# LIU004: From Fast Food to Leading Operations at an ISP

An episode of [Life In Uptime](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1840914445), 13 Nov 2025, 1 h 02 min.

Audio: https://feeds.packetpushers.net/link/24164/17208716/LIU004.mp3

Think you need a degree or a ton of certificates to succeed in tech? Think again. Matthew Oborne joins our hosts Alexis Bertholf and Kevin Nanns to discuss how he went from working fast food to leading operations at an ISP. Your starting point doesn’t define your ceiling; resilience, adaptability, and a willingness to learn... Read more »

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