# The transatlantic bond

An episode of [EU Defence Declassified](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1852221702), 18 Apr 2023, 24 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/dcf78460/podcast/play/68834969/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-3-18%2F1f18603c-ef9c-d2a2-1f2c-3070b934ea6d.mp3

EU leaders have pledged to protect EU citizens and their values. But we've also seen that Russia's war in Ukraine has given NATO a sense of renewal and it is in fact NATO that many European governments have gravitated towards. In this third episode, we discuss with Maxime Roclore, EDA Senior Policy Officer, where the European Union fits into the puzzle of collective defence and what exactly it means to broaden and deepen cooperation between NATO and the EU.

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