# Lala Kent and Ambyr Childers: The Astrology Behind Their Unlikely Friendship

An episode of [The Spirit Daughter Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1877888956), 4 Aug 2026, 44 min.

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What happens when the woman who broke up your marriage becomes your closest friend and your co parent? Lala Kent and Ambyr Childers lived it, and in this episode I read both of their charts to trace the astrology behind one of the most unlikely friendships you will ever hear. We look at why Ambyr’s Cancer Sun and Lala’s Virgo Sun understand and heal each other, the Chiron in Cancer wound they both carry around mothering themselves, and how co parenting is healing it. Ambyr is closing an eighteen month nodal return in Pisces and Virgo and learning to trust that she has everything she needs within her, right as Lala steps into her own nodal return in Leo and Aquarius alongside a Jupiter return, the year she is called to take up space and stop seeking approval. We also get into love and Venus, self worth versus self confidence, and how two people who started as enemies became soul family. Lala and Ambyr co host the iHeart podcast An Unlikely Affair. Topics Covered: The unlikely story: from sharing the same ex to co parenting and deep friendship Why Cancer Sun and Virgo Sun understand and heal each other Self worth versus self confidence, the lifelong Virgo journey The Chiron in Cancer wound they share, and learning to mother yourself The lunar nodes as your soul’s path, and how a nodal return works Ambyr’s Pisces rising and North Node on the ascendant: I have everything I need within me How to actually meditate without the Virgo self criticism The July 26 node shift, and Lala entering her nodal return in Leo and Aquarius Lala’s Jupiter return in Leo: her year to take up space and release approval Love and Venus: Leo in the ninth house versus Venus in Gemini Timestamps: \[00:03\] Meet Lala Kent and Ambyr Childers and their unlikely friendship \[02:23\] From sharing the same ex to co parents and best friends \[05:01\] Why their charts click: Cancer Sun and Virgo Sun \[09:32\] Self confidence versus self worth, the Virgo journey \[10:31\] Healing each other, and the Chiron in Cancer wound they share \[15:34\] The lunar nodes explained, and Ambyr’s nodal return \[21:22\] Ambyr’s Pisces rising: I have everything I need within me \[22:31\] How to actually meditate without the self criticism \[27:06\] The nodes shift on July 26: Lala enters her nodal return \[31:32\] Lala’s Jupiter return in Leo: her year to take up space \[33:39\] Love and Venus: Leo in the ninth house and Venus in Gemini \[40:36\] Two goddesses here to help others heal \[42:19\] Where to find Lala and Ambyr Resources: • Follow Lala Kent on Instagram • Follow Ambyr Childers on Instagram • Listen to their podcast An Unlikely Affair on the iHeartRadio app and all podcast platforms • Follow Spirit Daughter on Instagram • Visit the Spirit Daughter Website • Get your Free Natal Chart • Book a Natal Chart Reading • Get the Leo Season and Total Solar Eclipse Workbook See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.
[0:06] Speaker 1: I'm Jill Winterestin aka Spirit Daughter, and today I sit
[0:10] Speaker 1: down and talk with Lala Kent and Amber Childers, the
[0:14] Speaker 1: co host of Iheart's podcast, An Unlikely Affair. These two
[0:20] Speaker 1: come from a very complicated past, but through it all
[0:23] Speaker 1: have created a beautiful friendship. We talk about both their
[0:28] Speaker 1: charts and the placements that help them build this connection
[0:32] Speaker 1: and become the most amazing co parents together. Welcome Amber
[0:37] Speaker 1: and Lala, Welcome to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.
[0:45] Speaker 2: Thank you for having us, Yes, thank you.
[0:47] Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. It's very very exciting to have
[0:50] Speaker 1: you on. So what I mainly do on the podcast
[0:54] Speaker 1: is I read people's charts, and it's always fun when
[0:56] Speaker 1: we have two people, and especially with two people with
[0:58] Speaker 1: the history or stories, we get to kind of like
[1:00] Speaker 1: look at that story and look at your energy and
[1:04] Speaker 1: your interaction through the lens of astrology, and so that
[1:08] Speaker 1: can be you know, just a good time. Let me
[1:12] Speaker 1: know what is your level of astrology, like if you
[1:14] Speaker 1: had a needle chart reading before either one of you.
[1:18] Speaker 3: I have.
[1:19] Speaker 4: I have been many many years.
[1:22] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a minute for me too. Okay, okay,
[1:25] Speaker 5: all right, and nobody at your level, Like this will
[1:29] Speaker 5: be my first time of like high level shit high level.
[1:36] Speaker 1: We can get into it. We get into it, we'll
[1:38] Speaker 1: keep it.
[1:38] Speaker 5: You know.
[1:39] Speaker 1: I like to go through the Big three and I
[1:40] Speaker 1: like to look at sort of do you guys have
[1:43] Speaker 1: some interesting things in your charts that are ending and starting,
[1:46] Speaker 1: so we'll talk about those. It's just some some things.
[1:50] Speaker 1: It's okay, Amber, you're actually out of the woods.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Got It's just like I can't fucking take anymore and
[1:56] Speaker 3: I'm just.
[1:57] Speaker 4: Going in and you're just going in.
[2:00] Speaker 2: We'll get it going into the woods.
[2:02] Speaker 1: I know, I know it's good though, it'll be good.
[2:04] Speaker 1: I'll explain it's all gonna be good. Okay, good, it's
[2:06] Speaker 1: gonna be great to do this. Okay, we got you, Yeah,
[2:09] Speaker 1: we've got you. Got you. But for the listeners who
[2:13] Speaker 1: don't know you two, don't know your background, do you
[2:16] Speaker 1: just want to give like kind of a brief what
[2:17] Speaker 1: you do, how you know each other, and then we'll
[2:20] Speaker 1: like talk about it through the lens of astrology.
[2:23] Speaker 5: So Amber, I'm gonna let all introduce myself and then
[2:26] Speaker 5: you can tell people how we know each other. I'm
[2:29] Speaker 5: La La Kent. I do reality television. I was on
[2:34] Speaker 5: a show called vander Pump Rules. I'm not now on
[2:37] Speaker 5: a show called The Valley and Amber is one of
[2:41] Speaker 5: my dearest friends, and I can't wait for you to
[2:43] Speaker 5: share how we know each other and what you do.
[2:46] Speaker 2: Well.
[2:46] Speaker 3: Hello, I just have to say, it's it's eleven eleven
[2:49] Speaker 3: in Montana, so that is a sign.
[2:52] Speaker 4: Those are my numbers? Yeah, uh yeah.
[2:57] Speaker 3: My birth name is Amber. I don't know what my
[3:01] Speaker 3: name was in the previous life.
[3:03] Speaker 2: I've thought about.
[3:03] Speaker 3: Changing my name a few times. I am an actress.
[3:08] Speaker 3: I've been an actress. That's all I've known my entire life.
[3:11] Speaker 3: I have two daughters, sixteen and twelve. One's an Aquarius,
[3:16] Speaker 3: one's a Scorpio. So you could only imagine, Jill, how
[3:20] Speaker 3: my life goes on a day to day basis and
[3:25] Speaker 3: super spicy on top of me being a cancer dealing
[3:27] Speaker 3: with my own emotions. I, Lala and I.
[3:32] Speaker 4: Have a very interesting background and story.
[3:34] Speaker 3: The quickest, you know, I guess way to explain it
[3:38] Speaker 3: to the viewers is I was married in my twenties.
[3:43] Speaker 2: Lala was the mistress, I was the wife.
[3:46] Speaker 3: I there was you know, the whole thing kind of
[3:50] Speaker 3: exploded privately and then publicly for me and her and
[3:57] Speaker 3: I never had a great relationship obviously, and then through
[4:02] Speaker 3: at some point they were no longer together. She was
[4:04] Speaker 3: not with my ex husband, and Lala has a daughter
[4:09] Speaker 3: with my ex husband, so our families are kind.
[4:11] Speaker 2: Of forever tied together.
[4:13] Speaker 3: Lala got sober, made an amends her and I started
[4:18] Speaker 3: working on our relationship slowly. It took you know, probably
[4:20] Speaker 3: I would say five or six years to really start
[4:22] Speaker 3: to build this foundation of trust and me really getting
[4:25] Speaker 3: to know her outside of like the labels and like
[4:28] Speaker 3: who she is. And I had never watched Van or
[4:30] Speaker 3: Pump still haven't, and we've just built this beautiful friendship.
[4:40] Speaker 3: But it's also deeper than that. It's like we have
[4:42] Speaker 3: a family and her kids are my kids and my
[4:48] Speaker 3: kids are her kids, and we're just one modern, blended family.
[4:53] Speaker 2: And now we have a podcast and here we are, here, we.
[4:57] Speaker 4: Are here, we are So would you say you're parents?
[5:01] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much, which is amazing, Which is amazing,
[5:06] Speaker 1: And you know, when.
[5:07] Speaker 4: I looked at your charts, I was like.
[5:09] Speaker 1: Oh, this is why they get along, and you can
[5:13] Speaker 1: kind of see it, and it is because there are
[5:16] Speaker 1: some placements that really work well with each other. I know,
[5:19] Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about compatibility, and this is
[5:22] Speaker 1: where we kind of get deeper into compatibility, where it's
[5:24] Speaker 1: just over sun signs. So on the surface, Amber, you're
[5:27] Speaker 1: a cancer sun sign, Laile you're a Virgo sun sign,
[5:31] Speaker 1: and so Vermilon cancers actually get along really well. They're
[5:34] Speaker 1: both feminine signs, and they both kind of align with
[5:39] Speaker 1: the archetype of the mother. Cancer is the mother of
[5:43] Speaker 1: the zodiac, and so cancer sun signs tend to mother
[5:46] Speaker 1: everybody and that is really central to who they are,
[5:50] Speaker 1: and they can over mother and they can overextend. But
[5:54] Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Amber, you're gonna care
[5:55] Speaker 1: about everybody. You're gonna care about everybody's emotions. You're gonna
[5:58] Speaker 1: want to bring people together. You're gonna want to give
[6:02] Speaker 1: people what they need, meaning your own children and everybody
[6:06] Speaker 1: in your life. Like that's just central to who you are,
[6:09] Speaker 1: and it's not a bad thing. I always find myself
[6:12] Speaker 1: telling cancer sun sciences because they kind of are down
[6:16] Speaker 1: on themselves a lot, or they're like, oh I give
[6:18] Speaker 1: too much, Oh I do too much for other people.
[6:20] Speaker 1: Oh I'm depleted all the time, And it's like, this
[6:22] Speaker 1: is your sun sign. This is actually what does a
[6:25] Speaker 1: fill your cup is taking care of others. You need
[6:27] Speaker 1: to learn to take care of yourself just as much,
[6:30] Speaker 1: but you don't want to actually take care of people
[6:33] Speaker 1: less because that actually is central to who you are.
[6:37] Speaker 1: Your sun sign is what keeps you together. It's the
[6:40] Speaker 1: center of your mini universe, and so you don't want
[6:44] Speaker 1: to throw that out. It's not a bad thing that
[6:46] Speaker 1: you care about others, that you want to emotionally manage others,
[6:50] Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. You just want to take
[6:53] Speaker 1: care of yourself as much as you take care of
[6:55] Speaker 1: the people around you. And that's usually where the cancer
[6:58] Speaker 1: sun signs kind of forget. They forget to turn that
[7:02] Speaker 1: care on themselves. But you don't want to turn it
[7:05] Speaker 1: off from other people because that also feeds you.
[7:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[7:09] Speaker 2: I totally resonate with that. That makes sense.
[7:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[7:12] Speaker 4: And then the Virgo sun sign.
[7:15] Speaker 1: Virgo is the sign of the goddess in a lot
[7:18] Speaker 1: of ways, the one that heals, the one that is
[7:22] Speaker 1: perfect as is but has to spend a lifetime understanding that.
[7:26] Speaker 1: And so a lot of Virgo sons that I meet
[7:29] Speaker 1: get wrapped up imperfection, get wrapped up in am I
[7:32] Speaker 1: good enough. Could I ever be enough? Do I have
[7:36] Speaker 1: this credential or that credential? Do I know what I'm
[7:39] Speaker 1: talking about? Imposture syndrome is central to Virgo sun signs,
[7:44] Speaker 1: and for you, it's really about this journey of feeling
[7:47] Speaker 1: self worth, of feeling that you're good enough, of feeling
[7:51] Speaker 1: that you're perfect as is, and then stepping into that
[7:56] Speaker 1: archetype of a healer in a lot of ways because
[7:59] Speaker 1: you're actually here to help others heal. And so that's
[8:03] Speaker 1: where cancer and Virgo really come together is their strong
[8:07] Speaker 1: feminine signs. They both are highly intuitive and at the
[8:12] Speaker 1: end of the day, they just want to help other people.
[8:15] Speaker 1: And that's really beautiful to come together, like just on
[8:19] Speaker 1: a sun sign level, like that alone will help you
[8:23] Speaker 1: to become friends and co parents throughout anything, because you
[8:27] Speaker 1: both just want to help each other and heal each
[8:30] Speaker 1: other as you do with everybody else around you.
[8:33] Speaker 5: That resonates with me a lot because I feel like
[8:37] Speaker 5: I go out into the world that's actually something when
[8:39] Speaker 5: people ask me what's something that people don't know about you?
[8:43] Speaker 5: I get people asking me like how do I get
[8:47] Speaker 5: the confidence that you have? And it's almost like I
[8:49] Speaker 5: know that it's scary out there. So the way that
[8:52] Speaker 5: I protect myself is I put on this. I guess
[8:57] Speaker 5: we can call it a facade of like, I'm confident,
[8:59] Speaker 5: I know I'm an but when I go home and
[9:01] Speaker 5: I'm by myself, my mind starts going I tell amber
[9:04] Speaker 5: this all the time of just like I'll have windows
[9:08] Speaker 5: of like self loathing and going like do you really
[9:13] Speaker 5: think you can do this? Do you really think that
[9:17] Speaker 5: what you say means anything? Are you worthy of this?
[9:21] Speaker 5: That and the other? And those are moments that I have,
[9:23] Speaker 5: Like I told you, when I'm by myself, and then
[9:25] Speaker 5: when I'm out in the world, I'm like, you show
[9:27] Speaker 5: that vulnerable side and this world will eat you alive,
[9:30] Speaker 5: so no one can see that.
[9:32] Speaker 1: M hmm. Well, and I think you point out something
[9:35] Speaker 1: very interesting that there's a difference between self confidence and
[9:38] Speaker 1: self worth, and that's the journey of a Virgo sun sign,
[9:41] Speaker 1: because you can be very confident and still not have
[9:45] Speaker 1: true worthiness. So you can show up in a place
[9:49] Speaker 1: and be like, I can do this, I got this,
[9:51] Speaker 1: I'm capable of this. But self worth comes in and says, well,
[9:54] Speaker 1: even if you can't do this, even if you fail,
[9:58] Speaker 1: do you still feel worthy, love of belonging, of everything
[10:02] Speaker 1: you deserve. Do you still feel worthy of your place
[10:04] Speaker 1: in this world? Even if you can't do the thing,
[10:08] Speaker 1: self confidence says I can do it no matter what
[10:11] Speaker 1: I got it. And so there's a huge difference and
[10:15] Speaker 1: learning that difference and understanding that is part of the
[10:18] Speaker 1: journey of a Virgo sun sign. We'll be right back
[10:21] Speaker 1: after a quick break.
[10:28] Speaker 2: Exhausting, Yeah, it's exhausting.
[10:31] Speaker 1: Do you feel that you two are on a healing
[10:34] Speaker 1: journey together? Because when I look at your charts, I'm like,
[10:37] Speaker 1: these are two people who are helping each other heal
[10:39] Speaker 1: at the end of the day.
[10:40] Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the universe knew exactly what it was
[10:44] Speaker 3: doing when it brought us together. Obviously, for me, I
[10:48] Speaker 3: was like, this is a curse, you know, how does
[10:51] Speaker 3: this happen to me? But now I now being on
[10:54] Speaker 3: the other side of it and not only doing the podcast,
[11:00] Speaker 3: but we have a lot of different businesses that we're
[11:02] Speaker 3: doing together. I feel though, on a spiritual level, Lala
[11:09] Speaker 3: is a big.
[11:10] Speaker 4: Big part of my healing journey for sure.
[11:13] Speaker 3: It's like the person that caused the pain is now
[11:15] Speaker 3: healing the pain. It's it's the most beautiful thing and
[11:18] Speaker 3: the fact that I could see it now it's really
[11:21] Speaker 3: really refreshing because when I'm in turmoil or I'm having
[11:24] Speaker 3: a shitty day, or you know, she could tell that
[11:27] Speaker 3: something's up with me. She's the first person that I
[11:30] Speaker 3: turned to, you know, and it's so it's it's really
[11:34] Speaker 3: really great. I mean, look at she looks like a goddess.
[11:36] Speaker 3: Like that shirt you're wearing today, you.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Virgo, I dressed up for you, baby.
[11:41] Speaker 5: I feel the I feel the exact same way. I
[11:44] Speaker 5: had this moment the other day of thinking if if
[11:51] Speaker 5: my life were to go to hell in a handbag,
[11:53] Speaker 5: and I felt like I didn't have anyone to turn to,
[11:57] Speaker 5: you know, in in my little pod with with my
[11:59] Speaker 5: mom and my brother because my mom's been having some
[12:01] Speaker 5: health issues.
[12:02] Speaker 2: I was like, who would I call? And it was
[12:04] Speaker 2: just immediately Amber.
[12:06] Speaker 5: Because we can sit in silence together, which I think
[12:09] Speaker 5: that's very telling in relationships, is when you can be
[12:14] Speaker 5: with someone and not say a word and not feel
[12:18] Speaker 5: that it's an awkward silence.
[12:21] Speaker 3: Right yeah, Well, I find I find that in that
[12:25] Speaker 3: silence that we have together, that's like our spirits healing.
[12:29] Speaker 3: Like we as physical beings don't need to be talking,
[12:32] Speaker 3: But the energy between the two of us is our
[12:34] Speaker 3: spirits healing one another, you know, or comforting, giving, like
[12:38] Speaker 3: giving you that hug or whatever you need.
[12:41] Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm.
[12:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do have. So there's a placement called
[12:45] Speaker 1: the chiron placement in your charge. It's fairly advanced, more
[12:50] Speaker 1: people are talking about it, and it's where our deepest
[12:53] Speaker 1: wounds are. It's the wounds we came into this lifetime with.
[12:58] Speaker 1: It's the wounds we're ultimate here to heal in a
[13:02] Speaker 1: lot of ways. And it may have come up in
[13:05] Speaker 1: childhood a lot. It may have surfaced from like you
[13:10] Speaker 1: literally brought it in from your previous life. And you
[13:13] Speaker 1: both have chiron in cancer. So you share that placement,
[13:19] Speaker 1: both of you with the chiron in cancer. And that
[13:23] Speaker 1: is a wound that is around taking care of yourself,
[13:28] Speaker 1: and it can show up in motherhood, it can show
[13:31] Speaker 1: up in how we mother ourselves really, and so both
[13:36] Speaker 1: of you are on a journey this lifetime to heal
[13:40] Speaker 1: that wound, that chiron wound which is placed in cancer,
[13:45] Speaker 1: to heal kind of the way you mother yourselves, the
[13:49] Speaker 1: way you take care of yourselves, the way you turn
[13:51] Speaker 1: the energy inward, the way you nourish yourself to your core.
[13:56] Speaker 1: It's part of both of your life paths and it's
[13:59] Speaker 1: pretty strong, and you share that, and that's one of
[14:03] Speaker 1: the placements that you two really share where I was like, oh, okay,
[14:07] Speaker 1: they understand each other's deepest wounds. You may not even
[14:11] Speaker 1: realize that, but there was a soul recognition when you met. However,
[14:16] Speaker 1: you met like, oh, I have this wound. She has
[14:19] Speaker 1: the same wound. We're here to heal this wound of
[14:24] Speaker 1: really nourishing and taking care of ourselves. And then the
[14:27] Speaker 1: fact that you co parent together. That's why I asked
[14:30] Speaker 1: that question. You're learning, you're healing through the way you
[14:33] Speaker 1: mother your children together. That experience of co parenting your
[14:39] Speaker 1: children together is healing.
[14:40] Speaker 4: It's healing a wound.
[14:42] Speaker 1: That you may have developed in lifetimes ago, maybe even
[14:46] Speaker 1: together lifetimes ago.
[14:49] Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, because I just had this
[14:51] Speaker 3: feeling and it just occurred to me.
[14:54] Speaker 2: That I feel like, in whatever previous.
[14:57] Speaker 3: Life we came from, you and I were like really
[15:00] Speaker 3: good friends when we were like little, right like four
[15:03] Speaker 3: or five six, and I could see us playing together,
[15:06] Speaker 3: and then somehow we got separated, and then we both
[15:08] Speaker 3: came into this life. I came in first, and then
[15:11] Speaker 3: you came in a few years later, and then the
[15:13] Speaker 3: universe somehow brought us together under these weird circumstances that
[15:17] Speaker 3: we didn't understand.
[15:19] Speaker 4: That's what I feel.
[15:20] Speaker 5: That whole thing just gave me chills. That's like, that
[15:23] Speaker 5: is so beautiful to me.
[15:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you lead the way over. It's almost like
[15:28] Speaker 1: you're the older sister because you go first. You kind
[15:31] Speaker 1: of like make space.
[15:33] Speaker 4: And even you know.
[15:34] Speaker 1: What I was alluding to, which is your nodal returns.
[15:37] Speaker 1: So we have we have Have you heard about lunar
[15:40] Speaker 1: nodes like north nodes, south node, because I'll break that
[15:43] Speaker 1: down for you. And so there's placements in the sky
[15:45] Speaker 1: north node, South note and this is where our eclipses happen.
[15:49] Speaker 1: And so currently right now, in this moment, we're completing
[15:53] Speaker 1: a nodal cycle, which is Pisces and Virgo, and so
[15:57] Speaker 1: the north node is completing e streng through Pisces, the
[16:01] Speaker 1: South node is completing its journey through Virgo. And that's
[16:04] Speaker 1: why our eclipses for the past year and a half
[16:06] Speaker 1: have been on the Pisces and Virgo lines. Amber that's
[16:12] Speaker 1: where your current, that's where your needle nodes are or
[16:14] Speaker 1: where the current nodes are. So your natal nodes are
[16:18] Speaker 1: Pisces and Virgo, and so our journey this lifetime is
[16:21] Speaker 1: to walk from our south node. We're detaching from these
[16:26] Speaker 1: energies of our self. Note they are our comfort zone
[16:29] Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and we're walking towards the
[16:32] Speaker 1: energies of our north note. I find that when we
[16:35] Speaker 1: learn about our lunar node path, it's like a huge
[16:38] Speaker 1: unlock in our lives. And so amber for you, your understanding
[16:42] Speaker 1: and detaching from energies of perfectionism, same thing as Lalla
[16:47] Speaker 1: with her son sign in Virgo, you're detaching it's a
[16:51] Speaker 1: comfort zone for you to lean into unworthiness, to lean
[16:56] Speaker 1: into not feeling good enough, to lean into imposture syndrome.
[17:00] Speaker 1: That's how you sabotage yourself. And your path is through
[17:03] Speaker 1: these lower energies of Virgo, and so you're very much
[17:07] Speaker 1: healing those as well. And because your moon is in Virgo,
[17:11] Speaker 1: you have a deep understanding of that Virgo energy as
[17:15] Speaker 1: well from an emotional side, and so when something happens,
[17:19] Speaker 1: you emotionally feel unworthy, and then that almost feels like
[17:23] Speaker 1: a comfort zone, right, That almost feels uncomfortable to step
[17:28] Speaker 1: out of it. It feels uncomfortable to go, oh wait, no,
[17:31] Speaker 1: I am worthy, Oh wait, I don't have to lean
[17:33] Speaker 1: into that emotion. Right, that's new for you. That's a
[17:36] Speaker 1: new thing for you because you've come into this world
[17:39] Speaker 1: being attached to those lower energies of Virgo, and because
[17:44] Speaker 1: your moon's there, you have that emotional interplay as well.
[17:49] Speaker 1: And so your journey is to walk towards Pisces, where
[17:52] Speaker 1: your north note is placed. And that is this kind
[17:56] Speaker 1: of I'm okay, right, I am the universe.
[17:59] Speaker 4: The universe is me.
[18:01] Speaker 1: There are no boundaries, like, of course I'm worthy. I'm
[18:04] Speaker 1: the entire universe wrapped up in won like, obviously I'm
[18:08] Speaker 1: worthy of everything. Obviously I'm good enough. Oh I can heal,
[18:13] Speaker 1: Oh I can see that. There's really no separation between
[18:16] Speaker 1: me and other people in a good way. Right, And
[18:20] Speaker 1: you do have the infinite power and knowledge of the
[18:23] Speaker 1: universe and your intuition which will lead you through everything.
[18:29] Speaker 1: Now you're just completing an eighteen month nodal return, and
[18:33] Speaker 1: so that's wrapping up when the node shift July twenty six.
[18:37] Speaker 1: And so I find during a nodal return, things get
[18:40] Speaker 1: a little dicey, because the universe is going, okay, where
[18:45] Speaker 1: are you still attached to these low energies? Where are
[18:48] Speaker 1: you sabotaging yourself? Where have you not leaned into your
[18:51] Speaker 1: north node energy? And it will shine a spotlight and
[18:55] Speaker 1: illuminate those places in your life. And so it can
[18:58] Speaker 1: feel like this is a little dramatic. This is like
[19:02] Speaker 1: I'm going through something I thought I was done with
[19:04] Speaker 1: these things, Like it's intense again. Why am I revisiting
[19:07] Speaker 1: this thing from a different angle? What's happening here? And
[19:12] Speaker 1: so that is the nodal return journey. And I find
[19:15] Speaker 1: that the second nodal return, which you're in, we go
[19:18] Speaker 1: through them every eighteen and a half years. You're in
[19:20] Speaker 1: your second nodle return. That's the one where we can
[19:25] Speaker 1: finally break free of the south note and we can
[19:28] Speaker 1: really embrace the North note. But like any transformation is
[19:33] Speaker 1: not always easy.
[19:34] Speaker 4: No, wow, that's so powerful.
[19:37] Speaker 2: Geez, let's see it, bro.
[19:39] Speaker 1: I don't know what the last eighteen months have been
[19:41] Speaker 1: like for you. Something tells me, like when we first
[19:44] Speaker 1: talk and you were like murghury retrograde, I'm like, actually,
[19:46] Speaker 1: let's talk about your nodal return.
[19:48] Speaker 2: Because you know what it is.
[19:51] Speaker 3: I moved out to Montana last year and I didn't
[19:55] Speaker 3: know I was moving out here, and I kind of
[19:56] Speaker 3: just picked up and left La and I'm specially I
[20:00] Speaker 3: felt very drawn to Montana and it was it was
[20:01] Speaker 3: all the healing and I and I know that now
[20:03] Speaker 3: and I like went through a big like last October,
[20:06] Speaker 3: I went through a big emotional like I was, I
[20:09] Speaker 3: was not well and I was like what did I do?
[20:12] Speaker 3: But it was more of a spiritual cleansing. I needed
[20:15] Speaker 3: to grieve my marriage. I realized I never grieved my marriage.
[20:19] Speaker 3: I needed to kind of just like find myself, ground myself.
[20:23] Speaker 3: And like yesterday I was actually walking walking through doing
[20:26] Speaker 3: like a walking meditation, and there's in Bozeman, there's like
[20:28] Speaker 3: all these beautiful mountains, and I just kept saying to
[20:31] Speaker 3: myself out loud, like you have everything you need inside
[20:35] Speaker 3: of you. That just kept coming to me, like I
[20:37] Speaker 3: have everything I need, and not that that like I'm better,
[20:41] Speaker 3: that I'm like more powerful than my higher power that
[20:44] Speaker 3: I have.
[20:45] Speaker 2: It's just that.
[20:47] Speaker 3: I have everything I need. It's like my universes, like
[20:49] Speaker 3: we're all within me. And then now I just need
[20:51] Speaker 3: to like trust that m M.
[20:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to trust that, and you're you're rising
[20:57] Speaker 1: as Pisces, and so, like I said in the beginning,
[21:00] Speaker 1: and that's the energy that's rising within you that you're
[21:02] Speaker 1: understanding the deepest level. It's the energy that is so
[21:06] Speaker 1: you people see it before you've actually embraced it and
[21:11] Speaker 1: encouraged it within yourself. Like that's your rising in a
[21:14] Speaker 1: lot of ways. And your north node sits right on
[21:17] Speaker 1: your ascendant, so it sits right on your rising and
[21:20] Speaker 1: so this is an identity placement.
[21:22] Speaker 4: And so your journey.
[21:23] Speaker 1: This lifetime is to really realize that this Pisc's energy,
[21:27] Speaker 1: this I have everything I need within me. I am
[21:30] Speaker 1: the universe. It's contained within me. I don't need to
[21:32] Speaker 1: search outside myself for anything. I don't need to overperfect.
[21:36] Speaker 1: I'm worthy just by being me because everything is me.
[21:40] Speaker 1: This is core to your identity. This is you embracing
[21:45] Speaker 1: who you are this lifetime. It's central to you. It's
[21:48] Speaker 1: actually even more central than your son's sign. When you
[21:51] Speaker 1: have this strong of a placement on your ascendant, this
[21:54] Speaker 1: is like, oh yeah, this is the identity I'm learning
[21:57] Speaker 1: and growing into this life.
[22:00] Speaker 2: So if you can.
[22:01] Speaker 3: Give me any advice on like how to practice that
[22:04] Speaker 3: on a daily basis, you know, to remind myself.
[22:08] Speaker 2: What would you say, Well.
[22:10] Speaker 4: I would do meditation. You need to lean in to
[22:12] Speaker 4: do meditate.
[22:14] Speaker 2: I try, I do.
[22:16] Speaker 3: Like I Yeah, Like yesterday I did a walking meditation
[22:19] Speaker 3: because I felt like my energy I just needed to move.
[22:22] Speaker 3: I didn't need to sit put because I can go
[22:23] Speaker 3: in a really dark place if I sit still for
[22:25] Speaker 3: too long. But other times I wake up and I
[22:27] Speaker 3: sit outside and I'll meditate.
[22:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, nature is going to be key for you, just
[22:34] Speaker 1: to remind you, turning off the tax, sitting outside, reminding
[22:37] Speaker 1: you of your oneness. But meditation is going to be
[22:40] Speaker 1: huge for you. And Pisces I always say Pisces is
[22:43] Speaker 1: like the sign of meditation. But it's because when we
[22:46] Speaker 1: can really drop in and be completely present. Right, So
[22:50] Speaker 1: we're talking about full present awareness with your sensations, with
[22:54] Speaker 1: your emotions, with everything, not shying away from anything, like
[22:58] Speaker 1: leaning into it.
[22:59] Speaker 4: It's all just information.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Right.
[23:02] Speaker 4: If you the more you can do that.
[23:04] Speaker 1: And look, if you're showing up for yourself, you're meditating, right,
[23:07] Speaker 1: if you're sitting down for a minute, if you're taking
[23:09] Speaker 1: a walk, if you're trying, if you're just setting the
[23:12] Speaker 1: intention I'm meditating, like that's all you need to do.
[23:16] Speaker 4: I get this.
[23:17] Speaker 1: I get asked this all the time. I'm meditating correctly,
[23:19] Speaker 1: I'm thinking I don't do it right. It's too hard
[23:21] Speaker 1: for me. If you're trying, you're doing it. And it
[23:25] Speaker 1: doesn't have to be an hour. It doesn't have to
[23:27] Speaker 1: be perfect on a cushion. It can be guided, you
[23:30] Speaker 1: can listen to something. It all counts. And so that's
[23:34] Speaker 1: important for you to remember so that you don't beat
[23:37] Speaker 1: yourself up, because that virgo is going to want to
[23:40] Speaker 1: beat yourself up, right, And this is also applies to
[23:42] Speaker 1: the virgo sun sign over here that just smiles, right,
[23:46] Speaker 1: the virgo is always going to be like, not good enough, you.
[23:48] Speaker 4: Didn't do it right.
[23:49] Speaker 1: Right, You've got to be sitting on a cushion, spine
[23:52] Speaker 1: completely straight to no pain, with pums open, eyes closed,
[23:56] Speaker 1: not a thought in the world, Like that's what your
[23:58] Speaker 1: virgo is going to say, and like that's yes, Like
[24:01] Speaker 1: I've been meditating for twenty five years and like I
[24:03] Speaker 1: don't even get that. So it's just it's it's very difficult,
[24:07] Speaker 1: but as long as you're showing up for yourself, like
[24:10] Speaker 1: that's it, that's all you have to do and just
[24:13] Speaker 1: remembering that is going to help unlock right your pisces nature.
[24:18] Speaker 4: Great, I love it.
[24:19] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[24:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, and now a quick word from our wonderful sponsors. Yeah,
[24:27] Speaker 1: it's a lot simpler, right, but also just that full
[24:31] Speaker 1: present awareness with yourself, like leaning in. Like if you
[24:35] Speaker 1: did ever really want to dive in, I would send
[24:37] Speaker 1: you to apostana meditation, like a ten days silent retreat.
[24:41] Speaker 1: You'd probably think at some point you were losing your mind,
[24:44] Speaker 1: but like it would probably be the best thing for you.
[24:46] Speaker 5: By the way, there's no talking. No one talks for
[24:49] Speaker 5: ten days. Oh my god, you don't have to. Yeah,
[24:52] Speaker 5: you don't have to pull my leg. You know, I
[24:54] Speaker 5: was considering.
[24:55] Speaker 3: I was considering going back to rehab just so I
[24:57] Speaker 3: could have a vacation. I'm like, I I want to,
[25:00] Speaker 3: like just I need.
[25:01] Speaker 2: A vacation, but like a vacation that's like not silent.
[25:04] Speaker 3: I don't want to Yeah, I want to sit on
[25:06] Speaker 3: the I want like that spiritual.
[25:08] Speaker 5: So phone left somewhere else. You don't talk, I don't talk.
[25:13] Speaker 5: It's just start with three day.
[25:17] Speaker 1: Well, you know the funny thing about the pastna like
[25:19] Speaker 1: true vapasta, they don't let you do the three day
[25:21] Speaker 1: until you've done the ten day.
[25:23] Speaker 2: Love it. Sign me up for twenty days. I don't care.
[25:26] Speaker 1: What is longer, the better possuna, but passuna with a
[25:30] Speaker 1: v VIP.
[25:33] Speaker 2: Write down.
[25:34] Speaker 1: Girls, it's a ten day retreat. It's like no frills
[25:38] Speaker 1: and you just go and you sit with yourself.
[25:40] Speaker 4: And I'll have to.
[25:41] Speaker 1: Send you my book because I have a really I
[25:43] Speaker 1: have some funny stories in my book about my first
[25:46] Speaker 1: postuma retreat. I actually ended up getting the chicken pox
[25:50] Speaker 1: like three days into the retreat. So my first Papasta
[25:53] Speaker 1: treat was three days. That's how you can make it
[25:54] Speaker 1: three days. I wouldn't suggested, but oh my god, I'm.
[25:58] Speaker 2: Gonna have my eat prey love at thirty eight.
[26:01] Speaker 4: I love it.
[26:01] Speaker 1: Yeah you might, you might, but it's just so good
[26:05] Speaker 1: for getting into this like full present awareness and everything
[26:09] Speaker 1: comes up, every layer of your being, every emotion, every memory.
[26:12] Speaker 1: You have to face it all and sit with it
[26:15] Speaker 1: in silence. And they call it like the Navy Seals
[26:18] Speaker 1: of Meditation training and it will just.
[26:21] Speaker 4: And then you when you get home, you just drop
[26:23] Speaker 4: right in.
[26:24] Speaker 1: You're just like I want to send med say for
[26:25] Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and like you've kind of like broken the ceiling, right,
[26:28] Speaker 1: you just like drop right in when you do that with.
[26:31] Speaker 2: Me, Tenday's saw that. That's what I was just going
[26:34] Speaker 2: to ask.
[26:34] Speaker 5: Do you recommend like we do it separately or is
[26:38] Speaker 5: it something we could do together?
[26:39] Speaker 1: You could do together. You still won't talk to each other,
[26:42] Speaker 1: but yeah, you could do it together. Yeah.
[26:44] Speaker 4: You're not even supposed to make eye contact with people.
[26:46] Speaker 1: You're not even like supposed to like hold the door
[26:48] Speaker 1: open like. That was one of the hardest things, was
[26:51] Speaker 1: like all those like banners do like manners right, like
[26:54] Speaker 1: being a light, like holding the door open for somebody,
[26:57] Speaker 1: like you're not supposed to do.
[26:58] Speaker 2: Oh I want to live there.
[27:03] Speaker 4: Could be great, could be great.
[27:06] Speaker 1: On July twenty sixth, the nodes shift, so they leave
[27:11] Speaker 1: Pisces and Virgo, so amber your nodal return done. They
[27:16] Speaker 1: enter Leon Aquarius and guess whose nodes are in Leo
[27:20] Speaker 1: and Aquarius.
[27:21] Speaker 4: Oh no, my yours.
[27:23] Speaker 1: So you're entering your nodal return as she's leaving hers.
[27:27] Speaker 1: Now yours is going to have a different flavor because
[27:30] Speaker 1: now we're working with the south note in Leo and
[27:33] Speaker 1: the north note in Aquarius. That life path is going
[27:36] Speaker 1: to be different than Virgo Pisces. So you know, Aquarius
[27:41] Speaker 1: is the sign of the collective, right, Leo is the
[27:44] Speaker 1: sign of the self in a lot of ways. Right
[27:46] Speaker 1: when we think of Leo, we think of the center
[27:48] Speaker 1: of attention, the leader, the spotlight. And so your life
[27:52] Speaker 1: path is leaving the low energies of Leo. We don't
[27:55] Speaker 1: want to throw them all out, but the lower side.
[27:58] Speaker 1: So just like we talked about Amber leaving the lower
[28:01] Speaker 1: side of Virgo, the lower side of Leo are like
[28:04] Speaker 1: the drama for the sake of drama. Also, because you're
[28:08] Speaker 1: a Virgo's son, what's going to show up is the
[28:10] Speaker 1: need for approval. Right, the low side of Leo is, oh,
[28:15] Speaker 1: I'm going to do this because other people like it,
[28:18] Speaker 1: because other people approve of it. And so your life
[28:21] Speaker 1: path is saying like, I'm not going to do anything
[28:24] Speaker 1: for anyone else that I don't approve of myself, Like
[28:28] Speaker 1: I'm the only person I need to make happy. I'm
[28:32] Speaker 1: the only person who means to approve of this. I
[28:37] Speaker 1: don't need to let anybody else's opinions affect me. And
[28:41] Speaker 1: then you're walking towards Aquarius, which is the sign of
[28:44] Speaker 1: the collective, which is the sign of like, Okay, how
[28:46] Speaker 1: can I actually take everything I know and hand it
[28:51] Speaker 1: to the community in a way that involves maybe visionaries,
[28:56] Speaker 1: maybe like I think of Aquarius with our thought leaders,
[28:59] Speaker 1: our visionary and so teaching the community. And your community
[29:04] Speaker 1: could be your podcast community, it can be your viewers,
[29:08] Speaker 1: it can be anybody who is part of your platform
[29:11] Speaker 1: or larger audience. Right, how can I teach them what
[29:15] Speaker 1: I know in a way that's not about me, where
[29:19] Speaker 1: I'm not the center.
[29:20] Speaker 4: It's about them, Okay.
[29:24] Speaker 1: And so that's what your nodal path is all about
[29:27] Speaker 1: this lifetime, and you're about to enter your nodal return
[29:32] Speaker 1: second one.
[29:33] Speaker 5: My second and you said we go through two in
[29:36] Speaker 5: our lifetime. We go through every eighteen and a half years,
[29:40] Speaker 5: So every eighteen and a half eight and a.
[29:42] Speaker 1: Half years, so you know, it depends how long you live,
[29:44] Speaker 1: but we'll quite a few of these.
[29:48] Speaker 3: The click yours is we're not in it together. We're
[29:51] Speaker 3: like Yin and yang.
[29:52] Speaker 2: Right, Thank god you've supported.
[29:54] Speaker 3: Me during mine and now that you're entering yours, I
[29:57] Speaker 3: get to hold you.
[29:58] Speaker 4: M you can feel different for everybody.
[30:01] Speaker 1: Doesn't mean like everything's going to fall apart, yours is
[30:04] Speaker 1: going to be quite different because we're Leo and Aquarius,
[30:07] Speaker 1: and these are also in different houses for you than
[30:10] Speaker 1: they were for in Amber. So Ambers is very much
[30:14] Speaker 1: her identity. So it's very much almost like an identity crisis.
[30:17] Speaker 1: And that's probably where like the sudden move came from.
[30:21] Speaker 1: With you, it's going to be more about, Okay, what
[30:24] Speaker 1: are my beliefs, what do I know? Where might I
[30:27] Speaker 1: be showing up because other people want me to show
[30:30] Speaker 1: up in that space? And where do I actually want
[30:33] Speaker 1: to show up? And how am I going to define
[30:35] Speaker 1: my message to my platform based on what they need,
[30:40] Speaker 1: not necessarily what others approve of me?
[30:43] Speaker 5: For Wow, it's so I the fact that you're bringing
[30:47] Speaker 5: this up saying that that's what I'm venturing into. I
[30:50] Speaker 5: feel like I've already started having those moments of I
[30:56] Speaker 5: don't even want to call them resentment, but looking around
[30:59] Speaker 5: and and hearing all of these people give me their
[31:03] Speaker 5: opinions and me taking them on as if they're my
[31:06] Speaker 5: own and my own thought process, and then things kind
[31:09] Speaker 5: of go awry, and I get angry at everyone else
[31:13] Speaker 5: because I'm like, stop sharing your opinions. I don't want
[31:15] Speaker 5: those to be mine, and I don't want to take
[31:17] Speaker 5: on that thought process. It's almost like I ignore how
[31:20] Speaker 5: I'm feeling and what I want. So now we're actually
[31:24] Speaker 5: going to make the journey.
[31:25] Speaker 2: The nodes are making the journey.
[31:27] Speaker 4: You're making the journey. You're also in a Jupiter return here.
[31:32] Speaker 1: What does that meaning? Ever? So we've all heard a
[31:35] Speaker 1: sadder in return, right, that's when sadder and returns to
[31:37] Speaker 1: the place it was.
[31:38] Speaker 4: When you were born.
[31:40] Speaker 1: Jupiter return is when Jupiter returns to the place it
[31:43] Speaker 1: was when you were born. Your Jupiter is in Leo,
[31:47] Speaker 1: and that's a great placement for Jupiter. That's also where
[31:50] Speaker 1: your self note is, so your notle return is going
[31:53] Speaker 1: to hit a lot softer, maybe not softer, but less
[31:57] Speaker 1: intense than Ambers did because of the Jupiter return you're coinciding.
[32:03] Speaker 1: At the same time, Jupiter return is one of the
[32:05] Speaker 1: most beneficial years of your life, and in Leo you're
[32:09] Speaker 1: really being called into the spotlight and to take up space.
[32:14] Speaker 1: But again you're going to have that overlay of the
[32:17] Speaker 1: South node going. Don't do it for anybody else but you, right,
[32:21] Speaker 1: don't do it for seeking for approval for anybody else.
[32:24] Speaker 1: Don't take on anyone else's opinions. If they don't like
[32:29] Speaker 1: your idea, that's their problem.
[32:31] Speaker 4: Right, this is your year.
[32:32] Speaker 1: This is your time to take up space in a
[32:34] Speaker 1: larger way that's going to actually serve. It's going to
[32:38] Speaker 1: call in all of that virgois, it's going to call
[32:41] Speaker 1: in that north node in Aquarius. And so this is
[32:44] Speaker 1: like you're serving a platform, you're healing, you're spreading a message,
[32:49] Speaker 1: You're leading some way through how you think about things
[32:53] Speaker 1: in a unique way. And the people around you will
[32:56] Speaker 1: have opinions and want to try and direct you. They
[32:59] Speaker 1: may not get it. And this is your year to
[33:01] Speaker 1: stand firm in who you are and what you believe
[33:04] Speaker 1: and take up space.
[33:07] Speaker 2: You just gave me chills. I can't wait for this journey.
[33:10] Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in it.
[33:13] Speaker 2: Oh, it's happening. I can feel it.
[33:16] Speaker 3: It's happened about romantically. Where is it romantically for her?
[33:21] Speaker 1: Romantically? Let's see what's hitting your venus? And oh your
[33:28] Speaker 1: venus is in Leo too, So romantically this all actually
[33:33] Speaker 1: plays into because I always look at like, whenever I
[33:35] Speaker 1: get that question romantically, I'm like Venus, where's Venus in
[33:38] Speaker 1: your chart?
[33:39] Speaker 5: Right?
[33:39] Speaker 1: Venus is the planet of love and beauty. Your venus
[33:42] Speaker 1: is in your ninth house, also in Leo, and so
[33:45] Speaker 1: the south node is eventually going to make its way.
[33:48] Speaker 1: It's at twenty four degrees, so it's towards the end.
[33:51] Speaker 1: And so this whole story I just told you about
[33:55] Speaker 1: the Jupiter return and coinciding with a nodal return and
[33:58] Speaker 1: taking up space that's going to show up in your
[34:00] Speaker 1: relationships as well. And so it's a time to detach
[34:03] Speaker 1: from people pleasing, from seeking the approval of partners, from
[34:07] Speaker 1: doing things that it's just like this person shows up
[34:09] Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, they like this, so I'm going
[34:12] Speaker 1: to wear this outfit or I'm going to change my
[34:14] Speaker 1: hair that way, like that's all gone right, you know,
[34:17] Speaker 1: and even just like talking about certain things, like it's
[34:20] Speaker 1: going to be very apparent when you step out of
[34:25] Speaker 1: yourself and your sense of self and what's core and
[34:29] Speaker 1: true to you and start even just being like, oh,
[34:32] Speaker 1: they like this, so I'm going to like that, you
[34:34] Speaker 1: know that kind of thing, right, You're that You're not
[34:37] Speaker 1: going to be able to do that at all, like
[34:39] Speaker 1: not even the slightest bit. Now, when Jupiter makes its
[34:44] Speaker 1: way to your venus at twenty four degrees, which will
[34:47] Speaker 1: happen next spring. That's when it's going to like really
[34:52] Speaker 1: expand your ability to attract. And so that's going to
[34:57] Speaker 1: be attracting everything, attracting the right partner, attracting what you
[35:01] Speaker 1: want to manifest. And with Jupiter and Jupiter returned, you
[35:05] Speaker 1: don't have to do much. And so I like to
[35:07] Speaker 1: tell people this with Jupiter, Jupiter is generous. Jupiter is giving,
[35:12] Speaker 1: like you don't try too hard. So anytime you feel
[35:15] Speaker 1: yourself trying to force something, trying to make something happen,
[35:18] Speaker 1: just step back and go, I'm gonna let Jupiter handle this,
[35:21] Speaker 1: like Jupiter is just. Your job is to receive, and
[35:25] Speaker 1: when it's a resounding yes, say yes, even if it
[35:28] Speaker 1: scares you, Okay, and especially say yes if it asks
[35:32] Speaker 1: you to take up more space.
[35:33] Speaker 2: Okay.
[35:35] Speaker 4: When is my venus in whatever? I don't know.
[35:38] Speaker 2: You just said there's a lot of venus, Jupiter.
[35:41] Speaker 1: There's a lot of venus. There's not a lot of venus.
[35:44] Speaker 1: Your venus is in Gemini, is right at the bottom
[35:46] Speaker 1: of your chart, and so your love is a little
[35:53] Speaker 1: bit more hidden. And so the way your romantic partners
[35:58] Speaker 1: like you need somebody who can who can align with
[36:01] Speaker 1: you on the deepest soul level because your venus is
[36:05] Speaker 1: in Gemini at the very bottom.
[36:07] Speaker 4: Of your chart.
[36:09] Speaker 1: You need you need communication because it's technically in the
[36:12] Speaker 1: third house, but people who can go really deep with
[36:15] Speaker 1: you and you feel that you can really really trust,
[36:19] Speaker 1: Like trust is going to be one of the most
[36:21] Speaker 1: important things for you. And with the Gemini there you
[36:26] Speaker 1: there's always going to be a sense that is like, is.
[36:28] Speaker 4: Am I being tricked?
[36:29] Speaker 1: Is something happening here that I'm missing? But you need
[36:33] Speaker 1: people who can meet you at a very deep, very
[36:37] Speaker 1: intense level, like behind closed doors.
[36:41] Speaker 4: With the Vena, I.
[36:42] Speaker 2: Don't need that. I can stay right at the surface.
[36:45] Speaker 1: I mean that we all need that. But with Leo,
[36:48] Speaker 1: it's just it's a little different venus and Leo is
[36:51] Speaker 1: yours in your ninth house, so or at the top
[36:53] Speaker 1: of the chart. Here yours is a little bit more like, Okay,
[36:57] Speaker 1: let's like have fun, let's go to some let's travel,
[37:01] Speaker 1: let's experience the world together or amber. When it's that
[37:05] Speaker 1: deep in the chart, it's like nope, let's like lock in,
[37:08] Speaker 1: you know, on a retreat at home, like let's go deep.
[37:13] Speaker 4: You know, I think the way I'm an actor.
[37:16] Speaker 3: I think that's why like that happened, because I'm very
[37:19] Speaker 3: like I just needed to really, I see, I need
[37:21] Speaker 3: to relax and have a little fun and go party
[37:23] Speaker 3: and go do those things. Like I feel like that's
[37:25] Speaker 3: what I would need. But according to my astrological.
[37:27] Speaker 5: Chart, see, and I notice every time I say that,
[37:31] Speaker 5: I want, like, let's go deep, and in the moment
[37:33] Speaker 5: I feel like someone does, I'm like, I'm.
[37:34] Speaker 2: Just here to have fun.
[37:37] Speaker 1: I get the Ninth Time like I got to get
[37:39] Speaker 1: out of here. Yeah, I mean that's that's like the
[37:43] Speaker 1: Ninth House like Venus in Leo and the Ninth House
[37:46] Speaker 1: like yeah, they want to have fun.
[37:47] Speaker 4: Yes, you can go deep. Of course you can.
[37:49] Speaker 1: Go deep, and you want to be able to connect deeply,
[37:51] Speaker 1: especially the score. The Scorpio rising is going to want
[37:53] Speaker 1: to go deep, right, but the Scorpio rising also needs
[37:57] Speaker 1: trust as well. The Scorpio rising is also going to
[38:00] Speaker 1: be like when when you earn it, when you earn
[38:03] Speaker 1: my trust will go deep. Until then, we're traveling, we're
[38:06] Speaker 1: having fun, we're going out, we're doing things, we're shaking
[38:09] Speaker 1: things up. Also, like there's belief structure in the Ninth
[38:12] Speaker 1: House as well, where it's like okay, like, tell me
[38:15] Speaker 1: about your beliefs. Let's share beliefs, like, let's talk about it.
[38:19] Speaker 1: Let's have a fun debate back and forth. Let's have
[38:21] Speaker 1: that banter. You know. Now, Amber, yours in the IC,
[38:26] Speaker 1: yours is conjuncture. I see the deepest part of your chart.
[38:29] Speaker 1: You're like, no, we're going in. We're going We're going in.
[38:32] Speaker 4: We're gonna like lock in.
[38:34] Speaker 1: Let's just lock ourselves in a room for a week
[38:37] Speaker 1: and talk it all out. Let's talk about childhood, Let's
[38:41] Speaker 1: talk about this, let's talk about that. But trust is
[38:44] Speaker 1: also going to be central to you, Like you're gonna
[38:46] Speaker 1: need to trust them because of the Gemini. You're gonna
[38:48] Speaker 1: be like, is there a trickster at play here? And
[38:52] Speaker 1: now a quick word from our wonderful sponsors.
[38:58] Speaker 3: That's my biggest things going to be like yes, yeah,
[39:03] Speaker 3: And what the guy that happens was the guy.
[39:07] Speaker 4: The guy that I was dating.
[39:09] Speaker 2: I just asked him, like, where's your moon Sagittarius?
[39:15] Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so the moon is Sagittarius is what depends
[39:19] Speaker 1: what the house is. But moonon Statistarius is going to
[39:21] Speaker 1: want to have some fun. Like Statutarius is the sign
[39:24] Speaker 1: of like, okay, let's travel, let's explore. That's the ruler
[39:27] Speaker 1: of the ninth house, and so live off the land,
[39:30] Speaker 1: maybe Moon Sagittarius. They're they're in it for the experience, right,
[39:34] Speaker 1: They're in it for the expansion of consciousness. Is this
[39:37] Speaker 1: the guy you said it was like a hippie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[39:41] Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, Let's let's go experience some things
[39:44] Speaker 1: off the land on the gridge, off the gridge, you know, Jesus,
[39:48] Speaker 1: let's go find some lay lines bury some crystals, you know.
[39:55] Speaker 4: So I hope you get your Christals back.
[39:57] Speaker 3: Well, I have my massive I'll send you a picture
[40:01] Speaker 3: of my massive amethysts that I have in my garden
[40:03] Speaker 3: out front.
[40:06] Speaker 2: Isn't she beauty?
[40:06] Speaker 3: And I only brought her outside to re energize her
[40:09] Speaker 3: the other day when it was a full moon or
[40:11] Speaker 3: whenever the last full moon was, And I never brought
[40:14] Speaker 3: her back inside because I love walking into my house
[40:16] Speaker 3: and seeing her, like making eye contact with her, and
[40:18] Speaker 3: I'm like.
[40:19] Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, girl, she's stunning. You can put some
[40:23] Speaker 5: crystals in the apple orchard. You should do that. That's good,
[40:30] Speaker 5: the good.
[40:30] Speaker 2: Wow, this was very insightful.
[40:32] Speaker 5: I've never ye I don't think I've had a reading
[40:34] Speaker 5: like this before.
[40:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say too, like before
[40:40] Speaker 1: we wrap up, there's just a big theme in both
[40:43] Speaker 1: of your charts of Virgo. You have some interesting placements
[40:47] Speaker 1: too with like your mercury and how you communicate and Virgo.
[40:50] Speaker 1: And the theme that actually connects you to is Virgo
[40:55] Speaker 1: and Virgo is intuition. Virgo is being able to understand
[41:00] Speaker 1: that each of you might fall into patterns of unworthiness,
[41:04] Speaker 1: each of you might be able to fall into patterns
[41:07] Speaker 1: of imposture syndrome, right and connecting on that level. But
[41:11] Speaker 1: ultimately you're both here to help others heal. And once
[41:15] Speaker 1: you kind of step into understanding that you're both goddesses,
[41:19] Speaker 1: you're both perfect as is, you're both part of the
[41:22] Speaker 1: infinite universe and have all of that energy within you,
[41:25] Speaker 1: you can show up for yourselves, for each other, for
[41:28] Speaker 1: your community, for your children on a much larger scale.
[41:33] Speaker 2: I love that.
[41:35] Speaker 4: That's amazing.
[41:36] Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
[41:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Thanks for being open with everything and talking.
[41:42] Speaker 1: It's always fun when we can look at charts together
[41:44] Speaker 1: and see how they how they go.
[41:47] Speaker 5: I know, it's one of my most favorite things to do.
[41:49] Speaker 5: By the way, So thank you very much for having us.
[41:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming on and let me know, let
[41:56] Speaker 1: people know where to find you if they want to learn.
[41:57] Speaker 2: More Amber, I'm in Montana. No, I'm kidding. You know.
[42:05] Speaker 4: That's where you could find me right now.
[42:09] Speaker 3: No, so we our podcast is called an Unlikely Affair.
[42:12] Speaker 3: It comes out every Thursday night or Friday morning. Yeah,
[42:18] Speaker 3: I think anything else that I forgot.
[42:19] Speaker 5: Law Well, you can find you at is your instagram,
[42:22] Speaker 5: Amber dot Shielders.
[42:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know it's Amber Childers Underscore Official.
[42:27] Speaker 3: I know it's so wame. Amber Childers Underscore Official.
[42:31] Speaker 5: We'll put in love okay, thank you, and my instagram
[42:36] Speaker 5: is at La La Kent perfect.
[42:39] Speaker 2: Yep.
[42:40] Speaker 1: We'll put those all in the show notes so people
[42:42] Speaker 1: can find you and follow along your journey now that
[42:44] Speaker 1: they have this deeper insight in your charts and who
[42:48] Speaker 1: you are and what you're here to do.
[42:50] Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you so much again, thanks for.
[42:52] Speaker 1: Coming on to bye, thank you so much for listening today.
[42:58] Speaker 1: I hope this episode's part something within you, maybe a
[43:01] Speaker 1: new way of seeing yourself or a question worth sitting with,
[43:05] Speaker 1: or maybe it just helped you remember your power and.
[43:08] Speaker 4: If this episode resonated.
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[43:26] Speaker 1: and if you want to dive even deeper, show notes
[43:28] Speaker 1: and resources are available at spiritdaughter dot com. Until next time,
[43:34] Speaker 1: trust your timing, trust yourself, honor your path, and remember
[43:39] Speaker 1: the stars don't dictate your future, they illuminate it. See
[43:43] Speaker 1: you soon,

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