# Penk's verbal nuclear bomb inflames defence debates

An episode of [Politics NZ](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1849044663), 5 Jun 2026, 16 min.

Audio: https://flex.acast.com/media.rnztools.nz/rnz-kete-oro-prod/video/private/ac_mp3,af_48000,br_192k,f_mp3,fl_attachment/v1780643366/audio/fop/fop-20260605-1830-penks_verbal_nuclear_bomb_inflames_defence_debates.mp3

In Focus on Politics, Russell Palmer recounts how and why a debate about nuclear free policy ended before it began, links to defence spending, and the impact on the relationship with Australia. Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details

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