# #WariUziKo: Ni iki mu by'ukuri imbuga nkoranyambaga na telefone bikorera ubwonko bwacu ku buryo bibubata?

An episode of [Wari Uzi ko](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1845297716), 13 Oct 2026, 29 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2538039/episodes/19947576-wariuziko-ni-iki-mu-by-ukuri-imbuga-nkoranyambaga-na-telefone-bikorera-ubwonko-bwacu-ku-buryo-bibubata.mp3



## Transcript

[0:08] SPEAKER_02: Waruziko ichro Chiara Jir Gwand Mugie kitalicia chera kijekuza Chingumu je ku yonjiera kugi inchi, haba hano murgwanda, de cheno higiano hino kuisi, ni bigobi fashaba nuki gobotora ububa tapgi kore shobjikora nabuhangan hizi telefoni ali ko chane chani.
[0:38] SPEAKER_02: Bizabari bigobi fashaba nuki gobotora ububata, bginbu ganghwen yambaga.
[0:43] SPEAKER_02: Servisi ukuvurabawa nu ububata bga skrin, changwa se ekran, tchangwa si bi virahuri bjibjum abji kora nabuangang haza telefoni, tablete, muda so gani vindi bikore e sho, abanuba kweshibi nutkwese dukunda hokivu gumbuga ghore nyambbaga, uchini bichine yza video, gutega kumichino, kuriba za video, kumba mazguni mindi bjinsi, dukore sh biuma.
[1:05] SPEAKER_02: Vuba chane, ibi go bi furubu bata bgibi bikore sho bizi yonjiera.
[1:09] SPEAKER_02: Kandi kuvugubu wata, viza nanu kuvumbura imiti ifurugo wubata.
[1:14] SPEAKER_02: Bia shuba kachane kumu yechi zaza, chitari chinini, tuza jatkumba abama maza servise, netseni miti wa tanga, ichizu bata bga telefoni, nimu gang kwanybaga.
[1:24] SPEAKER_02: Ivi nubi zindi zamafanga menchi chane mumifuko ymuguje zivura ubu wata.
[1:28] SPEAKER_02: Kubera kuba zajeba guri xi servise, kuba nba tandu kanye, vite weni miyaka bafite, netsen uwe gubariho mukatu na telefoni, jumi hariko.
[1:37] SPEAKER_02: Bashwara kuza jabba guri shimiti, bavuga kujene ugi cheru naka chubonhu, chijiruhare mukubatku na telefoni, changwa sizini screen.
[1:45] SPEAKER_02: Baza jabuga ku ubgu mhub gumunu mukuru, wuta mezenhu ginjin bi changwa sungangavu.
[1:50] SPEAKER_02: Vidyoko wata kuitam gawjemye mukuwakura mu gobata.
[1:54] SPEAKER_02: Baza jabakub gia kugo mhub gungana ujdita mambuga, uta mezenhu gumun hu kuze, mugreva na nokubatwa, virtyoku mgana, akwiye kwita gomugi harie.
[2:03] SPEAKER_02: Nibio, abana bato i miaka kuva kurumwe, nabo baba basu kenizi telefoni.
[2:08] SPEAKER_02: Decenama ma shue kumbuga khone yambaga, changwa sahandikun internet.
[2:12] SPEAKER_02: Mhubu, kurubuga gwa youtube, video erebge chane kursi zindi zo se ni yit kwa baby shark dance.
[2:20] SPEAKER_02: Ni video ya abana.
[2:21] SPEAKER_02: Yereb ginshuro miliara chumi na zini, na milioni maganabini.
[2:25] SPEAKER_02: Nibuke ni video yajeni wabana, bate tunze telefoni, bata gira internet, wata gira mafaranga.
[2:31] SPEAKER_02: Ibjowa habgab jose, babi wanababan jegu kanji shakurira.
[2:35] SPEAKER_02: Na video yakabi yyarebge chane kuva youtube beyabaho, na yo yajeni wabana, yitwa wheels on it.
[2:42] SPEAKER_02: Niashen ya youtube yabanyamberka itwa kokomelon.
[2:45] SPEAKER_02: Ymaze kureb ginchula miliara ichenda, na milioni magana tatu.
[2:49] SPEAKER_02: Kwiz video zajenu wabana, zarebbe kur shizindi zo se.
[2:53] SPEAKER_02: Bisawanyoka zireba zababase, kandufa fitimiaki vidi, itatu changwa sine.
[2:58] SPEAKER_02: Umhergo wambere kwisi, ilon mask, ayru se kwaz gonu mwya makruwa ma podcast witwake timi lare, itinatechire za kuchavumbue, aikwa chikaba chare jizu mmaru muto kuruti byo chyanjije.
[3:09] SPEAKER_02: No kuvuga ichinu chavu mbu echika anji zabjinchi, kursi byo chachi zije.
[3:14] SPEAKER_02: Maze mask, amusuizakuchinu arutu videu tu gufi dusigwa kumbuga nyambaga.
[3:18] SPEAKER_02: Short form videos.
[3:20] SPEAKER_02: Yana kuresye zizamburi kumei, awgakuturia tu video ngotu wazu gomu.
[3:25] SPEAKER_02: Ugob javo zwenumwe hirgwa wambekuisi, kandi wachi gwenu vumbuzimikora nabuhanga, a gomba kuwazi javuga, murguanda, nam mwalihari ariko kurgwe guru gwisi, umu namarani brama saha atanu nimi no teminongutanu, ali kurikuri telefoni, kumunsi.
[3:39] SPEAKER_02: Telefoni nyinchi, djumni hariku iphone, wuri chungeru, zoheleza banyirazo raporongufi, i gara gaza masa abazi mazehomuli chio chungeru.
[3:48] SPEAKER_02: Haraba swara kujeza kumasa hamirungenu munani.
[3:50] SPEAKER_02: Muminsi ringujizi chungeru, uga sanga ibiri murio, ya imaze kuri telefoni.
[3:56] SPEAKER_02: Ichini dye ureva kuri telefoni awe iminu tvidi, ukonjelu kabika, uga swira mubjo urimo, hashi mino tichumi, ukonje ukairebaho, ukamrahimi no tita tu, hashli sahu konjera, bere ugusinzira ukaimarahisa hajose, ichiye chyose, udite r njije, nichytiva mya masa hajose.
[4:13] SPEAKER_02: Ni chi mubgyukuri izi telefoni, ni indi bikore subji kora nabuhanga vi kore mgonhuga tru.
[4:18] SPEAKER_02: Kurjovi wubata.
[4:20] SPEAKER_02: Ese bi tu girinji, kurusukko bi duhu genji.
[4:23] SPEAKER_02: Ni vihe biwazobjom mutkwe bivaku kubat kwa na telefoni, ni mbugawana nyambaga.
[4:27] SPEAKER_02: Kubere wanimi bande, izimbuga nyambaga zigrizi henga ruka.
[4:32] SPEAKER_02: Esu muwe waba jene viyhura ku ginichi, uturuka kwore kwa gyimbuga nyambaga.
[4:37] SPEAKER_02: Haga tibyo izimbuga zachi zije mumbira hoya tru niby zanji nibi hebji.
[5:25] SPEAKER_02: Gakos gwurguanda, wute winghunga numbu jango, I just trust.
[5:28] SPEAKER_02: Bugalaga za kumi longu nenagatu nibichebita tukuija, nabiru giruku gurguanda, rukure shimbuga nyambaga, rufitaga hindaga kabije.
[5:36] SPEAKER_02: Nabba kwareishi zimbuga kuwe ra kwa fitaga hinda gakavi.
[5:39] SPEAKER_02: Ahuba wftaga hinda gakavije, kuwera koba kweshi zimbuga.
[5:42] SPEAKER_02: Mirongita tuna karin nnichebi ngkwijana, djeba zjene, bakweshimbugahonura nyambaga mu Gwanda.
[5:47] SPEAKER_02: Boba fiti chivazo chumuhanga ykukavije.
[5:50] SPEAKER_02: Makumyevi nagatanda tuni bichebine kwijjana, boba fiti chivazo chubgi gunje, no kumba baribo njine.
[5:55] SPEAKER_02: Ivi nubi sani bi tangaje, kuwe era kwizi imbuga, zare me ugufasaban hugusava na nabandi.
[6:00] SPEAKER_02: Umunufita ba mukurichira ivihumbbihe zwiijana, ari kwa kwa fiti chibazo chubgi gunje.
[6:06] SPEAKER_02: Imuguce mukwita kwafiti bazo bjumu mutwe, doktor Selestam mutuimana, wwana shinzi chigo ubaho smile institute.
[6:13] SPEAKER_02: Ijeze kufuga ku imbugahwa nyba chane chani tiktok, ijiruhari rukome, mukwanji zuzima bgum mutkwe guru diukur gunchi murwanda.
[6:20] SPEAKER_02: Agaragazbuenxi, mwwakuzi, bakomi mita nukanye.
[6:24] SPEAKER_02: Adatinya gufata telefoni kwa fungguri tiktok, nubuya wari mukazikeensi, umukore sha muriho, anamuri ruhande, amusa wakuranjizibiya musabje gukora.
[6:33] SPEAKER_02: Uriwe se muritwe, ujimunsa fitugoko kobubi guzima.
[6:37] SPEAKER_02: Afitu wzima abamuzibo sebazi, uwuzima goku jirawa tura, aboba babana, aboba korana, bamuzi mumazina, bahura wakagani nabakamu koraho baga gasanjira.
[6:48] SPEAKER_02: Icha ringariko, buriwese muritwe, anafitu wundi wuzima bongi korana nabuhanga, ugubita vatcho life, no wuzima bokumbuga nyambaga, aumu nawafita bandi bihumbi ba mmukurichi rabitku shuti, na wakajira bandi bihumbi akuriki labitkui shhuti.
[7:03] SPEAKER_02: Kubira kwa bongi korana nabuhanga nyine, nabgani gwangakwa bawa waziranye, gwe warahuye.
[7:08] SPEAKER_02: Ichiru kuri, no kuburiwe se akuribi showwa kandivida shoboka, ngawabanu, bambu wone neza.
[7:14] SPEAKER_02: Uriwe se mrubu wuzima, ashaka kubam niza mburanga.
[7:18] SPEAKER_02: Iri kora nabuhanga jara nabjoro heje.
[7:20] SPEAKER_02: Dishirahu wurjoba gutunga nya mafotonama video, kubujoburiwese abarim nisa.
[7:25] SPEAKER_02: Uriwe se muru buzima gumi koran nabuhanga kandi abari muguchi.
[7:29] SPEAKER_02: Burigi tondo abjuu kafiti ashaka gusobanduribanu, kuijesgu wrima kufuga muricho je.
[7:34] SPEAKER_02: Buriwe se kandi muribo araseta, muribu wzima.
[7:37] SPEAKER_02: Buriwese, nu muchire, kanda koru kwashuwaye kosu utiri gabandi wa kabu wona.
[7:42] SPEAKER_02: Buriwese uwuzimabgeburo ro se chane, ujeran genubgabandi wa sige.
[7:47] SPEAKER_02: Videoze, azifatira muruhande wugare gare ne ezar gwaha tuye, changwa sa kazi fatiri wabandi.
[7:52] SPEAKER_02: Muzima wusanzwe, ho kensi, abatuzi inatku twa tubazi, kuwe rakura tu rany, chyangwa se dufitau duhurira.
[7:59] SPEAKER_02: Ariku muzimabwgi kora nabuhanga, ho abatuzi nhabgo tubazi.
[8:04] SPEAKER_02: Avanwensi, dukurichira umusi kuundi, ture vijova kora, tkumviwa vuga, veensi nabguturahura nabo inbona hubone.
[8:12] SPEAKER_02: U shoba gusangwata nabaho.
[8:14] SPEAKER_02: Nya maribjova kora, ivjobere kananibjova vuga, nabbu vibraku tu girahu ingaruka muzima wusanzwe.
[8:21] SPEAKER_02: Umunganinya kachangwa se uruta, wiza mashuri mensi kungurusha, wwana tandjia kazi mbereye, kumu wwna kumbugawana nyambaga yere kanakwasge ru muherwe, nete kuzi mabgebujo shye chane, vi si gaben shimu zobyom mutwe, bate cherezakuzi mawgawu nachi nchinibuze.
[8:38] SPEAKER_02: Bishobarakwinhanda royokwiheva, kwjiraga hindaga kavije, ishari nibindi bibjin shbi shinyye kuzi mgum mutwe.
[8:45] SPEAKER_02: Na mgu shobara kubara mbwarewa jjene, bumbu wzi mabgabu nhachi nchinini buvuze, ataru kobar gwae, ataru kwa mfugi, ahubo kwera kwa tajphon.
[8:54] SPEAKER_02: Wa mubbiuta sachin zazi joro, achili mubitozi ukamuwa zangongu kware ki, atasuyaje, agaita kugira tima iphon.
[9:02] SPEAKER_02: Murubu wuzima gongi kore nabuhanga, tkwese, du sanababa mumdu gudu umne, changwase ababana munzu.
[9:09] SPEAKER_02: Ivi jezgweho, bi bari bimne.
[9:11] SPEAKER_02: Twese tugani rabimne, bite wenibi hiruka kubaho.
[9:14] SPEAKER_02: Tumaribinya chmiama saha dutrizi mitwema telefoni, ture bibifuga kuri chachi nuje ruka kubaho.
[9:20] SPEAKER_02: Hanyuma, awutu wonaniye muzima wusan zgubgi mbona hubone, tuka bifugao, kandi tubifugawa ngabanhu babizi la nyehu.
[9:28] SPEAKER_02: Bimiranga hari nhurut kware kwa tanje, tuka isuwbika, tukabatui su kuye.
[9:33] SPEAKER_02: Uwzimabwongi kwa nabuhanga, wchizabangebu ki chabandi.
[9:36] SPEAKER_02: Vini mumitere reba anhu wose, ahuba vebba kajera, kwifuza, no kujiru shachembo kumenyebjin shiku kubuzima gababandi.
[9:43] SPEAKER_02: Ivi gani nobjinshi tujana hagatia tru, iwabivuga kubandi.
[9:48] SPEAKER_02: Mishuri, twi givyakos gweni giafuzgwebandi.
[9:51] SPEAKER_02: Mumivereho yyose, twahuzima twujere ranyanu gabandi, kandini mivereho karimanuyatru.
[9:57] SPEAKER_02: Tweese, twifuza kumenyu kwa bandi babayeho, morgu e gurgo kujire ranyanabo, viga tumatumeyeho duhagaze, mumivereho.
[10:05] SPEAKER_02: Yumi nyhuriumunu wajizibjago, kyanwa se wahuye nbivazo, nabubji shimira, ali kuhanu hamge muriwawe, hazamakanu kakugira kuni wurawe uzimabgawib giza kur shuguri mubivazo.
[10:17] SPEAKER_02: Niumambu inhurunbi zikuruban wen shikane.
[10:21] SPEAKER_02: Kumen nyibja bandi, biri murika mereyachu, kubujo ufite byosu chene mumbibereho yawe, aliko kumenji chokaruna kabariye, changwa singa noema farangabatunze, vika makuringye nzi kuriwawe, ukaya shachi shur namawa.
[10:34] SPEAKER_02: Izimbuganhu na nyambaga dukureza, zaba ibi kumerzwa, de tava zishinze baba baherwe, baba banhuba yobo yisi, kuberakwo imitere ya tru, ba ymenyachi kare, mazebuwa kimbuga zorohezawa gutanga riza isiose uzi mabgababu.
[10:48] SPEAKER_02: Maze nabandi bose bifuza kumyu uzi mabgabandi, bakabu nahwa kura yma kurbi tabagoye, kandi kubunu.
[10:54] SPEAKER_02: Ibi nubi biribingye nzibjatu mbuganghwore nybagazi hinukitanga za kuri yisi, nuko zuba chieku gufa shawa nu kumenya ibjabandi, detenu gufa shaban gushaka u koba kunganabandi, u yumunsi, nabu shaka gushaku mugawe changwa se gusha kumgore, ari kawa wu kumbuganghore nyambagani bokmeza gushirama foto ybukwgabo, viza rangja nautanje guteza kobja kaba ibjizu sha su mugore changwa su mugabu, huti tai kuomu zashaka nahazava, changwa sahuza kuri bisabga, wicho ykurwa chibeho.
[11:22] SPEAKER_02: Kuvisi abahho, nabu yo gituma naho bukweshikora nabuhanga wgijezebubaho, gomuhuza ba nwensi, abatonabakuru, gobuteza machimbira nemeshi mubanhu, bubanni shabanu, wuchize wangebgi chabandi, gunguraban hu Homja bandi, wuinduru wuzima niniwehu yse kurichizima, kandibjose murio toro sheguusobanu rumunhu aliwe weese.
[11:43] SPEAKER_02: Nimbuga nyabaga.
[11:45] SPEAKER_02: Uyumunsi, Ushawa te kereza internete gugu.
[11:49] SPEAKER_02: Kuvabanuazakuriisi, Baba Yhuzima, Basaba kuba barahanhu na kaha garagara fatika.
[11:55] SPEAKER_02: Twa kwa gingienon dende tukajakuisoko, guhaha, tuka koringienon dende, tokajagu senga, toka koringienon dende tukajakui shuri no gusurabanhu.
[12:04] SPEAKER_02: Uyumunsi do tuemu yugu tituwa internete, and sebam bajituye muchani kuturushatwese.
[12:10] SPEAKER_02: Niugutumenye mama kuru, toka chijira mibi no jinsi, tuhaha senjira, tuhaha hira, tuhachu Riza, tuhasuri labanhu, tukahaganira, tukahuchiri in shuti, tuka honberizindi, tua korenama, buriruganhora nyambaga, ineguyargo, nabgaru kubanaban, uben shiva koresha bion nyine, awgurban fitinhego, yukomu ru Koresha, mukarutindaho, wuryogizabugu tuma abanu batinda, changwa seba kamarumanya munini kurizimbugarero, nukumeny wurju gonghub gabu detenimi tkwarevo bikora.
[12:43] SPEAKER_02: Ivi go bitizimbugahwan yambaga, vi kore shimguchy mugimi techerezze zikora nabjaha finaba injine mnikora nabuhanga, mukuwa kizombuganjine, abarero, yoba hujimi korere, bakura byo se bituma abakore shbuganhora nyambaga zitindaho, de tizi kavabata.
[12:58] SPEAKER_02: Mokuri youtube, yurebje video, iranjiye, baguchiraho, ikuri kiyho, utijezu i kandaho, kandika vi mibinu yagu sanabjam maze kureva.
[13:07] SPEAKER_02: Niwa kunzimaze kureva, ikurikiyho nayo ura ireva.
[13:10] SPEAKER_02: Kuri facebook, baba kora kurio video zidiho, zitangina no kufuga, changase kuchi nan mokuwa vifuga, utarana zikandaho, babjita attention economy, uchuruzi, no kukungu shinyye kukuita, bgahunabanu.
[13:24] SPEAKER_02: Nichimbugahwan yambaga zikora.
[13:26] SPEAKER_02: Inbuga mhora nyambaga, zare mye mugonhubgachu ibjobita mimetic desire.
[13:32] SPEAKER_02: Mimetic desire, no gufati chififuza chundi munu, ukanishira mumutko awe, nahari chawe, utaziku kuri monokubikora.
[13:40] SPEAKER_02: Nitkuebj se kuricho nyinegifituzi magomu mutwebu nibibazo kursi vin dibjose anjirize.
[13:46] SPEAKER_02: Uzi mabgachu guzu mokkifuza.
[13:49] SPEAKER_02: Izimbuga zanimgu kobu vibib gibjifuzo abanu banjira, bekabanji zimiverehu.
[13:54] SPEAKER_02: Ugu kobamberebgi fuzo, dutergu nizimbuga, ugi t kwa external mediator of desire.
[14:01] SPEAKER_02: Ivinibi korgwa josebjokuwa kamo mutkewawe ibji fuzo gibin uda shoba kubana, pitiunu kwaribiliawe, ibin hubi henze utawana mikoro, changwa sibin mitana shoboka, changosugasangutana bye merewe.
[14:13] SPEAKER_02: Hano ningihe wawana kumbugahone nyambaga amafotoye kristiano Ronaldo, uga kundi twaze, ukazifuza, kandi wenhaba tanazi chruza, niwawazi chruza, ama faranga zigura, yagutungguzima gwibgose wusi ge.
[14:27] SPEAKER_02: Ekstano mediator of desire kandi.
[14:29] SPEAKER_02: Ningiye wawana inzukristiano atuyemo, ukumvra yifuze.
[14:34] SPEAKER_02: Kandi gewanawe turabizi kuta shobara kuiywa chira.
[14:36] SPEAKER_02: Na ubugawe urabizi ku showa zibgawe, wuta kwe mira kuwa kionzu.
[14:41] SPEAKER_02: Ububbo kubgo kifuzi in hurero uda shobara kujirahu.
[14:44] SPEAKER_02: Wutuma naguhanga nagu shoboka, hagati awe, nyiru kifuza, na nyiru gutungi chychinu.
[14:50] SPEAKER_02: Na gu shobara kuiyumvamo kuhanga yena kristiano Ronaldo, wokubera kakurushin zunziza.
[14:55] SPEAKER_02: Changwa sego umbuhanga yenungami ubonje reza kubera kwa kurusa wukungwa.
[14:59] SPEAKER_02: Muri mache, ichini chicho chivinhui fuza, ariko bika winwiri hanze yisiwa we ubarizwamo.
[15:05] SPEAKER_02: Ubujoko kuifu zabgambere, bushobara kubukuri, changwa se bukana shingira kuminwitabaho.
[15:11] SPEAKER_02: Nzabanu wa kundu muichinywa filmme, baga tangira kuiga nibi bere ho yachinyye muriyo filmme runaka.
[15:17] SPEAKER_02: Nya mariomibere hubifuza bana tange kuigana, ubayon nibahu, nwa bi chiny nabahuko.
[15:22] SPEAKER_02: Ubundi burjobga kabiri, bbu kifuza, gwwa kwa nizibugahwan yambaga, wgit kwa internano mediator of desire.
[15:29] SPEAKER_02: Ivino nyonu kuifuza, kuba kabanhu tu wana kumbugahora nyambaga, aiku to kwa tuna bazi, lingana nime tukajetuna hura, changwa seba kababanhu dushuwana no kumyana, kumera kwa tuye mujihu chingatwe.
[15:41] SPEAKER_02: Abanaba nudukorana, abut kuigana, changwa sawu dukorana, ba shoba no kuba inshutizachu.
[15:47] SPEAKER_02: Abanga wa yuba shizekumbugahora nyambaga ma foto, changwa samakuru agara gazibjo bajezeho, changwa sagara gazibjwa fite, aga shirama foto yajie mu viuhuko dubai, changwa sea guzimodo kansya, bi tabiture mami jifu zubjit kwa internano mediator of desire.
[16:03] SPEAKER_02: Ababa no biru rusheki gire ranya nabo, kube rako tura nahura turababona.
[16:07] SPEAKER_02: Biro shekire ranya nabo, dese no kuba jiridi shari, kujiridi shari umuniga, u yumunsa kava fita kazi keza, kukurusha, biro rushe.
[16:16] SPEAKER_02: Ujobanbergokwifuza, ibjava anhu utazi, mudashora no guhuhura, mokifu zubiza noutun zbiama memuza mahanga, bivuaku aliko kifuza kubi, kunajinga u kazi kumecha and kumjitwa eni bereba koreshimboganhu and yambaga.
[16:29] SPEAKER_02: Harumandizi, akavanarugye meza mimo, witua luk bogi, ubifugahu.
[16:34] SPEAKER_03: The danger with external mediators of desire, with keeping up with people that are very successful, with people that have modeled a certain kind of life.
[16:44] SPEAKER_02: Agaragazaku vibu kifuza, ijaba muba hiriwe, ariko uka wudashovara kuji jezaho, aruko uku kifuza kwawe, kudashwara kujiru mupaka is a ibio bitumawifufuzi widashoka.
[16:56] SPEAKER_02: We desire bitum rengi mibi zawkifuza go, just muja yzakwumu u tariwe mujukuri.
[17:02] SPEAKER_03: The kind of person that we don't feel that we currently are.
[17:05] SPEAKER_02: Ivinibyo bisunikira bam muritwe, gukora ibyo tate kerezagakoba kora, biti yonuko tari kwa rijeze tubi wana muriango mugali tu mamo.
[17:13] SPEAKER_02: Ibi korgomu kiambi kuza kukaru banda, kuvugi vida kuriye, gukore shivywja genje, nindi minit kware u shobara kuwana kwida kuye.
[17:22] SPEAKER_02: Ahani nawaga hindaga kavijeje, ni tviwazu jomutwe.
[17:26] SPEAKER_02: Umware winjimbi naba ngavu, bapfavia huye.
[17:29] SPEAKER_02: Waza mutomiru kutatunarim e kwijana.
[17:31] SPEAKER_02: Ni wurawim naka, aban murio nime nibi mbibagana tatu, bajere jezakwiyahura.
[17:35] SPEAKER_02: Uyumunsi nubgambere kuvi siya abahho, kuyehura bi ba y mamviageta twiy nfumuru dirukuriagatimia kumi, nama kumye brin nine.
[17:43] SPEAKER_02: Ichinuchambere dutinya kur shivindi bjose, no gutandu kangwana bandi.
[17:47] SPEAKER_02: Kumba bandi, bame zeneza, kandi uta mezeneza, kurio mwa utachiru memurivo, ni chochinhu riwese muritub gatinya.
[17:55] SPEAKER_02: Na ba nwen xi biyahura kuberinzara, chyangwa suwi chene.
[17:59] SPEAKER_02: Imanvunya mukuru itumu mumu nafati kemezo chokuyamburuzima.
[18:02] SPEAKER_02: Iku merguimbarutso, no kwiba z chyru banda ruza kufugaho, nu kumeza kubaho.
[18:07] SPEAKER_02: Gukur gwa mubandi, nina chojihano umuriangwa chwa fashe, gijano chirutibindiose, kuitwa e navi.
[18:13] SPEAKER_02: Ibi hugubjinsi, jame zeguagare kihano chirufufu, kubera koti da kome hugufa tumuunhu, ukamukura mubandi, ukamuchira ahame ya kwa ta chiri mubandi, kubera konha gimezenhabu, awoni muri gireza.
[18:26] SPEAKER_02: Kuvachera chane, ijano chab gabanu, bago me chirizia, ijikume nabgaru kubatku yika, augo no kubiu kanamu diangwa chirisia.
[18:36] SPEAKER_02: Turi minya wzima bikunda kuba mubandi, kuriakugu kura mubandi, a to yhanu kuriburichha jikomei, ngimamvu inbugahora nyambaga, zijiru harim gutumabanubamme, bomba kobatachi mubandi, kuberakoba the fitivandi barimkugar gazakova fiti.
[18:50] SPEAKER_02: Avanu wen sh baitamokuva mrubuzima, Awkubahuba Zineza Kobatachiri Mubandi.
[18:55] SPEAKER_02: Ichinichojikanji sho Chimbuganhora nyambaga.
[18:58] SPEAKER_02: Nutitkua gucha, nabuza wmezingabandi, abanuwaza guchi kao, Ichigaragazakova andu waguchiho, changaseba tachigu fatamu murivo, nu kibjuza handika, bataza bikun, changasengoviraquis.
[19:12] SPEAKER_02: Eh, ituzavuchi wemurianguabandi, gimanwitegu kwande kibinyoma, we tegu yokwambarbusa, we te we gukiraquizimbuzi da kizuguango, we tegukui korguanebi da korgo, kurule abakuricha kumbugangore nyambaga, ba hindu kiv jamamare.
[19:28] SPEAKER_02: Ngwuku uki tua fake news, changwasama kuribi nyoma, kumbanghora nyambaga.
[19:34] SPEAKER_02: Eh, bjose, risa now jarbiteku, izimbogas gitanjira.
[19:38] SPEAKER_02: Yimboganghore nyambagazu se.
[19:40] SPEAKER_02: Zubachiwe kuba tavazi koresha.
[19:42] SPEAKER_02: Yorukura shia jime, rugu tajika kuza kugaruka.
[19:46] SPEAKER_02: Wurigi yonanandichin kukurifesbo, changase kunstagrame, changwasenhashirai foto, wuri kanya machaka kugaruka, kureba ichavan wabi fuzeho.
[19:55] SPEAKER_02: Muriva na numu menya munu, amaranga mutima yushu toranyi, uruguango, ishari, igi shimo, no kifuza, niomaranga mutima asuni chumunhu kuribinu mugewgi subiramu.
[20:07] SPEAKER_02: Kujanga banhuwahoza maso, kumbugahwanan nyambaga, hagumbakwahaba yho ukutumvi kananaba handibanu, bakorefi zombugahora nyambaga, myeze mu gutera na magambo, mwurgewuta ziguye, chyanggo se mu kubabi gara gajze uko uta meze, kandu gifuza.
[20:20] SPEAKER_02: Uyumunsi inbuganhora nyambaga nindi kuruhande iringanyye ningi tu giendamo, ivi tinamabwe.
[20:27] SPEAKER_02: Mumu menya munhu, nubuzima wwomu mutwe, habahi ngwara yitwabs koze.
[20:31] SPEAKER_02: Ni nwara awmu na jbi techere zona ranga mutima, vihabanye nukuri kwahanze.
[20:36] SPEAKER_02: Hakaba yibira mwyindi, kuri techere zanibja fugat nahuabi huri nubuzi mabamo.
[20:42] SPEAKER_02: Ukawamu wuzima gichi gari, naba nyachi gari, naba nyye gwanda, ali kum mutke wawe, numu mi bere hoyawe.
[20:48] SPEAKER_02: Uka ru munya merika.
[20:50] SPEAKER_02: Nu gwa wutarajakuchibuga chindeji.
[20:52] SPEAKER_02: Ububuai, imbugahwanan yambaga, zarabunjere chane.
[20:56] SPEAKER_02: Narindi kwa nawangar gijezerivumbuwa, kuvatwa zakuriisi.
[20:59] SPEAKER_02: Ngori hindu nitechere zenimi tkware de yaban ba jeze kuri chimne chakabi, chaba tui si bose.
[21:04] SPEAKER_02: Inbuga kwany nyambaganizo zon ynezashobibu.
[21:07] SPEAKER_02: Kandi zabi kori abanwose, abagabo, abagore, abafitinyakumi nava ftemirong witanu, abachizenaba chenye.
[21:15] SPEAKER_02: Haraba nven shimitwe, dukure shimbuganghora nyambaga, babahu wzimagokure internete, changwa se bokumbugahora nyambaga, bakabuwahu mu wzimahu sanzwe.
[21:23] SPEAKER_02: Ari kujo, nibi wzukugo wzimagokura internete bafti sovanuro.
[21:27] SPEAKER_02: Mbugahora nyambaga, nisi abanbaba mo mu kabandi babamuri sitkwe se dushinze mibi renge.
[21:33] SPEAKER_02: Muhu gwiteimbere, harinjimbi naba ngafu, ba shwakuhanga ychis kwa nubuzimabubi, aban umuri sudan yepu, changwasemurigaza babaemo, kur shukova hanga ychishwa nubuzimavuvi, bamga mwa tajraho barara, mubihugujaba babayemo.
[21:47] SPEAKER_02: Ashuwa kuaba zguchane, no kuharawa na bishweninzara murigaza, akanakolevi kurgovi gameje kubatabara, kande harundi batura nye nauta giribjokurija, ubayhu halfing habangovo murigaza, ali kwongu awe.
[22:00] SPEAKER_02: Mwzimawusansgwe, umgubukwese tuwamu.
[22:02] SPEAKER_02: Mudji uwomurigaza, womwona kumbura nyambaga.
[22:05] SPEAKER_02: Nitwegi se kuru chambere mmate ka jisi, chirwa nwara yitwa internet addiction.
[22:10] SPEAKER_02: Changwa se siber dependance.
[22:13] SPEAKER_02: Ni jiushwara kujira gahinda, ubu ba changasu muhanga yko, iju mazigirunaka utajakuna internet.
[22:19] SPEAKER_02: Mum nya ka chumini tati shize.
[22:21] SPEAKER_02: Umware urubjiru kurgani nibbona hubone, wavuye kuijana kwijana, ujira kumirongkijana.
[22:26] SPEAKER_02: Arabanhubandi chira na kumbu more nya bagabi chalanyye.
[22:30] SPEAKER_02: Igaba nu kanyoku fugana inbona hubone haga tia banhu, rijiringaru kamo wziguje.
[22:34] SPEAKER_02: Mubirewana nu kuba kumuriango.
[22:37] SPEAKER_02: Iyo igipimo chokani nibbona hubone mubanu chigabanute, ituma umware wabanu, boro hi rwanoku ganira nabanwa mezenhaba uyonjiera.
[22:45] SPEAKER_02: Abanuba takas whuwazi gokurema in shutincha, changwa se kwaya ganya lumu bahuye gambere.
[22:50] SPEAKER_02: Nivu mwuna mazinyaki tanu, atagani na nabanu, inbona hubone, ubu shovaziboko kwi sanga mubandi, naba tazi uragabanuka, maze nyumakazi sangi chingorohi, bukugani na nabanu, inbonahuwone, arukuganja, nabatechereza kwa meze chimni.
[23:04] SPEAKER_02: Abuba korana, abobi gany, changwa sawande atechereza, kwa bahuye, gimne munjingo, zubu jimbuganghole nyambaga ziteraban hu kwi kunda, kurushibiri nguomga.
[23:14] SPEAKER_02: Gukuru wa changwa se ku kora kujo uwana nabanhu, umba mezinghawe gusa, bjit kwa, like-minded people.
[23:21] SPEAKER_02: Imbuganhwen yambaga.
[23:23] SPEAKER_02: Zuba se kuryo umunhu, ashaka kuganya nira changwa se gutinda na nabanwa techereza mhawe, changwa seba tanyura nya nawe munyumviri.
[23:29] SPEAKER_02: Mwyandi magambo, izimbuga, zifashaburi muhu kwi sanga, kumvari we urahan huose.
[23:36] SPEAKER_02: Na rindi kora nabuhangad yye zeribho, ngorifa shaban, kubawa marisa hayose, inberi yawa chisibduma bi fatama shusho, ulimogu gucheza, ulimokuridin ba changwase wiga nabari dimba, urimokurija, changwasuri mokuriye wagusa, ngomaza bandi bandbihuunbi triumi, baze kukugira, ibjoma gute cherezaho.
[23:55] SPEAKER_02: Kukugira koba wonyuri mniza, koba wonyibjovin ubi koraneza.
[24:00] SPEAKER_02: Hadinu shira kamera imbere, a karya magasinzira.
[24:04] SPEAKER_02: Awani yunbi triumi bakaza wakamubgira kibjovina bi koraneza wose.
[24:09] SPEAKER_02: Iba bikugie bikonjere rukundo uikundaga.
[24:12] SPEAKER_02: Indinjjingo ifita nyisano nibi nu kuwa inbuga nyambaga, zidushishikariza, kandizika dusunichira, kubanhaabana, changwaseku koranghabana, urugeru.
[24:22] SPEAKER_02: Uin shuti anje, changwa surunganzi wange.
[24:24] SPEAKER_02: Ibin hunibibiri.
[24:26] SPEAKER_02: Niba ugaraga jekwa kunze ibjonaanditse, uguri shhuti anje, ni wutawi kunze, ugurunganzi wange.
[24:32] SPEAKER_02: Indinjinggo igaragazakwa izimbuga zidusunichira kuwa umha bana, changwa se kuwa umhabari moguchina.
[24:38] SPEAKER_02: Ni bi korugan hokubi foto yakunz geneba nubensi, kurugwa instagram, mumuaku mbi na chminu munani, ali foto yiji.
[24:45] SPEAKER_02: Iji jinhuko.
[24:46] SPEAKER_02: Umunu ya foto igi jinhuko, abgiraba angunimuleke duchaga higo, ki foto jakunz geneba nubenchi kwisi.
[24:53] SPEAKER_02: Abanumirion mirongutan ne shatu, ivi mbi mrongineu munani, naba nbana tana tumirongo chena nabari ngwi, wo se, vakanza gana gazakoba kunziyo foto.
[25:02] SPEAKER_02: Uyumunsi kunesta grame, ari umunhui se ijri jachiaga ygo kwisi.
[25:07] SPEAKER_02: Woj record egg.
[25:08] SPEAKER_02: Aba numirion chumi baramukuichira.
[25:11] SPEAKER_02: Mwizi mabu sanzwe, naba nuenji baza kugira kuma fotoyose ukumbangwane nyambaga, baribi foto igi jingwoko, bakabu na nyonziza ku sandi yose, metseva kumba barashaka kwenjara kuireva.
[25:22] SPEAKER_02: Aba nu nabzaba wona.
[25:23] SPEAKER_02: Na buzawa nabensi ba kugiri wingibi, nyamara warenga miyeon ni milongutanu, nibyo bagara gajekuruga nyambaga.
[25:30] SPEAKER_02: Hara mutavu tse uguwa kubi kybjabgenje, abanu barja changwa sebangwa, chiga tuma mwarewa ba nu biahura uza mukombi rungu tatunanime kwijana, icho tyubjabgenje, char gwany wabiku meye.
[25:42] SPEAKER_02: Nyamara harabashaka shat mite chereze, bemeza kwinbuganghore nyambaga, zat mye irijani sharije gwahu mukiahura kwjin bi na bangavu.
[25:50] SPEAKER_02: Ibi womba kwa vi muamvu, leta zihu gwitanu kanye, zatanje guichiha mate yeko, awzaba nabri mun sinya katumi nitana tu gwore sh mbugmore yambaga.
[25:58] SPEAKER_02: Mungakum vi natumi munani, Facebook, yevuze ko ie gushiri saha mwen instagrami.
[26:03] SPEAKER_02: Isaha izaba yubatse kurio umunazajja kore shuruga, mujerunaka, wachirenza, ruga e tergwifung andguenje ku gfunguchira.
[26:11] SPEAKER_02: Ariku munakajenrije, we ubuge, ashaka kru marahu.
[26:15] SPEAKER_02: Iviwa mzewikoze.
[26:16] SPEAKER_02: Nabub gabo, bawe mezjakzi muganghora nyambaga aru mundibu kogu gwiyobjabgenje.
[26:21] SPEAKER_02: Gusani bazaru batsuke, haga miżwe kozi wata, changwa se zigarabazi kure sha, kuwe richino nyo uyumusi, haba hajje kufatku ngamba, zokugawanyya iye abanu bazi marahu.
[26:32] SPEAKER_02: Kwe chibate jere jokuru diru kibumbimakumyy gujehu rawimaka.
[26:36] SPEAKER_02: Yunggufuzi nbugahora nyambaga, ezini mukyu bachira abanu dushaka kubabu.
[26:41] SPEAKER_02: Kwe rakotu dashira kumbugahora nyambaga ivione tsebyose, do shirahi biotkifuza.
[26:46] SPEAKER_02: Avanu twifuza kubabo, nibuwa ba kumbugahora nyambaga.
[26:49] SPEAKER_02: Avanu turibo mubgyukuri, ni woba jenda mumihanda.
[26:53] SPEAKER_02: Gana enhat tol.
[26:54] SPEAKER_02: Numga ni mwigis gimi techireze.
[26:56] SPEAKER_02: Yanititawa yi se the power of now and the new earth.
[27:00] SPEAKER_02: Ubu washab guyu munsi, ni sianone.
[27:03] SPEAKER_02: Avga kukuba twanichi, nu ichari chochose, vitruka kukunan wakuya chira.
[27:08] SPEAKER_02: Kujirangubimba techi nurunaka, nu komugyo utazi, uwa na niwuhangana nuba ware bgawe.
[27:15] SPEAKER_02: Ububa tugari bugose, wutanjira na nuvubare, wukaranjrana nuba vare.
[27:20] SPEAKER_02: Yemezakona chirachane, meliukizimbugaziza, abanu biu wachiraga masura yabu mumitweabu.
[27:27] SPEAKER_02: Kubuzuriwe, ibujani mivere hufite, nibikubuze kwishusha nyam mutkewawe, wam wundi wzimbabgiza, kurutubuguwa mumu yukuri.
[27:35] SPEAKER_02: Enternete, ni mbogazi hurida habanu, ichosa koze, ngufataya masura banhu viri mirag mitweabu, zozi ka shirahanze.
[27:43] SPEAKER_02: Nbuga mwanybaga zaza nybujob giza, bokuduhumanya u kwere kisi a masura tkui jene mumitweachu.
[27:49] SPEAKER_02: Bigumbakwaliomamvu, aho bandikerezo, haba di tenggu what is on your mind.
[27:54] SPEAKER_02: Nijichikuri mumutwe.
[27:55] SPEAKER_02: Hadichiko chitwa tekmark, jikorbu shakasha tikuchru zibjumabjikora nabuhangam gitumanaho.
[28:01] SPEAKER_02: Aba shakasha tibaco, bavukakuni bru munhu utunze telefone, izi jezgoza smartphone.
[28:06] SPEAKER_02: Ayrewa honi wra insuru maganabi nama kunyebi nimne kumuzi.
[28:10] SPEAKER_02: Umunsi uranjiye.
[28:12] SPEAKER_02: Mun shurazaoi maganabi nama kunyebi nyime, wareje kuri telefoni awe.
[28:16] SPEAKER_02: Umunhakakubaza ichubja kungu ye.
[28:18] SPEAKER_02: Bisho kwa taribensi, baba nichwa vugabungutze.
[28:22] SPEAKER_02: Nibjo izimbugazi kora nyimbaga.
[28:24] SPEAKER_02: Ari kokutje ichiguzi.
[28:26] SPEAKER_02: Niba mumyaka, itarenze makumyavili, izimbugazi maze, zara maze kujiringa uka zingana huko zingana.
[28:33] SPEAKER_02: Igyise ku kiza kurichiraho, kizawa hujite, chima zimyyaki shana jikore shimbuga nyambaga.
[28:39] SPEAKER_02: Kutiba kuzima de seba kudu kurichira.
[28:41] SPEAKER_02: Ichiganiro chachu chano netna hatu jisorege.
[28:43] SPEAKER_02: Tobashimyakumu da siba kutkum, nitko ismay mwa nafunzi da bashimi.
[28:56] SPEAKER_01: Waruziko ichiganiro chiara djurguand.

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