# Ep 4 - Campaigns, characters and controversies (Part 2)

An episode of [What Were We Like](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1845439909), 21 Oct 2025, 50 min.

Audio: https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/c7d3b33c-f943-4afb-8665-b0b200e579f7/0887db98-33c9-4af7-ba73-b3720155d3d4/a43836b2-12f0-4e3f-b5e6-b37d006ce4f7/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=510a10ae-1082-48a7-961a-b3720155da9c

In the fourth episode of What Were We Like?, Diarmaid and Catriona talk about Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh’s remarkable offer to swap places with kidnap victim Tiede Herrema while he was in the Áras; and how Garrett Fitzgerald and Noël Browne were being talked up as possible candidates in the 1990 Presidential election. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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