Speaker 2: Though everybody who has Leo in the second house is
[53:08] Speaker 2: cheering right now.
[53:11] Speaker 3: I don't make it.
[53:14] Speaker 1: Expand finances, yes, you know, and an abundance and like
[53:18] Speaker 1: comes from self worth though, Like that's the second house message,
[53:21] Speaker 1: Like as long as you feel worthy of it, you
[53:23] Speaker 1: can have as much money as you want. Right, that's
[53:27] Speaker 1: a message of the second house. So you have to
[53:29] Speaker 1: expand yourself worth first. What's the third house communication? How
[53:36] Speaker 1: you communicate? And that's where your Moon and Sun and
[53:40] Speaker 1: Leo are and so that's that new Moon energy, that's
[53:44] Speaker 1: that starter, that's that's everything you communicate inspires and start something.
[53:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm really good at starting stuff.
[53:54] Speaker 1: We got to lean into that mars to help you
[53:57] Speaker 1: sustain it. Yeah, yeah, and that all that Capricorn you
[54:04] Speaker 1: might need like a relationship or a partnership and business
[54:07] Speaker 1: to help you sustain it. Because you have so much
[54:13] Speaker 1: in Capricorn the seventh and so much structure and stability there. Right,
[54:18] Speaker 1: So if you're finding yourself like starting something and not
[54:21] Speaker 1: being able to hold on to it, you might need
[54:23] Speaker 1: some kind of partner whatever that is to help you
[54:25] Speaker 1: sustain it, because that Capricorn energy gives you a lot
[54:31] Speaker 1: of structure, and it gives you a lot of like
[54:33] Speaker 1: that's what Capricorn does, discipline sustains, right, and so if
[54:37] Speaker 1: you're having trouble feeling like you can't sustain something, then
[54:41] Speaker 1: you might have to lean on your Capricorn and the
[54:43] Speaker 1: seventh which would be like a partner something like that. Yeah,
[54:52] Speaker 1: I'm excited for you though, like a Nodle return and
[54:55] Speaker 1: a Jupiter return happening like the same summer.
[55:00] Speaker 2: This gonna be good for you.
[55:03] Speaker 4: Well, I'm excited after hearing about it all. So I
[55:05] Speaker 4: feel like you lit some certifire in me.
[55:08] Speaker 2: Good good.
[55:10] Speaker 1: Maybe it's just to restart your diegarden or whatever else
[55:13] Speaker 1: you want to do, like you literally can do whatever
[55:15] Speaker 1: you want.
[55:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just like it's freeing, but it's also
[55:20] Speaker 4: like too many options. Like when you go somewhere and
[55:23] Speaker 4: there's like a menu and there's like a thousand things
[55:25] Speaker 4: on the menu.
[55:26] Speaker 1: Well, that's journaling for like ten minutes a day. I
[55:29] Speaker 1: wondn't even go like very long because then you'll get
[55:32] Speaker 1: lost in all the options. But like keep it short
[55:34] Speaker 1: and sweet and see what themes keep coming up before
[55:38] Speaker 1: you even do anything. I would do like at least
[55:40] Speaker 1: thirty days minimum of like journaling every day, Like how
[55:44] Speaker 1: do I want to expand how do I want to
[55:46] Speaker 1: focus the energy of expansion? What do I want to create?
[55:51] Speaker 1: What do I want to start? How am I going
[55:54] Speaker 1: to sustain it?
[55:56] Speaker 3: I'm going to do it ten minutes is yeah.
[55:59] Speaker 2: It's not a lot.
[56:00] Speaker 1: Even if you're a mom of twins who are seventeen months,
[56:02] Speaker 1: you can do it.
[56:03] Speaker 2: You qu all right, Well, do you have any other
[56:10] Speaker 2: questions before we end?
[56:14] Speaker 3: I don't think so.
[56:15] Speaker 1: Yeahs for a lot, and tell people where to find
[56:21] Speaker 1: you and any offerings that you have or coming up.
[56:26] Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me at Moonbody Soul, moonbodysoul dot
[56:29] Speaker 4: com and I announced my moon circles a couple of
[56:33] Speaker 4: weeks before them, but it's always going to be around
[56:35] Speaker 4: the new moon. If you want to join virtually, and
[56:37] Speaker 4: if you're in Kansas City, you can join my mom
[56:39] Speaker 4: Watson Austin Jolim.
[56:41] Speaker 3: Though the message me.
[56:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, this has been so much fun. It's such
[56:46] Speaker 2: a full circle moment for me too.
[56:48] Speaker 1: I had put away my astrology books for so long,
[56:51] Speaker 1: and then Katie asked me to do her chart and
[56:53] Speaker 1: I pulled them out and it was the start of everything.
[56:57] Speaker 1: So thank you for that, Katie. Starting energy and if
[57:01] Speaker 1: you could start something like this helped me start it.
[57:04] Speaker 2: Give me that energy. You can start anything you want.
[57:07] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And with the day your book came out,
[57:10] Speaker 4: I just happened to look at photos from that day,
[57:13] Speaker 4: like over the years and literally ten years before we
[57:16] Speaker 4: were doing a moon ceremony together.
[57:18] Speaker 2: Wow, that's I have chills.
[57:22] Speaker 4: I saw that. I was like, oh my god, I
[57:24] Speaker 4: have to text her, like we were literally just sitting
[57:26] Speaker 4: down ten years ago to.
[57:27] Speaker 1: The day to the day to the day doing a
[57:30] Speaker 1: new moon circle in aries. Must have been an aries. Yeah, yeah,
[57:35] Speaker 1: powerful energy. I don't even think I had started.
[57:38] Speaker 2: I hadn't even started spiritual yet because I started spiritually
[57:41] Speaker 2: coun August of twenty sixteen. Yeah, powerful time. That was
[57:48] Speaker 2: a powerful time.
[57:50] Speaker 4: Well, thank you for teaching me all about astrology all
[57:52] Speaker 4: those years ago, and now for this upcoming transformation I
[57:57] Speaker 4: have coming.
[57:58] Speaker 2: I can't wait, I can't wait. I'm going to text you,
[58:00] Speaker 2: I like, how are you expanding? All right? Well, thank
[58:05] Speaker 2: you for coming on. This is great. Thank you so
[58:09] Speaker 2: much for listening today.
[58:11] Speaker 1: I hope this episode spark something within you, maybe a
[58:14] Speaker 1: new way of seeing yourself, or a question worth sitting with,
[58:18] Speaker 1: or maybe it just helped you remember your power. And
[58:21] Speaker 1: if this episode resonated, I'd love for you to share
[58:23] Speaker 1: it with a friend who might need to hear it too.
[58:26] Speaker 1: And if you haven't already, hit subscribe so that you
[58:28] Speaker 1: never miss a cosmic download. You can find me always
[58:32] Speaker 1: on Instagram at spirit Daughter for weekly astro insights and
[58:36] Speaker 1: behind the scenes moments, and if you want to dive
[58:40] Speaker 1: even deeper, show notes and resources are available at spiritdaughter
[58:44] Speaker 1: dot com. Until next time, trust your timing, trust yourself,
[58:50] Speaker 1: honor your path, and remember the stars don't dictate your future,
[58:54] Speaker 1: they illuminate it.
[58:56] Speaker 2: See you soon
[59:02] Speaker 4: In

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