# From Miss USA to Quantum Leaping: Olivia Jordan’s Birth Chart Reveals Her True Mission

An episode of [The Spirit Daughter Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1877888956), 12 May 2026, 1 h 04 min.

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What happens when you read the birth chart of someone who has stood on the world stage and claimed her crown? Olivia Jordan, Miss USA 2015, actress, model, and mom, sits down for a full natal chart reading and what comes through is a story that has never been told before. In this episode, Jill dives deep into Olivia’s chart and uncovers the powerful connection between her Capricorn Sun, her Taurus Moon, and her Libra rising. You will hear how her son and Libra energy are here to broadcast a message of beauty and real change for others. Jill walks Olivia through her nodal return, revealing the journey from Virgo perfectionism to Pisces universal connection, and why this is THE moment for Olivia to step into her next evolution. They also talk about quantum leaping (yes, the same name as Olivia’s viral Instagram series), throat chakra healing, and what it means to truly embody your voice in this lifetime. If you have ever felt like you were made for something bigger but could not quite see the full picture, this episode will show you how the stars can reveal your path. Press play and dive in. And if this episode resonates, please share it with a friend who needs to hear it! Resources: • Follow Olivia Jordan on Instagram: @Theoliviajordan • Olivia Jordan on IMDB: imdb.com • Spirit Daughter Instagram: @spiritdaughter • Spirit Daughter Website: spiritdaughter.com • My New Book "Spirit Daughter": Get it here • Get Your Free Natal Chart. • Book a Natal Chart Reading. • Try the Moment App for Free • Get the Taurus Season Workbook. Topics Covered: • Olivia Jordan’s full natal chart reading: Capricorn Sun, Taurus Moon, Libra rising • What it means to have Libra energy broadcasting your message to the world • The nodal return: moving from Virgo perfectionism to Pisces universal connection • Why quantum leaping is written in the stars for Olivia • Grounding practices for air and fire energy • Throat chakra healing and how losing your voice can unlock your true power • How reiki and energy healing cleared lifelong blocks • Using your natal chart to understand your life mission Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome and introduction to Olivia Jordan 02:13 Olivia shares her journey with quantum leaping 08:00 Capricorn Sun: the grounded leader 16:19 Taurus Moon and the need for grounding 25:00 Libra rising and broadcasting beauty and change 37:00 The nodal return: Pisces North Node and Virgo South Node 48:00 Throat chakra healing and finding your voice 59:38 Reiki healing and clearing energetic blocks 1:02:00 Closing thoughts and next steps See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.
[0:07] Speaker 1: My name is Jill Winterstein, aka's Spirit Daughter, and my
[0:11] Speaker 1: guest today has literally stood on the world stage and
[0:14] Speaker 1: claimed her crown. She is Olivia Jordan, Miss USA, twenty fifteen.
[0:21] Speaker 1: She's an actress, a model, a mom, and she wants
[0:24] Speaker 1: to create real change in the world. When I looked
[0:28] Speaker 1: into her chart, I saw a story that has never
[0:31] Speaker 1: been told before, and that's her son and Libra here
[0:35] Speaker 1: to broadcast and communicate her message of not only beauty
[0:40] Speaker 1: but real change for others. I can't wait to get
[0:44] Speaker 1: into this chart with you. Welcome Olivia. But yeah, so
[0:50] Speaker 1: we'll get into your natal chart. So that's what we do, well,
[0:52] Speaker 1: that's what I do on this podcast is read natal charts.
[0:56] Speaker 1: I wanted to read yours for years. So I think
[0:58] Speaker 1: this is fun because we've well yeah, I mean whenever
[1:02] Speaker 1: there's like people of interest who I connect with the Instagram,
[1:06] Speaker 1: it's like just natural to be like, I wonder what's
[1:09] Speaker 1: in her natal chart? I wonder what's going on in there?
[1:17] Speaker 1: How did you end up where you are? Because there's
[1:19] Speaker 1: always a story in the natal charts. Is always like
[1:22] Speaker 1: oh okay, like that makes sense. I can I get it?
[1:26] Speaker 1: I get and your chart like just seeing where you're
[1:30] Speaker 1: at right now, Well, your son's in libra, so that
[1:33] Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense, but you're also in a
[1:36] Speaker 1: nodal return. We'll get through that to that at the
[1:40] Speaker 1: you know, in a bit, but your notal return, just
[1:44] Speaker 1: so you know, is the time. I always say this,
[1:46] Speaker 1: that you get to make quantum leaps in your life.
[1:49] Speaker 1: And so the fact that you have like an Instagram
[1:54] Speaker 1: the leery is going on right now, which is called
[1:56] Speaker 1: quantum leaping to get your next TV show, I was like, yeah,
[2:01] Speaker 1: this is the time, Like you're in the quantum leap
[2:04] Speaker 1: period of your life with this nodal return, and so
[2:07] Speaker 1: it's like of no coincidence that your series is called
[2:10] Speaker 1: quantum leaping. I'm like, oh, all right, she got the memo.
[2:13] Speaker 2: How that is crazy that I felt. I don't even
[2:18] Speaker 2: fully know what I mean by quantum leaping, but I
[2:20] Speaker 2: have felt like that's where my energy is pulling me,
[2:23] Speaker 2: like we're about to have a big movement forward, movement, sideways.
[2:29] Speaker 3: I don't know, this movement feels real.
[2:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot. There's a lot of movement for
[2:33] Speaker 1: you whenever you're in a nodal return, there's a lot
[2:36] Speaker 1: of movement that has to do with where your north
[2:38] Speaker 1: node and south node are placed, and so that's when
[2:42] Speaker 1: you they are back to where they were when you
[2:45] Speaker 1: were born. So you have your north aromne Pisces, south
[2:48] Speaker 1: node in Virgo, and right now the current north nodes
[2:51] Speaker 1: are in Pisces and Virgo, and so you're in your
[2:53] Speaker 1: nodal return. Happens every eighteen years. And I always say, like,
[2:58] Speaker 1: when we're in a nodal return the time of quantum
[3:00] Speaker 1: leave on your life path. And so you're right there.
[3:04] Speaker 1: You're very aligned. Your Instagram series is very very aligned.
[3:08] Speaker 1: So it's all happening as I should be.
[3:12] Speaker 3: This is my first chart reading ever.
[3:16] Speaker 2: Even though I'm like into as you know, I'm into
[3:19] Speaker 2: the woo woo and I'm into all of it, I
[3:21] Speaker 2: just haven't committed to it. Okay, but I didn't even
[3:25] Speaker 2: know that Virgo was part of my chart.
[3:28] Speaker 1: That's so yeah, yeah, your self note isn't Virgo. So
[3:31] Speaker 1: that's actually what you've come into this world knowing and understanding,
[3:36] Speaker 1: and it's you most likely were a Virgo in a
[3:39] Speaker 1: former life, and so you've come into this world understanding
[3:42] Speaker 1: like perfectionism and detail and you know all the earth
[3:49] Speaker 1: nature of Virgo, which is that detail, which is that
[3:53] Speaker 1: over analyzing, and you know, worthiness is a huge part
[3:57] Speaker 1: of Virgo as well. So I always say that people
[4:01] Speaker 1: come into this world carrying the lower energies of their
[4:04] Speaker 1: self known, and they're here to really work them out.
[4:07] Speaker 1: And so the lower energies of Virgo are feeling like
[4:11] Speaker 1: you have to be perfect to be worthy, and so
[4:14] Speaker 1: your lifetime is very much about unraveling that and realizing
[4:19] Speaker 1: that you're worthy in your imperfection.
[4:22] Speaker 2: I think that we just did a full quantum leap
[4:26] Speaker 2: of therapy because I.
[4:27] Speaker 4: Really said, is I get really attached like self realization
[4:35] Speaker 4: and learning and growing and healing, and I have spent
[4:38] Speaker 4: so much energy and time in that space, and only
[4:41] Speaker 4: recently it has been my breakthrough of like I also
[4:45] Speaker 4: deserve to enjoy life in the imperfection.
[4:49] Speaker 3: Of healing, like I don't. I have this idea of
[4:51] Speaker 3: like being fully healed not real.
[4:54] Speaker 1: You're never fully healed. No one is ever fully healed. Ever,
[5:00] Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. But I think that's
[5:02] Speaker 1: that is that Virgo neess, like Virgo is always reaching
[5:05] Speaker 1: for perfections, like if I can obtain the perfection, then
[5:09] Speaker 1: I'll be happy, then I'll feel worthy, then I'll get
[5:11] Speaker 1: the thing or that thing, and it'll all fall into place.
[5:14] Speaker 1: When really life is about for all of us, and
[5:18] Speaker 1: especially if you have a self note, and Virgo is saying,
[5:20] Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy life. I'm going to feel worthy
[5:22] Speaker 1: of life and feel worthy of my visions in my imperfections,
[5:27] Speaker 1: and I'm going to accept that imperfection in itself is beauty.
[5:30] Speaker 1: Like we only exist as humans because of imperfection. Imperfection
[5:34] Speaker 1: actually drives evolution, and so you know, we're only like
[5:38] Speaker 1: here because of imperfection, because of like imperfect evolution that
[5:43] Speaker 1: caused you know, blue eyes for instance, or something like that.
[5:47] Speaker 1: And so there's beauty in imperfection, and imperfection is like,
[5:53] Speaker 1: is valuable in itself. And I think that we have
[5:56] Speaker 1: this kind of ideal and especially when you come from
[5:59] Speaker 1: like the world you come from, which is you know,
[6:01] Speaker 1: miss Usa, miss Universe acting. It's all about being perfect,
[6:08] Speaker 1: standing on a stage and looking perfect, saying the most
[6:11] Speaker 1: perfect thing in the most perfect way, and that's not
[6:15] Speaker 1: what life is really about. Life is about finding the
[6:18] Speaker 1: beauty in the imperfection and there's nothing wrong with any
[6:22] Speaker 1: of that. There's just we also need that balance of saying, Okay,
[6:26] Speaker 1: everything is imperfect and it's still beautiful, and I'm still
[6:30] Speaker 1: worthy of my visions. I'm still worthy of love and
[6:34] Speaker 1: belonging unconditionally in my imperfection. And so that's a life
[6:39] Speaker 1: lesson for you, and one that you're making quantum leaps
[6:42] Speaker 1: in right now.
[6:45] Speaker 2: Yes, that's I love. That's just such a beautiful framing
[6:50] Speaker 2: on that. And I have a Virgo daughter, so that.
[6:52] Speaker 1: Also tracks interesting.
[6:54] Speaker 3: Okay, has been part of.
[6:57] Speaker 2: Unlearning some of the traps that I'd get into because
[7:01] Speaker 2: she's she's in between your kiddos.
[7:03] Speaker 3: I think you have like three and a six year.
[7:06] Speaker 1: Old, three and six, three and six.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter's four, okay, right right, and that fun.
[7:14] Speaker 2: But she's already I see her at times being really
[7:18] Speaker 2: fixated on things being perfect or organized her and so
[7:22] Speaker 2: I'm yeah, through her, I'm like, no, it doesn't have
[7:25] Speaker 2: to be perfect.
[7:26] Speaker 1: The Virgo kiddos. I think it's so interesting. My friend
[7:29] Speaker 1: has a Virgo daughter who's I think she's four and
[7:32] Speaker 1: she just turned five, and so she's right around the
[7:35] Speaker 1: same age, and she like she spends hours like organizing
[7:39] Speaker 1: her room and has to have like she has all
[7:42] Speaker 1: these dresses, and which I'm not in that world at all.
[7:45] Speaker 1: I kind of wish I was. I do miss. I
[7:48] Speaker 1: feel like I missed out on like the girl dresses
[7:51] Speaker 1: with all my boys. But you know, she has to
[7:53] Speaker 1: have like her dresses like all organized, and like she
[7:56] Speaker 1: has all these like princess costumes and they have to
[7:59] Speaker 1: be like all perfectly organized. And it's like, no, it's
[8:03] Speaker 1: all right. Like you know, my house and like we
[8:06] Speaker 1: have a bin of costumes and everything's just shoved in there.
[8:09] Speaker 1: You know, it's like that's also fine. You know, you
[8:12] Speaker 1: can still enjoy and have fun and play. And that's
[8:16] Speaker 1: like the larger message. You can still enjoy and have
[8:18] Speaker 1: fun with life even when things are just shoved in
[8:21] Speaker 1: a bin and not perfectly organized.
[8:25] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is why I love the work you do,
[8:28] Speaker 2: because you just you give us reframing for whatever we're
[8:32] Speaker 2: going through.
[8:32] Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, this is nor this is okay.
[8:36] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And there's something it's really interesting because I work.
[8:39] Speaker 1: I work with a lot of clients and there's something about,
[8:43] Speaker 1: like you said, the quantum leaping with the astrology. When
[8:47] Speaker 1: we talk about it from the lens of a natal
[8:49] Speaker 1: chart versus and I love therapy. I've been a therapy
[8:52] Speaker 1: for twenty years and that you know my backgrounds and
[8:55] Speaker 1: psych But when we look at it through the lens
[8:56] Speaker 1: of the natal chart, instead of like going deep into
[8:59] Speaker 1: just like you know, in the therapy world, there's this
[9:02] Speaker 1: way we can kind of disconnect from it where it
[9:04] Speaker 1: feels like more matter of fact, and it feels more
[9:06] Speaker 1: just like, oh, that's why I do the things I do.
[9:09] Speaker 1: It's not this like huge painful trauma that I have
[9:13] Speaker 1: to unpack and relive and all that. It's just like, oh, no,
[9:16] Speaker 1: my self note happens to be in virgo. I need
[9:19] Speaker 1: to just accept that I'm perfect in my imperfection, you know.
[9:23] Speaker 1: And there's like this strange but very illuminating detachment that
[9:28] Speaker 1: allows us to really understand ourselves from this lens and
[9:32] Speaker 1: then meek changes that feel really sustainable and grounded and
[9:36] Speaker 1: don't feel like, oh I have to spend like another
[9:38] Speaker 1: year in therapy to actually integrate this. I can just say, oh,
[9:42] Speaker 1: now I get it.
[9:45] Speaker 2: Yes, it removes the whole self blame piece. It's like
[9:48] Speaker 2: this is just part of your journey.
[9:51] Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly. It. It removes the self plane, it
[9:54] Speaker 1: moves the judgment, it moves the like resentment, It moves
[9:58] Speaker 1: like that piece of like where we need to forgive
[10:01] Speaker 1: ourselves because we do blame ourselves, like I did something
[10:03] Speaker 1: wrong or this happened, and then that this is why
[10:06] Speaker 1: this happened. It removes all of that and it's just like,
[10:09] Speaker 1: oh no, that's just the energy. It's pure, simple, and
[10:12] Speaker 1: I'm just gonna work with it. That's how it goes.
[10:16] Speaker 1: But I'm assuming you know you're big three? Have you
[10:18] Speaker 1: gotten into your Big three at all? Your sun moon
[10:21] Speaker 1: and rising?
[10:22] Speaker 3: I mean, I know one Libra and I really did
[10:25] Speaker 3: to that.
[10:25] Speaker 1: Yes, I think.
[10:28] Speaker 3: I thought my rising was Capricorn.
[10:30] Speaker 1: You're rising is Capricorn? Correct? Yes, You're rising is Capricorn?
[10:34] Speaker 3: Ok? Yes, okay.
[10:36] Speaker 2: I only know this because I did one of the
[10:38] Speaker 2: little online searches when my husband and I got together.
[10:41] Speaker 3: He is a Capricorn.
[10:42] Speaker 2: Oh, Libra and Capricorn aren't by nature the most logical duo.
[10:48] Speaker 2: But then when I saw that Capricorn is part of
[10:50] Speaker 2: my rising, I was like, maybe this is why I'm
[10:55] Speaker 2: attracted to this energy.
[10:57] Speaker 1: That's probably why he was attracted to you.
[11:02] Speaker 3: It's rising what we're working. We're like aspiring to be
[11:06] Speaker 3: where it's somebody.
[11:07] Speaker 1: It's the energy that's rising through us. I mean, I
[11:09] Speaker 1: feel like our entire chart is what we're rising to be.
[11:12] Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the misconceptions about the
[11:14] Speaker 1: natal chart, is that we know all these energies, we
[11:17] Speaker 1: understand them, and really we're here to learn them. We're
[11:19] Speaker 1: here to evolve through our placements, and so I really
[11:22] Speaker 1: feel like we're evolving through every placement, including our rising.
[11:26] Speaker 1: You're rising, though, is how you dawn on people. So
[11:29] Speaker 1: it's what people first perceive about you. Now, I will
[11:33] Speaker 1: say I don't exactly agree with that for you, and
[11:36] Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this before to anybody,
[11:43] Speaker 1: and I was kind of looking at it. So your
[11:44] Speaker 1: sun is in Libra and your moon is in Taurus,
[11:49] Speaker 1: and both those signs are ruled by Venus, and I
[11:53] Speaker 1: think that because you have so those two core placements,
[11:58] Speaker 1: so we think of our three. You know, our big
[12:00] Speaker 1: three is our rising sun and moon, and that like
[12:02] Speaker 1: really defines who we are. But because your moon and
[12:06] Speaker 1: your sun are both in Venus governed signed, I think
[12:09] Speaker 1: that that actually comes through more than the Capricorn rising
[12:13] Speaker 1: for you, and Venus is the sign of love and beauty.
[12:17] Speaker 1: There's a softness to Venus, like I look at you
[12:20] Speaker 1: and I see Venus. I don't really see Capricorn, but.
[12:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I do that much.
[12:30] Speaker 1: Well, you usually we usually don't see like our own
[12:33] Speaker 1: rising normally. It's like how people perceive us. So people
[12:37] Speaker 1: are always like, can you guess my son's sign? And
[12:39] Speaker 1: I'm like no, but I probably can get your rising
[12:41] Speaker 1: sign because it's what we project outward. It's like it's
[12:45] Speaker 1: in a lot of ways like the mask we wear,
[12:47] Speaker 1: but like mask in a good way. So it's what's
[12:50] Speaker 1: rising within us. It's how we dawn on people. Your
[12:53] Speaker 1: rising sign was a sign that was rising on the
[12:56] Speaker 1: horizon when you were born, and so that's why it's
[12:59] Speaker 1: you know, it's rising within you. It's also called the ascendant,
[13:02] Speaker 1: like Capricorn rising people Normally when you meet them, you're like, wow,
[13:07] Speaker 1: this is like a very structured person. This is a
[13:10] Speaker 1: very like diligent Capricorns, like the sign of work. It's
[13:14] Speaker 1: the sign of like okay, not that there's like a
[13:17] Speaker 1: hardness to it, but because it is a feminine sign,
[13:20] Speaker 1: which I think people forget about Capricorn. It is a
[13:22] Speaker 1: feminine sign. But most Capricorns rising like you meet them
[13:26] Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, they're just like workaholics, or they're
[13:30] Speaker 1: like super focused on something, or they have a ton
[13:32] Speaker 1: of structure in their life or wow. And you know,
[13:36] Speaker 1: I don't think it's that you come off not dependable,
[13:39] Speaker 1: but like you'll be like, wow, they're like the most
[13:40] Speaker 1: dependable person in the room. You know, they're super sturdy.
[13:44] Speaker 3: These are not my strengths.
[13:47] Speaker 1: But but it might be something that you're reaching towards.
[13:53] Speaker 1: In some ways. It might be why you gravitated towards
[13:57] Speaker 1: your husband because it I think there are qualities that
[14:01] Speaker 1: you probably find admirable and probably qualities that he possesses
[14:07] Speaker 1: and brings to the table and your relationship and probably
[14:11] Speaker 1: feels of some great comfort to you because there is
[14:14] Speaker 1: a part of you that is like reaching for that
[14:16] Speaker 1: rising sign and that you want all of those things.
[14:20] Speaker 1: But you're also aware enough that like, hey, these aren't
[14:23] Speaker 1: part of me yet. Even if you think they're part
[14:25] Speaker 1: of me, they're not part of me yet.
[14:29] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think that tracks more that it's those
[14:33] Speaker 2: are not really part of me, But my husband is
[14:35] Speaker 2: like so committed, so dedicated, like the most dependable.
[14:39] Speaker 3: He has never missed a phone call.
[14:41] Speaker 2: I have never answered a phone call like we have
[14:44] Speaker 2: like the total opposite the answer like talks to them permanent.
[14:50] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not relate. I don't even answer my
[14:52] Speaker 2: best friends until I know why they're calling.
[14:54] Speaker 1: You like screen your best friends calls. What what is
[14:56] Speaker 1: the nature of us called?
[14:58] Speaker 3: What's going on? Do I have energy for this?
[15:04] Speaker 1: Yeah? That makes sense, that makes sense. We'll be right
[15:07] Speaker 1: back after a quick break. But this is why sun
[15:15] Speaker 1: and libras do get along with sun and capricorns because
[15:18] Speaker 1: they do provide some structure libras and air sign and
[15:22] Speaker 1: so a lot of sun and libras like they kind
[15:24] Speaker 1: of just float through life and not in a bad way,
[15:27] Speaker 1: but they're just like on a different plane than the
[15:29] Speaker 1: rest of us. All of the air signs are in
[15:31] Speaker 1: the mental realm. They're like connected to the energy of
[15:35] Speaker 1: the universe, and they're not they don't always have their
[15:38] Speaker 1: feet on the ground. And so pairing them with a
[15:41] Speaker 1: capricorn sun, which capricorns are like very grounded. They're like
[15:45] Speaker 1: always on the ground, like not just their feet around
[15:47] Speaker 1: the ground, like their whole bodies on the ground like
[15:48] Speaker 1: they're there. It can be very comforting for libre because
[15:54] Speaker 1: it's like you've got that container for all that air
[15:57] Speaker 1: energy Capricorn contains, and so so libras are like, you know,
[16:02] Speaker 1: all that air is like rising all around and expanding
[16:05] Speaker 1: and reaching for this thing and that thing, and then
[16:08] Speaker 1: we've got that container of the Capricorn helping to stabilize
[16:11] Speaker 1: it and ground it. And it can feel really good
[16:14] Speaker 1: to have that centeredness and have that stability.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Yes, I think that feels very true for me. I
[16:22] Speaker 2: need I need someone helping bring my attachment. Every single
[16:26] Speaker 2: one of my meditations, grounding is involved in.
[16:29] Speaker 1: The practice, yes, like come back to coming back, yeah,
[16:33] Speaker 1: come on back. And you have your moon in Taris,
[16:35] Speaker 1: which is an Earth sign, and so your moon is
[16:38] Speaker 1: your emotional foundation and it's what you need to feel
[16:44] Speaker 1: fulfilled in this life. It's your needs, and so venus
[16:47] Speaker 1: is your love and how you love, your venus happens
[16:50] Speaker 1: to be in Leo. Your moon is what you need
[16:53] Speaker 1: from love, okay, and what you need to feel fulfilled.
[16:58] Speaker 1: So you actually need Grond to feel fulfilled with that
[17:02] Speaker 1: Taris moon. It brings you back home to yourself and
[17:06] Speaker 1: that Taris moon over and over and over again. Tarus
[17:09] Speaker 1: is you know, again ruled by Venus, is going to say, okay,
[17:11] Speaker 1: let's create a beautiful home. Let's create beauty all around me.
[17:16] Speaker 1: Let me feel comfortable within my space so I can
[17:19] Speaker 1: be present with myself. And so Taris moons want a
[17:23] Speaker 1: lot of comfort around them. They're comforted by you know,
[17:27] Speaker 1: there's always like these funny memes about like, oh, you know,
[17:30] Speaker 1: like tars moons are always like buying plush furniture like
[17:33] Speaker 1: velvet drapes and things like that. Because Tars rules all
[17:37] Speaker 1: of our senses. It rules our sense of touch, our
[17:39] Speaker 1: sense of like everything you know, including even like our
[17:43] Speaker 1: psychic sense in a lot of ways. And that's where
[17:45] Speaker 1: that like pure presence comes in. And so for you,
[17:48] Speaker 1: like listening to grounding meditations is going to be so
[17:51] Speaker 1: good because it's going to bring you into your present
[17:54] Speaker 1: moment and it's going to allow you to connect to
[17:56] Speaker 1: all of your senses, including your intuition, and you need that.
[18:02] Speaker 1: You need that to feel fulfilled in life. So anytime
[18:05] Speaker 1: like life feels like it's throwing you a curveball or
[18:08] Speaker 1: you don't know which end is up, and your air
[18:10] Speaker 1: from your libra. Son is just getting out of hand right.
[18:13] Speaker 1: You connect with the earth, you connect with yourself, you
[18:16] Speaker 1: connect with your body. It's all about tars is all
[18:19] Speaker 1: about the body. It's about feeling like that's what true
[18:23] Speaker 1: grounding is. It's connecting with our body, connecting with our breath.
[18:27] Speaker 1: So it's like feeling, you know, your feet on the ground,
[18:29] Speaker 1: like feeling your breath and your chest like that is
[18:32] Speaker 1: true connection and grounding, and that for you is always
[18:36] Speaker 1: going to bring you home to yourself and your Tarus
[18:43] Speaker 1: moon happens to land in your fourth house, which is
[18:45] Speaker 1: the house of the Helm. So your home is really
[18:47] Speaker 1: really important to you, and you know it being comfortable,
[18:51] Speaker 1: and you know, some would even call it luxurious. And
[18:54] Speaker 1: I will say, you know, Venus and Leo loves luxury
[18:57] Speaker 1: as well. I can speak that because my Venus is
[19:01] Speaker 1: and Leo and I'm like, yes, like take me shopping,
[19:05] Speaker 1: thank you.
[19:08] Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're I think that's part. Yeah.
[19:12] Speaker 2: We lived in La and moved to Oklahoma, and part
[19:15] Speaker 2: of the draw was that we could live in our
[19:18] Speaker 2: dream home like it was like no, we could have
[19:21] Speaker 2: the dream of like our creature comforts now and then
[19:24] Speaker 2: just travel to La for work and things instead of
[19:26] Speaker 2: like aspiring the goal in la was a very different
[19:30] Speaker 2: price point.
[19:30] Speaker 3: Than where we could live in Oklahoma.
[19:33] Speaker 2: And I do feel that, like I really I want
[19:36] Speaker 2: my home to be a reflection of myself and feel cozy.
[19:39] Speaker 3: And that's very funny.
[19:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's important.
[19:43] Speaker 3: He's already written this.
[19:44] Speaker 1: Because that's yeah, it was written in the stars. You
[19:46] Speaker 1: have you have to have a home that feels you know,
[19:48] Speaker 1: and even just like looking behind you, like textures and
[19:51] Speaker 1: colors like these are all Taris things. And like I
[19:56] Speaker 1: was once in this home of a Tarist sun sign,
[19:58] Speaker 1: and I just like I didn't sign. I immediately knew
[20:01] Speaker 1: from stepping into her house that she was a Taris
[20:04] Speaker 1: sun sign because it was like there was like the
[20:06] Speaker 1: velvet drapes and like the super big plush couches and
[20:11] Speaker 1: like the rugs that just like added warmth to the home.
[20:15] Speaker 1: Like you can feel it when you're in, you know,
[20:17] Speaker 1: a home of a Taris's sun or a Taris moon,
[20:20] Speaker 1: because it feels comfortable and everything is intentionally placed to
[20:25] Speaker 1: bring that comfort, which really brings safety and opens up
[20:29] Speaker 1: the doorway for true presence. So it's not so much
[20:33] Speaker 1: about like having the velvet drapes. It's more about like
[20:35] Speaker 1: that comfort and safety to just be and sit with
[20:39] Speaker 1: yourself and find that like presence and grounding, that connection,
[20:43] Speaker 1: that embodiment of who you are in the moment, and
[20:47] Speaker 1: that's what your soul really needs to feel fulfilled, is
[20:52] Speaker 1: that that container. Again, Taris is an Earth sign like Capricorn.
[20:57] Speaker 1: They bring us our containers. You need a container that
[21:00] Speaker 1: feels beautiful and comfortable to you.
[21:04] Speaker 2: Interesting, my sister is a forest and her home is
[21:09] Speaker 2: like she just has the most beautiful home where everything
[21:13] Speaker 2: is so thoughtful, and I feel like she's just her
[21:17] Speaker 2: living that way gives me permission to be like, oh,
[21:20] Speaker 2: it's okay to spend money on art, you know, Like
[21:23] Speaker 2: there's just there's something helpful about that reminder that it's like, no,
[21:27] Speaker 2: this actually does add value. Not only are you supporting
[21:30] Speaker 2: an artist, but it's also adding value to my life
[21:33] Speaker 2: to live in a space.
[21:34] Speaker 1: That feels good, right, exactly, Yeah, and that's exactly true.
[21:39] Speaker 1: And then yeah, your son and Libra, so your son
[21:41] Speaker 1: in libras in your ninth house, and so the houses
[21:44] Speaker 1: in astrology are areas of your life that these energies
[21:48] Speaker 1: show up. So just like your Taurus moon shows up
[21:51] Speaker 1: in your fourth house of the home. Your son in
[21:53] Speaker 1: Libra shows up in your ninth house, which is all
[21:56] Speaker 1: about broadcasting. A lot of people think it's like, you know, travel,
[22:00] Speaker 1: which that's part of it, but it's really about like broadcasting,
[22:02] Speaker 1: standing on a stage, speaking your truth right being seen,
[22:07] Speaker 1: broadcasting your message to larger audiences. And so that's very
[22:12] Speaker 1: central to your core identity with your son there. Your
[22:16] Speaker 1: son is like your core. It's what keeps us centered.
[22:18] Speaker 1: It's the center of us, just like it's the center
[22:21] Speaker 1: of the solar system. And whenever we feel lost. I
[22:24] Speaker 1: always tell people, if you ever feel lost, just look
[22:26] Speaker 1: at your son, your son sign and go back to
[22:29] Speaker 1: that whatever that is leading you back to. So for
[22:33] Speaker 1: you it be it's go ahead.
[22:37] Speaker 2: Yeah you're saying, stay on the path of this broadcasting
[22:42] Speaker 2: my voice. That's part of because obviously, obviously I guess
[22:45] Speaker 2: that that is what I do and that's what I
[22:47] Speaker 2: feel called to do. But even in the stars, it's that.
[22:51] Speaker 3: Is my path.
[22:52] Speaker 1: That is your path. Your path is one of broadcasting.
[22:55] Speaker 1: And there's two placements in your chart of using your voice,
[22:59] Speaker 1: like really you in your voice your son and Libra
[23:02] Speaker 1: in the ninth house. And you know, Libra is the
[23:05] Speaker 1: sign of relationships, it's also the sign of balance, and
[23:10] Speaker 1: so I've always found that people with their son and
[23:12] Speaker 1: libras have this remarkable ability to hold to opposing truths
[23:16] Speaker 1: at the same time, and so they're not like either
[23:20] Speaker 1: or they're not like, oh you're right, you're wrong. And
[23:23] Speaker 1: this is why they make great lawyers and sometimes good politicians,
[23:27] Speaker 1: because they're able to like hold different perspectives and they're
[23:30] Speaker 1: able to say, Okay, there's truth in both of these
[23:34] Speaker 1: opposing viewpoints. And that's why it can be the sign
[23:37] Speaker 1: of like law and justice, and you know, really understanding
[23:41] Speaker 1: it from that perspective, because I think people think of
[23:44] Speaker 1: Libra and they think either like just beauty or they
[23:46] Speaker 1: think relationships, and it does have that element of beauty,
[23:50] Speaker 1: and most people with a Libra son sign like project beauty.
[23:54] Speaker 1: They're magnetic to people, and people like see that first
[23:58] Speaker 1: about them. And that's why I was like, Oh, you've
[24:00] Speaker 1: got all this venus, you know, in your moon sign
[24:03] Speaker 1: and your Libra sign, and that's what people are seeing.
[24:07] Speaker 1: They're seeing your Venus come through first, all that Venus
[24:10] Speaker 1: energy and not the Capricorn energy. Even though I still
[24:14] Speaker 1: kind of think the Capricorn energy is there, but that
[24:16] Speaker 1: son in Libra gives you that ability to just really
[24:20] Speaker 1: understand different sides of the equation and then also says, okay,
[24:25] Speaker 1: let's keep peace within ourselves. So Libras are like, it's
[24:30] Speaker 1: very very important. Then you have your tools and your
[24:32] Speaker 1: practices that help return you to balance, that bring you
[24:36] Speaker 1: back to the center of who you are, because it's
[24:39] Speaker 1: only from that place that can really access your full gift,
[24:43] Speaker 1: which is to understand that, like, two things can be true.
[24:47] Speaker 1: I always think of that. I don't know if you
[24:49] Speaker 1: follow doctor Becky because you have a kid. She's a
[24:51] Speaker 1: parenting coach, and her thing is I think she has
[24:53] Speaker 1: a trademark, so she is the two things are true.
[24:57] Speaker 1: Whenever I see that or hear her say that, I
[24:59] Speaker 1: always think Libra, because that is like such a libra's
[25:03] Speaker 1: statement that like, yes, two things can be true at
[25:06] Speaker 1: the same time, and there's truth in both, and so
[25:10] Speaker 1: that's a true gift of Libra. They can only access
[25:13] Speaker 1: that though, when they feel balanced within, and so the
[25:17] Speaker 1: point is not to be calm all the time, right,
[25:20] Speaker 1: And I always trying to say this to all my
[25:22] Speaker 1: Libra son signs. It's not about like, Okay, I'm calm
[25:25] Speaker 1: every single day, like even when my kid's tanswerming, Like
[25:28] Speaker 1: I'm calm, I'm at peace, I'm unruffled. Right, getting back
[25:32] Speaker 1: to the parent coaching, I remember reading that book on ruffled,
[25:37] Speaker 1: and I was like, my husband and I we read it.
[25:39] Speaker 1: My I'll just digress here from but we read the
[25:42] Speaker 1: Unruffled book together, and you know, he keeps saying that
[25:46] Speaker 1: to me, like just just be unruffled, be unruffled. And
[25:49] Speaker 1: I remember just looking at me, like my kid is
[25:51] Speaker 1: like tantruming on the floor at this point, and I'm like,
[25:53] Speaker 1: can we just be honest here for a moment and
[25:56] Speaker 1: admit that we're both ruffled.
[26:02] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[26:03] Speaker 1: So there is no remaining unruffled all the time for anyone,
[26:08] Speaker 1: But and there is having tools in your toolkit that
[26:12] Speaker 1: can bring you back to that state, bring you back
[26:15] Speaker 1: to calm quickly and efficiently. And so that's really important
[26:18] Speaker 1: for libras sun signs to understand that it's not just
[26:22] Speaker 1: about being calm all the time. It's not about being
[26:24] Speaker 1: balanced and you know just this like perfect state of
[26:27] Speaker 1: like peace and equanimity all the time. It's about having
[26:31] Speaker 1: tools that you know, like this breath work works for me,
[26:34] Speaker 1: this meditation works for me, taking a walk works for me.
[26:37] Speaker 1: Whatever is in your toolkit so that when you do
[26:40] Speaker 1: get unruffled, when you do feel like you've been thrown
[26:43] Speaker 1: off balance, or life throws your curveball or something happens,
[26:47] Speaker 1: you can quickly and efficiently know what will bring you
[26:50] Speaker 1: back to balance. And so that ultimately is what you're
[26:54] Speaker 1: here to learn through your Libra sun sign. And then
[26:58] Speaker 1: once you're in that balance, then you can access that
[27:00] Speaker 1: true gift of holding those two opposing truths, and that
[27:05] Speaker 1: can be your real superpower. Did you ever go into
[27:10] Speaker 1: like journalism at all? I?
[27:14] Speaker 2: I originally was majoring in journalism. I wanted to be
[27:18] Speaker 2: in broadcast journalism. And I had a professor at BU
[27:23] Speaker 2: that very early on in our class, he said, if
[27:28] Speaker 2: you can see yourself doing anything else, if there's any
[27:32] Speaker 2: other path that is appealing to you, choose that path,
[27:35] Speaker 2: because journalism is dying, it is not lucrative, and you
[27:38] Speaker 2: have to be one hundred percent all in. And I
[27:43] Speaker 2: literally left class like, is there anything else I can do?
[27:46] Speaker 2: Because I didn't feel as impassioned by that speech as
[27:51] Speaker 2: all my peers were, like yes, this is the only
[27:53] Speaker 2: thing that.
[27:53] Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do. And I was like, I don't know,
[27:56] Speaker 3: I'm on sure, Well that's.
[27:57] Speaker 1: Also le d yeah, libra. So the low side of
[28:02] Speaker 1: libra is indecisiveness. It's very hard for a libra to
[28:08] Speaker 1: be that decisive on anything. Yes, And so that could
[28:13] Speaker 1: have been yeah, that could have just been your libretness.
[28:19] Speaker 1: But if you would have like dug in a little
[28:20] Speaker 1: bit more, I wish you knew me at the time,
[28:22] Speaker 1: because I would have said, stay, stay in journalism. M hm,
[28:27] Speaker 1: because I just see that in your chart with the
[28:30] Speaker 1: son and libra in the ninth house. It's like, that
[28:33] Speaker 1: is actually the essence of a really good journalist who
[28:37] Speaker 1: can sit and do very deep interviews with multiple people,
[28:42] Speaker 1: maybe different types of people, different you know, views of
[28:45] Speaker 1: the world on all different stages, and be able to
[28:50] Speaker 1: hold those opposing truths and broadcast them out to a
[28:54] Speaker 1: larger stage. And so I'm not saying you missed your
[28:58] Speaker 1: calling because whatever is you know meant for you will
[29:01] Speaker 1: always be there for you. You may find another vehicle
[29:04] Speaker 1: or pathway to that. But like at first glance at
[29:09] Speaker 1: your chart, I was like that just popped in my head.
[29:13] Speaker 1: I was just like journalism, like was she ever a journalist?
[29:15] Speaker 1: Did she ever think about journalism?
[29:19] Speaker 3: Well? I did.
[29:20] Speaker 2: Through doing this USA, I had cool opportunities to get
[29:24] Speaker 2: to interview people and you know, do different news segments
[29:27] Speaker 2: or entertainment segments. And my struggle with that was that
[29:33] Speaker 2: I can't be shallow, like I have to have the most.
[29:37] Speaker 3: Deep like enlightening.
[29:39] Speaker 2: I need to know everything about someone, and so for
[29:43] Speaker 2: entertainment news it wasn't always right, but I was like
[29:45] Speaker 2: I would get to like the heart of someone, why
[29:48] Speaker 2: are they here? And what are we doing here? And
[29:50] Speaker 2: so I enjoyed it, but it wasn't always received well
[29:53] Speaker 2: they were like why are we crying here? What's going on?
[30:02] Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that would be that Pluto and Scorpio in
[30:04] Speaker 1: your Tenth House, which is all about transformation and depth
[30:07] Speaker 1: and shows up tenth House's career life's work. So that's
[30:10] Speaker 1: going to show up in your life's work. So anything
[30:13] Speaker 1: you do is actually going to require depth. And so
[30:18] Speaker 1: I think that might be where you found yourself in
[30:20] Speaker 1: acting is like I find that a lot of actors,
[30:24] Speaker 1: any actor I've worked with has they have incredible depth.
[30:27] Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that like many people who didn't
[30:31] Speaker 1: know actors personally would say that. But I've always found
[30:35] Speaker 1: that the actors I've worked with and have known personally
[30:38] Speaker 1: just have this amount of depth to them because it's
[30:41] Speaker 1: required for the career choice, Like you have to be
[30:45] Speaker 1: able to go deep into your character, even if it's
[30:49] Speaker 1: like a superficial character or any character at all, Like,
[30:52] Speaker 1: there has to be a depth there for you to
[30:54] Speaker 1: really understand it and really get to that place where
[30:57] Speaker 1: you can again with that word embodiment and body, that
[31:00] Speaker 1: energy and the projected out onto a screen and now
[31:05] Speaker 1: a quick word from our wonderful sponsors.
[31:10] Speaker 2: I feel like the Libris also helps because I don't
[31:14] Speaker 2: judge characters. I can totally understand how they got to
[31:18] Speaker 2: be in this place, Like even some very dark and
[31:22] Speaker 2: twisty ideas, I like, I can see how someone could
[31:25] Speaker 2: get there.
[31:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, that was their upbringing.
[31:27] Speaker 1: That's a very Libra statement. I love that. I love
[31:33] Speaker 1: that you also have your mercury in Libra on your
[31:38] Speaker 1: at your ninth house, right on the cusp of your
[31:41] Speaker 1: of your tenth house, which is your mid heaven. And
[31:43] Speaker 1: so when we're looking at career, we always look at
[31:46] Speaker 1: the mid heaven and we say, okay, where is that
[31:48] Speaker 1: pointing towards that's the very top part of your chart.
[31:51] Speaker 1: So that's the most seen part about you and your
[31:54] Speaker 1: mercury is conjuncture mid heaven. Mercury is the sign of communication. Again,
[32:00] Speaker 1: here's this theme of communicating as being part of your
[32:04] Speaker 1: life's work and right at the top of your chart.
[32:07] Speaker 1: And so you really are here to broadcast messages, and
[32:12] Speaker 1: you're here to communicate messages on a larger scale to
[32:15] Speaker 1: a larger global community. And so that's going to work
[32:20] Speaker 1: its way into everything you do. And if there was,
[32:23] Speaker 1: like you know, getting back to your professor, if there's
[32:25] Speaker 1: one thing that you committed to above anything else, it
[32:29] Speaker 1: would be Okay, how do I broadcast my messages to
[32:33] Speaker 1: the largest audience possible in my life, through my life path,
[32:38] Speaker 1: whatever that message may be.
[32:42] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think I'm trying to figure out what
[32:45] Speaker 2: that message is. But ever since I was I remember
[32:48] Speaker 2: as a teenager in our little cheer squad, we all
[32:51] Speaker 2: had to share, you know, what your why is, and
[32:55] Speaker 2: I of course like burst into tears because I cry always.
[32:59] Speaker 2: But I said, I want to change the world with
[33:02] Speaker 2: my smile. And it has alway, it's like always been
[33:04] Speaker 2: a loop in the back of my brain that I'm like,
[33:07] Speaker 2: what does that even mean, but that it still feels
[33:10] Speaker 2: true today that I'm supposed to I'm supposed to be
[33:15] Speaker 2: part of spreading hope. That's a part of why I'm here.
[33:20] Speaker 2: I'm supposed to help people understand that their differences don't
[33:25] Speaker 2: make them bad and that we can get along more
[33:29] Speaker 2: than we think we can get along in this world
[33:33] Speaker 2: where there's just so much animosity between people.
[33:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I would say that your chart
[33:41] Speaker 1: agrees with that, and all the crying is your chiron
[33:47] Speaker 1: and cancer here in your sixth chiron is the deepest
[33:51] Speaker 1: wound within you, and it's in cancer, which is one
[33:56] Speaker 1: of the more emotional signs of the zodiac, and that
[34:02] Speaker 1: means you have a ton of emotion and you've carried
[34:06] Speaker 1: it in here into this lifetime and it probably wasn't
[34:10] Speaker 1: always understood, like were you a very emotional kid.
[34:17] Speaker 2: My parents' favorite joke is that I never cried as
[34:20] Speaker 2: a baby, and I've spent the rest of my life
[34:22] Speaker 2: making up for it. Okay, I think when I was
[34:25] Speaker 2: very young, I wasn't a big crier. I was like
[34:28] Speaker 2: an easy kid, toddler, and then once I became a
[34:33] Speaker 2: like through my elementary middle school years. I remember just actively,
[34:38] Speaker 2: like the tears have I've actually gotten better. I'm able
[34:42] Speaker 2: to contain them into more appropriate situations. But I cried
[34:46] Speaker 2: daily the part of my yeah existence.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's part of who you are, and
[34:51] Speaker 1: it's part of how you're healing. Actually, because you have
[34:54] Speaker 1: this chiron in cancer, your emotions and getting in touch
[34:58] Speaker 1: with your emotions. You're raw, right, Cancer is the sign
[35:02] Speaker 1: of the mother, it's the sign of the crab, but
[35:05] Speaker 1: I like to think of it as it's the exposed trab, right,
[35:08] Speaker 1: the raw nerve, And so getting in touch with the
[35:11] Speaker 1: rawness of you is actually healing. That's what's going to
[35:15] Speaker 1: heal your deepest wounds this lifetime and any wounds you
[35:19] Speaker 1: brought in from a past life. Is actually getting in
[35:22] Speaker 1: touch with your emotions. And that's what Cayron and cancer
[35:25] Speaker 1: really speaks to. And so that daily crying is your therapy.
[35:30] Speaker 1: That's that's healing for you. That's probably the most healing
[35:33] Speaker 1: thing that you can do, is stay in touch with
[35:36] Speaker 1: those emotions. And it lands here in your sixth house,
[35:40] Speaker 1: and so that's the house of service. So you're of
[35:43] Speaker 1: service to yourself right through that crying and through that healing,
[35:47] Speaker 1: and then that actually becomes your service and your gift
[35:50] Speaker 1: to others. And so that learning to be in touch
[35:54] Speaker 1: with your emotions and heal through your emotions to the
[35:59] Speaker 1: getting to the depth of your emotions is actually going
[36:02] Speaker 1: to help you serve everyone around you, including a greater stage.
[36:11] Speaker 3: That feels so true for me.
[36:12] Speaker 2: I just I spent so many years trying to suppress
[36:17] Speaker 2: that side of me, trying to keep it down, and
[36:20] Speaker 2: then it would be so much more painful, Like I
[36:23] Speaker 2: would cry more, and I would cry incredibly inappropriately, Like
[36:28] Speaker 2: even just asking a question to my professor, I would start,
[36:31] Speaker 2: I would burst into tears. It was like, it's not emotional.
[36:34] Speaker 2: I just needed to know when the next final was.
[36:38] Speaker 2: But I think in my adult life, I've I've sort
[36:42] Speaker 2: of embraced that this is just part of me, and
[36:46] Speaker 2: I think people in my life have, maybe some of
[36:50] Speaker 2: them have seen their own emotions are not so scary
[36:53] Speaker 2: because yeah, I matters out here all the time.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it becomes a roadmap for other people
[37:00] Speaker 1: and they can say, oh, look she's crying and she's okay,
[37:05] Speaker 1: she's living, She's living your life.
[37:06] Speaker 3: Doesn't tell you yeah, yeah.
[37:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then that becomes your gift to others.
[37:14] Speaker 1: Is that example of true embodied emotion and how to
[37:18] Speaker 1: wear your heart in your sleep in a lot of ways.
[37:20] Speaker 1: Let's get into your notable return because I want to
[37:23] Speaker 1: walk you through this because it is really really important
[37:25] Speaker 1: for you right now. So your north node is in Pisces,
[37:29] Speaker 1: your south node is in Virgo, which we touched on
[37:32] Speaker 1: a little bit already, and so you're here in this
[37:35] Speaker 1: lifetime to walk from your south node, which is perfectionism,
[37:40] Speaker 1: to your north node, which is Pisces, which is understanding
[37:44] Speaker 1: that we are all connected to the infinite universe. There
[37:48] Speaker 1: is there's no boundaries, there is universal knowledge available to
[37:53] Speaker 1: all of us. We're all connected. So that piece you're
[37:57] Speaker 1: talking about about differences like that, that's actually Pisces two
[38:01] Speaker 1: as well as Libra. But Pisces really is like there's
[38:05] Speaker 1: no separation between any of us, and we're all mirrors
[38:09] Speaker 1: for each other. We're all connected the grand matrix of energy.
[38:13] Speaker 1: That is right, there is no you and me. There
[38:16] Speaker 1: is just the energy that binds us.
[38:18] Speaker 3: Right.
[38:18] Speaker 1: That's a very Piscey statement. And so you are leaving
[38:23] Speaker 1: this life of perfection that you came in with, so
[38:27] Speaker 1: you came in knowing yourself. No, this is your comfort zone.
[38:30] Speaker 1: You'll always run back there, right, it will always be
[38:33] Speaker 1: appealing to you. It will always be like, oh, that's
[38:36] Speaker 1: home to me. And my guess is that's what drove
[38:39] Speaker 1: you on to the stages of Miss Usa and miss Universe.
[38:43] Speaker 1: Is this like, oh, I can perfection is natural to me.
[38:46] Speaker 1: Perfection is a comfort zone. I can reach for this
[38:49] Speaker 1: unattainable state of perfection because I know, I know that
[38:53] Speaker 1: it's a known feeling for me to keep reaching for perfection.
[38:58] Speaker 1: But you're not here this life time to do that.
[39:01] Speaker 1: You're here to actually shed that. You're here to unravel that,
[39:04] Speaker 1: to unlearn that, to unpack that, And the way you
[39:07] Speaker 1: do that is to reach for that north node in Pisces,
[39:10] Speaker 1: which is like there's no perfection, there's no imperfection, right,
[39:15] Speaker 1: there is nothing and there is everything that is a
[39:18] Speaker 1: like very piscy statement, right, Piscy. I always say, if
[39:21] Speaker 1: like Pisces was a religion, it would be Buddhism, you know,
[39:24] Speaker 1: because it's just this like yeah, because it's just like
[39:28] Speaker 1: everything is and we are all one and we're all
[39:32] Speaker 1: connected and you know, there's all of these constructs that
[39:36] Speaker 1: we have or like that separate us all and divide
[39:39] Speaker 1: us all are all made up. Right, that's very Pisces,
[39:42] Speaker 1: and so you're here to really reach for that and
[39:46] Speaker 1: reach for your intuition. Right, Pisces and Virgo are very intuitive,
[39:50] Speaker 1: but Pisces just has this heightened intuition to them that
[39:54] Speaker 1: helps feed their creativity and helps feed their inner knowing. Right,
[39:59] Speaker 1: they're connected to universal knowledge. And so that's what you're
[40:02] Speaker 1: here this lifetime to learn to understand that there is
[40:05] Speaker 1: no perfection and you're always connected to all the knowledge
[40:09] Speaker 1: of the universe. You always know the next step, even
[40:13] Speaker 1: though it might not be perfect, through your intuition. And
[40:17] Speaker 1: this is landing in your second house, and your second
[40:20] Speaker 1: house is all about your resources, but when I see
[40:23] Speaker 1: your Pisces landing here, it's really about the platform that
[40:27] Speaker 1: you're building. And so you're building a platform that allows
[40:31] Speaker 1: you to let go of your perfectionism and instead embrace
[40:36] Speaker 1: your imperfection and embrace your intuition and let yourself go
[40:41] Speaker 1: forward through your intuition. Maybe you have no idea what's
[40:44] Speaker 1: going to happen, but you trust your intuition is taking
[40:47] Speaker 1: you to the next step, and you're building a platform
[40:51] Speaker 1: for yourself that doesn't rely on anyone else or anything
[40:55] Speaker 1: else that you will have to stand on and broadcast
[40:59] Speaker 1: your larger meth, which comes from your intuition and your
[41:03] Speaker 1: ability to see those two truths at the same time.
[41:07] Speaker 1: And so right now you're in a nodal return, and
[41:11] Speaker 1: so most of us hear about a Saturn return, like
[41:14] Speaker 1: everybody knows what Saturn return is. Returns are just when planets,
[41:18] Speaker 1: replacements like return to the same place when they were born.
[41:21] Speaker 1: And so we have a Jupiter return every twelve years
[41:24] Speaker 1: when Jupiter returns to our where our Jupiter is in
[41:27] Speaker 1: our chart. We have a solar return every year on
[41:30] Speaker 1: our birthday. That's when the Sun returns to the place
[41:32] Speaker 1: it was when we were born. We have a lunar
[41:34] Speaker 1: return when every month, when the moon returns to the
[41:37] Speaker 1: place it was. And so a nodal return happens every
[41:40] Speaker 1: eighteen years, and that is when the nodes the north
[41:43] Speaker 1: node is currently in Pisces, the South node is in Virgo,
[41:47] Speaker 1: so they're returning to the place they were when you
[41:49] Speaker 1: were born. And when that happens, it's time to make
[41:52] Speaker 1: a quantum leap.
[41:55] Speaker 3: This is so crazy.
[41:57] Speaker 2: I I just can't believe the It's just it makes
[42:03] Speaker 2: so much sense that it's that it feels crazy.
[42:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell me more about the Quantum Leap series
[42:10] Speaker 1: on Instagram that you're doing right now.
[42:12] Speaker 2: Well, so I wanted to figure out a way, I guess,
[42:17] Speaker 2: to let people into the acting journey, and so the
[42:22] Speaker 2: series was It just came out of how can I
[42:25] Speaker 2: share more of the journey that it's not just we
[42:29] Speaker 2: always hear about these overnight successes, but so often it
[42:31] Speaker 2: took ten years to get there, and I have been
[42:34] Speaker 2: working on this acting side, and I thought, what is
[42:37] Speaker 2: a good container to put this in? And I have
[42:40] Speaker 2: been last year was the first time I heard the
[42:43] Speaker 2: term quantum leap earing. I guess the first time that
[42:45] Speaker 2: I heard it that it interested me, and so I
[42:50] Speaker 2: just started reading a little more into it and I
[42:52] Speaker 2: was like, Yeah, I feel like I'm entering a phase
[42:55] Speaker 2: where it's like all this groundwork is now going to
[42:58] Speaker 2: launch me. Like I've just been in this building season
[43:02] Speaker 2: of my life and now I'm going to launch forward.
[43:05] Speaker 2: So I was like, what if I just did a
[43:06] Speaker 2: series about about the launch forward?
[43:10] Speaker 3: But wild being in.
[43:12] Speaker 2: The messy middle, like while not knowing is this quantumly
[43:16] Speaker 2: going to happen? Is it going to take thirty days,
[43:18] Speaker 2: is it going to take thirty months. We don't know
[43:21] Speaker 2: how it's all going to shake out, But like what
[43:26] Speaker 2: if I just shared that messy middle. So that's what
[43:28] Speaker 2: we're working.
[43:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, true, I love that. I think people need to
[43:31] Speaker 1: see the messy middle for anything, whether it be for acting.
[43:34] Speaker 1: And I do know the actors journey is never a
[43:36] Speaker 1: straight line. And you know, we do hear these things
[43:40] Speaker 1: that happen over night, but it rarely does actually happen
[43:43] Speaker 1: that way, and so there is a lot of work
[43:45] Speaker 1: and effort that So I always say like La is
[43:47] Speaker 1: like the city of broken Heart because it's a hard
[43:50] Speaker 1: city to be successful, and like really really hard, and
[43:54] Speaker 1: it's you know, it's takes a lot of dedication. And
[43:57] Speaker 1: that might be where your capricorn rising is coming in
[44:00] Speaker 1: because you are very dedicated to your acting path and
[44:04] Speaker 1: you know, you're very dedicated to making it work. And
[44:06] Speaker 1: so there is that capricorn rising, we can we can
[44:09] Speaker 1: start to see it, you know. But but yeah, the
[44:15] Speaker 1: quantum leap, Like quantum leap to me is like when
[44:17] Speaker 1: we can collapse time timelines and when things that should
[44:22] Speaker 1: or could take ten years do happen in ten days
[44:26] Speaker 1: or ten months. So nothing moves that quickly in Hollywood,
[44:30] Speaker 1: so we'll just say ten months instead of ten years.
[44:36] Speaker 2: When I first started the series, I was like, I'll
[44:38] Speaker 2: do this for thirty days, and then I was like, Okay,
[44:40] Speaker 2: this is going to.
[44:41] Speaker 1: Take Yeah, this could be it's open.
[44:45] Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't, we don't know. Yeah, we're I'm learned
[44:49] Speaker 3: in the middle.
[44:51] Speaker 1: And that is where we usually do learn is in
[44:53] Speaker 1: the middle. And you know, with your notable return right now,
[44:57] Speaker 1: you're making a quantum leap in your life path, which
[45:00] Speaker 1: is going from that perfectionism to the imperfection. And so
[45:06] Speaker 1: just by honoring the messy middle, you're already making a
[45:10] Speaker 1: leap towards your north node, which is honoring that imperfection
[45:14] Speaker 1: of the messy middle.
[45:17] Speaker 2: Yes, I love that reframe so much because, yes, I've
[45:20] Speaker 2: been hard on myself about this series, like, ah, this
[45:24] Speaker 2: isn't this is a good enough thing to share as
[45:27] Speaker 2: part of the series, but it's.
[45:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[45:29] Speaker 2: Part of the leap that I'm in is embracing that
[45:33] Speaker 2: side of the yeah.
[45:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, And every time you say that, like this isn't
[45:38] Speaker 1: good enough. Rewrite that. Rewrite that statement, because that's that's virgo,
[45:43] Speaker 1: that's that lower energy of virgo. I'm not good enough.
[45:46] Speaker 1: This isn't good enough. I'm not worthy. This clip isn't
[45:49] Speaker 1: worthy to make it to my Instagram, Like, this isn't
[45:52] Speaker 1: worthy enough to share. Rewrite that and say no, like
[45:56] Speaker 1: it is worthy. Like people need that. People need to
[45:59] Speaker 1: see the realness in this world. They're going to need
[46:01] Speaker 1: it even more, especially with like the Age of Ai
[46:04] Speaker 1: coming about, where everything is going to be like sheer perfection,
[46:08] Speaker 1: like the raw, messy imperfection is actually going to be
[46:13] Speaker 1: what people gravitate towards more than anything else, because we're
[46:16] Speaker 1: going to get so used to seeing perfection that it's
[46:20] Speaker 1: not going to like have any appeal to us anymore.
[46:23] Speaker 2: My personal productions, yes, I'm already yeah, I anytime it
[46:31] Speaker 2: comes across my feet, I'm like, ah, it's just yeah, Yes,
[46:36] Speaker 2: it will be scarier and scarier the more it sort
[46:38] Speaker 2: of melds, like we don't really know what's real or
[46:42] Speaker 2: what's not real.
[46:43] Speaker 3: We're already starting to see that.
[46:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll be right back after a quick break.
[46:53] Speaker 1: So I love I love that you're sharing your journey
[46:56] Speaker 1: and the messy middle, and you know this understand of
[47:00] Speaker 1: how how much hard work it takes in your craft
[47:04] Speaker 1: and showing that to other people and inspiring them. And
[47:07] Speaker 1: maybe they're not actors, but you're inspiring them with your message.
[47:11] Speaker 1: Because your chart's really loud and clear about you have
[47:14] Speaker 1: a message and you need to broadcast it. And so
[47:16] Speaker 1: if that's on Instagram, in your series, or if that's
[47:20] Speaker 1: in something else, Like I was looking at your chart,
[47:22] Speaker 1: I was like, maybe she should start a podcast. The thought, yeah, yeah,
[47:30] Speaker 1: just because this like communication piece and this broadcasting piece
[47:34] Speaker 1: is so central to you. And that's why that like
[47:37] Speaker 1: journalism came up. And you know, just that you're here
[47:42] Speaker 1: in a lot of ways to broadcast a message and
[47:45] Speaker 1: to dig deep into people, to interview people, and that's
[47:49] Speaker 1: that's part of your chart. And then also to teach
[47:53] Speaker 1: people to honor their emotions. It's okay to feel, it's
[47:56] Speaker 1: okay to cry, it's okay to express yourself in any ways.
[48:04] Speaker 1: And then you also have just getting deeper into this
[48:07] Speaker 1: communication piece, you have your mars in aries in your
[48:11] Speaker 1: third house. Your third house is where your communication really
[48:15] Speaker 1: shows up. And so Mars is this passion and it's
[48:19] Speaker 1: in aries, which is its home sign. And so you
[48:22] Speaker 1: have a lot of ambition, you have a lot of motivation,
[48:25] Speaker 1: you have a lot of passion within you. Now this
[48:27] Speaker 1: Mars happens to be retrograde in ares, which means that's
[48:31] Speaker 1: all going to turn inward. And so your ambition and
[48:36] Speaker 1: your drive actually is to internally process and understand things
[48:41] Speaker 1: within you before you can third house communicate them outward.
[48:47] Speaker 1: And so it's really important for you to really alchemize
[48:51] Speaker 1: everything in your life, including the challenges, the perceived failures,
[48:56] Speaker 1: the disappointments, the things that frustrate you. This is energy,
[49:00] Speaker 1: the things that make you feel impatient or restlessness. It's
[49:05] Speaker 1: very very important. Then you have practices that help you
[49:08] Speaker 1: internalize them and understand them and alchemize them and then
[49:12] Speaker 1: transmute them. There's that fire of Mars and aries transmute
[49:16] Speaker 1: them in a way that you can communicate that knowledge outward.
[49:23] Speaker 1: And so that is like part of your chart is
[49:26] Speaker 1: to take what may be like the frustrating path and
[49:30] Speaker 1: acting right because it is frustrating. I've seen like just
[49:34] Speaker 1: so much. I mean I live in La so like
[49:36] Speaker 1: I see this all the time, and it can be frustrating,
[49:41] Speaker 1: can have curveballs. There's so much disappointment, there's so much hope,
[49:45] Speaker 1: Like the hopes are so high and then the nose
[49:49] Speaker 1: are so low in the acting world in Hollywood, and
[49:53] Speaker 1: so taking that like frustration, that disappointment, that restlessness right
[49:59] Speaker 1: and transforming it, transforming it into a message that you
[50:03] Speaker 1: can share with other people after you've alchemized it, after
[50:07] Speaker 1: you've processed it internally. Because of that retrograde in nature.
[50:13] Speaker 2: Okay, I started coaching. I'm acting coach now the last
[50:18] Speaker 2: couple of years. So that makes a lot of sense
[50:20] Speaker 2: because I feel like I've switched that part of me
[50:24] Speaker 2: that just was living in the loop and getting down
[50:27] Speaker 2: on myself. I feel like I have done what you're
[50:29] Speaker 2: talking about that I like now have a community where
[50:32] Speaker 2: I can share in a lot of new actors to
[50:36] Speaker 2: really help them understand like this is normal and it's
[50:39] Speaker 2: part of the process, and we've got to have our
[50:42] Speaker 2: we've got to have our balance and check because it
[50:45] Speaker 2: doesn't really get easier.
[50:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it gets easier for
[50:49] Speaker 1: anybody in the acting world. Yeah, I don't think it's
[50:53] Speaker 1: ever easy. It's like, you know, it's a thing like
[50:56] Speaker 1: even different there's different levels exactly, there's different line there's
[51:00] Speaker 1: different levels, and it's never easy. And so I think
[51:04] Speaker 1: that's a great use of your knowledge and a great
[51:06] Speaker 1: way you've like alchemized your own path to be a
[51:10] Speaker 1: gift to others and to communicate. Third House is also teaching,
[51:14] Speaker 1: So there's that like teaching component.
[51:18] Speaker 3: Yah.
[51:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, teaching.
[51:19] Speaker 2: I didn't realize just part of my thing until I
[51:24] Speaker 2: started being a coach, and that I'm like this, what's
[51:27] Speaker 2: very natural?
[51:28] Speaker 3: Right, Like I do feel like.
[51:30] Speaker 1: Tracks, Okay, yeah, both Third House and Ninth House are
[51:34] Speaker 1: about teaching. So yeah, and your son is in Libret
[51:39] Speaker 1: in the Ninth House. That's that like broadcasting your message, right,
[51:42] Speaker 1: You're teaching through the broadcasting your message. Ninth House is
[51:45] Speaker 1: like on a larger scale where Third House is more
[51:48] Speaker 1: unlike it, like what you're talking about the coaching, it's
[51:50] Speaker 1: more on like an intimate one on one scale, right,
[51:53] Speaker 1: So it's just about like the stage. Ninth House is
[51:56] Speaker 1: about a big global stage, a Third House is about
[52:00] Speaker 1: a smaller, more intimate one on one stage. But they're
[52:03] Speaker 1: both very much about coaching. And you have your son
[52:06] Speaker 1: and Libra in the ninth thousand, and then you have
[52:08] Speaker 1: this Mars retrograde and Aris in your third house. And
[52:13] Speaker 1: so it's really important for you to have practices that
[52:15] Speaker 1: help you alcelmize and internalize like your journey and the
[52:20] Speaker 1: low points of your journey most importantly, so that you
[52:23] Speaker 1: can then share that and teach that, communicate that with others.
[52:29] Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that makes to me.
[52:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of journaling for you. Your homework
[52:36] Speaker 1: is journaling every day.
[52:40] Speaker 3: Okay, I do you think journaling is that the thing?
[52:43] Speaker 3: I think journal journaling.
[52:44] Speaker 1: For what I think journaling for you is a big
[52:48] Speaker 1: unlock for a lot of these Yeah, a lot of
[52:51] Speaker 1: journaling and just freeform journaling. It doesn't have to be perfect,
[52:54] Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be nobody needs to read it.
[52:56] Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be legible. My journaling is like
[52:59] Speaker 1: chick and scratch, and you know, it doesn't have to
[53:02] Speaker 1: be any kind of perfection to it at all, and
[53:05] Speaker 1: it'd be messy and raw and real and just write
[53:08] Speaker 1: down like even just start every day with the simple
[53:10] Speaker 1: sentence like I feel this and let it flow. You
[53:15] Speaker 1: know I'm understanding this, and let it flow and just
[53:18] Speaker 1: see what happens, and you'll start to like alchemize that
[53:21] Speaker 1: Mars energy, and then you'll also really find your message.
[53:25] Speaker 1: Your message will come through crystal clear through that journaling.
[53:30] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's through all of this.
[53:35] Speaker 2: That's the one thing that I still but you said
[53:38] Speaker 2: it's going to be my intuition is going.
[53:39] Speaker 3: To tell me. So I'm like, I know I have
[53:42] Speaker 3: a message.
[53:42] Speaker 2: I know I'm supposed to be on these stages, and
[53:45] Speaker 2: I feel affirmed that that's also what you see in
[53:48] Speaker 2: my chart that I'm like, what am I trying to share?
[53:51] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[53:51] Speaker 1: Well, journaling is going to help you access it. You've
[53:53] Speaker 1: got to get into that inner voice and your intercommunication,
[53:57] Speaker 1: and anytime we have a planet that's retrograde in the
[53:59] Speaker 1: third house, it's like, journaling is the way to understand
[54:03] Speaker 1: the energy, to integrate it internally and then get it
[54:06] Speaker 1: flowing outward at least onto a pen and paper, and
[54:10] Speaker 1: then you can figure out how to get it out
[54:12] Speaker 1: to a one on one and then you can figure
[54:14] Speaker 1: out how to get it out into a larger stage. Okay, yes,
[54:19] Speaker 1: So your prescription from this session is journaling.
[54:24] Speaker 3: Okay, I can do and actually do that.
[54:29] Speaker 1: That's your homework. That's your homework. Do you have any
[54:33] Speaker 1: other questions about your chart? Before we conclude, do you have.
[54:41] Speaker 3: Any wisdom for me on family?
[54:44] Speaker 2: I'm just like, how can I be a better mom
[54:48] Speaker 2: and to my virgal and better wife to my Capricord.
[54:51] Speaker 3: Now why is that?
[54:53] Speaker 1: Well, you're dealing with a lot of Earth signs, and
[54:56] Speaker 1: so I would think that you be being embodied in
[55:00] Speaker 1: your own presence is going to help both of them
[55:05] Speaker 1: immensely and really aligning with your Tars moon. So making
[55:11] Speaker 1: sure that your needs are fulfilled so that you can
[55:15] Speaker 1: find presence within yourself. So it's really about making sure
[55:19] Speaker 1: you feel that comfort around you, getting back to that
[55:23] Speaker 1: like tars theme of that you have a comfortable container,
[55:27] Speaker 1: whatever that might be. That might just be a comfortable
[55:30] Speaker 1: container to journal in, a comfortable container to listen to
[55:33] Speaker 1: a body scan in, but you really having that grounding
[55:37] Speaker 1: connection within you. So you're embodied within yourself and present
[55:41] Speaker 1: within yourself, and that's what's going to be most beneficial
[55:44] Speaker 1: for your Virgo daughter Earth sign and Capricorn husband also
[55:49] Speaker 1: Earth sign.
[55:51] Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that really tracks.
[55:54] Speaker 2: I had a greaky session yesterday and she said the
[55:56] Speaker 2: same thing. She said, you have to just had a
[56:00] Speaker 2: sick kiddo, stuff and stuff going on, and she was
[56:03] Speaker 2: like you can't forget to take care of yourself. Yes,
[56:06] Speaker 2: if you're not taking care of yourself, you can't take
[56:08] Speaker 2: care of the sick kiddo. You're not present, you're not
[56:11] Speaker 2: just floating away.
[56:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you need even just here's your second prescription.
[56:16] Speaker 1: Even just listening to a body scan, you know once
[56:19] Speaker 1: a day or you know, every other day. I have
[56:23] Speaker 1: a PMF MAT. I'm obsessed with that. Like when i
[56:26] Speaker 1: feel like I'm not in my body because I'm like,
[56:29] Speaker 1: you know, doing eighty five thousand things at once, I
[56:32] Speaker 1: like lay on my PMF MAT for thirty minutes and
[56:35] Speaker 1: it just gets me into my body. Okay, So things
[56:39] Speaker 1: like that, like having those tools, so even if you're like,
[56:42] Speaker 1: oh my mind is racing and I can't quiet down,
[56:46] Speaker 1: like have something like like the PMF MAT. That's just
[56:50] Speaker 1: going to do it for you. It's just going to
[56:51] Speaker 1: get you into parasympathetic. It's just going to downregulate your
[56:54] Speaker 1: nervous system so that you can actually get present with
[56:57] Speaker 1: your body and feel feel embodied in yourself, and then
[57:02] Speaker 1: you can be more present for everybody else around you,
[57:05] Speaker 1: which is always the best gift and always the best
[57:07] Speaker 1: thing we can do for anyone, Yes, and.
[57:11] Speaker 2: Not only for them, but for ourselves, Like it does
[57:14] Speaker 2: not feel good to be checked out or not in
[57:17] Speaker 2: my body.
[57:18] Speaker 3: It's not a good feeling.
[57:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly, Yeah, yeah.
[57:23] Speaker 2: Okay, my one final question because you brought up voice
[57:27] Speaker 2: that part of my multiple things about voice in my chart.
[57:31] Speaker 2: Last year, I lost my voice. I had a vocal
[57:34] Speaker 2: injury and I felt I really started panicking that I
[57:39] Speaker 2: had like lost my voice forever. Wow, I got through that,
[57:45] Speaker 2: But I don't even know what I'm asking. What was
[57:51] Speaker 2: that just like a reminder that I'm supposed to be
[57:54] Speaker 2: using my voice.
[57:55] Speaker 1: Was there anything that triggered it emotionally?
[58:00] Speaker 2: But it was like a stressful period that I was
[58:05] Speaker 2: in and then I just I choked on tea. It
[58:07] Speaker 2: was like the most minor thing, and then it triggered.
[58:10] Speaker 3: It triggered a whole litany of issues.
[58:13] Speaker 2: Like then I started having silent reflex that I didn't
[58:16] Speaker 2: realize and then that you know, creative it It was
[58:19] Speaker 2: just it was a whole cycle. Yeah, but I there
[58:23] Speaker 2: were like months of last year that I just I
[58:27] Speaker 2: had very little voice, if any voice every day was.
[58:31] Speaker 1: Wow, that is wild. The voice is really connected to
[58:36] Speaker 1: your throat chakra, and so I wonder if there was
[58:38] Speaker 1: like a clearing or a block there that needed to happen.
[58:43] Speaker 1: There may have been a block that was there, maybe
[58:45] Speaker 1: since the time you were a baby and weren't crying,
[58:49] Speaker 1: and there needed to be a clearing there because a
[58:53] Speaker 1: huge part of your chart is about your voice and
[58:56] Speaker 1: perhaps to access that unlock that pa of yourself that
[59:01] Speaker 1: is here to evolve and you're here to grow in,
[59:04] Speaker 1: which is to embody your voice. Right, you need to
[59:07] Speaker 1: get into your body and your throat and your voice
[59:09] Speaker 1: is part of it. You need to really embody your
[59:11] Speaker 1: voice in this lifetime. It may have been blocked. You
[59:14] Speaker 1: may have come into this lifetime with it blocked, because
[59:19] Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like to me. It's like, oh,
[59:21] Speaker 1: that's throat chokra stuff. There must have been a block
[59:23] Speaker 1: there that you needed to a remember by losing your
[59:27] Speaker 1: voice and then be clear through whatever healing modalities you
[59:31] Speaker 1: did to help clear that. But there most likely was
[59:35] Speaker 1: the multi Yeah.
[59:38] Speaker 2: Yes, the healing was multifaceted, but it truly by the
[59:43] Speaker 2: end it was Yeah, I found a reiki healer and
[59:46] Speaker 2: we did throat chakra and I was doing daily throat
[59:48] Speaker 2: chakra meditations and massages and you know, just self massage.
[59:54] Speaker 2: But at the end of all the irony was I
[59:59] Speaker 2: got an opportunity to be on the Today Show and
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: I said yes when I literally had no voice. I
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: emailed back, I'll do it, and I was like, I
[1:00:06] Speaker 2: have to find my voice so I can do this.
[1:00:09] Speaker 3: And I had like three weeks and I have not
[1:00:11] Speaker 3: had my voice reflec mus and I got it back.
[1:00:16] Speaker 2: The day of was the first day that I had
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: had clarity of voice. Because sometimes I could use my voice,
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: but you could tell it was like really worse than
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: you could tell. I was like really pushing.
[1:00:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, but that day it sounded like me again. It
[1:00:30] Speaker 3: was very odd.
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: Wow, but yeah, that tells me. It was definitely something energetic.
[1:00:35] Speaker 1: And then your energy was like, okay, it's time to
[1:00:38] Speaker 1: it's time to get it together for we gotta work,
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: we gotta do this. Yes, okay, exactly exactly. But you
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: may have just come in with a block for whatever
[1:00:50] Speaker 1: reason and it needed to clear energetically.
[1:00:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:00:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Tarists rules the rolls, the throat, and
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: so with your moon and tarus, it's like you needed
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: to go through a process with your throat and your
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: voice to really step into your needs, maybe even asking
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: for your needs. Maybe you had unmet needs that you
[1:01:18] Speaker 1: know created a block in your throat, either in a
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: past life or at a very young age, and then
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: it was time to say, okay, let me meet my needs,
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: let me reach for that moon and remember this block, right,
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: because losing the voice is like remembering the block and
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: then clearing the block.
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is what it felt like, like it
[1:01:44] Speaker 2: had always been there and I just had to pay
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: attention to it. Like it was like, clear your schedule,
[1:01:49] Speaker 2: we're doing this right. It was not, but it was
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: like you got to.
[1:01:56] Speaker 1: Do this, and then you're like, voice, get it together. Yeah, okay, amazing, amazing.
[1:02:05] Speaker 3: That's a good bud frame. Thank you for that.
[1:02:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome. Well, I was so great to talk
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: to you today. It was wonderful to connect after so
[1:02:13] Speaker 1: many years of connecting and let people know where to
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: find you and how to participate and follow along with
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: your quantum Leap journey.
[1:02:23] Speaker 3: Oh yes, you can find me at the Olivia Jordan.
[1:02:26] Speaker 3: On most socials, I'm primarily on Instagram, but yeah, that's
[1:02:33] Speaker 3: the main thing, and hopefully I'll be on a TV
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: show on your on one of your streaming services very soon.
[1:02:40] Speaker 1: Wonderful, wonderful. I can't wait. I can't wait to hear
[1:02:43] Speaker 1: the update on how this whole note will return. Is
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: going to go for you?
[1:02:50] Speaker 2: Yes, I'm excited, I'm folding. Thank you for letting me
[1:02:55] Speaker 2: be in the mess all.
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I love the messy middle, that's where the beauty.
[1:03:00] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on and connecting
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: with us today. Thank you, Yes, appreciate you, Yes, thank you,
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: see you soon, you do. Thank you so much for
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: listening today. I hope this episode spark something within you,
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: maybe a new way of seeing yourself, or a question
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